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dying before the bump limit edition

>FAQ
https://pastebin.com/ccPjaLax
>What to Play
https://pastebin.com/WEZcWKfD
>Individual Game Pastas
https://pastebin.com/fYUBtLkv

>News
A bunch of roguelikes you will never play were updated

Empires of Eradia: The Cataclysm of Chaos Alpha V31H
http://www.mediafire.com/file/679uyuhji0ce1ht/Binary_V31H.zip/file

Road Warrior Release 1 released
https://newmoonday.itch.io/rogue-road-warrior-roguelike

Zorbus Release 11 released
http://www.zorbus.net/

>/rlg/'s shared DCSS online account
User: rlgrobin
Password: ownfault (or "robin" on Xtahua)

Roguelike Servers
http://roguenex.us /(CDDA, Angband, PCB)
http://angband.live/ (Angband and variants, including Frogcomposband)
http://hardfought.org/ (NetHack and variants)

Last thread: >>25265457
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how long does it take to code a cool roguelike from scratch
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>>252827119
5-6 years
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tome
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>>252829547
good roguelike
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Does anybody know the mechanic for failure/success for gain health and gain energy potions in Mage Guild?
Does the success chance change over time, based on sphere collection, level depth, or what? Is it just random? Trying to be efficient with permanence/duplication.
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>>252830283
It's been a long time, but as I recall the more potions you use to raise your health and energy, the lower the chances that future ones will work.
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Alright bros, I am the anon from before. Looked for a python tutorial and I can't even get through step one, which apparently requires me to run an executable that doesn't exist. I'm done with coding forever.
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>>252834084
Never mind, I did it. A bright future awaits me
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>>252834084
gotta learn the basics of python first, lad
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iron imp
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>>252834084
I remember doing this python tutorial many years ago (or at least a previous version of it):
http://inventwithpython.com/invent4thed/
Not about roguelikes though.
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>>252826825
You fucked up the link to the prvious thread
>>252654570

Also could have probably added Sil-Q 1.4.2 and Nethack 3.6.2 to the news.
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>>252840583
I just saw you guys died and made a new thread. My apologies it is not up to your usual standards.
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>>252827119
7 days.
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>>252844002
Factually true
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bampu
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Frozen Depths anon here. I have finally cleared the 34th floor and I'm preparing to face the boss. What do
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It was inevitable.
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>>252848617
Hit him until he dies
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>>252848617
Save the game.
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Which roguelike has the best soundtrack?
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>>252850651
NetHack
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Can anyone link me some good escape music? Because I have to get the fuck out of here as soon as humanly possible
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>>252852956
https://youtu.be/0jgrCKhxE1s
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>>252853069
That totally fits
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>>252852956
Congrats so far anon
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>>252853154
Enjoy bro but don't forget to take your time if shit gets too crazy. It's still a turn-based game anon
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It's over bros. I tried.
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>>252853705
F
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>>252853705
RIP
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SIKE! I WAS ACTUALLY RUNNING FOR A FUCKING ALTAR. I DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH PIETY BUT I MANGED TO REACH IT AT THE LAST TURN, SACRIFICE MY SHIT AND PRAY! THERE IS HOPE!
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>>252853925
Youuuuuu sonofabitch. Are you doing it, anon?
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>>252853925
Oh my
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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f5 f5 f5 f5
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>>252854337
How do you get colder in this game?
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>>252854337
I defeated the boss on D34 instead of D35. Not a big difference. If it wasn't for that, I would have actually died, so that's fine. But the game ain't won yet lads. At least I have a decent strategy now.
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>>252854887
Based. Now rest up and repeat!
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>>252854887
Fug. Will you message him and tell him all about it?
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>>252855230
I will tell him how much of a nigger he is and link him this thread
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>>252854887
Is this the first time someone's ever actually defeated the boss and made it out alive?
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I found the entrance to the minotaur labyrinth in dcss. I don't want to attempt it yet. Will the entrance decay if I leave the level it is on or can I go clear lair or something then come back?
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>>252855393
According to the lore, it is. Some korean dude probably defeated the game without ever taking damage, but let's stay true to the traditional history.
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>>252853336
That from IVAN?
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>>252855708
DCSS
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>>252854887
Congratulations, anon! What was your build and strategy?
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>>252855943
>build
two handed weapon dwarf warrior. I never used throwing weapons because I couldn't be arsed. I figured two handed weapons are better because they deal so much extra damage, whereas the extra armor would let you tank one or two more hits, but this might be wrong. I also made sure I always had enough gold for a resurrection, the first thing I did was sell stuff to get it at the lowest price.

But what really carried me through this game were two abilities: dash and knockback. These two (combined with destroy walls) actually allowed me to escape 300% speed heroes without even having to worry. I was able to get out of a tight corridor packed with powerful enemies, even though I was surrounded, thanks to destroy wall, dash and knockback. They are essential.
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>>252854887
Very nice, are you going to make another pastebin with your strategy?
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>>252856351
The general strategy was
>accurate style for most enemies
>defensive style only in extremely rare situations where it made sense
>fast style when running away (every two seconds)
>brutal style only when enemies were stunned or couldn't act, since it reduces armour by 10
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>>252854843
After defeating the boss, you can pray for cold. The secondary source are spotted seeds, which have a 50% chance of cooling you. I had eight of them, and by the time I reached the altar at 5 HP, I had 0. Potions of frost cool you very slightly but the damage they deal to you makes it not worth it, and I had to learn that the hard way. Frozen pools also cool you, but I didn't have any this game.
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>>252854887
back to the general after a long time, what game is this ?
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>>252860205
Frozen Depths I believe
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>>252860205
Read above: frozen depths. No one was able to both defeat the final boss and escape the dungeon until today.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/roguelikes/comments/bmupzd/i_got_silq_running_on_my_typewriter_the_backwards/
>Yes, I note the unconventional approach to spatial mapping through logarithm-assisted emulation of Intel hardware followed by a percussive transform to get the render step. It's quite intriguing, how you've done it, and I don't believe I would ever have thought of it.
>Merged.
>Anyone up for tackling Mac?

Sil-Q gets typewriter support before Mac support.
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>>252862959
https://github.com/sil-quirk/sil-q/blob/master/src/main-typew.txt
This one is a bit tricky, you have type the output manually. And because of the limited computing power of the Typewriter,
you'll have to do most of the computing on Graph paper with the help of a slide rule.

Algorithm for running Sil-Q on a typewriter:
1. Compile the source into assembly using the makefile for GCU mode sicne that will give you an output that can be typed out on your typewriter.
2. Copy out the relevant diagrams and tables for an x86-64 precessor, you'll need these in your calculations.
3. Take out your slide rule and graph paper
4. Start crunching numbers, this step may take up to several years. Be patient and DON'T PANICK.
5. Type out the resulting output on your typewriter.
6. Mark your desired input in a notebook, then repeat step 4. from where you left off taking into account the input you just wrote down.
7. Type out the resulting output either below your previous output or on top of it using an eraser ribbon or white out.

The game can now be played by repeating steps 6. and 7. , All on your very own typewriter!
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>>252862959
>have to cut down half the amazon rainforest just to play one game of Sil
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>ziggurat
>early panlord level, I'm not really strong enough for these yet
>quaff every pot and spam god abilities
>miraculously survive
>feeling invincible
>looted some armors and rings
>juggle combinations a bit to see which set will offer best protection and resistances
>enter portal
>lair level, easy
>wait why am I getting so much damage
>8 AC
>forgot to put body armor back on
>can't cblink because heavenly storm is active
Splat.
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>you begin slowing down
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I need a name for a character, one that is so good that it will prevent me from dying.
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>>252868564
Fred the Unkillable
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>>252868830
Thanks, but it's too long
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>>252868952
>name length limit
>unicode not supported
Is it not the current year?
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>>252854887
well done, lad
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>>252868564
Kel'Thuzad
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>>252827119
As long as it takes.
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>>252868952
Immortal Bob
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roguelikes, how about 'em, huh?
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>>252874251
I like them because they are fun, strategic and challenging.
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>>252874251
fault
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>>252808439
That gif is great
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>>252874564
Wait so DCSS isn't a roguelike?
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>>252876848
You are correct.
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Trying out this new Ambush ability in Sil-Q and oh boy can you do a lot of damage as a stealth archer.
If you combine it together with Deadly Hail and Rout you can probably chain kills together like crazy.
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>>252878195
Oh my, and I get an artifact helmet.
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>>252878195
Have you seen the new dragon-horn bows
They must do crazy damage with a dedicated archer
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>>252879872
The objects.txt says it has 4d2 damage and weighs 4.5lb.

Lets say you have 3 strength and shoot at an unwary enemy with the deadly hail bonus and get a double crit, that's 14d5 if I'm not mistaken. Maximum 70 damage, pretty good.
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hello do you have pictures of Kai's elona adventures
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>>252880780
search the archives, they're probably there on /jp/
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I'm the only one who feels uneasy and nervous while playing C:DDA? This game give me a strange feeling that something terrible will happen or pop up if I try to explore those weird locations.
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Cooking: the roguelike when?
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>>252883562
You're supposed to feel that way
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>>252885475
I'm looking forward to your cooking roguelike, anon.
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>>252887061
I don't want to make one, though.
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>>252887570
Sounds like an interesting idea, hopefully we can play your cooking roguelike soon.
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>filthy rag deals 20 damage 1.19 blows at level 19

Kill me
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>>252887656
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DCSS isn't fun as a video game experience. It's more fun in a chess way.
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What roguelikes have great core combat mechanics?
Hard mode: no sil
God mode: no doomrl
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>>252893997
elona
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>>252893997
Lufia 2
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Extra life!
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>>252885475
That's Caves of Qud

>>252892024
That makes no sense
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Does CDDA have obesity yet?
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>>252899295
>That makes no sense
Single player video games are typically about enjoying the ride, not the destination. There's nothing to enjoy about DCSS's ride (current DCSS at least), it's a very repetitive and bland ride. The fun in DCSS comes from employing learned tactics to overcome obstacles and win, like chess.
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>>252899574
Sounds like you're looking for a thread long autistic argument.
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>>252899851
fuck
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>>252899574
roguelikes are traditionally not about enjoying the ride, but about getting to the end. they're a type of puzzle where the gameplay is a sort of meta-gameplay that is learning to solve the game and the reward is knowing what happens when you finish the game, and the fulfillment from knowing that you managed to beat the game. this is why there's a relatively greater emphasis on spoilers. that winstreak speedrunning mentality is a modern adaptation.
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Hell yeah, snipin' dragons.
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why aren't you playing roguelikes on a Friday night/Saturday morning, /rlg/?
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>>252900928
>there's a relatively greater emphasis on spoilers
Explain the popularity of Nethack.
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>>252904635
i'm not sure what there is to explain. it's just a very old and very hard game and not many people play it anymore. i really like nethack, it's my favorite roguelike.
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MOTHERFUCKING SHIT NIGGERING PUSSY FARTS

Of COURSE a water elemental has a two-tile frost aura, of course. Because the living water only has a one-tile aura, I should have expected that the big one has a two-tile aura, because that's the only way I could have expected that I'd be taking damage at a distance, because it's not like you can actually SEE the fucking aura!

Fuck Rogue's Tale. Why is it so infuriating? Why is it so goddamn addictive? I'm like a battered wife at this point. I know the next death is just going to be more bullshit that I had no fucking way of predicting, but I'm going to do it anyway, because I'll be damned if I let this fucking game beat me.
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>>252905318
Learn English.
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>>252905559
this is shilling and must be deleted
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>>252904303
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>>252905678
show me my mistake
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>>252904635
>nethack

funny you should mention that particular roguelike,I just wish there was a way to change the player's character sprite like in certain versions of DCSS
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>>252905810
You type like a 5 year old and failed to understand the context of the post you was replying to.
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>>252905913
this doesn't count as showing
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FUCKING inventory management. I need to drop this 0 charge wand, but I KNOW as soon as I do it, I guarantee that the next floor will have a recharge wand on it.
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>>252906002
Learn reading comprehension
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>>252905726
Eat my filthy, slimy asscrack you fucking Jew.
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>>252905913
also >was
lol
not a good time to be doing this

>>252906070
show me my mistake
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>>252905913
Stop trying to bait replies.
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>>252900928
>the reward is knowing what happens when you finish the game
Yeah I'm sure the usual brief win message is what gets people out of bed in the morning
>greater emphasis on spoilers
haha no
>mentioning winstreak speedrunning for no reason

There are better ways to bump the thread you know?
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I pressed 'o left' instead of 'u o left' and now I'm dead.
Roguelikes.
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>>252907808
SAY IT WITH ME NOW:
F
A
U
L
T
!
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>>252899574
Counterpoint: I enjoy grinding.
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What the fuck happened to the hunger system in DDA? You can eat a ton of food and 5 minutes later you're hungry again. What fat ass programmed that shit in?
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>>252910028
Kevin "Mcdonaldforbreakfast" Tyler
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>>252905913
Learn English.
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>>252910148
god damn how do I even fix this autism
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>>252910705
>checks for hunger every 10 mins and then sets it to static values based on how much food there is still on your stomach instead of just making eating give you calories and those calories slowly get used up
god that is some spaghetti.
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>>252910028
I haven't actually played with the new hunger system, but from what I gathered by description, it's now impossible to see your actual nutrition level.
Instead, you see how full your stomach feels.
So you can eat some calorie-dense food and you'll satisfy your actual nutritional need, but your stomach will still be empty so you'll see Hungry indicator.
Or you can eat tons of empty filling which will just stuff your stomach without actually providing nutrition, so you'll be still starving but your hunger indicator would be showing that you are Full.

It's also written by a guy who doesn't check that his code actually works.
For example, his initial version which he claimed was "ready for merge testing" had a sign for beverage quench removal inverted so drinking liquids made you more parched.
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>>252910705
>if five_mins > 0
>not if five_mins
dabbing on those spaghetticucks
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>>252910028
The food digestion system is currently being reworked to allow for obesity and so on. There are however no consequences for being fat yet.
You don't need to eat food just because you are hungry.
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>>252911539
So how do I keep track of how much food I do need?
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Where do all those artefact tridents come from?
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>>252911614
That is a fucking godly trident. Anyways, a bunch of merfolk lords probably had some duels down there and got picked off by something hungry after wearing each other down.
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>>252911843
>godly
>-4 str
oh no no no
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>>252911590
Eat when you are "famished" or worse.
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>>252911976
+11 elec with two good resists (albeit one is useless as a General Tso worshiper) is really, really nice. That strength modifier doesn't mean shit unless you're a hybrid.
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>>252910028
> Currently, your survivor needs about 2500 kcals every day.
> Hunger is different from your physical caloric needs, and is instead based on the volume of food in your stomach - and the time since you last ate
> If you are hungry, but don’t really need to eat - your hunger display will show hungry
> If you are hungry, but need to eat - your hunger display will show very hungry
> If you are hungry, and have a kcal deficit - your hunger display will show famished, and with a severe deficit starving
> Your kcal count is internally measured out of 77000 kcals, and you can see how much in deficit/surplus you are by turning on debug mode.
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what happens if I drink it bros
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>>252912170
BRO IT'S ESTROGEN DON'T
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>>252912054
>>252912149
So what's the point of having "hungry" displayed?
Just to completely mislead players?
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>>252912458
unironically immersion as a given reason.
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>>252912540
Eating half a moose and being a hungry again after ten minutes is really immersive.
I can really feel like I'm Kevin.
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>>252911976
Is strength actually good? Last time I checked I was advised to invest into dexterity instead (Or Intelligence for casters)
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>>252912458
Well, I dunno. I'm guessing it's just supposed to be realistic.
Also, as far as I understand, it takes time for your body to actually absorb the calories of the food you're eating, which might mean that it's better to eat before you actually run into a calorie deficit. (At least once they actually programmed consequences for calorie deficit.) It will probably eventually become a balancing act between eating too soon and getting fat or eating too late and having your body digest itself.

>>252910148
>>252912639
The system rework has nothing to do with Kevin. It's by some guy called KorGgenT.
https://discourse.cataclysmdda.org/t/getting-very-hungery-with-over-60-000-calories/19704
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>>252912641
Somewhere along the way they changed how stats work and made dexterity useless.
Basically strenghtening reduces armor penalty and increases weapon damage with all weapons.
Back then Dex would also increase weapon damage when using small weapons
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>>252912827
There's nothing realistic about this.
You're not living the live of a programmer who sits on their ass all day, it's the zombie apocalypse.
Obesity is the least of your problems.

Kevin merged this crap into the main branch even though it's retarded and buggy as shit, he's definitely responsible.
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>tfw you enter a 40% black floor
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>>252913018
If it's buggy as shit then post bug reports instead of complaining about le kevin.
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>>252913236
I rather revert to a commit before this crap was introduced.
A bug report saying "this is fucking retarded" won't get very far.
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>>252913357
>A bug report saying "this is fucking retarded" won't get very far.
Yes, that is the point.
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>>252913706
I could write a whole well-reasoned essay of why it's bad but you fucking know it's a wasted effort.
Have you ever seen Kevin REMOVE a new overly complicated and pointless broken feature?
How long was ranged combat broken again for an "overhaul" that still offers little benefit?
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caves of CRUD
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Nice game
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>>252914352
Shoot, wait, other action.
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>>252913201
Game?
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>>252915612
Frozen depths
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I don't mind the gender stuff. But can't the devs see other people don't care?
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>>252916301
Can't you see that other people care?
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>>252916301
Mmm, the delicious taste of slacktivism.
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>>252916513
Oh fuck yes. They care so much if you give an inch of disagreement they'll say your brain is fucked up.
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>>252916739
Oh. For some reason I read that twitter post at first as being anti-genderstuff. I'm tired.
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>>252912641
Dex is hardcapped for dodging and other actions and stuff to like 28 or 38 or so? Str scales much better on otabs
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>>252826825
Newfag here. Are there any roguelikes for Linux (laptop)? Is it possible to make roguelikes on Linux?
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>>252920447
Most roguelikes are on Linux
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>>252921002
Good to know, thanks.
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>the game spawns a 300% speed upgraded enemy that instantly chugs all the piety I gathered in the past 15 floors
fault
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>>252920447
Yes, check your repo. So far I've seen angband, nethack, powder, dcss and tome. You can also use wine to run win rls like elona with little to no issues (mostly midi problem, just install timidity and switch in-game music to MCI). No luck for caves of kek though
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>>252916301
Am I missing something to the drama here? The tweet you posted is clearly responding to other people who DO care. Unless he's just mistaken and there's nobody complaining about non-binary genders? But that seems super unlikely, there are people who are so incapable of separating them self from their political circlejerk outrage culture that they'll complain about anything that seems slightly "sjw" regardless of context. Unless I'm misunderstanding something it seems hard to believe that "people don't care"
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>>252916301
Is that guy holding two pieces of shit in his pic
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>>252926612
lol, the irony of exonerating sjws whilst accusing a "political circlejerk outrage culture"
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Not used to playing non Formicids anymore. Game was kind enough to remind me how though!
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>>252927296
>*Rage
Fault incoming
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>>252885475
I want tinfoilhatrl. You go to a secret base in antarctica, fight jews, reptilians, pleiadians, freemadons, iluminatti, and win by proving the world is flat. You also use mkultra psychic powers to help your journey
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>>252928079
i'm careful enough for now, i learned to be maining Formicid. not having teleport/blink/haste will really change your strategys
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>>252904560
I’m playing dwarf fortress :P
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>>252904560
coding and playing Dominions
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Are there any races with inherent clarity?
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>>252931853
no, that would be racist
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>>252931894
l-lol??
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TGGW is pretty fun
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brogue more like BRUHgue amirite
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You guys think I should do holy wrath onto this eveningstar? Distortion is stupid and getting annoying
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>the game spawns a 300% speed enemy right next to you that takes away half your hp with each hit
To be fair, I did do a thing that has a chance of spawning a random monster. Fault.
Frozen depths is bullshit guys. That winning run was beginner's luck, this game is a fucking torture
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>>252936427
Yes lol, youre worshipping tso
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>>252936427
>Not secure
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>>252937043
omg
quick
how do i change my IP
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>>252937043
ъeъ
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>>252936883
was thinnking of maybe saving it for this broadaxe too since its already +5 and i already did axes to mindelay
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>>252937891
Oh, then get an exec axe or broad axe + shield, i suppose if youre a bit scared
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>>252937985
not sure if i want to run exe axe, so used to having 2h+ shield. broad axe should be good enough right
i have literally every option right now, and two eveningstars, one i rebranded to freeze at +5
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Maxwell's Coffin on DDFi, y/n?
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>>252936669
Duh, the fucking game is a nightmare. I usually make it to the 3rd boss with a LOT of consumable burn but sometimes the game just shits on you and makes every wand a Nightmare one that'll summon a Fierce/Superior something to shit on you
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>>252938748
Yeah, broad axe is just fine

>>252938758
Is that the platearmor or head cage?
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>>252939027
Armor. I also found Frostbite on L:6. Can I please be allowed to tab now PLEASE
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>>252938748
What gameame?
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so far so good i'd say
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ketziah/Ketziah.txt
hopefully i can find some decent boots gloves or a shield sometime
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>this item
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Seething Chaos
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Glowing Shitshifter
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>>252945705
grazing doesn't sound very hedonic
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At what distance can fungal spores infect you?
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>>252949249
Yes
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>>252949249
A bit too late to be asking that
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>>252949249
Just wear a filter mask, famalady.
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>>252949249
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>>252949623
I'm like 80 spaces away
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>>252949207
Grazing can be slang for just eating slowly and constantly throughout the day. Like "I didnt have lunch or dinner today, I have just been grazing since I woke up from my nap.". Seems pretty hedonic to me.
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>giant 8x8 room walled off with 3 rows of doors and then 4 giant runed doors on depths:4
Hurmmmm
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>>252955835
You don't have the nerve.
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>>252956009
I mean how bad could it be? A. Liches, gold dragons and juggernauts? Oooooh so scary
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>>252956171
inb4
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>>252925084
Thanks again, another anon.
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>>252956171
I really wish Zot traps could give -Tele as a temp mutation, as the perfect "fuck you" for late game play.
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How are you supposed to keep pets alive in Brogue? It feels like as soon as any caustic gas or fire appears my pets are doomed because of how retarded their ai is
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what are your favourite roguelikes to play casters in?
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>>252963002
I'm not a brainlet, so none
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Would you rather learn to play a couple of coffee break roguelikes, or focus entirely on a beefy roguelike like Nethack?
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>>252927296
>using anything with rage
>current year
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>>252966281
It carried me to elf:2 hall of blades where I got a distortion one. It's all about positioning and threat management
Being cross trained in axes to almost mace mindelay also helped forsurethough
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>>252963002
Angband makes a fun caster. Nethack too, nethack spells are so op it makes it pretty fun at least before you get the amulet and energy costs go up a lot.
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>>252827119
A game that's actually "like Rogue" takes a few days to create.
A game like DCSS with lots of content/options, both a terminal and graphical mode and neat stuff like search features, maps and dungeon management is another thing. I suspect balancing a game of that scale is an evergoing work too.
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>fell down a shaft into the boss floor with 50 hp

cool
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>>252968204
Just like in the movies. Now is your time to shine.
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>>252966084
A couple of coffee break RLs, so I can actually learn from my mistakes instead of having to check spoilers for everything in case it ruins my hours long run
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fug :DDD
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>>252966084
Gun to my head, probably the coffee break ones, but ONLY if they truly can be learned and beaten within a day or two of starting if you're non-terrible. Otherwise, I'll choose a beefy RL, but only if it's not as spoiler-laden as Nethack -- something like Angband with monster spoilers activated is perfectly beefy.
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I'm on DL25 bros, will probably defeat the fourth boss with ease. But I'm gonna be busy all week so I'll see you. I know you all come to this general just to see my posts so I'll be there
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>>252975582
gl Tod
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>>252963002
Larn
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>>252976278
Isn't every character in larn a caster? Or maybe its more like no character in larn is a caster...
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>>252968204
it's the only way to play
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hm
wish i tried nets like 3 or 5 years ago
didn't realize he was only "large" size
fuckin 'a
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>>252980779
I'm playing my first fofi (of zin, should I go TSO?) , any tips on how to skill? Do you really do the whole dig a murder hole deal?
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>>252980779
You killed her?
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>>252984762
really you only need one up (left or right) and one down (same) in some spots. usually i dont even bother
the real thing to learn is engaging knowing you cant tele
and yes i suggest TSO because cleansing flame at 20+invo destroys entire game
>>252985432
yea, lig'd and cleansing flame spam murdered everything

side onte
holy fuck i hope zin can purify me with only 7 mut pots
mnoleg and slime did me super dirty this game
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White women fuck dogs.
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OI13QHT2Y4GNP`
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playing gargoyle should be considered cheating
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holy shit i havent seen dispersal traps as a non formicid yet
tomb is nasty as FUCK now
i dont even know WHAT'S going on
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>>252984762
also shafting in hell is nice, bring mapping scrolls though. and abuse the 2h+shield ability. its literally the only reason to play them
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>>252984762
Not the guy you're replying to, but yes, 100% until you're untouchable (which isn't hard on a FoFi).

Remember: digging as a Formicid is essentially free, and you should dig even if you're in danger as long as your back is to a wall -- you literally have no other escape options (besides shafting). Murder holes don't need to be complicated: just make sure only one monster can possibly be seen.

V:5 should be shafted into -- you'll hopefully land away from the center, which is massively dangerous with -Tele and no haste.

With my FoFi, I leveled shields knowing that every major break point was at a 1/5 of the skill required for a given shield type (so, for the regular shield, every 1.8 skill levels, since Fo penalty is eliminated at 9 skill). I always recommend maces and flails since mindelay is easily achieved, they're common, Formicids don't have great physical apts, and both the best 2H option (great mace) and best speed option (demon whip) are solid.

Otherwise, it's the same skilling as other otab types: get some Armour and Dodging, maybe some Invo and Evo as needed, maybe other ranged options, and do the whole "offense -> other options/defense -> defense/other options -> rinse and repeat" thing.

I highly recommend skilling Shields a bit earlier than other defense options, tho, as it will help lower your attack speed and give a big boost to your defense, all while not costing too much XP due to Formicids' good shield aptitude. Shield+weapon is usually a good starting skill choice, IMO.
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Majin-Bo is a female now? what the fuck?
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i really dont like the way tomb totally manhandles you now holy shit
just going to go for the 14
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once again i skipped tomb but sometime ill get back around to it
ive only gotten it 3 times ever
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>>252986990
Yeah, welcome to die.

>>252987642
I think it's been that way for a bit.
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>>252987642
Sexist sjw feminist bigots are slowly corrupting everything they can get their filthy clutches on.
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>>252987642
>not wanting to give you life essence to a sexy demon
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>>252991786
It's insane isn't it? They say oh it's not a big deal and then proceed to flip shit over genders and then get their way; then someone will ask hey what's the deal with all the focus on gender now and you'll be called out for misogyny and trans hate when in reality some of us just wonder why. Fucking pricks. Even roguelikes aren't safe anymore. Fucking something awful faggots. FUCK.
Just make everything female at least then it will stay constant. Or would they then shoehorn in some fucked backstory "this elite ventured into the dungeon to seek the orb to make a gender transition" etc etc
Sickening
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>>252992726
I can't discern the reason for your anger through the sheer amount of dandruff you just snowed onto my screen.
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>>252993250
It's pretty clear he is annoyed by the leftist sexist crusading and their anti male agenda.
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>>252993250
Damn. You didn't spilll your MTN dew did you Cherry Lucia Rainbowdiamond? Hopefully it didn't get in your gaping gash. Don't forget to dilate
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Good night, /rlg/
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General advice for a TrMo^Qazlal?
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>>252992726
It's open source just fork your own little incel nazi branch or whatever
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>>252994179
Dunno
Play standard but be prepared late game for absolutely entire floors bumrushi g you
Pray for early gold dragon armour? You're UC RIGHT? Get a shield in orc or earlier
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>>252995139
ofc

shield doesn't like take away any UC attacks right? once you've got enough skill to take away penalty?
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>>252994278
or you can fork your own progressive paradise build instead of demanding the core game be changed for your garbage
but no
the idea behind the post youre responding to is lost on you isnt it
youre totally fucked
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>>252996213
Have sex.
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>>252996316
Stop changing sexes
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>knife spear breaks after killing one (1) zombie
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This argument reminds me of the time they changed "
_Sorry, you're not good enough to have a special ability." for something less "offensive" and the commit only lasted like 4 days
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>>252997132
working as intended
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>>252997132
Craft wooden spear / forked spear instead.
Knife spear is a meme weapon now.
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>>252997770
>things that never happened
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>walk around to avoid a five headed hydra
>run into a six headed one immediately
Hurm. Got a few charges of disintegrate. Maybe I'll just hit lair instead.
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>>253000454
>Gozag troll
madman
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>>253000689
well at least whenever i need food i can buy a mechant...to buy food from...
FUCK
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Why is no one playing doomrl? Its basically like dcss but with actually interesting and satisfying combat, truly varied weapons, classes and builds, and no bloat at all.
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wait dragons wont drop scales as gozag will they
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>>253001735
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>>252997132
Try to attach knife to a wooden stick with some fucking twine or ducktape (lol) and then repeatedly smack at something with enough force to kill, even dirt in your backyard will do if you dont have anything better, report back with how many seconds it will last for.
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>>253001795
those MOTHERFUCKERS
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>>253001735
>play Gozag
>lack an endgame weapon
>I'll just visit the hall of blades in E:2
>exec axe of flaming, just what I need
>let me just kill it so it drops the weapon as a corpse
>fuck
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>>253002089
Summon some shops, goy.
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well at least gozag shops are weighted to sell things you can actually use right?? lol
i know i'll get my GDA by vaults 2 just watch bitches
but yea Tr^gozag is kinda hectic
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>>253000454
>>253002225
Don't you run out of food?
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>>253003295
not really, been sitting at 8-15 rations since I went gozag, and can always buy food stores. i think i get 350~ turns per. i for sure didn't consider the dragon armor situation though. we'll see how orc goes
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Is nuzlocking a roguelike
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Is cogmind party-approved?
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>>253004728
Nope. Not a roguelike
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>>253004728
Not a rl, also a shit game.
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>>253005968
>also a shit game
Why so?
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>>253000454
Just find a mace, ruks or a scimitar/axe with flame on it and kill the hydras, piece of cake
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you know, it's a lot funnier an hour later
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>>253004728
It would be, if it wouldn't cost money.
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>>253006373
Is that the fucking Amulet of the Four Winds? Why were you not wearing that?
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>>253006731
I was rollin' in it, anon
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>>253007313
Now that's a FAULT.
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>>253006373
>>253007669
They should just make it so every race spawns with gourmand mutation already.
It provides no status bonuses and arguarbly doesn't help non-trolls, felids and kobolds at all, but it makes the game so much more convenient I always feel bad removing it for a better amulet
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DCSS noob here, is there any point in wearing 2 rings of positive energy?
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>>253008412
When fighting people with spells that are of 'darker' side, something like undead stuff or skeletons that can drain you or hit you with dark spells, since each ring gives one pip of rN and it helps a lot later on, especially against drain
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>>253008412
two rings give stacking benefits, but you're almost always going to be better off diversifying your resistances or even just wearing like a +2 stat ring since so few attacks inflict the type of damage rings of positive energy defend against
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>>253008052
They should just make it so every race spawns with the orb of zot already, that way you'll be able to win for once
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Does the orb still appear in inventory, or is it some hidden thing now?
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>>253009219
It appears on the rune display.
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>>253008879
What the fuck are you on about, this game is easy as fuck
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>>253009321
>can't throw the orb in lava
>can't fall in lava
man
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>>253009607
They removed it because it was too OP/Fun, like giving the pandemonium pizza to cerebrov
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>>253006269
Answer me.
Or is this just another hating-games-you-haven't-played thing?
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>>253009581
>recommended combos
you probably looked at the wiki more than 50 times too
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>>253009736
t. winlet
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dcssg containment thread when?
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>>253009921
that thread would have more posts than /rlg/
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>>253009813
I have won at least 40 times in the past 10 years offline
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>>253010284
>4 wins per year
>average 0.01% winrate
oh no no no no
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>>253010437
it's probably something like 3000-4000 games total, so like a solid ~1% winrate
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>>253010643
actually probably raise that count to maybe like 6000 and lower the winrate in turn

anyway it's not about winning you guys, it's about having fun losing
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>>253010994
No, it's pretty much about winning.
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Elbereth
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Nethack is a shit game objectively
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>>253013547
True. No one here plays nethack
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>>253013929
I play Nethack!
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>>253015495
You are not a person
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>>253015876
Thats kind of rude. However in the interest of friendship and community building I will offer you a peace offering in the form of an old vintage review of Skyfox, a true classic. Disregard the other game on there, its one of those dusty old games that nobody has even thought of for twenty years. Really gotta get around to cropping it out sometime...
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>>253016412
I never knew Nethack's tiles came from Rogue. It feels a bit odd seeing something so familiar in something so old.

>Needing to explain what hit points were and how they work.
Gaming was truly a wild frontier back then.
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>>253017074
I wonder if it really is the tiles from nethack. It would seem kind of odd to see
proprietary graphics ripped off in a game like hack/nethack. But it does look pretty similar I have to say. Perhaps after epyx went out pf buisiness they relinquished the rights to it or something. Maybe I'll try to download and emulate the Atari st version of rogue if possible and test it out for myself.
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>>253008532
>>253008849
Thanks
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>>253009664
What was pandemonium Pizza??
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>>253020485
>he doesn't know you used to be able to feed cerebrov the pizza to gain him as a perma ally
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>>253010994
At least you're not this guy >>253000454
He is the embodiment of bad
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What does /rlg/ think of adom?
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>>253023294
not a roguelike
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>it's an "every fucking orc in the mines has a god damn crossbow" episode
god i hate this layout
fucking aggravating as hell
the worst was the warlord
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>>253027071
>he doesnt make a kill hole
Ok r..
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heard you faggots talking shit
*teleports behind you
*casts finger of death
heh, nothin personnel
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>>253023294
Elona 0.3, everybody hates Biskup because of source code related shit.
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>>253023294
A good compromise between nethack shenanigans and playability.
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>wow, that was a pretty close fight. Good thing I managed to get out ali-
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I decided that hmm today I will get into angband/variants but one glass at frogcomposband has intimidated the fuck out of me with the options. Is it actually super complex playing the bands or is it just the overwhelming options?
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>>253029278
Roguelikes are for brainlets, so I guess it's not that complex
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>>253029278
Angband gameplay tends to be pretty simple. Keep some escape items around, wear a resistance to every element and condition you're likely to run into, and keep enough your HP high enough to not get oneshotted. FCPB's complexity comes from its ridiculous variety of races and classes.
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>>253029278
*bands aren't that complex, it's just that they're long games and later in the game you're always in danger of getting absolutely destroyed if you don't have the correct resistances(and even if you have them)
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>try *band stuff for first time
>playing monster because im not a pussy
>scroll of monster confusion confuses me

nice
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>>253030728
did you even attempt to read anything about the game? Or playing blind? Don't play these games blind unless you don't mind wasting alot of time
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Kill white males.
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I cleared mage guild with a Cosmic/Dark character specializing in staff bolts. Drain is the only dark spell I wanted, but it's insanely good. It costs 1 MP, it's overall the best healing spell in the game, and it can carry you through the first few floors on its own. Time stop is ridiculously good once you have enough MP to abuse it, but it didn't work on Mhiu and probably won't work on any of the final bosses. Mhiu seems like she's the worst of the final bosses since she's fast, invisible, and has an instant death attack.
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>>253031740
how do I know if they’re white? or even male? they all just look like letters on a screen
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>get statue form
>receive 15 runes for free
ah yes, big brain caster gameplay
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>>252856614
holy based
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>>253031802
what is this white game
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Alright, I got him but the situation is looking pretty dire. I only have one prayer. What is the theme song for this escape bros
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>>253036653
EMIYA 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvdvFejreQ8
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>>253036653
>**LOW HP!**
>A primitive rage burns inside you
>You hit Uuramesiel.
>You kill Uramesiel!
Kino
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>>253036924
>tfw no Fate roguelike
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God has abandoned me. I only have 4 spotted seeds. Place your bets
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>>253038568
Fuck it, I bet 50 bucks on you making it.
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alright, no fucking way I'm making it at this rate. There is a frozen pool on the other side of this floor but I don't know if it's actually gonna help. If it puts me in a cold state, I might make it. Otherwise, I'm doomed.
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>>253038879
Can you just unequip everything and run naked to cool off or something?
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>>253038982
I'm already naked. I'm already fucking running. There is no source of cold, I must get out of the dungeon to save myself
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The pool helped. I must see seven more floors before I can get out of here.
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>>253039359
You can do it anon! Don't rush and plan carefully your steps!
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>>253039359
Do you have any hp potions or something like that?
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>>253039478
I don't. But the sage did! It's over, I'm standing in front of the exit now!
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Guess we can throw this game into the shitter now
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>>253039771
Great job, anon.
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>>253039771
>tfw nobody bet against me
>tfw I won't get any money
Damn.
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>>253039771
Nice. Gj anon! Write a guide for the pastebin, please?
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>>253039771
Thoughts on the game? Is it actually good? Or were you just playing so you can be the first to complete it?
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>>253039771
Well done.
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>>253040185
>is it actually good
Well, I loved it, but I don't know if it's the knowledge that I was the first to beat it that made me carry on. It's a game that always keeps you busy, even though it's relatively short. Though I have to say, you can't win every run. Sometimes the game just doesn't give you the resources to do so. But then again, you can't win every Nethack run, can you? I defeated it in less than twenty tries, so it can't be that unfair.

Another reason to keep playing: I only won as a dwarf warrior, probably the strongest combination! You can still try to play an elf archer and see what happens.
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>>253035563
The game is Mage Guild but that's a dump file, not a screenshot from the game itself.

Its site isn't up anymore, but it's available in this archive.org page:
https://ia800401.us.archive.org/zipview.php?zip=/34/items/ArchiveRL.7z/ArchiveRL%20v1.0.zip

The file is
ArchiveRL v1.0/Beta_Stable/MageGuild (v2.0.3)[stable].7z
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Do dcss is bringing back darts.
Lame. Hopefully one day we can return to throwing actual weapons again. Nothing like having an orc warlord chuck a +5 elec battle axe
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>>253040703
>But then again, you can't win every Nethack run, can you?
No, but you can come awfully close.
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>>253039771
I was reading the guys site a while ago and on his last update he was predicting that a good player could win pretty consistently. I thought that was a bit ridiculous but holy shit didn't think somebody would get a full on win the next day!
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errr
how bad is gozag wrath? this no corpse shit is getting brutal
http://crawl.akrasiac.org/rawdata/Ketziah/Ketziah.txt
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have any roguelikes had items in containers and containers in containers along with player inventory yet?
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>>253039771
based deepfrozenanon did it
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>>253046467
nethack?
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>>253046378
Isn't gozag one of the few with basically no wrath?
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>>253046906
>nethack
guess i should qualify my question with realistic containers with mass limitations
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>>253046906
Yeah, you can do it in nethack. I think it even has some good use too, you can put a bag of holding inside a oilskin sack to protect your items from water damage. You can even with great difficulty put a bag of holding inside a bag of holding which will doubly reduce the weight of whatever you are carrying.
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>>253047048
seems like its only 1/3rd fail pots and enemies sometimes gain might/haste/berserk for 2XL
thinking of switching to Usk or Mak
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>>253045879
>last update four years ago
What a fucking shame. At least, if he reads my message, he'll see that someone still cares. I'd donate him some money but I don't even have a job
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>>253047758
I wonder if nobody has every truly beaten the game until you did. As far as I can tell with google searches it seems like you are actually the first. Its a shame though, since it does seem to be pretty well known in roguelike circles.
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>>253049504
Like 6 months ago (or maybe a year, time flies so fast here) some anon here played intensively for like 2 weeks, and iirc the best he did was reaching the deepest floor but dying on the way up, when the "cold" theme is reversed?

I think he also mentionned mailing the dev then and the dev saying he himself never beat the game.
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>>253050056
damn
sound slike a game i should try
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>>253050056
Oh shit, thats a real shame. I guess people just really fell for the meme that the game was unbeatable. Or maybe you were just the first one to discover what skills are needed to beat the game.
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>>253050056
>I am actually a fucking god of the roguelike world
Jokes aside, I was reading the guy's website and he says something like "soon someone other than me will beat the game". That should mean the dev has actually beaten the game. Do you have a link to that thread?
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>>253050708
I guess the wording is ambiguous
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>>253051079
Doesn't seem ambiguous at all. It's very unamibigously saying that he's beaten the game.
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Anyone done the Bey Lah quest in CoQ? I'm stuck at trying to find evidence. What forms can evidence take? I think I talked to everyone in town and surrounding it, checked the floor etc. but it seems I'm still lacking some
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>>253051220
Oh yeah, reading it again you're right. Now I feel less legendary
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>>253051079
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>>253051220
He could be implying that he thinks he will be beating the game soon, but that he hasn't yet done so.
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>>253039771
Congrats!
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>>253054107
Hey, free xp
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>>253056331
Can someone explain that webm
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>>253056331
Wait what

What happened?
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If I had to guess judging by the visible messages, he managed to somehow tear off a part of his tank by colliding with the scooter.
According to the relatively recent (about half a year ago) vehicle-related change, torn off parts can become separate vehicles instead of collapsing into a pile of loot as before.
These vehicle parts were placed after his tank in the movement queue. As such, when his tank tried to move next turn, it crashed into a separated part which didn't got it's turn to move away yet.
That crash resulted in tearing another part of his tank off, which then caused yet another crash, and so on and on, as his tank instantly collapsed on itself.
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>>253057781
nice game
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>>253056720
>>253056652
watch his speed at top right corner, :18 to :21 sec
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>>253051714
I think you're a true hero, anon.
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>>253056331
whacky shenanigans
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>>253056652
Looks like he was driving something and crashed and died.
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>>253050708
My memory is foggy. Look up the archive I guess, but who cares anyway.

>>253050252
Im not the guy who beat it today (>>253047758), but I do know he's not the first one to at least reach the bottom.
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Why would anyone play CDDA
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>>253059481
No, 96 is not vehicle mph, it's his character's movement speed.
He got thrown out of the tank (or rather the tank stopped existing around him), so the UI switched from vehicle control to the regular one.
Vehicle speed was not really that much, 48 mph.
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>>253059828
Yeah, there is a pastebin on the OP with the guide that that guy probably wrote, and that's where I found out about the game
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>>253059927
Ignorance, naivete, Stockholm syndrome
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shafts ruin the game
>shafts ruin the game
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>shafts ruin the game
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I've been playing ToME, but I'm in the dark eith some information that apparently I can't retrieve from the wiki.

What's this "healing mod"?
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>>253061649
Cool just died in L:6 because I had no magic mapping and kept tele'ing into packs of monsters

Honestly I can't express the rage I feel when I die to a shaft it's just a random punishment for no fucking reason at all, there's no counterplay besides wasting resources, it's completely random, there's truly no fucking reason for them to be in the game.
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>>253062072
>there's no counterplay besides wasting resources
I, too, immensely hate spending consumables. If the situation calls for quaffing a potion or reading a scroll, the situation is unfair.
What if I need to read tele 27 times during the orb run but I only have 26 scrolls because I used one in lair?
Might as well just suicide and start anew if you had to spend something.
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>>253062604
lol
>>253062072
shaft happens bruh
just reroll
i just lost a troll in V:5
guess what
rerolled, +4slay ring on turn 8
just keep playing maybe the game aint meant for you
how many total games have you got
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>>253062072
Nice fault, retard! Next time play more optimally so you have more resources to save yourself.
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>>253062072
>there's no counterplay besides wasting resources
On a serious note, play some sprints to learn how to use consumables, evocables and god abilities.
In a regular game you are fighting popcorn most of the time, so it's easy to fall into routine and forget about your options when they are needed.
Sprints, meanwhile, constantly force you to fight enemies which are too powerful for your character, so you need to consider your available resources and find a way to win. You'll be surprised how much a right pot or zap at a right time can affect your performance. And if you fail, you've only lost a few minutes of your time, so you can immediately try again with a different approach.
Granted, sprints are pretty unfair and poorly balanced, but they are a good help in learning the game.
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>>253062072
lol at all those butthurt replies
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Why are you not this fast at Crawl?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Tr3E0hGPA
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>>253062072
Im 97.2% certain you had a way out of the situation you were in
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>>253062072
Should have trained traps & doors
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>>253065247
>not sub 10 mins
lol
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>>253061664
Healing mod increases the amount that you receive when you heal. In this case, it increases all healing by 10%
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https://harmonist.tuxfamily.org/play/index.html

A stealth game it seems
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What to splat next?
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>>252963002
Tome has a very neat gameplay for casters, especially for a non-mana users.
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CONGRATS TO THE FROZEN DEPTHS ANON! It's so nice to see a legendary ascend in here. Won't lie that I'm jealous, I usually died inbetween the 3rd and the 4th boss so to see someone ascend so quickly after saying they'll try it is both disheartening and encouraging. Are you gonna push for the true ending or cut loose?
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>>253072716
He's already reached won the game. See >>253039771
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>>253073480
OH SHIT NEVERMIND IM A FUCKING RETARD WOW HOLY FUCK THAT"S AMAZING
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>>253073626
what was your strat anon? I'm the guy that beat the game
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>>253073864
I was the one who warned you about speedy shitters. Anyway, I generally ran a dwarf warrior for a while but it felt really difficult, especially around boss 3 (doesn't help I'm extremely inconsistent with my resource use). Moved onto a human ranger and generally kited with throws into melee shredding, but the final boss always proved too much and between stages 4 and 5 the resource burn would prove too much. Doesn't help that sometimes i'd get shit like no sage until floor 20. LEGITIMATELY HAPPY THOUGH GOOD FUCKING JOB!

I feel someone needs to put this ascend into the next OP
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>>253075256
You found boss 3 difficult? Now that's weird. As a melee character I just lured him into a spot where he could only hit me from point blank and, in my winning round, he only took away a resurrection from me
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>>253075456
I'm a very bad player and I have very little patience, plus I found his repeated jumping around very annoying and much easier to deal with in ranged since throwing actually starts doing good damage IF the floorgod is lucky with the drops.

Funnily enough, looking at my scores, the majority of my post-boss-3 deaths are either to Fierce enemies or random environment shit. The worst one that I'm still giga butthurt about was getting piety cut on one floor, then stepping into a tropical floor, catching fever from the first enemy, stepping into an unavoidable tp trap, getting tp'd to the other side of the map, stepping into a sleep trap then boiling to death because the iceblock wand only had 1 charge left and I had no seeds. I think I posted my bitching about it in here some months ago, it was like the ultimate frozen (boiling) turd sandwich
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>>253076058
Well, shit does happen, I had my fair share of dumb deaths as well. How long did you try to beat the game?
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>>253076412
Like 10 days at a time every few months, playing it coffee break style. I'm counting like 40-60 tries overall? I really enjoy the game, it's pretty random in the resource department but it STILL somehow feels beatable and merciless at the same time.
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>>253062708
>just ignore this glaringly huge design flaw
no
>>253063407
I hadn't used any TP/blink/heal/fog/fear up to this point, burned them all trying to find an up-stair. Did you miss the point where i got shafted into the final fucking floor?
>>253064198
I've played and beaten sprint many times
>>253065287
Cool, there wasn't. Shafts are random and sometimes put you in completely unwinnable situations, especially in the early game.
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>>253076716
Alright, not to flex but I won in less than 20 tries, so I guess it's not that luck based. Your pastebin helped immensely though.
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>>253076957
>I hadn't used any resource at all till I got there
Sure thing Mr Fault alas 0% winrate
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>>253077205
Beautiful. You can't defend it because it's an indefensible design decision so you resort to pretending you don't believe me. Don't (You) me again, brainlet.
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>>253076957
HIDE dcss defense force posts
IGNORE dcss defense force posts
DO NOT REPLY to dcss defense force posters

Half of those are sarcasm anyway.
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>>253077039
Not me who did it, that's another anon who made the pasta (I talked to him too, he was very helpful when I was trying to ascend). Also, good going, legit jelly, if anything now I feel inspired to ascend with another class.
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>Abilities that you wish you had in real life.
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>>253079181
If someone rapes those bodies while you're not in it is it still rape?
Alternatively go fuck yourselves
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dcss is a good roguelike but a bad game
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>>253079181
Go back to /v/
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Alright so I'm playing a *band variant, frogcomposband, and playing a jelly. I can destroy shit with 'k' and when my inventory was empty it showed the list of ground targets, but now that i have shit in my inventory it always shows those and I can't for the life of me find the button to look at the list of ground targets instead. It must be possible based on the greyed out floor text
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>>253081983
Press \ I think
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>>253083263
based
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I only play good roguelikes like
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>>253083757
toejam and earl
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Can you check your mutations/descriptions in *bands?
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>>253083757
Diablo 1 with no saves
>Grid based movement
>Permadeath
Yep. It's a roguelike
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>>253087808
>not turn based
i guess spelunky is a roguelike too huh
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>>253089243
Considering that I've seen people try to argue that Angband and Nethack aren't roguelikes, I'm not sure the term actually matters.
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>>253091189
the only roguelike is Rogue
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Good night, /rlg/
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>>253087617
As I recall you can get a lot of information by pressing C and then scrolling down. Some information can only be seen if you drink a potion of self knowledge, but mutations should be freely viewable on your character sheet.
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Why are there no monstergirl roguelikes?
>>253093190
what gaem
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>>253095253
>Why are there no monstergirl roguelikes?
Noxico
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>>253093190
Game?
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While I was at a famili gathering I came up with something interesting, inspired by Ulillilla mind's game I decided to pretend to play a roguelike game in my mind, I called mindrogue, I played a couple of matches, invented classes and decided what would the potions do, I died multiple times, it was easier to play if I followed and imaginary grid in the wall.
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>>253039771
Bards will sing the tale of anon, hero of /rlg/, for many months to come.
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>>253095253
>>253095598
https://rogue.epixx.org/
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What is the purpose of gold in Rogue?
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>playing any roguelike besides ToME
/rlg/ confirmed for low IQ lo test bugmen
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>>253095759
>Ulillilla
Jeeze, that was quite the google search. I can really appreciate that kind of autism.
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>>253099274
I'd rather eat a steaming pile of dcss than touch that singleplayer mmo again.
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>>253101097
Post PCs
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>>253076957
>Cool, there wasn't
As i said, im 97.2% sure there was
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>>253091253
Which isn't a roguelike, since it is exactly rogue, not merely like rogue.
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Well, I like ToME.
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You know guys, I like ToME, DCSS, other roguelikes, and I even like roguelites!
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>>253109721
What a slut
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>>253099072
It's worth points.
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>>253108952
>>253109721
Tome 2 is ok. It's one of the better *bands at least. 4 is pure garbage, though.
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You know guys, I just realized that I didn't give frozen depths' dev an email to answer me. I just linked him the thread and called him a cheeky fuck. I'm wondering if he's actually seen the thread
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>>253109721
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>>253112778
Yes, I did. Bye
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>>253114580
>>253112778
That's not me, I did not. Hello
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>>253115770
>>253114580
The real dev would make an update on his website
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>>253112778
based
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>caves of qud
>play esper
>wander the salt desert
>stumble upon a group of chitinous pumas doing battle with a group of fork-horned gnus
>the gnus have a legendary
>know the location of three giant water weeps
>somehow become buddies with antelopes
pic unrelated
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>he plays Caves of Quck
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>he acts like a faggot
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@253117308
imagine playing caves of cuck instead of a good roguelike like DCSS
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>>253117361
>Dungeon Cringe Shit Show
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@fuckstool
So my choices are a game made by a cuckold and a game made by a tranny. Gee, it's almost like you're baiting me anon. Listen shitboot, I play what I want, you play what you want, and if you give me shit I'll call you out on it. Now sit your ass down boy, I didn't ask for your sass.
>>253065247
Because if I don't die in the Lair I die in the Shoals, and if I don't die in the Shoals I die in the Labyrinth.
>>253061649
My shaft ruins your mom's box and gives her the kid she always wanted.
>>253046467
Ragnarok has that, but it's mostly tied to urns having more urns having more urns having more urns having more urns having some green powder or a piece of meat.
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>>253117679
Imagine being this bad at DCSS. This is actually sort of hilarious, there are people in this thread right now who are winlets
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>>253117920
Well not everyone is good at DCSS. I do better at Caves of Qud and to a lesser extent ADOM. I do much better though in a lot of the smaller 7DRLs, and unless anyone else can claim otherwise I'm the only fuckhead in this thread who has beat Decker.
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Yes I know Decker is not a 7DRL, shove off. I'm not your mother, you don't get to plow me. Real issue is Drain Storm doesn't work on Windows 19 and I'm not sure how to run it in compatibility mode. That game was the tightest shit. If any game needs a remake, it's ones that don't run natively on currrent OS. Fuck remasterinng Skyrim, that game isn't even ten yet.
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>>253079181
"MY OWN CLONE!" "NOW NEITHER OF US WILL BE VIRGINS!"
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>>253117679
>Ragnarok has that, but it's mostly tied to urns having more urns having more urns having more urns having more urns having some green powder or a piece of meat.
The red bag lets you store like a million items inside and makes them weigh nothing.
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>qud somehow manages to get worse with time
Why can't open world "roguelikes" contain their autism?
What is wrong with "people" who develop them?
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ATTENTION: do not give attention to ster
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>>253121293
how did it get worse over time
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>>253122527
>item UI padded with worthless entries like "target", defaulting to "repair"
>disease that fucks with your UI by making it monochrome
>permanent stat damage enemies
>embraced dismember farming and added mine farming
>inventory operations now accumulate turn cost, so that you can stunlock yourself and then "wake up" to something chewing your face off for last 20 turns, with no warning
>slugsnouts now shoot in melee which makes them more dangerous than most enemies that give 2x as much xp
>"place turret" now requires ammo, which makes it nearly useless for its intended purpose, but does nothing to prevent part grind
Meanwhile all the easily fixable objective flaws are still in:
>painted, engraved etc. items still require manual looking at
>statues still require manual looking at
>fungus removal recipe is still a noob trap, you still want to use acid instead

They did add some non-retarded things, like AI losing track of you when it no longer sees you, but it's one step forward, two steps back, DDA style.
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To: Two, five, three, one, two, two, five, two, seven
Subject: Response

Dear Two, five, three, one, two, two, five, two, seven,

I am writing to you in regards to the post you submitted to boards.channel.org on 05/13/2019.

In that post, you asked, quote, "how did it get worse over time".

The response to your query is as following:
The developer team of Caves of Quqoldry has long since abandoned pretenses of developing the game in lieu of giving fake virtue-signaling nods towards mentally unwell individuals claiming to suffer from "transsexualism". They instead utilize their game as a political platform in order to normalize aberrant behavior such as gender-neutral pronouns instead of focusing on improving the game's mechanics. Please refer to the attached image as further evidence and do not hesitate to contact me if you have any other questions.

Yours sincerely,
Anonymous
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>>253123762
So based
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>>253122293
Is he a tomefag?
This would explain why we don't talk about tome.
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>>253118037
What's decker like anon? Tips?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>253123762
This sort of autism is exactly what I'd expect of /arelgee/.
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Fuck off recluse
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>>253106038
cool you're wrong
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dredmor is a strange game. i wonder if that skill about aliens is good. the potions are mostly useless but...
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>>253133994
Shit with cooldowns is almost universally bad, except when it's a buff.
You want spammy+scalable, proc, passive, buff or crafting. If it's neither of those, it's probably shit.
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>>253134704
the alien skill potentially can give alchemy at 6 to craft some resistances and gives 2% for random recipe when killing an enemy. alchemy at 2 or 3 allows useful encrusting too. skepticism probably can give an extra item in the mysterious portal, but i'm not sure
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>>253132214
>>253122293
We get it Malcolm you're still assmad over being retarded enough to stick with cuckcrawl for so many years and wondering why it went to shit
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>>253135991
Are you winning son?
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Your attention please, gamers for now on are forbidden to post in this general. You will be recquired to present a proof of having engaged in sexual intercourse in the last 48h.
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>>253141683
The only winning move is not to simulate play
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Playing Incursion for the first time, I enlisted a human paladin and for some reason it's attacking my lizard mount? Anyone know a fix?
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>>253143090
Is it evil?
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What is a cool roguelike I don't have to pay for
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>>253144502
Why would it be? It's the mount I started with as a lizard paladin
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>>253143090
iirc you can give orders to the companions with some key. or there is no fix for this. enlisting is useless though, most other skills too
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>>253144549
Cataclysm: Dark Days Ahead
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>>253147908
>cool
>roguelike
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>>253148175
DDA is both of those things
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>>253148403
Go back to "making your own fun"
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>>253147908
Shit game. Anyone else?
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>>253148798
Have you played roguelikes before?
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>>253149189
Yes, plenty
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>>253149365
Ok then. Try out Larn. I find the game to be pretty cool. It doesn't really follow a lot of the conventions set by the earliest roguelikes like hack or moria like so many other games do.
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http://www.allureofthestars.com/play/

OH MY FUCKING GOD THE PAIN
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>>253149653
The game tells me to choose a difficulty. What should I choose?
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>>253151104
How the fuck do you play this

Do I really have to use the mouse?
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>>253151446
Choose 0.
After you beat that increase it by 1, and so on.
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>>253152017
Nice game dude. It doesn't even have basic controls like resting.
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>>253152260
'.' will rest for a turn.

But yeah, you just got unlucky. Try again I guess.
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>>253149365
adom release 61 (2.0.0) was fun. the ice queen dungeon, farming dragons, early wishes/strength of atlas spellbook/slb/eternium armor from the tension room, killing sharad-waador in one hit... nowadays you can't even play as a barbarian or warrior comfortably, magic is essential. and magic is a bloat.
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>>253155475
Nope, just makes you a double virgin incel.
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I haven't seen a monstrous demonspawn in over 56 runs. I thought the chance was 1/10?
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>>253023294
it's great but I never got very far,just towards the pyramid then got killed by an acid trap on my way out,did you know you can download the "newer" released version that has the extra races and classes for MS-DOS that's amazing for someone who still uses wordperfect for their main writing ave
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There's literally not a single being as advanced on this plane as Biskup.
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>>253144549
Triangle Wizard
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>>253143090
Your allies in Incursion turn on each other for extremely minor reasons. Ally-based characters are fine but need to be played with the understanding that everyone is expendable.
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>>252995612
Takes away your aux attack which is like 5 dmg
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>>253144549
PrincessRL
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>page 10

Why
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>>253164126
People are busy playing roguelikes here.
Other games are mindless and then they have time to shitpost on /vg/
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never fails eh
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friendly bump
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THEY REMOVED AMULETS OF WARDING FROM CRAWL ?????
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>the jannyturd deleted my post btfoing quckposters

LMAO JANNIES LITERALLY SHILLING FOR QUD
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huh
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>>253170672
and rmut and clarity and stasis
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>>253173246
based
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>>253135991
Started playing CDDA and I've gotten a decent handle on movement, building, crafting etc for a new player. I find myself fighting the urge to make a bunch of throwaway characters to clear areas for my main character to then go loot.
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Sex is good.
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>>253178080
LIES
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dcss
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>>253170780
Missed it, repost?
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>>253159482
Dweomer Thief master race, can't even imagine winning as any other class.
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>>253161845
>Princess Maker minus the cute and funny with inferior save system
Why bother, dude. The translated DOS game is free and is still the best anyway.
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unfriendly bump!
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>>253188483
>rogue
>only gets a rating of 2 thinking guys

Sounds about right. What kind of game gets 3 thinking guys?
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>>253188785
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh CDDA
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>>253186228
Is the original game a roguelike?
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>>253194158
No. It doesn't have non-modal gameplay. There's a main menu in it separate from proper gameplay, so it can't be a roguelike.
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>>253195663
So its a roguelite?
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>>253195663
Does entering the name for your character in rogue disqualify it from being a roguelike? How about the score screen?
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>>252899395
Does CDDA have pooping and pissing system yet? Because yeah all those food has to go somewhere (either it stays in you or they go out as excrement)
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>>253198316
WTF WHY DOESNT CDDA HAVE CONSERVATION OF MASS YET.
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>>253198316
Being able to throw crap at people might be interesting.
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>>252910934
>have Self Aware trait
>oops, we can't show how much kilocaloriedollarydoo is swimming in your bloating gut, bro
wew lad
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please fuck off and never post about working as intended days ahead again
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Cataclysm Dark Days Ahead looks like a fun game.
What mods do you use?
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>>253200278
I use the "bullet in my brain" mod. Sadly it doesn't seem to be working :^(
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>>253202910
Isn't that in the base game?
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https://github.com/CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA/pull/30321
>I'm getting indefinite hangs in the starve test, I had a bunch of other stuff merged but I doubt it was from them.
The guy really doesn't test the stuff he codes, does he
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Someone make a 4chan roguelike
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Elbereth
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>>253206271
What would it be like? What features does it have?
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>>253206512
Boards are floors, you're trying to reach /j/ to slay the great evil of Gookmoot. The gimmick is that instead of actual procedural generation the game employs a system in which the respective board's catalog is accessed at map generation to create something. The slower, more static boards could be earlier to create a consistent earlygame while the fast, chaotic boards produce an interesting endgame.
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>>253206512
memes
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>>253206694
>The slower, more static boards could be earlier to create a consistent earlygame while the fast, chaotic boards produce an interesting endgame.
I think it should be the other way around because you will end up playing the early game a lot more often than the late game, meaning there should be more variation in the early game.
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>>253206831
True, and while a less varied earlygame is more boring it does lead to less early bullshit deaths since you pick up the tools for the later horseshit. Another good reason for fast boards being earlygame is that the fast boards are generally entry-level while the slow ones are more specific and niche. That being said, when the lategame is more consistent a game will basically have a sort of difficulty hump and then no more increases as after the initial struggle you know what you need to do and likely won't be taken too far off the path to that.
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>>253203384
Nah, this is an actual instance of testing before merging. You can tell because the PR is open and not merged.
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>energy randomized brimstone fiend spawns and kills Yiuf in 1 turn 3 steps before D:1 entrance

F
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>>253199562
>>253198316
Dogs do, you can already throw dog turds (frozen)
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>>253198316
If you associate yourself with nu-dda in any way, you're full of shit, so it doesn't need to go out anywhere.
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deadass
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I want to take a nap
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Sometimes I wonder about nethack
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Thoughts on Soulash?
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>>253222916
>tactical roguelikes
Sounds bad
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so apparently there's a cyberpunk hack of angband
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>hokuto no ken roguelike
holy fuck
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>>253112778
Haha, I'm a bit late but I did notice your message. Reading this thread made my day, congratulations & props Frozen Depths anon!

The game has been beaten before, but I can't remember if anyone has reported getting the best ending. Multiple people have lured the last boss back up to the first floor, killed him there and then escaped. That's actually why I originally separated the endings. Luring the boss up is clever, but not hardcore enough to deserve all the applause.

It's also fun to notice that you didn't abuse Yell, that's another skill that can be used strategically. Your speed skill strategy does seem more reliable, though.

And to prove that I'm the real Frozen Depths dev, you can check the game's home page now. I saved the legend for future generations to witness.

Oh, and I'm 100% sure no one has managed to get the best ending with an archer. :>
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>>253224735
Have you gotten the best ending yourself?
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>>253226953
Nope. Didn't have the patience to clear the way up for a smooth escape when I was playtesting the last version. I just estimated that it's possible with an optimal strategy.
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>>253224735
we big time now
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>>253224735
I love your game. I haven't beaten it, but it's given me a very fun break from the other tedium, it's mechanically interesting and it's such a shame it's not being dev'd anymore.
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>>253224735
>linked to a .html of the 4chan thread
>inside you can see the winning guy calling the dev a nigger

fucking hilarious
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>>253229910
such is life on the chan
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>>253224735
based
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High AC or high EV in Crawl?
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>>253231308
High EV anyday. It's much better to avoid 10 crystal spears than to eat every single one at 50%
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>>253231308
High AC anyday. It's much better to be able to take 10 crystal spears than to eat a single one and lose 50% hp.
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>>253229791
Thanks!

Unfortunately by this point the game's source code is an unmaintainable ball of spaghetti. Further development would be hell without extensive refactoring. I don't have the time for that, and since the code is a mix of Finnish and English, it's unlikely that anyone else would untangle it either.
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Been playing Guild, so far I like it, even made me get over my ASCII aversion, only problem is it's buggy as hell.

Are there any other roguelikes where you get a party of adventurers and can switch control over them that are aren't buggy?
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>>253231796
eiiii vittu
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>>253231796
Thats a shame. Any chance of a new roguelike being developed? Good new real roguelikes are pretty rare, so it would be a waste not to ask for it.
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https://github.com/dcandido/crawl
this is based
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>>253224735
fd anon here. I must say you are pretty damn based. What even is yell, what's the strategy there?
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>>253224435
Berserk RL exists, there's also the Castlevania RL but it's almost a decade ago. I wonder what happened to it
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>>253234830
torille
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>>253235324
Heh, and I thought those new games with roguelike elements/mix genre roguelikes were all the rage. I enjoy traditional ASCII roguelikes (real roguelikes?) a lot, but at the moment a tabletop RPG project is consuming my development time. Perhaps I'll dabble in roguelike development in the future with a smaller or otherwise experimental game, but it's unlikely to happen in a year or two.

Roguelike development has a low barrier of entry though, go start a project of your own!

>>253236890
Yell drops iceblocks randomly around you. It's kind of like a random wand of iceblock creation. The strategy is to dash away from an enemy and then yell to block said enemy away from you, or to make sure enemies can't surround you. Monsters don't destroy iceblocks so you can safely rest behind the ice wall. But as I said, it's not 100% reliable.
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Are roguelike the most unepic games?
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>>253243183
>tfw no Illiad roguelike
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>>253243183
Yes
They're also most unbased, neomarxist, SJW, postmodern, degenerate and progressive.
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>>253246107
>spawn somewhere near the outskirts of troy
>someone throws a spear at Hektor but it misses and hits you
>you die
>repeat until you spawn as someone of better blood
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I remember when I thought CDDA was a good game. I remember when I thought CDDA was a game.
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>>253246735
I remember when it was getting better rather than worse.
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>>253247110
Did they finally release 0.D?
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Finally, some news from the SLEX development front: the three stooges are back!!! They originally existed in nethack 2.3 and now they finally got resurrected!
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>>253247351
Yes
Right after introducing a bunch of retarded changes
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>>253231308
A good mixture of both if you can manage. Sh don't hurt but not as good as the others.
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>>253247465
LOL OK that's pretty awesome.
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Killed TRJ but the rune isn't accessible?
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>>253240948
>Perhaps I'll dabble in roguelike development in the future with a smaller or otherwise experimental game, but it's unlikely to happen in a year or two.
Well, i will definately look forward to it. If you ever need some dedicated playtesters I am sure we will be able to help out.
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>>253249029
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I just went to Zot: 5 with teleportitis. I regret my fault.
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>>253249029
>>253250136
nvm; old behavior, walls are diggable
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https://crawl.kelbi.org/crawl/morgue/Ezekiel/Ezekiel.txt

10 rune challenge done
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>>253254016
ZigSprint done although tbqh it's not an accomplishment at all when worshipping Qaz. I did beat it a long time ago as a NaMo^Chei, but offline
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Life sucks and then you permadie
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>>253258623
git gud
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>turn corner into GSC ogre
>chunk'd for 27dmg
>no useful scrolls or pots id'd
>take one step away
>random energy
>27 dmg, die

F A U L T
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>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
>You fall through a shaft for three floors!
You fall through a shaft for three floors!
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>>253259462
>>253259109
stop playing cuck crawl
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Imagine playing DCSS... yuck!
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>>253265887
Its only the best roguelike ever made
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>>253265969
>being the smartest kid in the retard class
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does divinity 2 count here
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yes pls post more
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I only play good roguelikes like Divinity 2
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>good roguelikes
explain
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bros im gonna play some tome soon
should I go with an scourge drake roleplayer adventurer or an adventurer who stops time and fires infinite headshots?
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You're cute, you should be my gf.
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>>253267442
nethack
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>>253267428
>>253267428
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Is it true that any roguelike can be a coffee break roguelike if you want to?
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>>253268421
who the hell takes coffee breaks?
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>>253268556
i do...
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public servants
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Pls ressbond
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>>253268814
why do you need a break to drink coffee?
I don’t get it
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>>253269241
fuck off weeb, tome sucks and nobody wants to hear about it haha jk play a skele archer on adventure mode for the lols
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>>253259109
nice pumping stealth, r-tard
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>>253269308
Fuck you you nigger. No more bumps from me, ever
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>>253269701
good, then I can die happy knowing there are no tometards in glorious /rlg/
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friendly bump
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absolutely malicious bump
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>>253274004
where is ponyboy’s ascension?
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>>253274682
the maker couldn't be bothered to update it, sadly, although I'd like to think he secretly believed bear spirit invalidated the run
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>>253274906
I remember him sperging out about for a while
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what do you guys think about pokemon mystery dungeon?

a good rougelike or commercial garbage?
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>>253280823
Its ok for a japanese roguelike. But they are kinda stretching it.
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Which god is the most redpilled?
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>>253281453
Whichever one opposes Jewzag
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>>253281453
Any one with blood and severed heads on their altars
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>>253281453
The Lady (male)
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I don’t care if rlg dies tbqh
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>>253281453
Elbereth.
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>>253289753
Y so mean?
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>>253291205
The first step in getting good at roguelikes is to not care about dieing. The last step is to once again care about dieing.
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>>253291527
I’ve never heard it put this way but that makes perfect sense
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>>253281453
Trog
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>>253292314
What version is that?
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well meaning but ultimately misguided and harmful bump
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>>253296980
>well meaning but ultimately misguided and harmful bump
The sequel.
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Temple of Torment any good?
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>>253300301
I enjoyed it enough to finish it. The dev was really responsive to feedback too but it was a year or so ago last I touched it.
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>>253140681
Why would you possibly think those two posts are me? This is my first and only post in this thread, FYI.
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>>253274682
2 of those are ponyboy's ascensions, he's just missing (rightly) the 3rd 15 rune one because he was wearing the hat of bear spirit and that was haram as fuck
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i like how malcolm's anclapistani tendencies alone trigger the fuck out of plebbitors and the devil's team but desu he's just as bad as them
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bump
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>>253308553
link
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>>253291527
Does practicing zen help with rlg?
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>>253291527
This is deeper than just vidya, it is a special case of general "theory of learning" or even living, with "dying" being just how you fail in roguelikes.

Early on, it is beneficial to explore an environment.
The actor in this exploratory phase must be tolerant of failure, otherwise the exploration will be very incomplete.
The goal of the exploratory phase is not to "win" or gather score, but rather to understand the environment by seeking novel states of it. Novelty is not a well-defined term, but many relatively simple definitions will still work here.

Once the actor passes a certain point, reaching further novel states will require suppressing the will to explore "known boring" states. For example, reaching 0 hp can be considered to be "confirmed boring" if it has happened 1000 times before and always had the same effect. It's not easy to always avoid 0 hp, but the actor will no longer actively try to get there.

This novelty seeking behavior has actually improved the game scores of neural networks that played some games.
That is: rather than actually seeking to maximize the score, the networks only tried to seek out novel states, yet they achieved better maximum scores than networks explicitly trained to maximize the score.
Now, novel->score is not 100% certain, rather it is a part of good game design. A shitty game may instead reward "loops" where you keep returning to nearly identical state but with more 9mm ammo and dildoes to craft shit you don't need with.
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Guys, why can't I choose my gender in dcss? I can't rp my loli halfling witch like this.
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What's a good team-based roguelike?
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>>253315457
Guild
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>>253315457
Dota
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>>253315457
QuD
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>>253315980
Caves of qud?
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>>253315980
>>253316213
lies, cucks of qud doesn't revolve around having a party at all
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>>253316493
>two dominate abilities for mutant, one for true otherkin
>possession ability to level up your minions
>minion-spawning abilities like fugue
Though it's not a good one because of bad game design when it comes to ally xp.
There is no way to non-tediously arm up a useful buddy, you either grow up with your Red Stone sweetheart you fell in love with when you were both lvl 1 or you slut it up and keep jumping dicks like a conservative slav girl.
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Larn kind of sucks because of constant shafting is even worse than dcss
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How are the DCSS forks? Any of them worth checking out?
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>>253316493
What this guy said >>253317343
You can make it revolve around having a party if you want to.

>Though it's not a good one because of bad game design when it comes to ally xp.
Really? I didn't notice, at least for Fugue it's perfect, and I thought it was for the Domination as well (so that you always get 100% XP no matter who makes the kill)
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>>253315457
Elona
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>>253318993
The most well-known one, I think, is Hellcrawl.

Among the ones being either actively maintained or merging most vanilla commits, there's bcrawl (which used to be X-Crawl) and Gooncrawl.

There's also Bloatcrawl, which doesn't change much to monsters/items/environments but adds a fuckload of new races and backgrounds.

See also: http://www.ultraviolent4.com/other/forks.html
And search the Tavern and /r/dcss for more forks.
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>>253318993
Hellcrawl and gnollcrawl
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>>253319246
The problem is when you want to keep longer term minions.
Minions gain as much xp as you do. If you dominate a new minion, their xp is minimum for their "race". The only way to level up the minion is to grind with it and the higher level you are, the less xp you both gain.
A late minion will never catch up with you, but will always be too dumb to flee when in danger.
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imagine splatting when you're a floor away from victory

that's what you're doing right now, /rlg/
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>>253313749
But I like grinding
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>>253313749
that works almost in any game. it's easy to find a way when you no longer have a chance of dying. or risks are minimal. though it's not working with stupid games like nethack
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bro
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>>253308553
>anclapistani
wot.mspaint

haven't you heard? malcolm is a NAZI BIGOT who wants to literally recreate the third reich and install mecha-hitler as president of the world while forcing every citizen to play roguelikes for at least three hours per day
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>>253224735
>>253229910
Epic thread
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>>253235479
Sasuga!
I might even play this again when I get free time.
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>>253315457
Can't believe nobody has mentioned demon
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>>253315457
Dwarf Fortress, after the villain update.
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fug
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50 posts from now, we'll all be dead, sort of
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>>253339358
It's not death if it doesn't end all pain.
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Let's be honest, boys.

C:DDA under Kevin is the only roguelike that has ever existed.
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I will play qud
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>>253341312
Beaten to the punch >>252892751

>>253342623
Get qukd
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godammit /rlg/ it's only been 30 minutes and we're on page 10
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>>253056652
>>253056720
His meme blob wagon hit a scooter, and he tried to slow down but the game derped and his meme wagon exploded and his character went splat from being ejected from a moving vehicle

>t. analyst
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>>253341924
It's the only one I care about. A sandbox roguelike with a pointlessly bloated crafting system is what I always wanted.
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>>253346837
>roguelike
Got bad news for you bud.
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>>253346881
Yes, and?
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>>253347051
Is ASCII a kind of tile-based graphics?
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>>253347142
Why would you even ask this?
>ASCII characters
>arranged in a x/y grid
the only difference is it's a text character instead of a sprite
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>>>/qa/2741878
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>>253351138
for the last time
moot doesn’t care about us
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don’t push me cuz I’m close to the edge
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>>253351496
Yup
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which roguelike has the biggest poz load?
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>>253356265
pozcumband
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>>253356265
>>253356367
Also known as PosChengBand
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Its kind of weird how many commercial versions of rogue there were. Heres some art for the zx spectrum. It also seems like the zx spectrum version was quite different from regular rogue.
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>>253361812
The box art.
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>>253361973
i look like this
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>>253361812
>that lower body
What
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dcss
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>>253363908
It distinctly reminds of some enemy in some 2d indie game I saw recently. Its kind of uncanny. I cant remember what it is called though.
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>>253366293
undertale?
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>>253366331
I don't think so. Although stylistically its not too far off. I think it was a side view action platformer roguelite kind of game.
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>>253366478
Was it Rogue Legacy or Dead Cells?
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>>253361973
Me in the back.
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>>253362097
Are you me?
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>>253356265
qud because the community is run by trannies who will literally call you a racist and ban you if you have a pepe as your avatar

dcss close second because surprise surprise more trannies
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>>253366967
Ah yeah, it was one of those.
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>>253368786
based and epic
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new thread soon
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hopefully never
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>>253368786
>ban you if you have a pepe as your avatar
This is deserved though
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Pepe is based tho
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I can't wait the new thread. I'm so excited I feel like I'll poop myself.
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>>253378063
just 10 more posts my friend
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>>253377724
>mad
>at cartoon frogs
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>>253379710
At this rate it will take all day! Hooray!
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>>253383189
remember we do it for free
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In bigger game genre we would be paid to post to advertise games.
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I always forgdt, what's the post limit?
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>>253384737
750 for /vg/, I think. 4chanX shows you when a thread hits bump limit, if you're interested.
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>>253385154
Cool, thanks anon
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>>253377580
only an abject retard would believe something like this
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Splat! Splat!! SPLAAAAT!!!
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new thread is up

>>253386715

>>253386715

>>253386715
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>>252826825
Thanks doc
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Test
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>>253377724
Oh no! It's a a nazi!
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>>253392590
OH snap!



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