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Everything Etrian Odyssey (References, Music, Art Books, etc.)
https://pastebin.com/27BnYt5v

Nexus is out!

>Etrian Odyssey Nexus / X
English Release: February 5th 2019 (US/EU), Japanese voices only

https://atlus.com/etriannexus/
http://sq-atlus.jp/sqx/
https://imgur.com/a/AYri24W Nexus Guild QR Codes
https://imgur.com/a/q1Wb76X JP Guild QR Codes

>Etrian Odyssey NEXT STAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0T_zIR9m60

>EOX Skill Sim
https://reinasakuraba.github.io/EO-Skill-Sim/eox/

>EOX voice lines
https://mega.nz/#!gcskxaKA!G9cx6y2fJnZPX4tgC34Ikc4_j0Hd8Vl4IAkFxCCybKE

>EOX FM OST mod
https://github.com/JeidoUran/eox_fm_mod

>EMD2: Still no localization announcement in sight
http://sq-atlus.jp/sfd2/

>EU cia and DLC (for EO5 and EO2U too)
https://mega.nz/#F!TXQW0KTJ!3Kd9kpFMh5CEr8geABEfaA
>US cia
https://mega.nz/#!PVQXECiS!Z09R0Bm3XB1ZUkf-ki4yPn7GtnCkm4a0dwye1uqIxQQ
>US DLC
https://mega.nz/#!ONRhGKjC!p7NqUJ8fRNz6F-Jt7zy_GWwjKSd4j2g4rRhrLx7VXhE
>QR code editor to make them easier to read, also works with EOV
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/9btyztah538k6jp/AACpEKTnnLi_cS7PjcMq_u4la?dl=0

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Gimme some example parties using Farmer effectively (That aren't "farming parties" ofc)
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>>243810446
large benis
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>>243810458
There aren't any, any party with a Farmer could be stronger by replacing it with another class
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>>243810458
Farmer/farmer/farmer
Farmer/Hero
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Add me NAbros
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Hey, /sqg/, want to hear a joke? Zodiac.
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>>243810458
I'm running a Ronin/Landsknecht/Farmer Survivalist/Sovereign comp right now, and it's coming together really nicely. It gets really fun when surv uses her force break and farmer gives it back so the debuff + force boost lets you dodgetank through everything even outside of blind.
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>>243810598
Honestly I don't remember zodiac being as bad as people are now claiming it to be.
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>>243810681
it really isn't
people are just mad that it's not runemaster
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>>243809715
>>243810691
It copies status ailments and force boost effect, but it doesn't copy buffs and debuffs. Dunno about the charged states.
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>lol random boss ambush and 2 bosses in a row xD

Reminds me of Dark Souls 2 le prepare to die edition: get ready for another gangrape ambush. Why is it okay when atlus does
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>>243810912
They gave you a save point
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>>243810912
Then you should know what you should do, right? Git gud.
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>>243810912
I managed to survive so I say it's ok. If I didn't then it would be bullshit and lazy design.
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>>243810681
It's not atrocious or anything but it has a lot of annoyances to deal with that aren't justified by the mediocre damage output.
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>>243810978
That's not the problem, it's completely out of place for this series
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>>243810912
Literally git gud
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>>243810978
CASUALIZED
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I wan to fug the potato
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>>243810912
Atlus can do much worse you scrub. Here you get a save point and full heal. In SMTIVA Atlus had a huge boner for 2 and on some occasions 3 bosses back to back without heals or saves
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>>243810912
They gave you a save point. They gave you miracle water to heal people.

If you think that was a gangrape ambush, you're in for a pleasant surprise later in the game.
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>>243810912
>random boss ambush
ariadne threads lmao
>2 bosses in a row
save in a different file lmao
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>>243811091
This. Save point and miracle water was too much. They should have done one or the other if they wanted to lend a hand, but not both. Overkill.
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>>243811187
I have picked up the habit of saving at every point possible due to sheer paranoia
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That double boss nonsense was bulls***. Very clearly meant to sell their overpriced XP-boosting DLC. Because your option is either sit and grind enemies that give f***-all for experience for 8 hours, or buy the DLC and cut that grind time down considerably. It's naked in its obviousness.

It's also not fun. Oh cool, so when I die I have to fight Berserker King again. For some reason. Despite killing him. Can't run. Can't regroup.

It's the first god damn major dungeon. You're still learning how your party functions as a whole, your point spread is going to be garbage because you're testing skills out, and you simply aren't going to have the TP to survive if you go in at a natural level - which is to say the level you're likely to reach the encounter at. I haven't run from a single fight and my party is L10-all. That's with doing all side quests. That's with clearing the side dungeon of the two fawns and the not-Ragelope. My only option is to load up a playlist and grind. And that's not f***ing fun.
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>>243811172
It's just embarrassing. They didn't commit to being complete dicks and then they even warn you how stupid it is that it might get your save file stuck
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The two bosses in a row was great. They should have removed the save point for heroic.
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>>243811281
4sperms are the gift that keeps giving
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Just beat Cerunnos after around 50 turns because it took so long to kill the rollers, but at least there was literally 0 risk of dying unless i attacked into a counter.
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>>243811324
So long as they kept the water it's ok to do that I guess
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>>243811369
How the heck are you doing this?
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>>243811281
Cool, I'm nor arguing that it was hard, it's just completely out of place and not in line with how they usually try to fuck you over
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>>243811369
Can you not mirage sword spam?
>>243811438
Hero is just that good
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>>243811281
The double boss was fucking easy. If you needed to grind for that you are beyond help.
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>>243811438
Max afterimage with level 1 mirage blade and dump the rest into encourage. Once 2 images go up it's a neverending 2 mirage blades per turn.

>>243811471
The moment the images stop getting churned out everything goes to shit, so probably not for now.
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>>243811464
why play something new if it just caters entirely to your expectations
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>>243811568
I probably need to reconsider how I allocate points for Hero
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>>243811301
I can't fucking wait till NA players get to the spider boss at the shrine. The massive flood of tears in this general will fuel my entertainment.
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>>243811369
Now this is cringe
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>Gave us Old Lady Rover, but no granny voice
>Gave us Murderbot 'Male' Yggdroid but the robo voice does not fit it AT ALL.
Atlus why
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>>243811621
It only works because there's enough empty slots in the party, else your image doesn't get to keep refreshing itself.
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So, does subclassing give you access to all of the subclass' usable weapons and armor types?
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>>243811679
The granny voice is better this time boyo
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>>243811737
Yes.
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>>243811638
wait, was there something special about him? just hit that mf volt prophecy lmao
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>>243811762
Which one are you considering the 'granny voice'?
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>>243811737
yeaaaaaah boy have fun with your akimbo shogunner
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>>243811891
I forget but it was definitely there. 40 or 50 something. Not at home so I can't check
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>>243811679
You know Japan's idea of robot voice is one that is stiff and formal right? So it does fit actually
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>>243811737
Not armour, except for shields
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>>243811839
No one uses shitdiac
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Is it a fair assumption that the true ending of EO3 happened in EOX? Are there any references to how the conflict between Armoroad and the Deep City turned out?

I assume canonically its either Armoroad ending or true ending
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>>243812034
enough people use her to keep calling her garbage every five minutes, so
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>>243812023
I'm fine with formal, but the 'robotic' male voice sounds like a child.
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>>243811839
The thing is that the boss pops with 0 warning and gives you 0 option to turn back. Likely at the end of your exploration run where your party's tp is spent along with possible force bars as well. If you're super lucky and happened to go back right before, it's no big deal. If not the odds are extremely stacked against. My party was somewhat spent but I managed to pass, though I know a LOT of people didn't on the first try and to them the event was real bullshit. You should consider yourself lucky you even had TP to spam prophecy.

I mean, these people are complaining about an event where the game gives them not only a save opportunity but also FULL HEAL. A situation where the game couldn't have been easier on them. What do you think they will say when they get to that?
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>>243812054
I have seen nothing hinting towards any ends in X.
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>>243812221
I'm not sure which boss you are talking about. If it's the one which poisons the maginian and searfarers at the geomagnetic pole then they absolutely give you a warning before heading in the door, in NA at least.
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Imp/Pug/Shog
Sov/Nin

Seems fine so far, got binds and ailments covered.

Don't have much in the way of AoE and TP management seems like it'll be a problem down the road.

Any suggestions?
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Based on their names and class, what's the best party I can make with these cunts?
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>>243812221
you're on the 5th floor and you spend a very *very* long time circling around what is incredibly obviously a boss arena. did the story NPCs force you through the door or something?
really, the only issue I had with that sort of thing was with narmer in the JP version where mashing dialogue with charis just accidentally shoved you into the fight, but it looks like they move the dialogue trigger a couple squares back to avoid precisely that.
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shoguns buffs dont work on element drives right
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>>243812464
Anon, you have been playing too much GBF and SV havent you?
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>>243812601
based retard
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>>243812627
No, but they have cool names.
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>>243812464
just b urself
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>>243812420
> they absolutely give you a warning before heading in the door
I'm pretty sure there isn't even a door in that "room", you simply descend from a vine into it. So probably not.

>>243812480
Not exactly. There are friendly npcs down there and they are safely reading shit on a wall. Not only is it perfectly normal to go to them to trigger the dialog event about the prophecy or whatnot, it is also what a lot of people did judging by what I've read around. This game is prone to give you extremely meta warnings before bossfights.

Also, why would you ever mash dialog?
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>>243813023
>Also, why would you ever mash dialog?
because it was the jp version.

There is a door separation though, it has all the trappings of a boss encounter.
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>>243813023
Because only like three weebs know moon and rest mash that button to skip weebglyphs
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Ah right, since in EOV the ending shot after you clear the 6th stratum features the Arken's next destination seems to actually be to Earth

Wouldnt that be a handy explanation for the Pugilists, Reapers and the other races you can use as portraits?
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>>243813209
>skipping dialogue
>in a game in a language you don't understand as well as your first language
Shouldn't you be paying MORE attention to the dialogues instead?
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>>243813209
I get there were people playing shit they couldn't understand at all at the start due to hype, but I thought they all dropped as they should have. What sort of clown would spend so much time on a game they can't read?
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>>243813387
nah
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What's a good sub for Highlander?

Thinking WM to make it an even better TP battery
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>Zelenin is my boss now
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What's your bizarro class/portrait combinations?
>a Hero with Nightseeker DLC portrait with his sword sheathed for the maximum nothen personnel
>Sovereign with a Landy portrait as a noble girl trying to mask as a commoner
>Gunner with goofy Arbalist portrait and announcer voice
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>>243813607
Landy or ronin
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>>243813547
the game was enjoyable enough that I could 100% it in spite of that. EO's never really been a dialogue heavy series, so you don't miss out on that much.
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>>243813607
Shogun
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>>243813642
Oh shit we Strange Journey now?
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Do subclasses still give access to their equipment types?
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>>243814076
Persephone has the same VA.
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>>243813642
Etrian Odyssey is a Law series.
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>>243813949
>EO's never really been a dialogue heavy series
I can't tell if you're pretending or you actually believe that matters. Being dialogue heavy or not doesn't change the fact that it still has its fair share of it and it factors into building what EO is. Fuck, how are you not aware of that? Or maybe you are pretending after all.
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>>243814167
Weapons and shields, no armor.
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>>243814250
one of the appeals of this series for a lot of people is that it isnt WORDS WORDS WORDS like most jrpgs, and has a story you can ignore if you just want to dungeon crawl
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>>243814250
If I didn't believe that I wouldn't be playing the localized version right now. I understand that I got an incomplete experience, but I still had a good time with it, does that make sense?
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>>243814171
Didn't even notice, thanks for pointing that out.
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>>243814171
So that's why she sounds like shit
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ONE MORE HITO NEMURI'D
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>>243812601
Pretty sure they are mixed elemental so everything should work for them.
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>>243814482
>no perseverance
>quick shot for a lesser experience
i feel bad for your gf m8
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>>243814784
whatever you say my dude. ain't like I'm forcing you to do it.
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>>243814592
Also her.
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>>243810598
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Imagine
EO3U with an overpowered caster MC
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>>243815141
And another one. Probably more recognizable by Atlus vidya fans.
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Does chase heal work on health loss from Highlander skills? Trying to figure out how to make Legion Charge work outside of the Force boost or Panic lockdown
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>>243815315
Test it and tell us.
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>>243815305
>Persona
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>>243815315
No, it's only when you take damage
>Trying to figure out how to make Legion Charge work outside of the Force boost or Panic lockdown
Party heal, dummy
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New to EO and Nexus is my first: is there any class that can restore TP to allies?
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>>243815574
Highlander and War Magus
Farmer can transfer it
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>>243815487
I don't actually have a medic, I was just curious. Delayed heal would probably be better for dealing with it, because Legion Charge has a 50% speed modifier, hopefully resulting in enemy attack > Charge (thus not killing your party) >delayed heal next turn
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>>243815574
A couple, Farmer gets TP share pretty early.

Highlander gets it wayy later.
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>>243814909
>whatever you say my dude
considering i didn't say anything you didn't already know or previously acknowledged that reply sounds like a kneejerk
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>>243815635
Sov too
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>>243815574
No. You'll be going back to town a lot, but don't feel shy about using skills.
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>>243815635
Sovereign too
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>>243815574
Sovereign gets the earliest ability of this type and can max it out fairly quickly but it can only be done in combat and restores ~8 TP unless you are debuffed.
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>>243815690
aight cool
you wanna armchair psych some more or are we done here
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Etrian Odyssey is the Dark Souls of DRPGs.
And "Next Stage" will be the Sekiro of EO.
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Hero/Warmagus
Gunner/Protector/Ninja

That party should work, right?
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>>243816095
Is that good?
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>>243816228
Sure, but you don't really need the protector.
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>>243815996
>I understand I got an incomplete experience
>I-I never said that what are you psych?
kek
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>>243816323
What should I use then?
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>>243816304
No
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>>243816530
Oh.
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>against blossombeast
>it has so little hp I can't even see the hp bar
>only 3 members left
>landy misses her attack
>my ninja and highlander die by receiving 28 damage from the poison, when he had 28 HP left, and 25, when she had 23, respectively
>next turn landy misses attack again and dies
>game over
Aaah... This feels good
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>>243816530
Did you play Sekiro?
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>>243816407
If you're using WM or gunner for binds you could do with some more ailments in the form of Harbinger or more damage.
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How to get Chameleon King's conditional? The same way as in IV?
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>>243816228
Yes. I'm running a similar party, just swap Hero with Highlander and Ninja with NS.
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>>243816630
It's not even out yet.
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Is there anything I should be focusing on or avoiding with my Arcanist? Like should I focus more on Binds or Ailments? As a healer I have her passively healing along with my Sovereign.
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>>243816381
joke's on you stuttering text is the best way to get me to respond all mad and seethin
the context of this entire thing was never in response to that part but the accompanying insult, but now that I look at it it really just seems kind of petty no matter how you slice it
so yeah you're probably right about me lmao
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[Hero] [Pug]
[Surv] [Medic] [Zodiac]
Starting to run into trouble now that I'm in the jungle, these jungle killers are definitely beyond what I'm able to handle at level 19 or is there genuinely something wrong with my team comp if I can't take yellow FOEs on Expert?
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>>243817067
Impressive. You managed to take 4 shit classes into your party.
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>>243817067
Clear out your team. Leave only the Hero.
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>>243811281
this seems like a gamefaqs pasta but if you're a series veteran this shouldn't pose much of a problem at all
you know how both bosses work
you know how to build a competent party by now
the game gives you more than enough exp to win by default, you're just bad
sorry buddy just turn the difficulty down that's what it's for
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Just got to the Giant's Ruins at level 17. From the horror stories I've been seeing here, am i underleveled?
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>>243817067
Zodiac and Pug can stay if you got balls. They are not top tier but they are not as bad as shitters would have you believe by their incessant WHINING.
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>>243817067
is this a shitpost?
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>>243817067
Doesn't seem like a bad team, how are you building your guys?
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>>243817205
Hey, Hero isn't shit
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>>243817273
17 is good enough to clear the dungeon but probably not the boss, wait until at least 20 to give it a shot
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>>243813327
dlc races aren't canon
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>>243817273
Not that you're underleveled, but the dungeon itself is made to test your endurance. At a certain point you have to plan between extending fights or trying to escape because of the gargoyles. I managed to beat it around the same level, but the boss is a completely different story.
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>>243817509
There weren't any DLC races in EOV though.
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>>243817347
Cool, thanks anon. That'll give me time to upgrade equipment and armor.
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>>243817297
Well they're not level 20 yet so most of them have some points in most pre 20 things. I wanna have the Zodiac casting meteor sometime. With the Pug I've not been too sure what I'm doing, the binds are kind of unreliable and the damage isn't too great but all in all it's been okay so far. The surv makes me wish Chain dance lasted three turns or something, that'd be neat. Might give the Medic like Arcanist or something as a subclass to help with binds and stuff.
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>>243814386
you can't ignore the dungeon events
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>>243817706
>you found fruit
>do you eat fruit yes/no
there that's 99% of them
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>>243817217
>>243817205
but I love them
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Is bloodlust still just that retarded skill that contributes negligible damage at the cost of wiping you on counters or does it have some use this time around?
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>>243817817
If you love them, you'll make sure they didn't suffer.
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>>243817554
>endurance
That might be more of an issue TP-wise. I still haven't found a reliable way to restore it.
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>You'll never play EO online with a few of VG bros in the same party.

I wonder how shit that would be.
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>>243817774
stink water meme
which direction do you go in a cave
who do you send up the scaffolding and how

bad post
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>>243817774
Not him but it sure is /v/ in here.
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>>243817829
the damage racks up when you have things like warrior might setups, so it's decent enough. I guess it could conceivably fuck you over for a certain superboss gimmick, but on the other hand blizzard king doesn't have counter anymore.
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>take two steps from the floor entrance
>event
>you restore 100 hp & tp
>I didn't even get into a single random battle
Thanks, I guess.
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>>243817975
>EO online
I don't want it.
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>>243817975
A highlander intentionally raping your party's HP at the worst moment is how that would be.
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>>243817284
What about Surv and Hero?
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>>243818261
Hero is broken so I don't know why you even ask. Surv is not something I'd ever use but it's usable. Medic is just trash toss it in the fire.
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>>243818261
hero is irredeemable please replace them at the soonest opportunity with a good class like war magus
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>>243818352
This but ironically
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So after my first attempt at the Wyvern, losing at 60+ turns, I'm beginning to think my team is a little short on offense.

Hero / Protector
Sovereign / Arcanist / Zodiac

Everybody is level 20. I was able to last over 60 turns thanks to passive healing and Sov and Arcanist essentially having infinite TP thanks to Royal Lineage and Proficiency but everybody else was out of TP by the end. Zodiac was spent first, naturally and only good at soaking a hit from Shining Breath or whatever that shit was called.

Think I should continue with these guys or make some changes? I can't say I had any issues up until this point.
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>went to process of upgrading from a9lh to b9s to download extra portraits
>triple exp doc and bikini armor cost 8 pln each

Four soups total... No way, guys.
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>>243818753
Where's your damage?
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>>243817975
I play Final Fantasy Record Keeper with the boys over on /ffg/ and it is super duper fun. It would be fun to have raid bosses and everyone uses their own Etriam to fight.
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>>243818590
You are the only person I've ever seen use that Ninja portrait.
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>>243818795
Hero and Zodiac.
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>>243817220
>tfw series veteran but the only boss who's gimmick I remember is Crystal Dragon due to being the only non-superboss that I had a really bad time with
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>>243818753
take out arcanist and just use that slot for more mirage sword afterimage spam
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>>243818753

I guess you cant land binds? Leg and head binds are really useful with wyvern.
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>>243818590
Anon has good taste in Ninjas.
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>>243818819
>everyone uses their own Etriam to fight.
God forbid you go outside the meta, you'd get crucified.
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>>243817008
I prefer binds over ailments.
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Is Wyvern actually that hard?
I was able to beat it on my first attempt with a
[Hero, HighLander, Princess, Medic, Zodiac (lv. 20) ] party with some of them having half of their SP used.

Zodiac was the shittest one on that battle.
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>that stupid high encounter rate
>F.O.E that aggros when in battle
>long, winding rooms

I see your gimmick, devs, and raise you some Ward Chimes.
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>>243818794
Poland is very affordable, isn't it
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>>243819168

Like with all bossed on 3ds etrians - if you lack damage output, you will suffer because of hp bloat. Turtling is not viable anymore since you won't outheal and survive on tp long enough.
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>>243817067
Nevermind I actually did get past one fairly easily after getting a good blind shot, this party's gonna work forever
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So when is a good time to go links for a landy, i know its not the greatest but i just like em and i just hit 40, been just using the shield skills and physicals till now but wanna try em out, or should i just wait till subclassing?
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>>243817067
Oh shit I forgot to go back and do the triple scorpion room
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>>243819458

I tend to count everything in soups or monthly public transport tickets since my scholarship ended and cant go to job since still having phd to finish.

Maybe one day I will be rich enough to simply buy stuff without saving for longer time (Switch costing my entire monthly scholarship back then) but I guess nobody wants physicist anymore.
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For those of you running Survivalists, between their low str/weapon class damage and their high skill modifiers, how much damage do they actually do?
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>>243815882
It's 8+ 3% at max level so it restores more like ~15, which is really worthwhile, I think
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>>243820005
It also serves as a wonderful emergency heal.
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Maybe it's just me, and I can see why it would attract people, being the newest entry and all; but I don't really think Nexus is the most newbie friendly EO, what with the amount of classes and having to go through 15 different green forest floors(some of which you'll eventually revisit if you play the previous ones) before getting something different can be quite a hurdle to avoid sameness.
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>>243819839
they're really good for running away!!!
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>>243819839
at a level 40 snapshot, level 6 drop shot does roughly the same damage as level 9 upper stance air blade for me, and multi-shot about half of what landsnack's double strike and a third of ronin's helm splitter. I haven't upgraded my bow since narmer though.
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Why is link finale so shit? 470% at max links and at the end of the tree like it's some ultimate coup de grace when you'll still have the SP to grab Swift Stab and use it instead
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>>243819004
Yeah pretty much everyone has the same meta characters and if you don't have one then you don't get invited unless some whale has some really broken shit and can hard carry.
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>>243818753
are you allergic to damage dealers
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>>243820095
Playing Nexus first is such a disservice to yourself. There are so many cameos and callbacks to the other games.
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>>243820404
>"Player 4 has entered the party"
>it's a fang
>"Player 4 has been kicked from the party"
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>>243820139
Ronin I know shits on everything but being that far below Landy is worrysome. Might just be the weapon though, the damage formula has apparently been changed such that even a point of armor/attack matters
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How much damage do you lose with survivalist compared to Gunner?
400% attack novice skill does look interesting but there must me a catch.
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>>243820301
because you're interpreting it wrong. +30% damage per link is +30% damage of the base skill, so it's actually a 60% boost per link at max level. with maximum procs, that gives you 740% instead, and since it can pick up sovereign elemental arms you can still hit weaknesses unlike swift stab.
so if your team has something like a zodiac for link feeding, then you can use that while zodiac charges up another multi-strike to maintain damage.
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>>243820736
Thanks for clarifying, that makes a lot more sense.
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are links even good in nexus when you can just burst shit to death with imperial or gunner, and you dont even need to build a team around gunner
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>>243810978
Why the fuck is there a savepoint there? The answer is that they realized they had created something really tedious and shitty, and rather than adjust the implementation they broke series protocol and had to 4th wall break to tell you "hey maybe dont fuck your save file here and make backup" which is just bizarre. Its such a strange way to end the first real dungeon in the game.
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>>243820886
they're good by virtue of landsnack having the strongest force boost/break in the game, even if you can technically take more advantage of full break/shield flare by the same route
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Is Tactical Decree any good?
Recovering TP sounds good.
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>>243820686
They're STRlets so alot.
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>>243821609
It's pretty weak and if you're using sovereign correctly they should have hardly any free turns.
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>>243810912
the boss has half its fucking health dude. stop being such a faggot. they also literally full heal you and let you save between the two bosses
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this game good
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>>243822062
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>>243817596
Just ignore the entirely optional boss, i don't know why you fags are so obsessed in bashing your head against it
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>>243814172
LAWFAGS GET OUT!

This message brought to you by the neutral sons of man.
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>>243822389
t. picnic
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>>243822389
I'm not even close to the boss. I just think the medic girl is cute and I like exploring
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>finally unlock subclasses
>idontknowwhatimdoinganymore.png
>slap random shit to my party
>Hero/Ronin, Seeker/Hero, Sov/Arc, Ninja/Shogun, Harb/War Mango
>kill big white dick anyways, didnt felt i used my subs
I have no fucking idea how to sub these classes. I've been pretty vanilla for 50 hours already and now i have a mental block with this.
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>>243821886
I am not sure what I am supposed to level up on the Veteran's skills of my Princess.
I guess Prevent Order is a must.
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>>243822560
t. retard
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Is Sovereign's Tactical Decree (the TP on taking damage one) something that actually works?
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>>243822609
you basically just pick subs for passives if you don't know what else to do. at half level most attack skills that aren't imperial's aren't worth it.
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>>243822580
>I just think the medic girl is cute
shit tier opinion, see >>243822185
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>>243822560
>t.panic
FUCKING NINJAS
>>243822774
I figured but since i went full brainlet i thought it was a fantastic idea to spec skills instead. I'll rest them all and think really hard about it. Need dem synergy
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>>243822623
Prevent is really good and Prevent is really important against certain bosses later on if you're the primary healer. Other than that you need to get Attack and Guard order to 7/8. If you're the healer you should also get Royal Dignity to allow you to keep your passive heal on against all party attacks from bosses. On top of Protect Order it'll let everyone heal to full at the end of turn for a really long time. If you're not the healer then you just need to work on maxing element arms.
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>>243822609
Honestly, nothing wrong with just picking a sub that has beneficial passives for the class like increased chance for ailments/binds or just raw stats like HP/TP and damage/defense.
I plonked hero onto my protector because of the covering passives and it gives me the option of going into the shield skills as well if I wanted to.

Don't think too much about it.
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>>243822995
Prevent is really good and protect is really important*
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>>243822609
When in doubt, just put gunner on all your damage classes for the astronomical chance of getting a double proc of your big boy attacks.

Has saved my ass a few times on my Imperial getting double full charge and buffed accel drives when I was 100% going to die the next round.
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>>243822693
Why is it retarded to not want to trivialize content by coming back later? Every extra maze boss so far can be done around the same level as the main boss in the area.
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Is ronin still a good subclass from passives for solo ailment dealer NS if I cbf to refresh stances? Last thing I want to do after setting up an ailment is spend a turn on renewing a stance instead of spamming shadow bite before the ailment runs out
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>>243823243
Not really, all the talk about Ronin being the Bushi sub of Nexus was blown out of proportion, stances are a hassle and often force you to lose an armor slot for a katana and you lose the duel bonus every time you do something that isn't an attack
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That Armoroad hoplite girl, Chris or something - judging from NPC reaction in town, it will be the same as with that ninja guy and.zodiac girl from III? I mean, that if I will help her, she will die?
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>>243823243
if it bothers you that much then just spend a couple turns stacking up upper stance more before going into ailments
landsnack is a better option for consistency though
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>>243823407
You can protect that smile
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Are you supposed to use 2 weapons on Nightslayer, or is that a trap?
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>>243822995
>>243823105
Thanks, I'll take note on these.

>>243823407
>First time I see her : Samus, is that you?"
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What are good subclasses for the different Gunner builds?

Elemental vs. Ricochet
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>>243820095
As it's a celebration of the previous ten years, most new players won't the best experience at all.
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What's the least useless subclass for a medic?
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>>243823746
What if I don't want to?
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>>243823395
Hm well I'm already using 2 weapons because the second slot can be used for str forged swords/daggers and night seeker just about never stops attacking barring niche situations like setting up spread or Shadow cloak. I might just do what >>243823449 suggested and just stack upper stance before going for ailments
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>>243823803
LS is good for gunner because vanguard lets you mostly get over the 2x charged penalty and the accuracy bonuses help ricochet, along with single devote and stuff. Ronin is ultimately stronger for minmaxing though, but no equip slot + 2x charge damage means you really need to be confident on your shutdown.
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>>243824007
not picking medic
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>gloomy
>believes he is cursed
>from Etria
Why the heck is Leo a reaper instead of a hexer?
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>>243824253
they didn't want to double up on NPC classes.
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>>243824147
Should be noted that LS proficiency and initiative works with act quick, and act quick > maxed charged shot is your bread and butter for random encounters and even bosses for a while until TP is a non-issue
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>>243823220
sure because you totally didn't kill golem a million times already in previous games
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>>243824321
But there is no hexer NPC in this game.
And there IS a zodiac NPC.
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>>243824323
>charged shot
>random encounters
nani
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>>243824064
BUT THOU MUST
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>>243824530
Also forgot to add in maxed scatter shot but yes, charged shot is great for priority targets. Quite a lot of enemy formations hides a priority targets in the back row
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>>243824365
What does that have to do with anything? If it can be done at a level with foreknowledge it can be done by figuring it out too.
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Anyone know how much of a damage boost the sword weapon AoE buff is?
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>>243824007
Sovereign & Harbinger give you things to do when no one needs immediate heals.

Zodiac if you want Prophecies.

If you’re using Deja Vu other classes healing skills can be used to heal without overwriting your last used medic skill.

Protector gives you a way to clear binds if you’re head bound + heal guard, shields & general protector utility.

Gunner gives you Medic Bullet for high action speed ailment removal + Accuracy Buffs & Gun to contribute to Shogun commands if you’re running one.

War Magus should be self-explainitory.
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Stratum boss right after you finish fighting a boss
Now this is based.
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Etriams are for _______
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>>243824502
___
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>>243811301
What is your complaint here? Would you rather they not give you a save point? Would you rather not get the warning and potentially fuck your save file over completely?

Please don't tell me the complaint is having to fight two bosses in a row. That would just be pathetic.
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>>243825027
Being raped in the wood by deer
>no furyhorn hunt quest named "do or doe"
Worst game
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>>243815639
You could always have Medic Overheal

50% - 34% = 16% damage cost total
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Is it me or does subbing suck ass in EON? It feels like I'm trying to find the sub that sucks the least than what would be the best.
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I don't like my Shogun ;/
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>Cruella and Diabolix
I want to commit a crime boys
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>tfw only used a gunner once at lvl 24
>tfw dished the proc and by the 2nd dungeon
>survivalist was doing piss damage so dropped by the 3rd dungeon
>never used the shark and war fangus
>lol highlander
Well this is fun...
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>>243826112
It doesn't suck ass it's just very weak compared to what we are used to since skills are no longer frontloaded. If they were, this game would be even easier than it already is considering all the tools we have.
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>>243826112
After 3 Atlus tried really damn hard to burn the function to the ground. Now all you can do is choose a sub for literally one passive most of the time, sometimes two if you're lucky.

No fun allowed.
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>>243826260
>never seen these 2, yet
Oh boy am i in for some nudes?
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>>243826112
It's basically just shopping for passives. There are a few exceptions though like Landy/Shogun for Full Charge Warrior's Might. When not doing that you can probably use Links with Peerless demon > Link Smash so it's a solid unit both in and outside of cheese setups
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Just used exp boost dlc to level up a harb to my current party. I feel like a cheater.
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>>243826428
But that's literally the only good use for it.
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harbinger subclass?
I've already got an arcanist
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>>243826551
I did Ronin for Speed Up just so they can go first and use Wilting Miasma before my Ailers get their turn.
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>>243826260
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>buff up
>final decree turn 4
>FOE dies
this is stupid
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>>243826112
Subs this time around are more about covering areas your lacking in rather than trying to meta up a broken combo of classes.

It's objectively better this way. There are multiple viable options depending on what your party needs rather than having one or two blatantly correct choices to raise your character's performance exponentially.
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>>243826280
>lol highlander
What does this even mean?
What does this whole post mean? You're allowed to make use of all classes
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>>243824831
122%-130%
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>>243826551
I did Zodiac. My harbinger was full support and being able to nullify any element with zodiac prophecy on top of the zodiac TP passives it seemed like a good fit at the time and it kind of proved to be in practice too.
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really starting to miss having a gunner after reading this thread, but if I don't have 3 frontliners then sovereign is worthless. nice to see they're OP as usual
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>>243826906
It's more boring. I prefer the EO5 way of doing classes, but I didn't have any hopes that they would've gone that route with EON. I just hope that they ditch the subbing in later EOs because they clearly aren't interested in doing anything clever with it.
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>>243827151
Make Sovereign one of your frontliners, EZ
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>Finally get subclasses
>Get bored of the game
I guess redoing the same old dungeons and going through the same looking Shrine stratum ad nauseam wasn't so fun after all.
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icky ricky she's so sticky
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Yesterday I was playing through the third stratum, beat Cernunnos at midnight and was in BF14 around 5am (I grind a little beforehand). The soothing atmosphere made me half asleep, I was in a sort of automatic mode and then, without warning, in an instant, you go from this https://youtu.be/1Tw-7kMf4jg?list=PLFABB402B4A9DA2B9
to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2fnCE-CcI
I was startled why do they do this ?
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Have Sovering eat 3 Pop Flare buffs with Negotiation for TP restore
Slow and steady my girls...
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Does EOX get harder after 2nd stratum? I don't like the fact that I was able to first try the stratum boss(es)
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>>243827893
Are you on Heroic?

Rest a few times.
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>>243826750
Why not survivalist then
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how do I activate the DLC cia?
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>>243827220
but then muh royal veil won't activate
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>>243828189
I dunno, that works too I guess. I went Ronin for the possibility to use Stances if I need even moar Speed, but you need to equip a Katana to use the Stances.
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>>243828273
Don't underestimate a maxed out reinforce + Royal Dignity. Also as long as you keep them one off of max, Attack/Guard Order are free if you have Royal Lineage maxed.
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>>243827893
No it doesn't. It's just the kind of game it is.
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>>243828117
Heroic is the only difficulty. I would rest but I don't think Im overlevelled, Lv 13 for cernunnos.
>>243828437
I'll drop hero for a Ninja then, seems like he is OP
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Those blue fish in the 4th Labyrinth
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>finish getting all the hero skills to 7/8
>time to get accel drive
>it's 16 level away
Is this even worth it? Should I just get a Lands sub for Heroic Bonds+Proficiency?
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>>243827465
I can't make out the first character on the yellow background
>フレドリカを起こしますか?
>起こす
>[?] 耳に水を試す
>そっとしておく
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How much of a bad idea is a harbinger/princess for an all-in-one buffing and debuffing unit?
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>>243828575
Hero is somewhat OP early on in the game due to having high damage right out of the gate but it's really nothing special later on.
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>>243810458
Farmer/Nightseeker/War Magus
Arcanist/Sovereign
Part of me feels Ninja would have been better than Nightseeker, but another part of me feels NS/Nin might be better than Nin/anything in this party. But I'm having fun either way so whom carest.
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>>243828730
Pretty bad. You're giving too much work for one character.
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>>243828742
>final decree force boost regiment rave after image is nothing special
alright
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Jesus how the fuck do you build Princess? I want everything.
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>>243828908
I understand this.
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>>243828824
But does that count as bullying a chuuni?
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>>243828908
You have to be a supporty support or an element arms bot.
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>>243828575
>uses hero
>complains that the game is too easy
come on
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>>243828840
>bringing other classes into the equation
Do you have any idea how fucking retarded you are? If you want to use the optimal scenario there are multiple classes that can do more damage. Don't be a faggot.
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I miss Alchemist, having them as a DLC portrait and not a playable class is shit.
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>>243829068
Im going in blind, I don't know which classes are strong. Also who wouldn't try out the only new class
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I still hate the pull-tab shit for map icons
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>>243828840
That's more final decree's fault than anything.
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>>243824064
>not wanting to protect that smile

You filthy F.O.E.
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>>243828671
Sleep Kanji
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>>243829151
You're right, but force boost regiment rave outdamages Accel Drive so it doesn't matter anyway
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>>243829290
>it's the only new class
>it's heavily shilled
>people in general seem to be riding hero's dick (feminine dick if it applies)

It was incredibly obvious that it was going to be a broken class. I also went in blind and completely skipped on Hero because I had the feeling it was going to be a crutch class, and guess what, it fucking was.
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Harbinger's improvement from V to X is incredible. What other class has gotten so much better from one title to the next?
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>>243829954
You're not allowed to complain about Hero being a crutch class if you're also using Protector, Sovereign, Gunner, Ronin, Harbinger or Highlander.
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>>243830125
ronin from U2 and ninja. sovereign was never really bad but it was outclassed in 3 and not as minmaxed in U2 so having a complete monopoly on the support system is fun.
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>>243830146
The only class from those that I'm using is Highlander, but I'm not using her for the boring WM memes, which is apparently what makes Highlanders so broken.
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>>243830146
>Can't use 1/3 of the classes in the game or else you're using a crutch
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>>243830298
lmao
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>>243830146
Jokes on you I am running
Shogun/Ronin/Pug
Medic/Ninja
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>>243830146
The only shitter classes are Hero, Nightseeker & Gunner
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>>243830125
>Harbinger's improvement from V to X is incredible
Depends what you mean by improvement. More like they had their role repurposed so it wouldn't step on the Nightseeker's shoes.
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>>243830331
Hero isn't any better in any role than any of those classes in theirs which trivialize a lot content in the same way.
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>>243830408
>Ronin
nice crutch
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>>243830539
Ronin is only good as a subclass
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>>243830539
>no fun allowed
Ah, Atlus. I didn't know you posted here as well.
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>>243830591
Not even close, main class Ronin dumpsters the entire main game.
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>>243830484
harbinger got a lot of QoL changes from their V version. they don't need to dump 10 points into a passive to have miasma active at the beginning of fights, have an actual TP pool now that the dumb race system restrictions are dealt with, and don't have to refresh miasma every time they use a wall or atonement. also ephemeral reap doesn't clear debuffs anymore but it also sucks so that's really just a cat's game
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Shogun with Ronin subclass is good, right?
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>using broken crutch classes
>using classes just because they're not as good as broken crutch classes
>using anything other than five farmers
lmao@u
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Speaking of crutches, what's a good subclass for Sovereign? I was going to use Shogun for commands to trigger links but links are garbage so I stopped using them.
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>can't play the game or else someone whines about one of the classes you're using
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>>243830953
Protector or Arcanist
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>>243830754
While those are all nice changes, it sucks that there are no effective ways to turn the Harb into a damage dealer anymore. Fatal Reap sucks ass and they don't have Frigid Reap either because that'd be too samey with the NS.
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>>243829804
Afterimages hardly benefit from buffs which makes them pretty much inline with any damage class + clone
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>>243830973
As long as you're not using Hero, all is fine.
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>>243830953
Highlander sub is good due to Bloody Offense and Blood Fortune. There's also Zodiac if you want an encounter reduction skill and a way to block elemental moves if you have the spare turns. Then you have Ninja where you can clone the sovereign and they each spam Final Decree while buffing eachother.
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I hate that Harbinger is considered a shitter class. I'm only using it for the bind synergy, anyone who's just using one for the debuff spam would be better off with a War Mage.
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>>243831049
Arcanist looks awful, why the fuck would you do that? You're never going to inflict anything and the debuffs aren't worth using over buffs.
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>>243830953
>but links are garbage so I stopped using them.
Anon, if you think Links are garbage it means that you're not even halfway there to getting subs yet. You needn't worry about them just quite yet.
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>>243830484
I hate it. There was a lot of excitement in the maluses the class had with the old Ephemeral or Temporal. It's a little too safe a class now.
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>>243831198
Circles are FREE healing & TP regen. The odd para infliction is just a bonus.
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>>243830617
They've been screeching about dataminers and skill sims for the past week anon
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>>243831193
WM sucks for debuffs because they don't have the force break or ailment miasmas for bosses and don't have AoE for encounters
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>>243831273
What the fuck, are they asking me to single-handedly genocide these forest cuties? shit just got real
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What's with all the faggots bitching about what classes people are using? I've used every single class this game has before except Ronin, Harbinger and Hero.

Don't tell me what to fucking do nerds.
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>>243831383
WM just sucks in general until endgame
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>>243831316
But you don't need any more healing than protect order, TP is never an issue anyway and you're never going to get a paralysis when you need it due to shitty luck and half points from subclassing

>>243831224
I'm at level 70, you have to build an entire team around them and even then they're not better than other full teams like WM
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guys where's fafnir
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>>243831601
They're all idiots.
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>>243831693
le fanrir nite died on the way back to armoroad
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>>243831273
I wanna toss that salad.
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Wow, I can't believe Shilleka's English voice in EOU fits her way better than the JP voice in EOX.
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>>243831601
Everyone missed the point, people seem to think Hero is by far the best class in the game that makes everything so easy when in reality it's not really better than the other good classes at what it does, it just does it more obviously.
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>>243831663
>you have to build an entire team around them
All you need is a Nightseeker or a Shogun.
>and even then they're not better than other full teams like WM
You must be doing something wrong then. My Landshark is out damaging my WM thanks to my Nightseeker enabling him with Swift Edge.
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>>243832009
If your WM is losing to links then you're really doing something wrong, post your WM party.
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>>243831968
next time you should buy sometin
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I can't tell if you guys are talking about war magus or warrior's might this abbreviation sucks
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>>243832187
Nightseeker/WM/Land//Ninja/Harbinger
Even maxed out Ailing Slash can't out damage Links. Try it again.
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>>243831995
People think it's good because it has really high damage modifiers on its Novice skills and it makes use of the 6th slot earlier than anyone else can
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>>243832216
tanks fer da bizness
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What's the damage bonus for hitting an elemental weakness?
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>>243832257
wm obviously since there is no party that revolves around wm
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>>243831995
This. It's a good as a training wheel class, but I noticed that its overall effectiveness began to even out when I was doing the 2nd boss fight and then replaced my Hero after that with a more enjoyable class.
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>>243832496
this
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>>243832408
enemy dependent. in general it's 1.5x though.
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>>243832408
I'd say like 2 or 3
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>>243832408
Depends on the enemy. In general in Nexus it's x1.5 while some are x1.25 or x1.75. In other games it's mostly just x1.25.
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>>243832556
That's it? I thought people were saying they raised it, which is why most elemental skills have ass for damage modifiers.
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>>243832309
Ailing Slash is shit in Nexus, that's why. So are links.
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>>243831995
>>243832345
>>243832523

Pretty much this. I'm running:
Hero/War Magus//Gunner/Princess/Arcanist
The rest of the party is doing great but the Hero isn't really living up to their role as pure damage output. I'm going to experiment with switching in some other classes and see what happens.
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>>243832765
It used to be 1.25x
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>>243832772
>it's not grossly OP anymore so it's shit
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>>243828213
>WM memes, which is apparently what makes Highlanders so broken
Huh?
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Bindchads rise up. Just wait until postgame when my Pugilists are fully skilled and then you ailment fags will see.
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>>243832973
Indeed
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>>243832973
That's exactly right.
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>>243832990
Binding is the only real way to play.
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>>243832990
*clears all your binds*
*dabs*
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>>243832990
Gunner is a better binder than Pugilist
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>>243833305
delusional
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>>243832772
For those wondering Ailing Slash lost 100% damage only scales with the WM average STR. It's not that much weaker than the old Ailing Slash but it doesn't have level 20 via grimoire now so it might seem comparatively weak.
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>>243833305
Why even bother binding if you're not going to go for FULL BIND
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>>243832990
why that when you have the chance to bind everything with an imperial leg slash, gunner arm shot and medic head bash in one turn?
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>>243833350
They have higher base induction skills, a better boost for binding, higher strength for landing binds, and they get a weapon that provides a bind all skill.
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>>243831968
Yeah, her and Wiglaf felt extremely miscast. They don't sound remotely black.
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>they just use rising again for the rival fight
damnit yuzo this entire game's already 90% reused assets throw me a bone here
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>>243833579
>induction
Meant infliction
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How do I put the DLC in Citra, I keep getting an "Unable to load add-on content" error.
I'm using the NA dlc and NA game
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>>243833728
How does a black Japanese girl sound like?
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>>243833579
a bind all weapon skill you say? i'm assuming thats not till way later of course
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>>243833883
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>>243833736
We get one? Neat. Was a bit worried since V didn't get one
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>>243833883
45 but with attempts at ebonics
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>>243833883
wakamoto
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>Seafarer Princess
>finds items and restores tp as you walk
She's a farmer!
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Do Protector's offensive Shield skills scale with anything other than their shield? For example a weapon or accessory with STR.
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>No Seafarer class
>Can't recruit any of the NPC adventurers

W H Y
H
Y

EOIV sucked but at least they got that right
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>>243832990
Gunner is better for binding a single part. Pugilist is better for getting multiple binds up, but the problem is that binding one part is usually all you need to handle most bosses/FOEs. Multiple binds is less for your party's benefit and more for pugilist to actually do something resembling damage
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>>243834283
Just like Wiglaff!
Only she didn't even recover TP.
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>>243833904
Yeah it's post game but the person I was responding to was talking about post game pug.
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>>243834339
Check those little icons on the skill. Looks like STR.
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>>243833883
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>>243833883
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is it ever explained why you're the only guild not retarded enough to try labyrinth exploring with only one or two people
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>>243831601
I only see a lot of people saying Hero is easy mode. He's very good I agree and his afterimages plus extra healing can really come in handy, but my Ronin does way more damage and he's not really that tanky to actually replace a Protector. It's a fun class, but far from OP.
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>>243835263
I don't know if I've built something wrong, but at the novice level she's the less useful member of my party. And I have an arcanist.
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>>243835235
because the guildmaster saw those groups of two bumbling retards and said hey maybe you should roll with a group of 5
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>>243835263
you say replace protector like one is actually needed in the first place
hero has the second best defensive skills in the game on top of force restoration, party HP restoration, the earliest all-target damage skill, and is one of the most exploitable classes to sub with due to afterimages
it may or may not be more OP than Princess in this game, but it's a blatantly unbalanced class
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>>243835235
And yet we are still too retarded to actually fill the whole party.
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So, I just did all the steps for unlocking Vampire (the updated ones), but I have no idea how to tell if it worked. I heard someone at the bar will appear, but there are no new patrons after battling 5 times with a guest character and having 100 Guild Cards while playing in Heroic.
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>>243835575
One point into Mirage Sword, Wide Bravery, Frigid Slash, Encourage, Afterimage and Physical Shield(optional) then max out Afterimage.

>>243835649
>it's a blatantly unbalanced class
It's really not. It's very strong early on but that's it. In the mid and late game there are multiple classes that do more damage. It's decent at several things but excels at nothing.
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>>243834368
>wants perma joinable npcs
wrong game dude

what's next romances?
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>>243836045
Return to title and load your save again
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>You'll never wander into the labyrinth with a full 99 man party
Get working on it Atlus.
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Mapping labyrinths is dandy but what the people really want is to map an adventurer.
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>>243836305
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>>243835575
At Novice level I gave mine max Afterimage and Mirage Sword, then I invested 4 points in Encourage so he could synergize better with my Sovereign. Frigid Slash is also very good, especially in Primitive Forest against the slimes, but I actually unlocked it after I unlocked the Veteran skills.

>>243835649
>unbalanced

And how many points do you need to invest so he can get all of that? At how level does he actually become OP? You talk like we're all starting at max skill points available. Right now I'm using mine as a damage dealer plus passive healer, I still need to consider between elemental skills, Graceful Image or Great Bravery and that even before reaching Lv40. He might have a lot of good skills for an all-around usage, but nobody will be able to use them all until very late in the game, and that without even counting subclassing which people will dedicate more points to those skills.
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>>243836305
What's in the boss room?
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>>243836305
i bet you fags wall off the vagina
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>>243836305
>full automap is not full
ewww
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Can I get away with Farmer + Harbinger as my only healers?
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>>243836086
It's pretty much what I've been going for, physical shield included. Lots of stuff to do but usually outdone by other characters.
Not like I'm gonna give it too mcuh shit for it, it's just the novice tree.
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>>243836305
Needs a Teach and Mediko version of that old Andy Sweetie comic.
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>>243836171
Nothing new still.
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>>243834942
I just remembered that in Air Gear the romantic interest of one of the MC's best friends changed body with fucking Obama.
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i hate how unexpressive the heros look
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>>243835235
Guild card guilds are presumably five people.

As for NPCs - have you seen how stupid they are? No one wants to take them into an actual party...
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How the fuck do you get Silurus out of the ground when he goes under? He literally won't Earthquake and has regened for 25 turns.
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>>243834250
There's no Norio voice in Nexus.
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>>243836772
hit the correct shadow lmao
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>>243836772
sub-charis iq
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>>243836481
Harbinger heal is very unreliable since you can not spam it or use it outside of battle. And it can be shut down easily - head binds prevent the heal itself, armbinds prevent using Miasma Armor (even with the "cast on using a debuff" passive).
Somas get unlocked pretty late like always so you would need to throw a ton of Medicas. All around it will be annoying as all hell.

I don't recommend it at all but it might work.
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>>243836772
Just hit the right hole, or hit them all at once.
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>>243836664
worked on my machine
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>>243836772
Just hit the hole he is hiding in. Line-wide damage is your friend.
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>>243832523
>killing the entire enemy party in one hit with shock spark isn't fun
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>>243836764
Use some of those dank old DLC ones
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>>243811369
Hero/sovereign duo party is legit and pure fun. I can guarantee you that
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>>243836772
charis has a free aoe you can use to get him out of the mud on turn one
you did bring her with you, didn't you anon?
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>>243818753
>attempt Wyvern again
>manage TP perfectly
>Sov buff rotation down pat
>Arcanist guarding + using items if need be
>Zodiac ran out of TP 35 turns ago, reduced to guarding
>Hero and Prot auto attacking with Freeze Arms
>final turn
>everyone but Prot and Arcanist acts before Wyvern
>Wyvern Shining Breath hits Prot with every attack
>Prot dies
>Arcanist bonks it for 7 damage
>it dies
All that exp my Flatress missed out on.
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>resorted to killing all the FOEs in Iwaoro's room
brainlet lyf
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>>243837431
Zodiac really needs a TP healing skill, like for each turn you defend you recover 1 of TP or so.
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>>243837750
i was having a mental breakdown in the last floor of petal bridge, the top left with the 3 rhino FOE's and the platform puzzle, i eventually just turned and killed the rhino so the other 2 could fall off, fuck me i'm retarded.
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>>243836772
25 turns later and you don't realize you actually have to attack so he pops out.
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>>243837828
That'd encourage really lame turtle strats
Just use sov's negotiation bro that's what it's for
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I'm trying to settle on my party.
Right now I have ronin, ninja, harbinger and sovereign.
I'm trying to settle on the other attacker. First instinct ws gunner because of ease of use, but that back line is looking pretty crowded. Next I'm leaning for highlander, but I don't know if the elemental skills of landshark or imperial would be better.
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>>243837431
What about using those amritas in the one party member that needs amritas?

>>243837828
Don't they have a skill that restores TP for every kill? As well as their force boost.
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>>243836305
Where's that picture of an EO map where someone drew a naked lady on it
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>>243838289
I wanted to save them in case something happened with my Sov/Arcanist's TP management.
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>>243838134
Frontrow harbinger is actually pretty good, it gets healing and defensive passives to compensate and its damage isn't bad at all
especially considering how good of a crowd control unit it is it'll synergise well with ronin I think
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>>243838289
TP on kill doesn't do anything against an FOE or boss that doesn't have tons of adds. It's minuscule anyway, 3+2% at max. Boost only restores half the cost of whatever spell you cast.
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>>243837221
That's only a few encounters and it's actually fun as hell.
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Uhhh
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How much would slutty hero charge for you to smell her butthole?
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>>243838756
Gunner BTFO
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>>243838779
if you're smart about it, nothing.
she's always willing to help someone in need.
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>>243838756
What about their names?
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>Be old man Vlad the vampire shogun
>benched him at lvl 34 sometime ago around 4th or 5th dungeon
>fast forward to the 9th dungeons
>team is around their 50s and subclassed
>remember about old man Vlad
>dig him out from his cute decorated coffin that his niece did for him
>still lvl 34
>give him a gunner subclass because reasons
>suddenly he is a charge shot, chasing warrior buffing gun wielding sword swinging vampire doing stupid damage from the back or sword fighting in the front
>old man vald shed a tear because be is being used again
>mfw i cranked my autism to 11 with this post
His niece is happy now.
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>>243838438
And because of that your flatress is dead.
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>>243838756
>No lmao2hero party
>No #BasedFarmer
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>>243838134
>ninja, harbinger

....Nightseeker? Also ninja isn't really an 'attacker' class, their damage is piss poor. You use one for ailment or item support.

gunner is also a safe choice
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>>243838632
Wait, so harbinger can really work as another half-assed attacker? Then maybe I could go for more support instead!
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>>243838756
>le epic """balance""" team of proc/medi/magic user and hero
And this is why we have so many shitters
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>>243839164
to be fair I thought it would be pretty fun/funny to bring a farmer for my party but it was pretty miserable till master rank
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>>243839118
>suddenly he is a charge shot, chasing warrior buffing gun wielding sword swinging vampire doing stupid damage from the back or sword fighting in the front
I'm sorry for saying this, but that sounds like Bloodborne
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Why can't the Monster Compendium also jot down what floor monsters are on?
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>>243839454
so master rank mappers can draw where they saw shit
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>>243839316
>it was miserable to keep everyone at full hp and tp while exploring and having the best weapon skills early game
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>>243839298
Anyone RPG vet would know to make a balanced party. Of course not everyone is a GameFAQs fags such as you who looks up all the coolest more broken shit to abuse to get by. Someone who plays on Normal + Blind has more respect from me than you who plays Heroic but spent months looking up all the most broken shit from X when it was out in JP. Fuck off.
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>>243839679
Nah, I have a good memory
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>>243839895
t. picnigger ffbabby
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>>243839517
I've been playing EO4 recently with a nightseeker, so I'd like to avoid that even if it does sound like the most sensible option.

I know ninja isn't good at damage, that's why I was focused on getting another attacker to compliment that ronin. I guess I could go with gunner as I originally intended, but that sounds less fun than other options.
I could manage in EO5 with a party that barely featured any elemental damage at all, but I'm not sure if that will fly in EON. If it doesn't, gunner it is.
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>>243839241
I'm starting to contemplate my reasons of having a ninja on my team. Probably gonna sub my seeker with ninja instead of hero, but that hero fire skill is crazy. But ninja is pretty
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tfw when you get the vamp item but like your party's force breaks too much
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>use a gathering point as a heal spot so I can keep exploring
>double crop activates
>have to go back anyways since the entire inventory is full now
a blessing and a curse
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For like a farming team should i go 5 full farmers or some survivalists in the mix?
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>>243836045
Do you have all 19 classes recruited?
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>>243839410
Well shit. Didn't even think of that.
>>243839454
>he doesn't use the notes on some unused corner to add the names of monsters in their maps
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>>243840214
I do, although one of them has a different portrait because it's a scrapped party member.
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>>243839708
They have the worst weapon skills ealygame because of their STR. And their exploring skills are rubbish except the master rank tp song.
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>>243839895
I didn't knew that my team of pug/farmer/sov/shogun/shark was a broken buzzword buzz buzz
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>>243838756
Look at this dude
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>>243839161
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>>243840340
did you go back to title screen?
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>>243840064
B A S E D
but even with Survivalist sub?
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>>243838756
>Atlus having Twitter normalfags make the party composition for Untold X
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>>243840423
>1 girl and 4 boys
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>>243840371
Uhhh sweaty, that is wrong. Flame Rush is amazing, Fossil Scythe gives a party wide defense buff, Silver Thrust and Leaping Rush are both extremely potent, and Farmer's luck makes the Arm Bind Scythe, Head Bind Gun, and Panic Dagger all proc constantly.
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>>243840506
even with a survivalist main
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>Northern Shrine
I'm over these fucking ladder gimmicks
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>>243840805
ladders are tools, anon. it's utility.
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If Nexus was built around improved EOV mechanics it would've been the best game in series.
Excluding union skills unless they revamped them somehow.
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>>243840423
I just now noticed Gunner-chan has Jack Frost on her hat
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>>243840805
Don't worry anon only 10 more floors to go
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>>243810321
>Spark Blade
>initial hit does okay damage
>game pauses dramatically
>enemy party explodes into a thunderous conflagration
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I'm going to max out sneak attack and none of you can stop me.
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>>243840805
Don't be, anon, they're actually just stepladders.
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>>243840438
Yes, but I got it working now that I rebooted my 3DS.
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>reach level 20
>Hero starts doing like 500 lighting damage in aoe
>Nightseeker deals niggerillion with one point in Shadow Bite already
>Gunner starts nuking shit every 2 turns
Jesus fucking christ
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>>243810912
>>243811281
>full heal and a save point
>too much

???

The way it's set up, it's almost like the Berserker King fight didn't even happen.
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Are there shortcuts/chests that only farmers can find with that skill or something?
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>>243840863
If Nexus brought back the good classes and stratums then it would've been the best game in the series
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>>243840863
V was a disgrace to the series. There are five EO cliques. Contrarians who think the best is II, Weirdos who think the best is I, Plebs who think the best is IV, Patricians who think the best is III, and retards who think the best is V.
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>>243841193
there's a couple unmarked shortcuts but you can find everything by just not being dumb
and there's a ring with the same skill anyways
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>>243841167
Imagine if Fafnir was in this game.
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Why did they pick the fucking jungle over Auburn Thicket FUCK
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>>243841167
>using Hero
>using NS
>using Gunner
Whats the rest of your party? Sov/Harb? Sov/Prot? Copy pasted party straight off of GameFAQs.
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>>243841043
I absolutely love that it was specifically designed to fuck with all those "hard to kill physically" enemies and you reach it just in time to use it against third stratum foes.
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>>243841296
>no argument
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>>243841436
b a t s
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>>243841382
Oh alright
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Someone give me a dumb party for the EOX superboss and I'll try beating it with that.
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>>243841436
Because flame demon is big gay
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>>243841475
>Being a hipster that bases his party on other people's opinions
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>>243841475
Like cuckwork.. the meme machine type
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>>243841607
Kill it with Shot Command
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Why is GameFAQs getting so much recognition in these threads? The site is archaic as fuck and has long run its course. Nobody uses it anymore.
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>>243841410
I miss no more gays.
Wish they made him a secret unlockable class by tying the game to EO2U and making him some sort of a superboss.
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>>243841796
it's a handful of /v/isitors trying to force a meme
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>>243841796
It's one autistic faggot who's extremely asshurt that people use the skill sim
Probably a fatlus USA employee
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Got a question about B3F of the 4th lab in Nexus

Did I miss something or am I actually supposed to run all the way around to get to the end every time?
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>>243841410
NO MORE GAMES
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>>243841410
With or without shit like Extend and Accelerate? Because once you get over the initial hype you realize his base class is ass being carried by a good force boost
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>>243841960
you probably missed a shortcut
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>>243841960
You missed something
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>>243841796
What do people use now for vidya advice?
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>>243841960
Use a scope, mark down the shortcuts
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>>243841960
guess an image might help explain what I mean.. I could've sworn I checked everything though
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>>243841960
Theres a shortcut to the east of the door to the room before the boss
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>>243842209
You missed a whole lot boy
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>>243842209
you missed an entire formaldehyde, go back
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>>243841796
>GameFAQs is archaic
Then why is it at the top of every google search for every game question in existence?
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>>243842137
Either Reddit or Discord. Specialized sites if the game is big enough or has a devoted fanbase.
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>>243842378
thanks, i hate it
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>>243841296
Gee, I wonder what anon's favorite EO is.
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>>243842468
Yes, that is a very reddit-like meme, good job
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What's the optimal level and strategy for Golem? I did killed wyvern and explored first floor of next stratum but when Bounding Beast showed up in workd map, it killed each of my girls in one hit so.Im worried.
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>>243842520
I bet it's mystery dungeon 2!
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>>243841296
>EO3U never ever
It hurts...
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>>243842068
With.
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how do i make a ninja do damages
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>>243842468
>intothelabyrinth hasn't been updated since 2014
This makes me a little sad.

>>243842571
Golem itself is level 25 so take that as you will. Optimal strategy is to be very fucking careful with elemental attacks.

Not 100% sure on this but I think Reflection has a two or three turn cooldown. Never saw it used twice in a row.
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>>243841638
No more gays.
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>>243842880
tagen [B]attou
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anyone want to explain why boiling lizard has 6 gorrilion hp
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>>243841796
GameFAQs might have some stupid forums (not a surprise, nowadays forums in general are absolute shit) but the FAQs section has always been top notch.

>>243842378
Nigga are you serious? Because you actually made me reply.
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>>243842895
He can spam it, one of my wipe attempts i was just spamming whatever and he used it like 4 turns in a row
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>>243842378
>Specialized sites if the game is big enough or has a devoted fanbase.
In EO's case that "specialized site" would be GameFAQs, since everything else you listed is cancer incarnate.
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>>243841296
I couldn't get into V for some reason. The whole game, I kept wondering when the fun part was, but I just never started feeling it.

It's weird, because there were a number of things I liked about V. I just couldn't get into it for some reason, less so than any other game in the series. I can't even explain why I'm enjoying Nexus more.
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>>243843013
because you didn't turn on the AC
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>>243843096
Autism
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>>243842378
oh my god
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>>243842895
>Never saw it used twice in a row.

He activated Reflection every single turn I used Frigid Slash.

>use Frigid Slash
>Reflection
>Hero dies
>Reflection again next turn while I revive Hero
>use Frigid Slash again
>Reflection
>rinse and repeat like 4 times

I actually thought he had a cooldown after using it two times in a row, but apparently he'll prioritize countering elemental attacks.
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>>243843013
If it's like EO4, you need to do the dungeon gimmick to weaken him with the cold.
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>>243843096
i'm sort of the same, i don't like hate V or anything, and i still play it, but i just feel different while playing it compared to the other games, i guess thats the best way i can describe it.
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>>243843137
>>243843232
thank
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>>243843096
Same feeling. I've made more progress in Nexus in three days than what I did in V in a whole year. I might go back, stopped at the third floor of Fetid Necropolis, but Nexus is infinitely more fun.
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>>243843162
Naw lad, I finished the game. I just couldn't get into it. By the time I got to killing the Star Muncher on Expert, I just wanted it to be over.
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>>243843096
>>243843232
>>243843409
What the hell? I thought I was the only one who stopped midway with V
I did decide to finish it after I'm done with N, I can't let games hang over me like that.
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>>243842571
>>243842895
>>243843229
I just used Spark Blade, Venom Throw, and Shadow Bite. When he did Reflection, it didn't work on those, so I had my other team members fluff my Hero and Nightseeker so they wouldn't die to counters.
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>>243843409
Why is that potato angry?
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>>243843567
You still have autism because you have no argument as to why it's bad, you just 'feel' it
The fact this meme only exists in this thread and nowhere else is all the more telling
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"I'm just mad because Harpuia is easy, but then Bloodbath glitches out and my party gets wiped and there's nothing I can do about it. It's completely fucking ridiculous."

>I'm losing so it must be the game fucking up instead of my own fault
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>>243843926
But I didn't say it was bad. I said I didn't enjoy it.
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>>243843659
There was "something" that didn't make me return. Maybe it was the slow skill progression or the FOE puzzles. Wasn't the music, it was beautiful. I think it was a mix between slow skill progression and every fight being cheese with Zombie Powder, do actual effort with Pug and Masurao, or perish because too much AoE so soon.

I actually told myself that I should finish it before Nexus was out but I just couldn't find the drive to do it, meanwhile I've been playing Nexus daily and having mad fun with it.
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>>243843024
>Nigga are you serious?
I know people love to shit on Reddit and Discord here but as long as you avoid the bullshit there are a lot of good subreddits/servers. Where else are you going to go?

GameFAQs was killed by YouTube and the rise of video guides, official forums are almost always policed too strictly, wikis are extremely hit or miss, 4chan's limited threads mean only the most active communities stay alive, etc.

If you want information on old games then sure, GameFAQs is great for that. Anything recent - especially if it's an online game - will likely have a discord server with a channel devoted to pool of information(similar to the information dumps you see in OPs here.)
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>>243843096
V is the retarded child of EO. I dont know what they were thinking. The first game aged poorly but it was a decent foundation that was improved in II and then turned into somethiny great in III. Then Atlus decided that they wanted to make EO more accessible so they added in more tradional RPG elements and made something different but still fun. In V they completely screwed the pooch. They tried to do way too much and ended up with a game that doesnt really have a stable identity and really suffers because of it. It's symbolic that it is set on Mars because the game IS alien.
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>>243843007
Explain
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Advice for Golem?
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5 is my favourite game, debate me
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>>243843747
She's waiting for the rest of them to hurry up.
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>>243844130
Nice source faggot
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>>243844332
He isn't immune to instant death like every other boss so if you get him low enough Ronin's Issen gets a 999% chance to instantly kill.
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How viable is Ninja tanking in Nexus? I remember in 3 the clones had a pretty good taunt rate but unsure if they kept it that way.
Also does their proficiency skill let them do full damage with melee skills as well as just regular attacks?
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>>243844429
I'm lurking the discord because the posts retards make there are funny as fuck
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Does anyone else feel real bad putting points into Prevent Order since its not 100% chance anyway?
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>>243844173
Id say Gamefaqs lost relevance mainly because the type of games that need guides just aren't popular anymore. That era of JRPGs is long gone.
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>>243843747
Potato wants to keep exploring but the view game too good.

>>243844173
I don't even want to imagine trying to discuss Etrian Odyssey in Reddit for the single fact they get triggered to hell and back about lolis and ban every single discussion that might include one, even when it's proven some are not like Dancer, for example. Considering that the Fire Emblem subreddit apparently bans in an instant the sole mention of Nowi doesn't give me a good vibe about that shithole. As bad as 4chan has become, I rather stay in these boards where I can actually discuss freely without having a powerhungry (and most surely underage) mod breathing behind my back.
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>>243844162
The classes and portraits were great, it feels like they spent a lot of time on them, all the staple classes like tank, medic, swordgirl had something new that the earlier iterations didn't, and the new classes felt varied and powerful in their own way. I just don't know man.
Though, I don't feel like I can criticize V yet, since I've not played it through.
>>243844346
Tell me why, just shortly is fine
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>>243844763
The worst part is that even though the buff doesn't disappear if it fails to block an ailment, it'll probably expire before a boss tries to use it again.
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>>243844217
Literally what are you talking about
5 cut out all the gimmick fluff that's been building up since 3 and gave a classic experience that actually caters to the design philosophy the series is supposed to be about. They actually put in the effort to make original enemies and classes instead of rehashing shit again as they always do
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>>243844816
>Fire Emblem subreddit apparently bans in an instant the sole mention of Nowi
I know reddit has a really weird attitude about drawn girls but that's just silly
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https://www.strawpoll.me/17413390

Do not be shy and do not lie.
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>>243845297
I think I should play them all before deciding something like that.
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>>243845297
>https://www.strawpoll.me/17413390
Why is this such a hard choice for me!?
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>>243845297
>already a vote for 4
/v/ needs to leave
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I guess if there's one thing that took me out of V, it's the lack of story.

Every other game tends to give you a little something to spur you forward. V just tells you to explore the Labyrinth because, and then only tells you why what you did was meaningful right before the 5th Stratum boss. I wanted to care about Arken, but I feel like I would have if I had seen her around more often than the middle of the fourth Stratum onwards.
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>>243845297
Wheres Mystery Dungeon
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>>243844884
5 has the best core gameplay and design in every single aspect, I appreciate that they didn't reuse any enemies and love almost all of the new ones, it has the best looking stratums overall and most of all I appreciate the fact that it cut down on the increasing story elements that has been creeping in since IV
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>>243845563
only 3 and 4 did that and 4 was shit
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>>243845297
3
My first EO, I used to play it on my phone till I got a 2DS XL.
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>>243845297
Only good thing about EO3 is the music
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Is the Kings Rod with Cavalry Arrival worth using for my Shaman? My team doesn't have any revive skills outside of Union Skills but even at max level Cavalry Arrival's revive chance is only like 60%
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I would say that so far

III=I>V>Nexus>II>IV

Not counting untolds since I didn't play them.

Fite me.
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>>243845297
>vote for Nexus
I take it you haven't reached ladder hell yet
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>>243845297
>Etrian Odyssey IV: Attack on Titan

What.
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>>243845609
EOII had you gather more and more potent healing stuff for the duke.
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>>243840763
None of the luk ones are good since their infliction rate is mostly based on STR now. A few minor buffs is not enough to redeem farmer.
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>>243845771
your link isn't working
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>>243845297
>all those votes for III
Who are you guys trying to fool? Its an anonymous poll. No need to try so hard.
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>>243845767
Not really. Just revive Hygieia's Bowl in random encounters or items in boss fights. If more than one person is dead during exploration you already messed up.
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>>243845885
this
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>>243845771
IV > III > V > I > II

Withholding judgement on Nexus for obvious reasons.
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>>243845885
>best ost
>best difficulty
>best npcs
Come on, son.
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>>243843007
Bitchfag i asked you to explain
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>>243845778
Only done Southern Shrine so far, but going from 3 floor dungeons to 5 floors with the same gimmick did more to my fatigue than ladders themselves i think
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>>243846002
>best difficulty
lol
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>>243845771
>I tied with III
>IV last
>I dont play Untolds
Weak bait.
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>>243845885
What's worse is all the votes for 4
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>>243845297
>EO3 is winning
It was true back then and it's true right now
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>>243845297
I liked U2's story, fite me
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>>243846148
Fluffmaster needs to be a portrait in every game
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>>243845297
I've only played EOU, EO2U and EO5 so far. I'm going to have to pick up 3 next and see why it's the too cool for school choice.
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>>243845297
I guarantee all of those EOU2 votes are Arianna fags
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/eog/ just loves boats
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>>243845771
V>III>1U>N>2U>II>IV>I
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>>243846060
the power of multipliers
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>>243845609
>and 4 was shit

Hardly, both III and IV take their time in making you care about the characters you meet, with III having the whole split path mechanic while in IV you meet whole new races and people in each new map who end being important to the plot in general.
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KASANETA
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>>243846279
Confirmed for Vbab and never having played IV or Untold 2.
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>>243846275
i'll have you know i'm a flaviofag
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>>243846420
I've beat every superboss
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>>243846280
But how? Whats the build?
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>>243846352
We need more etrians like III where you choose different endings and kill your friends like in SMT
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>>243846352
What's that arrow pointing at?
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>>243845609
II had you gathering the Holy Grail and learning about the Overlord. Even I had a bit of a mystery about the Forest Folk and Visil becoming progressively shadier.

Also, shit talk IV in the forest to my face and see what happens.
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>>243846491
Oh, except for warped saviour because I was really bored of 4 by that point and was not bothered to grind to 99
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>>243846583
Heeee~
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>>243845297
I feel like I'm not allowed to choose 4 for some reason
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>>243846352
I couldn't care less about the characters in 4. They felt stupid, and their plot was generic at best.
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>>243846517
drawing slice + a bunch of ronin passives
if you're running a 5 party don't bother it's just a meme build
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>>243846278
I liked the airship in IV. Change my mind.
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So after taking into consideration what I was told yesterday about my party, I have 3 parties that I cant decide between. Only real goal is I really like Landsknekt(only one who looks like a adventurer) so I must use one.

Landskneckt/Shogun/Harbinger
Survivalist/Arcanist
or
Landskneckt/Ronin
Gunner/Ninja/Arcanist
or
Landsknekt/War Magus/Highlander
Ninja/Gunner

I have another file using Hero, Protector and Sovereign so im trying not to use them here.
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>>243844884
Not him but it's my 2nd favorite. Awesome class and dungeon design, reminiscent of III's classes, but with mostly good skills instead of mostly shitty ones. The mechanic changes (such as petrify, the summon row, int/wis split, item/weapon skills being good, etc.) are subtle but give the player a lot more control over their party than before. Legendary names offer significantly more meaningful customization options than subclasses and grimoires, which amounted to nothing other than "Hurr stack passives for maximum damage" and never significantly changed the way classes developed. I had fun with all the classes in that game, which is something I can't say about any other EO game to date, although I haven't gone through all of them in Nexus.

>>243846279
best taste so far
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>>243846706
You should feel bad for liking 4
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>>243846812
That's just a skyboat. You still just like boats.
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>>243846536
The only thing the split endings did was making me hate Gutrune and the Deep Sea King, especially Gutrune and that old lady who treat you as dirt regardless of the path you choose. Even worse when they decide to fuck off in the true ending instead of staying and fixing their fuck ups.
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>>243846812
It's the same thing as a dungeon floor, except with no walls or gimmicks and very few F.O.E puzzles, and you couldn't map it properly without stepping on every tile
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>>243846812
Reminded me of Skies of Arcadia, and that's one of my favourite jrpgs ever
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>>243846807
The damage numbers are like an extra layer of spoiler tags. Whew!!
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>>243846876
Last one since it's the only one with a hard healer.
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Come to think of it, maybe V didn't have the 3 dragons nor teach and gang because it was on Mars.
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>>243846737
>and their plot was generic at best.

You could say exactly the same about every single Etrian Odyssey. The plot is just an excuse to drive the explorers into exploring the labyrinth, your party just happens to be the best and end getting involved in shit bigger than themselves. Hell, other than the plot twist from EOI, that game is the most generic one in terms of story.
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>>243845992

IV cant be first, its utter shit that failed to do single aspect right.

And just 3 floors per stratum.

>>243846115
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Why aren't skill up stat increases built into the game?
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how do I use napier's trap
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>>243846997
Sea King was a bro, at no point in the game does he ever lie to you unlike the Armoroad cunts who do it constantly throughout the game. III really needed an ending where you kill everyone though, they were all pretty much asking for it.
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>>243847305
you don't do the stupid thing of painting off dead ends without stepping into them first
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>>243847251
>dude eo4 had a good plot
>no it didn't
>lol who cares about plot in eo
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>>243847372
>join the Cthulhu aliens Ending
>unlock the Deep Ones job
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>>243847405
Oh, it's an event. I thought you had to battle the tanuki monster and something would happen from there.
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>>243846948
>
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>>243847405
That's a bad habit I gotta kick, but those ladder parts are just begging to be pre-filled since I can see fucking everything for miles.
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>>243847435
Are you stupid or do you only lack reading comprehension? Nowhere I said I didn't care about the plot, I only said it's an excuse to explore.
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>>243847372
There is no greater sin in life than betraying your own race.
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>>243847305
Finding the right event tile.
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>>243845297
I'm really growing to like Nexus due to it having all the battle themes in it and callbacks from the older dungeons.

I'm also a huge sucker for Imperial, so it gives me a reason to not vote for IV
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How should I improve the header for this? The saving build stuff looks kinda ugly.
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>>243847372
Well, he used your party to get rid of the deep ones, while not telling you at first. Your actions were first based on trying to make up for breaking your promise to Olympia.
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>>243847960
You could make little buttons for them or something instead of a dropdown. But would that clutter it too much? Dunno, you're the boss.
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>>243847960
I dunno but I have some news
Double Punch works for every Fist skill with an ailment, including weapon skills, and I have a hunch that Clear Stance works the same for Katana skills. That's much harder to test but I believe the game checks the weapon type rather than the exact skill being used. It's worth trying
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>>243847607
Yes, I am implying you should feel bad for liking 4
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at the very least, I like IV's character design the most
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>>243848308
Well now I'm not going to
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>>243848473
almost all of the males are garbage
I blame 4 for the shitty meme of having all female parties
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>>243848594
i mean it seems like you just like to project all your problems onto 4
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>>243848114
Don't really get what you mean by that.
>>243848229
I'll check it out. It'd make sense if it does since Gunner Force Boost works for Gun weapon skills.
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>>243848668
Cope
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>>243848473
why is she blushing?
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>>243848594
male medic 2 is goat though
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Can someone who's played every game in the series and likes 4 the most explain why? I really can't see it. I honestly would rather play 2 again than 4.
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>>243848876
I told her I love her and it just so happens she loves me back
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>>243846876
first one is solid and the Landskneckt will be the hero of the party, Gunner is better than survivalist but just burself
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Serious question what class even wants to be a vamp?
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>>243849185
What does vamp even provide?
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>>243848473
My friend chose the vanilla party but choose all the shitty portraits like hoodie landshark and bowl cut fortress
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>level 75
>need 40 more skill points to finish protector
>Lands and Ronin have everything relevant maxed already
130 was too much.
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>>243848942
accessibility? I imagine it's a lot like the people who like fire emblem awakening - it's easy to get into, has modern QoL features, and because class building is basically impossible to fuck up it doesn't get frustrating.
also thirty six bosses
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>>243847912
>EO3U battle theme starts playing

It hurts...
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>>243848942
best classes
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>>243849185
Any that doesn't rely completely on their force.
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>>243849334
Yeah but that's not something that would make you think it's the best if you bothered to play every game in the series, it's something that would make you think it's the best if it was the only game where you didn't quit half way through.
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>>243849506
it's a game for game journalists!
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>>243849454
But 5 had the most interesting classes though. 4 just had straightforward strong things.
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>>243849648
>5 had the most interesting classes
>none of them made it into Nexus
Thanks, Fatlus.
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>just killed a golden FOE in southern shrine for 32k exp
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>Giant's Ruins
>encounter rate is 500%
>FOEs spam party wide instant death
>Boss spams insta-kill counter

Was this the trade-off for the full heal and save point in Lush Woodlands?
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>>243849739
>none
Pugilist
Harbinger

Nerfed doesn't mean they aren't there
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>Rebel Wolf
>8 fireballs TPKing me turn one
there are the fair and balanced FOEs I know
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>>243849967
is her name Eddie or Napier?
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>>243849967
They should have given us older Wynne instead of this jew
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>>243850148
just dodge bro
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>>243850129
He's saying that Pug and Harb aren't interesting
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>>243850148
this is pretty normal later, need to sub zodiac or protector
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>>243848942
I can't say I like 4 the most, but it does tend to be the one I replay the most. Because if I put down one of the others for too long I have to come back and figure out what the fuck I was doing with my party, whereas it's extra easy to stop and start 4 on a whim.
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>>243850238
Punching with god tier strength was interesting.
Seeing how broken it could get.
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>Wrath Bloom proceeds to kill my whole party in two turns with AoE electric attack
>too fast to even try to heal

So I either kill the Tanuki first and it shocks me to death, or I kill the bloom and the Tanuki transforms. Fun stuff.
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>>243850209
>cake Wynne
My dick
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>>243850148
>Rebel Wolf
>MISSMISSMISSMISSMISSMISSMISSMISS
Nerve-wracking but fun. Don't let that fucker bind you.
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>>243849453
>The arranged Hoist the Sword and Pride in the Heart that turns it into Neoclassical metal
>That newly added baroque chord progression part with the solo near the end of the loop
So fucking good, makes me kind of sad we won't see EO3U
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>>243847960
>We Are Finally Cowboys
nice
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This general is fun. Makes me wish I was around when when the other games were released.
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>>243850558
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>keep failing FOE puzzles and just murdering my way through them
I don't want to become over-leveled but I also don't want to be a pussy
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>>243849185
Prot if you value 3 turns of deathless Line Shielding

You could make the case for War Magus Just to have party revive available

If Highlander’s Force Boost wasn’t so busted it’d be good on them for Enablinng Spear Reversal but why bother when you can just spam Legion Charge instead.
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What's the best team it doesn't have a Hero?
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>>243850386
What is the followup to this
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>>243850209
Wynne is like 12 in IV and Nexus is set 1 year after IV so she would have looked the same.
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>>243850827
Prot/Ninja infinite tank works plus anything else
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>>243850735
That's just the same Wynne but disgusting proportions
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>>243850827
>>243850827
Protector Princess
Gunner Gunner Gunner

Landshark Highlander Survivalist
Princess Harbinger
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>>243851001
Beggars can't be choosers.
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>>243850749
>Too stupid to figure out FOE puzzles
You aren't going to finish the game then, trying to force your way through later FOE puzzles will game over you even at 130r130 with ultimate armor. the FOEs become harder than full strength Warped Savior, and the superboss is harder than all previous superbosses at once
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>>243851137
I guess.
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>>243850160
Napier. Edie was the name she went by back when you were too poor to know her real name. Now that you bought a 3DS, 4, 5, 1U, and 2U, she's willing to tell you that it was the name on the door the whole time.

That'll be 5000en.
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>>243851157
>FOEs stronger than super bosses
Thats bullshit
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>people asking why they didnt make EO3U
You can't improve perfection.
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>>243851350
It's more of an HP bloat thing. They're much more simple mechanically, you do a shitload more damage in these games, and some of them are just weak to everything so it's not as bad as it sounds.
But fuck those chickens take like thirty minutes to kill a piece.
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>>243850160
>double d
her name only had one d, thank you very much
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Do people actually find Jewish women like Napier attractive? Like come on.
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>>243851491
But I want to see the full portrait like the newer games, not the gay little rectangle
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>>243851491
>that class balance
>perfection
DAHAHAHA
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>>243810458
I've yet to try Nexus, but if they're the same from EO3, I'm gonna use one. I had an amazing farmer back then thanks to Earth Bounty, Rotten Egg and Strange Seeds. Exploration was made a lot easier thanks to Slap Awake, his Tent skill (I don't remember the name) and the combination with the party's Princess with Monarch March. Eventually, I shipped them together at the end of the game.
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>>243851532
The only D in Napier is mine
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>>243851532
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql_trScVsFY
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>>243851561
Napier fills all my checkboxes, I can't help it
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>>243851641
>Peasant with a Noble
L-lewd.
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Anyone here have any luck finding this game on retail? I swear Fatlus decided not to ship this game to any retailers.
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>>243851690
Dork.
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>>243851721
I got a copy day one, but they only had four copies in the first place.
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>people having trouble with non blindside encounters 5th labyrinth and below
Let me guess you built your party around single target unga bunga and can't explore properly
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>>243847960
It looks perfectly functional to me, but if you want some ideas
>Put the vamp toggle over with the rest of the fields instead of tucking it away by the title logo
>Add a "Clear" button for clearing all the assigned points
>Maybe add a "Delete Save" option? Doesn't really seem needed since you can just overwrite saves
>Divide the main area into colored blocks for the skill tiers. Scoot the skills down so you have enough room at the top to write "Novice/Veteran/Master"
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>>243850129
I prefer eox harbinger
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>>243851721
>>243851848
When I went to retrieve my copy, I saw they only had two of them in.
One of them was mine.
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>>243851690
Et, Etria, n Etrian Odyssey a best.
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>>243847960
>Reina
>/u/
Cute lesbian! CUTE!!
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>>243850160
I just played EO3 again and they never mentioned her name. I don't know where the fuck did Edie come from.
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>>243852001
There was a time when I thought girls didn't like anime tiddies, but then I met one of those in real life.
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>>243852124
Wasn't it mentioned in a US artbook or something? Anyway, it's not canon.
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>>243851978
Those stratums, though.

>The Cul-de-Sac
>Construction Site
>The Creek
>Trailer Park
>Junkyard
>The Factory
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>>243851721
Found none at Best Buy. Gamestop had some day 1 but not displayed.
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>>243851721
Isn't Amazon US selling it?
I saw it last night with the bonus.
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>>243851561
>he doesn't want to be financially bullied by Napier
>he doesn't want to get frustrated by and hatefuck Napier
>he doesn't want to regret his life decisions when he finds out that now he owes child support to Napier
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>>243852724
Retail, nigger.
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I did not expect to be able to have made it to the fourth labyrinth with just Ninjas, but here I am. Jesus Christ.
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>>243852334
How do you beat the Kanker FOEs? I'm stuck on Lee.
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>>243851721
Got it in NYC with ease, but I'd say usually the little local stores outside the city only stock a few copies at a time.
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How do I get the dragons to respawn?
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>>243852771
My subhuman seed in that Jew g-ddess? I'd happily be in life debt for that
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>>243852896
Believe it or not she's exceptionally vulnerable to Blind.
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>>243852871
You are my favorite now.
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>>243852871
>Galford and Poppy
Absolutely based
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>>243852724
Yeah, but I’m not 100% ready to pay an extra 8 bucks on shipping and needing to wait another 5 days if I can avoid it
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>>243852909
I think it's some combination of 14 days and x amount of steps taken in the labyrinth, since they're overworld monsters. Set up an autopath in fenrir's lair and let that run for a bit.
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>>243852905
I was in midtown and lower Manhattan for most of the day. No luck.
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Ok someone help me I can't beat the Hollow Queen in IV. My party is level 31-32, am I underleveled or something? I get her two half bar HP but she always ends up killing me with Dimensional Cut which one shots my party and even if kill the other Hollows she just respawns them the next fucking turn. What do I do?
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>>243850160
I can't find any mention of her name being Edie on any JP sites.
Though there seems to be a divide on whether her flat chest or her sister's big breasts are better.
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>>243853402
is this pasta
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>soldiers offering soups underwater

nice bs
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>>243841796
it has a ton of good discussion for EO.
I don't even know how this can be debated.



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