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Devblog SOON edition

Previous thread: >>243570412

>Official Site:
https://warthunder.com/
NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
https://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeb pedophilia and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammo racks and how many shells you should take out
https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Ammo_Racks

>Ammunition Types
https://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Px6G3kvcWbiS-sdIR6r4s7lSwfcxguUgJw95qj0NIzs/

>Dank Bants to Spam in Chat for Salt

Кpым пpинaдлeжит Укpaинe
>Crimea belongs to Ukraine

南京没有被强奸
>Nanking was not raped

Poccия - кpyпнeйший в миpe мycop
>Russia - The world's largest trash can

中国人不是人 他们是动物
>Chinese people are not people they are animals

8 de julho de 2014 7:1 massacre da copa do mundo
>July 8th World Cup massacre

六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre
反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward

https://pastebin.com/w3Wc9WRt

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This game sucks
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>teammates are all camping an area with no enemies
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>>243762317
>teammates go to the opposite side of the map that the only cap is on
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>>243762747
>teammates rush to spawn camp
>ignore all 3 caps
>call them out
>they appologise and go cap points
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>>243764094

>Things that never happened.jpg
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about to unlock the first Sherman, what am I in for
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>>243765392
Pretty decent gun, pretty decent armor, pretty decent mobility, it's an all around pretty okay tank.
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>>243765392
okay tank that lacks any form of fun
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>>243765392
I hear it's a broken memebunker with a gauss cannon on it, so have fun
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>why isn't anyone else capping the fucking points
>check scoreboard
>everyone else on team is dead with a max score of 1k
oh boy its one of these games again
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>>243767780
Why is everyone who plays this game so fucking bad? I've never had the feeling of "Oh, our team got outplayed and that's why we lost." It's always "We lost because our team was more retarded than the enemy's."
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>>243765392
being snack for Panzer IV and T-34s
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One actually good, pro-player thing Gaijin did was adding universal backups, it's super easy to get a lot of them just from playing the game and spending those little ticket things.
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>>243767929
Big rp gains for being the last 5 people on your team 1 minute into the game since everyone is ass at this game
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>gunner turns yellow
>electric turret turns into hand-cranked instantly
fucking slav(e)s
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Have any of you ever used this spot before? It's so extremely niggery, very easy 5-8 kills until you get killed by an atgm
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>>243769534
no, i restart my gameclient when that niggermap comes up and skip it
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IFW
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>vietnam
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>>243770343
>J out and pick other nation
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>>243768595
>Backups
People actually play arcade?

Lol.
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>uptiered in my jumbo
ugh, *holds j*
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>*leaves 90% of all matches*
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>small eastern europe at high tier
okay now this is an epic J
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Reminder to always play T1 tanks and be as cancerous as possible, the more new players you make quit, the faster this game can die.
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>>243772056
B A S E D
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>>243772056
Genuine low tier clubbing list:
That list you posted
2.7 america with the M8a1 and 105
>Planes
Yak1
109F-1
P-51a
F4u-1a
XP-38g
All of these will easily net you enough kills in one match to put you on top of the board and get you enough fanmail to set you for life
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>>243772056
nice idea
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>>243772473
When I do this I've noticed the only thing that can stop you is if there's a 4 man squad of seal clubbers on the other team, it's fucking hilarious.
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are the ejected casings also visible for other players around you?
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>>243775135
if even transonic vapor cones aren't, then probably not
too taxing on misha's computer ))))))
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>>243761030
Guys they reduced the repair cost on the Tu-4
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you know you had a bad team when you get first in a SPAA
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Just got Stug of long reloads aka 75mm howizer

What am I in for?
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>>243775819
>What am I in for?
Suffering
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>>243775335
well that's a fucking shame, casing ejection is so fucking hot
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>>243770262
Locking up real bad. Good in rbgf tho.
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>Boomerang sits behind my stuka and I destroy his engine
>screeches at me in PM
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Phlydaily is /our guy/
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>>243780414
>funny
>charismatic
>good at the game
>calls gaijin out on their bullshit when appropriate
he's honestly my favorite wt youtuber
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>>243780697
>t. phly
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>>243780727
okay spicbee
whatever you say spicbee
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>>243780697
>>243780414
ok peter
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>>243780414
this desu
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>>243780697
his "humor" is pretty cringe and i used to hate him when he was in his spamming deathstar heavy bomber phase but he's legitimately gotten pretty good at the game now and knows what the fuck he's doing.

Watching him improve over the years has been pretty entertaining and at the very least hes not as unbearably retarded as magz.
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>>243778241
>66 rounds for 37mm
>66 ROUNDS
>plenty of options for CAS
>flies better in every way than the ducks
>even have back gunner
Damn. Real shame it sits at rank 2 instead of 3
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>>243761882
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How well would a tank like the Otomatic work IRL if you were to turn it from an SPAA into more of an infantry support vehicle? you could rapid fire HE to suppress infantry and also have sabot just in case you ran into trouble.
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>>243781662
if it worked, they wud use it

take a hint
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>>243781662
not as good as an actual IFV, one 76mm cannon is not as good as an autocannon + atgms
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>>243776656
Ive wanted all the open tank destroyers and stuff that shows the cannon to show ejections for so long. But then theyll need to animate the crews and that would effect the standing hitbox locations. lotta work for every vehicle.
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>tfw downing some super shitter with a fox 2 at 300 meters
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>italian aphe
holy fuck this is a better meme than russians
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>>243784590
Dude must've been blind, the only way i can semi-consistently get kills with AAMs is firing at sub-100m, bonus points if they're going supersonic, controls stiffen way too hard at that speed to be able to dodge.
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>1v10
>enemies gloat when I die
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>>243785329
dunked on
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>>243776351
how come?
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>>243780414
Memes aside I can't hate the guy, he seems genuine and would probably just be fun to be around.
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>>243782372
in its defence, it was a gun based SPAA that came out at the dawn of heavy SAMs use
good vehicle, bad timing, that's why nobody used it(apart from the gun it's built around, everyone and their mother use it on their ships)
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What is the country that has made the fastest and strongest tanks and planes in the world since 1941?
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>>243787889
italy
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>>243786178
It's been over a year since i played it and it was 0.7 br higher but my experience was overall very negative. You literally couldn't even kill most of the tanks in test drive even if you positioned yourself directly behind them at point blank.

Mabye it's improved a bit since then i wouldn't actually know, but even if it got buffed to shit since then i don't see what it can do that you can't already do in the normal StuGs other than take 3 times longer to reload.
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>>243787889
Argentina
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>>243787889
Sweden
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>>243788650
Cringe
>>243788175
Based
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>>243782495
BMPT FUCKING WHEN?!?!
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>>243789004
not soon enough, just like the fucking BMD line, which would make much more sense than BMPs
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>>243789004
>>243789337
Honestly guys, there's years of content for top tiers. It's just a matter of time. I imagine they are also going to introduce Tier VII once we get T-90/Leo 2A5/M1A1/Ariete/Chally 2/Type-10

What I'd like to see is some techtrees that start at Tier 5 - just like helicopters.
For example Israel(you need to unlock either T5 of US or Brits), Poointheloos (Russia or Brits), Poland (also Russia). East Germany(Russia or Germany).

They sky's the limit bros. We've only just stepped into modern warfare.
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>>243789912
WW1 when? you fucking ass
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>>243789912
>the sky is the limit
If by "sky" you mean Slavic (in)competence the yeah, dream on.
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>>243790154
ww1 tanks suck ass though

>>243790223
I mean just the amount of vehicles available to be put into the game.
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>>243789912
>sky is the limit
More like golden eagles lmao
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>>243789912
>Tier VII
>everything will be 500kRP and 2mil SL without the crew
yeah, the future sure is bright
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>>243790556
But Tier VI was only 10k more expensive than Tier V though??
Besides, they confirmed they are going to reduce earlier tiers in price when they add new tiers.
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>>243765392
Don't show your sides to enemy.
No better feel than smack a Sherman with a perfect 90 degree angle shot
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>>243772473
FW-190 A-4 perfect for higher tiers
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Haven't played tanks for more than a year, how is M10 Wolverine now?
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>>243790880
Same as always - great in competent hands, garbage if ou're bad.
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>>243790880
Get m36, its fun and it sits at 5.7
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>>243790880
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when ?
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>>243791602
what is it and why does it look like an autistic bastard offspring of Su-85 an kanonenjagdpanzer?
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>>243791602
What is that? A SU-100 made to look like a Kanonenjagdpanzer?
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>>243791721
this
>>243791716
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When?
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Please tell me that big dick P108 gets a bomber spawn and not an attacker spawn
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Why are German Jag/Stug vehicles so bad?
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>>243791716
>emany was so much raped that even tank raped each other
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>>243792783
I've got bad news for you .senpai
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>>243793584
don't worry, it would be shit anyway, just like the Ki-109
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>>243793765
I just dropped four shermans on El alamein but I had to wait a while for the allies to fuck off
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>unlock engine part on m113a1
>can actually reach 40kmh without much effort
having fun
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>be krautnigger
>have only 1 purpose
>make my way to enemy spawn and get killed by somebody with spawn protection
every single time
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>>243795570
nice objectiveplay bro
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>>243795624
its my 2nd spawn, in sidam. You helinigger
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>>243795570
I've recently lost a match on Kursk because retards in XM-1 were spawncamping enemies for 10 minutes instead of capping the points.
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>>243769534
no, i cap B and then scratch people out of the mountains in an FJ4B or viper
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>>243795760
ggez
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What is the best way to farm cash for an ultimate no prem nigger? Both planes and tanks, ranks II-IV.
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>>243799136
CAS with a premium plane
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>>243799136
IL2M avenger using thunderer wager and antimech order, German P-47.
That's what I use
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>>243799136
Be-6 or Ju288 in sim EC.
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Well I had some fun in the P108A, managed to kill 8 light pillboxes in a game. Obviously it's still just dead weight in general. What a shame
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So were they really giving premium vehicles for war bonds? All i see now is some shit like palm branches and player icons, I've collected almost 1000 war bonds now.
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Is there anything more satisfying in low ranks than oneshotting a KV-1 through frontal armor?
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>>243799479

still waiting for the day ships can be damaged by cannons. like half of the 30mm and up cannon equipped planes in game were designed to take out ships.
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>>243801317
I managed to kill just one of those heavy landing craft, then the AA started to tear me to shreds and a cobranigger twotapped me with the 37mm
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>>243801317
they can't? When i tried it i could kill the lower shit with 7mm MGs. Never made it to higher tiers where i would actually get something armed with larger cannons though
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>>243801734
He means the AI ships in Air RB. Destroyers and Cruisers are invulnerable, Cargo ships and Heavy Landing craft take slightly too much to kill, and small landing craft are bullshit and broken. The SLC used to be really easy to kill but Gaijin buffed them massively(or broke them) a few years ago for whatever reason.

You know, I seem to remember that you could damage the destroyers about 5 years ago by shooting at their bridge, but it doesn't work anymore and hasn't for a long time.
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https://discord.gg/gwcTW3Z
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>>243802450
okay vegeta
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>>243802863
okay triahx
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>>243802915
>>243802863
>>243802450
>>>/r/NAMBLA
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>>243791716
East-German SU-100 camouflaged as a West-German Kanonenjagdpanzer
>>243791721
Yes
>>243791602
Gaijin is shit and is refusing to give other nations USSR's fun vehicles so slavs don't need to deal with the cancer USSR slopes are so never
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>>243799842
you need over 3000 warbonds and 12 special task medals for a vehicle
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>>243806089
And it gets reset every month?
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>>243806719
Yes, but you keep your earned warbonds. It's the special tasks that you have to grind out from scratch.
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>>243806089
Don't forget you also need the store to reach a certain level by completing dailies and making sure to collect the reward, even if you're already full on warbonds because gaijin is fucking incompetent and has made it so that the store level won't just update automatically for every daily you complete, the stupid vodka-swilling krokodil-addicted monkeys before you can buy the premiums, even with all the special tasks done

>>243806719
Your special tasks and store level reset every month, but you get to keep your warbonds
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>>243807006
I already have like 5 or 6 medals. Honestlt I'm not even doing it for prems, performing tasks just gives me some purpose in the game.
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DEVBLOG WHEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>243799136

Any IL-2 with 23mm is pretty good for ground attack. only gun that can reliably crack light pillboxes without wasting a shitton of ammo. best use a convergence of 500-400 and Ground target belts. other than that italian bombers are relatively cheap to repair. generally just look for cheap to repair bombers and ground attackers. if you are lucky enough to spawn on a map with ships then cruisers and destroyers are pretty juicy targets, only takes 1x 500kg or 2x250kg to destroy them.

If you hae even less self respect just fly spitfires.
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>>243807527
Isn't the next patch mid March? It's too soon for them to write anything
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>>243808698
it's almost mid February, it's well due time
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Do you guys think this will change anything?
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/441802-why-gajins-approach-of-the-new-calculated-shell-performances-is-not-realistic/&
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>>243809776
>do you guys think [thing from forums] will change anything?
....
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>Flying the 163
>Get to fight things that outspeed the tiny fucking rocket
>They just have to point in one direction and go
>Can't really chase thanks to spending two of it's six minutes of fuel taking off and getting to the battle
This is not fun
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>>243808642
>If you have even less self respect just fly spitfires.
Lol
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https://www.zdnet.com/article/russia-to-disconnect-from-the-internet-as-part-of-a-planned-test/

Is this gonna bring down War Thunder?
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>>243807527
Tomorrow at the earliest, as it didn't arrive on friday
>>243808698
It's actually kinda late already compared to previous years so you can expect the devblog this week for sure
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https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/442468-server-update-11022019/
New update carrying the new armour pen values hit, can someone post the new values for the german 88 and 105 (Tiger) please? I know approximately what they are supposed to be like, but can't be sure with these people
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https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/933
>https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/933
https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/933
>https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/933
https://warthunder.com/en/game/changelog/current/933
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>>243811534
>Ha-Go Has been deleted from the main research tree

WTF niggers
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>The new calculation of armour penetration in the game for armour-piercing shells has been added.
>The new calculation of armour penetration in the game for armour-piercing shells has been added.
>The new calculation of armour penetration in the game for armour-piercing shells has been added.

HERE WE GO LADS
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>>243811534
>deleting tanks
DEFCON 1
DEFCON 1
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>crossing field heading into town
>see a name
>drift stug to the left
>sherman misses shot and bounces
>about to fire and kill him
>fucking rockets spam from his shitbox and kill me
fuck this garbage
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>>243811534
>H35 and FCM36
>H39 is now the reserve
>after suffering through those ww1 chode guns for what seemed like eternity for the H39
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Impressive
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>>243811861
>see a name
arkaden lol
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someone post the OTOMATIC APHE
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>>243811690
now that mai waffentrager is died her legacy is getting trampled on by gaijin and it is cleary gaijin is the source of the illness that buried mai i can only be thankful to god that she is not here to witness how all here hard work is getting destroyed by losers of tsushima battle (russians never forgot or forgave) and it was hard as it is to get japanese sensha in game but now look at the new values for japanese tanks they have gotten nerfed and it is disgraceful that cowards of gaijin waited until mai perished to do this because if she was still alive she would have fought them and she would have won but poor mai is not here anymore so it is up to us to defend the memory of her and tell gaijin we are here and we will not have our historical tanks mai produced evidence for removed from this game please guys every upvote helps lets get this to 100likes before further legacy of mai is destroyed!
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>>243812229
how does this affect anything at all?
>still shoot at barrel/breech
>still cant go tru ufp of t80 like it couldnt before
>still flies tru driver port of t80 like before
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patch themes
https://youtu.be/YXSzRRMfxhk
https://youtu.be/9pqAQ1hoQpY
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>>243811971
Is that Dicker Max or Tiger 105?
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>>243812185
Its exactly fucking same
apfds 311
aphe 60 mm
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>>243812142
>no fun allowed
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Post them rare premiums lads
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the R3 T20 AP rounds where 40mm pen before right?
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i'm a brainlet just tell me which nations got stronger and which got weaker from the path
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>>243812598
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I heard the T30 is getting APCR
Is that true?
Fucking when?
>>243812719
Take ))))))) a ))))))))) fucking))))))))))))))))) guess)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>243812719
Russia got stronger everyone else got nerfed
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>>243812719
pre-update calculations https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/441442-do-the-armor-pen-calculator-results-match-historical-records-for-various-ammo-types/
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>he grinded the APHE?
>nerf it
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HOLY FUCK THE I-GO KO ONLY HAS 21 MM OF FLAT PEN AT 10 METERS WHAT ARE YOU DOING GAIJIN
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is of problem tovarich? ))
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>>243812865
They also made the Ro-Go even worse somehow. 70mm has 20 mm of pen and 37mm has 31 mm of pen.
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>>243812438
only difference in practice i noticed is that type90 can no longer penetrate turret armor of challenger, it still flies through slav tanks at any range though
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njet problems here either ))
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>IS-7 got more pen
))))))))))))))))))))))))
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Imagine waking up every day and realizing you are Russian.
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>>243812521
why
just why can't gaijin not half ass anything they do
I'm not even mad anymore, just sad
>>243812709
yes, did they change it?
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The Puma must be the best low tier car
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how does this affect the Germans now that I am half way ground to the Tiger H1?
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>>243812865
>>243813000
HEAT comes standard rather than an unlock on the I-Go
The Ha-go wasn't even terrible, just too early of a tank design for warthunder, if Gaijin actually had brains they'd add more low tiers to keep it balanced.
I was honestly confused as to what the fuck the 70mm was, don't have the Ro-Go but I noticed the 70 and 75 both have 76mm of pen on the HEAT, I'm calling bullshit on that
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>>243813251
it's 52mm now
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>>243813308
not too much. aside from the tiger II 105 mm
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>mfw tiger 105 and jagdtiger stock shells
as if those things weren't pure suffering to use even without that
at least T29 will probably get banished to the HEATFS realm
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>>243813308
They got even worse
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>>243813308
For Tiger H1 and Panthers, not much, but for 128mm stuff like Jagdtiger and Maus along with 105mm on Tiger 105, you might be slightly worse now. Doesn't really matter anyway, stick under 7.0BR and you'll be fine
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Multi turret isn't an objectively bad idea, but implementation until post wwii had been terrible due to the restrictions of turret technology. The idea of a secondary turret for point defense and suppression is in no way flawed and with modern turretless technology much more effective.
An abrams with a standalone 25mm autocannon on top of it would be the ultimate tank able to engage multiple targets of varying importance separately
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>>243813417
oh, neat
time to murder mutts
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>>243813619
why not just put a machine gun on the roof controlled from the buttoned up crew aka pic related
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>IS-7 APHE now pens more than L7 APDS at 0° and 60°
BR adjustment patch won't come soon enough
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i quit...
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>Armor pen update is a complete joke
>Game's still an unplayable mess in most BRs
>Now even more so
Just shut the game down already
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>>243813881
That's what I'm talking about, but with a 25mm for high explosive saturation and extended range against lightly armed vehicles. The Abrams is fine for swatting sand niggers enmasse right now but if they ever actually got the money for proper IFVs/APCs they'd need to put more firepower on top.
I love the BMD-4's setup with the 30mm alongside the main gun, but that setup is designed for both guns to be aiming at the same target.
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>>243814004
they will change brs
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>>243814194
You mean compress them further because the game's bleeding players right?
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>>243813979
IS7 needs its rightful 7.7 BR, IS4 AND IS3 should drop by 0.3
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>>243813979
What BR adjustments? IS-7 will stay where it is and stock L7 APDS will still continue to be shit since "oh well you'll unlock HEAT-FS in 100 matches anyway!" and "oh yeah Leo A1A1 is fine since you get that APFSDS in 150 matches anyway"
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>somehow 85mm APBC pens the jumbo's front reliably from a further range despite losing penetration
great update)))
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>>243813979
You'll get your BR adjustments after we see how much we actually broke the game.
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>>243814498
>t. subhuman jumbonigger
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so how long till M4A1 76 and foierfloi get uptiered to 5.3 while frognigger shermans stay at 4.7
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>>243814661
I don't even use the jumbo because I know I'd just get clicked on by vodka rats
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>>243813649
pastachads just keep winning
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>>243807145
Don't worry, im in the same boat as you. The warbonds are a decently fun grind to do.
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>>243814398
>image literally stolen from reddit
>'ooff'
you should kill yourself on the first given opportunity
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>Waffentrager pens the frontal armor of the T-30 from 150m
Wow
That's a first
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So they're not fucking with planes anymore? After all these years I'm finally patient.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkZkekS8NQU
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>>243813619
t. armchair general that has never sat inside a tank in his life
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>T-62M-1 has a stock shell with 420 mm flat pen, at 9.0
>Chally Mk 2 has to grind for one with 410 mm flat pen, at 9.7

What the fuck is going on at Gaijin HQ?
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>>243815885
>looking at flat pen
based retard
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>>243815864
>Worrying about the inside of a tank
>When there is nothing functionally different on the inside of the tank
t. retard
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>>243816059
>I don't need to even sit inside a tank, let alone command one or have the faintest idea how armored warfare is conducted to have an opinion that you should take seriously
based retard
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>>243815885
>looking at flat pen
oh shit nigga what are you doing
it's still a travesty tho
>>243816087
good, jumboniggers deserve any second of it
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>>243816209
I hate jumbos just as much as you but )))) must be observed in all forms
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Does vitality actually have any utility in preventing my gunner from getting face fucked anytime someone sneezes in my direction?
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>>243816196
>you are now aware that guys who design planes are also top aces and take active part in warfare
ok
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>>243816448
You do realize that those are the people that make the order and pick the planes for production, right?
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>>243816196
If combat experience mattered why'd Germany accept the F104? ',:^]
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>>243816549
>>243816196
Based retard doesn't understand how the DoD works
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>>243816695
Yes? The officers that have actually experienced warfare notice a need for a tank which is then ordered via the ministry, which is also filled with officers that have seen combat. I dare you to go to any officer or hell, even any design department and get laughed out or atleast given this long look.
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>Tankcucks fucked over again
lmao
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>completely ignore the fact that the solid AP was more effective against soft RHA armor
>doesn't matter because they calculated using hard as shite armor
>tanks in the game still all have the same generic armor hardness instead of being varied like IRL
Bravo subhumans
R
A
V
O
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>>243816554
I'd rather take Chuck Yeager's opinion on the F104 than yours, anon
>>243817012
>air is dead
>ships are (rightfully) dead
who's laughing now
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>>243817119
>who's laughing now
Me because I stopped playing this game
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He used a 75% rp booster? Send 4 heliniggers after him at the start of the round.
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>>243817119
>Yeager
Not even top 100 aces of wii
Not even top 20 in us
Only gets jerked off by retards for breaking the sound barrier, something anybody in the airforce could've been picked for.
Hartmann was the top scoring ace of all time and testified heavily against the 104, and guess what? Unlike Yeager he was right about it.
Retard
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>The 190 C STILL doesn't have it guns fixed
>German tanks nerfed AGAIN
Remind me why anyone plays Germany?
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>>243816927
I'm gonna laugh at you when we start strapping Rheinmetalls to the top of tanks
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T 29 has now
>235mm pen with APCBC plus filler
>260mm pen with APCBC AP
what the absolute FUCK
500m values at 0°
I can now just lolpen the ufp of a Tiger II at 100m
or the UFP of the T-54 at 5 0 0 M E T E R S
MY DICK
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>>243817542
>Remind me
For fun vehicles
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>>243817542
whats wrong with the guns
also more 109s when
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>>243817628
Work first on that polytechnics/UAS degree. You ARE going for one, right? Hopefully by the time you apply you know why multiturreted tanks were trashed after prototypes.
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>>243817886
>Not understanding how unmanned turrets work
Dense, quite dense you are anon, sorry you failed out of college. Shouldn't have invested that school loan in warthunder should you?
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>>243817653
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>>243817958
You have absolutely no idea why multiturreted tanks were done away with, have you? Maybe you're so stupid you might actually think unmanned turrets require any less manpower than manned turrets. Not to worry anon, I'm sure they will allow you to work on some remote weapon station.
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>>243817851
>MGs on one entire half of the plane
>Cannons on the other half
>Instead of the wing + nose mounting of literally every other 190
They couldn't even be fucked to give Germany a copy+paste model properly lol
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>>243818229
If they dont work why do they already exist with machineguns doofus.
The only difference is the scale of the weapon and the possible threats in the future
There's a picture of the Abrams with an unmanned turret in this very fucking thread dipshit
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restard war thunder client, they are updating again
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>>243818230
It's labled correctly in xray too, what the fuck Gaijin
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>>243818340
SNEAK UPDATE
NO DEVBLOG
INTERNATIONAL TREES CONFIRMED
AXIS V ALLY TREE
SWEDE SHIT CONFIRMED
HUNGARY CONFIRMED
POLAND CONFIRMED
ITALY CONFIRMED
JAPANESE SHITS
ITALIAN SHITS
INFANTRY CONFIRMED
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>>243818320
Don't misunderstand here, anon. I have nothing against unmanned turrets. There's also a considerable difference between a remote weapon system like a 12.7 fired, aimed and loaded from the inside and having multiple turrets on a single chassis. The latter which is very stupid.
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ATTENTION!
For those worrying about not having unlocked the reserve tanks that were removed.
Worry not, because they gave those tanks to everyone and they are on the premium side of the screen, yes even for those who didn't unlock them.
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>>243818418
Infantry would be rad, imagine popping BT-5's with an anti-tank rifle
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>>243817653
what? no
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>>243818460
PRAISE OUR SLAVIC OVERLORDS FOR GIVING US TANKS FOR FREE EVEN IF THEY HAVE 13MM PEN AT 10M 90 DEGREES

G E N E R O U S
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no handholding ))))))
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>>243818771
>panther
>5.3
)))
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So what're they gonna replace the Ha-Go Commander reserve premium with? France's equivalent too now that the normal versions got nuked from the tree
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>>243818454
The fucking CROWS weapon system is not loaded from inside the tank you absolute moron
As we move away from the middle east whatever conflict we may see ourselves fighting in the future will see an increase in armor (nobody cared in the middle east to field armored IFVs)
I have said nothing about multiple turrets, unmanned turrets have been the implication from the beginning you blind shit. Why the fuck do you think I mentioned turretless technology? The fuck do you think the CROWS is? Some magical fucking fairy fart that spits 12.7? You absolute fucking nincompoop
You fool
You idiot
Don't backpedal now you hook nosed kike.
From the fucking wikipedia
The Common Remotely Operated Weapon Station (CROWS) is a remote weapon station systems used by the US military on its armored vehicles and ships. It allows weapon operators to engage targets without leaving the protection of their vehicle.
Turretless weapons systems you moron. That's what the original post is about, yeah I said multi turreted tech isn't an objectively bad idea, I'm sorry your reading comprehension and short term memory is that of a gold fish forcing you to fixate on that statement but that's your fault, not mine. The test of the post goes on to explain the usage of turretless (what was meant as unmanned whoopsie sorry I confused you hehe xD) technology apparent in modern day vehicles. Try reading, really helps.
Fucking dipshits
I mean god damn you're stupid, such systems already exist on shit like the BMP-t just far larger and not yet integrated in to MBTs.
Fucking moron.
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>>243818943
I play every nation and frankly I don’t understand the memes behind panthers and jumbos. I have never been downtiered in either. Guess it’s because I’m not premium.
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>>243819283
Are you ok, anon?
>accuses me of backpedaling while at the same time trying to deny ever talking about multiple turret but instead insists was talking about turretless design all the time
>thinks I was talking about the CROWS weapon system or any other turretless remote controlled weapon
You're literally rabid at this point trying to bend my posts that I somehow had a problem with remote controlled weapons and unmanned turrets and not the fact that you opened with the most retarded line in existance "multi turret isn't objectively a bad idea". Now I'm sitting back and waiting your response, atleast the length of the last one explaining to me with typos written by shaking hands how (multi)turrets are the same thing as remote weapon systems. Just don't read it through before posting or you might reconsider replying at all.
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>>243819937
Unmanned weapons systems are merely the evolution of multi turreted tanks. Akin to the Nb.Fhz, but modern, you don't have a man sitting underneath the main gun.
Fuck, the Leopard has a 20mm on it right now, and if we learned one thing from the Germans it's space flight and time travel so they have to have something right on the leopard.
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>>243818495
>spend 10 minutes low crawling across the map
>get run over
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Holy shit. Look at this slope performance on long 88 now.
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>>243821540
Full combined arms with EC using FOBs, air bases, and everything in between as control points is what will never happen but forever be wanted
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can someone post the individual chinaman meme?
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>>243815731
>stolen
uhh, I made that pic and it got posted there????
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>>243821613
is it better or worse
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>>243821642
So basically, Joint Operations remastered?
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>>243822058
Please I need that
Heros and generals but with content
And bf109es not dogfighting p-38 js
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I miss him bros

Why do the good ones have to go...
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>>243822046
It can penetrate T54 ufp now
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>>243822046
It used to be sub 90 before.
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>>243822310
b-but r-r-russian b-bias...
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>>243822310
>>243822401
>>243822621
Also, it seems like BR-412D has been nerfed.
I may be wrong, but I think it had like 120mm of pen@60deg.
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>>243812465
Tiger 105s stock shell lmao
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>that one guy absolutely seething about 3.7 arcade battles
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>>243822847
how much pen does the one you unlock get?
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>>243822310
>>243822621
It actually can't if you try it out in the protection analysis.
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this is ok
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Is the Soviet P-47 any good? Better than the american one in the main tree? Got a 75% discount on it.
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>>243823601
it's just a P47 with no rockets and slav pig iron bombs
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>>243823601
Not better, but still good as it gets bombs. US ones get bombs and rockets but considering people take German P-47 (which gets no ordinance) in RB GF and still kill ground shit, you should be fine. Personally the salv P-47 is my go to plane for slavs as those .50cals are absolutely worth it
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who here /uninstalled/
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>>243791326
nice
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>>243823903
Can't count how many times I did this in over 7 years
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>>243823903
Uninstalled when the T30 events ended as I'd have to buy talismans or premium to research tier VI stuff. People have no idea how relaxing it is seeing new pen values drop and not give the slightest fuck about it. Had I still had the game installed I'd be upset because the Tiger 105 and JT got ammo nerfed but now it's literally >so what
By the time the birthday hits BR changes will happen and stuff will get slightly fixed and until then only dev servers and aprils fools will make me touch this game
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...was the object 120's APFSDS buffed? I don't remember it having such good angle performance.
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>>243823903

Not me, because I'm mature enough to understand that this is only the first iteration of this change, and they will have to make changes as they go, and that not everyone will be happy regardless.

Sure, take a break until they fix it, but to uninstall it completely seems like a knee-jerk reaction to a temporary problem
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>>243824432
dont worry, us ultra neekerit have everything unlocked so we just jump to the newest bandwagon to stomp
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>>243823903
Probably will soon
Only thing keeping me in game is low-mid tier spading, my friend who's new to the game, and a mild hope
Uninstalled gmod and arma earlier, got back ~250 gigs.
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2.0, 2.3 or 3.3 shitalians for tier 2?
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>>243826358
play that asl44 sumting tier 1 car till you have all of tier 1 and 2 unlocked, the dumb open top anti air car that can lolpen anything it faces

T: pasta god
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>>243826358
M15/42 is an absolute fucking meme right now
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>>243826358
I'm having fun with P40, R3 T20 and C.205EC
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Why didn't Gaijin apply the changes to aircraft cannons as well? Are they afraid of the 30mm Type 5 performing as well as the Mk. 103?
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>>243818943
>>panther
>>5.3
i thought they were 5.7 the D and A version
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>>243822310
once i shot the side of the turret and PIN, nothing
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>>243827071
nice meme arrows RETARD why don't you g0 b4ck 2 RDDT?
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god i love that gaijin buffed jm33 i just want to give them all my money fo0r goldybirds because of the jm33 buff based gaijin heil gaijin very redpilled and based

im also a big fan of the dm23 nerf take that germs hahahahahahhahahahaha

imagine how great its going to be when gaijin adds type 74g with type 93 apfsds and ah-64djp while germany will have NO APACHE
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>>243823531
The M19 and M42 should have the same pen then, shouldn't they?
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So is Ground RB completely fucked right now or are the pen changes not that big of a deal?
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>>243828007
ground RB became based the second Gaijin nerfed germs and buffed japs
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>>243828007
T29 clubs ridiculously hard, but then again you should be avoid playing against 6.7 claps anyway
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>>243828007
Wait are the pen changes already through? I thought they'd come with 1.87?
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>>243828356
No, they dropped earlier today
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How are the 4.7 german SPG's and tank destroyers? I am thinking of a turret less harem because a lot of the time I think I do better with the STUG and Marder 3 in 3.7 than the F2, probably because the turret less nature forces me to not get too ballsy.
Are strumpanzer 4 and jag 38 any better at taking hits in it's tier vs the stug F?
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>>243829734
shit not sturmpanzer, mixed it up with the jagpanzer 4
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>>243829734
The Hetzer gets good once you research engine and filters as it adds max climb inclination
The Dicker Max is slow and has miserable gun traverse, so you'll only really be able to have fun with it in arcade, granted you dont get strafed by aircraft
The 5.3 PzIV/70 feels better than the Jagdpanzer IV
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>>243830053
Dicker is fun in rb, purely as the jumbo punisher though
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>>243825802
based and gaijinpilled
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>>243829734
STuG III G actually has ok armour and T-34s usually don't know how to deal with you. Personally I loved German TDs and would advise you to give them a go. I usually do better in casemate TDs than I do in real tanks, no idea why. I can take KJPz in 7.7 and do way better than in Leo 1. Having no turret forces you to be more careful and once you go back to turreted tanks you can do way better than you would otherwise. Jadgapnzer IV and 38 have angled armour and especially 38t can bounce a surprising amount of stuff, but you should still be careful. After Marder there are some tanks that aren't that good, but doing that tree is worth for KJPz you get at 7.0. Peak for STuG line is Jagdpanther, it's a real sweetheart, but it is useful to have a few turreted tanks as a backup no matter which tier it is. They can help you in some situations where you'll wish you had a turret. Perhaps Ferdy is ok too, but it's not worth it as far as I'm concerned and Jagdtiger is fucked now as its ammo got nerfed but its armour doesn't allow it to go at any lower BR.
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TIL: the japanese long 75 has NOT been nerfed.
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>>243830805
>ulq
kys
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>>243830805
KVs BTFO
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>>243831164
not based and bluepilled
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>>243831164
I play on an old laptop.
Have some sympathy.

Also, lmao@ all those drama queens at leddit.
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>>243831457
>Intel HD 3000 anon post
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New squadron:

=FrSkn=

To join you must prove you have a foreskin, people without foreskins will not be accepted!
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>>243831596
>an*me
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>>243830632
I am not too sure how far I will go up in the tree probably late WW2. I have got the F2 and STUG F full upgraded, and the wirbelwind somewhat. I have almost unlocked the Tiger but I don't plan to heavily focus on 5.7, mainly just wanted to try a german tank that isn't made out of tissue paper. If I want to focus more on 4.7 and unlock the 38, what would be a good line up, say maybe 2 turret less guns and one traditional tank? I skipped over the STUG G, would it be better to just skip to the 38 and the Jagpanzer 4 since it's at 4.7?
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>>243831916
does your intel hd 3000 have problems running it?
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>>243831843

Does the foreskin have to be attached? I have my foreskin preserved and attached to a necklace, does that count?
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>>243826358
If 3.7 is fine too you should really use the M41M Semovente. I know that it holds only 8 rounds but once you unlock the T3 ammo you'll be the mayor of oneshot city, the only thing i can't reliably oneshot are T34s hit from behind or the side fuel dangs are of additional prodection dovarish))))))
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>>243827053
It's typical subhuman cherrypicking, some apcr rounds weren't even touched; 20mm pzgr40 and 75mm t45 and those are the ones I looked at.
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I'm here to laugh at the guy that said the Vickers is a bad tank.
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>>243827053
they changed 75mm duck iirc
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>>243831946
No idea about lineups as I don't have the game installed and I also don't know how much these ammo changes actually affected game as a whole. If you're gonna do 4.7, then take into the account that you might see Jumbos, which you will need to either flank or aim carefully at their weakspots. I'd say use the two 4.7 TDs you have, a Puma (it's nice to have a light tank), Ostwind or Wirbelwind and Pz.IV H. Flak truck with 88 is ok too and you'll need a plane for CAS. Your choice on which one. Personally I have an 8 vehicle line-up so I can take a vehicle that is best suited for the situation I'm in and it also depends on how the match is going, but just give it a go. Learn to flank, it'll be useful against stuff like Jumbos. You will kinda want to switch to Panthers a bit until you get Jagdpanther, though, but don't worry, they are really fun to use if you don't need to reverse.
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>>243827913
Nah, the york has more powerful 40mms than the M42 and M19.
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>>243835216
Maybe it's not the team that is the problem. You are the only constant here.
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Is slavbolt still worth it to rake in the cash and speed through russia t4?
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>>243835216
Careful, people will come from the woodworks claiming that because you do well in x vehicle, that vehicle is still considered bad
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>>243835216
but muh british suffering
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>>243831946
i never played 4.7 since you don't get a tank at that BR, and the TDs don't even have a gun capable of frontally fucking the jumbos you see all the time anywhere but through the MG port.

If you want to play that BR you should probably go with the TDs, a Pz IV G/H, ostwind, Do 217 E2 and a 109 G2 trop/G6.

The Tiger I isn't really that good, and (like every heavy) completly sucks in uptiers. The panther A will be your bread and butter tank at 5.7. After that comes 6.3 or 6.7 but i don't know how playable those are in the current meta.
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>>243835216
>#1 - 0 deaths - 1 cap - 3 assists - 8 kills
>#2 - 2 deaths - 1 cap - 4 assists - 1 kill

Yet the #1 guy only has just over 1000 more in score.
?????
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>>243836694
let me guess, you're the retard that claimed french planes are good?

>>243836959
second one probably did something in a plane which gives you a lot more scoreboard points than doing anything in groundunits does
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https://warthunder.com/en/news/6029-server-maintenance-en
https://warthunder.com/en/news/6029-server-maintenance-en
https://warthunder.com/en/news/6029-server-maintenance-en
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>>243836596
It's okay, if you want SL a KV-1E works better imho, air rb matches just take way too long and their sl earnings have been nerfed, it's an okay grinder though.
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>>243836945
It may not be but I just want to try something different instead of grinding and playing the same 2 variants of tanks and TD's that has been going on for the past few weeks.
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>>243837189
Maybe the packet loss shitfest will be reduced.
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absolutely based, the IS-7 APCBC round now has more pen than 105mm APDS rounds
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gaijin revert this patch right fucking now
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Is it just me or do Germs seem to do better on city maps?
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M4A3 105 buffed again, literaly unstopable after ammo changes.
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>>243837903
>Keep buffing 105
>Keep buffing a3e2
>Keep buffing 8a1
YEAH BOYS
LETS KEEP THE BIAS GOIN
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Are you guys playing on the test server or what? What is this about ammo changes?
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>>243837998
yes
you need to donate 5$ to gain access
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>>243837771
>4kg shell vs 33kg shell
woah dude really?
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>>243837903
But sadly the jimbo is now extremely deadable to various slav rounds.
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I've been out of the loop for the last couple of weeks.
What does this patch mean for me a bong main? Is APDS or HESH getting some love?
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>>243837903
How? The changes didn't touch HE or HEAT
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Up to 3.7 on slavshit, looks like just t-34's for 30 years of grinding, is there anything interesting or fun between 3.7 and 5.7?
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>>243838587
Almost everything it faced had its ammo nerfed. Its even more OP now
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>>243838531
guess:)
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>>243838708
3.7-5.7 is the only fun you'll have with soviet tanks until 8.0
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>10,5cm Tiger 2 stock round is 175mm penetration now
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>>243838263
oh yes, nice argument. The KV2 should also perform better than any smoothbore shooting shitty lightweight darts then
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>>243839270
>he doesn't have the 10.5 APCBC shell researched by now
The golden age of German 7.0 ages ago.
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how's the Re.2001 compared to the C.202
also what's the difference between the serie 1 and the CB
sagittario fucking when
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>>243840114
wrong image but you get the idea
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>>243838263
>t. Anton
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>>243840114
roll
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>>243839289
You are actually retarded though and I feel bad for you.
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>>243839270
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
only balanced for a paper design)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>243839270
>literally worse stock
>for a BR increase
give me 1 reason why they shouldn’t add 65mm onto the turret face
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>T-34-57 can now pen the jumbo frontally out to 500m
LOL
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>>243841259
)))))))))
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>>243841259
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>>243841259
don't be racist (((( we ban for racism ((((((((
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>>243841259
Jesus christ they went full retard with the APBC normalization.
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>>243841259
>57
that can't be true
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>>243841532
i wanna knock her teeth out
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>>243841940
don't bully boats
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>>243841259
Thats good. Time to play asu57 and t34 57
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>>243821613
Had a look at it versus a fucking jumbo in the protection analysis and it can bounce at just 500 meters. Wow, so impressive.
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>>243841902
)))))
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>>243842329
please tell me that's the armor viewer being retarded and treating the top plate as a separate
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>>243842542
>click to simulate shot
)
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>>243842225
Nigger, what are you talking about. It pens a Jumbo from 3 kilometers away.
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>>243838263
based retard
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>>243842914
Seems to be a bug. Sometimes when I move back to the frontal armour the pen shows 200+ effective armour, move it away and then back and it's 150 effective for some reason.
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>>243839289
>>243840382
>>243843228
Get a life.
Do you understand energy cunt?
A 4kg shell moving at 1500m/s has rougly the same amount of kinetic energy as a 33kg shell moving at 900m/s.
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>>243842896
>>243842329
i'm all for jumboniggers getting shafted but the 57 facefucking it is a bit ridiculous
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>>243843723
It wouldn't if Gaijin made APBC rounds have unbelievably unrealisting normalization
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>>243843525
applied to how much surface that needs to penetrate? Able to keep its shape while doing so?
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>junky yaks ivan built in some tiny garage facing nazi ufo 109s
wew love the balance
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>>243843846
>>243843723
>>243842896
What I've noticed is if you hover over the MG port it's got almost identical armor value as the hull. It's probably a bug - either the armor, or armor viewer.
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>>243844020
>junky
Nigger.
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>>243843850
>what is overmatching
last reply
i dont converse with mouth breathers
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>>243844142
It's the armor viewer. If you move your mouse from the hull down to the mg port it stays at ~130mm but if you start from the center of the mg port and go upwards it shows the correct ~110mm
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>italy
>go into the city
>get shot in the ass by an italian car that is powered by a noiseless engine
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>>243844375
>i dont converse with mouth breathers
tell that to the voice in your head
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Tomorrow I will unlock the Conqueror.
Can't wait to dab on everyone with 120mm HESH goodness.
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dude i f*cking love having nothing but a solid wall of clouds from 2km to 8km
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did anything become really good due to these changes?
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>>243845263
Long 88
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>fighting BR5 plane as BR4
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>jets match
>enemy team has a squad of "those guys", the ones with 10,000 matches in jets who just cream everyone they fight
I should really check before I spawn so I can just save my time
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Doesn't Gaijin have big fuck-ups before Aprils Fools every year or did they break the streak when I wasn't playing this shit in 2017? I know I remember something happening two or three years in a row where they fucked up huge and everyone forgave them when April 1st hit
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>>243845263
bong 17pounder gun
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>IS-7 has only 26mm pen than the 105 L7 APFSDS
))))))))
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>>243845759
>>243845525
but those were both already good
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>>243845761
*less
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>Supersonics is already dead with 2-5 minute queue times
lmao what the fuck, do people really just hate planes that much?
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>>243845761
>>243845902
it actually has more than it on 0° and 60°
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>>243846227
))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
RACIST
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>try to help a spitfire in a 1vs2
>he just flies off as soon as enemy disengages him never to return no matter how much I beg him
Never helping you stupid spitniggers again.
S.
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>>243846020
There was literally NO POINT to adding gen 2 aircraft without ground attack capabilities

I feel sorry for the retards that bought into A 2 A missiles and supersonics
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>Squadronfaggots with literally 90% winrates just because they only play with 2-4 other people over voip
This is why I hardly play planes anymore, I find that the squadron advantage is far less in tanks than it is in planes.
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>>243846020
>>243846693
There was a point, same as it was with adding tier 6 tanks. You can sell top tier premiums for 50-60€ and a lot of people also pay to research new vehicles that get added in every update. Pic related, one of the morons that does it with jap vehicles. As for the supersonics, top tier jets had a ton of players and as new jets get added, more people will play again as right now there's no point in playing top tiers because you have nothing to research. They'll probably start adding 2 new top tier tanks/jets so they can milk each update for longer, mark my words.
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>>243847376
I still get almost instant queues for 10.0 tanks though, but jets is desolate already.
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Reminder to report iranian immigrants.
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>>243847450
That's because it's more fun to dogfight in RB GF than in Air GF. Sure, Air RB can be fun for a big, but it's just not the same with markers
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>IS-7 is still king
very nice
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>teammates who literally don't know how to fucking land without crashing
>in rank 3 BR4
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say I was to shoot an Abrams (or Chally, let's say really fucking heavily armoured turret) with a FV4005 on the cheek. what would happen, without considering the explosion going through the hull roof?
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>>243847932
gun barrel will probably be destroyed and so will the track on whichever side you shot
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>>243847932
ok misha
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>>243848146
fuck forgot to say I mean irl
>>243848223
I just stole from /tv/, easy on the autism
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>>243847932
ingame? you will most likely destroy his barrel
IRL? close to nothing, all the energy from the explosion would be absorbed by the very first armor plate it lands on, and spalling wouldn't even go through the composite material inside
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>>243848458
>I just stole
like true slav misha
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Marder when
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>>243848959
isnt the hull already in the game?
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>>243849084
Seems different?
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>>243848959
>20mm autocannon
pass
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>>243848498
>50 kJ to the face
>close to nothing
doubt it t.b.h.
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>>243849198
How about the Puma
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>>243848498
A shell that big with that much explosives in it should automatically hullbreak any vehicle in the game.
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Panzerhaubitze 2000 when
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>>243849263
Direct hits with HE will crack plates for sure. Also blow off wheels and tracks, the fragments also have very high KE and will penetrate lightly armored parts.
http://sill-www.army.mil/firesbulletin/archives/2002/NOV_DEC_2002/NOV_DEC_2002_FULL_EDITION.pdf
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>>243849459
Get some good photos: https://www.flickr.com/photos/bundeswehrfoto/page4
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http://weaponsystems.net/weaponsystem/II04%20-%20Rarden.html
>warrior
>1,070 m/s for HE, 1,175 m/s for APDS
http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product2585.html
>Proven accuracy is such that 1 m groups at a range of 1,000 m are achieved on a regular basis.
>shell dip is fucking crazy
None of this makes any sense to me.
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>>243849263
>>243849457
>HESH shell
>effective against composite armour
as >>243847932 said "without considering the explosion going through the hull roof?" it would do fuck all outside of making a large hole in the first armour plate, and there is a difference between a 22kg of TNT equivalent to the turret cheek and a 500kg of TNT IED going off under the vehicle
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>>243849459
after centauro 155/39
>>243849595
would it be enough to dislocate the turret from its seating? after all, it's a 18MN slap
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>>243849924
It's because of the optics zoom anon.
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>>243850078
as I previously said, no way all that kinetic energy would only crack the first plate
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JUST
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>>243850432
>asymmetrical loadout
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>243850315
since when does a HESH shell works as a kinetic penetrator?
HESH is useless against composite armour because the explosive material is litteraly being squashed on the first armour plate it impacts and detonates, all the killing force comes from the explosion itself and spalling it creates, which I very much doubt has enough kinetic energy to go through the remaining composite material
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>>243851112
okay misha
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>>243811534
>french reserves so bad they get deleted
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>>243851603
one of them had an aphe shell with only 13mm of pen at 0 m 0 degrees after the update lol
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>>243851112
You are not taking into account that we are talking about a naval gun here firing a 72kg shell.
Sure it may not "penetrate" the turrent but it will rip the fucking turret off of the hull instead.
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>>243851709
hahahahah
fuck
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wew lads
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So what's the verdict on the pen changes now that it's been out for a bit? Is it as terrible as it looks?
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>>243851874
>large portion of kinetic energy gets lost on impact due to soft material being squashed
>29kg of TNT equivalent ripping off a 22+ ton turret
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ZiS-6 was my favorite gun and I haven't dared try it yet
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NO ARMOR, IS BEST ARMOR xD
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>>243853319
he's right, you know
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>>243852960
still for the most part good enough to just point and click anything being a 5.3, but fuck
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>>243850282
That doesn't make sense.
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>M15/42 talisman
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>say a tank if statistically underpowered
>nu uh youre just bad waaaa
God I hate this playerbase.
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>>243841940
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>try to play an air battle at low tier
>fly in one direction for 5 minutes
>die because someone flew into me
gee I wonder why no one plays this shit
they should make maps proportionally sized to the speed of the craft in the match or some shit, nothing like flying biplanes 10 km just to shoot at something
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>>243856050
Almost every map on the game is too fucking big, both in air and ground forces.
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>>243852494
was over 300mm before
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>>243856245
yeah I agree, there's nothing more fun in this game than playing karelia and eastern europe at 10.0
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>>243780414
unironically this
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>shoot side of t95
>ricochet off his fucking wheels somehow
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>chink ru 251 sitting in corner
>I shoot a tank and non-pen
>he drives forward into the view of the chink
>chink waits until I die to shoot him
first and last time I expect a chink to fucking do anything a rational human being would do
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>european province
>you can sipe people in ther spawn point from your own spawn point
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finnish tree with extra balance when )))))))))))))))))))))))
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anti-tank mine dispensers for planes when
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>m103 chads would get made useless by HEAT-FS if they get uptiered
>now they're made useless in general because of centauroniggers
>get uptiered in my 6.7
>get made useless by m103 chads
really makes you ponder about the BR compression.........
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>>243859219
>all they do is blow your track off and be fucking annoying
"no"
i would rather give the russians PTABs than that
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So how's the T30 now?
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>>243857267
Yeah good luck penetrating a T95 through its lower side dude, 100mm sideskirt a bunch of wheels and trolly shit and then a 50mm side plate.
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>tier 6 jets
>people still thinking that they're clever for bringing less than 20 minutes of fuel
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>>243860505
I wouldn't bring anything less than 30 for the Super Sabre, that thing seriously guzzles fuel when you turn the afterburner on.
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Imagine being such a faggot that you bought the L44 A1A1
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>>243860950
i honestly don't see the purpose of that thing, the A1A1 isn't really any worse
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>>243859540
I want to know but I don't wanna get out of bed, it's too comfy
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>>243860950
>>243861202
Bigger round should have more spalling, but besides that it seems pointless, just for people who didn't have an a1a1 to talisman i guess.
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>>243863154
>just for people who didn't have an a1a1 to talisman i guess.
just for people to admit they want to be a complete nigger in their undertiered tank*
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Did they nerf the post pen on the a1a1 DM23? This shit feels like I'm firing fucking APDS again.
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>>243864410
yes, look at the pen
it’s only 337mm, close to the fucking IS-7 now
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>Everyone whining in chat about the "massive" abrams nerf after the new changes to pen values
This seems like bullshit, I don't notice any appreciable difference with M735 and I'm pretty sure M774 got an increase at 60 degrees.
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>MFW Leo2s cant pen my IPM1 front cheek reliably after this patch
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Are they slavic rats finally deleting some of the made up tanks like panther 2?
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>>243865135
Handheld and proud!
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>>243865351
t. nuked by b&r paper panther
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>>243865404
abrams aren't even hard to kill, just shoot the ufp by the gunner and it'll bounce right into the turret ring and kill the gunner and commander

t.-80 player
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So they are still using their own data to scale shells right? I thought they were scrapping things like this and just shoving numbers into an equation now. What kind of modifier makes the Chief's better at 60 degrees? I know it's a more advanced shell but aren't people complaining about them not modelling that kind of thing? I am confused
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I've found out that the map you get spawned into isn't random, it's actually somewhat set by the game before you hit "to battle"

Every time I get Vietnam I kill the game in task manager and when I open it again it will try to load me into another match of vietnam at least 2 to 3 times before it picks a different map to have me spawn into.
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How would the game look if actual realistic values for armor and penetration were used instead of sekrit dockuments?
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>>243865746
Sounds like you ain't no fortunate son.
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>>243865805
Slavs would get fucking stomped
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>>243865746
merely coincidence)
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>>243817653
>Finally able to lolpen the glacis of the Tiger II
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>>243856245
>>243856585
wasted space the game
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>>243865006
I'm all for top tier US getting nerfs, but the abrams changes do seem funny at first glance given the stock round having higher flat pen than the T4 mod. However I have a bad feeling that abrams might get a BR decrease over it. This update is on so many levels of fuckery.
Also my wife Kyouko is so cute!
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>Literally just have to use historical penetration data for rounds
>Instead do this retarded convoluted bullshit that no one is happy with
>Don't even follow your own retarded calculator anyway
What the fuck is wrong with GE
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>>243867008
)))))))))))))))))))
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>this italian fucking italian memecar
FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH WIRBELWIND
R3 T20 FA-HS IS MY NEW BEST FRIEND
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More italian spaa when?
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>get killed by a fucking rocket tank 30 seconds into match
>fuck it I'll just sit back here with a wirbelwind for the rest of the match and get near top of the board just shooting faggots out of the air and contributing nothing
)))))))))))
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>type 90 bushnigger
unironically kill yourself if you do this
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>>243867814
ok m*ttoid
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>>243868290
>anyone i don't like is a mutt
sorry yamazaki, i play slav(e)s
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when?
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>>243870207
what in the flying fuck is that shit?
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>8,000 GE only lets your max out like 3-4 crews
nice
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>>243865746
>it's actually somewhat set by the game before you hit "to battle"
I think it's randomized on a set interval. Every time I die super early on in a game and instantly rejoin + find a match I get the same map
must be VERY hard coding))))))))))))))
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Are IL-2s good for memeing in arkaden?
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>>243856585
>>243856245
Nah like >>243866596 pointed out, it's mostly empty space with them autistically forcing a shitload of people in to a 2ftx2ft cap point.
That said big maps aren't bad
Give us back EC for planes but also combined arms tank on a big map and lets see some shit hit the fan
Fucking 5km shots with HEATFS flinging meme machines
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Why do some HE rounds lose pen over distance and some don't? Why do some HE rounds also lose pen against angles and some don't? I thought chemical energy rounds are supposed to perform the same no matter the distance. Really unsure about the angled armor differences on some of them though.
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>>243871858
)))))
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>>243871384
Literally just add a mode that's air + ground (and maybe also ships) that takes place on a large map that has various kinds of objectives scattered around, AI planes, tanks, soft targets, gun positions, etc just general shit for players to fire at when they aren't shooting other players

Why the hell don't we have anything like this yet? What the fuck is even stopping GE?
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>Test out T30 ammo on Tiger II
>Everyone says it overmatches the frontal armor
>Doesn't even tickle it
>At best can pop the turret face with HE and hope
>Try again on Panther II
>1/5 shots actually pen the UFP
>Try same shit with on tiger with panther
>Delete it with he
?????????

>>243871858
Why do some fucking rockets lose penetration? That's the real question
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when?
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>>243872341
not enough money for developers((( buy more golden birdies and maybe we can afford it)))))
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I can't believe people still play tanks. It's so bad now with all the mixed battles that occur, even at lower BRs.
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>unlock tiger
>expect something that could actually take a shot
>try it out
>angle like 1980's japanese car designer
>still get face fucked like it's a panzer 4

real tempted to join the slav(e) race so I can at least have a line up of a line up consisting only of sanic machines to reenact human wave tactics with
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give me a quick rundown on whats clubbing now with the new armor pen values
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>>243872856
Playing anything like around late WWII/postWWII but early korean that is considered a "heavy" against the litany of HEATFS light tanks is the penultimate pain
Fuck Italy
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>>243873245
Ha-go stomps now
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>>243873378
wtf where did it go
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Did the update really make the fucking american T30's APHE shells even worse?

Or am I smoking cocaine?
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>>243873135
The only correct choice at 5.7 is to play the 2 panthers
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>Walther will NEVER EVER make another P88

Calling the suicide hotline t b h
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>on fire
>no FPE
>fuck it charge
>drive into a river
>fire goes out
deepest lore
>>243874391
trip back on burt
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>>243873945
It's pen values were nerfed so badly by the update gaijin decided to remove it, along with a few frog vehicles, because they were rendered completely useless.
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>>243874198
I'll probably just go play some other tree because slavshit looks boring because of (never forget) the 6 million t34 variants and the more interesting german shit is too high of a level for me not to be garbage at
mutt or french maybe I'll try
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>>243874708
just play I-T-A-L-Y
you've got like a month left of stomping everything until gaijin decides enough people have spent birdies unlocking them and adjust them
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What is the funnest tier?
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>>243875830
3
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>>243875830
around 3.0-4.0. the match up between pz4, sherman, and t-34 is about as historical as this game gets, though the KV-1 can be a bit of a nightmare to kill
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>>243874391

Would rather CZ-75
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who thought helicopters were a good idea
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>>243874708
T-34s are fun as fuck. 5.3 is pure fun and 5.7 to a lesser degree as well. Light tank line sucks ass till the BMP but in turn it's easily one of the funniest vehicles in the game and lolpenning heavies in full uptiers is amazing.
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LOL WE MAKE LIGHT OF OUR DEGENERATE ANIME PEDOPHILIA WITHIN WAR THUNDER xD
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>>243877112
kys bmpnigger
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>>243877173
so?
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>>243877173
>tfw furfag
>tfw you autists have to share a thread with me every day not knowing i am
hehe
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>>243877385
eat shit you camping faggot
come join the 6.7/7.3 chemical round fun gang
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>>243877065
Anton's Accountant
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>>243877532
>furfag
>not a scalechad
Get our of here plebian
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Big maps are terrible.
They usually have very little cover which just resorts in you being memed from 4km away by some bush covered centauronigger or leopard.
They totally favour fast vehicles flanking so the Brits get absolutely screwed over and when it gets to late game it can take 10 minutes just for people to find and kill each other.
Shite.
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>>243877578
NO! I will suffer with my anemic APDS and like it!
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>>243877796
a snek is fine too
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>>243877860
reminder every complaint with game maps could be mostly fixed with a slightly more complex cap/spawn system on a larger map with a fuckload more players
Hell I'd wager you could even increase the br spread just on account of there being more room for you to move around and hide.
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what are the recommended tier 1 and 2 american vehicles for working up the tree?
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>>243877532
do you like taking dick or giving dick?
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Long boi when?
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>>243878303
taking dick
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>>243878397
stop pretending to be me
>>243878303
giving
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>>243878025
>>243877860
Why don't they just add Rush maps like from Bad Company?
One team on defensive, every cap taken pushes spawns.
That way you can utilize the full map without it being unnecessarily large.
Or better yet, let us veto maps we don't want to fucking play.
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>>243877931
I almost know that feel. Brits second highest, only playing them again due to fun 4.7 loud out. that pure rage of british 5s in arcade

>>243878025
Maps would be easy to fix if the designers knew what the fuck line of sight is and how important it is.

>>243878371
Is there a there a more developed line with less players? So many SUs and no one playing them.
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>>243878804
They tried that and deleted it.
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>>243877532
i know exactly who you are but i forgot your username so i cant put you on blast
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>>243867814
:^)
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>>243878804
Just make it like tf2 5cp but instead of capping the spawn zone each team has to cap like 2 smaller points and the spawn is behind the smaller points, so you can't just have some faggot in a locust hop on one point over and over.
Sounds bad because right now, in 16v16, you have half the team dead 5 minutes in and you will never have enough players to keep from one side getting stomped, EC keeps refreshing players indefinitely so that fixes that 100%
Make it like a fucking gacha game at that point, died a hundered times in each of your tanks without doing anything? Gotta play another nation until crew unlock, faggot.
>>243878876
Holy shit fucking THIS
I forgot what map it is, one of the desert one, they have a fucking rock overlooking the spawn that is near impossible to hit the guy camping your spawn, but he has full control over you. On top of that, it's off to the left, and BEHIND the spawn so none of the brain dead niggers on your team look at it.
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>>243878941
I can garauntee you don't
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>>243879169
i bet i do you cum guzzler
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>>243879076
I actually like those bushes. That is aesthetic. The 3d ones are gross though.
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>>243879268
I've never posted my username here buddy
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>>243879339
you sperged out in a match and whined about it on here once, saw your gun related shit on fur affinity, you're dead kiddo
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>>243879451
I don't have a furaffinity nor have I ever sperged at this game, but nice try!
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>>243879289
Surely you don't mean these?
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>>243879510
nice mind games, furfag
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>>243879581
L
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>T-34-57 APHEBC can now pen through a Jumbo's UFP out to 500m or more
Jesus fucking Christ, Gaijin.
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>>243837903
How?
I can't stop dieing in that thing
>Be bad lololol
Yeah yeah, fuck off
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>>243879790
that's historically accurate though
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>>243879132
Bottom left spawn of Sanai?
C on Italy is an even better example of broken maps/spawns. Not only does it give a metric fuck ton of protected LoSs on one of either side's spawn points. It's also quicker to go to the spawn camping locations then to move to the other caps points.
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>>243880589
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>Russian casemates have mediocre guns, poor speed, and shit armour
Why are these even in the game still? Nobody uses them.
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VERY balanced aircraft

poor bastards couldn't touch me much
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>>243880752
Su-85, Su-85M, and Su-100 are all pretty good
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>>243880850
They're all completely redundant vehicles that will get popped like pimples by anything that even looks at them. You can't get into a good position to snipe because you're so slow, and even if you do? Even a Tier 1 tank or a reserve can obliterate you if they see you, and repositioning isn't possible. Russian casemates are completely worthless compared to American and German tank destroyers.
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>>243880589
>that's historically accurate though
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>>243881023
Su-85M is actually quite heavily armored, all three are pretty good backups if your T-34 dies imho.
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>wing snaps off due to arcade-slav mechanics that have no basis in reality
>forced to not be allowed to play for 5 minutes
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>>243881210
>Quite heavily armoured
>Can be one-shot in the UFP by every single 5.0 or higher non-American opponent at 500m or more
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20 Shermans = 1 Panzerkampfwagen Sechs Ausführung B mit achtundachtzig Kampfwagenkanone dreiundvierzig L/einundsiebzig feuer Panzergranate neununddreißig/dreiundvierzig Panzerbrechend mit Hartkern unter Ballistik-Kappe, Projektil hochexplosiv und Panzergranate vierzig/dreiundvierzig Hartkernmunition panzerbrechend und Granate neununddreißig/drei Hohlladungsgeschoss panzerbrechend und zwei sieben zweiundneunzig Maschinengewehr vierunddreißig auf der Deutsches Heer
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>half of the team is F-100 and FJ niggers loading dozens of rockets so they can go die after earning 5000 lions
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>maintenance
???
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>>243882974
okay napalmratte
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>>243883064
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>>243883446
:extreme_think:
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>>243883446
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I'm rank 3 aviation and tonks with like 4 nations; does the game ever get fun? It just feels like progress slows to a crawl around rank 3.
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>getting into a twisty fight above 30,000 feet in the MiG-19
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>>243884387
theres no fun in high tiers
except fiats and other 106mm gun carriers
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>>243884387
honestly i found the game to be suffering until i hit the point where i have unlocked everything i was interested in and can now just fuck around and play just whenever i'm bored, and that only took me about 2,500 hours.
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>>243884635
my god, i would do anything for one of those cuties to sit down on my face.
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>>243877023
>kv1 is hard to pen
*laughs in Pz4 F2*
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>>243884885
well yea, but most other tanks will have an issue with it. a well anlgled KV1 is nearly impossible for a 75mm sherman to knock out cleanly, and its nearly impossible with a cromwell. you have to rely on fires in his engine most of the time. because it's a diesel tank it takes for ever to burn up though
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>>243884387
4.7 used to a be a ton of fun but is now a total shitshow, 5s aren't balanced worth shit, and 6s are incredibly unfun unless you like sniping with heavies. It picks back up at 7s with every vehicle class being more viable.
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replace br/tiers with chronological order

discuss
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>>243885808
With the long 88 being reliable again, German 6.7 is pretty viable again now. I was kinda shocked when I played there yesterday.
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what are they trying to nerf now? SL income? RP?
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>>243886005
Everyone who`s not German gonna cry
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>>243886005
>Chafee is suddenly at the equivalent of 6.0 or 6.7
How about no.
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ooh?
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>>243886005
You'll have to use numbers instead of BRs to balance, then. A 1943 germ vs slav game would have Tiger Is and Panthers vs T34s without the 85mm. That wouldn't be fair ))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>243886026
>what are they trying to nerf now?

fun
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>>243886168
they're making game better
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>>243886168
The War Thunder game servers will be taken down for scheduled maintenance and hardware modernization in one of the data centres on the 12th of February at 06:30 GMT for a minimum of two hours.

Premium accounts will be compensated for the downtime.

Thank you for your patience!
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>>243886067
Germans would cry even harder now facing T34/29 and IS3/IS6 exclusevly
Italy and Japan would be straight fucked
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>>243886401
*adds E-series for germans*
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>>243886005
>no top tier helis
yes please
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>>243886005
Would require complete rebalancing so will never happen. Would also exasperate the problem of certain countries being horribly under-powered or just not played at some ranges.
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reee fucking sever get back up
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>japan hit hardest by update

why? barely anyone plays them as is
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>>243887347
At what BRs? Used Chi-To's earlier and if anything they feel even better.
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>>243886575
Napkin scribbles arent reality
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>>243887576
wow, it's as if it's a myth spread by ledditors to farm karma
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>>243887117
>AB
>me too
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>Let's implement huge sweeping changes to a major game mechanic without any testing and figure out the balance afterwards! What could possibly go wrong?
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>>243888259
havent played in 4 months
what did they do now?
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>>243888525
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/442468-server-update-11022019/
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>>243888259
Aside from outliers(like IS-3, T29 and some otheres), the changes have been pretty good for the most part.
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>checking new pen stats
>IS-7 has 311mm of pen
>most APFSDS rounds have had their pen fucked with(not slavs though, they're untouched)
>M61 shot is now inherently better than M72 shot
what the fuck
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>>243889134
>T29
I hope you mean T30 because the T29 got it's pen buffed
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>charioteer
>0changes for apds
uh?
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>slav 37mm HVAP now has less pen than AP
what
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>>243889485
I mean that those fuck with the balance too much.
And shoul have their BRs adjusted ASAP.
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Reverse psychology works very well on Gaijin. Post things that you DEFINITELY DON'T want added to the game as soon as possible!
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>>243889857
I want more supersonic planes
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>>243890049
Invalid answer, they've already opened the floodgates like they did with ATGMs so you need to start picking.
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>>243889675
how does that make sense though
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>>243890139
I want battleships
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>>243889857
I dont want the
>leclerc 1st series
>T80U
>BMP3
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>>243890513
>leclerc
vomit
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>>243890687
I don't want the X-56 Mutt!
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>>243889857
I DEFINIETLY don't want the Leo 2A5!
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>>243889134
>have been pretty good
If you consider "not aligning with historical data" good then sure
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>>243891619
nice reddit buzzword
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Is the Javelin Mk.9 really that bad?
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>>243892337
yes
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>launch game
>look at plane in hangar
>exit game
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>>243892635
Fuck.
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>>243892337
It's okay against Tier 5s, but total garbage vs Tier 6s.
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>All those user made vehicles in live.warthunder
>never make it to game
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>>243893076
I don't follow live.warthunder, what are some interesting vehicles there?
I remember the VK Leopard and Avro Vulcan.
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>>243890687
>not liking the leclerc
Cringe
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>>243893728
>having shit taste
yikes
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>>243893854
Liking any of the following orc tanks
>Challanger
>Abrams
>Leopard 2
Big yikes
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>>243893554
>https://live.warthunder.com/feed/models/
Just change the past week for all time and you'll see theres everything. Even some fictional stuff, someone even bothered to make t-14 armata
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am I autistic?
>playing BMP-1
>mostly going for cap points and avoiding combat if possible
>pretending that I'm dropping off/picking up infantry
>trying to stay close to friendly tanks as much as possible
>actually having fun while doing so
so am I autistic or is this normal behavior for an adult male?
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>diving on zero in new guinea
>friendly destroyers flak hits me and yellows me
>cant pull up and crash into the ocean

woooooooow
last time this happened to me was four years ago
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>>243875504
>centauro
op but doesnt have backup tanks
>that coffin with double shootas on roof
op but doesnt have enough ammo to wipe more than 5-6 guys
>otomatik
doesnt have good backups for lineup and limited ammo

i dont think pizzas are op, well maybe that 1.3 AA car
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>>243893728
Don't know why but for a very long time I was convinced Leclerc used a 140mm gun.
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>>243894043
>so am I autistic
yes
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>>243893916
>frog calling literally anyone orc
lol
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>>243894043
Why not just play Arma or Squad and actually do all of that?
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Anyone that can translate?
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>>243894358
There is a working Leclerc with a 140mm called Terminateur, it did test firing back in 2016 and was exposed to the public in 2017.
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>>243894442
>You have to be a frog to like a french tank
Mutt hours already?
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>>243894513
>because goats like you all and lose asshole
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>>243894678
To be fair Gaijin should have introduced a way to damage autoloaders when they came out, L40T would probably be lower if that mechanic was in.
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>>243894513
>it's because of dumbassess like you entire teams have to lose
>fag
>piss off
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>>243894457
I used to play arma2 and 3 with friends and always loved crewing vehicles with them, I whish I could go back in time and do it again
>>243894381
at least I'm having fun so I guess autism isn't that bad
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>Spawn
>Go cap B point
>Hold it for ages
>Get bombed
>Okay
>Spawn again
>Drive out of spawn for one second
>Killed by a spawncamping Frenchman
>Okay
>Respawn in plane
>Blow him up in his spawn camping area
>Get shot down
>Respawn
>Get bombed as soon as I leave spawn
Wow.
This game fucking sucks shit.
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>>243895114
There's always people driving transports in 3 coop or KOTH servers. Nothing stopping you from doing it again.
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>>243894678
>you have to be a mutt to despise fr*Nchies
oh the irony
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>>243895324
So you're a germ*noid slav-turkish mutt?
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>>243895618
we're not playing cluedo, sperg
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>One disadvantage of the Jumbo was a bad to mediocre armament
>That one disadvantage has been rectified
Very cool.
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>>243895236
>1.5k hours logged in arma 3 and 200h in arma 2
>ALL of it with friends
>try playing something by myself
>feels empty as fuck, get bored after 10 minutes
I'd rather be autistic in WT than feel the bottomless emptiness again
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>>243894967
me on the bottom right
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>>243895803
Do you only play WT with friends or only do the BMP with friends? Just hop on an active server and shoot the shit while flying/driving.
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>>243893728
at least post the real one.
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>>243895952
no, I used to play arma with friends, I don't anymore since a year ago or so, war thunder by myself, tried playing arma by myself but can't because it feels empty without friends and it mentally hurts
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>>243878371
>le 152mm BL-10
this shit gives nightmares to enemies in Vomit of Tanks
I want it
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>>243870207
is this the american Dicker Max?
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>>243897151
Swiss TD
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>mozdok
>full downtier in a IS-4
>hardly anything can reliably pen me, especially after many tanks suffered nerf to penetration against sloped armor
>tfw I AM the final boss
is there any better feeling?
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>>243894923
>>243894974
I'm pretty sure he was the M41 that spent the entire game shooting me with his MG's for no reason.
What a fucking autismo.
Thanks.
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>mutts seething
best timeline!
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>>243897823
Can you imagine Pacifica of all people saying that "staff is patient with the community" when the stupid cunt is so ban happy it's ridiculous that he's still on the staff team
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>>243897823
>meanwhile mutts are still dominating tier V and VI
>abram still outclass every tank
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>>243898045
B-but it's useless now!
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>>243895184
spawn in a fighter and dab on CASiggers
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>>243897823
whats with the M1 Abrams crying? didn't the M774 shell actually got better penetration at 60 degrees?
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>>243898939
mutts don't have the brain capacity to understand that
they stop reading after the first number they find in the chart
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OUT OF ALL THE FUCKING VEHICLES YOU CAN GIVE ME TALISMANS FOR YOU GIVE IT TO THE SAu 40 GAIJIN ARE YOU FOR REAL ??????????????????????? FUCK THIS GAME
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>>243898939
I think M735 is a bit worse now, but M774 is much better.
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>>243897823
>literally delusion from all the racemixing
LOL
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>>243898939
Top tier got slightly more balanced with the new pen values and that frightens the eternal mutt. It fears the days of 3 abrams tanks, zulu and ATGM jets clubbing are over so it lashes out, it attacks everything it can only to have its brown nose clipped and thrown away
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>italy 3 times in a row

NO NO NO I FUCKING REFUSE CREW LOCK ME
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>>243899769
Go away Misha, we need break from the shilling
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>>243899854
based and muttpilled
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>>243865135
could they do that before the patch? I have both M1s spaded and never had the feeling of having been fucked through a cheek
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>>243872495
because they get slower after their engine burns out after a second or so, and rely on kinetic energy for penetration. The HEAT rockets don't loose penetration
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>>243872495
>>243871858
>Why do some HE rounds lose pen over distance and some don't?
>Why do some fucking rockets lose penetration? That's the real question
Can you give me an example?
The british for example have, I shit you not, solid shot rockets(and SAPHE too).
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In for what

Don't fucking lie to me again, you said the Vickers would be shit but it's actually my favourite British tank so far.
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>>243900310
shit
>fuckhuge
>slow
>mantlet can be penned by a fucking Pz.IV
>slow ass reload
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>>243900445
So it's gonna be amazing like the Vickers. Got it.
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>>243900310
Whoever said Vickers is shit is a moron as that thing is one of the fastest Brit tanks at its tier and it also has the fastest reload. It's probably the best tank at its tier for brits, but Conq is just shit. You should have Conway already if you went by BRs and that should tell you how shit it is. 120mm APDS is trash and not even HESH reliably kill stuff while there's also the RoF. You will do 99% of the matches better in a a Vickers even if you take it to 7.3, where Conq.
>>243900534
No, it won't you idiot, that's the whole point of that guy's post. Vickers has plenty of stuff going for it while Conq doesn't. It downright trades a decent gun for a shit one that has a long reload, but unlike Tiger 105 for example (you trade some pen for the reliable killing power), the 120mm APDS/HESH doesn't have the one shot potential. Conq has nothing going for it, just stick to Mk.10 and Vickers, you're at the end of the british good stuff anyway
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>>243900445
>>243900697
Nice try falseflagging germs and slaves.
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>>243900310
>le epic contrarian
>>>/r/NAMBLA
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>>243900310
As someone who mainlines the bongs for some fucking reason god please save me from this prison I've made for myself , the conq is is kind of a piece of shit. You consistently see Leos and other tanks with HEATFS which cuts right through you. If you can manage to only see things at your BR or lower, and get hull down, you can be kind of hard to kill. The ammo is no better than the vickers, but your reload is 3x as long now. You're slow as balls too, so you are stuck with sniping at about 2k with your god awful optics. Oh, and if you think the HESH is good, think again. These are all from the same game in a Conq firing nothing but HESH at the germans
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>>243900819
You're right, Conq is awesome, don't listen to those idiots. Take the Conquer out and you'll fucking club with it.
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>>243900310
Not that bad, but i prefer Conway. It has overlapping armor in most of turret front which stops 88 and 128 even at close ranges
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>>243900819
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Think Im doing shit in T80 so I check my stats
>almost 2.5kpd
How? I always get fucked in first 2 minutes
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>>243901382
Remember Anon. No matter how retarded you think you are - there are always many more, bigger retards out there.
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>he waits for others before caping
lol
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>tanklets
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so what changed in practice in top tier with the ammo changes?
>type90 cant penetrate challenger turret anymore
>leopard2a4 cant penetrate abrams turret anymore (?)
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>>243902250
Nothing. you aimed for the mantlet before, and you still do it now

>>243902012
>posted from my dead gamemode
LOLE
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>vietnam
>crtl alt delete, kill game
>restart
>crewlocked
was i not fast enough or did they "fix" that as well?
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>>243903049
it never worked for me.
I always got asked if I wanted to rejoin, and upon picking no I got the crewlock.
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>>243903049
You weren't fast enough. You need to have task manager already open with WT selected so you can just alt+tab and kill the game the second you see a shit map loading.
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In for what?
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>>243905489
Fuck you
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>>243905489
Best SPAA in the game until you get 8.0 radar SPAA.
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>>243905489
GLORY
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>>243905489
What a lucky cunt
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Does the Ki-200 have air spawn? What it does have atleast is a turbojet engine sound.
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>2000+19
>People still find it funny to bring some shitty BR 1.0 plane into a jet game
>OHNO XD HAVE MERCY PLOX XDDDD
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>>243906326
It has airfield start like the Me 163, no idea what the second part of your question is
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>>243905489
you motherfucker, you
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>>243906576
As in the engine sounds like a turbojet engine and not a rocket jet engine.
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>>243906504
You're lucky you still have teamkill so you can kill those cunts, with tanks you can't do that and it's even worse now that italians outspeed all reserves yet morons still bring M22s and BT-5s in the high tier matches even though they are almost never the first to the cap
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Imagine having spent 2000 euros on this game.
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https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/442599-server-update-120218/&tab=comments#comment-7993251
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let's play a round of what tank is this. Any guesses?
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>>243907306
type 90
ez
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>>243907306
ipm1
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>>243907425
the normal M1 but you can't really tell the difference if nothing distinctive is rendered.
Jokes aside, what the fuck is this? I have this issue since a month or so, the game will turn transparent (i can suddenly see my desktop/browser or whatever else is open behind it) for a few seconds, i tab out and back in and then everything's fucked. Everything further than a couple meters away looks like snow and tanks either have a ridiculously low polygon look or are complete artefacts like the webm.

Only happens every couple days but still annoying
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>>243907370
fuck me you're right >>243907425
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>>243907567
dying video card
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>>243907993
doubt it. Sure, it's old, but it handles more demanding stuff without any problems
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>>243908059
I said dying video card, shithead
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>>243908163
and how would that result in fucked up stuff in war thunder, a game that can be ran on a pocket calculator from 1985, and no problems whatsoever in battlefield 4 or the witcher 3?
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aw yis
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Recently unlocked the AMX-30B2 and had a couple of games with it. It sucks and should be 8.0 at most. The lack of a stabilizer nearly kills this tank in my eyes.
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>>243908242
dying video cards do weird shit
my last card started making these 4x4 pixel grids that shined with lens flare in war thunder before it went up in smoke, literally
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>>243907053
>Penetration value calculation has been corrected for the following rounds: 125mm 3BM9, 100mm Obus de rupture.
>100mm Obus de rupture now has 293mm pen at 100m
Lorraine 40t and AMX-50 at 7.7 when?
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>>243909187
eh, i sure hope it's not that, don't want to buy something new considering how the market looks right now
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>>243907567
Every update I have to reduce my graphics setting slightly to stay at 60 FPS.
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>>243899438
It's ok talismans are worthless anyway. Until they give +100% sl gain i could care less about talismans lmao.
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>>243909656
i have everything at max except shit like grass while scoped in, am using a 1440p monitor and have the FPS capped to 80. Sticks there, despite me using a 5 year old R9 290
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when ?
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>>243909341
>still can't pen Tiger 2 UFP reliably at point blank
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Create new thread
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>>243910702
no
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>>243910005
we genuinely need SAMs right now
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>>243812648
The jokes on Gaijin. I don't even play Jets.
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>gunner is first to die every shot I get hit by
>no matter where the shell hit
hmm why would this be
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Spitfire IX, I-225 or Yak-15/17 for 6.7 GF fighter?
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>>243907567
You on an AMD card? If so which one
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>>243913682
R9 290
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>>243910005
What exactly am I looking at here, equipment-wise? ATGMs? Can't be SAMs, they're way too small, aren't they?
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>>243913586
He's too fat, obviously.
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>sands of sinai
>camping on hill has no visual penalty as on ground
epic
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>>243910005
After something more sensible, I hope.
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>>243914807
They are manpads, the norks love bolting them on anything and everything during parades
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>>243911786
those SA18 iglas would be pretty useless though
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Who ready for this?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/803980/Plane_Mechanic_Simulator/

shit looks really good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_DsarFCnC4
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>>243915475
>manpads
On vehicles? Seriously?
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>>243914250
Your card is fine
Its the game that doesnt support AMD(sponsored by nvidia )) )
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>>243916342
considering this problem only started appearing a month or so ago i doubt that. Other nvidia sponsored titles work fine too

>>243916014
just fixing up planes or also flying them?
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>>243916014
Color me intrigued.
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>>243916342
not true, my RX570 runs just fine
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>>243916014
>propshit only
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>>243916426
early access page says that its mainly going to be repairing aircraft that return from missions and their priority is going to be improving the mechanics , eventually adding more planes , and then maybe flying them.

you can sight and shoot the guns to get correct convergence though which owns
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>>243916467
My RX580 hangs for a second on black screen and recovers. Only in Warthunder and no other more intensive game
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>>243916936
oops
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>>243916014
>https://store.steampowered.com/app/407130/Tank_Mechanic_Simulator/
but why stop there ?
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>>243917370
extremely EXTREMELY hyped for this

but it got delayed

playway games is also publishing this game


https://store.steampowered.com/app/494840/UBOAT/

They are publishing all the military sim games now it seems
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>>243916014

this is so dumb...
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>start at the completely wrong angle on a bumpy as fuck runway
quality runways are racist)))))))))
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>>243918735
>start with the T95 right in front of a wall, facing away from the way out of the spawn
Sure, not like I was planning on going anywhere.
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>>243918735
>spawn in a tree as a TD
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>>243919707
lazy cunts
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