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smug bestgirl edition
also most popular Bloodborne boss edition
Last time on /bbg/: >>243307276

>New players read this then finish the game without spoilers:
https://i.imgur.com/1OynzXF.png

>Helpful Links:
-/bbg/ Resource Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlAjZSvmE979gbayTvpioT72n5A7_bUjMNCLuOatJTQ
-Wiki: http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/
-Build planner: https://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
-Multiplayer range calculator: https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/
-AR calculator: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Klz0V7xCDyfbuGMoi0zGNAyL_VT5TUS6WiUme_uB9Rg/

>Chalices:
-How to unlock FRCs for spelunks, fight clubs & gem farming: https://i.imgur.com/0AwN4Lo.jpg
-Gem farming chalices: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU
-Lost/uncanny weapons, runes, and gems: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4
-How to summon/invade in a chalice: https://pastebin.com/mjRU01XK
-Edited chalices: https://i.imgur.com/3nibNFD.png (Unused bosses, test areas, early runes/weapons)

>PVE - Spelunking (Every Friday 6pm ET/11pm UTC plus anytime someone wants to host):
-Spelunks happen, join 'em, host 'em
-Set the chalice to Open and region to Worldwide
-Leave bell-ringing women alone for invaders

>PVP - Fight Club (Every Saturday 6pm ET/11pm UTC plus impromptus whenever):
-Rules: https://i.imgur.com/ihd176b.jpg
-Pthumeru: 7hjhf43b
-Loran: jjpkdcgd
-Isz: 9v8qndas
-2v2 Arena (Sinister Ihyll): ssf94fyb

>FAQ:
Q: Where do I get/put the best gems? A: http://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/best-blood-gems-setups.html
Q: How do I setup arcane builds? A: https://i.imgur.com/73dnuUm.jpg
Q: How do I access the DLC? A: https://i.imgur.com/XaRuxgF.png
Q: Did I miss a quest? A: https://i.imgur.com/Uzg8XI6.png
Q: Is this game active for coop and pvp? A: Yes
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>>243624258
First for spiderking
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Don't use this thread.
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gratia smash
smash beast till dead
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>>243624258
Can we add this to the OP:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12mBIId1RRGbYiSEGjEUT9fquQrHNgfET9Fc4gDdmccs/edit?usp=sharing
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So what's your opinion on the (Established) fact that LM is literally TOH's posterchild and the most popular Bloodborne boss?
I think it's not surprising to be quite honest.
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>>243624647
Let's not do this lads. You are more than beastly idiots.
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Anons, stop feeding the baitfag. Please.
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>>243624794
>/bbg/ not taking the bait
I've been here for three and a half years or some shit and it has been a constant that /bbg/ is stupid when it comes to this. I appreciate what you're doing, but it's not going to work.
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>>243625056
Objectively better non-bait thread, use this one please.
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>>243625056
>>243625237
>threadwars
Fuck off nigger.
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so are we using this one or what
who cares about OP, remember when we had a vileblood edition thread?
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>>243625056
>>>/dsg/
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>>243625267
There's no war, an autistic manchild newfag got mad when people insulted his shitty waifu and decided to shit the general up too.
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>>243625056
>putting out ultimatums threatening harm
Go absolutely fuck yourself. Spoiled brats like you will never acquire anything by force.
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>>243625056
>>243625237
Lmao /bbg/ tearing over waifufags. Get over the shitposts anons.
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>>243625056
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>marianigger got mad when people called him buzzwords
>he's now using those same buzzwords
No wonder /bbg/ is in this miserable state.
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>>243625056
I choose gassing shitposting threadwars cuckolds and bipartisan discordshitters and deporting /dsg/fags.
>>243625682
>anyone talking or posting a bloodborne boss is designated avatarfag
You're grasping at straws here.
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>>243625765
I'm not calling every Mariafag ENBnigger, he literally made a big post about coming back. But of course, you would know that already because you definitely read the threads, right?
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Ahh... ahh... please.. help us... ahh... an unsightly beast... a great terror looms...
...bbg is tearing apart over worthless trivial waifufag wars[/spoiler[
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I guess we're using this thread since it has more posters?
FRC Loran spelunk
glyph: ksptmjpw
pass: bbg7
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>>243626231
Post in the other one
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>>243625056
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>>243626231
A spelunk sounds so good right now.
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>>243626231
got 1
will wait 3 more mins
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>>243626924 see >>243625056
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>>243626231
FULL
invaders welcome
BL80 host
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>>243627086
This thread was created first. Deal with it.
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lmao whats even the point of this thing existing
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>>243627086
Sorry bud I don't have personal beef with some pixels on a screen in my favourite video game.
Go fuck yourself, thank you.
And feel free to take off the "true scotsman/nonshitposter" mask anytime.
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>>243627220
It's another one Archibald's masterpieces you ungrateful fuck.
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>>243627220
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>>243627371
Keep fuelling shitposting, newfag.
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>>243627679
Where's the shitposting.
Kindly point it to me, I doubledare you.
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I like Lady Maria!
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>>243627973
>stuttercheesers
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>>243626231
Layer 1 report
>small premain with clear deep sea rune
>we accidentally kill the bell maiden who was hiding in a gondola gang or something
>standard loran long cave with ladders and alcoves
>no preboss
>boss was abho
onto L2
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>>243627679
>>243627856
>No response
Figured as much.
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>>243628241
The bell maiden got killed by a BPS I believe
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>>243627856
>if I pretend I can't see it, it must mean there isn't any
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>>243628496
I see it perfectly, it's some niggerfaggot bipartisan flinging shit at artwork and any kind of discussion about a boss from the video game this general is about and created a new thread while making a childish threat to kill this general if people don't move.
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>seething this hard over Lady Maria
I don't get it, why and how?
What's the morality behind this shit?
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How many people platinum'd the game here?
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>>243629941
How the fuck did you manage to do that?
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>>243630239
there's a glitch that lets one of these bros survive
you can take him to the LM bossfight
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>>243630205
Not yet, need to kill Queen Yharnam.
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>>243630413
That's cool, how do I replicate the glitch though?
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>>243630205
100% it and I still suck.
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I liked the living failures more than all the other old hunters bosses
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I KNEW THIS GUY WAS SKETCHY QJWJDIEJEOCM3OVO
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>>243630820
BASED AND KINPILLED BROTHER.
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>deleted
finally.
Based mods.
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>404'd
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>>243628241
Layer 2 report
>premain with some madmen, a beast claw (presumed) hunter and blooming coldblood flower
>main layer room with pthus and clerics kill the unfortunate, yet careless, host
>a few more casualties in main layer and preboss which had mostly red spiders, madmen, gondola gangs and ritual materials in it
>"boss" was silverbeast
onto L3
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>>243630995
abbo's gonna fuck you up son, probably the most difficult mob you'll encounter
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>>243625056
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>>243630820
Best soundtrack after Ludwig's of course
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>>243631120
Julia.. I don't feel so good..
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Oh-hoh!
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>>243631140
Cheesed him with Molotovs lol

It kind of sucks you can't tell Chapel Bro it wasn't his fault the old lady died. It's my first playthrough if you couldn't tell
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>>243631683
Yea with molotovs he's a stroll in the park. But without it fucking hell killed me more than crowsteel (you'll know when you see him). Also he's blind. That's why he doesn't know it's the abbo that killed the old dear.
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>>243632030
>chapelcreep blind
That's what he wants you to believe. Meanwhile he's giving Oedon's seed to your household whore.
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>>243632030
Dang that's sad

Also should I "No way fag" this whore or do I accept her blood?
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>>243632278
>he doesn't want to be friends with chapel bro
Cringe and beastpilled.
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>>243632403
Accept, but I'd be wary.
Beware of the pious, prying eyes.
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>>243632397
Why respond to bait then? Do your part and just report, or better yet, ignore.
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>>243632513
>haha the inscence keeps the beasts away
>not the influence of the blood god haha
>granny an hero'd, the nun went insane and the whore birthed demonspawn?
>haha it wasnt me
>totally
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>>243632691
Fuck it I'll accept her blood only because I've been feeling lonely lately.
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>>243633376
>the whore birthed demonspawn?
That sounds hot.
>243633570
>her blood is similar indeed, to precisely what was once forbidden.
Okay now I'm starting to have second regrets.
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>>243632971
4channel jannies come from the same website as the newfags in these general, reporting doesn't work.
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>>243634080
Remain wary of the frailty of men. Their wills are weak, minds young
Were it not for fear, death would go unlamented
Seek the old blood
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>>243631120
Layer 3 report
>no premain
>confusing main layer with clerics and beast patients, a sleeping bepis guards a door that doesn't open from this side
>preboss with a scourge beast knocking 2 of us down to our deaths in the room below, with one more casualty to follow shortly thereafter
>GoW in a chest, useless since it was free on ps+ a while back
>boss is Amy who goes down after a few casualties
Thanks for joining me Iszaac and Grey, dungeon was kind of mediocre but I had fun, hope you did too!
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Thanks Julia and Grey for the journey. Too bad Amy's abyssal had the hp curse. May you find your worth in the waking world.
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>>243634762
Thanks for hosting, only now realized I had 3 eye runes on.
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I haven't played this game in ages, and tonight I feel like helping newfriends. Where do I go to get summoned for Logarius?
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Imagine being anything but a confederate
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>>243635415
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>Tfw PSN is down and your gem farm grinds to a halt
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>>243636295
It isn't.
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>>243636404
It is for me
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>>243636572
that sucks man.
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>>243636572
Thank God for Baldur's Gate.
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>>243636782
>Baldur's Gate
My nigga.
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>>243636572
Despite the map I'm co-oping in west eu.
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>>243637035
I wonder if the PS4 release will have custom soundset and portrait support. Pretty hype to find out.
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>>243628954
4chan posters love to be contrarians. If a character is popular with what we think are ''normies'' then it must be shit.
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>>243628954
It's literally one guy blowing up the thread.

He does it every time. He blows up the thread over something retarded, then claims everyone else is as fault for the disruption.
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Mods/jannies, just ban every cunt that continues to meta-post. Nuke me too if need be, just do your fucking job and cleanse these tarnished streets.
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>>243638541
Shitposters all over the shop. You'll be one of them soon enough.
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>>243635806
>imagining in the 1st place
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>>243630590
I think it's just random, time it somehow so one spawns when the fight is over or just about to end. It's happened to me like 2-3 times in maybe 50 kills
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Reposting my shitpost OC. Please tell me there are E fans in /bbg/.

Woke up quick at about noon
Just thought that I had to be in Yharnam soon
Gotta get blood-drunk before the hunt begins
Before Gehrman starts dreaming about his friends

About to go and damn near got brained
Yharnamites in the square shouting "away, away!"
Ran through the house and pulled the lever
With the townspeople hit with some kinda fever

Then I let the music box play
Bumping some tune that kept daddy at bay
It was "BEASTS BEASTS" at the top of the list
Then I had my own dream it went something like this

Strolling through the streets of Hemwick Lane
Visceralin' the witches
Pebblin' the crows
Went to the forest to get the loot
Snakeheads down there kept poisonin' too

A carriage rolled up, who can it be
A guy from Cainhurst saying "I summon thee"
He opened up the door and he started to say
"Fear the old blood, as Willem would say"
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you're a skilled shitposter
adept, merciless, half-cut with memes
as the best shitposters are
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>>243639604
I liked the original draft better.

>>243639816
Wrong.

It's "Skilled poster. Adept, merciless, half-cut with shit".

You guys can't even fuck up a thread right.
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which is why I must stop you
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By the gods, Laurence...
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>>243631501
heh executioners are FAT and UGLY haha
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A great terror looms...
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aghhhh Laurence
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>>243640140
Help me improve the draft, friend.
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>>243641000
checked
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All these maria fags... We know who's the best girl here.
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>>243646000
Why did they give her such deliciously supple lips brehs
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I got the cannon expecting to do massive damage and such, but it barely does any.

Am I just supposed to use it at point-blank range or something?
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>>243646812
If your going for a BT build and lube it up with bone marrow ash, you've got a devastating meme weapon.
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Welp, this fucker is pure cancer.

>Infinite Black Sky Eye spam
>Infinite A Call Beyond
>Infinite Augur of Ebrietas
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>>243647023
I'm like lvl 70 right now with base BT, is that why I'm sucking so bad with it?
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>>243641027
That's legit unnerving.
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>>243647586
Yep. Utter shite weapon.
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Any PVP wizard here? I need some advice and/or webms to learn the secrets of the Kirkhammer.
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>>243649443
I miss when BB was new. So much wonder, mystery, especially when Old Hunter released

Cant believe it's almost 4 years
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>>243648201
press and hold R2
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>>243649963
I'm still waiting for that 2nd DLC.
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>>243650378
Expect BB2 for PS5 I guess.

Probably Spring 2021 at the earliest.
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>>243624375
ALL HAIL THE SPIDERKING
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I enjoy posting with you guys.
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>>243651114
me too fren
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>>243650553
> Expect BB2
never ever
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>>243651970
Don't crush our fragile hopes. I will wait. For as long as it takes, I will wait.
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>>243651970
Just another few years.
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>>243654004
Hope I don't die by then.
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>>243630205
I got the collect all hunter tools trophy last night, all that's left is collect all weapons and I've got the platinum.
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I finally did it bros. I cleared all of the chalice dungeons, now I can be a coop bro
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>>243654184
imagine how many /bbg/ers will have died between games.
I'll toast to their madness and patiently await Master Miyazaki to deliver us to our nightmare.
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>>243630462
I am a mobile posting shit-cunt, but I found someone said how to kill Yarn Ham early via this route.
Have fun lad.
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>>243655282
Good Hunter, you've done well, the night is near its end.
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>Annalise's forbidden blood came from Queen Yharnam
>Queen Yharnam chosen to carry oldbabby
>Arianna is related to Annalise SOMEHOW
>similar names
>chosen to carry oldbabby

Annalise had at least one child of the blood and it was Arianna.
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>keep replaying bb over and over
>ds3 is so fuck-boring I can't stand to replay it even once

am I insane?
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>>243658192
She was consuming blood dregs so that she becomes fertile candidate to birth this "Child of Blood". We know she's got corrupted blood, and so does Arianna. Arianna birthed a celestial child, and got impregnanted presumably by Oedon as a lot of his runes come from around Oedon Chapel. He has a lot of influence there. This may explain why we never witness Annalise give birth to the child, as she isn't in proximity to Oedon.
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>>243658648
PvE in DaS 3 isn't bad as so many make it out to be. I agree though, BB's much better and superior in many ways. Only thing it has is it's PvP now.
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>>243658845

Yes, so it's my theory that the "child of blood" Annalise talks of is a vessel for the Great One's child, in this case, Oedon, which happens every blood moon.

Arianna is Annalise's "child of blood", a direct descendant by blood of queen Yharnam, who birthed (or was supposed to) the pthumerian great one's child.

The woman chosen isn't random, but a scion of a bloodline that moved from Queen Yharnam to Annalise via the "forbidden blood" ie. queen Yharnam's blood, and then to Annalise's child, Arianna.
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>>243659347
>>Only thing it has is it's PvP now.
I meant relative to DaS 3, PvP is all that it is left. Wasn't Namco forcing their hand anyway to make more Souls? It was bound to happen.
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>>243658192
I don't know how you make the leap of logic of saying that Arianna is Annalise's daughter.
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>>243659615
Because Annalise is heavily theorised to have gotten her "forbidden blood" from Queen Yharnam via the Brygenwerth traitor, and we know that Q.Y's blood is powerful as fuck, which is likely why she was chosen during the blood moon to carry the child.

Arianna is also a vileblood, descendant of Annalise and is chosen to carry the child this time around. Not a huge leap to think that the chosen is not random, but comes from one bloodline. One to which they all belong.
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>>243658845
What a qt
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>>243659913
What is the Burgertown Traitor?
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>>243660264

The burgertime traitor is the one who took/stole the forbidden blood to Cainhurst in the first place. No idea who that was but it seems they were doing the will of Oedon in reviving the Pthumerian bloodlines in Cainhurst.
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>>243659271
There's nothing really suggesting Arianna as her daughter. And doesn't she remark, along with the hunter, that they are the last two vilebloods to exist on earth? Most likely she was a close relative , that for whatever reason managed to grow up in Yharnam for most if not all her life. Maybe in the ensuing chaos and massacre at Cainhurst, young Arianna was fled to Yharnam to take refuge. Growing up she never realised her true nature, which is why she is so indifferent to hand you over her seemingly corrupt blood. Annalise locked off from the world presumed every last one of her ilk was KIA by the time we meet her.
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>>243659913
There was never a Byrgenwerth traitor. It was just a guy who decided to go his way and found Kos
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>>243659913
I agree with 95% of what you say, because it's what the game already states. But saying that Arianna is Annalise's daughter is pure headcanon, there's nothing in the lore even hinting at it.

In fact, the very idea goes against the themes of that particular storyline, that is, that ironically Odeon chose the lowly prostitute with royal (though tainted) blood rather than the queen of the Vilebloods herself. Arianna's family tree in this case doesn't matter because that isn't the point of the story. We know she's a Vileblood descendant and that's it.

In fact, Annalise's goal wouldn't make sense if she already had a child of blood in the form of Arianna. It's the thing she desires above all else, having a child already would make her whole quest moot.

If you want kooky theories consider the possibilty that Arianna is Maria'sdaughter or something.
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>>243660662
She calls the hunter "last of our kind" which makes no real sense to me because there are two of them in that conversation. Even if she discounts herself, there are other vilebloods at least because Arianna is one, and possibly Maria because she's still alive in some sense.

What suggests to me that Arianna is the daughter is her being chosen to carry the baby. It seems a massive coincidence that it might happen to Queen Yharnam...and then also the closest living figure to Queen Yharnam. We know that there is no other bearer if Arianna dies, too. All signs point to her as being very close to Queen Yharnam, and there is an obvious blood link if she is Annalise's child.
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>>243660997
>95% of what you say is in the game

Then why do you call it such a stretch, and ridicule it so much?

>In fact, the very idea goes against the themes of that particular storyline, that is, that ironically Odeon chose the lowly prostitute with royal (though tainted) blood rather than the queen of the Vilebloods herself.

>with royal blood

so saying she is a daughter of Annalise DOESN'T go against the themes. Besides, when was this a "theme" before you needed to aggrandise it just now?

Annalise's goal is made tragic in this sense, perhaps, rather than moot. She seeks to birth a child of blood by sequestering herself off and having people pay tribute, but in the end, it's the lowly whore she has nothing to do with that ends up bearing the child.

>I hate your theory, why not consider a more ludicrous one haha

I probably won't bother replying.
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>>243661479
Holy shit are lorefags all this fragile? It's just a game bro. They're all just pixels bro.
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>>243660662

Not every Cainhurst noble is a "vileblood". Like not all Yharnamites are "hunters"
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>>243661601
>sling shit
>get it back
>bro, bro, fragile, bro!
I haven't seen a "UMAD" this salty since 2009. Good job, I guess.
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>>243661087
She capitalizes the pronouns "We", "Our", and such. I don't quite remember where I read this on a previous thread I'm slightly drunk lul but it's royalty speak. She's referring to herself in actuality.
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>>243661805
Not the same guy bro
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>>243661945

Even so, >>243661647 is right. You might be the last vileblood, but vilebloods are a sect within Cainhurst society, not all of society itself. They're the direct servants of the queen sent out to get her blood dregs.

Arianna isn't a vileblood. You say she was a close relative...and so do I. I just assume her to be a little closer, I think, because it makes more sense as to why Arianna was chosen.
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>>243661479
>She seeks to birth a child of blood by sequestering herself off and having people pay tribute, but in the end, it's the lowly whore she has nothing to do with that ends up bearing the child.
You are literally repeating what I just said.

What you said in the beginning was that Arianna is Annalise's daughter and I replied saying that there is literally no basis or hint for that in the game.

And it would definitely contradict her whole character and questline. She wants a child of blood (whatever that entails) at all costs, but why would she if she already had one? Wouldn't she at least mention that she had a daughter that was taken from her/escaped? Wouldn't it make more sense for her quest to be to find her missing daughter instead of delivering her blood dredgs?
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>>243662136
In addition, I believe that Annalise got her blood from Queen Yharnam because A. It would have been the only blood forbidden by the church, likely because of its power and potency, and B. Because Annalise has different dialogue when you open the Pthumeru Ihyll dungeons up. She says:

"We await thy return…
This chamber was made not for one alone…
For the honour of Cainhurst."

Though I have no idea what that's supposed to mean.
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>>243662315
>I replied saying that there is literally no basis or hint for that in the game.
Arianna is chosen to bear the great one's child. Like Queen Yharnam. It links them both, and the only visible path is through Annalise's bloodline. Granted, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean daughter, but it surely can, which is what you are avoiding.

>And it would definitely contradict her whole character and questline. She wants a child of blood
She wants to bear the child of Oedon, or whatever great one stumps up the babby when the blood moon comes in. That is different to having a mortal daughter. presumably she has had other children because she is immortal, and there are tons of Cainhurst nobles who are alive and desperate to talk about how close they are to the queen in lineage.

If you have no children, ever, then....nobody could ever claim to be close to you in lineage, ever, and that line would make zero sense.
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>>243661945
>>243662136
Eh I dunno I always assumed vilebloods as in the direct relatives, besides two of which we encounter have similarities in appearance.
Anyways bros would've loved a spelunk but fuck me ir's getting late so good night. Enjoy your lore discussions and lets not make a fucking mess like last time eh?
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>>243662710
>dat ass
It's rather.....rapturous...
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>>243662710
The vilebloods were just random people that miyazaki rammed into the game in order to justify putting castle cainhurst in the game. The lore was then jammed in to make some vague sense
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>>243663194
Cainhurst was supposed to be tge Mensis headquarters at first because micolash has puppets that closely resemble cainhurst knights.
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>>243662690
>Granted, that doesn't NECESSARILY mean daughter, but it surely can, which is what you are avoiding.
I'm not avoiding anything, I'm outright telling you that there's no evidence in-game for your theory and that it's pure headcanon.

>That is different to having a mortal daughter.
You're moving the goalposts, originally you said that Annalise already had a child of blood and that it was Arianna.

Look, if Arianna's parentage had some relevance to the plot then it would be brought up at some point. That's basic storytelling. As it stands that doesn't happen, so you have to take what the game gives you: Annalise, for all her status, power and bloodline ends up being ignored while ironically the common whore is chosen to bear the child of a god. Yes, they are related, but Arianna could be the daughter of a distant cousin or whatever. In regards to the storyline, it just doesn't matter. There's no need to overanalyze it. That's why I also think it's pointless how some people go crazy analyzing the paintings in the castle or whatever.
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>>243663515
That was just one version. They made cainhurst before they fleshed out the whole game.
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>O Flora, of the moon, of the dream. O little ones, O fleeting will of the ancients... Let the anon be safe, let him find comfy threads. And let this board, his captor... foretell a pleasant awakening... be, one day, a fond, distant browser history...
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>>243656072
Oh-hoh! Cheers friend.
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What a shitty thread. Fitting for /bbg/
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>>243666093
A time and space far away, lost to memory and meme
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>>243627220
Demolishing the assholes of the Great Ones, of course
It's a giant anal bead
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I'll tell you the problem with waifuniggers here and now. They are a disease; a pestilence that must be not given attention or even the passing notion of acknowledgement otherwise they will grow and thrive off of said attention. They're parasites and I know that I may not be around as much as I should be but the least I can do as an oldfag is remind you that waifuniggers are not people like us, think of them as subhuman.
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>>243664195
>Look, if Arianna's parentage had some relevance to the plot then it would be brought up at some point.

Because bloodborne always handholds you on plot matters, doesn't it?
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>>243664195
>Arianna could be the daughter of a distant cousin or whatever

How? Annalise is presumably a lot older than any of her court, if she's immortal. Maria could have been because she died a long time ago, but Arianna is a young woman.
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>>243664195
Oedon chooses Queen Yharnam when the blood moon rises to bear his child. Annalise has the parasitic blood of Yharnam in her, making her the blood descendant of Queen Yharnam, and she is obsessed with bearing the "child of blood" a k a the blood moon baby.

Blood moon hits and Arianna, a close relative of Annalise, gets pregnant. Ergo, she must have the same powerful blood, ergo, she has a direct link to queen Yharnam. mergo, she may be the daughter of Annalise, whose bloodline is that of queen yharnam, and the one strong enough to bear the child.

Unless you choose to think it's all coincidence.
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>243673897
copycat poster, it's just not the same
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Reminder that Vilebloods aren't people and they deserve what they got.
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>>243682335
THE ASHEN BLOOD EPIDEMIC WAS A FALSE FLAG
DON'T TRUST BIG MINISTRATIA
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Mensis is not real. It's a hoax, made for us to believe that the Healing Church moved over their detractors to someplace. In reality, all these dissidents were loaded off the altars into the Labyrinth, dying before they could see the waking world ever again. It's a coverup for one of the greatest mass murders in history, made by one of the most prominent empires. Mensis does not exist. All things you call "proof" are actually well-fabricated lies and documents made by the leading vicars of the Church. Your Mensis friends? They're all actors and Resonant Bell-generated phantoms, part of the plot to trick Yharnam.If you think you've ever been to Mensis, you're terribly wrong. The Amygdala are all in on this, and have in all actuality only sent you to nightmares close nearby – or in some cases, parts of Yharnam, where they have cleared space and hired actors to act out as real Mensis scholars. Mensis is one of the biggest hoaxes ever created, and you have all been tricked. Join the movement today, and make it known that they have been deceived. Make it known, that this has all just been a cover-up. The things these "scholars" says to be doing, all these swear words and actions based on ascension, blood and bad decisions, are all ways to distract you from the ugly truth that is one of the greatest genocides in history. 162,000 people were said to have been transported to this imaginary school during a mere 80 years, and they are all long dead by now. They never reached that promised land. Tell the truth. Stand up for what is right. Make sure to spread the world – Mensis is not real. It's a codeword for the cold-blooded murder of more than a hundred thousand people, and it is not okay. We will not accept this.Stand up for the ones who died. Let it be known, that Mensis does not exist
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Started a new playthrough today after a few years of hiatus, last time I played with a quality build using the pizza cutter and Ludwig's blade and thought I'd change things a bit this time. Full SKL, full BLT or SKL/BLT?
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Fucking hyped for the blunderbuss tbqh lads
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>>243684145
Full bloodtinge will be a more different experience. Skill and strength are pretty similar in this game
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going on my 20th attempt at maria. her third phase keeps fucking me up
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Thanks to the anon last thread that helped me decide how to specialise for spelunking. Got a build written up and i'm happy with it.
May the good blood guide your way.
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>>243689194
Keep it up anon. I know you can do it.
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>>243689194
don't get too greedy, anon. She's a tricky one. Best of luck!
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LM figma announced
Looks pretty gud
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I love the Rifle Spear, I was so worried Bloodtinge might have been a boring build.
Are there any boring builds in Bloodborne?
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>>243673968
It doesn't, but it also isn't as vague as people make it out to be. That's why I said that I think there are a lot of ploints that are overanalyzed fruitlessly.

>>243674043
You didn't get my point, I'm just trying to say that Arianna's parentage simply isn't important, otherwise there'd be more focus on it in an item description or something. The game wants you to know she's related to the Vilebloods.

>>243674654
>Oedon chooses Queen Yharnam when the blood moon rises to bear his child
This is literally your invention. We don't have a record of how or when Queen Yharnam gets pregnant with Mergo. She was the queen of the Pthumerians and and the Pthumerians disappeared so long ago that their ruins are all underground and a city was built on top of them. We have no way to know that and, to top it off, the idea that the father was Oedon is another contentious idea.

>Blood moon hits and Arianna, a close relative of Annalise, gets pregnant. Ergo, she must have the same powerful blood, ergo, she has a direct link to queen Yharnam. mergo, she may be the daughter of Annalise, whose bloodline is that of queen yharnam, and the one strong enough to bear the child.
Dude, I already said that I agree with most of that, except the idea that Arianna is her daughter. We are going in circles.
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What's the lowest possible BL to make a solid conehead terminator Chikago build?
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>>243692871

>The game wants you to know she's related to the Vilebloods.
Yes, it does. The question is: why?

>This is literally your invention.

Hardly my invention. It's part of the storyline. Did you miss the presence of Yharnam at the blood moon rising? Or her standing outside Mergo's wet nurse boss? Or the blood down her front? Yharnam bore a great one's child and it failed. Do you dispute this? Also, it doesn't matter if the child is Oedon's or not. It's a great one's child.

>Dude, I already said that I agree with most of that, except the idea that Arianna is her daughter. We are going in circles.

We are. It seems that i'm not going to convince you of anything, and all you do is deny any possibility of discussion on the topic, so you're just reiterating what you *will* talk about.
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>knocking out my story chalices on this character
>1 hit away from killing defiled hotdog
>suddenly his paw collision box raises me up into the air
>as im falling he does his fire chomp combo and stunlocks me to death
>my face when
i swear to christ chalice bosses are actually sentient and will regularly cheat to kill you whenever they're about to lose by exploiting the game's jank in totally retarded ways
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Ok guys im planning on doing a lvl43 twink build using the burial blade. My question is if i should split it 25/25 vit and skill or if I should dump everything into vitality and rely on gems for the damage ? What do you think is more effective ?
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>>243693530
>Yes, it does. The question is: why?
I already explained that it serves the narrative. It reinforces the theme that the Great Ones are unknowable and difficult to comprehend for us. Oedon, in an act of cosmic irony, choses the whore over the queen. Annalise, for all her power, royalty and plans, is left by the wayside for reasons only a Great One can know. At the end of the night, no matter how many blood dredgs you feed Annalise with, the one womb blessed with child is Arianna's. Her parentage was never the a relevant part of the plot.

>Hardly my invention.
"Oedon chooses Queen Yharnam when the blood moon rises to bear his child". This is what you said and that is clearly your invention. Repat, Pthumerian civilization fell so long ago their ruins are all under the foundations of Yharnam. You have no evidence in-game of this.

>and all you do is deny any possibility of discussion on the topic
I'm not denying any discussion. In fact, I'm having one with you and explaining my point of view, which is that you're overnalyzing a rather simple plot.

Look, write up whatever you want. The other day a guy on leddit wrote that the Orphan of Kos was an Old Hunter that crawled up inside the corpse of Kos and mutated. I'm just gonna roll my eyes from now on because it's a lost cause.
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Holy fuck, I just realized that the howling wolves you hear during invasions point you to the general direction of the host.

>>243693737
Why not do the false depth chalices?
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>>243694083
> It reinforces the theme that the Great Ones are unknowable and difficult to comprehend for us. Oedon, in an act of cosmic irony
On that contrary, it makes them far EASIER to understand, if we apply such human concepts as irony and poetic justice to them. Besides, it could be literally ANY other reason. The fact that Annalise is bound, and might well be dead if you follow certain paths, at that point in the game. The fact that Arianna is inside Oedon's chapel, etc. Besides, it might not even BE Oedon. The one link we DO have is the blood link between Queen Yharnam, Annalise and Arianna. That is the ONLY solid link that exists.

>You have no evidence in-game of this.
If you're going to deny that a great one chose Yharnam to bear it's child and it failed, then I have nothing else to say. THIS IS DIRECTLY TOLD IN HUNTER'S NOTES, and the character model even has a bloody front to make it clear to you. If you want explicit explanations, then this is NOT the storyline for you. Try Dark Souls.

>I'm not denying any discussion. In fact, I'm having one with you and explaining my point of view, which is that you're overnalyzing a rather simple plot.

It's not a simple plot. There is a LOT of hidden shit. The fact that you think it's simple kind of belies the fact that maybe you aren't giving it enough consideration.

>some guy on reddit said...
I don't really care, but it would be neat to hear his juestification. because JUSTIFICATION is what matters.

>I'm just gonna roll my eyes from now on because it's a lost cause.

Dude, you sound like a smug prick, to be honest. I imagine in a few days you'll be on reddit, talking shit about this conversation because it's so much easier than trying to understand.

Out of interest, did you read the paleblood hunt? Seems like you didn't, if you're calling this a "simple" storyline.
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>>243694469
I haven't been following BB for about a year and just got back into it, only to learn about FDs now that I'm at Pthumeru 5.
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>>243694549
>did you read the paleblood hunt?
Not the guy you're arguing with, but you just lost all credibility dude. Paleblood Hunt is so basic it's laughable.
>Logarius is the leader of the Executioners because the item descriptions say so!
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>>243694850
Try it on a new character, it's a godsend.
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>>243692674
quality
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>>243695031
>but you just lost all credibility dude
What, by citing the work of another person? How? Also, why should I care?

>Paleblood Hunt is so basic it's laughable.
so it's basic, in your view. The guy i'm "arguing" with is claiming that bloodborne has a "simple plot", so it's probably too much for him.
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>>243691164
Whats figma?
>>243692674
I'm not sure actually.
>>243692936
Use Mugen in the OP to figure out what build gets 50Blt the quickest and use that one.
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>>243695031
>>Logarius is the leader of the Executioners because the item descriptions say so!
>never mind what the game says, explicitly, numerous times! MY HEADCANON IS REAL
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>>243693965
I would say Max vit and either use flat Arc gems or phys up.
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>>243695521
What the game says with its visuals/audio/gameplay is 1000x more important than what it says with its text.
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>>243694549
>That is the ONLY solid link that exists.
Exactly, the only one. There's nothing in-game saying that they're mother and daughter.

>and the character model even has a bloody front
So, blood on her dress: child of blood? Wut? Isn't the simplest explanation that Byrgenwerth agents removed her child forcefully by cutting her up?

>it's so much easier than trying to understand.
I understand perfectly what you are saying, and you are not as deep as you think. You just have a huge confirmation bias related to this headcanon of yours.

>read the paleblood hunt
I've read it, and it's not the Bloodborne gospel some people like to think it is.

>"simple plot", so it's probably too much for him.
Oh, no, I'm not saying that. You're twisting my words and moving the goalposts again. It's pretty complicated... in some parts. I'm just shooting your baseless theory down and it seems you can't deal with it.
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>>243695623
>What the game says with its visuals/audio/gameplay is 1000x more important than what it says with its text.
>audio

Like when Alfred literally calls him "Eminent Master Logarius"
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>>243695681
>Exactly, the only one. There's nothing in-game saying that they're mother and daughter.
>ONE
So how many links do you personally need? One is enough.

>So, blood on her dress: child of blood? Wut? Isn't the simplest explanation that Byrgenwerth agents removed her child forcefully by cutting her up?

If you're trying to deny that Queen Yharnam was intended to birth a great one's child, we're done here. It's such a basic fucking part of ther storyline.

>you are not as deep as you think
try to avoid ad hominem. You don't even know my name. Don't embarrass yourself.

>I've read it, and it's not the Bloodborne gospel some people like to think it is.
That tells me nothing about what you think of it. It's weasel words.

> I'm just shooting your baseless theory down and it seems you can't deal with it.
you're really not, though. You're just...denying it and crying at me. With a whole underlying "u mad bro" smugness. Anyway, i'm not going to reply again. You're not worth it, because you don't bring anything new to the table. Just denial of basic storyline points. Maybe Queen Yharnam spilled ketchup on herself before showing up in-game, eh?
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>>243695961
You do you, my friend. Just be sure to be a good sport and accept some criticism next time.
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>>243695681
>Isn't the simplest explanation that Byrgenwerth agents removed her child forcefully by cutting her up?

considering that Byrgenwerth didn't exist until long after the death of her entire civilisation?

No.
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>>243693965
mil vet 30/10/15/25/7/6
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>>243696310
Pthumerian civilization ain't dead tho
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>>243696660
sure it isn't. Don't let the fact that it exists far underground and that several cities have been built on top of it fool you.
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Friends what's the best stats to make a wheel twink with? Minimum stats to wield and then just pump everything else into vit?
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>>243696808
They're gravekeepers. Protectors of the tombs of the Great Ones. They're doing just fine.
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Are "Point Forward" followed by "Shhh!" the most insulting gestures after winning a PVP match?
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>>243696808
>several cities have been built on top
t. streetshitting lore conjecturer amerimutt
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>>243697159
Crushing vermin on their corpses is another favorite of mine. Especially when I deal with ganking faggots.
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>>243697264
I have no idea what you're trying to say.
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>>243684145
Having just played a SKL/BLT build I found BLT really underwhelming outside of the tricked Bowblade. Gun damage just wasn't enough to make up for stretching my stats so thin and the chikage was not fun at all to use. SKL has some neat weapons though. BB, BoM, Rakuyo, Saif, Cane, all very fun.
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>>243697614
Neither does he. He's just here for the anti-lore
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>tfw forgot to rescue Adella

Whoops.
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>>243697625
I made the same mistake. The right approach is to make either a skill, or a bloodtinge build- no combination. Bloodletter, bowblade and tricked rakuyo + firearms is the way to go.
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>>243697614
You wouldn't have any. You're a headcanon NPC
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>>243698042
cringe
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There's a not that says "The Mensis ritual must be stopped, lest we all become beasts".

So I guess that the ritual in question was beckoning the Blood Moon to descend? Maybe the whole thing failed because of Rom?
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>>243698308
Exactly.
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>>243698308
Rom was holding the ritual off. Hints are two of the ingame lore snippets are about the byrgenwerth spider keeping all manner of rituals and their master hidden. And there's the lake runes.
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>>243698308
>>243698583

The mensis ritual was to use the blood moon to birth a great one's child, likely to use it as a conduit to commune further with the great ones, like Ebrietas. Rom/Willem was there to obscure the blood moon and keep things hidden, rather than put a stop to the ritual, but it had ther effect of keeping Micolash hidden in the nightmare, too.
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Would anyone be willing to carry me through Cainhurst to get the Chikage early? That's my main weapon, new character, and I'm only level 35. I'll be at the first lamp, password is Chikage1
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>>243699268
You can get a Lost Chikage super fast if you do the false depth dungeons.
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>>243699083
>he even gets hard established explicit facts wrong
So we're back to baitposting again..
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>>243699538
>he even gets hard established explicit facts wrong
such as?
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>>243698351
>>243698583
I see. Then the real question is when was Rom conceived.

Was she created as a response to the ritual, or did she already exist beforehand without Mensis knowing about it?

The I don't know if that would fit with the story. It kinda paints Willem as a good guy even though he was the one who ordered the Fishing Hamlet sacked.
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What's the most stylish weapon in bloodborne? I want to make a build that goes for pure style over damage.
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>>243699485
I'v never actually done the chalice dungeons
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>>243699617
(You)
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>>243699739
What a retard.
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>>243699689
Cane obviously. Maybe burial blade.
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>>243699538
>>243699617
>>243699739
He's right though. The school of Mensis wanted their own Ebrietas, and after they failed so hard with Mergo they set to the ritual to summon the blood moon and the great one's child so that they could use it to greater communion.

They wanted their own Ebrietas.
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1-3 pthu
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0 steak driver only spelunk (rerolling for location)
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>>243699632
>Willem ... was the one who ordered the Fishing Hamlet sacked
That attack was a healing church initiative
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>>243699986
So what's the evidence chief?
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>>243700090
Nope, it was before the split. The shaman near the entrance to the hamlet specifically mentions Byrgenwerth.
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>>243700151

The cords tell us that their audience with Mergo failed, and their brains got stillborn.
The hunter's notes tell us that the blood one brings forth the child of a great one.
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>>243699702
The false depth chalices are super easy, just read this:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ffQccio5iZzxVDJxdCoSKO4FfMqhSmOo/view

You literally have to beat two bosses, then input this glyph and run for dear life: 9nheuvvz

According to the sheets the Lost Chikage is in the first bonus room of the first layer.
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>>243700227
And the presence of healing church hunters (harrowed set) indicates that it was after the split.
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>>243700250
>The hunter's notes tell us that the blood one brings forth the child of a great one.
Yeah, Arianna's child. I don't see how any of that means that Mensis wanted an Ebrietas of their own.
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>>243700564
The purpose of the blood moon is to birth the child of a great one...
> I don't see how any of that means that Mensis wanted an Ebrietas of their own.
Mensis was DESPERATE to get their hands on a great one. Even down to the fact that they wear antenna cages on their heads to try and hear them. The tried it once with Mergo and failed.
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>>243700564

>I don't see how any of that means that Mensis wanted an Ebrietas of their own.
"Nightmarish rituals crave a newborn."
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>>243700430
You misunderstand. All blood-drunk hunters end up in the nightmare, no matter the time period.

The harrowed set belongs to Simon, and Simon was clearly a church hunter, sure, but he seemed to be there of his own volition, like us. He was trying to bring an end to the Hunter's Nightmare by uncovering the secret beyond the Astral Clocktower. He gets stopped by Brador, but in his final moments he says (copied from the wiki):
>"So our forefathers sinned?
>…We hunters cannot bear their weight forever…
>…It isn’t fair, it just isn’t fair
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>>243700867
Nothing here indicates that the ritual was to bring forth a great one. Only that they would sacrifice mergo to sustain the nightmare of mensis.
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>>243700867
That could very well mean that in order to commune with a Great One you need a newborn, not that the purpose of the ritual is to conceive a newborn.
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>>243701131
The hunter's note says that:
"When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child."
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>>243701059
"When the red moon hangs low, the line between man and beast is blurred. And when the Great Ones descend, a womb will be blessed with child."

As above.

Also, they didn't sacrifice Mergo. He was already dead, stillborn, and communing with him caused the stillbirth of (Mensis') brains
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>>243700984
There's harrowed hunter corpses, like the one you loot a chunk off upper floor house next to hamlet lamp. The harrowed department is a pre-emptive measure.
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>>243700034
Anyone up for a Loran spelunk?
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>>243701219
>>243701346
It could be as you guys say, and that Mensis wanted to birth a Great One child but didn't know what they were doing and got nuked in the process. In fact, I like the idea that their ritual was actually a success, just not in the way they hoped: they only womb blessed with child was Arianna's, a common whore with no relation to Mensis or the Church.

But there's one big wrench in the wheel and that is that every little clue points that Arianna's child is Oedon's.

So I don't know. You'd have to consider that both the Moon Presence (the red moon) and Oedon are working together, and while a crazy possibility, there's nothing in the lore that hints at that.
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>>243701346
"a womb will be blessed with child"
must be talking about something else then, because it happens twice, to both Arianna and Iosefka
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>>243701346
The child is right there at the wetnurse, you can literally hear him crying.
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>>243701868
Bring it
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>>243701875
Mensis' whole thing was communion with the great ones, possibly out of jealous of the Choir or something, and yes, they did succeed...kind of. They communed with Mergo, who was already dead, and it blasted their brains to shit, which I guess is why we see so many of them sitting down dead. I suppose they just got fucked into a coma on the spot. Not sure why this didn't happen to Micolash, or Damien.

As >>243701883 points out, there is also Iosefka's child. Not sure if there is any proof that Arianna's child is Oedon's, either. But it wouldn't matter. Wasn't Mergo Oedon's too?

Not sure about the moon presence, desu. I have no fucking clue what that is, other than it was controlling Gehrman....somehow..for some reason. Not sure who called it, or why?
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>>243702034
The carriage is empty, and the child was stillborn. It existed only as consciousness, it seems. Wouldn't be the only character to do so.

The mother is standing outside with her abdomen torn and bloody, as a clue.
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>>243702156
Damien has the Loch shield and Micolash is the host. Not sure if and how exactly it would work, but those are the things I can think of.
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>>243702504
Maybe? And the mad scholar you fight in Mergo's loft doesn't wear a headcage thing, so maybe he's safe, too..
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>>243702590
I believe that was a healing church/choir infiltrant. An anon made a pretty compelling argument here
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>>243700090
The Church didn’t exist at the time
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>>243702235
>The carriage is empty
Nah, the child was formless. Just like a certain Great One. A certain Great ON
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>>243702148
Glyph: d3zu mca7
Pass: bbg
Be there or be square.
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>>243702878
I don't think he was formless. The Yharnam Stone looks like a calcified fetus and there's a a cord that's most likely Mergo's.
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>>243702878
>>243703065
He was stillborn. His mother's guts are hanging out, the stone looks like a calcified fetus, you get his unbilical cord, and you hear his crying, if you have insight enough, throughout the game, not just in the loft.

He exists in some form. All the ascended/great one characters do, after death. But he ain't alive in the world.
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>>243702832
Yet you have nothing to back up that statement while I have an item description linked to healing church operatives that preemptively strike scourged locations, directly on the scene. Hmmmm.
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>>243702778
Oh? I wonder what their reasoning was.
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>>243702878
"Every great one loses it's child.."
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>>243703273
I believe his weapons
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>>243703345
Oedon lost Mergo to the nightmare of Mensis. Kos lost orphan to the hunter's nightmare.
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>>243703532
I always found it odd that Micolash used an augur of Ebrietas and call beyond, actually. I thought there would be some explanation of that.
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>>243702148
Ringing my dude.
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>>243703214
I'm agreeing with you. I'm saying that he was born dead but had a physical form, which where his cord comes from. Afterwards it's just his consciousness.
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>>243702878
Or some say Oedonm.
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>>243703639
I don't believe that to be the meaning. I think that Great ones just...don't birth properly. Mergo was a stillborn, and Kos died before the orphan was born.
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1 spot free in the spelunk.
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>>243703720
Yep. Which is why the Mensis Scholars got mindfucked when they tried to commune with him.

Dunno where the brain of mensis comes into it though. Seems like the Scholars of Mensis had so many Great ones on their payroll, they shouldn't have bothered with the ritual at all.
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>>243702778
>I believe that was a healing church/choir infiltrant
Well, his name is Choir Intelligencer Edgar
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>>243703661
likely cut content. He was probably supposed to use Kos weapons.
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>>243703269
>"Byrgenwerth... Byrgenwerth... Blasphemous murderers... Blood-crazed fiends...

As for the hunters: anyone can enter the Nightmare if they have a relic like the Eye. Either those corpses are dead blood-drunk hunters or they tried to stop the Nightmare just like Simon.
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>Level up to BL50
>Can't get any PVP anymore

T-Thanks...
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LAYER THE FIRST
prelayer was unremarkable save for a weak hidden wall.
Main saw our demise by a boneash hunter and her motley crew of spiders and wolves.
An invader annihilated both of us sending us back to the start of the layer.
Again she thwarted us, and again we try.
No preboss.
Boss was bepis.
Onto Layer 2!
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Crowsteel can be easily raped if you bait him into rushing/running towards you. Saif's transformed R2 then L1 will guarantee free hits. No need to even cheese, fucker's that easy.
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>>243705087
PVP's dead. Last year I couldn't get any PVP at 80 at goddamn castle mensis (or atleast i could but it was like one invade every 10 min or more).
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>those like 30 chalice dungeons

the concept is cool but it's tedious as hell
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>>243706848
isz is decent (I think it was the one where you're inside a gigantic crevice with bridges connecting a labyrinth, that captured the lost ancient civilisation picture pretty well)
the rest are garbage
the one that gimps your health is doublegarbage
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Need some help with Shadows of Yharnam. Password is Shadows54. Right outside their fog.
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>>243707046
>isz
nevermind that was Loran, just checked.
>inb4 some dungeon autismos maximus neckbeard makes an ackshually reply
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>>243706827
Strange. Just yesterday I was invading in Hunter's Nightmare BL69. I was invading in frontier and old yharnam too. Game isn't so dead as I thought.
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>>243707173
Sorry, Shadows5
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Anyone knows how to initiate game's developer [debug] menu?
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LAYER THE SECOND
Dissipating Lake in found in prelayer.
Invaded in main by fourhundred and eleveb, I dive under a boulder for saftey. wasn't too safe.
No preboss [again].
Boss was keeper.
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>>243707225
Me too, I was invading at BL43 in Byrgenwerth and I had plenty of matches. But now that I'm BL50 I can't get any.

>>243706848
Just do a few of false depth dungeons to get weapons, runes and gems.
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LAYER THE THIRD
No prelayer.
Issac was riposted across postcodes with some impressive netcode wizardy.
Preboss had Jelly in it and some mightly asynchronous swinging axes that proved too powerful for my compatriot.
Boss was Abho in a room with a massive 20m vertical bottomless pit in the centre. Nice.
Thanks for coming Issac and thanks for invading FourEleven. I really liked the 3rd layer boss room and 2nd layer pre layer.
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>>243710957
>Boss was Abho in a room with a massive 20m vertical bottomless pit in the centre. Nice.
WHAT
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>>243712356
First time I've seen it dude. Its pretty spooky. What woulf pthumerians even need a bottomless pit for?
probably throwing bodies down. And the Abho we fight there was the only one that could climb up
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>>243712356
I've seen it before, it's pretty neat.
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>>243624969
Where was dis?
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>>243713935
Looks like early concept art for the OoK bossfight arena, or where we could've fought the Moon Presence.
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>>243714158
Just imagine fighting OoK in here. Kino / 10
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>>243713935
Either Orphan or Moon Presence 3rd phase, my guess is the latter since the cut bossroom has those same 'Below the Nexus' melted/blasted rocks as the image.
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>>243713935
>>243624969
Looks like the cut arena where you fight the glitchy alterante Moon Presence.
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Any way to counter the Kos Parasite explosion attack? The range seems huge.
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>>243714781
It's already kino as it is. And the 1st phase music just works.
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>>243715543
I just hang back and fire my guns. But I'm on a Blt build so idk.
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>>243715543
Run.
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>>243715543
Parry or dodge back twice. Just expect any Parasite user to use it, most do.
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>>243715543
just parry lmao
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>>243716295
1v1 not so much. But 1v2, through objects or in an ambush? Heck ye brother
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Post fashion.
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Is Ludwig's Holy Blade decent with 50 strength OR 50 skill? Or is it just a quality weapon?
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>>243718594
it's slightly better with 50str/25skl because of the gems, but decent with 50skl/25str too
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Is there a list of all the true combo and hyperarmor attacks in the game?
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>>243719507
Yeah right here:
-find
-out
-yourself
-fucking
-spoonfed
-cunt
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>>243721895
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>>243719507
As great as our community resources are, I think that's the one thing we don't have.

I'm not sure if BB has any, or many, anyway. I think it pretty solidly operates under the two-hit rule.
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>>243722132
More than half of the moves doesnt combo, then there's link 2 staggers like BoM or saif.
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>>243719507
>true combos
Untricked to tricked Ludwig's L1+(immediate)R1
Untricked to tricked HMS L1+R1
Tricked Amy Arm charged R2 + secret follow-ups
Can't think of any other right now.
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>>243725496
Cringe
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>>243725935
holy seethe
it really takes posting Maria/the doll over here to out these gigaredditors huh
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>>243726084
Yeah reddit rapefugees can't refrain from posting that shitty boss.
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>>243719507
>>243725703
What the fuck are true combos?
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So basically the TLDR on Maria is
>She originated from Cainhurst
>She was (I think) a member of the healing church and participated on whatever went in the hamlet
>she was (somehow) lady of the Astral clock tower and hated the Church for what it did in the hamlet and tried to hide it/cover it up.
>Gehrman had a crush on her and got rejected and became an incel with a sexdoll replica of her
This is it right?
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>>243726412
They don't really exist in BB. I think I know maybe one, involving the MLGS.
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I feel like I'm going crazy. I WANT to love Bloodborne, but I just keep bouncing off it when I try to get into it.
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>>243726412
A sequence of attacks that can't be dodged nor evaded from in any way.
>>243727183
>>243725703
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>>243727283
then stick with it faggot there's nothing stopping you
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>>243726956
how old is LM? supposedly she's ages old since Gehrman liked her back in the old days.
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>>243727872
there's no fucking timeline if you still haven't got it
she's young in the nightmare meaning she died at that age, gehrman was older obviously
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>>243726956
Personally I interpret that she was Gherman's apprentice, presumably while he was still an agent of Byrgenwerth. I say this because the events at the hamlet were Byrgenwerth's doing.

Someone correct me because I'm probably wrong, but I can't remember atm any instance where she's refered as a hunter. Was she?
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>>243731072
>is Gherman's apprentice
>but is she a hunter?
big think
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>>243731413
Welp, I mean an official Byrgenwerth/Church hunter.
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>>243726956
Gehrman's never made his feelings for Maria known while she was alive, according to her set.

>Maria is distantly related to the undead queen,
>but had great admiration for Gehrman, unaware of his curious mania"
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>>243731951
The research hall as a Church institution that she had a hand in going by descriptions from the Nightmare.
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>>243731951
She's not from the Church Workshop, she's from the Hunter's Workshop, established by Gehrman, given the timeline. Gehrman's workshop existed during the early days of the Church so it explains how she became the caretaker or supervisor at the Research Hall.
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GOD I just killed Bloodletting beast in pthumeru chalice with all the curses.
But it was in a relatively small arena so it felt like miyazaki personally plucked my eyes out at times.
I feel so fucking accomplished though, my heart pounded so much my neighbor thought I was nailing something to a wall.
Just wanted to share that moment with you guys
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Weird question, as I'm totally out of the loop with regards to "modding"/accessing cut content.
Have people unlocked early versions of character creator options to use or anything like that? I just invaded someone using a voice set I swear I've never heard before and it sounded really muted/out of place in comparison to the six regular character voices, a bit muffled/strained sounding.
I do actually have a capture of this that I could upload to YT.
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I know this marks me out as a complete fucking noob but how the fuck do I beat Gascoigne? He moves faster than me, his attacks track far better than mine, he has infinite fucking ammo. Every other time I've died, it's at least felt fair, but this just feels like I'm meant to lose.
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>>243733229
You can hide behind the graves and sometimes he gets kinda stuck. Or you could get good and parry his attacks until he becomes very angery, then use the music box and molotovs.
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>>243733229
doge to his sides throughout
parry in 2nd phase
molotovs in 3rd
gg ez
don't fucking cheese, you'll get your shit kicked in later bosses
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>>243733229
You've got enough time after stunning him with the music box to backstab him, and he's pretty easy to parry before he transforms. Be aggressive, he's there to teach you what a real hunter should be fighting like.
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>>243733485

I've tried to parry him, but my timing is shit, plus I'm out of bullets now.

I don't have any music box either.
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>>243733651
This. Gascoigne is a great hunter and you should be as aggressive as he is.
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>>243733719
Is he the first boss you're facing? If so, explore more. Also, you missed an NPC if you don't have a music box. She's inside a house and you talk to the window.
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>>243733128
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wy8Sfqxf2bY
Vid related. I think he might also be using a pair of trousers I've never seen in the game before but that could just be my total inexperience of fashionborne. Shit's kinda weird and I'm intrigued.

>>243733229
If he knocks you down in beast form, dodge through his attacks to the forward left/right. If you dodge backwards or stay on the ground he can chain lunge you to death.
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>>243733945

No, I've beat Cleric Beast who at least felt fair. Gascoigne can do a bunch of shit I can't, like cancelling out of his own fucking animations, and stunlocking me so I can't dodge at all.
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>>243734520
Trust me anon. It might feel unfair now, but if you persevere, you'll see how easy he is on your next playthrough. I promise.
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>>243734204
That IS pretty weird. I have no explanation.

Unrelated, but what BL are you? Are you getting frequent invasions in that area?
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>>243734520
What weapon are you using anyway?
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>>243734792

Saw Cleaver +1 and Hunter's Pistol.
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>>243734791
BL100. I used to get really frequent Nightmare invasions at this level but not so much anymore- it's not really dead by any means but you do have to wait around. I think I lucked out here.
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>>243734916
Maybe try focusing more on dodging his attacks and studying his moveset. He'll get more predictable if you pay close attention to him
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MARY MOTHER OF JESUS GOD FUCKING DAMN LAURENCE I'VE DIED TO THAT FUCKING NIGGER 100 TIMES ON MY LOW BL RUN FUUUUCK CAN'T EVEN GET CLOSE TO HIM WITHOUT GETTING BLASTED BY HIS FIERY AOE COCK SLAMS GOD DAAAAAAMMN
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>>243727283

Just start with a saw cleaver fuck around in yharnam until you get it. Don't get too heated about dying
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>>243732761

God I wish the wall actually filled up like this
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>>243733229

His attacks don't really track that much, you just need to roll away later in his windup, or better yet parry. You don't need music box or molotovs, you just need to dodge to his sides and punish his ass. And learn to parry
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>>243733229

Anon, this will seem like a weird question but: Have you played any Souls game before? If you have, you're at a disadvantage because you need to unlearn shit.

Because El Padre is essentially a trap boss meant to punish the bad habits you learn playing Dark Souls. Turtle up? Kills you easily. Dodge backwards? Kiss you easily.

Bring the fight to him. Get the fuck up in his face and don't give him any chances. Dodge toward him to close gaps and to make his attacks overshoot. And learn the might of the sidedodge. You are invincible for FAR longer than you think during a sidedodge, more than enough to bullshit your way through his gunfire.
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Is this ok for a Reiterpallasch, Rifle Spear and LHB build? Can I get by with less strenght for the LHB?
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>>243737161
>changed to male
What is it, anon? Fragile masculinity?
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>>243733229
This guy has the best advice out of everyone here:>>243736813
You have to be aggressive back or he will punish everything you do and eat up all your bullets and vials and everything.
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>>243737640
You got me.
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>>243737161
>leveling END
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>>243737161
86 is kind of a weird place to stop. You want more Vit regardless.
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>>243740465
Hol up... how a mountain goin' stumblin' n' shiet? This whiteboi lost his damn mind!
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>>243725496
now it's perfect!
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>tfw trying so hard to play through without looking up any help
>tfw completely fucking lost and reach what feels like a dead end

I know I must be missing something obvious, because I've reached a point where I have no idea where to go.
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What origin do you guys use for BLT/BLT+SKL builds?
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>>243742554
Well, speak up. Where have you been wandering around? What kind of keys do you have? What color is the sky right now?
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>>243741135
Naw nigga it's Cthulhu's a big nigga, like a mountain, and he's still all sleepy n shieet so he stumblin
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>>243734204
That's just the Aged Female voice, not many people use it. Trousers are part of the Choir Set.
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>>243742738
Military Veteran for Blt with Bloodletter, Lone Survivor for Skl/Blt without Bloodletter.
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>>243743352

Solved itself, was being blind and walking straight past the path I was meant to go down.

Man, there is no greater relief than realizing you just opened a shortcut and have a straight shot to the lantern.
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>>243746958
Well, I'm still interested in where you are in the game. Everyone's first playthrough is a bit special.
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>>243747341
>greater dilation tool
Kek'd.
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>>243747524

Just reached Blood-Starved Beast. Almost got him down but forgot about the poison.
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>>243748269
Have a look around the top of his arena
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Anyone else here have the hunter Figma?
DLC weapons have been revealed at this year's Wonder Festival.
The Moonlight...
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>>243748269
>>243751698
And by that he means, behind the altar.
Also, you'll make it. Bloodstarved is tough, but that's what makes him so fun to fight a dozen times over.
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>>243754023
I fucking hate figmas but that LM looks pretty great
How goddamn much mediocre statues is gecco gonna keep churning out until they make a Lady Maria one? the P1 one was too expensive and big
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>>243751698
>>243754550

Finally got him down, by the skin of my teeth, was mashing the antidote button as he went down. Grabbed the item from behind the altar too.
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>>243755735
Good work, hunter. You now have a Chalice, your gateway into getting good bloodgems for dealing big boy damage that's entirely optional, and a particular door in the Cathedral Ward has opened.
Let ye partake in communion.
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I for the life of me can't beat Maria. BB has been pretty easy for me, I've beaten probably 80% of the bosses on my first try and just have her and orphan left. But fuck me she's hard.
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>>243758227
90% of her moves have a blindspot behind her right shoulder, and you can always just interrupt literally everything she does.
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>>243758227
you can dodge through almost all of her attacks, or even walk around her. she does one very delayed swing with tracking with both swords that you need to be on the other side for (not the side she's swinging towards). p2 and p3 can be made easier by parrying or just gun spamming and hoping to land a parry. good luck!
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>>243758227
Is it her final phase with the 2x lingering hitboxes? Yea, one wrong move and it's stunlock time. But her initial phase(s) aren't bad, you can just doge. Also pizza time is your best friend here.
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So with all this new cheat fuckery, what is the absolute minimum shit I need to do to get on FRCs and gem farm?

I imagine I still need to kill most of the story bosses and Mensis Brain?
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Christ, Honestly surprised to see this general still around.
I have not been here in years

https://youtu.be/Pa_k1WfMdzs
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>>243761116
There's generals of visual novels that came out 7 years ago, what do you expect
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>>243759587
Technically to get to the FRCs all you need is the pthumeru root chalice, so in terms of story progression just BSB. You can then use glyphs to go to the false depths story dungeons, which essentially just skips to the tail end of the chalice run. Run Isz, Ihyll and Lower Loran until you get the root chalices/sinister chalices you want (you technically only need 1 root chalice, sinisters can suffice for the other two). Then run the false depth ritual material dungeon one to two times and make your FRC.
Story progression beyond BSB is optional, but probably recommended since you'll be fighting some tough depth 5 bosses. You'll want to be a decent level and have some decent gear.
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>>243761973
Well goddamn. I might just fire up the game and do that, if only for the novelty. Are the chalices that drop the Root chalices all the same old story chalices, just flagged as Pthumerian Labyrinth?
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>>243762627
Yup, they're exactly the same If you're looking for glyphs this page on the bloodborne wiki has them all
https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2017/11/save-editing-chalice-dungeons.html
there's also a google doc floating around that might be helpful, it was either posted in this thread or the last one.
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>>243763002
>Yup
Ah. Well that's slightly less novelty.
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>Calling Father Gascoigne Papa G
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>>243733229
There is a trick to beating bloodborne bosses.
When you fight them don't always fight to win. If you go into a fight and use half of your vials then die you've lost resources. DarkSouls is designed so that you can use all your estus all day and fight the boss like its your last time every time. Whereas BB rewards you for learning the boss before having some serious attempts.
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>>243735836
Feel the burn you beastly idiot.
He is the most bullshit boss in the entire game.
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>>243764290
I like calling him Sire PetrolMoney.
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>>243764290
>not calling him El Padre
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>>243764290
El Gran Padre del Dinero
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>>243767431
>A sort of mad as fuck wank-demon
What did he mean by this bros?
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>Mergo was not stillborn
>Pthumerian civilization is still around
>The blood moon and the Great One's Child are unconnected
>Mensis didn't REALLY want a Great One to commune with
>Logarius was never the leader of the executioners

what kind of lorelets did we get in here earlier?
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>>243771147
>>Mergo was not stillborn
Isn't it implied that it was a failed pregnancy?
>>Pthumerian civilization is still around
If you count a bunch of tomb janitors still kicking about in the labyrinths an extension of the Pthumerian civilization then I guess so.
>>Mensis didn't REALLY want a Great One to commune with
Then why does Micolash inquire Kos to "plant eyes" in his brain and ascend to higher planes of thought?
>>Logarius was never the leader of the executioners
I guess he lead a band of Excutioners, as explicitly stated then. Isn't all that bit of a stretch that Logarius could've been their leader too (before the Cainhurst massacre), due to how revered he is by subsequent executioners further down the line, as implied by Alfred's zealous adoration. But this isn't all that important to the overall plot.
Got any viable arguments regarding the 1st, 3rd, and 4th claims? Pretty interested in what you think.
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>>243772756
>Got any viable arguments regarding the 1st, 3rd, and 4th claims? Pretty interested in what you think.

>Isn't it implied that it was a failed pregnancy?
Mergo was a stillbirth. Which in turn caused the stillbirth of the Mensis Scholars' brains when they tries to commune with it, dead as it was. But it still lives in some form in the nightmare.

>Then why does Micolash inquire Kos to "plant eyes" in his brain and ascend to higher planes of thought?
Mensis was DESPERATE for commune wit great ones, which is why they went to such great lengths to perform their ritual, and bring forth a child of a Great One. Not sure why, though. They already had the brain of Mensis, and kind of Mergo. And the One Reborn, if that counts. And maybe even Kos.

Then again, there are people that think the doll is a great one.

>I guess he lead a band of Executioners, as explicitly stated then. Isn't all that bit of a stretch that Logarius could've been their leader too

Well, Alfred is the only executioner we meet, and he refers to him as his "Eminent Master" or something like that, so...for all intents and puposes, Logarius led the executioners. They weren't a large sect, anyway, I don't think. Just one of many things the church got up to.


Many people in this thread who require concrete evidence for everything, even though none can be given, as is the nature of the narrative. After all, there is no concrete evidence that Arianna and Iosefka are birthing great one babies, either.
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>>243773318
>They already had the brain of Mensis, and kind of Mergo
On the topic of why Mensis didn't use the Brain, it is stated that it was a vestigial, albeit legitimate Great One.
>The immense brain that Mensis retrieved from the nightmare was indeed lined with eyes on the inside, but they were of an evil sort, and the brain itself was terrible rotten. But even still, it was a legitimate Great One, and left a relic. A living relic, at that, which is a precious thing indeed.
Not sure why they didn't use Mergo, maybe he was too young to posses any "power" so to speak. Don't fucking understand One Reborn at all, ditch that lmao I'll stick with the headcanon that it was an unintended consequence of the beckoning.
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>>243774368

>it is stated that it was a vestigial, albeit legitimate Great One.
I don't know much about the brain, admittedly. Where it came from, even. Did they summon it, or create it somehow? I assume they've done this blood moon ritual a ton of times, which might be responsible for the state Yharnam is in...

I guess they learned all they could from the Brain and then left it on the tower..

Well, when they tried to commune with Mergo, they didn't understand that he was dead, and they ended up communing with a dead great one on a plane they presumably couldn't understand, and it literally blew their minds.

As far as the one reborn goes...I think headcanon is the only route we can take, unless we wanna go meta and assume that Miyazaki wanted the rotten or to reprise his tower knight from demons'.

I always imagined TOR to be an attempted recreation of Mergo using the bodies and the bellmaidens. The "reborn" part of it seems to allude to something that was dead, and the only great one we know of that is "dead" and known to Mensis are Mergo
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>want to co-op in BB, get instantaneous hoonter assistance
>want to co-op in DS3, no one around ever
Fucking Nameless King is putting me on tilt harder than Orphan of Fuck You ever did.
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>>243778174
I found NK hard as fuck too.

What got me through it was strafing the opposite way that made sense. I can't remember which was which by now, but whatever way you're going, try reversing it. Might help.
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>>243778621
Honestly if I could just start at NK I think I'd be fine, but I get so tired of having to go through the camera-boss wyvern first. I'll take a breather so I don't snap this controller over my knee.
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>>243778174
Nameless is easy son, just closely circle around him, and get behind. You'll get some hits in there. Plus a lot of his attacks are well telegraphed. His aerial slam with his spear is easily punishable.
OoK on the other hand is a completely unpredictable sperg.
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>>243778730
Yeah, I feel you. Chicken-headed motherfucker in a game where the depth perception already isn't easy, then everything he does hits for 80%, so you burn through flasks. It's a giant pain in the ass.
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>the best hunters in coop are play as girls
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Orphan gets all his powers from the placenta. Even his lightning attack is centered on Kos. If the placenta was severed he wouldn't be able to fight at all. He might even die outright.
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>>243758227
>>243758227
I'm back, just beat her. Took like 5 flame papers but it got the job done!
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>>243779676
Oh-hoh!
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> shadows of yharnam
> me with 2 npc vs them
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>>243785951
cringe
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>>243786679
> cringe
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>>243713935
>>243715440
>>243715198
>>243714158
Deep lore
https://youtu.be/N1n7S2G6cmk?t=19
https://youtu.be/gcRBDbIajqA?t=203
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>>243778174
You on PS4? If you're back on in a few hours I can help out. Honestly just ask here if you ever want co-op, /dsg/ doesn't like playing with others.
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>>243793553
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Sleepy burger hours? Eurofrens will keep the dream alive
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>>243795408
>bumping for amerimutts
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lads, why the FUCK does /bbg/ not show up in my filters? it's so bad I couldn't even see it yesterday at all
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>>243797493
apparently it's my /dcg/ filter blocking /bbg/,
because it's in the fucking OP as a chalice glyph. Are you shitting me rn
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What the fuck is this omegautism comparing it with the drake sword etc
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>>243802979
dayum a sword looks similar to a sword
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>>243803158
Bruh tarrot cards lmao. I'm honestly getting the feeling that one ultralorefag is actually just a shitposter from /bbg/
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>>243802979
You can't deny he's well-read. Rakuyo has thought of stuff Miyazaki would've never dreamt of.
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>>243803576
Not denying it, some of his work his great and I've read it in my own time. But he always goes off on a tangent towards the fucking cosmos. Like holy fuck how much autism can one man attain?
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>>243804041
I think his writing lacks poignancy. He considers all these links to other works - hidden in architecture, weapon and enemy design, in the names, the behaviorisms, or the actions of characters, in storylines, subplots and conversations - yet he always, always fails to subsume them under one larger theme. Yeah, it's interesting that Lovecraft wrote this or that, or that flowers in real life sustain themselves like this or that, or that the taro cards spell out this or that, and it's interesting that Miyazaki apparently also put these things in his game - but why did he do it? What's the point of all these supposed references barely anyone will get? Rakuyo never explains this and makes all his lore articles quite pointless.
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>>243802979
No it's actually reminiscent of the Kris Blade from DeS reeeeeee
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>>243795587
I'm bumping for amerifrens
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Hey /bbg/

I'm looking for some blood gems to farm that aren't a hassle to actually get. I'm basically looking for decent phys gems that drop from mobs, not bosses.

I don't really need the best gems, to be honest.
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>>243806102
https://www.bloodborne-wiki.com/2015/10/individual-blood-gems.html
a lot of options for underachievers such as yourself
>Physical ATK UP +21% + Random stat x2 (Add phys ATK +18.9)
>Radial - Glyph: 7enpbrta, F/R/C Ihyll L2, red aura Madman with its back to you right next to lamp
L1 lever watcher in 9heuvvz false depth also drops around 20%ish phys gems. or you could just farm orphan cave winter lanterns
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>>243806102
I assume you don't want to do any FRCs, so it's wintern lanterns in whichever area you have access to (best ones below the lighthouse hut)
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>>243806869
lol Many thanks for helping out a lowlife!

>>243807278
Haven't made my way through the chalices on this character yet, so this is a beautiful option as well.
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>>243801653
Vilebloods must be purged.
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>>243806236
then farm wintern lanterns in the DLC

good gems require chalice dungeons
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>>243808046
>tfw this image was reversed in my most recent playthrough with the Boom Hammer

That weapon is so godly. It might be cheap to attack through walls and other objects, but I think it's one of the Boom Hammer's main advantages. The blast radius of the R2 also outranges any enemy that has even a slight chance of hitting you back through the wall, though only 2 or 3 enemies I encountered where able to retaliate against this tactic at all. It completely neuters so many enemies and bosses.
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bumperino
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>>243817790
thx
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>>243806236
Glyph xc284ugx has two warriors just outside the first lantern that drop decent cursed radials. It's a false depth dungeon tho.
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What's the comfiest level for cooperation?
I hardly see anyone
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>>243821417
80-120 in general, I'd say the higher the better. I haven't been on in a while so I can't speak as to the liveliness of co-op, but reddit and other normies go up around BL150.
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Does anyone have some good shots of nighttime Yharnam? Or of any place that has this blueish tint.

I really need more wallpapers, I remember someone sharing a link that contained these godly shots, thank you whoever did that.
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>>243824016
Do you have that link?
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Since /dsg/ is too busy arguing about metas, I'm gonna ask here: anyone available to help me move some items over from one character to another in DaS3 on PS4?
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How many of you are posting in the Jazz general instead of here?
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>>243827937
I'm posting in both
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Ahhh Kos, or some say Kosm
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>>243828787
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH KOS AWOOOOOOOOO
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>>243828787
> Now I'm waking up! I'll forget everything
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What's the lore explanation for player hunters being able to summon each other? Unlike in dark souls, time seems to flow linearly in bloodborne with the moon presence always repeating the cycle of: creating the hunters dream, picking a hunter to complete a mission, and then Gerhman kills/frees them.
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>>243832156
He kinda looks like he wants to forget everything.
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>>243832624
>time flows linearly in a circle
You're shits is all retarded
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Is anybody else's Spotify busted? Every track I play pauses itself every 1-2 seconds.
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>>243833235
>paying for music
why not just use youtube
and what does this have to do with bloodborne
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>>243833384
Spotify on PS4 is free.
You can listen to tunes while you're spelunking.
I'm on PS4, like everyone else here, so I'm asking real quick if anyone else is having the same problem.
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>>243832624
The universe is composed of layers, some are similar, some are wildly alien. We summon hunters from other parallel dimensions, basically.
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>>243833994
I didn't even know it was free
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MIGRATE

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>>109792153
>>109792153
>>109792153
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>>243836965
Me neither

>>243833994
Thanks anon
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>>243837417
What the fuck are you doing? Don't make another thread, you savage.
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Sorry bro there's a new bloodborne general, and it's way more active than this one. Let's see if I can link it properly this time

>>>/tv/109792153
>>>/tv/109792153
>>>/tv/109792153
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>>243837783
It's a jazz general don't let the memes fool you (as cool as they may be)
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>>243840596
jdimsa?
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>>243840825
just die in my sleep already
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>about to farm Winter Lanterns
>realize I'm wearing the Madman set and have 99 insight
>Frenzy RES: 18
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>>243840935
Ah.
iktf
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>>243840596
What the fuck, I love repeating this line too

I fucking love the way Willem says it
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>>243837783
oh god
reading into these threads while listening to bloodborne ost will put the fear of god in you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syg_2Bmp_8A specifically
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>>243824016
I've got no clue where or what this link might be but.
Closest thing is this cynical meme i made out of a panorama i patched together some time i ago.
The original file-size of the filtered image is around 18-19 MBs so 4chin won't let me post.
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>>243841101
Not even memeing, I do too
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>>243844227
Bottom image still looks good
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>>243844227
Bottom is better tho
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>>243846498
Hello, sekiroshill.
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>>243844227
If you're screen looks like the bottom image, calibrate your fucking television
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>>243844227
I wonder if it's possible to play like that, with a bit of TV-screen fuckery. If you want to go hard, you could get a capture card, stream it to your PC monitor, and then run a post-processing software like ReShade onto whatever it's streaming on.
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>>243847668
I'm an utter dunce when it comes to shit like this. Are you implying you can play the game like the top image? How would you go about doing that anyways?
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>>243848918
I'm really no expert, but you do not have to play such a washed it looking game. There's an automatic RGB option in the PS4 itself you can change, you should fiddle around with the picture options on your TV itself. Thing is, every TV brand is different and I can't really generalize, but I certainly play with a much richer picture with stuff like HDMI TrueBlack on my TV, and my TV really isn't top end stuff, I just fucked about with settings.
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>>243844227
>>243847668
>>243848918
I don't think you can. That's basically what BB look like on my PS4/TV too.

I just shooped bottom the bottom pic of your post in five secons by upping the contrast and saturation, and lowering the gamma, so maybe it's possible to get like settings on your TV. Probably mess everything else up, though.
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First time playthrough update: Cleric Beast, Father Gascoigne, Blood-starved Beast, Vicar Amelia, Darkbeast Paarl, Witch of Hemwick down.

You guys I think I'm Gitting Gud.
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>>243853989
You can always git gudder. None of those bosses are really hard. Do the DLC
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>>243853989
I hope you enjoy the game. It gets better.
Don't miss out on the DLC fren.
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>>243854649
>>243854598

I bought the GotY edition for exactly that reason
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I just had a pretty intense duel at Byrgenwerth against someone witha Bloodletter, was that any of you autists?
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Still kinda new to this game and haven't fucked around with chalices much.

So basically the chalice pwmf22gu says it has a blood gem I want with a 19 drop rate. Does this mean if I go there and beat the boss then I have a 19% chance of getting it?
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>there are people in this thread RIGHT NOW who think that the school of Mensis forcibly took Queen Yharnam's baby from her womb
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>>243858650
They just used the one that still exists in the Nightmare
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>>243858650
You can't be this far up your ass with unsubstantiated headcanon. But they certainly were trying to use Mergo. Besides, weren't they "granted audience" with him via the cord?
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>>243858650
Mensis does not exist.
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>>243859368
>You can't be this far up your ass with unsubstantiated headcanon.
They literally think that the school of Mensis had access to the ancient queen of a long-forgotten civilization while she was still pregnant..

>But they certainly were trying to use Mergo. Besides, weren't they "granted audience" with him via the cord?
They were granted access to him while he was dead, and that caused their brains to melt down, yes. It's why they kept the blood moon ritual going. Gotta have a better, more alive great one to commune with. Fuckin' smug choir rubbing that Ebrietas in their faces
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>>243859537
explain
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>>243859736
>>243683302
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>>243859793
Blood Ministration causes Autism! A very powerful celebrity says so! Sure, he's a cainhurst blood-whore, but her child of blood has autism, and it was 100% caused by blood ministration!
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>>243859913
The vax debate is so frustrating for me. On the one hand, vaccination absolutely, irrefutably works, even at the simplest level. On the other hand I absolutely don't trust the government to regulate vaccine safety with any degree of certainty or competency, considering how many people die a year from shit as retarded as contaminated peanut butter.
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>>243860563
There is hard evidence that the regulating bodies that were supposed to check and govern vaccines every year haven't bothered to do so since the 1980's. There is also evidence that eminent doctors involved in the debate have been horribly misquoted, and have actually said that vaccines are harmful.
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>>243833089
I messed up, I meant to say that in dark souls it is explicitly said by solaire that time is distorted and there are different worlds. I don't think that exists in bloodborne.
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>>243853989
Do the chalice dungeons as you get them. You'll regret it later if you don't
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>>243861265
No, that doesn't really exists. You, the Good Hunter is experiencing one timeline, no other timeline converges with yours.
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>>243861150
>There is hard evidence that the regulating bodies that were supposed to check and govern vaccines every year haven't bothered to do so since the 1980's.
I believe that.
>There is also evidence that eminent doctors involved in the debate have been horribly misquoted, and have actually said that vaccines are harmful.
I don't believe that, unless what was being called harmful was whatever they were using as a preservative. No problem believing that.
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>>243859657
>ancient queen of a long-forgotten civilization
Pthumerian civilization exists alongside Yharnam civilization. It's not long-forgotten
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>>243861969
We share a general with this type of person
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>>243862208
You can see them digging out more labyrinths. Besides, the labyrinths aren't the civilization in the same way that the catacombs of Paris aren't Paris.

dumbo
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>>243861969
the pthu civilization is vestigial at most during the Yharnam era
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>>243862450
prove it
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>>243858650
Of course it wasn't Mensis, it was Byrgenwerth.
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>>243862414
>Besides, the labyrinths aren't the civilization in the same way that the catacombs of Paris aren't Paris.

>Paris is wiped out by an epidemic
>Hundreds of years later, only a few scholars know it ever existed
>They send scouts to excavate the ruins, and explore what they can
>Fallout-ghouls have been wandering unable to die in all the years since
>By God, Paris exists now just as was then, see! these old subterranean aqueducts and these living husks are still something that resembles a once-sentient human being are still here.
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>>243863039
Yeah, man. Don't let the fact that the city that Byrgenwerth was eventually built in was named for the long-gone Queen of the ancient civilization stop you.
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>>243863120
Just because we don't see modern day Pthumeru in the game doesn't mean it doesn't exist. We don't know where the PC hunter comes from either, or Eileen.
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>>243862414
How in God's name are you so utterly unaware? Pthumeru is THE archetypal pre-human civilization hiding eldritch forbidden knowledge. I now await your response taking certain words at pure face value with an absolute lack of nuance.
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>>243863498
I'm waiting for some evidence, chief.
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>>243863609
You literally read and see the evidence for yourself. Come on son it isn't that fucking hard to draw to conclusions.
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>>243863764
Shouldn't be too hard for you to present it then, should it?
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Should I make a wheel twink, and if not, what type of build should I make because I am going to make something.
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>>243863609
You're one the claiming clear and blatant bullshit, but I'll spoonfeed you, despite the outcome already being determined.
>a cursory glance at any pthumerian from basic mob to watcher and madman will show pallid, sunken, emaciated flesh, protruding skeletons, often covered in open rotting sores
>we are also made aware of the pthumerian penchant for undeath
>see: undead giant, and pay very close attention to his name
>the pthumerian labyrinths are silent, frigid, full of aimless, mindlessly hostile things either dwelling in wooden coffins, laying on the ground motionless or lost in bizarre worship
>pits of corpses fucking everywhere
>pthumerian beasts still wandering around as we're also aware of the undead beasts
>cosmic beings stewing in haze surrounded by more clearly undead pthumerians
>ostensibly four types of pthumerians might even be considered alive if their hideous immortality and immediate hostility hasn't rendered them into raving lunatics that can't function anymore

Pthumeru is the ultimate Gothic dark secret - it's the secret tunnel, the horrible revelation, buried away under the earth, a nightmarish corpse-city with the fragile human world piled on top of it. It satisfies Bloodborne's Gothic literary and Lovecraftian roots the forbidden knowledge, forbidden not by any one person, but by virtue that it was something better left unknown by man. Every single thing wrong with the city of Yharnam can be traced back to Pthumeru and the hellish ritualized world they lived in.
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>>243864943
You should make a gun and kill yourself for twinking.
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>>243865034
>>a cursory glance at any pthumerian from basic mob to watcher and madman will show pallid, sunken, emaciated flesh, protruding skeletons, often covered in open rotting sores
Not like the citizens of central Yharnam, Yah har ghul or old Yharnam, who have exactly the same thing..
>we are also made aware of the pthumerian penchant for undeath
Also: Cainhurst's
>see: undead giant, and pay very close attention to his name
Logarius literally comes back from a zombified state, and there are literal GHOSTS there, too. Your point is moot.
>>the pthumerian labyrinths are silent, frigid, full of aimless, mindlessly hostile things either dwelling in wooden coffins, laying on the ground motionless or lost in bizarre worship
>pits of corpses fucking everywhere
OPINION. Also, means nothing.
>pits of corpses fucking everywhere
As does the forbidden forest, hemwick charnel lane.
>pthumerian beasts still wandering around
This is actually evidence against you
>cosmic beings stewing in haze
like in the forbidden forest...
>raving lunatics that can't function anymore
like 99% of everything else you fight?

The real kicker is that you didn't provide ONE solid fact to back yourself up.
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>>243866070
Not that guy but makes you say that Pthumeru is contemporary to Yharnam?
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>>243866529

"It is so for the purpose of escaping the Blood Moon, the thing that brings out humanity's beastly nature."

It was built as an underground city to escape the blood moon. That seems like it would still be very useful in contemporary times.
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>>243866529
>>243866826

Not to mention that the school of Mensis uses/employs Pthumerian bellringers to aid in their rituals.
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>>243866070
>Not like the citizens of central Yharnam, Yah har ghul or old Yharnam
>yharnamite
>covered in rotting sores
>emaciated to the point of having visible skeleton structures beyond some pokey ribs on topless player models

Cainhurst used Pthumerian blood and thus started inheriting their traits. Ghosts appear in the labyrinths as well as Cainhurst. Again, Pthumerian blood. Logarius is also blatantly either Pthumerian or the product of experimentation with Pthumerian blood, he wields Pthumerian weaponry. Try again.

>OPINION
Now you're trolling me, have you never actually played through the chalice dungeons? Because all those things I mentioned are actually quite literally just there to see with your own two eyes.

Forest doesn't have piles and piles and PILES of bodies literally everywhere. Hemwick was a graveyard. A charnel house was a place where bones were stored. Also, infested with Mensis-sent witches.

>This is actually evidence against you
I'd really love to know how, considering Cainhurst abused Pthumerian blood and thus gave us Pthumerian beasts outside the labyrinths. But I'm sure you'll conveniently skip over that.

>like in the forbidden forest...
Like the place full of Nightmarish stuff sitting right between Yharnam, home to human experimentation, and Byrgenwerth, which is crawling with spooks?

>like 99% of everything else you fight?
And that's a point against me how, exactly? Are you so dense as totally ignore context?

You have baited me something fierce because I refuse to believe someone could play through this game and just not take in a single thing they witness, it's shocking.
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>>243866826
Did you get that from here? http://soulslore.wikidot.com/data:pthumeru

>>243866898
Not so sure about that. All of Mensis seems to have died long ago, and the Pthumerian maidens and snatchers seem to be using Yahar'gul for their own purpose. At least in my opinion.
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>>243867046
> Logarius is also blatantly either Pthumerian or the product of experimentation with Pthumerian blood, he wields Pthumerian weaponry. Try again.
So he's possibly a Pthumerian. Meaning they aren't long dead, if he comes from there? Think it through, man...

>evidence against you
because you're trying to argue that the place is long-dead. Yet you're also arguing that things still come from there.
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>>243867156

>All of Mensis seems to have died long ago
How so? They didn't die that long ago, because they weren't set up that long ago. Maybe you could argue that most of the characters in the game are long dead, existing only in dreams, but then...that doesn't help anyone's argument.
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>>243867156
>Not so sure about that
it's true though. The one reborn by mensis has a number of bell ringers aiding in it's continued existence/acting as midwives for it. They're clearly in league with mensis. Whether for their benefit or not, we can hardly say that Pthumeru is a dead civ when they're still running about.

It'd be like ancient Egyptians aiding in the FDA
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>>243867456
For one, they're mummified, although I guess you could say that when they got nuked the aged rapidly like in The Last Crusade.

But at least they seem to have died off before the events of the game. There are several mummified corpses wearing Mensis cages sitting around Yahar'gul during the first visit.
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>>243867797
Before the events of the game, sure. But the game takes place over a few days, really. Or even a night. Everything in-game happened before the game began.

But the point is that it wasn't THAT long ago. See for example Edgar, the informant for the choir that infiltrated Mensis. When you fight him, he is alive, and he'd have to be long dead if Mensis werelong dead. No point infiltrating corpses.
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>>243867989
They have died for a very long time. Evidence to suggest it is strongly implied through visually. Some of these petrified corpses have vines growing all over their bodies And right outside the cell you escape from when you submit yourself to the snatchers is a petrified corpse wearing a Mensis cage.
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>>243867315
It is established that Pthumerians have immortality and undeath, it is established the Church and its inner factions use Pthumerians/Pthumerian experimentation, PLEASE you have to be shitting me. You want to argue the Church Officials wandering the Cathedral Ward? Well, take for instance the pretty strange fact they're not weak to arcane like every single actual Pthumerian we encounter. It is not above the Church to dredge things out of the Labyrinths for their own sake.

>because you're trying to argue that the place is long-dead. Yet you're also arguing that things still come from there.
Okay, now, get this: the civilization, as a living, thriving entity, is long dead. It's rulers are, for all intents and purposes, gone. They were wiped out by the same problem Yharnam suffers. Now, just because their civilization is dead, doesn't mean that everything made or left behind mysteriously vanished. In fact, it's precisely because they left so much dangerous shit around that we get our current problem. Do you follow? It's the forbidden knowledge angle, which I will reiterate for your sake, isn't forbidden by some authority, but by the fact that it was knowledge better left untouched by mortals who cannot fathom it and end up making wretched beasts and freakish slugs. There are treasure rooms, chests, altars and sacrificial pits and things brimming with their leftovers. This is a concept that crops up in much older fiction Bloodborne takes heaps of inspiration from. Hell, I'll even argue Lovecraft - every pre-human civilization he presents us is powerful and monstrous, but at beat degraded and decadent and far past its golden age, sunken into degeneracy, or at worst, completely gone and left something awful behind. I don't know what else I can say here.
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>>243868342
Yet Damian is still alive. Iosefka is still alive (at the beginning anyway), and she has links with Mensis. And there are defectors.

Remember not all members of Mensis were scholars of mensis.
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>>243868537
>Pthumerian Civilization is long dead
>Pthumerians have immortality

You fucked yourself up in your first sentence.
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>>243868853
Iosefka is most likely a Choir member. She is conducting experiments on Celestials.
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>>243868945
Alright, you're clearly baiting me at this point, you cheeky cunt you got me. And I know it's bait because no one could believe what you just typed/
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>>243869124

Maybe, but her blood shows up in the nightmare of Mensis. Quite prominently.
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>>243869236
>no one could believe what you just typed/
You're the one who said it.

Face it. You have no evidence, and the real evidence (for instance, fucking Pthumerian chime maidens wandering around the unseen village) puts paid to your little headcanon.
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>>243869407
You have worked really hard this, and you got me, however it will not work a second time.
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The doll is the first great one enticed into the physical world by Pthumerians, and used as a conduit to guide great people into becoming ascended through blood echoes. She was dug up from Pthumeru and is both simultaneously alive and not alive, and therefore cannot die.
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>>243869609
Evidence, Chief. Still waiting.
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>>243869671
evidence:
>the moon presence has no power over her, and when it's dead, she persists, so she is the REAL master of the dream.
>she sleeps in the hunter's dream, so she has an existence elsewhere
>she is the only creature that bleeds pure white paleblood, rather than a grey serum (she is the paleblood that the good hunter must seek)
>she recognises what you are at the ascended ending, and even how you must "feel"
>she is literally the only character that provably has eyes on the inside
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>>243869671
>>243870532
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>>243870532
also:
>you need insight to see her, like the amygdala
>she takes care of the hunter, being kind and helping them grow, rather like a surrogate mother...
>she can control blood echoes, the only character that can do so
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>>243869671
>>243870532
I like your posts
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>>243870532
>>243870870

ALSO:
>from the item description of the doll's tear:
"Silver-shining tear stone."
>like the paleblood.
"A doll sheds neither blood nor tears and thus its nature remains unknown."
>which tells us that whatever she is, she isn't a doll as she does both
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>>243872070
>>243870870
>>243870532
>>243869671
I like it, but then what's the deal with the MP? Is it invading the Doll's territory when you fight it at the end?
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>>the moon presence has no power over her, and when it's dead, she persists, so she is the REAL master of the dream.
But the Dream was concieved by the Moon Presence as stated by the cord we find in Gehrman's Workshop in the Waking World.
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>>243872672
Well, my personal theory is that Gehrman was given/found the doll in the ruins for some reason, and when the MP got a hold of him, and he realised he was alone with the doll, it was all the company he had. The great one, being basically sympathetic, became a solace for him, helps to train hunters in a way that he can't, making them stronger through the use of guided ascension and blood echoes because when the hunt ends, Gehrman can rest. but when Mensis.MP ensure a neverending cycle of blood moons and hunts, it becomes clear that the only way to save Gehrman from the MP is to train a new hunter to kill it and become a new great one. One that it can take care of. It takes over the hunter's dream when the MP is dead, with you as it's comfy slugbabby. It's actually a happy ending in the long run. A great one with its surrogate, formed of love and redemption rather than greed and lust for evolution.
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>>243873034
Conceived by the MP, but the MP is definitely dead when you kill it, and the dream persists. The only possible thing that could be sustaining it is the doll.
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>>243873034
>But the Dream was concieved by the Moon Presence
"The Third Umbilical Cord precipitated the encounter with the pale moon, which beckoned the hunters and conceived the hunter's dream"

Perhaps the doll is the real pale moon. The moon presence acts like a beast, and bleeds red. She doesn't.
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What the fuck is dialation?
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>>243833994
I just get a USB and put FLAC music on it. I could never listen to spotify ads while spelunking.
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>>243874057
Shoving plastic dildos up the manhole to stop it from closing on itself.
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How can one weapon be so fun?
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>>243879080
It's also good at crushing Vilebloods.
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See these posts? This is shitposting. 'hurr ded' isn't shitposting, that's just faggotry. But the posts that make themselves seem righteous or pretend they have a point are the actual dedicated shitposters who've brought the quality of this general down in the past year or so. If you've been on /bbg/ for more than a few weeks, you know the quintessential hallmark of fucking faggots riling shit up is making little nicknames for their bogeyman. Waifuniggers, discord, /dsg/, it's all the same. Next thing you'll do is call me the shitposter, or your other bogeyman, probably with >implications and a reaction image, but frankly anyone with a smidgen of awareness can see right through you. Feel free to (You) me with an epic takedown or aloof non-reply. Your desperate deflection tactics are likely older than you people actually are.
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>>243880570
aloof non reply
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>>243880570
Does lorefagging classify as shitposting?
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>>243633376
I actually like this theory.
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>>243880570
/bbg/ is only currently alive thanks to some turboautismoid who's schizophrenic and thinks everyone is out to kill this dead shitheap. He even threatens cutting off his autism neet bumps if the general doesnt act the way he wants it to. Honestly it should just die given how low it sunk.
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>>243869671
>>243870532
>>243870870
>>243872070
>>243873146
>>243873217
>>243873874

You have autism. You have to stop this.
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> the very first run
> maxed vitality up to 50 before any other stat
> took the axe
> fished the gamed without any troubles
> 2nd run
> took the saw, maxed str, vit stopped at 25
> now I know that mobs can oneshot you, most bosses, even some traps
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>>243886448
Real men never go past 30vit.
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>>243886448
The axe is an OP starting weapon. Like seriously they should've made it a late game weapon.
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>trying to parry logarius
guns are so fucking slow, christ
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>>243887516
pre-emptive parries, anon. you already know his aggressive ass is attacking, like 99%
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>>243888000
Beastly digits
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>>243891328
I will never understand this comic but I laugh errytime
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>Gehrman: We don't have as many tools as we once did, but...

>Gehrman: You're welcome to use whatever you find.

>Gehrman: *whispers* ....Even the doll, should it please you...

How the FUCK else am I supposed to interpret this?
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>>243892626
Do you have eyes on the inside?
If you don't, well, I can assure you it's incredibly well lubricated.
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>>243891806
Look up "counter strike door stuck". It's a primal vidya maymay
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post LATEST hunters only
I only recently found the charred set because fuck it's pretty well hidden and I did not like lingering around djura's shooting gallery even with him dead
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>>243894427
>charred hunter set
>old hunter hat
Patrician taste lad
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>>243894949
I've always received compliments for my fashion. Thanks.
Old Hunter Hat goes with so much shit.
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>>243892626
Gehrman is the same mud as virgin anime girl avatar incels that ERP with other virgins over here. He's sunk low enough that he wants people to fuck his (fake) waifu.
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>>243895097
>highly decorated and finetailored explorer garb
>ragged, worn and inconvenient old hunter hat and face shawl for protection from fire smoke
>matches well
Some people really have shit taste hug
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>>243896372
Well the lore doesn't piece together nicely but
>High collar to wide brim
Popular design choice, see Warhammer Inquisitors
>hat leather matches shawl color
It's in the color palette.
>large hat, high collar, face mask
Very little blood is going to get on your skin and hair and shit.
Also, Indian Jones buys new clothes, but never replaces his hat.
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Question about limb damage. Is it poise damage dealt or actual damage dealt that breaks limbs? Could a few bullets destroy the limbs of a boss if Bone Ashed and built properly? On that note, would a proper Bloodtinge build be able to benefit better off shooting a staggered enemy a few times over instead of a visceral attack?
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>>243897886
I'm 99% sure it's damage-based.

Possibly. If not shooting, just R1ing another body part.
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>>243873146
Kinda late, but the doll exists in the real world, it's a model of Maria made presumably by Gherman.

Though maybe the doll in the dream is a representation of that, given that Gherman is the only person that seems to live there, and other hunters just come and go.
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>>243900894
doesn't explain much about the doll, though. Why it has paleblood, why insight makes you able to see it animated it in the dream, how it knows the name of the moon presence, how it sustains the dream after the MP's death..

Besides, is Maria even mentioned in the main game? I thought she was an addition to OH
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>>243901067
>Why it has paleblood
That's how Gehrman made her.
>how it sustains the dream after the MP's death
Answered your own question; the paleblood.
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>>243901174
Gehrman is able to basically MAKE a Great One?

wew. what?
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>>243901242
I don't know, I'm just fucking off. I think the Dream is sustained in post-game because, it's a fucking game. But I mean, why not? She's capable of manipulating blood echos. Who knows what else she can do?
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>>243901403
>I think the Dream is sustained in post-game because, it's a fucking game.
Actually no wait fuck that. In Yharnam Sunrise, you don't kill MP, in taking Gherman's spot, you don't kill MP, and when you kill MP, you become the Great One that sustains the Dream.
It's consistent.
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>>243901635
>you become the Great One that sustains the Dream. It's consistent.

You'd have no reason to. It was the will of the MP to continue the hunts.
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>>243901635
>>243901834

Not to mention that you'd have no reason to keep it looking like it the abandoned workshop that was so close to Gehrman and the Doll.
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>>243901834
Maybe it's assumed that the Hunter shares MP's motivation, especially after absorbing its blood echoes?

Maybe once a new plane is created it doesn't need to be maintained to continue existing? We're not thrown out of Mensis as soon as we kill Wetnurse/Brain, we're not thrown out of Frontier after we kill Amygdala.

You're looking at this shit too hard.
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>>243902058
>You're looking at this shit too hard.
How so? Is it harmful in some way to examine something I like? I'm hardly going to break it.

I'm still going with the Doll, actually. The gravestones always bugged me, because why would the MP allow it? But the doll as a great one makes much more sense. They can be sympathetic, after all.

To be expected, perhaps. Guess i'm on the level of all of those "The Emerald Herald is the Cursed One's queen" theorists. OH WELL
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>>243902247
I hope one day Miya actually gives us the official canon for Bloodborne or even the rest of the other Souls games. Like yea, I get the appeal of interpreting the lore yourself, but wouldn't it be nice to have loose ends tied?
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>>243902714
>I hope one day Miya actually gives us the official canon for Bloodborne or even the rest of the other Souls games.

Eh. Nah, I don't think i'd even bother reading it, if he did bring out some..ultra guide. I don't really believe in "official canon" once a work is out in the public, anyways. It's just more fun to assume everything is part of the canon, even down to the lowliest fan work.
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What are you currently working on /bbg/?
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>>243904305
Reworking a 120m2 floor, getting the old wood out, egalising the bitch and putting tiles in there
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>>243904305
Fell for the chemical engineering meme. Studying.
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>>243904305

On spring festival break until the beginning of March. Reading a lot and trying to finally learn the piano.
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>>243904305
getting the girl I have a crush on to like me back
I will fail miserably as usual and make a wheel twink to shit on people in woods
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>>243904998
>>243905193
>>243905338
>>243905775
I meant in Bloodborne
but its cool to hear about other stuff too
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>>243865034
That was interesting to read. I've always been fascinated by the Pthumerian's fondness for undeath. I wish I could know more about their reasons for that.

I'm curious which four Pthumerian enemies could be considered "alive". Were you referring to the bell-ringing women, the kidnappers, the Pthumerian Descendant, and Queen Yharnam herself?
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>>243907840
Working on Orphan, Laurence and Loran Darkbeast on my BL4
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>>243908527
Descendent, Elder, Queen and maidens
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>>243904998
something from your niggerspeak tells me you're a muttnik
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>>243901923
That's a fun thought.

I'd love if I could change the Hunter's Dream's aesthetic in NG+ or something if you got the "good" ending. They could have given you the option to make it look like the Nightmare of Mensis, Byrgenworth, or a part of the Church Ward/Workshop, depending on your character's background or theme.
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>>243908981
good luck
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>>243909934
I'm not a native anglotard so it's all internet-taught. To be honest I'm more of a west-euro equivalent of a redneck.
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>>243912301
Gaeltacht?
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has everyone from here migrated to the /tv/ threads? geez
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>>243840596
>>243841101
>>243844490
Building off what these anons said, is there any lines you find yourself repeating in your head? For me it's "oh yes..paleblood" and "beasts all over the shop..you'll be one too..sooner or later"
It's been 3 years lads
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>>243915275
Yes.
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>>243915526
>"Our eyes are yet to open"
And
>"Kos, or some say Kosm"
It's good to reminisce.
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>>243915526
Everything micolash says

I wish i could get Gascoine lines in my head but they don't stick
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>>243915526
"A-haaa... you. must be. the new. Hunter!"
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>"Gehrman surely saw the hunt as a dirge of farewell, wishing only that his prey might rest in peace, never again to awaken to another harrowing nightmare."
>"You must accept your death, be freed from the night."

The fucking feels, man
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>struggling to farm frc rom
>remember i have a whirligig saw
>fortify and gem it up
>bbp + bolt paper
>L2
>rom becomes easiest farm
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>>243915526
>hoonter must hoont
>of course I love you, isn't that how you made me
>do you think water drips down at the bottom of the sea
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>>243915526
"An unsightly beast... A great terror looms!"
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>>243915526
>You think now to betRAY ME
>Vvveeeerrrry well (only part of the doll's dialogue I hear every time I'm spamming X to level up)
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Would you?
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Does anybody know what the whispers say when you gain insight through a Madman's Knowledge or a Great One's Knowledge? I find with the Great One's Knowledge you can hear the whispers clearer because you don't have the big clanging sound that plays when you use a Madman's Knowledge.
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>>243915526
I can still recite a bunch of Halo 2 cutscenes word for word. It's autism, all right.
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>>243918503
It's just spooky sounds, it's a library noise I've heard elsewhere.
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>>243918448
No. It's you. You're the beast. It's utter madness.
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Anyone about? Ringing at Lower Loran- I’ve been able to clear every dungeon up to this point on my 99 Arc build, but Darkbeast is a bitch and a half. Pass is bbg
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>>243915526
"All mangled and twisted, with every inside on the outside for all the world to see!"
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>>243915526
YOU DEVIOUS RAT
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>>243921437
CURSED BEAST
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>>243920240
Focus down one leg at a time. You can keep locked down until he dies if you're accurate.
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The voice acting, although sparse, is very fucking well done in Bloodborne.
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>>243921653
YOU, YOU ARE NOT WANTED HERE
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>>243922050
I’m trying, but my melee damage is currently shit because Pre-FRC arcane gems are awful, and my spells are so slow he just starts smacking me around. Boss is hard.
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>>243922779
shoot gloves at him he's weak to arcane
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>>243922779
Throw two or three 16% fire gems in a Saw.

Have you not gotten him yet? I know the moment I turn my PS4 on Albatross will cuck me, but if you absolutely need it I might be assed to log in, because he's one of my favorite bosses.
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>>243923118
I haven’t, to my annoyance. Every boss up to here, I’ve cleared in one or two tries. Chalice Amy is a joke. This guy? Absolute cunt. I’ll wait for you if you’re gonna boot it up!
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>>243923212
Yeah, what the hell. I love me some Darkbeast.

Give me five.
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>>243923212
Alright, I'm on. You wanna set a password and I'll use the SRRC.
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>>243918132
>>do you think water drips down at the bottom of the sea
I don't know why, but that phrase always creeps me out.
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>>243923667
Pass is bbg. I’ll try to not die right off the bat when we fight him, 20 vitality is pain.
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>>243923972
I'm rusty as shit so we can get stomped together a couple times. Ringing now.
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>>243923972
Based SRRC. Somebody show up? Standing far enough away from the boss' door?
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>>243924554
Mhm. Bell isn’t crossed out, network set to worldwide, nobody else has hopped in. Pass is still ‘bbg’, minus apostrophes. This is fucky.
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>>243924554
>>243924787
I'll try to srrc too
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>>243924787
It pinged a second ago, but it's not sending me in, heh.
Is this a false depth or something?
If you want I'll just run down to L3.
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>>243923972
Can I come too?
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>>243924926
>>243924949
>>243925039
If you lot all want to, I’m still ringing. Max is two though, if I recall. I’m in no real hurry, because it’s this or go bulldoze through Mensis to grab the Choir Bell. Just silenced and re-rang so let’s see if it works.
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>>243925197
I didn't see that other guy, I don't wanna cuck anyone. Let us know if you're doing stuff later, though.
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>>243925197
I got the jews come up from the gravestone too but nothing else is happening. I'll try to speedrun to L3
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>>243925421
I gave up after the third person asked to come along, so feel free to join.
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>>243925452
No rush, my man. I’ll be ringing the whole time if someone else wishes to jump in.
>>243925421
Probably will be! Bloodborne is my addiction for the third time now, and a 99 ARC build is proving fun. I’m eager to try out the Choir Bell at 99 ARC...
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>>243925742
Ringing on L3 now, maybe it'll work better than srrc
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>>243925982
Hell yeah. Pass is still bbg, I’m in the hallway to the arena.
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i've done pvp so much i have four 10+ weapons, one +9 weapon, and five 8+ weapons

i'm not even on NG+
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>>243926465
>four 10+
You are like a baby.
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>>243927136
what NG(+) are you? as i said, i haven't done any yet
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This is... really unusual. I’ve been SRRCing with a friend almost nightly, and haven’t seen it take so long.
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>>243927204
NG.
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>>243927274
well i feel less autistic now. thank you
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>>243927261
I don't think you're waiting for anyone, or they aren't waiting for you.

Someone ran to L3 and rang, and I imagine they've killed Darkbeast by now.

>>243927380
Words can hurt you know.
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>>243927261
>>243926365
I'm still ringing on L3 too. Usually it goes faster. Maybe host needs to restart PS4? I get the "Lost connection to the network." but it doesn't connect shortly thereafter like it usually does.
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>>243927465
i'm sorry :(
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>>243927505
I just restarted the PS4, actually, rang again, all that. It just isn’t working!
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Oh wow, just got a cooperator in- gonna be running Darkbeast now!
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>>243928265
has /bbg/ sunk to a blogpost central?
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Eyyyy Julia, sick looking build you have. Not often a charscter’s appearance stands out that way- thanks for the help!
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>>243928494
>said the metaposter
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>>243928680
Happy I could help!
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At least I got to put the disc in the PS4 and log in, and listen to the SRRC for 20 minutes.
Glad you got to kill Darkbeast though.
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>>243928701
>he implies blogposting is somehow better than metaposting
/bbg/ is literally nothing more than a discord shatroom right now.
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>>243928746
Yeh. 2:35 EST for me, I’ll likely be doing more at like, 10-11 EST if you’re around later. Maybe Chalice Dungeons, if only bevause base game is so easy doing it with cooperators almost feels rote. If you’re around then, mite be fun.
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>>243928680
What was the build?
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>>243928916
Sorry anon, I wasn’t sure who was and wasn’t ringing at that point. Next boss that’s Fun, drop your char name and I can wait till you’re in?
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>>243929221
Eh, I called as much when I first replied, so.
Yeah, maybe.
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>>243928494
>playing the game the thread is about together
wow what a crime
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>>243929467
Actually, I’m gonna go through the Hunter’s Nightmare, I think. Since you’re already on, wanna do that? I’d hate for you to waste your time for nothing.
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AWAY!
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Ringing at Hunter’s Nightmare lamp, gonna try and beat Ludwig. Pass is bbg, if anyone wants in
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>>243915526
best voiceacting ever
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>>243930996
>Don't like that? Well,
>Pish posh. Catch, us, if, you can, in this drrream, auv, drrreams.
Why did they remove this
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>>243930996
>Game: Bloodborne
>Franchise: Dark Souls
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>>243931749
bloodborne is a souls game.
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>>243929724
Sorry for the late reply. I appreciate the offer though.
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Who is schlicking in the tree in the garden of the Abandoned Workshop?
>Hmhmhm, yes...
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>>243932170
You’re fiiiiine.

Unrelatedly, ringing again, Austen. Sorry, had my hands full with the other tentacle axe giant. Will be at the second lamp in the Nightmare.
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Eyyyy, nice- beating that asshole in one go is a treat. Thanks Austen!

On arcane builds, the damage is great at 99 ARC... but it doesn’t seem to significantly outstrip weapon damage on 50 STR/SKL/BLT builds, and the bullet expenditure is insane. Am I missing something?
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>>243931885
Call of Duty is a quake game
>>243933758
Blood Bullets. With enough heals, you can have effectively 145 bullets.
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>>243930996
>That one anon who was convinced that David Bowie voiced Micolash but wasn't credited
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>>243933758
for weapons you reach 85% stat saturation at 50 in a stat. 99 is 100% stat saturation. so you won't see a huge difference using your weapons. the 99 arc meme is mostly for tools. I think it started with someone taking the "how to setup arcane builds" literally and just pumped arcane to 99 and actually disregarded all other stats. since the tools continue scaling very well all the way up to 99 it becomes a sort of glass cannon build, using the tools and keeping a safe distance.
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>>243931749
the great ones are the lords of cinder
the main hero - sleepless one
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people who say there are no brown people in Bloodborne are fucking retarded
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>>243934156
Fucking WHAT now?
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>>243937262
Henryk and the Yahargul hunters are brown
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>>243937864
>>243937262
https://youtu.be/I7dHlA_aUC8

07:00 Yahar'Gul (Claws)
07:40 Yahar'Gul (Rifle)
08:32 Yahar'Gul (Cane)
10:49 Henryk
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>>243937262
Eileen VA is also brown
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>>243937689
I don't remember if it was here or on /v/ but we managed to wind up some anon into believing that David Bowie was an uncredited VA for Micolash. Some anons edited the fextra wikis and linked them here kek
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Does Beast Mode increase damage of guns?
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>>243940261
no just physical damage
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>>243937262
what about Asians
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>>243941981
Yamamura the wanderer, which is also the name of the actual guy who took part of the artistic direction for Bloodborne (now Sekiro). Cool easter egg.
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What's the correct way to dodge Bloodletting Beast's Falcon Punch? I'm realizing now on my low Vigor build that I've always been just surviving it.
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Hotdog in 1D 01 0A 02 is weird
>>243945497
Just time it, it has like a 1.5 second windup and he never does it when you're close so you really shouldn't be seeing it anyway
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>>243945497
I either just outrange it or dodge through it a bit to the right, it's a pretty narrow window though.
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>>243946657
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>>243946657
>you really shouldn't be seeing it anyway
I get pancaked, he jumps away, and is doing it by the time I get up.
That double forearm slam animation should just be replaced with a bodyslam, it never looks like it should hit me when it does.
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Questions from a casual player

1. Is the community max level still 120? I leveled my first character to 210 in NG+3 and the game isn't too challenging, but I can't summon for ludwig or orphan

2. Is it OK to level up to 180 for NG+7. I can still summon people and everything still two-shots you

3. Did any one else fall for the 99+ arcane meme?
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>>243946657
>>243946954
They made it so its AI can showcase its entire moveset without having to waste time fishing for every specific attack.
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>>243947185
A lot of players go 120, you'll probably get more coop around 80 if you're looking for that but i'm not sure you'll find anybody around 200.
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>>243947185
The whole point of NG+ to me is increasing difficulty, why do people continue to level up to offset it? My NG+ character is BL80, I think I'm on +5 or +6. Most people here stop at or around BL98. Most people outside of here stop at BL120-150.
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>>243946657
>>243946954
Cool stuff. Are you messing around with the developer menu or something?
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>>243947137
You should make a str build to force yourself to farm HBLB for Heavy Abyssal gems. Every single attack become easy to avoid after that, including the hitboxes. The only negative thing about this is that you tend to forget that the normal BLB does that grab and snack-attack if you linger underneath him for too long.
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>>243947959
No it's just a dev chalice
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>dissatisfied with the stat spread of my current build
>have to redo the entire game

This is why a respec system is good. I hope if there's a BB2 they introduce one like in DSIII.
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>>243948404
if only there was a way to plan out a build before allocating points
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>>243949582
>Make a build that diverts a few extra points into a non efficient stat to try out a new weapon
>I end up not liking it

Gee, I guess I'll go ahead and waste another 4 hours getting to where I was with my new build!
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>>243947652
Again, casual player. This was my first soulsgame and I want a heavier challenge. Also this >>243948404 I want a true Arcane Wizard build, but I still want to be able to coop. my next build will either be that or skill/bloodtinge for pvp
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So, the Rifle Spear is kinda crappy eh?
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>>243950569
Every
Thing
Is
Viable
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>>243950569
It's really good solo, but co-op fucks with the damage. The shotgun is the best way to deal damage without using any stamina.
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Is this decent for a low level SKL build? The strenght is for Burial Blade. Should I lower END a little bit more?
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>>243950351
99 arc is mostly just for using the tools. and if you use tools you can stay far away so you don't need a lot of vit. 50 arc is enough for converting weapons, and most tools are good enough at that much arc too. you could make a build with 50 arc then the minimum str/skl needed for all weapons to be able to convert them and keep it under BL100.
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>>243952007
looks good but I would get 30 vit and 25 skl. you might also benefit more from putting the 2 points from end into str. or start military veteran 30/10/14/25/7/6 for even more str and less end. but it comes down to personal preference, especially on a low level build
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>>243945497
>>243950569
Rifle Spear is FUN. Charged R2 is the best shit.
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>>243765880
>He is the most bullshit boss
You seem to be getting Laurence and Rom mixed up, friend.
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>>243957794
Rom is easy shit, I don't know why people have so much trouble with her.
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>>243957957
It's not her they have problems with. I personally never had an issue with her my first 3 playthroughs, but now her meteors are always heatseeking, and almost ALWAYS a one-shot. I can't imagine what she was like pre-patch, nor do I want to know.
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Now it is dead

Come hither

>>243960701
>>243960701
>>243960701
>>243960701
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>>243960847
>1 post early
Fucking retarded newfag.
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wait shit lmao now it's ded
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>ring beckoning bell
>get someone within 2 minutes

>ring beckoning bell with a password to get a friend in
>after two hours, still nothing

WUT
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>>243922139
It's because they hire theatre actors instead of voice actors to play the part.
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>>243928680
>>243929131
What was the build though?
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>>243950569
I like dropping a few delayed molotovs then using the fireblast to obscure my tricked R2 chargeup. Killed a few people that way.



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