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Laughing lizards Edition

>News
- Patch 1.2.1 released: https://www-aaaba-lp1-hac.cdn.nintendo.net/en-US/b983283e/index.html
- Partner Pikachu/Eevee spirits can be redeemed depending on which "Let's Go" game you have.

>How to play Ultimate with /vg/
- Create a custom arena with rules set as 3 stock, 7 minutes, no items/spirits
- Post arena ID in thread, can be found in the "arena settings" button in the top left
- Password is 7243 (rage)
- State your region and player count or any rule changes.
- Try to limit arenas to 4 players to avoid long waiting lines/lag.

>DLC
- Register the game at My Nintendo by Jan. 31st to get Piranha Plant for free: https://smashbros.nintendo.com/buy/
- Fighters Pass (5 DLC Characters + 5 Stages + Music Tracks + Rex Mii outfit) available for $25 on the eShop.
- Joker from the Persona series is the first Fighters Pass character.

RESOURCES:
>How to improve your online connection
http://archive.is/GvgOP
>Character unlock requirements (CONTAINS SPOILERS)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Lrf8YZUcZz5JpfTrDaR-2VLKZCSzKgEpjgU3jXL1FYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true
>All character movesets
https://imgur.com/gallery/9X04NV8
>Advanced character details (Weight, walk speed, frame data, etc)
http://www.kuroganehammer.com/Ultimate
>Tourney stage list maker
https://bans.page/create.html
>Tier list maker
https://ssbworld.com/create/tier-list/ultimate/
>Make your main roster
https://apps.warchamp7.com/smash/rosterUlt/
>All character renders
https://imgur.com/gallery/aZClIlk
>Soundtrack download (new songs only)
https://mega.nz/#!5FM1XCrS!aQU8-5rXXMrZBusDhwhCjd_RKVX9NQesGs6lxHx-k7U
>Character frame data (E3 demo)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k3APyiQk0fu1KCqq-t9Fk2zmmSvcEH8rBy6GVAHEtQk/edit?usp=drivesdk

Previous >>240626293
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How do I git gud with Random?
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First for everyone laugh at pathetic genofags.
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>>240677797
Who is Geno?
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You have 10 seconds to explain why you aren't maining Mii Gunner right now
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why did nintendo forget to give dr. mario a taunt
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1V1
East Coast, random tourney stagelist
ID: 6F1Q5
PW: 2515
1/5
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There will be small tournament for fun this weekend from people of 4chan.
Join and read the rules pls

https://challonge.com/jz6tzpb6

>”but I’m bad!”
Don’t worry, it’s an online tournament which has no value for the real “competitive” scene, just for fun
Besides, you can get a taste of what does a tournament feels like.
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>>240677895
Because i already play as Samus and my favorite Mii gunner setup is basically Samus again.
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>>240677895
because no matter which hilarious mii I use it's so boring to play
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>>240677628
Can anyone recommend some Ridley guides?
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how do I deal with cloud's fucking side-B?

it's fast, it's huge, it's safe, and it hurts. I'm sick of fighting this character.
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>>240677993
So the local weekly tourney host already gave up huh
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>>240677993
What region though?
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>>240677895
>get to elite smash finally
>lose 10 matches without the other player trying at all
I thought mii gunner was supposed to be good!
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>>240678202
>online
>region
Most of them live in America
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>>240678105
man the fuck up
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Why is Ryu so bad? Like he can be played well sure, but for fucks sake all of his kill moves are high risk. His Bair is fine but he doesnt have the fade or air speed to really rely on it.
To make matters worse, you cant turn off the input commands on A and just use B for them, which can lead to misinputs if you dont return your stick to neutral consistently.
Being able to cancel your attacks into specials is great, but god help you if you whiff any of them otherwise.

I'm just getting frustrated here. I've played everyone and I love Ryu as a character but he feels like climbing a mountain bare handed.
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>>240678313
what does that even mean in this context
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fuck
marry
kill
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>>240678280
>>online
>>region
What is this supposed to mean
Are you implying that a connection between a britbong and a yank wouldn't be bad
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I never learned in 4, but Bayo's Ladder is generally started with
>a heel side
>Into two after burner kicks
After that, is that where I have to do the 3 frame jump to reset the kicks?
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Hello I am trying to play sheik
how do I kill
please help I don't want to have to get my opponent to 200% every match
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>>240678105
>bait them and then jump and then attack
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Why are most of the newcomers boring to play as compared to old timers?
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>>240678105
>it's safe
Not on shield it aint. Either predict it coming or keep cloud in the air/edge guarded. Avoid fighting him on the ground, he has the advantage.
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>>240678369
>light tilts are unsafe
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>>240678391
holy fuck samus is giant
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>>240677895
I like Mii gunner but they feel too slow to actually kite people. I played a Chrom recently and it was just nonstop ungabunga right up in my face. It was really oppressive, and either I was doing something wrong or Gunner's projectiles don't actually pressure enough to keep swordies at bay
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>>240678391
Looks like something from 2005.
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>>240678369
Do the same as every other Ryu Main
switch to Ken
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>>240678406
>how do i kill
You don't
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>>240678450
Ridley is pretty fun, athe rest are abit dull though.
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>>240678450
Ridley, Isabelle and Richter are growing on me
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>>240678574
put a bomb on the ground so they have to approach from the air, then just nair/fair them to death

mii gunner nair is super good

fair makes you jump backwards slightly, so you can fair->forward smash if the opponent isnt expecting it
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>>240678805
>Challenging a swordie's aerials with your own, unless you're another swordie
I am extremely skeptical
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Fucking epic pk thunder there.
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>>240678474
Light tilts are fine and they can set up the specials sure. Thats the only way to set them up and you absolutely need them to set up True shoryu.

>>240678646
I don't really like Kens chaarcter, but hell I might have too. At least if your shoryu has several fucking hitboxes that can KO
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>>240679046
fair is a projectile you fucking retard

fair the swordie whenever they jump and they cant approach you
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fuck pichu

>dude what if we made the joke character actually top tier
hacks
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>>240677628
>>240677797
>>240677825
kek
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Any criticism is welcomed
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>>240679225
start taking your meds you autistic fuck
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>>240678391
tfw no bowsette in smersh
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>>240679108
Sadly Ryu got really shafted compared to 4.
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>>240679374
I know, I'm thankful everyday that nintendo almost never acknowledge retarded fan shit.
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>>240679225
>wii fit in the same tier as fucking wario
are you overweight by any chance
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>>240679374
Play Bowser
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>>240677993
>Falkore
>Serpent
>Moxy
>Rakyy
>Pame
Boys are back in town
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>>240679225
>Mewtwo
>cannot converse
???
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>>240679392
Yeah I guess I just have to accept that. Better players can make him work, but he might just be a peak to high for me
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>>240679225
Megaman isnt a child, even when he looks like a shota he really doesnt act like a kid.
Hes MegaMAN, after all.
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>>240678805
They can just ftilt the bomb away lol
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>>240679594
Ken= Dishonest
Ryu=Honest
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>>240679703
Megaman is suppose to be modeled after a 10 year old boy. While he isn't one obviously he is shown to behave and act as one.
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>>240679703
Yeah I know, but he's pretty one-note and does act like a kid sometimes, he doesn't exactly fit into that tier but I didn't want to make one just for him
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>>240679818
anyone with a shoryuken is dishonest
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>>240678398
>between a britbong and a yank
I live in New York and while I dont know about Nintendo games I do know when i play PC shooters I can connect to UK servers with zero lag and sub 70 ping.
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How viable is it to try to actually jump on squirtle during its sibe b? I try it occasionally but can never get it to work.
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>>240679848
>modeled after a 10 year old
Which megaman game says this?
>he is shown to behave like one
such as...?
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>>240679514
I want to titty fuck bowser
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>>240679848
umm....
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>>240679848
He's a robot
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>>240680090
the cartoon
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>>240679818
>SHOORYUKEN
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>>240680254
>US boxart
>canon
Are you retarded?
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>>240680420
>cartoons are canon
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>>240680420
You mean the garbage cringe-inducing new one or the slightly less garbage old one?
Because in the old one he was clearly an adult man, and if the new one is canon I'll eat my shoes.
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>>240673839
I got stomped by some basedman that was streaming during that alpharad sm4sh tourney we raided a couple years ago. The general was full of "why is wonderswan rolling so much" and it felt bad man
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>>240680049
incredibly. The poor guy is stuck in end lag for about 1000 years.
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>>240673839
I dont know if any of you remember Panchito vs O'Malley, but I'm O'Malley.
I lost, but even a place as nasty as 4chan didnt have too many mean things to say. If you arent garbage, even openly hostile people wont call you garbage.
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>>240680049
i mean worst case you miss but since you actually jumped he didn't hit you anyway
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>mfw getting a ko with mega man's uair
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>>240680791
>>240680985
Join the new tournament
>>240677993
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>>240681127
Don't pretend like his uptilt isn't less satisfying
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>>240681147
shut up discordfag
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>>240680806
Any tips on getting it I mean? I usually try to just do a quick short hop but always miss it.
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I hate stages with middle platforms so much
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>>240681187
I mean is less satisfying damnit
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How do I play ganon and not just spam sword smash attacks?
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>>240681387
try using his other moves
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>>240680985
>if you aren't garbage, people won't call you garbage
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>>240677993
what is /sbff/?
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>>240681550
Super Big Faggots Forever
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>>240678450
My brother's actually said something that may answer this; Smash4 was Sakurai doing what HE wanted. Ultimate is more about relenting to what the FANS wanted.
Most of the newcomers got in cuz they were long-time requested or simply popular. Not cuz Sakurai was inspired to make them into fighters or interested in how they'd work. Ridley & K. Rool are obvious. Chrom & Dark Samus are generic. Isabelle & Daisy would've been novel, but were pre-empted.
Compare that to Smash 4. Who actually WANTED Rosalina, Duck Hunt, Robin & Wii Fit? Who ASKED for Cloud to have Limit Breaks, Mac to have a KO meter, Ryu to have OGSF combos etc? "Screw what the audience thinks its wants; I'm having too much making vidya."
Only Inkling & Belmont really satisfy both halves of the equation. They're from popular IPs, and are novel in their game-design. Incineroar's probably the most "Sakurai" pick; he's not all that high on the list of like 800 possible choices but is fun AF to play IMOTBQHWYF.
Alternative, shorter answer: The gimmick of this one WAS old timers. So that's where all the attention went. Updating their moves, giving them flavor text, making them fit into the damn chip, etc.
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What are some good characters for a shitter who's trying to get used to the game?
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>>240679514
That's kinda hot!
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>>240681387
Try pressing the jump button. This is important, as it's the basic first step to winning the game, and pressing it repeatedly can help you figure out of if your character is garbage..
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He is literally fucking in.
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>>240681719
Mario
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>>240681719
As far as "balanced" characters go Mario, Pit, Inkling, and Lucina are all characters designed to be well rounded.
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>>240681719
the miis unironically
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>>240680641
Well, I mean...
TBF there's Street Fighter X Tekken...
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>>240681879
>>240681918
>>240681924
Ok, thanks.
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>>240681852
So once you're off the stage, you die.
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>>240681719
>good characters for a shitter
ganondorf, chrom
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i think chrom sucks!
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Why the fuck does that little yellow rat do so much damage and combo so effortlessly
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>Play Smash with my brother
>He's completely motivated because of all the videos he watches
>Win about 20 times in a row
>He's not even pissed, just dead inside and stops playing
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>>240682761
Textbook case of knowledge growing faster than skill.
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How the FUCK do you L-cancel without doing shield in melee?
You press L or R right as you land right?
I'm using 20XX but it just uses shield.
Its not fluid like the pros.
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this input lag is ridiculous
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Woomer
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>>240682950
How to close the gap? Training mode doesn't help me much I feel.
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>>240683096
right before you land
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>>240683478
That's what I'm doing but it always shields.
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>AI Inkling can instantly throw out a max range ink bomb
pedophiles will defend this
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what are the non cosmetic differences, if any, between base and dark samus or peach and daisy?
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Ggs ssbg lobby. Time for teams with /v/kend
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>>240683096
7 Frames before you land, and make sure to let go of the trigger before your end-lag is finished. You can even let go before you land, if your finger twitches quickly enough. Likely you're either holding the trigger down a little, or are just doing it too late.
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Anyone joining the tournament?
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>>240683523
Then do it faster.
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How do I Rosalina good?
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>>240683432
Training mode can help, because there is an input barrier to smash. Practice putting out your aerial just as you land so that the hitbox is synchronized with the beginning of the landing lag. Practice your character's combo moves. Practice fast falling so that you reach the ground faster.

After that, just play. Put your training into practice. That's all there is to it. Just play more. You'll hear certain players sometimes mention "bootcamp". They play offline against other good players for hours. Get muscle memory, get the right reactions.

Review your matches and point out what you did right and what you did wrong. Do the same for your opponent. Did you drop combos? Practice that. Use the wrong move in neutral? Recognize that. Learn character specific strategies.
>>240684187
Rosa is weak in this game.
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>>240684187
The only good Roselina is a dead Roselina
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>>240684151
Still thinking about it even though I'd probably get bodied hard
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>>240683890
dark samus roll is 3 frames faster
dark samus up smash hits lower (can hit smaller opponents on the ground)
normal samus missiles and charge shot fire slightly higher above the ground than dark samus's
samus's f-smash has slightly more range
dark samus d-tilt, f-smash, and up smash have electric effect
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>>240678391
Fuck Bowser after taking the crown off, marry Zelda, kill the rest
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>>240684354
sounds pretty cool
so dark samus is essentially the midget killer?
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>>240684283
gay
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>>240684454
yeah, but the really small characters wont get scooped up by either up smash and any character that can low profile the missiles can do so for both samuses. the missile/cs difference seems to matter more for catching jumps in which case normal samus is better
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>>240678391
>samus
>princess
just what kind of girl do you take her for?
bowsette was unironically a really fun fad, even a tiny nod would be nice
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>>240684756
I was mostly joking
so is there really much different in their performance? I assume the up smash can be used for different strings at different % from base, and the electric attacks help start strings up?
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>>240677895
I play Mii Swordie instead

Gunner is fun but I like swords
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>>240684151
Yes
>>240684315
None of them are actually hard to fight against
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>>240684932
I like the concept of bowsette but it really bothers me that it's just a copy paste of peach. Anything to make it more bowser and less peach like red hair and darker skin would have been better.
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>boomerang
>fire arrow
>run in to grab
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HELP ME FIGURE OUT GANON
I keep either dominating them or getting edge killed over and over
If I get hit off the stage it's like I can't make it back no matter what
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>>240685089
the difference is pretty tiny at the end of the day, pick which ever you think looks cooler. i think dtilt is somewhat safer on shield for dark samus, but it isnt a particularly good move in the first place so its mostly a wash
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>>240685224
>it's just a copy paste of peach
eh, I never minded it but I can see your point
and regardless of looks barafags were on to something all along: bowser is a pretty cool dude in general if you take the rpgs and stuff into account
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Do people have trouble with Dark Samus? I picked her randomly and she's already my highest at 2.9 mil, i dont even really know how to play her/it, I just know that Neutral B has a fuckhuge hitbox
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>>240684162
Then it air dashes.

Also does anyone know how to do marth down air into up b?
I see people going down and down airing from the ledge and still being able to up b back up but the lag is like 5 seconds whenever I try and I can never recover.
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>>240685487
Dont get hit off the stage
Work on hard reads and neuteal mid like every other heavy m8
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>>240685531
well sounds about right for an echo then, thanks
I generally go for dark because the blue flame effects and creepy tendril charge shot are baller as hell
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>>240685708
cant argue with that, her animations are top notch
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Good games guys, thanks for playing in my arena.
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>>240677628
So the Smash Ultimate theme, did you rike it eryrere?
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>>240685604
if you don't do the dair rising out of a double jump you probably can't make it back to ledge
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>>240686192
Claus is turned into a Chimera and then he commits suicide. Thats the plot of Mother 3.
Also Lucas's mom fucking dies and Porky is behind it all
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>>240686280
No. It's the worst theme out of all the games.
Brawl > 4 > Melee > 64 > U
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>>240686192
GGs. Can you give me some tips on getting better with mario?
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GGs TheBird. super fun games. sorry i kept going to spectate, a lot of stuff going on around my house.

Pretty solid characters.

which one was your main?
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>>240686410
Okay, what was the point of posting this?
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>>240686478
Brawl's theme was garbage and honestly made me return the game(who the fuck puts opera in a fighting game).

Melee's theme was Kino.
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Anyone here play any Project M lately?
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Is this accurate?
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Ganon can't beat palutena. Projectile spam is all online is based on.
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>>240686652
Because I can.
Mother 3 Will never be localized and mother 4 will be in hibernation until everyone stops caring.

>>240686672
Just mute the game lmao, fucking wasting money over dumb shit
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>>240686609
GGs dude, felt like I was finally getting the hang of your Yink, really frustrating to play against, especially with poor Kirby.
Bowser is my main most likely. I wanted K. Rool but he's way too easy to punish. Need more practice against projectiles with Mac, he was my main in Sm4sh but this is a whole new game.
Your Duck Hunt Dog was really good, if I have only one criticism, it would be to shield more often, or dash away and wait. I kept getting you with Bowser's dair.
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I don't even hate Fire Emblem characters, I just hate how common they are. Half of all my online matches are a FE character or Cloud. Damnit, just pick someone else, there are 75 characters.
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anyone else have characters stuck in /EloHell/

in my experience, the ranks below 100,000 are full of surprisingly good players as the only way to really get that low is to play (and lose) a decent number of matches.

when I first started playing, I just dropped right into quickplay with mario, lost 5-6 matches, and ended up at ~50,000 gsp. Now everyone I play vs, mostly those in similar GSP ranges, is very noticeably better than who I go up against with my 2.5 mil characters, sort of goofy
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>>240686672
taste this shit should be outlawed
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>>240686410
Is that really the plot? I assumed the Lucas's game had some pretentious story due to how people hyped it up, seems I was sorta right with all that edgy bullshit.
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>>240681853
>brave
>home of the brave
holy SHIT
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>>240686894
ok and? what are you hoping to accomplish some weak attempt at shitposting mother fans?
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>>240686502
He's not a character I'm all tol familar, I play doc more often, but I feel you rely on fsmash as your sole kill option. Mario's up smash is really solid as a kill option, it's a much safer kill move. Beside that use his up tilt strings at early percents. They're not as ridiculous as smash 4 but unless you're against a floaty like kirby it's a great way to rack up damage at low percents. Up-air is also a way to juggle around mid percent too. Mario's nair is also pretty good for trying to break out of combos so try that if you need to get the opponent off of you quickly.
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>>240686912
your Bowser was solid! he's actually one of my characters too. The Ness games were very back and forth and he's my main.
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>>240686767
ganondorf rlly be after that boipussy huh
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>>240686746
it's almost the only smash game I play cause still no switch
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>>240686767
Mewtwo is only genderless because of game mechanics, otherwise he is depicted as male

>>240687017
Its not as edgy as it is frustratingly quirky, if you like Earthbound you may like it, idfk, Robot Dinosaurs

>>240687082
Shut up, nigger
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>>240686894
Okay. Only idiots will refuse to play it at this point. I love Mother 3 and it's one of my favorite games but even I don't want it localized, NoA will do a terrible job translating it. I just don't get why you feel so cool spoiling it for whatever reason.
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>>240686924
>in my experience, the ranks below 100,000 are full of surprisingly good players
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>>240687202
>hat in time SH*D poster
yeah well that explains it
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>>240687202
Is that so?
The game's never established any sort of gender identity for him and in the movies there's also a "female" Mewtwo later on.
I guess i could just put that entire category into asexual tho.
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>>240687339
Anon thats a gif from the game
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>>240687202
so you're just posting autism for attention then?
kay should really step up your game if that's the case
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>>240687202
>>240686894
Two posts later and I already know you're an obnoxious discord tranny faggot. I feel bad for anyone that has to interact with you
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I wanted to main Isabelle because she's cute, but it turns out she's really, really boring. What were they thinking? Why did they just make an unfun Villager?
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>>240686894
>Wasting money
"Wasting money" never entered my cranium. Like I missed sleep over a game with a shit theme, shit roster, tripping, and a shitty version of Adventure Mode when Melee is superior.

Poorfags like you shouldn't buy video games if you're that paranoid about money.
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>>240686767
I'll never forget that promotional screenshot of Palutena and Lucina.
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>>240686924
>"in my experience, the ranks below 100,000 are full of surprisingly good players"
>tfw got to sub 100k with my mains without even trying
wow am i really that good?? /s
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>>240687440
i guess shad can replicate it enough to a point where it confuses my retard brain
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>>240687102
Thanks a ton, I will try to remember all that.
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>>240687125
Yeah your Ness was good, I actually have a decent Lucas and was thinking about trying out Ness. I like a lot of characters in this game, picking one is hard.
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>>240687493
Why are there so many fucking isabelle freaks? I see more people obsessed with this fucking dog than any of the actual girls in this game
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I LIKE GREEN INKLING!
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>tfw too scared to edgeguard with Doc
I want to Dair them to hell, but if you miss you literally just die
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>>240687628
She's cute. She's a chibi dog and has a cute endearing personality. Stop projecting.
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>>240687398
Not that anon, but his original movie appearance has him speak a very masculine voice, and all legendaries in pokemon are genderless so you cant breed them, so you can sorta pick whatever canon you want
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>>240686894
>mother 4 will be in hibernation until everyone stops caring.
I mean the guy who made Mother is dead so we'll probably never see a Mother 4 anyways. Enjoy Undertale!
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>>240687523
Explain
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>>240687628
>he doesn't platonically love his adorable doggy secretary and faithful friend
what a homo
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>>240686767
>Yoshi
>Straight
Aren't he and Birdo a pair?
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>ice climbers vs samus
>she uses forward air but it runs out of hits by the time she gets to me
>forward smash when she lands directly in front of me
>it fucking MISSES
Does this shit have a DEADZONE?
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*buries you*
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>>240686767
olimar literally has a wife and children
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>>240687728
>you cant breed them
ditto, uh, finds a way
what on god's green earth was the point of this stupid shit?
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>>240687836
I feel just as bad because Samus cant fucking hit Ice Climbers for shit, all of her aerials are so fucking laggy on startup
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>>240687875
Nice paint brush you have there. It'll be a shame if a real weapon knocks it out your hands.
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>>240687523
Good point, i'll move them to bi.

>>240687728
I just moved that entire category into Asexual now, causes the least confusion. lol

>>240687971
I wasn't aware of that.
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>>240687759
I mean besides it being a nonsensical jump in logic itoi's still kicking
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Practice your parry timings.
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>>240688145
snake and cloud are straight as an arrow. stop projecting your gay fantasies on characters with canon female romantic interests.
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>>240677628
if nintedo doesnt give us a malos echo for shulk im gonna fire soccerguy personally
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>>240688247
>try to practice risky things
>lose
>GSP tanks
no
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>>240687759
He isn't dead, don't say that. Nintendo should just hire Toby to direct another Mother game though.
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>>240688145
>Fox
>Straight
>implying he isnt fucking krystal and getting fucked by wolf
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>>240688145
>??? sexual
>sakurai basically ships IC
>megaman has a cute loli sidekick
I'm not gonna touch the rest of this godawful faggotry but that's just wrong
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>>240688267
But which snake, exactly?
Because Ultimates is a mixture of several snakes, except for Venom because he sucks dick
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>>240688267
Yeah but it's funnier that way, so it's canon.

>>240688372
>>240688394
I'll fix those!
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>>240687812
Nothing too big, this was one of Sakurai's promotional pics of smash 4
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>>240686767
>>240688145
>Ike being a Homo
Fuck off Sorenfag, Ike has never said anything romantically to him and obsesses over his sword skills overall.

Also Pokemon Trainers are way older than Inklings.
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>>240688145
isabelle is bi, she's implied to have a crush on you even if you're female
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>>240688346
>the /ssbg/ mentality
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>>240687875
*laughs in f-smash*
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>>240688425
Big Boss likes Eva and loves his mama.
Solid likes Meryl and the only gay shit he's done is the non-canon snowmobile ride with Otacon.
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>>240688476
looks more like a fashion shoot than a lesbian picnic but whatever, porn fuel is always welcome, especially with goofy goddess of shota and top tier dfc
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>>240688492
the pokemon trainers are 11, inklings are a minimum of 14
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>>240688247
>Practice a tryhard gimmick in a party game
No thanks, my main has counter anyways.
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>>240688476
same face
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>>240688492
Ike is a homo, for Soren, and for the King of Lions. Learn your shit.

Also Pokemon Trainer is 10 and Inkling is 14
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>jeff
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>>240688247
>practice a dumb gimmick instead of things that are relevant to winning the game
nah
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>>240688640
>woomies are post pubescent
should not expand dong but it sure as hell does
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>>240688902
i mean it's above the age of consent in japan
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>>240686767
>implying fox, falcons, any link, incineroar, lucario, pit, sheik, isabelle and every fire emblem character is straight
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>>240688640
Pokemon Trainers are 12

>>240688754
Once again 12.

Then why did Ike abandon Soren, his sister, and all his friends he grew up with at the end of the Tellius Saga?
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Pure Kino
https://youtu.be/Nur18hoGH3E?t=58
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>>240689116
red is 10, leaf is 11
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>>240685597
In most smash games bad players have it tough against Samus since they aren't good at using attacks to clash with her projectiles and when they do get by them they tend to run right into her quick tilts instead of baiting them out. Probably the same in this one.
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Why is ssbg afraid of learning new things? Are parries that daunting to you? lmaoing at your lives, you'll never make it
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>>240688754
Ike's homo for Ranulf, not the lion king. Learn your crack ships.
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>>240689415
I'm practicing them but still not very good
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>>240689415
Imagine being this hurt by my opinion you guys have to drag on the discussion until someone agrees with you two.
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i have played so. many. fighting games. never in my life have I encountered more tea baggers and BMing fucks than in this game. what the fuck is the deal with the general faggotry in this games player base?
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>>>/pol/199500823
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>>240688247
Parrying is just letting go of shield at the end of a move like you should be anyway. That comes naturally without practice.
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>>240689992
>Get rid of taunting in a ranked mode because muh hurt feelings
>Something more annoying takes it's place
This is what happens when you try to censor players, it always goes wrong. Always.
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>>240689992
Literal kids play this game. Don't forget this. Nintendo games are for babies.
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>>240689992
because there's a solid window of opportunity that regularly arises in the form of KOs and respawning, and they disabled normal taunts like a big gays
it's like moving to florida and going "shit guys why are there so many hurricanes it wasn't like this in toronto"
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Who are better, /v/kend players or /ssbg/?
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>>240689992
Yeah but Smash isn't a fighting game
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>>240689992
valid mind games, if it affects u ur bad
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>>240690285
No, literal kids player Fortnite and Minecraft. Compulsive manchildren who can't let their childhood go circlejerk around Smash.
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>>240689985
I'm just trying to help you. If you don't care about improvement that's fine but you'll get left behind if you don't learn this stuff.
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>>240688247
why should I? meme mechanic for boomers who love evo 37 but never played third strike a day in their life
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>tfw we could have had subspace emissary 2 with overly dramatic iconic cutscenes and awesome crossover interactions
>instead we got an endless series of stupid repetitive challenges with no story because people moaned too much about muh brool be bad

someone else post a reaction image
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>>240690516
>buyers, ergo adults because kids don't have money
>had to respond to an email after linking to a nintendo account, something kids wouldn't bother with
>response rate of 11%
>results are skewed
IMAGINE MY SHOCK
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>>240690704
t. sucks at parrying
I'll be taking those free punishes, thank you very much.
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today i will remind them
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>>240690516
You're going to get the same result for every other console. Kids don't give a shit about surveys.
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>>240690704
>Why should I master a mechanic that gives me frame advantage
Jesus Christ /ssbg/
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>>240690725
> because people moaned too much about muh brool be bad
they knew that people liked subspace and hated the balance, floatiness, and tripping
it was sakurai's autism over cutscenes, nothing more nothing less
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I'm finally doing world of light and holy fuck is this tedious and boring, did you guys really 100% all tbree routes? I've done like 20 fights now and already feel like I've exoerienced just about everything. Thank fuck I have the akuma spirit, let's me finish every battle in a minute or less.
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>>240686410
you're a cunt
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Is there a fighter that plays or feels similar to Ivysaur?
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>>240690858
It doesn't give you real advantage, you end up with the same punish possibilities as shielding
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Does getting elite by just rematching shitters count?
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>>240687819
>he only loves isabelle platonically
loser
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>>240691174
no
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>>240691060
I like dicking around with Smash's AI so I found it pretty fun. Gets repetitive after a while.
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>>240689992
Best way to go about it is to teabag back immediately. Even if you lose, taking it lightly like that won't tilt you as hard. Of course if you win, teabag as hard as you want. They'll leave after that match.
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>>240691174
toon link maybe?
aerials are similar and projectile game is better than Ivy
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>shield most of a multihit move
>drop shield right before the last hit
>every single time
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>>240691359
does AI still taunt sometimes?
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>>240690975
is that it? i know some other guy was in charge of all the cutscenes, that guy is a legend
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>>240691423
you should try releasing shield after they're done hitting you
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>>240691359
>>240691060
>it's a "hostile assist trophies will appear" battle
jesus fucking christ why are ATs so awfully balanced
they're assist trophies not hard carry god trophies
I get no one cares about item balance but that doesn't change the fact that I think it's the worst it's ever been in this game
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>>240691269
Elite doesn't count for anything period lad
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>>240689107
All of them except for Ike and Corrin are provably straight.
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I wish this game had a Meta Crystal stage
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>>240691549
took me hours to do 8 volt

had to get fucking sheriffs spirit so i could destroy the sheriff
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>>240691476
yep
basically samurai got asshurt that people posted the cutscenes on youtube so he cut singleplayer out of 4
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>>240691369
Are there a lot of differences between Too Link and Young Link?
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>>240691678
AT killer is an absolute must
the fucking akira fight was unbearable cancer since apparently akira has super armor on literally every move he makes and ryu was just dicking around waiting to wombo combo you (since unlike you ai apparently can cooperate with the ATs)
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>>240691678
I thought I was the only one who had trouble on that one. At some point I was like, "fuck it" switched to Kirby and spammed Stone.
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>>240691746
yeah young link is a bigger cunt and better
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>>240691678
>had to get fucking sheriffs spirit so i could destroy the sheriff
trust nobody not even yourself
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>>240691746
young link is extra hyper faggy
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>>240691848
that was straight up my plan A as soon as I saw how sheriff worked
>assist killer
>deep breathing
>aerial those two faggots to death
>RAWK
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>>240691746
Toon Link is more floaty and has less sword range, but is more powerful and has better bombs.
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>>240691746
Tink is floatier which lets him hit shields while fading back, so he's safer to pressure with
His aerials are also less laggy and better at covering yourself defensively
Yink on the other hand is faster and has a bit more combo potential and a stronger recovery
Also his Nair is definitely better than Tink's
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>>240691848
That's why I stayed Kirby the whole WoL playthrough.
What's the point of switching characters when Kirby can just break the game with floating and stone spam?
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>>240691746
Playing one makes you a try-hard degenerate, the other makes you a hipster degenerate
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How do I beat Wii Fit? She reminds me of my mum too much to take her seriously online
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How do I get good at ROB?
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>of all the characters I struggle against, it's fucking Dedede
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>>240692253
Which is why I don't get why people bitch about Marth clones when Link clones are zoning degenerates
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>>240692438
It's okay anon, he is hard for me too. All of his strength really fuck over my main and it can feel really brutal when I play one. Who do you play?
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>>240692358
side b
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I gotta say I wish Young Link's look was based on his MM appearance intead of OoT
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>>240692232
i really wish wol didn’t allow you to pick your own characters, it’s so easy to cheese every single challenge once you’ve unlocked a certain character and it becomes really boring as a result

the mode is most fun right at the beginning where all you have is kirby and a couple others, it feels like much more of a challenge
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kinda offtopic but does anyone here play on a 1440p monitor? how is the scaling?
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>see lucas, ness, snake or cloud coming up
>turn on lag switch
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>>240691174
Simon/Richter
>>
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>>240692337
fuck your mother, then tap into that primal desire and imagine you're trying to wear wii fit down in order to fuck her once she's ko'd
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>>240692870
It would've been cool if they let you be the character that the Spirit scenario entails. Sakurai fucked up big time for not making it like Melee's event mode.
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>>240692876
i play on a dell s2716dg. it looks fine for me
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>>240692915
>so bad you have to turn on a lag switch to win against characters you dont like
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I want to play Greninja but I don't think there's a local scene here and I'm guessing he sucks dick to play online even with a wired connection. Am I right?
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>>240693118
could you compare it to what it looks like when the switch is set to output in 720p please?
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How does anyone struggle with shorthopping, i don't get it.
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>>240692870
just to make it a little more interesting, I used a character as soon as i freed them until I got the next one
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>>240690116
>posting your fake leak on /pol/ so that it "looks more convincing"
sure
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>>240693079
T-thanks anon
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>Heavy characters
>one move does a fuck load of damage
>literally no thought required
why do they complain so much when they main characters that are unga bunga retard tier
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>>240693510
why would you do that
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if you didnt beat the final boss with kirby on your 3 man team what are you even doing
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>>240693852
if you didn't beat the final boss with just kirby on hard and spiritless what are you even doing
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>>240693851
because 720p scales to 1440p better
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>>240693805
Heavy characters mindset is DUDE THE RANGE THE SPEED I CAN'T DO ANYTHING

Meanwhile they see no issue with bullshit moves like Bowser's bodyslam killing at 60%
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>>240693805
Almost all heavies in smash have horribly slow attacks.
With online lag they're fine, but in serious matches most heavies are complete shit and need to work way harder to get hits in than other characters.
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>>240693805
>Using unga bunga as an argument
please kill yourself.
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>>240693972
World of Light is boring as shit, why would I purposely make it more tedious
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>>240693510
>>240694010
i made a quick photo on the dell.
left is 720p, right is 1080p. it looks like any other 720p/1080p content would, 1080p is noticeably sharper (check the black outlines of the circles). i don't know what you were expecting.
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>played so much undocked that undocked with joycon is the best way for me to play

surely it cant be just me
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>>240694318
you are little baby boy
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>>240694198
Honestly I never seen unga bunga used this much in a fighting game more than Smash. Every character in this game needs unga bunga intellect.
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>>240694350
thank you, just in case though - is this taken with the picture stretched to cover the whole monitor area?
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>>240694376
I've literally never played docked because I don't have a TV
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>>240694376
same
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>disable
>smash
god im just sof uCKING SKILLDE
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>>240690254
Other fighting games don't have half as much taunting either. It is genuinely quite rare to get taunted in most other fighting games, even during completely safe windows like stun before death.

I barely get any runbacks either, while in most other games it borders on an expectation if the connection is decent. Smash really does have a uniquely terrible playerbase.
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>>240694548
let's crowd fund and get this anon a monitor
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>>240693347
whats the point behind this post again
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Nintendo is so fucking worthless holy shit
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>>240693071
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>>240694590
gee i wonder who you just lost to
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>>240693589
I think this is the first game where everyone has the same jump squat frames so it can be a struggle to some people that are used to their character being different.
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There is nothing in this world more satisfying than constantly pelting a Ganon player with projectiles.
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Holy fuck Fox's jab comes out on frame 2, what the shit.
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>>240694590
>actually getting hit by disable
lmao
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>>240694764
Whoops, the ID is HNYPP
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>>240694528
yes
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Why are smash attacks so safe? Is it because of the online? So many times I try to grab someone after I shield or spot dodge their smash attack just for them to spot dodge the grab and punish me.
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>>240694837
Beating that person as Ganon
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>>240694875
guys dont tell him about little mac
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>>240694930
alright, thanks a lot for the pictures
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>>240694936
you're not supposed to shield them, they've always have a lot of shieldstun and knockback, making them hard to punish on a shield.
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>>240695069
Even when I spot dodge them I can't punish.
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>>240694961
Yeah but Fox is actually a usable character, unlike Mac.

>>240694936
Online latency makes everything more safe and shield grabs/grabs in general are worse than in Smash 4.
Try figuring out your other out of shield options, a lot of characters have good aerials or up-b's out of shield that are better at punishing online.
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>open up detailed view of arena rules
>get taken out of line
Thank you Sakurai
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get brapped on son
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So something different but are there any specific match ups so far you feel are too heavily in favour of one character so far?

Jigglypuff vs Ridley is a particularly horrible one I've found. If there is one thing I'm sure of is Puff is at least decent in this game. But Puff has virtually nothing which can reach Ridley who is happy to spam their FAir and Dtilt which can easily chip around the shield and catch dodges. Only time you win this is when the Ridley misjudges their dodge/land timings, there is absolutely no leeway.
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how the fuck are the belmonts not tier 1?
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>>240677993
Looks pretty free
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>>240684315
is there thonking in fox version?
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New player here. If someone is in the air while I'm on the ground, and they down air while I jump and up air, what determines which attack hits?
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I main Bowser
I don't think anyone at work caught on to me shitting myself, I got a lot of weird looks but hopefully they just assumed the smell was a fart. It wouldn't have been so bad if some spic wasn't hogging the bathroom while the brown slug sloshed around in my boxers. Thankfully I have the next 5 days off so I can put this debacle behind me.
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>tfw next in line
I'm going to get fucking destroyed.
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>>240695584
Depends on the strength of the character's dair and uair. Different attacks have different priority, it is different for each character.
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>>240695443
>tickle their balls off-stage
>dead
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>>240695365
Sonic vs Ryu/Ken

Shotos just have no way to even approach sonic. Its his to lose. A few tourney matches have shown this as well, and now any Ryu/Ken main are advised to pocket a secondary
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>>240695584
aerials don't have priority, if your aerial hitboxes overlap each other's hurtboxes you both get hit
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>clash with someone
>i can't move for 5 minutes while the other guy can instantly
wtf is with this game
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holy FUCK
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>Pierce plays joins
>silky smooth 5 fps
I would think by know the people who have shit internet would know.

Fix your internet Pierce.
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>>240695584
hitboxes and body part tangibility
game doesnt have hurtboxes, it uses model collision, and certain moves make certain body parts intangible for a set duration
for example dks upair makes his head intangible, meaning in situations it would normally trade it just outright wins because the head is ignored when calculating hitbox collision for certain frames of the move
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how to sdi?
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>>240695772
I want her to step on me if that's what you mean
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Gannondorf or Bowser
Who do I main /vg/?
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someone tell me the differences between fox and falco, I know about wolf but I've basically been ignoring them since brawl.
I know falcos laser is different and he throws his reflector but i nothing about how their normals and aerials stack up
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>>240696238
ganon is for scrubs. are you one?
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>>240696238
Bowser is a much better character, but Ganondorf is more fun.
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ok i am done. FUCK THAT.

GGs guys. I don't even play Kirby.
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y'all ever notice sword clashes make a different sound than other hit box clashes
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Sorry about that horrendous lag, Serpent.
>>240695983
It's been fine the whole day, I don't know why it's fucking acting up right now.
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>>240695772
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bowser's fire breath is extremely fucking annoying
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//Daily Armpit Update//
Status: Stinky
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>>240696671
jump lol
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>>240695772
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>>240696671
git gud
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>>240696816
Lucina is ugly.
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>>240696981
don't say
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>>240696816
Only a massive weeb who lost in touch with reality would think a Dad would get mad at a friend for looking at someone's armpits
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>playing Link
>Isabelle pockets my down-b
>can't create another one

give me back my bomb you stupid dog
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Here whole 4 stars spirits and more in next
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How good is mewtwo in ultimate?
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>>240697152
>give me back my best setup tool
No!
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>>240697224
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>>240697151
>not letting your best friend ogle your future daughter's body

Chrom truly is the worst bro
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>>240697335
secretly a swordie
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>>240697440
There the rest
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I figured out why my connection was so terrible. My parents are streaming Netflix on the 4K smart TV, and it's hogging all the bandwidth.
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Which Smash character is most fun to watch?
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>get into elite smash
>Waiting for a match over 5 minutes
>First fight is a fucking Bowser jr with jtems and smash ball on
>He's not even fucking good at all but masterballs and invincible stars always spawn on his fucking face
>He plays in stage hazard levels so it's a dick and a half
>His final smash is an option piece of shit that covers the entire stage
>Get knocked out of elite even though I almost 3 stocked him but he literally got masterballs j to assist trophy j to pokeball into super flag thing that gives a stock into invincible star mid combo
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If I'm not a furry, is there a reason to play Isabelle over Villager? She feels kinda garbage. Villager feels way more well-rounded and formidable in the neutral.
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>>240697335
Those tailwhips and nairs eat my fucking lunch
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>>240697860
Ridley and street fighters
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That fight against me about busted my hemorrhoids
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>>240697860
I really enjoy matches with Chrom.
He's fast, aggressive and either kills the opponent really quickly or dies quickly himself.
Matches with him never drag on.
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>>240697919
Her side-b
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>>240698148

mew
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>>240698243
The slow, telegraphed, easily-avoidable hitgrab?
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I just beat dk&lady and tabuu one after the other and the boner still hasn't subsided
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>>240698517
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>take one of Smash Bros' classic characters (Marth)
>genderswap him to attract all the waifufag knuckledraggers
>remove the unique, skill-based mechanic that made him challenging but rewarding to master (tipping)
>end up with a brainless, boring, overpowered autopilot character with a retard-tier skill floor

fuck this scrub bait character and any subhuman that likes, plays, or supports her
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how the fuck do I get off the ledge without getting hit
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was dedede always this slow holy fuck
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imagine smash but precise inputs
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>>240698991
press shield and you roll up
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>>240698962
Imagine being bothered by easy wins.
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Is there any way to buy a new wavebird receiver? Found my old controller but not the plug in for it.
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>>240699268
it's cancerous game design
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>>240699215
So Melee?
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why are there music tracks locked behind World of Light

I don't wanna play this terrible mode anymore
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>>240699420
yeah but fun too
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>>240699505
pm
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>>240699505
so melee
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>>240699398
Sounds like an IGN review, take the win and move on.
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>get ssbu
>havent played like 6 years ago
>beat wol just spamming rolls and smashes
>get all the figthers
>deicde to play a simple smash with a random CPU LVL9
>lost 3-0 against a bowser
>mfw
am i on time to git gud again or im lost?
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>>240698962
>Instead of taking advantage of a character that I think is too strong, I am going to go on /ssbg/ and complain!

epic
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>>240699550
yea melee is fun with 5 characters. melee is hot garbage that tards pretend is competitive

also, anyone else got a room up? i just got thrown to the back of the line for changing characters ffs fuck this
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>>240698962
Literally everything you said is 100% true.
I still think she's hot though.
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>>240699741
game is more fun when you get good
do it
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>>240699893
you don't need more than 5 characters, melee thrived because there aren't that many autistic matchups to learn and the barrier to entry is much lower, which then flourished in the advanced tech department.
With 74 characters and having to learn each and every single matchup, you will see a lot of melee brainlets quickly dropping the game.
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>>240699893
Literally any single one of those 5 characters is more fun than the entirety of the ultimate roster by far. Keep whining.
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>>240699924
is it more fun with the pro controller or the GC controller?
the joycons are too fucking sensitive
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>>240700018
>my opinion is fact
but behold, ultimate is way better than melee. get fucked fag trump says my opinion is law now. if you say otherwise youre going to mexico
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>>240698962
I don't care that Lucina is ezmode Marth. I just wish they gave her Aether like Chrom has.
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Its amazing how stale the online has become so quick
>PK fire spamming ness into grab into >90 for backthrow kill
>Laggy Ganons
>Projectile spamming Young Links and Wolfs
>Clouds
Literally the only matches I have now both inside and outside elite and watching streams it doesn't seem uncommon. I'd kill for an anime swordsman right now
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>>240700136
i use gc controller but pro controller is also perfectly fine
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>>240699367
Help
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>>240687759
Haha wouldnt it be funny if Itoi died and Nintendo still didnt release Mother 3 in the west hahah spitting on his name
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>>240700175
I wish they gave her her mask as an alt instead of a taunt
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>>240700168
get a hold of yourself holy shit what was that comment
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>>240700256
I fought an incredibly good Roy with 0 lag and it was the most fun Ive had in Smash, the hate against anime swordsmen is overexaggerated
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>>240700471
People are probably scared to venture online without a projectile spam or reflector due to absolute stale shitters non stop
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Online is just lag input projectile spam, playing a character with no range is really cancer or luck.
>Lag ranged characters I just wipe it
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>>240700260
Great
Time to get back on shape
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>>240700168
Yeah I guess you are right, mentally handicapped people might find ultimate more fun since you need zero brainpower to play it and is probably accessible for literal toddlers. I should have considered them as well. For anyone else who actually likes having to think and go through a deep but rewarding learning curve, Melee it is.
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>>240700608
but anime swordsmen have both projectiles and counter/reflects
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>>240700716
Bait, but Id like to say anyway that Melee is really fucking boring nowadays, especially with the introduction of Jiggly into top tier status
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>>240699367
You can look for 2nd hand ones on Ebay and maybe Amazon.
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>>240699759
>only playing cause they’re strong
Epik
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>>240700168
What the fuck.
>>240700716
What. The. Fuck.
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>>240684932
>>240678391
Sorry, fellas, but this is the REAL Samus.
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>>240700940
>he never experienced what it's like to get out of pools in a tournament
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>>240700940
https://youtu.be/sGh4ZU4H5Hk
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>>240701114
>actually going out and interacting with people
Normies OUT REEEEEE.
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>PK FREEEEEEEZE
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>>240690116
>Missing the obviously hinted Uther
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>>240701105
I dont get what people see in Samus to portray her this way. She is a goddamn hardened mercenary, and she doesnt show emotions unless its something deeply troubling or moving.
Is it the fucking ZSS taunts
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>>240697919
Her side B is pretty fun and has some really interesting functionality. Her down B I think is much better for attacking and she still has access to pocket.
My biggest gripe is how bad her jab is but I like her design and play style more than villager
That said she's still only a fun main, and I don't expect to do well with her
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So why exactly are furries attracted to Lucario? He's an immense manlet, not even 4 feet tall and 119 pounds. That's like a 9 year old.
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>>240701382
ZSS in general and Other M, I think.
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Why are people so obsessed with early tier lists?

I mean, some things are obvious and won't change. Peach is obviously incredible. But people are already coming around on day one "low tiers" or being more realistic about day one "top tiers". Let the meta establish.
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>>240701382
That's not sexy slutty Samus. That's chilling out with a brewski after a hard day of melting space pirates Samus.

Know the difference. It could save your life.
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>>240701245
Aside from the PK freeze buff his other moves feel worse.
I felt like he had great sweet spots and spikes that seem less effective now
I feel like his grabs are harder to land and combo from as well
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>>240701554
Making and evaluating lists comes just after food and water but before reproduction on the human needs tier list.
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>>240701454
>Other M
Leave it to Team Ninja to take established characters and fucking ruin them by either sexualization if female or stupid character writing if male. Or even worse, just making OC like "Linkle" when Nintendo says they cant fuck with Link
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grab the FUCKING ledge you godamn NIGGER
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>>240699993
With 74 characters, the game should've had a 3on3 stock mode like King of Fighters. Where every stock is a diffrent character. But only one of each echoe pair is allowed in a team. With 8 player matches this would be more than possible for the engine to handle. This would put a lot more variety in matches I think.

Also Duck Hunt is the hypest character in the game brainlets need not apply.
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>>240701210
holy epic
I can tell by how you spout old memes you are a cool 4channer
co-opting boarding culture for the win!
maybe go back to /r9k/ if you love their humor so much
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This really is the most normie general out there. Yikes.
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>>240701874
It does, it's called Squad Strike but you can't play it online.
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>>240701874
there is a mode like this under smash mode. i dont have my switch here to check what its called and i think its only 1v1 tho
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>2.8m GSP cloud
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>>240701649
Not Anon, but PK Freeze is literally all Lucas needs to kill confirm
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>>240701382
she always had some emotion even in game, let alone in secondary materials, she's not some shell shocked robot
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>>240699741
I've heard the lvl9 AI is pretty crazy
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>>240702080
yikes
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I love Lucas' up-smash. It feels like I'm psychically nutting all over my opponent.
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>>240699741
lvl 9 cpus are cancer
they're retards who'll eat the most obvious attacks, SD for no reason, and pull pants on head retarded moves, but they input read and have perfect frame data so they get away with it
set it to like 7/8
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>>240702159
>He thinks GSP matters
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>>240702080
>r9k humor
Have you been there in the past couple years?
Poopoo peepee basically ruined the place and was ineffectual in the long run anyway, now its simply a shell of its former self where losers go to whine when /b/ doesnt give a shit about their plight
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>>240702162
*grabs you at 60*
*throws you off stage*
*PK FREEZE*
*die*
Heh, nothing personal kid.
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>>240701796
The Nips are still mad that Metriod Prime was so popular and was by western devs. WE SAMUS AND DONKEY KONG NOW. Nips go back to making New Super Mario bros cashgrab. This is why they are trying to forcibly Japanesify Samus into shitty waifu bait with ZSS while crying... Ridley is... t-to big!! He-hes not popular!!

KRool and Ridley were objectively the most based inclusions and they had to grind to get here, because a lot of the old Nintendo execs have a huge bais against western developed nintendo franchises. Donkey Kongs entire identity is western. Still kinda wish DK had a barrel toss move but whatever.
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>>240701796

Team Ninja didn't write the story for Other M. All of that bullshit was Sakamotos doing.
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Should I sign up for the tournament?? I need emotional support guys.
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>>240702363
t. gsplet
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What are the tournament-legal stages with the tightest blast zones?

WarioWare, Brinstar, what else?
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>>240702519
Not an argument. Also, I'm 2.9 million GSP even though I didn't play Q*ick Play in weeks
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My connection seems pretty bad at times, but I want to test if I at least can have stable matches against other people in East Coast NA. I'm ok with limiting the pool of players I can practice with if it means that at least I can play productively

Someone from EC please help me test it. If it's irredeemable shit even from someone that close then I'll just let this be my only month that I'll pay for online

Room ID: LXYMM
Pass: 7243
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>>240702543
Fuck off DK player.
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>>240702592
get an adapter dude its like $8. makes the shittest conenctions work. ill join in a bit
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>>240702634
What a baseless accusation.

Incineroar
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>>240701796
there is nothing wrong with linkle, kinda-chuuni who coincidentally fits the description of the reincarnating hero is cute
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>>240702424
you know the western sjws want to turn samus into a transgender right
>>240702589
Post your GSP with timestamp
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>>240702673
I can't connect to Ethernet because I rent a room in a house and the modem/router/ethernet connections are all down a floor and across the house. She won't let me use ethernet over power either
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>>240702543
Yoshi's Story and, to a lesser degree, Yoshi's Island and Pokemon Stadium 2 have smaller blast zones then most others. I've noticed that in general a lot of stages have really high ceilings this time around, characters that kill off the top a lot like meta knight will struggle more to land kills now.
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who is the worst character and why is it Corrin
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>>240702836
Worst by what metric
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>Stuck forever 100k below elite with my main due to having 100+ matches and @ 55~% WR with him.
At least I'm learning how to deal with the anxiety of playing against good players.
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>>240702836
Because the people who chose what to keep in Fate's script are as retarded as she is.

The writer wrote over 1000 pages worth of lore for it and much of it was scrapped. Then the localization was handled by randoms picked from Deviant Art, which is why the diction in the dialogue reads like a high school fan fiction.
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>>240702836
because you're a faggot
corrin's great
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somebody stop this game & watch menace
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>>240702769
Thats the biggest goddamn meme in the world, even if she was transgender, she's a fucking bird lady, how are you supposed to relate to that
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>>240702769
Here. GSP still doesn't matter, if you honestly think that you have no clue about this system.
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>>240702978
What's pissing me off is I can get 2.6 or 2.7m easy then I lose 400-500k at that point, only get around 100-200k per win. The cycle continues.
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>>240703038
I always smash his bussy but I’m not home right now.
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>"tourney legal stages"
>brinstar and kongo jungle
What tbe fuck dqm?
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>>240703063
How the fuck did an aussie get the ability to post shit? I thought they were outlawed decades ago
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>>240703243
Hazardless Brinstar is a great state.
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>>240703038
yea i left because of that
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>>240703276
I'm German
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How do online matches work in smash ultimate? Is it true that it has some short of matchmaking now?
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Who's hosting a /vg/ arena? I'm tired of shit GSP fights against ike all night.
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>>240703387
Yes. It's garbage though.
And so is the online mode in general.
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>>240703496
my hed hurts and it's 4am over here, my brain isn't working properly anymore
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>>240703468
Could you elaborate more?
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>>240703063
>sub-elite
>G-GSP DOESN'T MATTER I SWEAR
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>P1 Ready!
>P2 Ready!
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>
>
>
>...
>P3 Ready!

NO GOD PLEASE NO
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>>240703387
I believe GSP always existed online, it was just invisible. I can’t find the Nintendo Direct where they explained Smash 4’s online mode so if anyone remembers when that was please let me know.
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>>240703720
GSP had nothing to do with matchmaking prior to ultimate
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>>240703606
I don't even play QP you dunce. And GSP doesn't matter, many people don't even play QP and there are many ways to cheese GSP with illegal rulesets. If you honestly think GSP shows how skilled you are, something in your head probably isn't working. Cmon, you can't be that stupid.
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>>240703387
>>240703567
Pay him no mind, he's just a low GSP shitter. The online is fine as long as you're good enough to not get stuck in casual shitter hell. You're matched based on GSP.
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Hey Njils, how would you say that connection is? Is it acceptable?
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>>240703606
When will they learn?
Good show.
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>>240703567
You get matched against people with similar GSP. The problem with GSP is that it's super easy to get by cheesing and picking the dumbest fucking rules you can possibly come up with to make it as easy as possible for your character. And the matchmaking only tries to find matches with your preferred rules, but it can still fail and match you in free for alls w/ items or team battles, which STILL affect your GSP. So basically GSP is a broken mess and it makes the matchmaking ineffective. And randomly getting matched against people with completely different fucked up rules in a ranked match is fucking stupid.
The online in general is kinda dumb, you can get terrible connections even with people who live close and have adapters because the netcode blows dick. Even in the best cases the difference in input delay is still noticeable.
In general
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>>240703816
Elite players don't lose to shitters who can only win with illegal rules. You would know this if you were actually there. Although maybe not since the EU smash scene is utter trash.
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>>240702769
Transgender people are literally mentally Ill and makeup .001% of humans. Most transgender people are spoiled kids with too much internet time. Fuck DJWs they don't even fucking play video games... REEEEEEEEE
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6 hours of QP and I went from 2.7m to 2.3m
Only about 25 of the matches had hazards on, or items on, or stamina
but so many of them were laggy spam fights of projectiles or just running around and it got so damn old

If only I could get a full refund on this game and my gc controller, my buddies who got it don't even log in anymore
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>>240703918
It stuttered here and there but it was fine by me.
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>>240702592
Can the anons in this lobby give me feedback on the connection?
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>>240704283
then play arenas dipstick
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>>240703915
I don't know how you can call it fine when the horrendous netcode guarantees that every match will be at the very least moderately laggy
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>>240704171
>Elite players don't lose to shitters who can only win with illegal rules
Even if it were true, it doesn't change the fact that GSP doesn't matter if you can use illegal rulesets. Not only that but you can also do shit like lagswitching and as I already said some people don't even play QP. There are people with way lower GSP than you who would body you like a child. ZeRo fucking destroys people in his GSP range, you know why? Because GSP isn't an accurate representation of your skill. Use your brain
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>>240704156
Bull fucking shit. You only run into shitter rules if you're in low-GSP hell, because that's where all the casual shitters are. If you're at any sort of reasonable GSP you'll only get meme rules 2% of the time at worst. In my 600 matches I've encountered like 10 of them with illegal rules. And I haven't been forced into anything that isn't a 1v1 in a fucking month.
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How do I git gud at Smash?

I'm hanging out with friends tomorrow and we're all going to be playing Smash and I'm tired of always getting last
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I believe that if you think you are 'good' at smash, yet constantly have a fucking cry about online FFA matches, time battles, item battles and other """""illegal rulesets""""", then you actually aren't very good. Yet faggots will defend to the death that 1vs1, no items, smashville is the only measure of skill that matters.

I also believe that if you are good at FPS in a game like battlefield, you will be good in the vehicles, good in infantry-only maps, good at playing all classes, good in small, medium and large maps and leading a squad. Meanwhile I dont see a single fucking person anywhere on this world declaring that the only measure of skill in FPS games is 1vs1, pistols only, wild west shootout.

What's the difference? Hint: There is fucking none. The best smash players in the world win no matter what the game mode is. FFA, Items, final smash meter. It doesnt matter, they are the best and they always win. If you can't win different game modes, it means you need to get better.

Stop fucking crying because Nintendo forces you out of your comfort zone and expects you to expand your skill set. If you were playing literally any other competitive game, MobA, FPS, Sports, whatever you would realise that being good at one tiny aspect of the game gets your shit wiped out.
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>>240703791
I wish I could confirm that by finding the original example of GSP
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>240704569
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Ok arena up

ID - KMP4R
PASS - 7243
Region - NA
Slots - 6 (I'll be speccing so 5)
Stages - Mostly comp
Bottom one leaves
Mode - 1v1 3 stocks
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Volsung, yes that is quite laggy of a fight. Getting an adapter would be a good idea.
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>>240704494
Pick a Belmont, Olimar or Young Link
Constantly run away and plink with projectiles from a distance and then run out the clock once you have a stock advantage
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240704569
do you think you're gonna get a single person falling for stale pasta, why even post it?
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>>240704426
How the fuck does it not change that fact? Nobody in their right mind loses to shitters that choose illegal rules. This means that these shitters aren't high GSP. I've seen lagswitchers before, they get forcefully disconnected after a bit. ZeRo destroys people at his GSP range because he's at the highest possible GSP range. The game isn't going to fucking make up a new number that doesn't exist just for him.
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>>240704642
>>240704860
>>240704923
oops these were all meant for >>240704569, sorry im still new to 4chan and figuring it out haha
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>>240704738
I would if I could access the Ethernet where I live.
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>>240704494
Do not try and git gud in Smash, that's impossible.
Instead, only try to realize the truth.
There is no Smash.
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What happened to Ice Climbers in this game? I don't remember them feeling so shitty
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>>240704401
The netcode is fine, you just have shit internet and are desperate to blame something else for it. I haven't had a single laggy match in the past week.
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>>240704721
Alright is the general dead or did I miss an active arena
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why did nintendo make a character too small to be hit by shorthop aerials
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>>240705035
no really, acting this transparently accomplishes nothing, the only reactions are telling you no one's buying it, does being immediately dismissed amuse you this much?
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>>240705074
Sakurai made them horribly shit just in case they had some broken tech that went under the radar like in every other game they were in. They didn't this time, so now they're just shit.
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>>240704976
>Nobody in their right mind loses to shitters that choose illegal rules.
You fucking idiot playing with illegal rulesets makes the game invalid. The GSP you just earned or lost shouldn't fucking exist. Quick Play is broken and the fact that you can use illegal rulesets isn't even the only reason for that.
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>>240705245
>does being immediately dismissed amuse you this much?
does the pope diddle little boys?
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>>240703606
GSP doesn't matter
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>>240705124
Literally every single top player, all of which are better than both you and me, have had the same issues since launch, and still constantly have the same complaints to this day. Either your reactions are slow as shit and you can't even notice the difference in input delay or you are just making shit up.
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I'm a hardcore Smash Bros fan, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Hyrule Castle where I would often train with Zelda in the training grounds and help Link with the Bow training, but one day as I was talking to Link, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. He immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave him a confused look and he continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" He then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, dullard!"

This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. He then said, "I talked with Princess Zelda and she agreed that you would be PERFECT as a Hyrulean soldier, you just have to do...one thing". He then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" He then said "Zelda said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." He giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.

I then agreed and he gave me a high five, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.
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>>240705486
>You fucking idiot playing with illegal rulesets makes the game invalid. The GSP you just earned or lost shouldn't fucking exist.
Oh no, I have 100 illegitimate GSP on top of the mountain of it that I already had. I'm a fraud.
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how do you counter simon/richter?
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>>240705580
>only 7
lmfao this boy thinks he matters
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JokerDIES!!!
ID: HNYPP
Password: 11037
East Cost, New York

1v1 3 stock 7 minutes, competitive random stageset

Still alive
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>>240705692
Not an argument, fuck off
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>>240705716
>7
Good math game, boy.
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>parry the bowser down special causing them to fall off the edge
ROCK FUCKING HARD BABY
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>>240705716
>can't even count
>trying to downplay other people's opinions
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>>240705824
>doesn't have an argument so he just dismisses the opposing argument
Low GSP shitters, everyone. The funniest part is how they claim you can just cheese GSP, but still can't even get elite. Biggest case of sour grapes I've ever seen.
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>>240705841
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>>240705704
Soft and hard reads to punish them when they go on autopilot. It's still tough but I managed to screw one over as Roy, and that's an accomplishment enough for me.
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>>240705841
>he fell for the parry meme
you're lucky you didn't die, that's the most risky option in the game
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>>240705580
This picture is irrelevant unless you also have a way to prove where you live. Obviously the Smash scene is braindead in any place other than North America and Japan, so getting elite elsewhere would be easy pickings. Especially with those shitter-stomping characters.
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>>240705124
You're obviously too retarded to tell the difference between offline and online, I have a fast, wired connection and I've never had an online match without noticable delay
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>>240701382
chill out bruh samus is allowed to have some me-time every once in a while, it's not all about bounty work
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>>240706153
Pure wolf furry power
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>>240706028
Look you fucking low IQ moron, not every good player plays Quick Play and not every high GSP player is a good player since you can cheese it with illegal rulesets.
>The funniest part is how they claim you can just cheese GSP, but still can't even get elite.
I literally don't fucking play Quick Play you absolutely retarded monkey. If you honestly think GSP matters in a fucking discussion it shows just how stupid you are. You remind me of the subhumans who say shit like "WELL UH MAKE IT BETTER YOURSELF" morons who come out of the woodwork when you criticise a shit game. Fucking hang yourself
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>>240706258
>he fell for the wired meme
I literally play in tabletop mode with no cable and never lag. Convince your mom to upgrade your internet plan, kiddo.
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can I get a quick rundown on lucas? is he really that bad?
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He must be replying to himself at this point.
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>>240705804
Fucking spoiler alert bro, I haven't finished The Dark Knight
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>>240703243
Kongo jungle is ok
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>>240706424
The only good thing about Lucas is PK Freeze, which is a predictable but very strong edgeguard tool.
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I'm having a character crisis and it's not fun. I wish magic 8 balls worked so the universe could tell me who to play.
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>>240706318
>there are a few minor flaws and exceptions so the whole thing doesn't count!!!
Look here, you braindead fucking amoeba. You literally cannot comment on this shit because YOU AREN'T ELITE. If you WERE elite, you would know that choosing random illegal rules results in you getting shit on. Thus nobody fucking uses them. Some random shitter trying to abuse illegal rules once per hundred matches does not invalidate the legitimacy of the entire system. Much like a shit-coated fly landing on your food does not contaminate the entire meal.
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>>240706935
maybe we can help anon, tell us how you like to play & who you've played in the past
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>>240706408
Stay in denial, retard
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>>240706170
I live in Illinois. Here's the other side of the letter with my information omitted. I still don't think GSP matters, at least not how many make it out to. People should take advantage of the matchmaking by rematching first to two wins, that's how you get better.
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>tfw I don't have matchup experience with 1/3 of the roster because everyone online plays the same fucking characters.
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Shit man I'm getting worse as the night goes on
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>>240706938
>You literally cannot comment on this shit because YOU AREN'T ELITE
IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER YOU FUCKING IDIOT. Someone who doesn't even play the game could point out how flawed the system is.You absolutely fucking retarded ape nothing, NOTHING you said changes the fact that GSP doesn't fucking matter. Playing Quick Play intead of Arena doesn't make you a better player, how fucking retarded can you be. How are you retarded enough to believe every single player plays QP only. Holy shit unironically kill yourself, your low IQ is poisoning the genepool
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Njils and Aerthas, thanks for the games! I seem to be able to get decent connection, better than with randoms, so I guess east coast is passable. Had several stable games with Njils.

I'll be sure to warn people though that my connection is limited and I'll leave if I ever muck up people's rooms

Also fighting with you guys is great, I only tried a few fights with randoms and I feel that I learn against you guys
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post characters you've literally never seen in the wild
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>>240706938
>Still ignoring >>240705580
You're embarassing yourself at this point.
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>>240707117
That's not really proof with how long you took. Regardless, even if you are elite in a place with a relevant scene, your opinion is just that. The people in elite are objectively better than the people below it, because you need to maintain a positive win rate to be in elite. It doesn't mean that elite lacks bad players, those will occasionally slip through the cracks by luck. But they always fall out almost immediately.
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>>240707117
I can't trust a man who rips opens letters like a savage.
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>>240707329
when fighting wolf, if they are really campy try to stay either inside of or outside of their side B slash range. conditioning people to keep jumping is a great way to get a free side B
thats my tip for the day
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>>240707369
The fuck are you talking about? I've been replying to him this entire time in between babysitting this sour grapes amoeba over here.
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ROFL why are sub 500k players so toxic compared to elites?
Playing an old failed alt and literally everyone t-bags and taunts end of match in the dumpster elo
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>>240678289
With a regular short-hop, you can bait out later aerial attacks. The shortcut just makes you throw out a short-hop aerial ASAP.
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>>240707235
stop responding to the sakurai apologist, everybody with a brain here knows you're right
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>>240707235
>low GSP shitter calling other people retarded
Imagine being so bad that you can't even get to the top 3%
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What do you guys think is the best looking omega/battlefield stage? I think Summit looks pretty nice.
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waifu tier list
dispute this
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>>240707410
>he people in elite are objectively better than the people below it
Wrong. Some people don't even play QP, some people even cheese their way into Elite by lag switching or using illegal rulesets and even the people who got into Elite by playing the normal way, implying they're better than everyone who isn't Elite is outright retarded. You don't have a single argument to prove your retarded claim. The sole fact that some people don't play QP completely disregards everything you said
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>>240707812
>bayo on same tier as rosa
disgusting
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>villager cpu
>frame perfect pockets
>literally NOTHING but gyroid rockets during neutral no matter how much you punish them for it until that fucking sound is ringing in your ears
god these faggots are painful in WoL
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why are combos so weird and hard in smash bros

I can play regular fighting games just fine but in smash I can't do a 3 hit combo
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>>240707064
I've mained Dedede for ten years and that's not going to change. The issue is choosing a secondary. I like Ken (I was a Ryu secondary in Sm4sh), Pokemon Trainer, and Inkling. The problem is Ken has so much depth he makes Ryu look like a character for babies, and Pokemon Trainer is 3-in-1. I feel like I can't have BOTH as secondaries, they each take up too much time to learn. I need to pick one. But even just picking one, I feel like not only would I need to drop the other, but I'd probably need to drop Inklings for a long time while I get the secondary I do choose up to a competitive standard as well. This is a shame because Inkling is the first rushdown character I've enjoyed over the entire lifespan of this series.

It's probably not something anyone can help with. I know who I like, it's just a shame that two of them are the sort of character who don't really facilitate splitting up your practice time with other characters.
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>>240707657
Not an argument
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>>240707919
>liking hairy girls
she only breaks mid tier with the short hair+glasses combo
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SO CLOSE VOLSUNG
SO FUCKING CLOSE
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>>240707410
I don't know how long it took really. Keep in mind that I try to rematch basically everyone if the connection is solid, though a lot of people in earlier GSP will not rematch.

When I say GSP doesn't matter, I don't mean that there can't be a difference in skill level. I say it doesn't matter because I see a lot of people who are fixated on getting into Elite Smash, instead of learning how to actually play the game. Not to mention the fact that you can cheese the system in a number of ways by picking rulesets that favor your character, or putting on silly settings like one stock, 3 minutes, with pitfalls only on FD or something. Additionally, there's players who don't really play QP. Personally I've been playing in lobbies a lot more instead recently. I kind of wish we just went back to a modified version of For Glory.
>>240707470
>man
I'm a woman.
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>>240707235
>IT LITERALLY DOESNT MATTER YOU FUCKING IDIOT
And where's your proof that it doesn't matter? You sure are good at shouting the same stupid shit over and over, but you've yet to provide any evidence that the majority of people in elite aren't good players. You just keep repeating endlessly that you can cheat the system, when I've stated multiple times that such isn't the case and never happens, and rather than backing up your claims with evidence you just keep screeching.
>Playing Quick Play intead of Arena doesn't make you a better player
Now you're just making shit up. I've never claimed that it's impossible to be good if you aren't in elite. But if you aren't in elite you have no right pretending you're good, because there's no proof without fighting you directly, which nobody is going to fucking do every time a dispute comes up.
>How are you retarded enough to believe every single player plays QP only
I think you need a psych evaluation, I've never said half of the shit you're rambling about.
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>>240708021
What if you’re just bad.
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>>240708070
>hairy girls
excuse me?
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>>240708146
anon
her clothes is her body hair
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who's the most boring character, gameplay-wise?
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>>240708203
Retard
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>>240708270
Belmonts easily
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>>240708270
Ike
tilts, jabs and airs and nothing else
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>>240707868
I'm obviously referring to people who play quick play regularly and can't get elite. If you actively play quick play and aren't elite, you are worse than the people in elite.
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Wheres the arena lads
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>>240708270
Rosalina
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>>240708270
ike
projectile zoners if you play online, although offline they are much better both to play as and to play against
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>>240708110
>And where's your proof that it doesn't matter?
GSP isn't an accurate representation of skill and besides that you don't need to be good in the game to understand a system that has nothing to do with the gameplay you mouthbreathing downie fucking kys
>I've never claimed that it's impossible to be good if you aren't in elite
You literally said elite players are objectively better than non elites
>But if you aren't in elite you have no right pretending you're good,
Wrong because GSP isn't an accurate representation of skill you fucking idiot, for reasons I already said a ton of times which you haven't even disproven yet.
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>someone says GSP doesn't matter
>"post yours then"
>they post it
>"lmao not even elite"
>someone else that IS elite posts theirs
>"w-well you must not be in a good region"
>they're in a good region
>"b-b-but"
Just stop. Telling people they can't have an opinion because of an online score is absolutely ridiculous. Especially with a system as flawed as GSP. Maybe I'd understand just a bit more if this game had a proper ranked mode but even then, you shouldn't hold them to points. The best players are usually going to locals offline anyway.
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any basics/beginner guides for improving? i played melee casually as a kid but im basically a beginner. where do i start?
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>>240708091
It may as well be your win. You bodied me as Marth with one of his worst matchups for most of the game
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>>240708376
Up your ass
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>>240707812
Peach down, maybe even 2 down.
Corrin could up one. Could.
Robin up one.
Bayo up one.
Samus down one. ZSS stays there.
Zelda down one. Don't put a Claimed tier if you're going to share your list.

8/10 definitely could have been worse.
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>start jabbing in the wrong direction
>opponent rolls into it
goddamn i'm good
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>>240708270
Isabelle.
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>>240708021
PKMN trainer definitely isn't a secondary-ish character imo, if you plan on picking them up you definitely need to ONLY pick them up. Leffen (regardless of what you think of him) has a correct view on the character, you have to learn every matchup 3x which is quite rough.

I would say focus your decision between Ken and Inkling. Inkling seems like it would be easier to pick up and do well with, and probably serves the function of a secondary a lot better. It's also nice when you find a character you find fun, it'll probably be nice learning a whole new character in this game.

This is all assuming you're considering taking these characters to tourneys of course, you're always free to play whatever for fun.
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>>240708270
Olimar, but that's merely subjective for me

>>240708356
>"I got my ass kicked by Ike."
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>>240708451
https://youtu.be/L30sLmV3Dps
start with this
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>>240707812
Peach down to C
Daisy up to A
Rosalina down to C
Trainer up to B
Inkling down to D
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>>240708504
Hard reads
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>>240708398
>has nothing to do with the gameplay
What the fuck does this even mean? Do I gain GSP by taking a shit IRL?
>You literally said elite players are objectively better than non elites
You literally misinterpreted me to make your argument look better.
>reasons I already said a ton of times which you haven't even disproven yet
The burden of proof is on you, since you're the one claiming GSP doesn't matter, shitter.
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>>240708464
Rude desu
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>>240706424
Lucas main here, don't listen to >>240706934 , if you're still here I'll actually explain him to you.
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>>240708323
How is he wrong tho
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>>240708573
>>I got my ass kicked by Ike
the opposite actually, I main Ike.
I always gravitate to the most boring, basic-bitch characters in fighting games (Jack in Tekken, Ryu in Street Fighter, etc)
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I got work in the morning. I'll get you next time Volsung.
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>>240708525
get jelly bois
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>>240708631
thanks, i appreciate it.
this channel seems exactly what i was looking for.
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>>240708656
Your GSP doesn't have to do anything with the gameplay, are you actually fucking retarded? You could be the highest GSP there is and still don't grasp how it works. You don't need to play the game at all to understand the simple as fuck way Quick Play works. Holy shit you manage to surprise me with every single post, with just how fucking stupid you are.
>The burden of proof is on you, since you're the one claiming GSP doesn't matter
Still waiting for you to disprove the fact that you can cheese GSP or just don't play QP at all. As I said, you can be a good player and don't play QP at all, you can theoretically be the best fucking player in the world and play arena/locals only. Do you have downsyndrome or something like that? Your stupidity actually hurts my fucking head. The ONLY scenario where GSP would remotely matter is one where arena/locals don't exist and you can't use illegal rulesets
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>>240708837
Ike is just the simplest flavor of the month currently.
There's at least a dozen simpler characters.
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Thanks again for the game Aerthas and Njils! I'm going to go eat.
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>>240708742
I'm sorry. Just make a lobby if you'd like to play. Ctrl+f when you get in the thread
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>>240708116
Maybe. I'm not great and I'll never win anything outside of locals, but I can at least make great players work for their win. I beat Abadango once in a friendly.

>>240708552
Yeah maybe you're right. I do go to tourneys but maybe I'll just learn PT's throw combos with Squirtle and uair/up+B kill setups with Ivysaur well enough to mess around with PT as a tertiary in casual matches, and focus on deciding between Ken and Inkling as a real, dedicated secondary. Thanks.
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How long does it take you guys to get about as good with a secondary as you are with your main? My Wario kept getting bodied in one of the earlier arenas and I thought everyone was just better than me but then I switched to G&W and sweeped everyone.
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>tfw no zero suit samus skin with the green hair and the pink leotard.
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>>240709112
>Your GSP doesn't have to do anything with the gameplay
Okay, you seem to be a literal toddler, so I'm gonna explain it real slow. You gain GSP when you win. You lose GSP when you lose. This means that people who are good at the game have high GSP. Get it, little man?
>waiting for you to disprove the fact that you can cheese GSP
How the fuck am I supposed to prove that something doesn't happen? Are you mentally ill? Do you not understand the burden of proof? You claim something exists, you have to prove it exists. If I assert that pigs can fly, I can't then go "WELL YOU HAVEN'T PROVED THAT THEY CAN'T." Jesus.
>As I said, you can be a good player and don't play QP at all
When the fuck did I say that you can't? My point is that your opinion on anything is irrelevant unless you can prove you're a good player, and being elite is the simplest way to prove that.
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>"hehehehe im gonna turn items on to cheese myself some GSP"
>player that is better than you beats you with items on anyway
>
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>Background matchmaking
>Find opponent in 8-12 seconds
>"""Quickplay"""
>30 seconds for the match to start+another 5 seconds for it to "Get Ready"
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>>240709616
>This means that people who are good at the game have high GSP
Wrong you fucking moron because you can be good at the game and don't have high GSP because you don't even take part in the fucking QP system.
>You claim something exists, you have to prove it exists.
People with illegal rulesets in elite exists, there are videos of it all over YT you moron
>My point is that your opinion on anything is irrelevant unless you can prove you're a good player
Your point is fucking retarded because being good at the game has nothing to do with the knowledge about the Quick Play system, you fucking idiot, you drooling subhuman jump off a fucking cliff
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>>240709763
That image coupled with your post made me lose my shit at 5 AM, thanks Anon.
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>>240709762
did that to a DK. he killed me with assist trophies twice, but i managed to fuck him in the ass with the death scythe
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>>240709762
>"hehehehe im gonna turn items on to cheese myself some GSP"
>Win against way better player because I got the MH assist trophy twice
nothin personnel
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>>240709763
just tried this and you need to navigate back to the menu every time you want to queue up?
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>>240710046
>Wrong you fucking moron because you can be good at the game and don't have high GSP because you don't even take part in the fucking QP system.
I already addressed this point later in the post, but I guess reading is hard for you.
>People with illegal rulesets in elite exists, there are videos of it all over YT you moron
I never denied that they exist, my claim is that they're so rare that they're irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. You keep insisting that they do matter, thus why the burden of proof is on you.
>Your point is fucking retarded because being good at the game has nothing to do with the knowledge about the Quick Play system, you fucking idiot, you drooling subhuman jump off a fucking cliff
I mean you're free to voice your opinion on that matter, but it really doesn't matter as long as you're a sub-elite shitter.
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>>240710360
>I already addressed this point later in the post, but I guess reading is hard for you.
Except you didn't
>they're so rare
It doesn't matter how fucking rare they are, they exist which already proves me wrong, kys.
>I mean you're free to voice your opinion on that matter, but it really doesn't matter as long as you're a sub-elite shitter.
Literally not a fucking argument. At this point you're just going "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU". Fucking embarassing, off yourself.
>>>Opinion
It's a fact you fucking moron
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>>240710052
No problem. I was going to use a less fitting image, but I found that Yoshi image and saved it for the same reason. Some Anon used it in an argument against me and I saw it and didn't respond back because the image made me laugh too hard.

>>240710316
Pretty much. It's basically like SFV's match-making except you don't have to stare at the damn screen the entire time you're waiting, you can go to training mode and etc.
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>>240708425
The problem with GSP is that it's hard to climb once you hit 30+ matches with any character. I have all the Miis in elite and a few others barely in or just shy. But I also have Mewtwo, Bayo, and Puff stuck at 500k because I played them week 1 and they're all so light that any mistake is a stock. Now I'm putting hella time into Bayo, but it's such a slow crawl (barely 1mill) despite me winning most of the time this past week.
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>>240710581
>Except you didn't
You literally replied to it, does your memory last 30 seconds? Is that how amoebas work?
>It doesn't matter how fucking rare they are
So basically you lost to a cheesy casual shitter once and cope by pretending the entire mode is irrelevant.
>Literally not a fucking argument. At this point you're just going "LALALA I CANT HEAR YOU". Fucking embarassing, off yourself.
That's funny coming from the guy who keeps claiming that half of my points aren't arguments. Including in this fucking line.
>It's a fact you fucking moron
Weird, facts usually have evidence.
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Cloud is the most boring character in this game.
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>>240710770
Would be really nice if you could press zr and re-queue
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>>240711026
That's a weird way to spell Olimar.
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>Wario with a projectile that isn't a bike
What's their name, /v/?
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>>240711008
>You literally replied to it
Where? Tell me
>So basically you lost to a cheesy casual shitter
Not an argument, I also don't play QP
>cope by pretending the entire mode is irrelevant.
Strawman argument
>That's funny coming from the guy who keeps claiming that half of my points aren't arguments. Including in this fucking line.
Dismissing everything I say by implying that my opinion doesn't matter because I'm not elite isn't an argument you idiot. Kill yourself, low IQ ape
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>>240711075
As a Lucario main, I'd rather fucking die.
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>>240711075
as a bowser main, my butt rash still itches a bit
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>>240711221
wario with a ray gun
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>>240710770
you know sfv has background matchmaking too right
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>>240711124

At least Olimar has to manage his pikmin and use the right ones for a given situation, which takes some skill. CLOD is just another retard anime swordsman with safe and spammable attacks, including his brainless side-b.

I can see why people play Olimar, he's actually kinda interesting.
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>>240711306
>Where? Tell me
Here you go, kiddo.
>Not an argument
>isn't an argument you idiot
At this point you're just pretending my arguments don't exist, just like you pretend you're good at this game.
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>Your character now has Wolf's neutral B. What tier is your main now?
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is falcon shit in this game
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>>240711706
Probably lower than before.
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wheres the arena fags
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>>240711790
iirc, worse than before but not shit
not sure about the exact changes, but you can probably look that up easily
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>>240711790
In my opinion he’s not very strong but I reserve judgement because it’s still early. Worth trying.
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>>240711591
>>240711958
You guys are useless.
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i will NEVER not laugh my ass off by finishing a match with a waft
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>>240711958
Up your ass
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>>240711683
>When the fuck did I say that you can't
You said that you can't when you said all Elite players are better than non-elite players, which is pure bullshit. I already said it often enough, there are non-elite players better than elite players and there are also elite players who fucking suck ass, simply because GSP is a shit system that doesn't display the exact skill of a player.
>At this point you're just pretending my arguments don't exist
As I said, dismissing things I say with "MUH GSP" isn't an argument, neither is implying shit that has nothing to do with the discussion like "u're just mad becuz you lost haha". Maybe you should use actual arguments for once if you want to be taken seriously, because just spouting "UH WHAT YOU SAID DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE I'M ELITE AND YOU'RE NOT" makes you look like the most stupid fucking poster in this entire general
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>>240711470
Any advice for a fellow bowser main?
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>>240711958
>>240712016
us arena chads are out slaying puss.
it's friday night anon
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>>240712162
>>240711683
Looks like it's time to settle it in smash.
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>>240712332
Contributes absolutely nothing to the discussion
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>>240712305
Why are you on 4chan whole fucking bitches?
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>>240712427
It doesn’t but you guys have been talking in circles for an hour. You should play and let us spectate.
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>Kumatora is in
>but she's a tag team duo with Steve

would you do it?
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>>240712648
kumatora is already in
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Your range is one fist short.
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>>240712648
cute
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>>240712162
>You said that you can't when you said all Elite players are better than non-elite players
There you go misinterpreting my words for your own gain again. I'm obviously referring to people who actively play it. People who don't play at all aren't necessarily bad, but they also have no way to prove they're good. Thus their opinions on things such as GSP mattering are irrelevant.
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>>240712859
>unable to join arena
fix ur passcode
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>>240712859
7243
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>>240713013
You put it in wrong. I’m always right.
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>>240713013
7243
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>>240712837
>they also have no way to prove they're good.
Unless you're god tier GSP you got no way to prove you're good either. Every retarded shitter can get into Elite.
>Thus their opinions on things such as GSP mattering are irrelevant.
Wrong because the knowledge about the GSP system has NOTHING to do with your skill in the game. I already said this a fuckton of times. You don't have to play the game at all to understand QP, having high GSP doesn't mean you understand QP, it merely means you're a decent player.
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this game is surprisingly unpolished. it feels very rushed.
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>>240712427
Not anon, but this is a fucking anonymous imageboard that doesn't even archive it's threads. Any "contributions" will remain redundant and the thread will never learn for whatever argument you're discussing.
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FUCK Simon players
dumb retard range spam bullshit
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>>240713249
t. Melee cuck
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>>240713390
lmao
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>>240713127
>Every retarded shitter can get into Elite
And thus we're back at your burden of proof issue you keep neglecting.
>You don't have to play the game at all to understand QP, having high GSP doesn't mean you understand QP
So basically you're one of those people who would say a game is bad despite never playing it.
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>>240713267
The individual posters can learn from the discussion if they aren’t stupid but that rarely happens.
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>>240713396
lmao no, melee is completely broken. Compared to ultimate it's like comparing CS 1.6 to overwatch
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>when u monado switch instead of vision
fuck my shit up i was gonna lose anyways lol
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do you think we'll get home run contests and break the targets back? maybe as DLC? maybe even free?
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>>240713249
I see what you mean, I miss stuff like trophies, home run contest, and especially the platforming bits in sub-space emissary.
It's worth it for the massive roster, though.
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>>240713390
Who are you playing as? Unless you're playing a slow heavy there's ways around it.
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>Play Ultimate for the first time with friends at college
>Finally experience playing the infamous K. Rool and Chrom
>Mop the floor with K. Rool because his moves are laggy as fuck and his hurtbox is huge
>Edgeguard Chrom into oblivion
I should've known not to believe all the complaints
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>youtube ridley for soundtracks
>first page is video after video of
>RIDLEY TOO MUCH DAMAGE
>RIDLEY OP
>PLEASE NERF RIDLEY
am I having a stroke?
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>>240713625
>board the platforms never ever
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>>240713662
I have good memories of SSE. Especially when playing with a friend
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>>240713467
>And thus we're back at your burden of proof issue you keep neglecting.
Look, I started playing Smash about 2 weeks ago. I played QP in the first 3 days and never touched it again until today. I'm at 2.9 million GSP, that's one fucking game away from Elite. Someone who owned the game for a few days almost got into Elite. I have no doubts I'd easily get into Elite if I wanted even though I'm average at best. All I need to do is win one fucking game.
>So basically you're one of those people who would say a game is bad despite never playing it.
I don't need to eat my shit to know it tastes like shit. Also, your comparison is retarded. Your knowledge about the QP system has nothing to do with your ingame skill, how difficult is that to grasp? If I had no fucking hands does that mean I can't inform myself about QP and form my own opinion about it because I'm not a skilled player? Fucking hell
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is there a place to view matchups and counters and shit? I'm looking to pick a secondary to cover weaknesses of my character or to fuck over characters I hate, but I dunno who
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>>240713716
Just a bunch of faggots crying because a Ridley fucked them up
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>>240713674
I was Ness and won 2 out of 3 games against him by getting creative with my approaches and outpredicting him, but it still wasn't any fun. He always has some more shit to throw at me
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is Ultimate actually balanced or am I getting memed on?
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I'm a non-elite shitter but here's an actual argument about the GSP shit.

It is possible to choose your own rules in a way intended to benefit your main/playstyle. But it only chooses your rules 50% of the time, and chooses the other guy's rules the other 50%. Unless you just get lucky and get your rules every single time, you still have to be able to beat people on their rules consistently enough to get into elite, since a 50% win rate isn't enough. Even then, just getting your rules doesn't guarantee you the win either, since there's no reason the other guy can't win despite rules they aren't used to, so you would have to be at least skilled enough to beat them on your own rules even if they're a lot better than you.

In other words, while a player's GSP doesn't necessarily indicate how well they would perform in a local tournament with tournament rules, it can give an idea of how skilled they are generally. The fact that the two people arguing are about 12k GSP apart doesn't really imply anything about which of the two is better, but the half-million GSP gap between the two of them and myself implies that I'm not as good as they are.
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>>240713883
From my experience, it's alright. Some shit will make you roll your eyes, like Inklings's ink mechanic and projectile spammers, but keep a cool head, play to your strengths, and learn to adapt, and you'll be alright.
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>>240713820
>I'm at 2.9 million GSP, that's one fucking game away from Elite
Once again, I'm talking about people who CONSISTENTLY PLAY quick play. Getting into elite isn't too hard, STAYING in elite while continuing to play is.
>If I had no fucking hands does that mean I can't inform myself about QP and form my own opinion about it because I'm not a skilled player?
No, but it does mean your opinion is irrelevant and shouldn't be shared with other people as though it's a fact.
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why do people spaz around the stage after they get a kill? is it the new taunting or do they just copy the what the pros do?
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>>240714171
It's the new taunting, alongside teabagging.
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other than putting off death for a few seconds at high percentages, what the fuck do i use monado shield for? gimps damage, speed, and recovery for a few seconds of poise and 40% less damage
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off-stage edgeguarding is too hard
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>>240714413
It's easy with Inkling :^)
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>>240714252
I've come across maybe two teabaggers in 500+ matches. my favorite taunt I've seen is the people who shield + b + rotate the analog stick
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>>240714413
well yeah, its pretty damn rewarding at even lower percents
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>>240714171
they think they're pros
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>>240714171
I like to do it just to keep my thumbs going
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>>240714413
Not for a Yoshichad like myself
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>>240714302
Keep in mind at any percentage where you're gonna be using shield mode, you've also got a hefty rage boost you can take advantage of.
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>>240714116
>Getting into elite isn't too hard
Yeah that's exactly what I said
>STAYING in elite while continuing to play is.
Doesn't matter. Someone can get into Elite for one game and brag about it like a retard by your logic, doesn't matter if he loses it next game. He was better than all of non-elite for 1 game and then he suddenly wasn't again. This is your logic.
>but it does mean your opinion is irrelevant and shouldn't be shared with other people as though it's a fact.
WRONG. Your knowledge about GSP and QP has literally NOTHING to do with your in-game skill. I have said this like 4 fucking times by now. Having fast reactions and in-game knowledge doesn't automatically give you fucking knowledge about QP and GSP. Knowledge about GSP and QP has literally NOTHING to do with gameplay, it's a fucking ranked system, you moron holy shit
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>>240713829
accurate, i play ribbon puff
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Make inkling's dash dance use ink
yes or no
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>>240713859
Fair enough. I'm not a huge fan of dealing with projectiles but each one of his has a counter to it. Especially against QP people who tend to get cocky and toss axe when they have no business eating the end lag
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i think im done. i dont know if im hitting the controller too hard or what but my up-tilt wasnt registering a lot in that match
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>>240714171
>>240714252
>>240714573
It's called strategy, more unpredictability is a good thing what's the point of standing still as non-moving target?

T-bagging on the other hand has no point aside from being disrespectful.
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Alright. Go ahead and laugh, but how the fuck do you deal with Little Mac? I know his recovery is trash and people normally just throw him off, but the little fucker just super armors through EVERYTHING I do
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Any rooms? Or should I make one
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>>240715009
his recovery is enough if you cant edgeguard. if youre good at edge guarding, little mac is nothing. otherwise, get better at fighting sonic that hits like a truck
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>>240714649
>He was better than all of non-elite for 1 game and then he suddenly wasn't again. This is your logic.
No, that's YOUR logic. How many times do I need to say that I'm specifically referring to people who play consistently? Somebody isn't immediately tough shit by being elite, they have prove that they actually play and didn't just get to elite and quit. There are a few ways to do this, but the easiest is being high enough in elite that you couldn't have possibly gotten there from just a few wins.
>Your knowledge about GSP and QP has literally NOTHING to do with your in-game skill. I have said this like 4 fucking times by now.
And as I've said several times, I'm not debating that. My point is that your opinion about it is irrelevant unless you can PROVE your in-game skill, and the easiest way to do that is showing your elite status. The only other way to prove your competence would be by fighting the person directly, which is stupid.
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>>240715075
make one anon
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>>240715075
I made one anyways.
JBDK7
7243
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>first hispanic named opponent since launch that didn't have complete shit internet
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>>240715198
Honestly, with the changes to neutral B and side B along with directional airdodges, Little Mac's recovery is unfairly good for how bullshit he is on stages like FD. As long as he gets hit high his recovery is pretty free.
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>>240715251
>My point is that your opinion about it is irrelevant unless you can PROVE your in-game skill
What someone says has nothing to do with his ingame skill. Skill doesn't change an argument, it doesn't change what's being said. You're acting like a fucking child.
>The only other way to prove your competence would be by fighting the person directly, which is stupid.
It's the most accurate measurement of skill
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>>240714723
No. What they should do however is scale back up B distance with lower ink. God forbid they have to resource manage a recovery that comes back from a bottom corner blast zone
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Nerf Ike
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>>240715757
>What someone says has nothing to do with his ingame skill. Skill doesn't change an argument, it doesn't change what's being said.
Are you really arguing that people who have no idea what they're talking about should be telling new players things about the game?
>It's the most accurate measurement of skill
It's also a measurement of skill that takes way too much time compared to just showing your damn GSP.
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>>240715757
>What someone says has nothing to do with his ingame skill. Skill doesn't change an argument, it doesn't change what's being said.
I'm sorry what?
Have you ever been good at anything?
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nice job everyone, sorry about the lag, I swear I have good internet and an Ethernet adapter
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>>240715918
Learn to punish.
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>>240715929
>Are you really arguing that people who have no idea what they're talking about should be telling new players things about the game?
Knowledge =/= skill
>It's also a measurement of skill that takes way too much time compared to just showing your damn GSP.
GSP is inaccurate. Unless you can prove you have no problems staying in high GSP, your GSP doesn't mean much.
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>>240716221
Oh sure just punish someone with hitboxes the size of a tree and low endlag.
Everyone at smash conference is fucking trash lmao *dabs*
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>>240715757
>Skill doesn't change an argument, it doesn't change what's being said.
respond to the argument i made then, i didnt write this shit to be completely ignored
>>240713898
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>>240715310

In the future please post your region or make sure you have a good connection, you're a good robin but the lag was unbearable.
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>>240716310
>Knowledge =/= skill
Knowledge is a huge part of skill.
>GSP is inaccurate.
A somewhat inaccurate indicator of skill is better than one that takes 20 minutes.
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>>240716193
Fuck zelda and her anti-pressure glass cannon stall kit, she is infuriating to play against

here's a fucking flow chart
>are they far away
dins fire
>are they on a platform or off stage
charge knight up
>oh shit they wiffed a move
dash attack
>i forgot what i am doing
random fmsash
>i forgot what I am doing AGAIN
spam fair/bair relentlessly hoping the opponent will run into it
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If I keep lagging I’ll just move to spectate
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>>240716338
>Low endlag
I should've known you were baiting. Got me.
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>>240713898
>It is possible to choose your own rules in a way intended to benefit your main/playstyle.
Yes this is retarded but it's very likely these one trick ponies wont make it into elite smash with the decent players around the 2.5+ range.
I have played hundreds of games in this range and have ran into one maybe 3 non-standard rulesets, and never items.
A custom ruleset never tips the game drastically in your favor.
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>>240716610
are you some 60k gsp and using f-smash in neutral and wondering why you die?
yes. low endlag.
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>>240716454
>Knowledge is a huge part of skill.
Debatable. Also, you can have much knowledge in certain parts of the game and no knowledge about another at all. Imagine a low GSP shitter with 0 reflexes who knows everything about 1 thing but nothing about everything else. Does his low GSP invalidade his opinion on the one thing he actually knows shit about? No because it's just a fucking number that has nothing to do with the argument
>A somewhat inaccurate indicator of skill is better than one that takes 20 minutes.
Judging someones post by whats being said is better than posting a fucking screenshot of your GSP every single time you say something (considering you actively play QP otherwise you're fucked)
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>losing to little mac
>literally tap him offstage with anything
>now winning to little mac
I seriously don't understand how people can stomach playing him in ultimate
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>>240716628
I don't know which of the two you are but I never disagreed with you on that point.
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>>240716357
You're completely right there's nothing to argue about in your post, the reason it has no replies is because everyone agrees
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>>240716461
lol her best move is her neutral b, makes her invincible and stops any non true combo as well as all approaches, everything else she has is mediocre.
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god this brap is like a free stock
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>>240716781
>don't know which of the two you are
neither
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>>240716383
Yeah sorry. Forgot about that. Im west coast.

Also does wario have a counter wtf lol
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>Been playing since 64
>"Fuck it, time to learn wavedashing."
>3 minutes of practice later I literally just found out Y+A simultaneously makes you immediately to you aerial without cancelling each other button out
Not sure if that's a new feature or I just been dumb as shit since Melee.
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rooms up

Central US
60X95
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>>240716859
it's a new feature and it's sub optimal in most situations.
also why are you try to wavedash in ultimate?
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>>240716717
>Does his low GSP invalidade his opinion on the one thing he actually knows shit about?
No, but it makes his opinion highly questionable and likely incorrect.
>Judging someones post by whats being said is better than posting a fucking screenshot of your GSP
The number of people in here who don't know what they're talking about outnumber the people who do. Can't just trust any post that looks legitimate. I mean look at pic related, is this the type of person you want "educating" new players?
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>>240716696
Shut up bitch.
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>>240716983
>No, but it makes his opinion highly questionable and likely incorrect.
But the chance of him being right still exists, so his opinion actually is worth something since it could be completely right.
>Can't just trust any post that looks legitimate.
Then analyze it and find out if he's wrong or not?
>I mean look at pic related, is this the type of person you want "educating" new players?
That's a harsh example. If this guy isn't baiting he's the very, very bottom of /ssbg/
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>>240716696
You're telling me you can't punish any of his laggy giant-ass swings?
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>>240716976
Eh something to learn since my skill seems to have hit a peak and more unpredictability isn't a bad thing.
Although the now that I know those buttons work together now, I might try go back to maining small characters again.
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>>240717289
yeah let me just slide my hand through a spinning fan while I'm at it
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i really don't know how to deal with palutena
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>>240717429
Forget learning to punish. Get some irl reflex training. You're making me worry.
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Everywhere I go, they're sold out of GameCube controllers. You guys have any alternatives, and or a place to pick one up? I'm in Orlando, Florida.
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>>240717641
amazon
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>>240717338
Wavedashing just doesnt work in ultimate.
the insta arial is good for punishes and out of shield options but best to regular short hop in neutral if you're looking to improve
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>>240715310
two spots open west coast
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>>240717641
using the same original one i've had since 2002
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>>240717851
>but best to regular short hop in neutral if you're looking to improve
Yeah i've been practicing on that before I learned about this, has helped my character significantly.
Right now i'm just trying to figure out how to beat opponents who use the shield, roll, and counter strat.
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>>240718038
gg helios just enough lag to mess with my inputs. No wonder, it's west coast.
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Guys when I put my cartridge in I apply some pressure to the docked switch. It won't damage the switch right?
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>>240718403
>buying physical
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>>240718403
Just get the dockpads
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>>240718457
Not getting resell value
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>>240718575
>selling games
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>>240677993

Fuck off moxy
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>>240718403
not unless you're forcing it down with the strength of dr. the hulk
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>>240718457
>he didn't get the steelbox and gc adapter
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>>240718119
>have 4 controllers
>2 broken
>but am adult boy with money job now
>buy tri-wing screwdriver, open and clean, and manage to unfuck them
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>>240718696
>GCbabs
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>every single time I fight K. Rool as K. Rool
>without fail
>we both go to opposite sides of the stage and start tea bagging
>start shooting cannonballs and playing tennis with them until one of us wins

Absolute bros.
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>>240718183
No excused noob.
Jk your Ganon is nasty
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>he crams a after the match so I can't see his gsp sink

hehe
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>>240718967
Wew this post actually almost upset me
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>>240718702
wow anon, your father and I are so proud of you
you really are the tech wiz of this family haha
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>>240718702
Off-topic, but what's that gif from?
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>get endlessly juggled by yoshi
how do i beat em?
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>>240719102
it's okay little stinker, even if you cram your buttons to hide your shame the world knows you are bad.
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>>240719213
don't get asspained because you didn't keep your controllers and have to beg for them now
>>240719279
>he doesn't know
Yeah galo sengen
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Where is the survrery that Nintendo did about what characters should be in smash? Where can I find the results having a hard time finding it.
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>>240719292
the only way to beat him is by not playing the game
thats the only sure fire way to make sure he can't win against you
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>beat with my own main
Kill me now
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>>240719552
lets say not playing the game is not option
how do i win in the field of combat?
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GGs robin
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>>240719349
I don’t even do that. I think it’s that smug comment + that smug squid that went straight to my chest. Would definitely bully you.
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>At 2.3m GSP
>Game says yeah a 2.9m Ike is what you should fight
>He spams me off the stage and never worries because of all his recovery tools
Fucking party games!
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>>240719661
Gg’s!
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>>240719410
anon I have had the same controller since Melee,
the only difference is that I didn't feel the need to come on here and talk about how I repair my controller instead of buying a new one.
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