MINING AND SMITHING REWORK IS UPPrevious thread: >>240254137Official World: 42Official FC: "grindanfc"Clan: GrindanScape (For an invite, go into the FC and ask for one. Requirements: 1500 total, Membership, at least one week active play)>/rsg/ Guides Imgur Albumhttps://imgur.com/a/05f8m>Beastmaster Durzag and Yakamaru indepth guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1TJxAq1knHKqxefud_MbEuDEnpIJnep2ZwPn9A4A4PU4/https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nmjaB7WokhM2E4K62cbK6q12cf70_gOwnuBW1iK5_cE/>I've been inactive since the First Age, what did I miss?https://runescape.wiki/w/Game_updates>Latest Patch Noteshttp://services.runescape.com/m=forum/forums.ws?442,443,1,66067650>Latest Updatehttp://services.runescape.com/m=news/mining-and-smithing-reworkHAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE MINING AND SMITHING REWORK?>RuneScape in 2019 - an introductionhttp://services.runescape.com/m=news/an-introduction-to-2019https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8seXaqhrO8>RuneScape Winter Reveals (RuneFest 2018)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYn1hnGj8oI
folding bars is suffering
They're masterworks, all. You can't go wrong!
>need to do all varrock and new varrock tasks for smithinghow do you guys do it?
I just realized oddments are directly tradeable to lampsI have thousands of themno worries getting my combat skills up now
>>240464815doing itit's really simple, reallyand you don't need it for smithing, the mining benefits are a lot better
Why can't we make skirts out of the new metals?Or maces?
>>240464815the varrock tasks aren't really that bad
>>240465295>skirtsbecause even women wore platelegs back in the dayplateskirts are a really stupid idea>macesCLERICS OUT
>>240465606That Drakolith 2 Handed Hammer though.
>>240465712warhammers are the true warrior weaponmace faggot can burn in hell
What I wanted to just buy masterwork trimmed. How much would that run me?
>>240466304buy the finished set? some folks saying ~250m at the moment
>>240466304bout tree fiddy
Is there any reason to NOT smith at the workshop?
8 glorious bars done4 left
bane has crashed my master plans with no survivorsi really don't want to go mine 1200 of the stuff
>>240468941It doesn't take too long.
>>240468941Your money and infrastructure has been important, until now.
>>240468667I did a few hundred corrupt ore at the workshop and I CANT GET ANY RESPECT
>>240469510it doesn't look like you get respect for smelting, only smithingi've done a few thousand rune bars by now for 10xp each and my respect has stayed at 32%
>>240469510you get it from smithing not smelting
>>240469772you get 1% per 10k experience, so 1k bars at 10xp each should have brought you to 33%
>>240468941I'm already done with bane but I still need the orikalkum and necronium stuff
>>240469909oh ok disregard >>240469947 then
Come bear witnessW14 at 00:00 game time
>>240474102will be there
>>240472623How long did this take?
i really hate the graphic they went with for the rockerpotunity i strongly suspect the artists who did the ores and the artists who did the particles didn't talk to each other at all, considering how many ore models almost completely hide the particle effect
Got my 12 immaculate bars, time to make full Elder Runite +5.
>>240472623Attention:All Runeman GamersI am in great Danger and I need your help to MAX and start the real gamebut to do this I'm going to need >audienceto help me all I need is your [spoilers]IP, bank pin and account password[/spoilers] but you gotta be quick so that I can secure the funds to become an EPIC PVMlet
>>240474883I'm incredibly lazy so like 13 yearsbut I quit for a few of those
>>240474973you can barely see it on one of the bane rocks
>>240475384IP: 192.168.15.1bank PIN: 9753password: slayer18042013
>>240475384My bank pin is tied to my authenticator, so you'll have to let me know when you need it, okay?
>>240476512Ok, I'll be waiting. Right now there are some mercher fags there whining about how the m&s updates sucks so much.
Once I finish my Masterwork set I’ll fonally be able to get more than 4 kills per trip I was get at twin furies with Bantoast armor
>>240476627>>240476512there's so many people here, where are you guys?
>>240477439>Not using the Jaitzo mine with the guy who notes your ores
>>240477624>>240474883>>240475384>>240472623>>240472854changed to w42 GE
>>240477637>Jaitzo mine has banitei hadn't heard about thisthe floor is fucking dark it actually has visual contrastyou don't know how much you've done for me, thank you
>>240477942You gotta have the elite fremnik tasks done to access it though
>>240478203no worries, i got the fancy shoes years ago
>Imcando Pickaxe and Gold Mining Suit are now fast as fuck to get God damn zoomers these days will never know the suffering of going for hours waiting for the Nymph to spawn
>>240475384gz anon, don't forget the banners
Back in my day, the mining guild only had coal and mithril. We also had to fight over rocksAND WE LOVED IT.
>>240480412>weno we didn'tit was shityou needed level 60 mining to get in and it was shit
I went from nothing to imcando pick in about 3 hours
>>240480615Stop ruining his nostalgia. If he wants to pretend thats how it was and try to talk shit like he's some old timer, for clout, then that's his business.
>>240480939goodI don't wish being stuck there for 26 hours for anyone
>>240481021fuck him and his nostalgia
Have there been any new quests in the gods line since Sliske's Endgame? What're Seren and Zaros up to these days? haven't been subbed in a few years but I enjoyed the story
>>240481746nopebig drought of quest content in 2018actually content in general, last year was mostly patch weeks
what auras should I buy? already have berserker
>>240482671Do you have maniacal and reckless?
>>240483185Then get those.
>>240483257what else would you recommend?
I swear having higher rep in gwd2 fucks with your drops. At 0 greg rep I was getting minimum 300k a drop. Now at 50% increased drops, I've gotten 40k six times.
The price of lum is going to tank, just fyi for those of you who think it's a good idea to horde it. In fact the price of all ores will tank to the high alch value before it will be stuck in a state of being used for high alch due to abundance.The price of nature runes is going to start going up.The price of bonds are going to go up way beyond 20 mil. I suspect approximately 50-100 mil by the end of the week.
>>240484019>bonds up to 50-100mI understand the others but wtf?
>>240484178never take economic advice from /rsg/
>>240484178since this fucking retard here >>240484336 had to say something, let me explain it to you. The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the game. Bonds raise in value when the game becomes less popular, but, also when high alchemy makes more money, as it does now. Because it's now piss easy to get rune bars and high alchemy the hell out of them, free to play players are going to be buying the hell out of them which will increase the value.
>>240484019The ores should retain a bit if value over their high alch considering theyre all required for Masterwork.
>>240484564>The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the gamethis is probably the stupidest shit I've heard today
>>240484564yea okay mr goyim
>>240484771this right here is what we call an "ass hurt" man child that is losing gold from the update. Notice how they can't defend their statement with an explanation. By telling people bullshit and trying to get people to buy it, they project how they wish to save their precious gold coins when in reality, they're just a shill.
>>240484957this is probably the stupidest projection I've heard today
>>240484832>>240485138>>240484771say what you will. trying to convince only 2 or 3 people on /vg/ isn't going to stop it.
>>240484564Could you explain your thought process to say that's what bases bond prices?
>>240485232convince them on what? you’re the one trying to convince us that bond prices will, somehow, be 50m in 4 days
>>240485310It use to take me 7 days to get a bond, but, now I can get a bond in less than 2 days. Pretty sure that's going to change the price of bonds.
>>240484564>The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the game.literally whathigh alch is not the core of the runescape economythe price of bonds is determined by perceived utility vs perceived cost of investment and scarcity
Bond prices will never be more than 30m. Don't listen to this guy. He's just trying to get you guys to panic sell shit so he can make money off of you.
>>240485485No matter what you "perceive", the amount of gold in circulation is what limits everything no matter how much your little high school economics teacher disagrees.
Huge plates rune salvage? That's what I buy with my tickets yeah?
>>240485472>It use to take me 7 days to get a bond, but, now I can get a bond in less than 2 daysHow? Because rune is faster to mine? Did you forget that the alch prices of rune items went to shit? And that nothing drops rune ore anymore?
>>240485621except there won’t be more money entering the economy, it gonna be the same if not less
holy shit making rivets is annoying as fuck
What's the fastest way to earn respect in the workshop? I need the armor sets.
>>240487034something that gives high xp dropsyou get 1% respect for each 10k xp you get
Can someone explain the benefits of using the Superheat item spell versus just clicking the forge to reheat?Someone was saying that it's better to spam use the spell, but I can't understand why.
>>240487123Does that include burial sets?
>>240487453it should, yes
>>240487295i assume that if you have it on the actionbar it doesn't interrupt whatever you're doing, so i'd imagine it's about ensuring constantly max heat by casting it right before every smithing strikeafaik there's not really a point to reheating every strike without the smithing skillcape though
>>240487574Cool, thank you.
Have they fixed the bane armor player model scaling issue yet?
Time for maximum no-XP afking.
>>240487783The point is that even if you have it on the action bar, you need to click the item you want to heat.I'm not sure if that stops the smithing, though.
>>240487034Fix the burst pipes on the floor. 0.25% respect each.
>>240488031normally things on the actionbar don't interrupt actions
>>240488031Yeah the action bar doesn't allow for reheating via superheat. I don't stay on top of it, but if I happened to be tabbed in and I'm not close to hitting an auto reheat I'll cast it once or twice. It doesn't interrupt doing it this way.
>>240488197Yeah, but I would imagine that clicking the item would.Maybe not, I'll check later when I'm online.If it doesn't stop the animation, then yes, I see why it's better than clicking the forge.
Is it just me or did the bond prices rise?
>>240488283Your post kind of confused me even more.You start saying that the action bar doesn't allow for reheating, but end it saying that it doesn't interrupt it?
>>240488487The bonds rise!
>>240488487yeah obviously, it’s gonna get to 100m till the end of the week
Difference between hammer tron and crystal hammer? I have the hammer tron I'm just unsure if I need the other
>>240488571You can put the in-progress item on your action bar (say to X) and superheat (say too Z). You can't hit Z then X, it just won't allow you to cast onto the item on your bar. You can however, hit Z and click the in-progress item in your inventory, and this doesn't interrupt you.I think due to the left-click for the in-progress item being Destroy you can't superheat directly using the bar.
>>240488948Small difference but crystal hammer takes the edge.
>>240488956Oh, gotcha. So yeah, it seems to be better after all.Gonna give it a try. Thanks for the explanation.
that stupid pickaxe costs like 25m to make from scratch
>>240489176Just get an elder + 5 and wait for the price of the d pick to come down.
>>240488948crystal hammer has 1% chance to double your progress per hitit's kind of small but it's cheap enough to make one to be worth it
>>240488038I've tried this and it's either glitched or doesn't work anymore
any idea what full elder rune +5 is going for right now?
>>2404903352 or 3 gp.
>>240490335more than 10
>>240490439>>240490450well which is it
>tfw prayer renewals outheal your prayer consumption on superheat form wearing gotecomfy
>spent 2 days collecting ores and smithing masterwork>trimmed masterwork>equip it to have it custom fit>cant augment it due to equipping it making it unaugmentable>still degrades on reaper and slayer tasksthanks jafex.
The new armor sets are all based off the "Judge" armors from final fantasy 12. Not making this up.
>>240490335i will sell you my set for 5m
>>240490993we'll need some pictures, anon
>>240491005I'm not buying though
>>240490867we said that many times last thread
>>240491065exactly. nobody is
>>240491161I wasn't on 4chan so i didn't see that
>>240491305We're not on 4chan either. This is 4channel.
>>240491305there were also many posts about it on reddit
>>240491396i also dont use reddit
>>240491471well too bad
The virgin platelegs>Needs full protection and support for his baby legs>Spends all his time bossing for better platelegs, literally cucked by money>Hunched over due to the weight of his armourThe Chad Chaps>Slim aesthetic for maximum comfort>Easy access to the back to drop a manly shit on his enemies>Doesn't even need armour, wears whatever he feels like>Legs bent like a gazelle for maximum speed
6 masterwork plates ready6 to go
Have a full set of dyed malevolent that's level 20. Is there a way to upgrade it to trimmed masterwork (since malevolent is used in making it) so that the masterwork inherits my perks and equipment level, or am I fucked?
>>240491985nice legs mate
>>240492218you're fuckedthe best you can do is use a separator so you can recover your gizmos to put on the new armor
>>240492218you're fuckedyou can take the perks off of it without destroying it using an equipment seperator but you're better off just buying two new malev platebodies to turn into essence
>>240490867That's because you trimmed it idiot. Also fitting it only makes the item untradable. You're just stupid it sounds like.
>>240492436>fitting it only makes the item untradableit also halves drain charge and makes it not use charges while on slayer/reaper tasksbut that last part is bugged, they're gonna fix it
>>240492436what the fuck are you talking about?
>>240492436you sound pretty stupid yourself
>>240490335>>240490770well, here's the instant sell price as of 5 minutes agojust listed them all at 1gp since I only wanted the achievement
>>240495850who would seriously buy those? they're inferior to potato teralith in practically every way
unexpected but welcome
>>240496107people training smithing
>>240496239its 200k xp for an elder rune burial set isn't it? damn, that's expensive xp.
>>240495850what the fuckwhy is elder rune so close to its alch prices alreadyi know literally everyone made a set but these people do realize that elder rune burial armor sets are like 1m xp/hr right?
>>240496368some people have a lot of gp to burnit could also be someone buying it because they like the set and want to keepsake it
>>240495850Just went and instasold mine after seeing this. Got a little more than you.
>>240495850I think that might be what's contributing to the decline, actuallypeople just doing elder rune +5 for the cheivo, then dumping it on the ge
>>240497387well that much was obvious
orichalcum is probably the most cancerous ore out of the whole bunch>only one safe place it can be mined>all rocks are spaced far apartliterally the worst
for ironmen what's the best metal to mine/smith? hopefully t60/t70 because both would be fucking dead otherwise
>>240500939why would the best be anything other than whatever the highest tier metal you can mine/smithwhy do you think it would be any different for ironmenthe whole point of the overhaul is that players have to do everything nowthe only difference between ironmen and regular players mining and smithing wise is that ironmen can't outsource
Mining is comfySmithing is not so comfy
>>240487295>Someone was saying that it's better to spam use the spell, but I can't understand why.You know, things are a lot easier to understand once you look them up. Or at least take a look at your items' tooltips.
>>240505524What if he's a shitter without 99 smithing?Be nice
mine and smith
Zygomites at PoF: 120m xp/hr
>have made over 100m profit from a few days of casul play, starting from 8mu nerds are ez money
>>240513434Something weird happened. Instead of gathering produce from one pen, closing the ui and receiving the urn xp, then moving to another pen and repeating. I decided to stand with all pens in click range and gathered from all 12 zygos at once before closing the ui and popping the urns. My interface bugged the fuck out and my farm graphics glitched up when I got that sweet 240k urn xp drop.Bank chest showing as a deposit box, pens showing as unbuilt, etc.
gmorning anonymouswah gwan?
>>240517297fold the bars make them pretty
Careful guys we got ourselves a real bad ass here
fold the barsmake them prettyfold the bars make them pretty
threadly reminder to crude yourself
>>240519504Some of those characters need to be moved to tryhard corner. Mostly everyone after captain America to the right.
>>240520646eh details are allowed they're still wonky lines and basic geometry slapped together and not actual drawings with effort put into themalthough i feel captain america should be in the tryhard corner myself
>>240519504I'm terrible at paint and I'm left handed, everything I make on it is an abomination.
>>240518923>sole_rapergot i hate these foot fetishists like the genie near narda constantly asking for soles
>>240521040sounds perfect, you know theres a lefty option for pc mice right?i used it once when i fucked up my fingers and couldnt play age of empires right handed
>>240521154Really? Maybe I should try that next time.
so one underrated feature imo is that prospecting is backi like being able to know shit without lookin it up on the wiki
>>240523469>i like being able to know shit without lookin it up on the wikiMe too. I always liked going to the game guide to find out levels for things, and always wished they'd have more information there.I think at some point during the rs.wiki changeover they announced that they do want wiki information integrated into the game in some way. So that's nice.But prospecting is better because it's straight interacting with the object itself and is a logical action to get information from. I really like it.
i forgot how irritating getting large amounts of specific invention components isfuck clear components in particular
>>240523469>>240524041the level requirements are on the map you dumb cunts
>>240524132stackable geodes be givin out them gems like its nobodies business
>>240524268Dude, prospect a rock. It gives more than level requirements.
>>240524274i hadn't even thought of that, i wonder just how low gem prices will go
>>240524425eh the dip probably wont be massive could already farm gems from wallsafes if you needed them
another pet peeve about inventionthe invention components pouch is the old style of blocking interface where you can't have it open and do something at the same timewhich is just irritating
>>240524330Prospect my cock, faggot
>>240525280shauny is actually working on thatposted a working gif of it so it might be in QA by now
>>240525332shauny is too good for jagex, they don't deserve him>implying jagex has QA
>>240490867It's on the list(tm) of bugs to be fixed.I posted a link to a Jmod stating this on plebbit in the last thread.
ohoh deari suppose i should have read the fine printwhat's the quickest way to get item xp, specifically armorand what's the not-as-quick but lower effort way to get item xp
>>240527695Kill lots of things very quickly.Lower effort way is to kill lots of things very quickly while NOT using the most optimal abilities for the exact situation (Such as making good use of detonate and tsunami for example), just revo++ afk FAGGING.
>>240527980what things are optimal for genociding, specifically with meleei need to get the good gizmos off my torva so i can use it for praesulic essence
I finally got my robe top.
>>240528380Off the top of my head, abyssals, vyres, corrupted workers, salawa ahks.And on that note, I like this bar for the first two, swapping zerk out for devo for the latter two. With mutated fury of course.
>>240479652I got a 'First Age Coin'from mine. No clue what to do with it, but it says it's 'very valuable'.
>>240529489alch value is 1m that's about it
>>240529489Alchs for a mil. Doesn't seem to have any disassembly purpose like rare relics though.
This just in: the World Guardian has destroyed a priceless artifact from the first age of Gielinor's history, an extremely rare coin minted in commemoration of the first settlers' meeting with Guthix.The Crux Eqal are on the case, but previous attempts to bring the World Guardian to justice have so far failed due to the prison cells not being Home Teleport-proof.
>>24046207526 yr olds boomer here. How the fuck can I get my account back from 2005. I have no idea what email/account name I used. I was level 90. Good for 12-13 yr old me. Started playing when I was 11 lol. Started my spiral from normie to social retard. I quit rs and immediately got addicted to vanilla wow and BC for years.
>>240533961if you have no idea what the username and email are, you're pretty much fuckedif you can at least remember one of them you have a chance
>Strong mining and smithing urns are now f2p, despite normal mining and smithing urns doing up to level 50Weird buff, but ok.
>>240533961Do you at least remember your character name?From back then that used to be the username used to login.
>>240534340>>240534132I remember the character name. That is it. Hopefully I can contact jagex and sort it out. I want to play mobile rs
>>240534340>>240534132Also the account was linked to my mommies credit card. So that should help.
>>240534485just so you know, the publicly mobile version of rs would have you start over anyways even if you had the account, old school runescape isn't the mainline game
>>240534597>>240534485If you remember your character name, go here.https://secure.runescape.com/m=accountappeal/passwordrecoveryAnd follow the steps.
>>240534665Well fuck me>>240534685Cheers lad
>>240534665Rs3 mobile isn't out yet?
>>240534863It's on beta for android.
>>240536231but what can you smith pages into?
Folding my glorious Nippon steel at work. Once I've got all 12 bars how long do the plates take? Is it all relatively quick?
>>24053894810000 progress each, and you need to take care of heat
>>240539310For each step of plate production? Wew.
>>240539781Well I guess its good in a way since it gives me something to easily afk. On a similar note, since I'm busy with this, does anyone know the price on gorajian mushrooms? I usually Arc farm for my Zygos at work but I'd rather bang this out.
>>240540661don't forget autoheater if you want to afkmushrooms pic related
fellas let's appreciate the geniuses who edit the wiki more,,,,,,
>>240540903that title doesn't mean he was the one who edited morelots of people have that title
>>240540994no I mean let's appreciate them morenot that he edited more or anythingalso it requires a jmod to add the title unlock item to the account so it can't be that common
>>240541114>>240540994also I count only 267 people who have that title as per the wiki page for it, not really "lots of people", anon
>>240541114oh I see what you meanand if I remember right, the wiki admins are the ones that contact jmods when they think someone deserves the titleand now that the new wiki is actually endorsed by jagex, I also believe there must be a jmod or 2 that are wiki admins themselves
>>240541286that's still more people than most boss titles
Other than Kags, Suity, and the Yak guy are there any other autists directly mentioned in game?
>>240541560the hard to get ones, at least
>>240541640the guy that got the first 4k telos kill
>>240541752Oh yeah. That's pretty legit though, even if Pantheon just sped up the inevitable.
>>240541672also not really, shauny's stream from the end of december shows only kk, corp, ed2, barrows, and solak collection logs are lower than the wikian
>>240542385I haven't seen that one yetok, fair enough
Halfway done folding bar 9. Havent even started tempering the plates yet. I want to get off the ride.
>>240534230>Strong mining urns don't actually progress in f2p, despite being f2p items and being able to be made and activated in f2pSounds like i just wasted 500 clay.
oh shit I just noticed that they updated this to show how may keys you havetoo bad it doesn't work when you have more than 100 though
wait there's something bothering methe guid of things to get before rework told us to get 720 steel bars, because you would need 120 rivetsbut you make 10 rivets per barso you really just need 12 barsdid I get this wrong?
>>240546715plus the 600 you needed already
>>240546829yeah yeah, that's why it was 720, 600 + 120 for rivetsbut it should really have been 612
>>240547091i don't know, now you are confusing me. good luck solving this riddle and enjoy your masterwork set.
>>240547207I believe there was a point in the beta where each rivet needed a bar, that's why you needed 120 extra steel bars to make the 120 rivetsand then they changed to 10 rivets per bar, and people just forgot to reduce the amount of steel bars needed
>>240546715>>240547375The posted image said 614, to include making the ore box as well.
>>240547932I swear I've seen a list saying 720maybe it was on reddit, idk
>>240548210Yeah some of the leddit guides were overly complicated and also wrong, not accounting for things like the ore box and sometimes even rune bars for the full elder+5 set. Ritsus simple notepad guide was truly the best.
Does Aftershock go on the MH or the OH weapon?
>>240551842MH so you don't lose stacks when using defensives that need shield.
>>240462075>All existing smithable gear of at least steel quality is replaced with tokens, which can then be used in the artisan's workshop to purchase your choice of either gear or salvage depending on whether you want to use it or alch it.>all my trimmed rune gear got fucking turned into tokens
>>240552740>all my trimmed rune gear got fucking turned into tokenscheck again
>>240552740Are you sure? They said trimmed/god armor from clue scrolls wouldn’t be changed.
>>240552813>>240552942even so, the change to the value of rune gear is probably gonna devalue trimmed armor across the board
where can I mine luminite?
>>240553230mining guild resource dungeon is where i go
>>240553230Mine west of khazard battlefield has no requirements
>>240553094they weren't changed at alltheir alch price is the same as before the update
>>240553094The alch price is still the old one for trimmed/god armor.Besides, some of them give fortunate components.
FUCK THISI'M GETTING AN AUTOHEATER
>>240555497why didnt you have one already anon?
>>240555653because I though I could endure heating the bars manuallyspoiler: I couldn't
I have an autoheater but it doesn't autoheat anything? I have about 200 coal in my metal bank.
>>240557021gotta let shit cool right the fuck down just keeps it workable doesnt actually keep it hot :^)
I think due to the huge resource investment into TMW it should give some XP. Keep Glorious Bars at 1k, maybe each step of the plates gives like 2000 xp. Man this is rough, only on my second plate (I havent even curved the first one).
>>240557330it was deliberately made like this so people would only ever do it for money or for themselves
>>240557572Oh I know, but man it's bad. A bit of token XP for the sheer time investment would be nice. Or even if they did something like one fully tempered plate giving you like 2% respect at least.
>>240557878just make it give some respect and I'm cool with it not giving xp
>>240557238gote + superheat form + elven prayer crystal makes afk smithing good since it's not at lowest heat level
>>240560483stop using java
>>240560736html5 beta or bust
>>240561005enjoy not playing in a few months
>>240561070the image is years old anonim on nxt now
>Need to make 10m in 5 days to afford a bondI'm so screwed
how are rune dragons after the rework?
>>240561209Just stop being poor.
>>2405612092m/daythats not a lot anon, you could just grind hunter or something
>>240561283same as before except no ore drops
>>240561283Similar. ED3 will be the final death knell.
>>240561209>he didn't capitalize on the massive profits on M&S update day 1
did you finish your masterwork set, /rsg/?
>>240564121No, on my 6th plate. And that doesn't include curving, tempering, etc.
>>240561209Why does everybody in the game keep saying something like this?
>>240564121Yes. Trimmed, augmented, and custom-fitted.
>>240564312you can do it anon>>240564573nice work anon
>>240564319They want you to give them free shit.
>>240564778Just took another sippy of Perfect Plus and popped my Elf Shard. I'm gonna do it, 9gag.
>>240564121Still mining for my animes.Just got my +5 set done.Can't wait to bleed my soul on the anvil.
Anyone know how much people have sold full Masterwork for?
>>240565484I've heard trimmed is down to 150m today, so regular must be lower than that
Does anyone know if Trimmed Masterwork degrades in elite dungeons?
>>240566485I shouldn't. Have fun using melee in EDs.
>>240566485I did 1 run in ed2 this morning and it didn't seem to degrade.
>>240566587I always use melee in EDs so suck it. I've done dozens of them using melee and don't have any trouble. I splash a bit in ed2 but I prefer ed1 anyway so its all good. Basically I melee everything, including Telos.
>>240567126>meleeing Seriyu and Big Dick MasutaMadman.
>>240567194melee isn't that bad for seriyu though, since his flame attack doesn't hit you
>>240567483I'd probably get banged by hands. I'm sure you 2 cycle without breaking a sweat though.
>>240564319Something something blogging communication empathy etc.Expressing the frustration of a situation, hoping for an easy way out through gifts even if only subconsciously.
>>240564121Wanted to wait for bar prices to fall very low. But now that the trimmed set is like 200m, it's probably not even worth making for me now, opportunity-cost wise. Though I most likely still will for the hell of it, as doing stuff like that is amusing.
What should I do
>>240567981You're getting 90 Fletching at the DXP weekend, right? If not, you should.Right now, I suggest you go Mining.
>>240567845Yeah I could just buy a set but its not like afking the boring part at work really impacts me. I'd otherwise just be afking something else that's no profit.
>>240568229Or you could AFK something else that is profit. Maybe even something that gains both profit and xp. Though a lot of that is combat, and if you're on mobile that's probably a questionable idea.
>>240567981Buy broads to get a decent stock of them for getting 99 whenever you get around to it. GE limit is the largest issue for that.Do your caches if you don't like the Hall of Memories, at least until you can AFK ancestrals on the arc.Then mine with an augmented pickaxe; try and raise that invention level while doing new content before its prices crash to hell.
>>240569174I really wonder where prices will settle once time has passed. How Glorious Bars will compare to a piece Masterwork. From there we can figure out the gp/hr and really decide if it's worth it.
>>240570703Since most steps are tradeable and it only really requires 99 smithing, with WGS only required to make essences from boss dropped armours, most of it might end up botted to hell. Just a possibility for that. But chances are prices will crash regardless. Because people often expect AFK money at around 3m/h to be worth running alts for.Is there an achievement for making a masterwork set from scratch or base bars? There should be.
>>240571146I dont think so. Would be cool but not at this point since I alredy did my early steps. Got my 12 plates, time to curve em.
>>240571146after glorious bars, it’s only tradable when you finish itthere’s 7 steps in between that, and that’s what takes most of the time to finish it
>>240572290Oh, well yeah. That came out in the wrong order. What I meant to say is that most of the tradeable steps don't have any requirements besides 99 smithing. So any account with 99 smithing can do most of the work.Even after finishing the base masterwork, both of its essences and masterwork trim itself are tradeable. So the WGS req can be bypassed. Meaning alts can take care of it pretty easy.
>>240572760so basically, you could buy regular masterwork and the trims, trim it yourself and then sell for a bit of profitI understand that and it's a good pointthe problem is, who would dismantle torva/malev just to sell the essence or the trim?
>>240573281Or make most of the armour on an alt and trade it back to your main after making masterwork and finish it to trim there since it's not too long at that point. Like, the only non-trivial req to making it can be handled quite quickly on an account that can do it.Just buying complete masterwork and trimming it might not be very profitable because of that. Though if it is at all profitable, breaking down armours into ess would be too. But those would be kind of silly niche things to do.
>>240574376>make most of the armour on an alt and trade it back to your main after making masterwork and finish it to trim there since it's not too long at that pointbut what do you get from that?first of all, your alt needs 99 smithingsecond, buying all materials to trade to the alt will probably cost the same as buying the finished set from the GEthird, you would still need to make it yourself on the alt, all the ~30 hours of it (since you would be afking with the alt)there is no point in having an alt smith the armor itselfif you do have an alt and you want to use it to help you get a trimmed set, there's plenty of options to afk during those 30 hours to get some money, and then buy the finished set on the GE to just add the trim
>>240574946That's sort of what I was saying. Since it is doable on alts feasibly (ONLY 99 smithing really isn't much), it won't last as a decent money maker. Can't be more than 3m/h for long. So prices will settle quite low, and it will quickly become not worth it.
>>240575292ah, so I completely misunderstood your pointI thought you were saying people would be making alts just to make the armor while they play their mains
how the fuck do I make 5mil in a day with max stats
>>240575630A lot of people already have alts and just direct them to easy tasks. I doubt anyone will make any new accounts for it. But alt moneymaking certainly will be a basis for max profits available.For example, I remember just last year one guy was going on about how he ran 10+ alts at once doing something that only got 1m/h. Because all it took was ranged or something. That's the money making competition something like masterwork armour has to compete with. If it's any better than that people will crash it, with no survivors.Hell, countless people set up divination vacuum alts, and those took both 99 div and 107 invention. And now charges are fuckin' cheap. The same should happen to masterwork soon enough.
Realistically is there any reason to play this any further? I only log in for my daily keys now. I'm 120+ combat, but am retarded with combat. 250m in bank. What can I even do? All I do is fish. How long will RS3 last compared to OSRS?
>>240580103are you having a breakdown? don't play if you don't want to play, continue playing if you do.
>>240580103>Realistically is there any reason to play this any furtherRealistically, there is no reason to play any game at all.Hell, there is no reason to DO anything at all.You're supposed to use your time to do whatever you want to do. If you don't want to play this game, and play another game in it's place, then that's realistically what you should do.
>>240580103you can give me your cash
>>240580103Give me your money and I'll put it into some high risk investments. No guarantees that you'll ever get anything back.
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I'm in Prifddinas today. Why haven't you found me yet, anon?
>>240585038I never bothered to.
>>240585038because titles are to be disabled
Why am I enjoying the new mining & smithing? I haven't played for a couple years and was planning on canceling my subscription, but now I kind of want to play again.
>>240587795Because they actually made both skills enjoyable.
is it just me or did bonds drop
>>240588056>made both skills enjoyableMining, maybe. Smithing is a snoozefest. And the low xp rates of the lower tier stuff psychologically feels wrong.
>>240588249>Smithing is a snoozefestIf you want to afk and have your progress be halved, sure.If you actually manage your heat it becomes very fun.
>>240588249speak for yourself, it actually feels satisfying whenever I make a platebody now, compared to churning out batches of them with one click
>>240587795because for the first time ever, runescape has actual fucking gameplayyou're so used to it being a completely unabashed skinner box that any actual content in comparison is leagues better
Holy shit. Just tried my Trimmed Masterwork at Telos and that shit was a cakewalk. I practically AFK'd 200 enrage. Anyone try it at Kalphite King yet?
>>240593596please don't nerf itplease don't nerf itplease don't nerf it
>>240594839I'm going to tell Jagex that trimmed masterwork is too OP
>>240593596>wearing melee armor at a boss you're supposed to mage
>>240596118you're not "supposed" to kill it with magepeople mage it because mage is the strongest style in the gamenow, if a new melee armor makes melee better in this particular scenario, everyone will start melee and you'll say that you're "supposed" to melee it
>>240588247Yea because high alchemy values went down, not up. Players can't profit from buying ore and smelting bars to high alchemy anymore. This was a portion of the income for bond holders and thus, a portion of the bonds cost is now gone.Luckily enough, free to play players still need rune for trying to level smithing and for player versus player combat.
>>240599718but anon said bonds will be 100m at the end of the week
>>240599867I WAS WRONG OKAY!? I didn't realize Jagex actually did something right for once and lowered the reward for high alchemy on rune items. I thought I was just going to go in, get rune, high alch, and fuck everybody in free to play.
>>240599993>I didn't realize Jagex actually did something right for once and lowered the reward for high alchemy on rune items.literally everyone knew thatthat was why scrap became a thingwhy did you think people were calling you completely retarded
Who's on your guy's ignore list?>bartin>temmie>lath>pavel>every smiley
>>240601293It's empty because I don't interact with anyone ingame.
fuck seren spirits
I'm a nonmember. Where do I find mithril outside of the mining guild? Wildy? Al'Kharid doesn't have it anymore.
>>240606816f2p spots>south west of varrock>south east of varrock>dwarven mine resource dungeon (not explicitly listed as members but i'm not 100% sure)mithril is no longer found in the mining guildfor future reference to where to find this info, check the mining skillguide, click on the ore and that brings up all the locations
>>240607091Oh, all the guides were updated? Sorry, I hadn't expected people to be prepared for this so I just assumed I had to ask.
>>240607183none of the guides in the OP are updatedby skillguide i mean the menu that pops up when you click a skilli just realized don't actually know what it's officially called
we're all dead
>>240608273and yet we still live
>>240580103>How long will RS3 last compared to OSRS?osrs will die out before RS3.
>>240609020i can’t even tell what that’s supposed to be it just looks like a blob
>>240609020obviously tattooing something from runescape onto yourself isn't advisable, but that is far from the worst sort of tattoo you can get. it could have been a tattoo portrait on his stomach or something
>>240609020oh wait is that greglmao out of all of the possible edgy runescape related things to get permanently on yo he could have went with he went with the single worst onethat’s not even going to get him points with other runescape edgelords
>>240561209aren't easy clues ridiculous money in 2018 when you have eighty billion teleport options and every clue gets you a fortunate component for 600k?
>>240610479not every clue gives you a fortunate comp
>can't bank ceremonial sword plans>every single time you click the anvil it prompts you about themfuck off cunt not now i'm working on my shiny armor
>>240613824B-but muh swords
>>240614241they're good xp and completely braindead tier easy with alt-1 but there's no reason they should be so badgery
>>240615820You can alt1 them? How?
>>240616947an update added a bunch of small utility thingsit tells you what hits you should do and where, and a brief note on what order in the instructionsi've seen it change completely unrelated areas from hit to hit when it was low so think it actually adjusts it based on damage probabilities and hits remaining (though not perfectly)
>>240615174what's mine is yours
Do you think jagex will keep the trap in the Tirannwn anime mine?
>>240619491i hope they doit's a surprisingly good starting point for conversation
>>240582114>Hell, there is no reason to DO anything at all.But there is. Because doing nothing feels like absolute shit and leads to all sorts of mental issues. It may be unreasonable and absurd, but that's exactly what humans are.I really wish nihilism wasn't so incredibly convincing. Because it just doesn't work out well in almost any context, self destruction aside.
>>240588493>If you actually manage your heat it becomes very fun.Only if using the superheat item spell. Otherwise being interrupted every time you reup the heat is quite unsatisfying. Because it gives a negative feedback in that, for a short moment, your XP pauses whenever you interact. Which is sort of the opposite of fun.Using superheat item as often as fucking possible with the smithing skillcape is pretty neat though. No negative feedback there, only drastic speed improvement.
>>240620082That kind of response to stimulation, and my capability to both acknowledge and avoid it, make me feel alive. I'd rather not spend money or bother professionals about something non-debilitating, as that's a waste of time for all people involved.
>>240601293>ignoring smileyshaha what a loser
>>240601293My ignore list is empty. It's a rather flawed system. I'd rather work on the skill of simply not reading things that I don't like to that degree, regardless of who speaks them.Imagine others, people you normally like, talking to the people that you ignore, engaging them in the same ``degenerate'' discussion. Then you have to decide whether or not it's worthwhile to ignore them as well, or leave the chat entirely. Whereas if you can just skip over or tolerate such things then you can just manually ignore that section and get back to what you're doing in game.
>>240620431>That kind of response to stimulation, and my capability to both acknowledge and avoid it, make me feel aliveyou're supposed to feel alive at a lot lessthe fact that something so minor as not earning xp for a few seconds makes a difference at all in how much fun you have, says that your chemical capability to have fun is basically completely fuckedyou are biologically incapable of having fun, and what you think fun is, isn't actually what fun is
>QBD is now only 4m/hr according to the wikiwtf bros? how am I supposed to make money now
>>240620705There are countless different types of fun. I find interacting with systems and managing different types of feedback to be most incredibly exciting and pleasurable. Same with noticing the feedback and understanding exactly what I enjoy and why. Games like Runescape that feed that desire are glorious.That's far better than randomly feeling fun and not knowing why at all. Or interacting with systems strictly for progression without care of how that progression goes. That perspective alone would be incredibly boring, with it I would hate smithing just like the other guy.
>>240620710hold still invader
shiny fancy pretty armor
>and what you think fun is, isn't actually what fun isOh shit, someone on the internet is having fun WRONG.
Guardians of the World, take 2 - 75% this time.
>>240628216dont tell me what to do you're not my abuser
>>240628216Success!And guess who's waiting for me in port? That's right, the last trio! God, this feels great.>>240628305Are you the avatar of the RNG? I don't need to be nice to you anymore.
>>240629863If you think that just casting a spell is "serious effort", and that opting to avoid negative stimulation in favour of positive stimulation with no real downside is somehow wrong, then I think it's you that needs some help. Because that line of thinking actually is debilitating. Like, it'll lead to you avoiding positive things out of sheer laziness. And by golly that would suck hard.
page 9so addamant stone spirits are a garbage drop
Is autoretaliate disabled while mining now? Why? I don't want to have to go and right click this aggressive monster to attack it back.
>>240631847As are runite, gold, and coal. Much of the RDT's more common acceptable drops are now not just worth less, but actually worthless.
Due to stone spirit drops from bosses being pretty much absolute garbage due to them being, at best, rune spirits, how would you rather they balance these drops? Quality or quantity?
>>240633728It depends on the boss/monster.Nex dropping t80/90, QBD dropping t70/80, etc.I wouldn't expect to kill the mole and get Animica spirits.
>>240633728Quality. Before, runite was level 85 ore. Now they are level 50 spirits to get ore with. It's a drastic and obvious downgrade that in now way could possibly preserve value.If they replaced all boss rune stone spirit drops with animica stone spirits, it wouldn't be as good as before but certainly could have SOME value.Mob drops of coal should be split like steel platebodies were. With some still dropping coal spirits, but the higher things that matter like bosses dropping luminite, maybe in lesser amounts for the price difference.Leaving drops at roughly the same type of item while drastically crashing that item's level and value is completely absurd.
>>240633728What the 2 other posts said PLUS increasing the buy limit on the GE to 10k.The reason you can’t sell them there is because, by having a limit of 100, everyone that wants them hit their limit too fast so they can’t buy more.
>>240632579dunno how they thought downgrading ores to lvl 50 or below wouldn't hurt their value as "ore replacement" drops
>>240635995>they thoughtWhoa whoa now. That's an incredibly heavy assumption right there. I don't think they're really capable of that action.
>>240635389>a limit of 100WAT. I somehow did not notice that. Seriously what the fuck? Even for animica, the slowest ore to mine entirely, you're guaranteed to use at least 2-4x that not per 4 hours, but PER HOUR. 100 is abysmal.Why in the hell would they stifle demand fluidity that hard? That guarantees supply overruns any possible demand and crashes the price to the point people wouldn't even bother selling them at all.GE limits are supposed to prevent buyout manipulation (And do a shitty job at that due to whales having plenty of money for alts) not stifle trade itself in the first place.
>>240636412Exactly.That is why you cannot sell them. Because there’s no outflow of them from the ge, not because nobody buys it.
>>240588247bonds go up and down all the time
>at some point set my mouse to a dpi of 400 off of its normal of 1800>forgot about it>got used to it>started playing a lot of runescape again with the mining and smithing update>all of the wrist problems that runescape gave me years ago before i had a proper setup came backhelp
>>240638593go back to 1800
>>240638738how do i properly use a mouse again
>>240638593Why would you set its dpi so low at all, ever? You'd have to move the mouse almost 5 inches just to go from one side of a 1080p screen to another.It's not like you'd need that drastic space for per pixel accuracy. With a decent mouse and surface moving by individual pixels at 1800-3200dpi should be no problem whatsoever.Regardless, yeah, just set it back up high and get used to that again.More importantly, fix your posture and do some daily stretches. Even playing all day long every day should not cause wrist problems.
>>240638593>still using default limbs in 2018+1yall better not be doing this
TMW grind resumes.10/12 untempered plates. Got my 12 trim, leather, and 120 rivets. Hope I can finish today.
>>240639062wrist problems come from using a writing desk that arguably wasn’t even usable as a desk at all as a computer desk for yearsrunescape was the worst possible game for it and that was when i played it the heaviestmy posture now is fine, the problems are just permanent and come back at the drop of a hat
holy shit this new mining is perfect to play some pokemon at the side
i have sapphire golem head and torso, and ruby golem legs, i need emerald golem torso and legswho can help a brother out, come to w2 edgeville
>>240640403>i have sapphire golem head and torso, and ruby golem legs, i need emerald golem torso and legsI can't help with your in game problem as I've completed mine. But it would certainly be better to have your accidentally spoiled message more visible, so there.
>>240639830Oh shit untempered > masterwork piece is only 1k progress. I'm definitely getting this done today.
>>240640919Aw shit riveting doesn't take long either. Soon gamers.
>>240639830>can't make trim until i get my torva to level 14 from 0 and use an equipment seperator on itfuck you for getting nice things before me because of something i did to myself
>>240641931How long does masterwork take in total?
>>240642193between 15 to 25 hours, depending on if you have everything needed and if you're keeping your heat up or afking
>>240642193a long ass time
>>240642193It's taken awhile but I'm not really keeping track. An enriched > glorious bar is about 20 minutes, so that 12 times. The first few parts of each plate is 10-15 mins: so that a few times 12 times. You get the idea.I wouldn't be surprised if times were on the wiki.
>making regular masterwork armor doesn't have a proper animation
Was thinking about making a Magic and Def account just for shits and giggles.Only skills would be Magic, HP, Def, Prayer, Slayer and the stats for Invention.Anyone have any idea how going from 1 to 80 Smithing is now?
>>240643695presumably a breeze with the ore box and never ending ore rocks
>>240643782Didn't know mining was a req for invention.
>>240644076well i mean if you wanna buy 80 smithing more power to youi mean smithing is supposed to be profitable now so thats something
I'm all done resetera. We did it.
on a scale of i hate myself to i want to kill myself how long is getting armor to item level 14 going to take
>>240645895somewhere in between "I give up" and "why am I doing this"
>>240645895Just about twice as long as level 12, item XP doubles every two levels.It's not so bad.
rip aggro pots
>>240646481I mean... where are you using aggro pots where you need TMW? Just hang in to a Nex set for abbies.
>>240644207>smithing is supposed to be profitable now so thats somethingMining the ores, then making bars is.Pretty much every single other thing isn't.
>>240646849it's not about needing TMWif it doesn't degrade, why not kill abby demons with it?obviously now I know not to, until they fix it never, probably
>>240646481there’s so so so so many problems with what he’s saying implies i don’t even know where to starti knew the runescape codebase was bad but holy fuck i didn’t know it was that bad
>>240646953>Mine your own ore which means you're not losing money buying productWell yeah that's always been profit?
>>240647004Theres a ton of legacy code used all over the place. RS has a ton of tech debt and something like this is major engine work. So LOL because mobile has had the engine team hostage for years.
>>240647057I think you've missed the point.
>>240647198the stuff he’s implying is worse than legacy enterprise codebase tier stuff thoughhow the fuck does runescape even manage to work at alldidn’t they redo the degradation system recentlywhy can’t they just add a seperate new check instead of relying on the retarded one that results in data races
>>240647630because that isn't on the degradation system, it's on the slayer target systemthe degradation code says "don't use charges when taking hits from your slayer task"but the slayer code says "your slayer target is abyssal demon #1"if you use aggro pots, and then abyssal demons #1 through #7 are hitting you, there's nothing the degradation code can do
>>240647630>how the fuck does runescape even manage to work at allRuneScape is a marvel and I want an objective documentary on the game (not on Jagex) and how it works and has evolved.
>>240647878that’s why i said change the not-legacy-and-therefore-easier-to-change new degradation system to make its own checks that don’t rely on the slayer target system
>>240648464I bet you think making large changes to code is as easy as copy and pasting
>>240648464oh yeah, that's what they're probably try to dohowever, not everybody on their team know how to change those engine stuff, so they'll have to either wait for mobile to get out and these people be free, or try to put someone that has no idea how to do it, which could cause even worse problems
>>240649027what's with that wall, specifically?why does it always break?
>Completely rework a skill from the ground up>Alaea Crablets are still the best xp in the gamelol
>>240649218that was intended
>>240649142falador north wall shortcutdunno>>240649218as intended
>>240645895About 4 hours from level 1. 10 takes roughly 1 hour, 12 takes roughly 2 hours.Could be faster or slower depending on your damage output and target.
>>240648691I’m currently in the process of putting off exactly that to the vulkan renderer I’ve written, faggot. That’s just irritating. I can only imagine the hell they go through every day.The degradation system is new. They had to have changed it in the first place to add the code which depends on the legacy shit that has a data race.At most, making a new check only requires accessing three values, some of which have some potential to be cached in some way or avoided entirely
>>240649537you say that based on the knowledge of whatever code language you usewe don't know runescriptcould be 3 values, could be 500
>>240649836I hope it’s not 500 because then the EoC would have upped their server performance needs significantly
>>240650335it was just an hyperbole examplethe point still stands though
>>240646481How is "if mob equals slayer task then armor takes no damage from mob" hard to do?
>>240650420point taken, i forgot runescript was a thingi wonder how many bugs are caused by the runescript compiler/interpreter itself
>>240650493it was literally just explained a few posts ago
>>240650493the game doesn't take all abyssal demons as your targets, the game picks only one of them (the one you're attacking) since you can only have one target at a timethe degradation works based on your targetthe abyssal demons you're not attacking are not your slayer target
>Regular Masterwork armor can be repaired with cash like normal >2.4m for the whole set to repair >Trimmed Masterwork requires using pieces of normal masterwork to repair that seems like it could get crazy expensive to maintain
>>240651049>augment>chargepackonly have to replate the foots hands and head
>>240651049it will be the around the same cost to maintain malevolent, pretty muchif you custom-fit it, even less than that
>>240651049Is the malev a one-time thing or is it needed for repairs
>>240651260you only use torva/malev essence to trim it oncethe regular masterwork you use to repair trimmed doesn't need the essence
who gives a fuck about trimmed masterwork>unironically using melee
>>240652621the set effect
>>240651367>read up on it>need tons of malev for the trimguess I'm never getting it
>>240652742not tons, you need 12 essence, which is 6 helms, or 2 platebodies
>>240652879that's a lot of kills
>>240653067oh you're ironmanyeah you're fucked
>>240653067Are you an ironman?
>>240652621>Get hit for 15k while maging>Die>Get hit for 15k while ranging>Die>Get hit for 15k in TMW>Actually get hit for 7.5k, then take 7.5k over the next 6 seconds>Out heal and don't dieGee i wonder why.
>>240653285there's this thing called barricade that makes you get hit for 0 instead of 15k or 7.5k and it's free to useyou should try it sometime
>>240653397Tell that to KK.
how do you outheal 7.5k damage in 6 seconds with 2500 health
>>240653593you use these things called "food" from your inventory
>>240653593Spam your brew, fish, and optionally jellyfish hotkeys.
Masterwork completed. Now I'm gonna wait a few more days to see what's gonna be decided about the custom-fit non-degrading issues to see if I dismantle my Torva or keep it.
How can I make gp with this setup???
>>240650725>the game picks only one of them (the one you're attacking) since you can only have one target at a timeBut that's demonstrably false, as killing several of the same mob at once both gives damage/accuracy boost from slayer helm AND rewards slayer XP.It's only their detection for degrading that is being delayed. Nothing else is showing symptoms of this at all.Thus it's more likely that the guy who coded the new armour's limited degrading functionality is throwing Jack on a wild goose chase over an issue he failed to handle properly.
>>240656490damage/accuracy boost is against the whole species of your slayer taskthe armor was specifically coded that only your TARGET doesn't make it lose chargesthese are 2 completely different mechanics that shouldn't be different
>>240655183obligatory sell the gear for instant £$€
>>240656842>the armor was specifically coded that only your TARGET doesn't make it lose chargesI was going to say that's an absurd way of doing thing but yeah, they are indeed two different mechanics that shouldn't be different.Checking only if the target is a task to prevent degrading when hit is FUCKING STUPID. Checking what is hitting the player, and just discounting the task mobs at that point, is what I'd consider common. That way you can make it still degrade for things besides the task attacking the player, even while a task mob is attacking as well. Because that makes sense.Although if that is how it works, then that means it'll degrade far less for me than the average AFKer. As I immediately click new targets as previous ones die rather than waiting on autoretaliate, since that's slow as molasses.Also, someone in game just said that someone on plebbit suggested a short timer buff, so that attacking a slayer/reaper target would set a NO-DEG timer for like 10 seconds and rebuff during. So that it would still provide almost constant NO-DEG even with this stupid way of doing things.I would be fine with that, I guess.
>>240657541yeah, they'll probably end up doing one of those thingsor not, idk
>>240657541>so that attacking a slayer/reaper target would set a NO-DEG timer for like 10 seconds and rebuff duringThat would cover the minion problem as well, preventing nech's and glacor's little bitches from degrading things for up to 10 seconds after the last hit against the base mob.Though I personally believe minions SHOULD degrade it. As they're not the actual task monster. Well, whatever.
>>240658553I think the problem with minions is at bossesaraxxor spiders, gwd1 generals, helwyr wolves, and many others
>>240658770Well it would solve that too, for about 10 seconds or however long the timer would be after attacking the main boss.
>>240659197I was talking about what you said that minions should degrade itthe armor is said to not degrade during boss fights for reaper tasksdealing with araxxor spiders are part of the boss fight, you need to deal with them to kill the bosssame thing with BM pets, they're part of the BM fight, not something unrelated that just happens to be there attacking you
>>240655183Spiderman, ED2, Nex.
Is there a figure on bxp from treasure hunter? how much would it cost to get 1m bxp?
>>240660848impossible to know for sure
How should the Spring Cleaner be set up now? I just logged in for the first time since the rework and I want to slay.
>>240655183Suck dick at GE
>>240661345alch rune/large and huge addydisassemble everything else since it doesn't use springs
>>240660848kys for even considering that.
>>240661681What does disassembling garbage do now? Like, actually disassemble for components or does it just remove the drop?
To someone that has the mobile beta, how much storage does it take on your phone?
Are dwarven ramhammers useful in any way?
@weht (and anyone else who wants to know ores for trim memework)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA3ZhD_WXWRbRZSInufZkyAVZZRMZzKMI-w18bfajiQ/edit?usp=sharing
>STILL no endgame money making methods outside of PvM
>>240667627go mine some dark animica~2m/h
>>2406681732mil an hour is a fucking JOKE in 2019
>>240668423it's low effort, what did you expect
>Worldhopping to find a world where nobody is at Morytania abyssal demons>Every world I've checked has a dumb bimbo female avatar with animal ears fighting themIt doesn't even feel like I'm changing worlds, all these avatars look the same apart from different combat styles
>>240667627What do you expect? Nothing else has any risk, attention span, skill, or strategy requirement whatsoever. Obviously they can't stay high profit at all.How would you make something non-combat require any of that?Extreme random chance could provide risk but that's retarded gambling at best.People would bitch to high hell about skilling that requires attention span, skill, or strategy.I just can't really see anything like that working.
>>240596118>supposed toget a load of this sheeple
I play as a female character and i'm a chubby guy irl
>>240670229Classic.But the real question is... Do you piss in bottles?
>>240670229that makes you the gay
page 9the callas on my right heel is all fucked upi feel bad for people in silverhawks
What would be the best price to buy Elder Rune Platebody +4? If you make them into +5 and then bury them its for a combined 160k xp. I know they are crashing hard so I want them for super cheap
>>240491005you still around? Ill buy some sets from you. Username is Dwl is sick
>>240668225>He thinks he's close to finished
post your outfits
>>240680003I thought that was newer.RIP Comp
I haven't tested them because I can't be bothered, but I read somewhere that gem rocks are one inv an hour? LOL. You get more than 28 geodes an hour doing like animica, which give you gems while you mine that shit.
>>240681562Great googly god, that's some gorgeous gorgonite.
>>240682084best looking armor in the game imoexcept the helmets, I hate dung helmets
>>240628419My last voyage came in, by the way.I'm done with Eastern Adventurer! The cash from selling off my trade goods was a nice cherry on top.I'm not quite done with ports, as I'm still missing all of the Whaler's clue voyages (somehow he's never had ANY) and three more eastern scrolls (all the worthless skilling ones). In truth I only really care about the Master Quest Cape requirement, so these last ones will be done passively. I've already built jade statues and such to make money from trade goods, but if I get a scoll voyage here and there I'll do it.
>>240684484Congratulations gamer. PoP is some really good content
>>240684484that sounds great, gz anon
whoa. torva is selling for serious gps right now
SOMEONE DUO NEX WITH ME
>>240685014just solo it bro
>>240684972don't forget to nab the reinforced plates from bandit shopgood profit due to malev essence
>>240685014Nex duo is fuckin' fun. Are you maxed? How many kills per hour can you do?
fuck I'm a brainlet
>need to make 13mil in a weeki'm so fucked
>>240688060How many oddments did you spend?Do you have anything else you would rather have spent them on? If not, no big deal.
>>240688662he probably spent his tendie bucks on it. or maybe goodboy points.
>>240688662idk know many, a lot of themand not really anything else for me to get
>>240688781no keys bought, but lots of daily challenge keys saved for promos and some oddments also used to get keys on specific promos like smouldering and those stars that give 2x bxp
>>240688952i usually dump mine on dungeoneering, since i never train it and trade them in for actually useful things with nic/vic
>>240689254yeah I used to do thatbut then I decided to go for 120 slayer, so why not
>>240689383its now the fastest and easiest skill to get to 120
>>240688060how do I cope
>>240690703I need more than your total slayer xp to get to 120does that motivate you? probably not
>>240691524The new best reward is coal stone spirits. I got 900 of those and can't even sell them at 1gp each. A reward that used to get you 150k now gets you nothing.
>>240690703>>240688060>needing slayer xp in 2019
>>240688623if you do two farm runs a day that's100k per patch x5 for Kuarms plus 300k for bloodweed in the wildythen you get 9 morchellas in two patches for 3k each for another 50k or 80k for 2x6 bittercapsrun feathers, runes and arrow tips for another mil or two you can easily get over twice that amount per week with levels under 60 and one hour a day
>>240691914what the fuck were they thinking with the ge exchange limits on those things
>>240693691>what the fuck were they thinkingThe problem is that they weren't. >>240636091
>>240694324they definitely werethis isn't just retarded this is full retardthey had to have done this on purpose for some really really stupid reason
how the FR*CK does any1 make money if they cant do telos
>>240696768all the other bosses
whut da hell???
>>240696768elite dungeons, nex, merchenting, slayer, skilling etc
>>240696768dunno about you, but I make billions from merchingnot to mention it doesn't rely on bullshit RNG :^)
>>240697129Teach me to merch, senpai. I have 2b in cash I can start with.
>>240697985buy bonds in December and sell them in march
>>240698868What are those?
>>240698915a shitty cosmetic. you disassemble them for fortunates
>>240688060no biggie, you only got a little more than you needed and you will probably slay a little after 120 anywho.
>>240701350I got almost DOUBLE what I needed, anonI just hope vic has some decent stuff next time he appears
>>240701432nic has better stuff. aura and life refreshes are the only things worth getting bonus xp for.
>>240701638I don't really pvm, thoughthat was the main reason to put bxp into slayer
I recently did While Guthix Sleeps and The Light Within quest and I dont understand the gripe about them being hard theyre just tedious
>>240704161noone ever said they're hard
>>240684972>want to sell torva>but don't want to destroy my biting 3 + other perksm-maybe I'll reach level 15 before the price drops
10 again and again.
>>240708284what if we didn't have an rsg thread any morewould we finally be free?
>>240705052>not making it into a set of trimmed masterwork
>>240709558There's always RSOF.
>>240709903that’s worse than reddit
>>240710315gotta start somewhere.
>>240696768gargoyim are 6m/hr rn
Fine, I'll bump the thread. Hurry up and get here Eurofags.
>>240705052pro-tip. add 5 manifest shadows to your small slayer dungeon room and afk them. you get loads of elite clues and some pretty fast item xp.
You feel the warmth of the bonfire leaving you. Your maximum health is no longer boosted.
I'm really liking this new mining.
this update has made me realize how much of the gp per hour from bosses came from mining and smithing related drops
>finally trimming my masterworki can't wait
>>240720843it degrades on tasks and there is a bug that makes it so that you cant custom fit augmented masterwork sometimes, and augment custom fit other times. in other worse, it's a buggy mess at the moment.
>>240720843Congrats. Don't forget to augment it before custom-fitting.
>>240721010i know about the first and the third bug, but literally nowhere mentions the second>>240721061i'm pretty sure the bug is actually caused by wearing it before augmenting it but yea i know
>>240721332saw some people on the forums complaining about it
>>240721486do you have a source that isn't mentally retarded
>>240721708the type of people who use the forums are the kind of people who wouldn't trim a full set, wouldn't wear it, and wouldn't actually talk to the guy you need to talk to to have it custom fitted and wonder why it doesn't workhowever i just noticed somethingthe wiki articles say it uses charges from the universal charge pack when it doesn't it uses charges stored in the item, and when it runs out you need to use a regular masterwork on itthat's depressing and blatent misinfo
woo finally a codex drop
is there a better fc than grindanfc out there that won't give me as much cancer?pls help
Nex is my wife.
>>240723065back the fuck off.
i did iti don't feel as happy about having done it now that i know the wiki page is mostly wrongi'm going to make two more fucking sets of regular masterwork, one as an actual usable armor set that doesn't use retarded degrade mechanics, and one as a repair set for this shiti can't believe no one called out those wiki bastardsso fucking lazy
>>240723637woo nice. good thinking on making a second set of regular masterwork. that's what i did. no more D2D malevolent or 45m steadfasts
I dont think I like crondis very much
>>240723816i don't plan on starting now of coursetoo fucking mad at the wikithey knew that the articles were fucked days ago but still haven't bothered properly fixing it
>>240724573wait what's wrong with it gamer
>>240724772when the update released, both augmented trimmed masterwork pages said in both the blurb at the top and the section on degredation and repair that it used charges from the universal charge packit does not, and when its internal battery runs out you have to repair it the same way as unaugmented trimmed masterwork woth the addition of divine chargesthe degredation and repair sections were corrected on the 9th apparentlyThe blurb on the top, i.e. the first thing you see, was not corrected, and hasn’t been.and the cherry on top of the shit sundae is that they got the wrong dwarfelof is the one who custom fits armor, the pages all say suak
>>240725326all that autism for nothing :^(is it worth upgrading from my torva set then?
>>240725398the defensive buff of the armor is really quite good and once they hopefully fix custom fitting’s slayer thing, degredation isn’t going to be as much of an issueso I’d say yes but i would also bang out a set of regular masterwork to use as cheaply repairable backup armoroptionally also make another one just for the purpose of having repairs for the trimmed set on hand
>>240725398regular masterwork uses charges from the charge pack, so yeah id say make a set of that. or both trimmed and regular.
>>240725808>once they hopefully fix custom fitting’s slayer thing, degredation isn’t going to be as much of an issueI think the jmod response was posted higher up itt, it requires a rework of the game engine to better detect how slayer monsters are defined with regards to "on-task" for degradation purposes aka never ever
>>240725964That’s not what he said at allHe said their implementation for the slayer thing might be fixable, and that the fix for boss and slayer monster minions would be nearly impossible due to too much effort and the fact that it’s technically not a bug
>>240726061>technically not a bugGUYS THIS SICK NEW SET OF ARMOUR THAT TAKES 36 HOURS TO MAKE DOESN'T DEGRADE ON TASKSokay it does and it isn't a bug and we aren't fixing it.
>>240726237there’s more than one bug with degradation you idiot, this is jagex we’re talking aboutone of them deals with slayer tasksThat’s the bad one that will actually seriously hurt degradation rates and the one that can be hopefully fixed.The second bug is that the minions of repear assigned bosses and slayer creatures (think glacytes) can degrade to be able to degrade the armor.That one is not as relevant and technically not a bug because you aren’t asigned a boss/slayer monster’s minions to kill.That requires redoing how slayer as a whole and all bossfights work and isn’t worth the effort.
>>240726061except how I'm reading his statements he clearly says it's not just minions but also groups (hell even 1v1 slayer) that degrades the armourso as it stands now it's a broken design even if it takes 10,000 hours to degrade fully instead of 100
>>240726485>isn’t worth the effort.GUYS THIS SICK NEW SET OF ARMOUR THAT TAKES 36 HOURS TO MAKE AND DOESN'T DEGRADE ON TASKS IS RIDDLED WITH BUGS WE AREN'T GOING TO FIX AND WEREN'T PREPARED FOR BUT ARE STILL GOING TO ADVERTISE IT AS WORKING
>>240726539>>240726626againTwo bugsOne screenshotSlayer task degradation is one bugMonster Minion degradation is anotherCompletely separate in how they work and why.Calm the fuck down and actually read itSlayer task degradation is the very bad bug that will hurt your armor.It is the bug caused by legacy code with a data race.It is the bug that causes groups and 1v1 slayer to degrade your armor.It is also apparently a fixable bug.It is the first half of what he’s talking about.Minion minion degradation is the second half of the image, and the second bug.Minion-caused degradation is quite honestly irrelevant for slayer, very few slayer monsters even have minions and none of them are going to be doing much in the way of hits.Because this isn’t a big - minions aren’t supposed to count towards slayer and boss kills obviously - it’s harder to fix. It’s two pieces of code doing what they should do. It’s just that what they should do is bad.This requires a complete remake of slayer and bossing behind the scenes.For the amount of slayer monsters worth doing that actually have minions, there is no pragmatic sense in actually resolving the issue.Literally the only monsters that i can think of that triggers it is glacors and nechryaels
>started playing recently after not having played since 2006 or some shit>as of a week ago, I haven't had more than a couple million gold ever>smithing gold bars is like 300k/hr>will never have the money to buy dragon rider lance>decide to start making decorated mining urns for money, pretty decent>out of fucking nowhere there's an update to mining>now everybody wants my urns>selling them for 5k each>wind up with 44m gold>realize I am rich beyond my wildest dreams and can buy literally anything I want>look up how much it's going to cost to train prayer and herblore to 92 and 96 so that I can finally start fighting monstershold me
>>240727046reaper exists and many bosses have minions. telos for example, 6 100+% telos degraded my armour by .2% i imagine gwd 1 bosses would eviscerate your armour.
>>240727151>wind up with 44m gold>realize I am rich beyond my wildest dreams and can buy literally anything I wantI chuckled.>>240722636this guy just made 160m in 1 drop
>>240727046>slayer bug is fixablebig if desu
Anyone have the files for the mobile beta on hand?
>>240727551“I think the implementation is a bit wrong, and I’ll see what we can do” - Mod jackInterestingly, I can only think of one very old thing, well one group of things, in the game that would use a system like he described.My guess is that the bug is with part of the system slayer helms and their parts use for damage and accuracy buffs, which is why it’s based on a singular “target”Can’t think of anything else ancient as shit that it could beIt would also explain why there’s a data race, because it’s a check for offensive buffs and not defensive buffs it naturally doesn’t do its calculations until you attack.I would hope slayer helms aren’t actually a critical part of game logic
>>240728032given how old all this stuff is it might very well be the caseI'll hold off on taking apart my torva for parts until a clear conclusion has been made on it
>>240728032they had to know the armour degradation didn't work properly before they released it
>>240728369maybe it's another case of jagex quality like with the bank rework>yep it's possible we're so hyped for this4 months later>yep still possible we're gonna do the best for you players1 year later>sorry lol we realized it was impossible about a month in we just didn't mention it until now
>>240728369I doubt it, this style of bug is really not something anyone but their engine/server guys would have thought to test for.
First time logging in for ages. What is the go with upgraded pickaxes? Spoonfeed me
>>240729243>equip armour>fight teloshmm the armour degraded>equip armour>do a couple slayer taskshmm the armour degradedliterally all it took was 1 fight against telos to find out the armour degraded. that means they didn't even bother QA testing it
>>240729334better pickaxe = better miningyou need a pickaxe of the same tier to mine a rock without a penalty
>>240729640I was talking about software testing, stop believing that jagex has QA, they don’t
BrosRune or BaneWhich makes more money?
>>240730971B A N E is more per ore but slower (good thing I had a stack for 12k ores banked before rework), but rune is way faster.I'm surprised luminite isn't up there with rune prices, as you need it to smelt the crap.
>>240731753I got 112 Bane Bars but they aren't sellingThey are worth 3m
>>240732672If they are not currently selling for a price then the market does not believe they are currently worth that price.Either drop the price till it sells or set up a price that you believe will sell non-instantly and wait.Or hell, for an item so cheap it's generally fine just to test both instants yourself for a slight loss. Here, I even did that for you.
>>240698868yo anon i herd u liek box so we put box in your box
>>240732941It sold for 1.12MShould have known the 3m was too good to be true
>>240733369Yeah, that's usually the case. GE prices are rarely ever accurate, especially around new updates.
good morning /rsg/how’s the mining and smithing in this lovely saturday going?
>>240738717still doing dailyscape so the only mining ive gotten done is red sandstoneand maybe the 50 free coal from modified smithing hat if that counts
>>240738717I don't know but ELDER LOGS ARE GOING DOWN IN PRICE AND NO ONE'S BUYING
>>240738717>>240739065addendum: just found some kind of stealth dung room for the first time
>>240739253oh those suckI just always kill everyone and then get the key
>>240738717I'm still riding the Sinkhole high from when I got that team Meerkats card. Getting 500k XP per day is so nice, and I've still got 25 in the bank. They'll probably last me all the way to 117 or something ridiculous like that.
>>240740079that's the Chad way of doing it
>>240742123gotta improve that now
How long does 90>99 invention take?
>>240746486several months if like me you dont train it>>240742123pic is old and still completely accurate although now im maxed and have better than t70s so i can probably knock the time down by maybe half or at least a third
>(You)meant for >>240746374
why so dead today?
>>240752067its not that dead, its usually quiet on weekends here
>>240755682yeah i blame gym anon and his gym going other anon who isnt gym anon
>>240756160does gym anon only go to gym on saturdays?that's kind of odd
>>240756590on weekends iirche does come back to bump later in the day though
Should I spend my money in the next DXP on 99 summ and Prayer or should I save money for 90 weapons?
>>240757538get summoning, prayer doesn't work unless you want to do cleansing stones
>>240757538There's no shame in stopping at 96 Summoning/95 Prayer and saving the rest.What weapons do you have now? Do you boss or do Slayer? The answer depends strongly on these factors.
>>240757538Depends on your playstyle and which would help you more.Weapons first if going to boss. Then 95 prayer before 96-99 summoning.92 prayer first if going to vyre for some stats and money. Summoning and weapons don't matter there at all.If just slaying t90 weapons aren't going to make or break many tasks compared to the drastically cheaper t87 or t85 options. But 95 prayer would for both soulsplit and turmoil tier prays to free up the neck slot from zealots where relevant.There are certainly other factors but I'd consider these first.But like the other guy said, prayer doesn't benefit much from DXP unless you're strictly AFKing it at hefin like a fag. So there's no sense in waiting for DXP for that at least.
I completed a Mithril dragon task before leaving the house, and now as I come back I go to sell my loot.Then I find out that what I thought was a dragon med from the RDT is actually a dragon full!
Do you remember to tell Morvran or your other slayer master "Okay, great!" When you like your assignment?
>>240760038I wonder if they keep statistics for that.
What are quests that are actually fun to do? I just did Toktz Ket Dil and I wanted to kill myself halfway through.
>>240761818Salt in the wound
>>240761818yampvre quests are fun for loregameplay wiseits been too long for me to remember maybe some of the pirate quests?
>she isn't either crafting her own trimmed masterwork armour or already in possession of a set right nowembarrassing
>>240762584who?im still just making my +5 set to unlock mastertwerk
>tfw got burned out from the reworktime to take a break
>>240762584>she isn't an ironwoman
>>240757921I have a Lance for Melee but only a sunspear for both Magic and Range And I already have 95 prayer
>>240758309Aren't Dragon Bones on wilderness altar nowadays the same as prif stones on DXP xp/gp now that Dragon bones are now only 1660 ea?
kingdom of hearths
>>240767221>the weak should fear the strong
>>240772953>>lummyNo one says that.
>>240772402Is this Menaphos?
>>240775992Looks like the gnome colony in the Arc, I forget what the name of the island is. Tuai Lei?
>>240775992>>240776386tuai leittoo late
>>240776729more like Twilight, some MLP reference by Mod Horsefucker
I heard all the armors got redesigned. Is there an album of it anywhere?
>>240765345OFF of DXP dragon bones would be about 5gp/xp or so on either wildy or gilded altars.ON DXP it might still be incredibly shitty by having the DXP completely override the altar boost, making them actually less XP than normal there.OFF of DXP hefin prayer is like 9-10gp/xp depending on vos or whatever.ON it's half that.Not sure which is actually faster though. I haven't done but vyres for prayer in ages.
new bread whennobody wants to post in a stale bread
>>24078209719 posts early for that
1-9 decides what shit skill I have to work on next.
>>240785304its bedtime>735dont forget to new ded
>can now make more money afking in my personal slayer dungeon than actively doing QBDbased
>>240758824grats anon. i remember i got one like 10 years ago from them. shit was cash. literally. it was worth 60m back then.
>>240789271Are you factoring in spring cost or if not using cleaner are you factoring in time spent alching
>>240788832found the old screenshot
>>240789404not him, but springs are like 1k eachsmall adamant salvages alch for 4k
>>240789404not him but my money pit is spirit magesand all costs inclusive it can be afk'd for 5m/h
>>2407894861 adamant drop every 4 killsonly critter i know that shits out that much addy is abyssals and you get more spawns in kuradels than the menaphos dungeon
>>240789572picking up super pots is a pain in the ass even with p2w pet thoughanyone know if the rs3 mobile beta is account bound (with a key etc) or did they just not publicly release the apk?
>>240789572my money pits are bosses, elite dungeons and clue scrolls. all of which net 10+m per hour. also merching which is afk and takes a few minutes a day for a few mil per day minimum
>>240789836>1 adamant drop every 4 killswell if it doesn't drop anything dismantable on the other 3 kills, it won't use a springso what's your point?
>>240789941b-but they dont drop super pots>>240789991cant afk clues or ED though, we were trying to figure out what anon has in his player owned dungeon thats more profitable than qbd
>>240789486>but springs are like 1k eachIn what universe are they 1k each?
>>240789941they just didn't realease the apk publicallybut you can find it if you know where to look>>240790323the universe where you make them with invention instead of buying from the GE
>>240790209for the best overall profit per hour, manifest shadow creatures are the best monster to afk for profit in your slayer dungeon since they drop anywhere from 5-12 elite clues per hour.
>>240790209i didn't read and thought u said spiritual warriors. guess i have to make a mage rape arena instead.
>>240790607well i mean warriors are roughly the same profit wise and you could use area loot for the supers since melee mobs have to come to you