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MINING AND SMITHING REWORK IS UP

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HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT THE MINING AND SMITHING REWORK?

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folding bars is suffering
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They're masterworks, all. You can't go wrong!
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>need to do all varrock and new varrock tasks for smithing

how do you guys do it?
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I just realized oddments are directly tradeable to lamps
I have thousands of them
no worries getting my combat skills up now
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>>240464815
doing it
it's really simple, really
and you don't need it for smithing, the mining benefits are a lot better
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Why can't we make skirts out of the new metals?
Or maces?
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>>240464815
the varrock tasks aren't really that bad
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>>240465295
>skirts
because even women wore platelegs back in the day
plateskirts are a really stupid idea
>maces
CLERICS OUT
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>>240465606
That Drakolith 2 Handed Hammer though.
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>>240465712
warhammers are the true warrior weapon
mace faggot can burn in hell
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What I wanted to just buy masterwork trimmed. How much would that run me?
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>>240466304
buy the finished set? some folks saying ~250m at the moment
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>>240466304
bout tree fiddy
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page mine
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page slime
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Is there any reason to NOT smith at the workshop?
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8 glorious bars done
4 left
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bane has crashed my master plans with no survivors
i really don't want to go mine 1200 of the stuff
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>>240468941
It doesn't take too long.
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>>240468941
Your money and infrastructure has been important, until now.
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>>240468667
I did a few hundred corrupt ore at the workshop and I CANT GET ANY RESPECT
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>>240469510
it doesn't look like you get respect for smelting, only smithing
i've done a few thousand rune bars by now for 10xp each and my respect has stayed at 32%
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>>240469510
you get it from smithing not smelting
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>>240469772
you get 1% per 10k experience, so 1k bars at 10xp each should have brought you to 33%
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>>240468941
I'm already done with bane but I still need the orikalkum and necronium stuff
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>>240469909
oh ok disregard >>240469947 then
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mine
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>>240471706
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z9rCMjEmfY
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Come bear witness
W14 at 00:00 game time
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>>240472623
where
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>>240472854
oh GE
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>>240474102
will be there
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>>240472623
How long did this take?
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i really hate the graphic they went with for the rockerpotunity
i strongly suspect the artists who did the ores and the artists who did the particles didn't talk to each other at all, considering how many ore models almost completely hide the particle effect
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Got my 12 immaculate bars, time to make full Elder Runite +5.
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>>240472623
Attention:
All Runeman Gamers
I am in great Danger and I need your help to MAX and start the real game
but to do this I'm going to need
>audience
to help me all I need is your [spoilers]IP, bank pin and account password[/spoilers] but you gotta be quick so that I can secure the funds to become an EPIC PVMlet
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>>240474883
I'm incredibly lazy so like 13 years
but I quit for a few of those
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>>240474973
you can barely see it on one of the bane rocks
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>>240475384
IP: 192.168.15.1
bank PIN: 9753
password: slayer18042013
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>>240475384
My bank pin is tied to my authenticator, so you'll have to let me know when you need it, okay?
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>>240474102
south side?
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>>240476426
ye
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>>240476512
Ok, I'll be waiting. Right now there are some mercher fags there whining about how the m&s updates sucks so much.
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Once I finish my Masterwork set I’ll fonally be able to get more than 4 kills per trip I was get at twin furies with Bantoast armor
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>>240475553
*swooshes ambiguously*
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>>240476627
>>240476512
there's so many people here, where are you guys?
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>>240477439
>Not using the Jaitzo mine with the guy who notes your ores
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>>240477624
>>240474883
>>240475384
>>240472623
>>240472854
changed to w42 GE
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>>240475384
Sent ;)
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>>240477637
>Jaitzo mine has banite
i hadn't heard about this
the floor is fucking dark
it actually has visual contrast

you don't know how much you've done for me, thank you
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>>240477942
You gotta have the elite fremnik tasks done to access it though
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>>240478203
no worries, i got the fancy shoes years ago
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>>240472623
@@@@@@@@@
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>Imcando Pickaxe and Gold Mining Suit are now fast as fuck to get

God damn zoomers these days will never know the suffering of going for hours waiting for the Nymph to spawn
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>>240475384
gz anon, don't forget the banners
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nice
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Back in my day, the mining guild only had coal and mithril. We also had to fight over rocks
AND WE LOVED IT.
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>>240480412
>we
no we didn't
it was shit
you needed level 60 mining to get in and it was shit
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I went from nothing to imcando pick in about 3 hours
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>>240480615
Stop ruining his nostalgia. If he wants to pretend thats how it was and try to talk shit like he's some old timer, for clout, then that's his business.
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>>240480939
good
I don't wish being stuck there for 26 hours for anyone
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>>240481021
fuck him and his nostalgia
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Have there been any new quests in the gods line since Sliske's Endgame? What're Seren and Zaros up to these days? haven't been subbed in a few years but I enjoyed the story
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>>240481746
nope
big drought of quest content in 2018
actually content in general, last year was mostly patch weeks
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what auras should I buy? already have berserker
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>>240482671
Do you have maniacal and reckless?
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>>240483079
no
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>>240483185
Then get those.
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>>240483257
what else would you recommend?
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I swear having higher rep in gwd2 fucks with your drops. At 0 greg rep I was getting minimum 300k a drop. Now at 50% increased drops, I've gotten 40k six times.
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The price of lum is going to tank, just fyi for those of you who think it's a good idea to horde it. In fact the price of all ores will tank to the high alch value before it will be stuck in a state of being used for high alch due to abundance.

The price of nature runes is going to start going up.

The price of bonds are going to go up way beyond 20 mil. I suspect approximately 50-100 mil by the end of the week.
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>>240484019
>bonds up to 50-100m
I understand the others but wtf?
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>>240484178
never take economic advice from /rsg/
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>>240484178
since this fucking retard here >>240484336 had to say something, let me explain it to you. The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the game. Bonds raise in value when the game becomes less popular, but, also when high alchemy makes more money, as it does now. Because it's now piss easy to get rune bars and high alchemy the hell out of them, free to play players are going to be buying the hell out of them which will increase the value.
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>>240484019
The ores should retain a bit if value over their high alch considering theyre all required for Masterwork.
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>>240484564
>The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the game
this is probably the stupidest shit I've heard today
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>>240484564
yea okay mr goyim
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>>240484771
this right here is what we call an "ass hurt" man child that is losing gold from the update. Notice how they can't defend their statement with an explanation. By telling people bullshit and trying to get people to buy it, they project how they wish to save their precious gold coins when in reality, they're just a shill.
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>>240484957
this is probably the stupidest projection I've heard today
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>>240484832
>>240485138
>>240484771
say what you will. trying to convince only 2 or 3 people on /vg/ isn't going to stop it.
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>>240484564
Could you explain your thought process to say that's what bases bond prices?
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>>240485232
convince them on what? you’re the one trying to convince us that bond prices will, somehow, be 50m in 4 days
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>>240485310
It use to take me 7 days to get a bond, but, now I can get a bond in less than 2 days. Pretty sure that's going to change the price of bonds.
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>>240484564
>The price of bonds is based off the highest coin profit from high alchemy per hour item in the game.
literally what
high alch is not the core of the runescape economy
the price of bonds is determined by perceived utility vs perceived cost of investment and scarcity
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Bond prices will never be more than 30m. Don't listen to this guy. He's just trying to get you guys to panic sell shit so he can make money off of you.
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>>240485485
No matter what you "perceive", the amount of gold in circulation is what limits everything no matter how much your little high school economics teacher disagrees.
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Huge plates rune salvage? That's what I buy with my tickets yeah?
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>>240485472
>It use to take me 7 days to get a bond, but, now I can get a bond in less than 2 days
How? Because rune is faster to mine? Did you forget that the alch prices of rune items went to shit? And that nothing drops rune ore anymore?
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>>240485621
except there won’t be more money entering the economy, it gonna be the same if not less
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>>240485662
yeah
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holy shit making rivets is annoying as fuck
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What's the fastest way to earn respect in the workshop? I need the armor sets.
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>>240487034
something that gives high xp drops
you get 1% respect for each 10k xp you get
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Can someone explain the benefits of using the Superheat item spell versus just clicking the forge to reheat?
Someone was saying that it's better to spam use the spell, but I can't understand why.
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>>240487123
Does that include burial sets?
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>>240487453
it should, yes
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>>240487295
i assume that if you have it on the actionbar it doesn't interrupt whatever you're doing, so i'd imagine it's about ensuring constantly max heat by casting it right before every smithing strike
afaik there's not really a point to reheating every strike without the smithing skillcape though
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>>240487574
Cool, thank you.
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Have they fixed the bane armor player model scaling issue yet?
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>>240487783
The point is that even if you have it on the action bar, you need to click the item you want to heat.
I'm not sure if that stops the smithing, though.
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>>240487034
Fix the burst pipes on the floor. 0.25% respect each.
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>>240488031
normally things on the actionbar don't interrupt actions
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>>240488031
Yeah the action bar doesn't allow for reheating via superheat. I don't stay on top of it, but if I happened to be tabbed in and I'm not close to hitting an auto reheat I'll cast it once or twice. It doesn't interrupt doing it this way.
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>>240488197
Yeah, but I would imagine that clicking the item would.
Maybe not, I'll check later when I'm online.
If it doesn't stop the animation, then yes, I see why it's better than clicking the forge.
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Is it just me or did the bond prices rise?
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>>240488283
Your post kind of confused me even more.
You start saying that the action bar doesn't allow for reheating, but end it saying that it doesn't interrupt it?
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>>240488487
The bonds rise!
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>>240488487
yeah obviously, it’s gonna get to 100m till the end of the week
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Difference between hammer tron and crystal hammer? I have the hammer tron I'm just unsure if I need the other
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>>240488571
You can put the in-progress item on your action bar (say to X) and superheat (say too Z). You can't hit Z then X, it just won't allow you to cast onto the item on your bar. You can however, hit Z and click the in-progress item in your inventory, and this doesn't interrupt you.

I think due to the left-click for the in-progress item being Destroy you can't superheat directly using the bar.
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>>240488948
Small difference but crystal hammer takes the edge.
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>>240488956
Oh, gotcha. So yeah, it seems to be better after all.
Gonna give it a try. Thanks for the explanation.
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that stupid pickaxe costs like 25m to make from scratch
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>>240489176
Just get an elder + 5 and wait for the price of the d pick to come down.
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>>240489176
.t picklet
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>>240488948
crystal hammer has 1% chance to double your progress per hit
it's kind of small but it's cheap enough to make one to be worth it
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>>240488038
I've tried this and it's either glitched or doesn't work anymore
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any idea what full elder rune +5 is going for right now?
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>>240490335
2 or 3 gp.
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>>240490335
more than 10
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>>240490439
>>240490450
well which is it
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>tfw prayer renewals outheal your prayer consumption on superheat form wearing gote
comfy
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>spent 2 days collecting ores and smithing masterwork
>trimmed masterwork
>equip it to have it custom fit
>cant augment it due to equipping it making it unaugmentable
>still degrades on reaper and slayer tasks
thanks jafex.
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The new armor sets are all based off the "Judge" armors from final fantasy 12. Not making this up.
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>>240490335
i will sell you my set for 5m
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>>240490993
we'll need some pictures, anon
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>>240491005
I'm not buying though
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>>240490867
we said that many times last thread
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>>240491065
exactly. nobody is
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>>240491161
I wasn't on 4chan so i didn't see that
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>>240491305
We're not on 4chan either. This is 4channel.
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>>240491305
there were also many posts about it on reddit
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>>240491396
i also dont use reddit
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>>240491471
well too bad
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>>240491174
whoa
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The virgin platelegs
>Needs full protection and support for his baby legs
>Spends all his time bossing for better platelegs, literally cucked by money
>Hunched over due to the weight of his armour
The Chad Chaps
>Slim aesthetic for maximum comfort
>Easy access to the back to drop a manly shit on his enemies
>Doesn't even need armour, wears whatever he feels like
>Legs bent like a gazelle for maximum speed
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6 masterwork plates ready
6 to go
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Have a full set of dyed malevolent that's level 20. Is there a way to upgrade it to trimmed masterwork (since malevolent is used in making it) so that the masterwork inherits my perks and equipment level, or am I fucked?
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>>240491985
nice legs mate
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>>240492218
You're fucked.
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>>240492218
you're fucked
the best you can do is use a separator so you can recover your gizmos to put on the new armor
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>>240492218
you're fucked
you can take the perks off of it without destroying it using an equipment seperator but you're better off just buying two new malev platebodies to turn into essence
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>>240490867
That's because you trimmed it idiot. Also fitting it only makes the item untradable. You're just stupid it sounds like.
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>>240492436
>fitting it only makes the item untradable
it also halves drain charge and makes it not use charges while on slayer/reaper tasks
but that last part is bugged, they're gonna fix it
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>>240492436
what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>240492436
you sound pretty stupid yourself
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page mine
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>>240490335
>>240490770
well, here's the instant sell price as of 5 minutes ago
just listed them all at 1gp since I only wanted the achievement
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>>240495850
who would seriously buy those? they're inferior to potato teralith in practically every way
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unexpected but welcome
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>>240496107
people training smithing
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>>240496239
its 200k xp for an elder rune burial set isn't it? damn, that's expensive xp.
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>>240495850
what the fuck
why is elder rune so close to its alch prices already
i know literally everyone made a set but these people do realize that elder rune burial armor sets are like 1m xp/hr right?
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>>240496368
some people have a lot of gp to burn
it could also be someone buying it because they like the set and want to keepsake it
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>>240495850
Just went and instasold mine after seeing this. Got a little more than you.
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>>240495850
I think that might be what's contributing to the decline, actually
people just doing elder rune +5 for the cheivo, then dumping it on the ge
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>>240497387
well that much was obvious
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page mine
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orichalcum is probably the most cancerous ore out of the whole bunch
>only one safe place it can be mined
>all rocks are spaced far apart
literally the worst
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for ironmen what's the best metal to mine/smith? hopefully t60/t70 because both would be fucking dead otherwise
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>>240500939
why would the best be anything other than whatever the highest tier metal you can mine/smith
why do you think it would be any different for ironmen
the whole point of the overhaul is that players have to do everything now
the only difference between ironmen and regular players mining and smithing wise is that ironmen can't outsource
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Mining is comfy
Smithing is not so comfy
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wake
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>>240487295
>Someone was saying that it's better to spam use the spell, but I can't understand why.
You know, things are a lot easier to understand once you look them up. Or at least take a look at your items' tooltips.
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>>240505524
What if he's a shitter without 99 smithing?
Be nice
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mine and smith
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>>240504907
sleep
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Zygomites at PoF: 120m xp/hr
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>have made over 100m profit from a few days of casul play, starting from 8m
u nerds are ez money
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>>240513434
Something weird happened. Instead of gathering produce from one pen, closing the ui and receiving the urn xp, then moving to another pen and repeating. I decided to stand with all pens in click range and gathered from all 12 zygos at once before closing the ui and popping the urns. My interface bugged the fuck out and my farm graphics glitched up when I got that sweet 240k urn xp drop.

Bank chest showing as a deposit box, pens showing as unbuilt, etc.
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>>240499178
enim egap
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gmorning anonymous
wah gwan?
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>>240517297
fold the bars make them pretty
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Careful guys we got ourselves a real bad ass here
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fold the bars
make them pretty

fold the bars
make them pretty
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threadly reminder to crude yourself
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>>240519504
Some of those characters need to be moved to tryhard corner. Mostly everyone after captain America to the right.
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>>240520646
eh details are allowed they're still wonky lines and basic geometry slapped together and not actual drawings with effort put into them
although i feel captain america should be in the tryhard corner myself
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>>240519504
I'm terrible at paint and I'm left handed, everything I make on it is an abomination.
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>>240518923
>sole_raper
got i hate these foot fetishists like the genie near narda constantly asking for soles
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>>240521040
sounds perfect, you know theres a lefty option for pc mice right?
i used it once when i fucked up my fingers and couldnt play age of empires right handed
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>>240521154
Really? Maybe I should try that next time.
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>>240522067
safe
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so one underrated feature imo is that prospecting is back
i like being able to know shit without lookin it up on the wiki
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>>240523469
>i like being able to know shit without lookin it up on the wiki
Me too. I always liked going to the game guide to find out levels for things, and always wished they'd have more information there.
I think at some point during the rs.wiki changeover they announced that they do want wiki information integrated into the game in some way. So that's nice.

But prospecting is better because it's straight interacting with the object itself and is a logical action to get information from. I really like it.
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i forgot how irritating getting large amounts of specific invention components is
fuck clear components in particular
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>>240523469
>>240524041
the level requirements are on the map you dumb cunts
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>>240524132
stackable geodes be givin out them gems like its nobodies business
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>>240524268
Dude, prospect a rock. It gives more than level requirements.
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>>240524274
i hadn't even thought of that, i wonder just how low gem prices will go
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>>240524425
eh the dip probably wont be massive
could already farm gems from wallsafes if you needed them
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another pet peeve about invention
the invention components pouch is the old style of blocking interface where you can't have it open and do something at the same time
which is just irritating
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>>240524330
Prospect my cock, faggot
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>>240525280
shauny is actually working on that
posted a working gif of it so it might be in QA by now
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>>240525332
shauny is too good for jagex, they don't deserve him
>implying jagex has QA
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>>240525904
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>>240490867
It's on the list(tm) of bugs to be fixed.
I posted a link to a Jmod stating this on plebbit in the last thread.
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oh
oh dear
i suppose i should have read the fine print

what's the quickest way to get item xp, specifically armor
and what's the not-as-quick but lower effort way to get item xp
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>>240527695
Kill lots of things very quickly.
Lower effort way is to kill lots of things very quickly while NOT using the most optimal abilities for the exact situation (Such as making good use of detonate and tsunami for example), just revo++ afk FAGGING.
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>>240527980
what things are optimal for genociding, specifically with melee
i need to get the good gizmos off my torva so i can use it for praesulic essence
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I finally got my robe top.
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>>240528380
Off the top of my head, abyssals, vyres, corrupted workers, salawa ahks.
And on that note, I like this bar for the first two, swapping zerk out for devo for the latter two. With mutated fury of course.
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>>240479652
I got a 'First Age Coin'from mine. No clue what to do with it, but it says it's 'very valuable'.
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>>240529489
alch value is 1m that's about it
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>>240529489
Alchs for a mil. Doesn't seem to have any disassembly purpose like rare relics though.
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This just in: the World Guardian has destroyed a priceless artifact from the first age of Gielinor's history, an extremely rare coin minted in commemoration of the first settlers' meeting with Guthix.
The Crux Eqal are on the case, but previous attempts to bring the World Guardian to justice have so far failed due to the prison cells not being Home Teleport-proof.
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>>240462075
26 yr olds boomer here. How the fuck can I get my account back from 2005. I have no idea what email/account name I used. I was level 90. Good for 12-13 yr old me. Started playing when I was 11 lol. Started my spiral from normie to social retard. I quit rs and immediately got addicted to vanilla wow and BC for years.
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>>240533961
if you have no idea what the username and email are, you're pretty much fucked
if you can at least remember one of them you have a chance
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>Strong mining and smithing urns are now f2p, despite normal mining and smithing urns doing up to level 50
Weird buff, but ok.
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>>240533961
Do you at least remember your character name?
From back then that used to be the username used to login.
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>>240534340
>>240534132
I remember the character name. That is it. Hopefully I can contact jagex and sort it out. I want to play mobile rs
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>>240534340
>>240534132
Also the account was linked to my mommies credit card. So that should help.
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>>240529624
Thanks anons
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>>240534485
just so you know, the publicly mobile version of rs would have you start over anyways even if you had the account, old school runescape isn't the mainline game
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>>240534597
>>240534485
If you remember your character name, go here.
https://secure.runescape.com/m=accountappeal/passwordrecovery
And follow the steps.
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>>240534665
Well fuck me
>>240534685
Cheers lad
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>>240534665
Rs3 mobile isn't out yet?
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>>240534863
It's on beta for android.
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page mine
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>>240536231
but what can you smith pages into?
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>>240536335
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcls8aRN9eo
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Folding my glorious Nippon steel at work. Once I've got all 12 bars how long do the plates take? Is it all relatively quick?
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>>240538948
10000 progress each, and you need to take care of heat
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>>240539310
For each step of plate production? Wew.
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>>240539669
yep
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>>240539781
Well I guess its good in a way since it gives me something to easily afk. On a similar note, since I'm busy with this, does anyone know the price on gorajian mushrooms? I usually Arc farm for my Zygos at work but I'd rather bang this out.
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>>240540661
don't forget autoheater if you want to afk
mushrooms pic related
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fellas let's appreciate the geniuses who edit the wiki more,,,,,,
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>>240540903
that title doesn't mean he was the one who edited more
lots of people have that title
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>>240540994
no I mean let's appreciate them more
not that he edited more or anything
also it requires a jmod to add the title unlock item to the account so it can't be that common
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>>240541114
>>240540994
also I count only 267 people who have that title as per the wiki page for it, not really "lots of people", anon
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>>240541114
oh I see what you mean
and if I remember right, the wiki admins are the ones that contact jmods when they think someone deserves the title
and now that the new wiki is actually endorsed by jagex, I also believe there must be a jmod or 2 that are wiki admins themselves
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>>240541286
that's still more people than most boss titles
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>>240541420
not really
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Other than Kags, Suity, and the Yak guy are there any other autists directly mentioned in game?
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>>240541560
the hard to get ones, at least
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>>240541640
the guy that got the first 4k telos kill
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>>240541752
Oh yeah. That's pretty legit though, even if Pantheon just sped up the inevitable.
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>>240541672
also not really, shauny's stream from the end of december shows only kk, corp, ed2, barrows, and solak collection logs are lower than the wikian
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>>240542385
I haven't seen that one yet
ok, fair enough
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Halfway done folding bar 9. Havent even started tempering the plates yet. I want to get off the ride.
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>>240534230
>Strong mining urns don't actually progress in f2p, despite being f2p items and being able to be made and activated in f2p
Sounds like i just wasted 500 clay.
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oh shit I just noticed that they updated this to show how may keys you have
too bad it doesn't work when you have more than 100 though
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>>240544742
page
>9+
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wait there's something bothering me
the guid of things to get before rework told us to get 720 steel bars, because you would need 120 rivets
but you make 10 rivets per bar
so you really just need 12 bars
did I get this wrong?
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>>240546715
plus the 600 you needed already
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>>240546829
yeah yeah, that's why it was 720, 600 + 120 for rivets
but it should really have been 612
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>>240547091
i don't know, now you are confusing me. good luck solving this riddle and enjoy your masterwork set.
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>>240547207
I believe there was a point in the beta where each rivet needed a bar, that's why you needed 120 extra steel bars to make the 120 rivets
and then they changed to 10 rivets per bar, and people just forgot to reduce the amount of steel bars needed
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>>240547375
The posted image said 614, to include making the ore box as well.
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>>240547932
I swear I've seen a list saying 720
maybe it was on reddit, idk
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>>240548210
Yeah some of the leddit guides were overly complicated and also wrong, not accounting for things like the ore box and sometimes even rune bars for the full elder+5 set. Ritsus simple notepad guide was truly the best.
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Does Aftershock go on the MH or the OH weapon?
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>>240551842
mainhand
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>>240551842
MH so you don't lose stacks when using defensives that need shield.
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>>240462075
>All existing smithable gear of at least steel quality is replaced with tokens, which can then be used in the artisan's workshop to purchase your choice of either gear or salvage depending on whether you want to use it or alch it.
>all my trimmed rune gear got fucking turned into tokens
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>>240552740
>all my trimmed rune gear got fucking turned into tokens
check again
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>>240552740
Are you sure? They said trimmed/god armor from clue scrolls wouldn’t be changed.
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>>240552813
>>240552942
even so, the change to the value of rune gear is probably gonna devalue trimmed armor across the board
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where can I mine luminite?
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>>240553230
mining guild resource dungeon is where i go
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>>240553230
Mine west of khazard battlefield has no requirements
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>>240553313
thank
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>>240553094
they weren't changed at all
their alch price is the same as before the update
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>>240553094
The alch price is still the old one for trimmed/god armor.
Besides, some of them give fortunate components.
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>>240553381
I'm f2p
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FUCK THIS
I'M GETTING AN AUTOHEATER
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>>240555497
why didnt you have one already anon?
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>>240555653
because I though I could endure heating the bars manually
spoiler: I couldn't
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I have an autoheater but it doesn't autoheat anything? I have about 200 coal in my metal bank.
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>>240557021
gotta let shit cool right the fuck down
just keeps it workable doesnt actually keep it hot :^)
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>>240557169
fuc
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I think due to the huge resource investment into TMW it should give some XP. Keep Glorious Bars at 1k, maybe each step of the plates gives like 2000 xp. Man this is rough, only on my second plate (I havent even curved the first one).
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>>240553094
why?
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>>240557330
it was deliberately made like this so people would only ever do it for money or for themselves
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>>240557572
Oh I know, but man it's bad. A bit of token XP for the sheer time investment would be nice. Or even if they did something like one fully tempered plate giving you like 2% respect at least.
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>>240557878
just make it give some respect and I'm cool with it not giving xp
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>>240557238
gote + superheat form + elven prayer crystal makes afk smithing good since it's not at lowest heat level
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>>240560483
stop using java
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>>240560736
html5 beta or bust
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>>240561005
enjoy not playing in a few months
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>>240561070
the image is years old anon
im on nxt now
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>Need to make 10m in 5 days to afford a bond
I'm so screwed
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how are rune dragons after the rework?
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>>240561209
Just stop being poor.
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>>240561209
2m/day
thats not a lot anon, you could just grind hunter or something
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>>240561283
same as before except no ore drops
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>>240561283
Similar. ED3 will be the final death knell.
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>>240561209
>he didn't capitalize on the massive profits on M&S update day 1
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did you finish your masterwork set, /rsg/?
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>>240564121
No, on my 6th plate. And that doesn't include curving, tempering, etc.
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>>240561209
Why does everybody in the game keep saying something like this?
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>>240564121
Yes. Trimmed, augmented, and custom-fitted.
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>>240564312
you can do it anon
>>240564573
nice work anon
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>>240564319
They want you to give them free shit.
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>>240564778
Just took another sippy of Perfect Plus and popped my Elf Shard. I'm gonna do it, 9gag.
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>>240564121
Still mining for my animes.
Just got my +5 set done.

Can't wait to bleed my soul on the anvil.
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Anyone know how much people have sold full Masterwork for?
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>>240565484
I've heard trimmed is down to 150m today, so regular must be lower than that
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Does anyone know if Trimmed Masterwork degrades in elite dungeons?
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>>240566485
I shouldn't. Have fun using melee in EDs.
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>>240566485
I did 1 run in ed2 this morning and it didn't seem to degrade.
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>>240566587
I always use melee in EDs so suck it. I've done dozens of them using melee and don't have any trouble. I splash a bit in ed2 but I prefer ed1 anyway so its all good. Basically I melee everything, including Telos.
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>>240567126
>meleeing Seriyu and Big Dick Masuta

Madman.
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>>240567194
melee isn't that bad for seriyu though, since his flame attack doesn't hit you
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>>240567483
I'd probably get banged by hands. I'm sure you 2 cycle without breaking a sweat though.
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>>240564319
Something something blogging communication empathy etc.
Expressing the frustration of a situation, hoping for an easy way out through gifts even if only subconsciously.
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>>240564121
Wanted to wait for bar prices to fall very low. But now that the trimmed set is like 200m, it's probably not even worth making for me now, opportunity-cost wise. Though I most likely still will for the hell of it, as doing stuff like that is amusing.
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What should I do
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>>240567981
You're getting 90 Fletching at the DXP weekend, right? If not, you should.
Right now, I suggest you go Mining.
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>>240567845
Yeah I could just buy a set but its not like afking the boring part at work really impacts me. I'd otherwise just be afking something else that's no profit.
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>>240567981
max
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>>240568229
Or you could AFK something else that is profit. Maybe even something that gains both profit and xp. Though a lot of that is combat, and if you're on mobile that's probably a questionable idea.
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>>240567981
Buy broads to get a decent stock of them for getting 99 whenever you get around to it. GE limit is the largest issue for that.
Do your caches if you don't like the Hall of Memories, at least until you can AFK ancestrals on the arc.
Then mine with an augmented pickaxe; try and raise that invention level while doing new content before its prices crash to hell.
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ded
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>>240569174
I really wonder where prices will settle once time has passed. How Glorious Bars will compare to a piece Masterwork. From there we can figure out the gp/hr and really decide if it's worth it.
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>>240570703
Since most steps are tradeable and it only really requires 99 smithing, with WGS only required to make essences from boss dropped armours, most of it might end up botted to hell. Just a possibility for that. But chances are prices will crash regardless. Because people often expect AFK money at around 3m/h to be worth running alts for.

Is there an achievement for making a masterwork set from scratch or base bars? There should be.
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>>240571146
I dont think so. Would be cool but not at this point since I alredy did my early steps. Got my 12 plates, time to curve em.
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>>240571146
after glorious bars, it’s only tradable when you finish it
there’s 7 steps in between that, and that’s what takes most of the time to finish it
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>>240572290
Oh, well yeah. That came out in the wrong order. What I meant to say is that most of the tradeable steps don't have any requirements besides 99 smithing. So any account with 99 smithing can do most of the work.
Even after finishing the base masterwork, both of its essences and masterwork trim itself are tradeable. So the WGS req can be bypassed. Meaning alts can take care of it pretty easy.
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>>240572760
so basically, you could buy regular masterwork and the trims, trim it yourself and then sell for a bit of profit
I understand that and it's a good point
the problem is, who would dismantle torva/malev just to sell the essence or the trim?
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>>240573281
Or make most of the armour on an alt and trade it back to your main after making masterwork and finish it to trim there since it's not too long at that point. Like, the only non-trivial req to making it can be handled quite quickly on an account that can do it.
Just buying complete masterwork and trimming it might not be very profitable because of that. Though if it is at all profitable, breaking down armours into ess would be too. But those would be kind of silly niche things to do.
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>>240574376
>make most of the armour on an alt and trade it back to your main after making masterwork and finish it to trim there since it's not too long at that point
but what do you get from that?
first of all, your alt needs 99 smithing
second, buying all materials to trade to the alt will probably cost the same as buying the finished set from the GE
third, you would still need to make it yourself on the alt, all the ~30 hours of it (since you would be afking with the alt)

there is no point in having an alt smith the armor itself
if you do have an alt and you want to use it to help you get a trimmed set, there's plenty of options to afk during those 30 hours to get some money, and then buy the finished set on the GE to just add the trim
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>>240574946
That's sort of what I was saying. Since it is doable on alts feasibly (ONLY 99 smithing really isn't much), it won't last as a decent money maker. Can't be more than 3m/h for long. So prices will settle quite low, and it will quickly become not worth it.
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>>240575292
ah, so I completely misunderstood your point
I thought you were saying people would be making alts just to make the armor while they play their mains
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how the fuck do I make 5mil in a day with max stats
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>>240575630
A lot of people already have alts and just direct them to easy tasks. I doubt anyone will make any new accounts for it. But alt moneymaking certainly will be a basis for max profits available.
For example, I remember just last year one guy was going on about how he ran 10+ alts at once doing something that only got 1m/h. Because all it took was ranged or something. That's the money making competition something like masterwork armour has to compete with. If it's any better than that people will crash it, with no survivors.

Hell, countless people set up divination vacuum alts, and those took both 99 div and 107 invention. And now charges are fuckin' cheap. The same should happen to masterwork soon enough.
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>>240577116
pick flax
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Realistically is there any reason to play this any further? I only log in for my daily keys now. I'm 120+ combat, but am retarded with combat. 250m in bank. What can I even do? All I do is fish. How long will RS3 last compared to OSRS?
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>>240580103
are you having a breakdown? don't play if you don't want to play, continue playing if you do.
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>>240580103
>Realistically is there any reason to play this any further
Realistically, there is no reason to play any game at all.
Hell, there is no reason to DO anything at all.
You're supposed to use your time to do whatever you want to do. If you don't want to play this game, and play another game in it's place, then that's realistically what you should do.
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>>240580103
you can give me your cash
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>>240580103
max
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>>240580103
Give me your money and I'll put it into some high risk investments. No guarantees that you'll ever get anything back.
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page almost dead
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I'm in Prifddinas today. Why haven't you found me yet, anon?
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>>240585038
I never bothered to.
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>>240585038
because titles are to be disabled
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>>240585038
2/13 now
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>>240567981
max
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Why am I enjoying the new mining & smithing? I haven't played for a couple years and was planning on canceling my subscription, but now I kind of want to play again.
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>>240587795
Because they actually made both skills enjoyable.
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is it just me or did bonds drop
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>>240588056
>made both skills enjoyable
Mining, maybe. Smithing is a snoozefest. And the low xp rates of the lower tier stuff psychologically feels wrong.
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>>240588249
>Smithing is a snoozefest
If you want to afk and have your progress be halved, sure.
If you actually manage your heat it becomes very fun.
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>>240588249
speak for yourself, it actually feels satisfying whenever I make a platebody now, compared to churning out batches of them with one click
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>>240590381
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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>>240587795
because for the first time ever, runescape has actual fucking gameplay
you're so used to it being a completely unabashed skinner box that any actual content in comparison is leagues better
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Holy shit. Just tried my Trimmed Masterwork at Telos and that shit was a cakewalk. I practically AFK'd 200 enrage.
Anyone try it at Kalphite King yet?
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>>240593596
please don't nerf it
please don't nerf it
please don't nerf it
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>>240594839
I'm going to tell Jagex that trimmed masterwork is too OP
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>>240593596
>wearing melee armor at a boss you're supposed to mage
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>>240596118
you're not "supposed" to kill it with mage
people mage it because mage is the strongest style in the game
now, if a new melee armor makes melee better in this particular scenario, everyone will start melee and you'll say that you're "supposed" to melee it
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10
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>>240588247
Yea because high alchemy values went down, not up. Players can't profit from buying ore and smelting bars to high alchemy anymore. This was a portion of the income for bond holders and thus, a portion of the bonds cost is now gone.

Luckily enough, free to play players still need rune for trying to level smithing and for player versus player combat.
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>>240599718
but anon said bonds will be 100m at the end of the week
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>>240599867
I WAS WRONG OKAY!? I didn't realize Jagex actually did something right for once and lowered the reward for high alchemy on rune items. I thought I was just going to go in, get rune, high alch, and fuck everybody in free to play.
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>>240599993
>I didn't realize Jagex actually did something right for once and lowered the reward for high alchemy on rune items.
literally everyone knew that
that was why scrap became a thing

why did you think people were calling you completely retarded
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Who's on your guy's ignore list?
>bartin
>temmie
>lath
>pavel
>every smiley
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>>240601293
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page mine
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>>240601293
It's empty because I don't interact with anyone ingame.
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fuck seren spirits
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>>240605817
yes
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I'm a nonmember. Where do I find mithril outside of the mining guild? Wildy? Al'Kharid doesn't have it anymore.
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>>240606816
f2p spots
>south west of varrock
>south east of varrock
>dwarven mine resource dungeon (not explicitly listed as members but i'm not 100% sure)
mithril is no longer found in the mining guild
for future reference to where to find this info, check the mining skillguide, click on the ore and that brings up all the locations
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>>240607091
Oh, all the guides were updated? Sorry, I hadn't expected people to be prepared for this so I just assumed I had to ask.
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>>240607183
none of the guides in the OP are updated
by skillguide i mean the menu that pops up when you click a skill
i just realized don't actually know what it's officially called
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we're all dead
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>>240608273
and yet we still live
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>>240580103
>How long will RS3 last compared to OSRS?
osrs will die out before RS3.
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>>240609020
i can’t even tell what that’s supposed to be it just looks like a blob
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>>240609020
obviously tattooing something from runescape onto yourself isn't advisable, but that is far from the worst sort of tattoo you can get. it could have been a tattoo portrait on his stomach or something
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>>240609020
oh wait is that greg
lmao out of all of the possible edgy runescape related things to get permanently on yo he could have went with he went with the single worst one
that’s not even going to get him points with other runescape edgelords
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>>240561209
aren't easy clues ridiculous money in 2018 when you have eighty billion teleport options and every clue gets you a fortunate component for 600k?
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>>240610479
not every clue gives you a fortunate comp
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>>240609020
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mine
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>can't bank ceremonial sword plans
>every single time you click the anvil it prompts you about them
fuck off cunt not now i'm working on my shiny armor
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>>240613824
B-but muh swords
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>>240612715
yours
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>>240614241
they're good xp and completely braindead tier easy with alt-1 but there's no reason they should be so badgery
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>>240615820
You can alt1 them? How?
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>>240616947
an update added a bunch of small utility things
it tells you what hits you should do and where, and a brief note on what order in the instructions
i've seen it change completely unrelated areas from hit to hit when it was low so think it actually adjusts it based on damage probabilities and hits remaining (though not perfectly)
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>>240615174
what's mine is yours
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>>240609020
>Reddit
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Do you think jagex will keep the trap in the Tirannwn anime mine?
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>>240619491
i hope they do
it's a surprisingly good starting point for conversation
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>>240582114
>Hell, there is no reason to DO anything at all.
But there is. Because doing nothing feels like absolute shit and leads to all sorts of mental issues. It may be unreasonable and absurd, but that's exactly what humans are.
I really wish nihilism wasn't so incredibly convincing. Because it just doesn't work out well in almost any context, self destruction aside.
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>>240588493
>If you actually manage your heat it becomes very fun.
Only if using the superheat item spell. Otherwise being interrupted every time you reup the heat is quite unsatisfying. Because it gives a negative feedback in that, for a short moment, your XP pauses whenever you interact. Which is sort of the opposite of fun.
Using superheat item as often as fucking possible with the smithing skillcape is pretty neat though. No negative feedback there, only drastic speed improvement.
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>>240620082
That kind of response to stimulation, and my capability to both acknowledge and avoid it, make me feel alive. I'd rather not spend money or bother professionals about something non-debilitating, as that's a waste of time for all people involved.
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>>240601293
>ignoring smileys
haha what a loser
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>>240601293
My ignore list is empty. It's a rather flawed system. I'd rather work on the skill of simply not reading things that I don't like to that degree, regardless of who speaks them.
Imagine others, people you normally like, talking to the people that you ignore, engaging them in the same ``degenerate'' discussion. Then you have to decide whether or not it's worthwhile to ignore them as well, or leave the chat entirely. Whereas if you can just skip over or tolerate such things then you can just manually ignore that section and get back to what you're doing in game.
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>>240620431
>That kind of response to stimulation, and my capability to both acknowledge and avoid it, make me feel alive
you're supposed to feel alive at a lot less
the fact that something so minor as not earning xp for a few seconds makes a difference at all in how much fun you have, says that your chemical capability to have fun is basically completely fucked
you are biologically incapable of having fun, and what you think fun is, isn't actually what fun is
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>QBD is now only 4m/hr according to the wiki
wtf bros? how am I supposed to make money now
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>>240620705
There are countless different types of fun. I find interacting with systems and managing different types of feedback to be most incredibly exciting and pleasurable. Same with noticing the feedback and understanding exactly what I enjoy and why. Games like Runescape that feed that desire are glorious.
That's far better than randomly feeling fun and not knowing why at all. Or interacting with systems strictly for progression without care of how that progression goes. That perspective alone would be incredibly boring, with it I would hate smithing just like the other guy.
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>>240620082
>>240620705
kys loser
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>>240622006
you too
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>>240612715
Dine
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>>240620710
hold still invader
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shiny fancy pretty armor
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morning anonernous
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>and what you think fun is, isn't actually what fun is
Oh shit, someone on the internet is having fun WRONG.
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Guardians of the World, take 2 - 75% this time.
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>>240628216
dont tell me what to do you're not my abuser
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>>240628216
Success!
And guess who's waiting for me in port? That's right, the last trio! God, this feels great.

>>240628305
Are you the avatar of the RNG? I don't need to be nice to you anymore.
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>>240629863
If you think that just casting a spell is "serious effort", and that opting to avoid negative stimulation in favour of positive stimulation with no real downside is somehow wrong, then I think it's you that needs some help. Because that line of thinking actually is debilitating. Like, it'll lead to you avoiding positive things out of sheer laziness. And by golly that would suck hard.
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so addamant stone spirits are a garbage drop
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Is autoretaliate disabled while mining now? Why? I don't want to have to go and right click this aggressive monster to attack it back.
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>>240631847
As are runite, gold, and coal. Much of the RDT's more common acceptable drops are now not just worth less, but actually worthless.
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Due to stone spirit drops from bosses being pretty much absolute garbage due to them being, at best, rune spirits, how would you rather they balance these drops? Quality or quantity?
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>>240633728
It depends on the boss/monster.
Nex dropping t80/90, QBD dropping t70/80, etc.
I wouldn't expect to kill the mole and get Animica spirits.
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>>240633728
Quality. Before, runite was level 85 ore. Now they are level 50 spirits to get ore with. It's a drastic and obvious downgrade that in now way could possibly preserve value.
If they replaced all boss rune stone spirit drops with animica stone spirits, it wouldn't be as good as before but certainly could have SOME value.
Mob drops of coal should be split like steel platebodies were. With some still dropping coal spirits, but the higher things that matter like bosses dropping luminite, maybe in lesser amounts for the price difference.
Leaving drops at roughly the same type of item while drastically crashing that item's level and value is completely absurd.
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>>240633728
What the 2 other posts said PLUS increasing the buy limit on the GE to 10k.
The reason you can’t sell them there is because, by having a limit of 100, everyone that wants them hit their limit too fast so they can’t buy more.
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>>240632579
dunno how they thought downgrading ores to lvl 50 or below wouldn't hurt their value as "ore replacement" drops
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>>240635995
>they thought
Whoa whoa now. That's an incredibly heavy assumption right there. I don't think they're really capable of that action.
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>>240635389
>a limit of 100
WAT. I somehow did not notice that. Seriously what the fuck? Even for animica, the slowest ore to mine entirely, you're guaranteed to use at least 2-4x that not per 4 hours, but PER HOUR. 100 is abysmal.
Why in the hell would they stifle demand fluidity that hard? That guarantees supply overruns any possible demand and crashes the price to the point people wouldn't even bother selling them at all.
GE limits are supposed to prevent buyout manipulation (And do a shitty job at that due to whales having plenty of money for alts) not stifle trade itself in the first place.
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>>240636412
Exactly.
That is why you cannot sell them. Because there’s no outflow of them from the ge, not because nobody buys it.
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>>240588247
bonds go up and down all the time
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>at some point set my mouse to a dpi of 400 off of its normal of 1800
>forgot about it
>got used to it
>started playing a lot of runescape again with the mining and smithing update
>all of the wrist problems that runescape gave me years ago before i had a proper setup came back
help
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>>240638593
go back to 1800
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>>240638738
how do i properly use a mouse again
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>>240638593
Why would you set its dpi so low at all, ever? You'd have to move the mouse almost 5 inches just to go from one side of a 1080p screen to another.
It's not like you'd need that drastic space for per pixel accuracy. With a decent mouse and surface moving by individual pixels at 1800-3200dpi should be no problem whatsoever.

Regardless, yeah, just set it back up high and get used to that again.
More importantly, fix your posture and do some daily stretches. Even playing all day long every day should not cause wrist problems.
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>>240638593
>still using default limbs in 2018+1
yall better not be doing this
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TMW grind resumes.

10/12 untempered plates. Got my 12 trim, leather, and 120 rivets. Hope I can finish today.
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>>240639062
wrist problems come from using a writing desk that arguably wasn’t even usable as a desk at all as a computer desk for years
runescape was the worst possible game for it and that was when i played it the heaviest
my posture now is fine, the problems are just permanent and come back at the drop of a hat
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holy shit this new mining is perfect to play some pokemon at the side
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i have sapphire golem head and torso, and ruby golem legs, i need emerald golem torso and legs
who can help a brother out, come to w2 edgeville
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>>240640403
>i have sapphire golem head and torso, and ruby golem legs, i need emerald golem torso and legs
I can't help with your in game problem as I've completed mine. But it would certainly be better to have your accidentally spoiled message more visible, so there.
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>>240640535
>accidentally
:)
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>>240640403
https://discord.gg/hJGJbSs
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>>240639830
Oh shit untempered > masterwork piece is only 1k progress. I'm definitely getting this done today.
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>>240640919
Aw shit riveting doesn't take long either. Soon gamers.
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>>240639830
>can't make trim until i get my torva to level 14 from 0 and use an equipment seperator on it
fuck you for getting nice things before me because of something i did to myself
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>>240641931
How long does masterwork take in total?
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>>240642193
between 15 to 25 hours, depending on if you have everything needed and if you're keeping your heat up or afking
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>>240642193
a long ass time
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>>240642193
It's taken awhile but I'm not really keeping track. An enriched > glorious bar is about 20 minutes, so that 12 times. The first few parts of each plate is 10-15 mins: so that a few times 12 times. You get the idea.

I wouldn't be surprised if times were on the wiki.
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>making regular masterwork armor doesn't have a proper animation
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Was thinking about making a Magic and Def account just for shits and giggles.
Only skills would be Magic, HP, Def, Prayer, Slayer and the stats for Invention.
Anyone have any idea how going from 1 to 80 Smithing is now?
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>>240643695
presumably a breeze with the ore box and never ending ore rocks
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>>240643782
Didn't know mining was a req for invention.
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>>240644076
well i mean if you wanna buy 80 smithing more power to you
i mean smithing is supposed to be profitable now so thats something
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I'm all done resetera. We did it.
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on a scale of i hate myself to i want to kill myself how long is getting armor to item level 14 going to take
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>>240645895
somewhere in between "I give up" and "why am I doing this"
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>>240645895
Just about twice as long as level 12, item XP doubles every two levels.
It's not so bad.
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rip aggro pots
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>>240646481
>engine work
Fuck.
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>>240646481
I mean... where are you using aggro pots where you need TMW? Just hang in to a Nex set for abbies.
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>>240644207
>smithing is supposed to be profitable now so thats something
Mining the ores, then making bars is.
Pretty much every single other thing isn't.
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>>240646849
it's not about needing TMW
if it doesn't degrade, why not kill abby demons with it?
obviously now I know not to, until they fix it never, probably
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>>240646481
there’s so so so so many problems with what he’s saying implies i don’t even know where to start
i knew the runescape codebase was bad but holy fuck i didn’t know it was that bad
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ENGINE WORK
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>>240646953
>Mine your own ore which means you're not losing money buying product
Well yeah that's always been profit?
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>>240647004
Theres a ton of legacy code used all over the place. RS has a ton of tech debt and something like this is major engine work. So LOL because mobile has had the engine team hostage for years.
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>>240647057
I think you've missed the point.
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>>240647198
the stuff he’s implying is worse than legacy enterprise codebase tier stuff though
how the fuck does runescape even manage to work at all

didn’t they redo the degradation system recently
why can’t they just add a seperate new check instead of relying on the retarded one that results in data races
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>>240647630
because that isn't on the degradation system, it's on the slayer target system
the degradation code says "don't use charges when taking hits from your slayer task"
but the slayer code says "your slayer target is abyssal demon #1"
if you use aggro pots, and then abyssal demons #1 through #7 are hitting you, there's nothing the degradation code can do
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>>240647630
>how the fuck does runescape even manage to work at all

RuneScape is a marvel and I want an objective documentary on the game (not on Jagex) and how it works and has evolved.
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>>240647878
that’s why i said change the not-legacy-and-therefore-easier-to-change new degradation system to make its own checks that don’t rely on the slayer target system
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>>240648464
I bet you think making large changes to code is as easy as copy and pasting
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>>240648464
oh yeah, that's what they're probably try to do
however, not everybody on their team know how to change those engine stuff, so they'll have to either wait for mobile to get out and these people be free, or try to put someone that has no idea how to do it, which could cause even worse problems
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>>240649027
SLIM HEADERS
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>>240649027
what's with that wall, specifically?
why does it always break?
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>Completely rework a skill from the ground up
>Alaea Crablets are still the best xp in the game
lol
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>>240649218
that was intended
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>>240649142
falador north wall shortcut
dunno
>>240649218
as intended
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>>240645895
About 4 hours from level 1. 10 takes roughly 1 hour, 12 takes roughly 2 hours.
Could be faster or slower depending on your damage output and target.
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>>240648691
I’m currently in the process of putting off exactly that to the vulkan renderer I’ve written, faggot. That’s just irritating. I can only imagine the hell they go through every day.

The degradation system is new.
They had to have changed it in the first place to add the code which depends on the legacy shit that has a data race.
At most, making a new check only requires accessing three values, some of which have some potential to be cached in some way or avoided entirely
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>>240649537
you say that based on the knowledge of whatever code language you use
we don't know runescript
could be 3 values, could be 500
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>>240649836
I hope it’s not 500 because then the EoC would have upped their server performance needs significantly
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>>240650335
it was just an hyperbole example
the point still stands though
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>>240646481
How is "if mob equals slayer task then armor takes no damage from mob" hard to do?
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>>240650420
point taken, i forgot runescript was a thing
i wonder how many bugs are caused by the runescript compiler/interpreter itself
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>>240650493
it was literally just explained a few posts ago
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>>240650493
the game doesn't take all abyssal demons as your targets, the game picks only one of them (the one you're attacking) since you can only have one target at a time
the degradation works based on your target
the abyssal demons you're not attacking are not your slayer target
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>Regular Masterwork armor can be repaired with cash like normal
>2.4m for the whole set to repair
>Trimmed Masterwork requires using pieces of normal masterwork to repair

that seems like it could get crazy expensive to maintain
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>>240651049
>augment
>chargepack
only have to replate the foots hands and head
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>>240651049
it will be the around the same cost to maintain malevolent, pretty much
if you custom-fit it, even less than that
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>>240651049
Is the malev a one-time thing or is it needed for repairs
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>>240651260
you only use torva/malev essence to trim it once
the regular masterwork you use to repair trimmed doesn't need the essence
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who gives a fuck about trimmed masterwork
>unironically using melee
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>>240652621
the set effect
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>>240651367
>read up on it
>need tons of malev for the trim
guess I'm never getting it
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>>240652742
not tons, you need 12 essence, which is 6 helms, or 2 platebodies
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>>240652879
that's a lot of kills
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>>240653067
oh you're ironman
yeah you're fucked
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>>240653067
Are you an ironman?
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>>240652621
>Get hit for 15k while maging
>Die
>Get hit for 15k while ranging
>Die
>Get hit for 15k in TMW
>Actually get hit for 7.5k, then take 7.5k over the next 6 seconds
>Out heal and don't die
Gee i wonder why.
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>>240653285
there's this thing called barricade that makes you get hit for 0 instead of 15k or 7.5k and it's free to use

you should try it sometime
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>>240653397
Tell that to KK.
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how do you outheal 7.5k damage in 6 seconds with 2500 health
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>>240653593
you use these things called "food" from your inventory
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>>240653593
Spam your brew, fish, and optionally jellyfish hotkeys.
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Masterwork completed. Now I'm gonna wait a few more days to see what's gonna be decided about the custom-fit non-degrading issues to see if I dismantle my Torva or keep it.
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>>240655183
arraxor
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>>240655183
Fish lobsters
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>>240655183
pick flax
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>>240650725
>the game picks only one of them (the one you're attacking) since you can only have one target at a time
But that's demonstrably false, as killing several of the same mob at once both gives damage/accuracy boost from slayer helm AND rewards slayer XP.
It's only their detection for degrading that is being delayed. Nothing else is showing symptoms of this at all.
Thus it's more likely that the guy who coded the new armour's limited degrading functionality is throwing Jack on a wild goose chase over an issue he failed to handle properly.
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>>240656490
damage/accuracy boost is against the whole species of your slayer task
the armor was specifically coded that only your TARGET doesn't make it lose charges
these are 2 completely different mechanics that shouldn't be different
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>>240655183
obligatory sell the gear for instant £$€
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>>240656842
>the armor was specifically coded that only your TARGET doesn't make it lose charges
I was going to say that's an absurd way of doing thing but yeah, they are indeed two different mechanics that shouldn't be different.
Checking only if the target is a task to prevent degrading when hit is FUCKING STUPID. Checking what is hitting the player, and just discounting the task mobs at that point, is what I'd consider common. That way you can make it still degrade for things besides the task attacking the player, even while a task mob is attacking as well. Because that makes sense.

Although if that is how it works, then that means it'll degrade far less for me than the average AFKer. As I immediately click new targets as previous ones die rather than waiting on autoretaliate, since that's slow as molasses.

Also, someone in game just said that someone on plebbit suggested a short timer buff, so that attacking a slayer/reaper target would set a NO-DEG timer for like 10 seconds and rebuff during. So that it would still provide almost constant NO-DEG even with this stupid way of doing things.
I would be fine with that, I guess.
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>>240657541
yeah, they'll probably end up doing one of those things
or not, idk
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>>240657541
>so that attacking a slayer/reaper target would set a NO-DEG timer for like 10 seconds and rebuff during
That would cover the minion problem as well, preventing nech's and glacor's little bitches from degrading things for up to 10 seconds after the last hit against the base mob.
Though I personally believe minions SHOULD degrade it. As they're not the actual task monster. Well, whatever.
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>>240658553
I think the problem with minions is at bosses
araxxor spiders, gwd1 generals, helwyr wolves, and many others
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>>240658770
Well it would solve that too, for about 10 seconds or however long the timer would be after attacking the main boss.
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>>240659197
I was talking about what you said that minions should degrade it
the armor is said to not degrade during boss fights for reaper tasks
dealing with araxxor spiders are part of the boss fight, you need to deal with them to kill the boss
same thing with BM pets, they're part of the BM fight, not something unrelated that just happens to be there attacking you
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>>240655183
Spiderman, ED2, Nex.
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Is there a figure on bxp from treasure hunter? how much would it cost to get 1m bxp?
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>>240660848
impossible to know for sure
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How should the Spring Cleaner be set up now? I just logged in for the first time since the rework and I want to slay.
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>>240655183
Suck dick at GE
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>>240661345
alch rune/large and huge addy
disassemble everything else since it doesn't use springs
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>>240660848
kys for even considering that.
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>>240661681
What does disassembling garbage do now? Like, actually disassemble for components or does it just remove the drop?
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>>240662108
components
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To someone that has the mobile beta, how much storage does it take on your phone?
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Are dwarven ramhammers useful in any way?
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@weht (and anyone else who wants to know ores for trim memework)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1rA3ZhD_WXWRbRZSInufZkyAVZZRMZzKMI-w18bfajiQ/edit?usp=sharing
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>>240664467
fancy colors
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>STILL no endgame money making methods outside of PvM
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>>240667627
go mine some dark animica
~2m/h
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Soon™
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>>240668173
2mil an hour is a fucking JOKE in 2019
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>>240668423
it's low effort, what did you expect
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>Worldhopping to find a world where nobody is at Morytania abyssal demons
>Every world I've checked has a dumb bimbo female avatar with animal ears fighting them
It doesn't even feel like I'm changing worlds, all these avatars look the same apart from different combat styles
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>>240667627
What do you expect? Nothing else has any risk, attention span, skill, or strategy requirement whatsoever. Obviously they can't stay high profit at all.
How would you make something non-combat require any of that?
Extreme random chance could provide risk but that's retarded gambling at best.
People would bitch to high hell about skilling that requires attention span, skill, or strategy.
I just can't really see anything like that working.
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>>240596118
>supposed to
get a load of this sheeple
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I play as a female character and i'm a chubby guy irl
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>>240670229
Classic.

But the real question is... Do you piss in bottles?
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>>240670229
that makes you the gay
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page 9
the callas on my right heel is all fucked up
i feel bad for people in silverhawks
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mine
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What would be the best price to buy Elder Rune Platebody +4? If you make them into +5 and then bury them its for a combined 160k xp. I know they are crashing hard so I want them for super cheap
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>>240491005
you still around? Ill buy some sets from you. Username is Dwl is sick
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>He thinks he's close to finished
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>>240680003
I thought that was newer.

RIP Comp
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I haven't tested them because I can't be bothered, but I read somewhere that gem rocks are one inv an hour? LOL. You get more than 28 geodes an hour doing like animica, which give you gems while you mine that shit.
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>>240679543
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>>240681562
Great googly god, that's some gorgeous gorgonite.
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>>240682084
best looking armor in the game imo
except the helmets, I hate dung helmets
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wake up
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>>240628419
My last voyage came in, by the way.
I'm done with Eastern Adventurer! The cash from selling off my trade goods was a nice cherry on top.
I'm not quite done with ports, as I'm still missing all of the Whaler's clue voyages (somehow he's never had ANY) and three more eastern scrolls (all the worthless skilling ones). In truth I only really care about the Master Quest Cape requirement, so these last ones will be done passively. I've already built jade statues and such to make money from trade goods, but if I get a scoll voyage here and there I'll do it.
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>>240684484
Congratulations gamer. PoP is some really good content
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>>240684484
that sounds great, gz anon
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SOMEONE DUO NEX WITH ME
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>>240685014
just solo it bro
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>>240684972
don't forget to nab the reinforced plates from bandit shop
good profit due to malev essence
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>>240685014
Nex duo is fuckin' fun. Are you maxed? How many kills per hour can you do?
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>need to make 13mil in a week
i'm so fucked
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>>240688060
How many oddments did you spend?
Do you have anything else you would rather have spent them on? If not, no big deal.
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>>240688662
he probably spent his tendie bucks on it. or maybe goodboy points.
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>>240688662
idk know many, a lot of them
and not really anything else for me to get
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>>240688781
no keys bought, but lots of daily challenge keys saved for promos and some oddments also used to get keys on specific promos like smouldering and those stars that give 2x bxp
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>>240688952
i usually dump mine on dungeoneering, since i never train it and trade them in for actually useful things with nic/vic
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>>240689254
yeah I used to do that
but then I decided to go for 120 slayer, so why not
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>>240689383
its now the fastest and easiest skill to get to 120
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>>240688060
how do I cope
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>>240690703
I need more than your total slayer xp to get to 120
does that motivate you? probably not
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>>240691524
The new best reward is coal stone spirits. I got 900 of those and can't even sell them at 1gp each. A reward that used to get you 150k now gets you nothing.
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>>240690703
>>240688060
>needing slayer xp in 2019
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>>240688623
if you do two farm runs a day that's
100k per patch x5 for Kuarms plus 300k for bloodweed in the wildy
then you get 9 morchellas in two patches for 3k each for another 50k or 80k for 2x6 bittercaps
run feathers, runes and arrow tips for another mil or two
you can easily get over twice that amount per week with levels under 60 and one hour a day
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>>240691914
what the fuck were they thinking with the ge exchange limits on those things
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>>240693691
>what the fuck were they thinking
The problem is that they weren't. >>240636091
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>>240694324
they definitely were
this isn't just retarded this is full retard
they had to have done this on purpose for some really really stupid reason
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hello /rsg/
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how the FR*CK does any1 make money if they cant do telos
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>>240696768
all the other bosses
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>>240696768
elite dungeons, nex, merchenting, slayer, skilling etc
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>>240696768
dunno about you, but I make billions from merching

not to mention it doesn't rely on bullshit RNG :^)
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>>240697129
Teach me to merch, senpai. I have 2b in cash I can start with.
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>>240697985
buy bonds in December and sell them in march
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>>240696643
sup anon
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fucking memes.
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>>240698868
What are those?
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>>240698915
a shitty cosmetic. you disassemble them for fortunates
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>>240688060
no biggie, you only got a little more than you needed and you will probably slay a little after 120 anywho.
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>>240701350
I got almost DOUBLE what I needed, anon
I just hope vic has some decent stuff next time he appears
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>>240701432
nic has better stuff. aura and life refreshes are the only things worth getting bonus xp for.
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>>240701638
I don't really pvm, though
that was the main reason to put bxp into slayer
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I recently did While Guthix Sleeps and The Light Within quest and I dont understand the gripe about them being hard theyre just tedious
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>>240704161
noone ever said they're hard
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>>240684972
>want to sell torva
>but don't want to destroy my biting 3 + other perks
m-maybe I'll reach level 15 before the price drops
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10 again and again.
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>>240708284
what if we didn't have an rsg thread any more
would we finally be free?
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>>240705052
>not making it into a set of trimmed masterwork
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>>240709558
There's always RSOF.
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>>240709903
that’s worse than reddit
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>>240710315
gotta start somewhere.
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>>240696768
gargoyim are 6m/hr rn
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Fine, I'll bump the thread. Hurry up and get here Eurofags.
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>>240705052
pro-tip. add 5 manifest shadows to your small slayer dungeon room and afk them. you get loads of elite clues and some pretty fast item xp.
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You feel the warmth of the bonfire leaving you. Your maximum health is no longer boosted.
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I'm really liking this new mining.
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this update has made me realize how much of the gp per hour from bosses came from mining and smithing related drops
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>finally trimming my masterwork
i can't wait
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>>240720843
it degrades on tasks and there is a bug that makes it so that you cant custom fit augmented masterwork sometimes, and augment custom fit other times. in other worse, it's a buggy mess at the moment.
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>>240720843
Congrats. Don't forget to augment it before custom-fitting.
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>>240721010
i know about the first and the third bug, but literally nowhere mentions the second

>>240721061
i'm pretty sure the bug is actually caused by wearing it before augmenting it but yea i know
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>>240721332
saw some people on the forums complaining about it
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>>240721486
do you have a source that isn't mentally retarded
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>>240721567
http://services.runescape.com/m=forum/a=13/c=52OZtAHdUKM/forums.ws?15,16,82,66074624
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>>240721708
the type of people who use the forums are the kind of people who wouldn't trim a full set, wouldn't wear it, and wouldn't actually talk to the guy you need to talk to to have it custom fitted and wonder why it doesn't work
however i just noticed something
the wiki articles say it uses charges from the universal charge pack when it doesn't it uses charges stored in the item, and when it runs out you need to use a regular masterwork on it
that's depressing and blatent misinfo
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woo finally a codex drop
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>>240722636
Congrats, anon.
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is there a better fc than grindanfc out there that won't give me as much cancer?
pls help
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Nex is my wife.
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>>240723065
back the fuck off.
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i did it
i don't feel as happy about having done it now that i know the wiki page is mostly wrong
i'm going to make two more fucking sets of regular masterwork, one as an actual usable armor set that doesn't use retarded degrade mechanics, and one as a repair set for this shit
i can't believe no one called out those wiki bastards
so fucking lazy
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>>240723637
woo nice. good thinking on making a second set of regular masterwork. that's what i did. no more D2D malevolent or 45m steadfasts
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>>240723816
i don't plan on starting now of course
too fucking mad at the wiki
they knew that the articles were fucked days ago but still haven't bothered properly fixing it
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>>240724573
wait what's wrong with it gamer
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>>240724772
when the update released, both augmented trimmed masterwork pages said in both the blurb at the top and the section on degredation and repair that it used charges from the universal charge pack
it does not, and when its internal battery runs out you have to repair it the same way as unaugmented trimmed masterwork woth the addition of divine charges

the degredation and repair sections were corrected on the 9th apparently
The blurb on the top, i.e. the first thing you see, was not corrected, and hasn’t been.

and the cherry on top of the shit sundae is that they got the wrong dwarf
elof is the one who custom fits armor, the pages all say suak
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>>240725326
all that autism for nothing :^(
is it worth upgrading from my torva set then?
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>>240725398
the defensive buff of the armor is really quite good and once they hopefully fix custom fitting’s slayer thing, degredation isn’t going to be as much of an issue

so I’d say yes but i would also bang out a set of regular masterwork to use as cheaply repairable backup armor
optionally also make another one just for the purpose of having repairs for the trimmed set on hand
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>>240725398
regular masterwork uses charges from the charge pack, so yeah id say make a set of that. or both trimmed and regular.
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>>240725808
>once they hopefully fix custom fitting’s slayer thing, degredation isn’t going to be as much of an issue
I think the jmod response was posted higher up itt, it requires a rework of the game engine to better detect how slayer monsters are defined with regards to "on-task" for degradation purposes aka never ever
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>>240725964
That’s not what he said at all
He said their implementation for the slayer thing might be fixable, and that the fix for boss and slayer monster minions would be nearly impossible due to too much effort and the fact that it’s technically not a bug
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>>240726061
>technically not a bug

GUYS THIS SICK NEW SET OF ARMOUR THAT TAKES 36 HOURS TO MAKE DOESN'T DEGRADE ON TASKS

okay it does and it isn't a bug and we aren't fixing it.
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>>240726237
there’s more than one bug with degradation you idiot, this is jagex we’re talking about
one of them deals with slayer tasks
That’s the bad one that will actually seriously hurt degradation rates and the one that can be hopefully fixed.

The second bug is that the minions of repear assigned bosses and slayer creatures (think glacytes) can degrade to be able to degrade the armor.
That one is not as relevant and technically not a bug because you aren’t asigned a boss/slayer monster’s minions to kill.
That requires redoing how slayer as a whole and all bossfights work and isn’t worth the effort.
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>>240726061
except how I'm reading his statements he clearly says it's not just minions but also groups (hell even 1v1 slayer) that degrades the armour
so as it stands now it's a broken design even if it takes 10,000 hours to degrade fully instead of 100
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>>240726485
>isn’t worth the effort.

GUYS THIS SICK NEW SET OF ARMOUR THAT TAKES 36 HOURS TO MAKE AND DOESN'T DEGRADE ON TASKS IS RIDDLED WITH BUGS WE AREN'T GOING TO FIX AND WEREN'T PREPARED FOR BUT ARE STILL GOING TO ADVERTISE IT AS WORKING
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>>240726539
>>240726626
again
Two bugs
One screenshot
Slayer task degradation is one bug
Monster Minion degradation is another
Completely separate in how they work and why.
Calm the fuck down and actually read it

Slayer task degradation is the very bad bug that will hurt your armor.
It is the bug caused by legacy code with a data race.
It is the bug that causes groups and 1v1 slayer to degrade your armor.
It is also apparently a fixable bug.
It is the first half of what he’s talking about.

Minion minion degradation is the second half of the image, and the second bug.
Minion-caused degradation is quite honestly irrelevant for slayer, very few slayer monsters even have minions and none of them are going to be doing much in the way of hits.
Because this isn’t a big - minions aren’t supposed to count towards slayer and boss kills obviously - it’s harder to fix.
It’s two pieces of code doing what they should do.
It’s just that what they should do is bad.
This requires a complete remake of slayer and bossing behind the scenes.
For the amount of slayer monsters worth doing that actually have minions, there is no pragmatic sense in actually resolving the issue.
Literally the only monsters that i can think of that triggers it is glacors and nechryaels
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>started playing recently after not having played since 2006 or some shit
>as of a week ago, I haven't had more than a couple million gold ever
>smithing gold bars is like 300k/hr
>will never have the money to buy dragon rider lance
>decide to start making decorated mining urns for money, pretty decent
>out of fucking nowhere there's an update to mining
>now everybody wants my urns
>selling them for 5k each
>wind up with 44m gold
>realize I am rich beyond my wildest dreams and can buy literally anything I want
>look up how much it's going to cost to train prayer and herblore to 92 and 96 so that I can finally start fighting monsters

hold me
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>>240727046
reaper exists and many bosses have minions. telos for example, 6 100+% telos degraded my armour by .2% i imagine gwd 1 bosses would eviscerate your armour.
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>>240727151
>wind up with 44m gold
>realize I am rich beyond my wildest dreams and can buy literally anything I want
I chuckled.
>>240722636
this guy just made 160m in 1 drop
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>>240727046
>slayer bug is fixable
big if desu
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Anyone have the files for the mobile beta on hand?
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>>240727551
“I think the implementation is a bit wrong, and I’ll see what we can do” - Mod jack

Interestingly, I can only think of one very old thing, well one group of things, in the game that would use a system like he described.
My guess is that the bug is with part of the system slayer helms and their parts use for damage and accuracy buffs, which is why it’s based on a singular “target”
Can’t think of anything else ancient as shit that it could be
It would also explain why there’s a data race, because it’s a check for offensive buffs and not defensive buffs it naturally doesn’t do its calculations until you attack.

I would hope slayer helms aren’t actually a critical part of game logic
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>>240728032
given how old all this stuff is it might very well be the case
I'll hold off on taking apart my torva for parts until a clear conclusion has been made on it
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>>240728032
they had to know the armour degradation didn't work properly before they released it
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>>240728369
maybe it's another case of jagex quality like with the bank rework
>yep it's possible we're so hyped for this
4 months later
>yep still possible we're gonna do the best for you players
1 year later
>sorry lol we realized it was impossible about a month in we just didn't mention it until now
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>>240728369
I doubt it, this style of bug is really not something anyone but their engine/server guys would have thought to test for.
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First time logging in for ages. What is the go with upgraded pickaxes? Spoonfeed me
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>>240729243
>equip armour
>fight telos
hmm the armour degraded

>equip armour
>do a couple slayer tasks
hmm the armour degraded

literally all it took was 1 fight against telos to find out the armour degraded. that means they didn't even bother QA testing it
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>>240729334
better pickaxe = better mining
you need a pickaxe of the same tier to mine a rock without a penalty
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>>240729640
I was talking about software testing, stop believing that jagex has QA, they don’t
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Bros
Rune or Bane
Which makes more money?
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>>240730971
B A N E is more per ore but slower (good thing I had a stack for 12k ores banked before rework), but rune is way faster.

I'm surprised luminite isn't up there with rune prices, as you need it to smelt the crap.
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>>240731753
I got 112 Bane Bars but they aren't selling
They are worth 3m
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>>240732672
If they are not currently selling for a price then the market does not believe they are currently worth that price.

Either drop the price till it sells or set up a price that you believe will sell non-instantly and wait.
Or hell, for an item so cheap it's generally fine just to test both instants yourself for a slight loss. Here, I even did that for you.
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>>240698868
yo anon i herd u liek box so we put box in your box
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>>240732941
It sold for 1.12M

Should have known the 3m was too good to be true
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>>240733369
Yeah, that's usually the case. GE prices are rarely ever accurate, especially around new updates.
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good morning /rsg/
how’s the mining and smithing in this lovely saturday going?
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>>240738717
still doing dailyscape so the only mining ive gotten done is red sandstone
and maybe the 50 free coal from modified smithing hat if that counts
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>>240738717
I don't know but ELDER LOGS ARE GOING DOWN IN PRICE AND NO ONE'S BUYING
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>>240738717
>>240739065
addendum: just found some kind of stealth dung room for the first time
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>>240739253
oh those suck
I just always kill everyone and then get the key
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>>240738717
I'm still riding the Sinkhole high from when I got that team Meerkats card. Getting 500k XP per day is so nice, and I've still got 25 in the bank. They'll probably last me all the way to 117 or something ridiculous like that.
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>>240740079
that's the Chad way of doing it
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>>240742123
gotta improve that now
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How long does 90>99 invention take?
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>>240746486
several months if like me you dont train it
>>240742123
pic is old and still completely accurate although now im maxed and have better than t70s so i can probably knock the time down by maybe half or at least a third
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>(You)
meant for >>240746374
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>>240746625
>>240746719
I see
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>>240746486
a while
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why so dead today?
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>>240752067
its not that dead, its usually quiet on weekends here
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zaros
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>>240752516
sad
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>>240755682
yeah i blame gym anon and his gym going other anon who isnt gym anon
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>>240756160
does gym anon only go to gym on saturdays?
that's kind of odd
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>>240756590
on weekends iirc
he does come back to bump later in the day though
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>>240756590
No
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Should I spend my money in the next DXP on 99 summ and Prayer or should I save money for 90 weapons?
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>>240757538
get summoning, prayer doesn't work unless you want to do cleansing stones
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>>240757538
There's no shame in stopping at 96 Summoning/95 Prayer and saving the rest.
What weapons do you have now? Do you boss or do Slayer? The answer depends strongly on these factors.
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>>240757538
Depends on your playstyle and which would help you more.
Weapons first if going to boss. Then 95 prayer before 96-99 summoning.
92 prayer first if going to vyre for some stats and money. Summoning and weapons don't matter there at all.
If just slaying t90 weapons aren't going to make or break many tasks compared to the drastically cheaper t87 or t85 options. But 95 prayer would for both soulsplit and turmoil tier prays to free up the neck slot from zealots where relevant.
There are certainly other factors but I'd consider these first.

But like the other guy said, prayer doesn't benefit much from DXP unless you're strictly AFKing it at hefin like a fag. So there's no sense in waiting for DXP for that at least.
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I completed a Mithril dragon task before leaving the house, and now as I come back I go to sell my loot.
Then I find out that what I thought was a dragon med from the RDT is actually a dragon full!
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>>240758824
nice
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Do you remember to tell Morvran or your other slayer master "Okay, great!" When you like your assignment?
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>>240760038
I wonder if they keep statistics for that.
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What are quests that are actually fun to do? I just did Toktz Ket Dil and I wanted to kill myself halfway through.
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>>240761818
Salt in the wound
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>>240761818
yampvre quests are fun for lore
gameplay wiseits been too long for me to remember maybe some of the pirate quests?
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>she isn't either crafting her own trimmed masterwork armour or already in possession of a set right now
embarrassing
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>>240762584
who?
im still just making my +5 set to unlock mastertwerk
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>tfw got burned out from the rework
time to take a break
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>>240762584
>she isn't an ironwoman
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>>240757921
I have a Lance for Melee but only a sunspear for both Magic and Range

And I already have 95 prayer
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>>240758309
Aren't Dragon Bones on wilderness altar nowadays the same as prif stones on DXP xp/gp now that Dragon bones are now only 1660 ea?
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kingdom of hearths
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>>240767221
>the weak should fear the strong
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>>240772953
>>lummy
No one says that.
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>>240772953
cummy
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>>240772402
Is this Menaphos?
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>>240775992
Looks like the gnome colony in the Arc, I forget what the name of the island is. Tuai Lei?
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>>240775992
>>240776386
tuai leit
too late
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>>240776729
more like Twilight, some MLP reference by Mod Horsefucker
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I heard all the armors got redesigned. Is there an album of it anywhere?
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>>240779689
they didn't
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>>240765345
OFF of DXP dragon bones would be about 5gp/xp or so on either wildy or gilded altars.
ON DXP it might still be incredibly shitty by having the DXP completely override the altar boost, making them actually less XP than normal there.
OFF of DXP hefin prayer is like 9-10gp/xp depending on vos or whatever.
ON it's half that.
Not sure which is actually faster though. I haven't done but vyres for prayer in ages.
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new bread when

nobody wants to post in a stale bread
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>>240782097
19 posts early for that
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1-9 decides what shit skill I have to work on next.
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>>240782764
Thank fuck.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4G8IlNYgws
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wake
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>>240785304
its bedtime
>735
dont forget to new ded
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>can now make more money afking in my personal slayer dungeon than actively doing QBD
based
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>>240758824
grats anon. i remember i got one like 10 years ago from them. shit was cash. literally. it was worth 60m back then.
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>>240788548
Gargoyles?
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>>240789083
garGOYles?*
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>>240789271
Are you factoring in spring cost or if not using cleaner are you factoring in time spent alching
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>>240788832
found the old screenshot
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>>240789404
not him, but springs are like 1k each
small adamant salvages alch for 4k
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>>240789404
not him but my money pit is spirit mages
and all costs inclusive it can be afk'd for 5m/h
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>>240789486
1 adamant drop every 4 kills
only critter i know that shits out that much addy is abyssals and you get more spawns in kuradels than the menaphos dungeon
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>>240789572
picking up super pots is a pain in the ass even with p2w pet though

anyone know if the rs3 mobile beta is account bound (with a key etc) or did they just not publicly release the apk?
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>>240789572
my money pits are bosses, elite dungeons and clue scrolls. all of which net 10+m per hour. also merching which is afk and takes a few minutes a day for a few mil per day minimum
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>>240789836
>1 adamant drop every 4 kills
well if it doesn't drop anything dismantable on the other 3 kills, it won't use a spring
so what's your point?
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>>240789941
b-but they dont drop super pots
>>240789991
cant afk clues or ED though, we were trying to figure out what anon has in his player owned dungeon thats more profitable than qbd
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>>240789486
>but springs are like 1k each
In what universe are they 1k each?
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>>240789941
they just didn't realease the apk publically
but you can find it if you know where to look
>>240790323
the universe where you make them with invention instead of buying from the GE
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>>240790209
for the best overall profit per hour, manifest shadow creatures are the best monster to afk for profit in your slayer dungeon since they drop anywhere from 5-12 elite clues per hour.
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>>240790209
i didn't read and thought u said spiritual warriors. guess i have to make a mage rape arena instead.
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>>240790986
>>240790986
>>240790986
THE NEW
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>>240790607
well i mean warriors are roughly the same profit wise and you could use area loot for the supers since melee mobs have to come to you



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