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No Muscles Allowed Edition.

Previous Thread: >>240046875

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dedicate your life to flexing on betas
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https://twitter.com/Gm7_C7_F7/status/1081914019554910208

do any shmups allow you to parry like in 3rd strike? a temporary shield that allows parrying would be interesting.
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>>240319893
i mean not like a parry but karous and radirgy have shield mechanics you have to use, in karous when it's levelled past 50 the shield turns bullets into bullets back where they came from kinda like giga wing ish
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>"so there I was buying the new M2 Dad-dad-pachi Day-Job-You Flex-Label and this guy comes up and starts ranting about how gym muscle aren't real and girls are turned off by them....apparently speed > strength
>O_O
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>>240321629
>so after getting bullied at school and getting no puss i turned to weights but now im a bloated sluggish mutant who needs to check the mirror for confidence

>at least now i get girls like you though who look like actual men.
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My back is completely fucked, I can't sit or stand for more than 30 minutes without feeling intense pain and discomfort. I tried the sport meme and it didn't help. Wat do
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>>240322382
you shouldnt be doing sport if you have a bad back retard, you need to heal first. You need to focus on posture, sit dead straight in chairs, stand back against wall and press it flat, don't hunch shoulders etc, when healed start some light stomach strengthening and some stretching.

you need to see a doctor though sometimes serious back pain can be something more serious like a tumour etc, not trying to make you worry but get yourself checked.
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>p-please stop lifting weights, you will look like a m-mutant!
>dumb jocks and their big biceps and abs! argh! at least I have my vidya
t. onions
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>>240322768
who is this though? i told you this doesn't apply and yet you're still ranting on about it, incapable of basic differentials.

yawn desu
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>>240322840
>instantly gets defensive and insecure around fit guys
>has to protect his ego by attacking them
>is too insecure to even step foot in a gym to make gains, yet makes hasty generalizations about those who lift
This is you.
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>>240323110
But i am a healthy fit guy with a life long list of sporting achievements and i didn't need to go to a fucking gym lmfao to do it, they are literally for narcissistic losers who need to compete with BROS and win other dense thots


You came here today and brought it all back up again, that's WEAKness like a woman would do, guess i really got into your head huh? i got to you, the truth always does.
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>>240323315
>[gyms] are literally for narcissistic losers who need to compete with BROS and win other dense thots
Every serious athlete and amateur athlete should be hitting the gym to improve his game, no exceptions. And if you have no physical game/sport then you should at least hit the gym to stay in shape and get strong, and aging related problems. Every man should be lifting weights somehow, getting stronger, either at a home gym or actual gym. Why not?

2. Wanting to improve yourself physically, your looks, strength and health is not narcissistic, narcissism happens when you fall in love with yourself to the point of being a douche to others, [ [thinking you are better than you actually are]. This can happen in any endeavor or sport, even in video games or art, just depends on the person. You can be a humble lifter or a douche lifter, it's up to the person.

3. Getting big and strong will help you with thots, but also with regular decent girls. Girls are attracted to status, and being fit and strong and good looking are very obvious initial status signals. And even if you're married and old you should still be lifting regularly in a gym or home gym. What's the excuse? lmao. If you say "Oh I just bike and do judo" then that's even more reason to hit the gym, all sports benefit from further strength development, endurance and conditioning gained in the gym.
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Damn why is Battle Circuit so fun? The combos flow so well and it's super aesthetic.
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>>240324919
>Watching BC superplay
>anon uses a FILTER
filters should be illegal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dx2S07qTxo
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>>240325031
wait is that a filter or am I just seeing extra smooth for some reason?
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unlike other speedtyrannies which are aggressive damdam is a cool guy desu
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>>240324273
LIVING IN YOUR HEAD RENT FREE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIs5StN8J-0

why do you keep proving and even repeating points i already made? fuck the gym dude you need reading lessons. You read like a tragic salesman repeating garbo he got from youtube gym propagandists looking for business and now you need to reinforce it to yourself.

You haven't understood my position at all because you are fucking cunt dumb, im not replying to your weak female brain anymore.

fyi i DID do weights during my bmx years but i didnt go to a fucknig ass huff gym nor did i try to build disco muscles and thats the whole thing you aren't getting the fucking difference you meat head fuck. You have literally no personality, just a fucking walking billboard.

Keep proving you are controlled by the primitive desire to be attractive to females because you were the dork at school and now its completely controls you, i've never factored a womens concerns into any aspect of my decision making or goals because thats beta faggot shit you absolute loser and product of marketing culture. Now shut your fucking cunt up and ask yourself why i've bothered you so much you've come back a day later intent on bringing it up again? is it to prove something to me or to prove and convince yourself?

you're transparent and deeply insecure about yourself and thats why you're OBSESSED eiyh the gym, most betas are.

>>240324919
It gets annoying fast imo, the coin milking method is just to focused and makes you abuse same moves too much and some other things irk me, it is good though but most of the chars are completely stupid.
>>240325431
it's not a tranny thing imo its a nation thing, americans are the problem because in case you didn't know marxism/leftism flourishes in the ashes of Christianity (many similarities if you look into it) and as the u.s is much more religious historically it leads to greater level of radical fuelled by incomparable self righteousness.
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>>240325582
>why do you keep proving and even repeating points i already made? fuck the gym dude you need reading lessons. You read like a tragic salesman repeating garbo he got from youtube gym...You haven't understood my position at all because you are fucking cunt dumb, im not replying to your weak female brain anymore.
I addressed and refuted every one of your points. You assumed everyone who lifts in a gym to build muscle is some vain jersey-shore type douche who wants to score thots 24/7. Hasty generalization. It's like me saying everyone who plays shmups or speedruns competitively is a mentally ill tranny, a raging incel or sjw, because I've seen plenty of them in the community. This is a hasty generalization.

>fyi i DID do weights during my bmx years but i didnt go to a fucknig ass huff gym nor did i try to build disco muscles and thats the whole thing you aren't getting the fucking difference you meat head fuck. You have literally no personality, just a fucking walking billboard.
>fucking ass huff gym disco muscles...no personality...meat head
So you're talking the vain douchebags who lift to get sluts at clubs? Ya okay. Those guys exist, why do you assume every guy who lifts is like that? And why do you get mad at "Gyms" themselves? A gym is what you make of it. You're illogical and the amount of rage and vitriol you have says something about your own level of security. I don't like those guys either but I don't care enough to rage at them lmao

>Keep proving you are controlled by the primitive desire to be attractive to females because you were the dork at school and now its completely controls you, i've never factored a womens concerns into any aspect of my decision making or goals.....beta shit you absolute loser and....blablabla
More incoherent drivel based on nothing but projections and empty assumptions. I already have a fiance, do you? I lift for a bunch of reasons, maintaing a nice looking physique is just one factor, not the most important.
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>>240325582
>It gets annoying fast imo, the coin milking method is just to focused and makes you abuse same moves too much and some other things irk me, it is good though but most of the chars are completely stupid
get good scrub.

>abusing the same moves too much
welcome to bmups
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>>240325582
>It gets annoying fast imo, the coin milking method is just to focused and makes you abuse same moves too much and some other things irk me
then don't abuse those moves or that method, simple. go watch top level speedruns or no death runs, they don't just milk the same moves constantly, lots of variety.
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>>240326369
No you didn't you misunderstood and ranted on.

Think about this why are you even bringing this up AGAIN? if what i say is nonsense and doesn't apply then why are you so bothered by it you have to come preaching?

If you were really a strong alpha character you wouldn't even care what anyone thought and would locked on to your goals not here preaching like soundbytes from every gym advert BRO youtuber ever.


>I already have a fiance, do you?
And we all know who wears the trousers in that relationship and good heavens no, thats not for me at all i've got too much of greater personal importance to do.

Just remember it's you here desperate to prove something, not me, you're welcome to stop talking about it at any time because what do you care what i think? if it isn't true?

weird huh?
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>>240326730
what? i have watched them and they do lmao, it has less variety than most capcom bmups and very limited movesets for a 1997 game.
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>>240326369
btw just to finish don't you think its proving that you posted a wow pic of some clearly weak person with big biceps who looks gay and after i said anything you decided it was aimed at you?

that's literally being insecure.
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>>240327174
I asked why you reacted like that just form seeing a bicep, and you proceeded to make baseless, hasty generalizations, attacking anyone who lifts, and even attacking gyms themselves. You're rage wasn't just directed at people who want to increase their muscle mass but also at buildings and weights, lmao

>>240326790
Brought it up for some quick lulz, but you continued sounding like a broken record, repeating the same nonsense.
Hope you learned something. And ya, go hit the gym. It's basically a manly duty to not look like a skeleton or a fat blob.
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>>240327534
You are just too dumb for it so why bother? The big issue here is you don't get AT ALL what i mean by disco muscles and think it means all weight lifting, i've failed to explain to you the difference before so im not trying again.

I completely agree about self responsibility and keep in shape yet you're such a thick cunt you can't get the nuance of the argument.

I'll assume you're american for obvious unfortunate reasons.

>>240327534
>Brought it up for some quick lulz
of course you did bruv.

You're a basic bitch and easily one of the dumbest fucks here since mad max discarding everything you don't like with "hurr u need meds" and "hurr gibberish".

and you're STILL proving me right by STILL going on about it lmfao.

I got you because you're insecure and weak.
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>>240327796
>you don't get the nuance of my refined arguments I wasn't talking about all gyms and all lifters...
You just suck at expressing yourself. Blinded by rage for some reason and full of gibberish. For example, here's a refined statement of yours

" i didn't need to go to a fucking gym lmfao to do it, they are literally for narcissistic losers who need to compete with BROS and win other dense thots"

You're attacking gyms themselves, gym goers. You rode a bicycle and you didn't need to "go to a gym" because "insert stereotypes about gym goers".

Come on bruv, I can't read your mind, just your poorly worded gibberish.


Here's another great argument that distinguishes gym goers clearly....errr:

"t i didnt go to a fucknig ass huff gym nor did i try to build disco muscles and thats the whole thing you aren't getting the fucking difference you meat head fuck. You have literally no personality, just a fucking walking billboard."

and

"Keep proving you are controlled by the primitive desire to be attractive to females because you were the dork at school and now its completely controls you, i've never factored a womens concerns into any aspect of my decision making or goals.....beta shit you absolute loser and....blablabla"

Insults. Ad hominem. And hasty generalizations. No logic or sense whatsoever.
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>>240328179
haha of course the narcissist on display, it's everyone else's fault but my own!

Keep going, i got you.
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>>240328318
I just want whats best for you, now go hit the gym so you stop having twig arms and a pencil neck or double chin, whatever is the case.
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>>240328796
STILL GOING

You see folks the narcissist is crippled by feelings of inferiority and a desperate need to prove himself and to think this guy has a "fiance" yet he's here obsessed with what i some anon thinks. The compulsion is such he just can't stop after it played on his mind over and over so much he came here today desperate to start again.

sad.
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>not watching agdq
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wtf is this thread
better leave this place forever
fuck you niggers
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>>240331537
>they have this soundtrack in the background
NICE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCPgPENPT7w
Why do they put music from stuff the Nintensoi jarpig audience has never and will never play?
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>>240331929
mike uyama ran that game at a gdq before, maybe in the awful games done quick segment kek
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>>240332756
>awful
state, it beats the crap out of most of what they play even if it isn't that great for sure
And yes, I do remember that run, one of the few I've watched
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>>240327796
>ou're a basic bitch and easily one of the dumbest fucks here since mad max discarding everything you don't like with "hurr u need meds" and "hurr gibberish".
this is mad max
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>>240332865
they had shinobi x on saturn in awful aswell and that games tight as fuck maybe my fav in the series. of course all they could criticize was LOL ZE DATED GRAFIX
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>>240333168
There's a pattern of challenging console games being considered awful by this audience
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chav absolutely DESTROYED on the farm once again

>The funny thing though is you being shit at the game yourself and still acting all elitist about it.

R E K T
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Holy shit it actually was in the awful games section...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz1nbbyS8O4
Fuck these queer elves
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reminder
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>>240333840
i told you.
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>>240333909
why don't you look like that then cranon
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any bmups worth playing for points? does anyone even do that?
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>>240334162
of course
if you're not high t enough to play for points you can always speed run
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>>240333818
of course it's another fucking germong lmfao.

>>240333909
cranon heres the problem, it's not the penis thing or the meat sakc titties thing, it's the looking like eddie munster thing.


>>240334162
only retarded japs do it, speak to clast he played sailor moon for score but most are wank. battle circuits probs best because score is tied to speed anyway you get s rank n shit with certain time limits.
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>>240333909
>low-test twink
>ideal
damn agdq fags infiltrating
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>>240334162
how much is thot juice?
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>>240334474
>of course it's another fucking germong lmfao.
The NPC nation
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why shmupg hasn't done this?

>(1) Personal Favourite Achievements of 2018
>(2) Personal Biggest Screw-ups of 2018
>(3) Favourite Achievements by Others of 2018
>(4) Goals for 2019
>(BONUS) CHALLENGES TO OTHER PLAYERS
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>>240336286
you first
I hate to answer no 3 btw
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>>240336286
i did but more for us ie best shmupg moments of 2018 which is open to include any of that stuff.
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>>240336286
1. Sonic Wings 2-ALL with Kohful
2. A call screwing over my best Sengoku Ace run up to that point which made me stop streaming it, and also to not play it again until a few days later.
3. Mad Max figuring out that DOJBL doesn't have an autobomb, that must have took some serious brainpower for a hardcore jarpig
4. Probably Sonic Wings 2 and/or Strikers 1945 Plus 2-ALLs
5. I challenge Kraut to stop SEETHING
5.
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>pop into agdq stream
>they're playing saturday morning disney cartoons on the nes
absolute state
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lads...
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^
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>>240336286
>>(1) Personal Favourite Achievements of 2018
dunno, good bmup runs i guess and breaking 3 bill in propinball timeshock ultra
>>(2) Personal Biggest Screw-ups of 2018
playing any shmup
>>(3) Favourite Achievements by Others of 2018
krauts quest for 50 mill, ambs/sers metal black, clasts general dominance of all things game etc
>>(4) Goals for 2019
provide more entertainment through the medium of argument
>>(BONUS) CHALLENGES TO OTHER PLAYERS
clast needs to re-do all his capcom clears on hardest and then go for no misses in ones he likes, maybe explore other chars some more and become a more aggressive player.

ricky needs to clear a bmup to

kraut needs to keep going with guwange

infirex needs to clear crimzon clover unlimited

and i challenge EVERYONE to go for battle traverse very hard clear which is a perfect 1 loop mode.
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>>240344262
>ricky needs to clear a bmup to
I'll give Punisher a chance one of these days
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>>240345959
either that or king of dragons is worth a look in for a newb first clear
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Whatever happened to that one fag who was saying how beat em ups were right up his alley and that he'd 1cc them unlike shmups? Haven't heard a word about his clears since
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>>240347708
I think it's the Gradius III quitter fag and he was in the previous thread.
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>>240347708
i predict failure
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>Super Autoscrolling and Slowdown gets played just because it came out for the SNES
>Not the two arcade classics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpDqAPc031o
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>>240349213
>pinned channel video literally starts with them booting up a super soitendo
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>>240349213
tbf aqy played arcade at last years
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>>240349579
Super has gotten played a lot more though
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>>240350380
no doubt, nintendonuts are basically radicals about that shit, obv cus it provided hedonism during their bullied at school phase
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It's in boys, one of the main eternally assblasted guys that shits on shmups on /vr/ is a collector from the farm >>>/vr/5281873
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUIcCyPOA30
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>>240352705
The Beatles didn't contribute much, they just popularized some stuff
ZUN's music sucks
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how do i stop getting nervous when trying to 1cc a game? it's pissing me off, can't even clear the easiest shit games
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>>240354562
idk m8 happens to me too. maybe taking deep breathes will help lol
>can't even clear the easiest shit games
What games have you tried?
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Jesus fucking Christ (pun not intended) STATE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQY8L0h-8js
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>>240354750
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>>240354562
Nervousness is a natural part of these challenges and what makes getting or failing a clear so exciting. Though the only way to get rid of it is to feel like you can do it instead of feeling like your run was a fluke, which basically boils down to failing near the end enough times.
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>>240351487
lmao everytime
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>>240355649
He's on a crusade to troll our community because it hurt his feefees back then or some shit. It's honestly a sad sight.
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>several threads dedicated to shitting on shmups with hundreds of replies
>then this happens
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/S5282036
And no, I didn't do this, it was in fact done by one of them to try to show the bias thing was a myth.
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>>240358175
lmfao that op
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>>240358175
leftists and double standards, amazing
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>>240358175
>>240359093
>>240359370
>why do they persecute me so? we dindu nuffin
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>>240358175
>>240359370
There was an anti-shmup thread a few hours ago, and it almost immediately got deleted.
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>>240359569
Proof: https://desuarchive.org/vr/thread/5280009/
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>>240359569
>>240359891
Interesting, although there are several still up. What happens is that they hijack shmup threads with legit OPs to have an excuse to shit on them. And right now there's a clone of this one up, but about shmups instead.
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>Thread about shitting on shmups reached bump limit in less than a week on fucking /vr/
Absolute STATE
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>>240358175
>tfw I was the one who made that thread
I-I didn't want to believe it...I guess I thought too highly of the mods over there.
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>>240361303
>I didn't want to believe
Why? I know it sounds insane but we didn't say the situation was that shitty for nothing.
>thinking highly of mods ever
lmao
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>>240361558
I even made the thread that has like 500+ replies asking what's wrong with shmups over there. I guess /vr/ is almost as cancerous as /v/, either that or shmup players are easier to bait.
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>>240361303
>>>/vr/5282264
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>>240333168
It was probably put under awful because of the corny unskippable cutscenes. Also yeah Shinobi X is underrated but I liked Revenge a bit more. X is certainly better than III which is the Shinobi game everyone jacks off to despite being extremely easy and full of boring autoscrollers.
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>>240362051
/vr/ is just a slightly less soi resetera at this point

>>240362069
There are people straight up saying they're trolling/shitposting in their posts but they get to do it because they're on the side of jarpigs
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was that gus who btfo the chav in the gym argument?
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>>240362493
did you play pal ie x not legions?? the soundtrack is god tier over the shite yank one.

https://youtu.be/fW-Wryz8fts?list=PLPUo0QpZ70zsoVp8A3H_QvkvCpNQmgGxd
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>>240362493
>bad cutscenes = bad game
>hard = bad (regarding sub-terrania)
state of GDQ
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>>240362997
why do you think that?
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Check the popcorn enemies after like the first half of the first loop, nice (scoring replay by Project Gay-Ko)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEtRBybEL48
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what you play
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>>240362997
only thing gus can btfo is his dog's anus
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>>240365898
I tried Unreal a bit lately for a change and while it's OK it hasn't exactly clicked either. Usual disappointment that happens every time I give non-arcade games a chance, even ones more gameplay-focused like this.
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>>240366462
I mean this is what happens to me lately (for some years now)
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>>240366627
same, i see games and think i'll try it and always get bored mega fast and go back to cade games
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>chav got the last word in before this
lmfao farmdads on suicide watch!
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>>240367078
they were on suicide watch the moment i pointed out a simple fact and they all went into defence mode, why the fuck does everyone want a sequel to guwange when not a single one of them even has 10 mill in guwange? and why does cum farts trap and the gang interpret this as HUR ELITIST U THINK EVERYONE SHUD BE WR LEVEL!

fucking retards tbqh but i guess you'd have to be to collect stupid shit.
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>>240367381
This fact was already pointed out like 10 years ago in the legendary GO PLAY MARS MATRIX video.
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>>240367381
>brap conveniently leaving out the commiefornia slam and gay sex part when replying to you
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>>240367589
i know and i said so in the thread that "xoxak was right" yet here we are the same threads and the same shit lmao. Back then though it was even funnier, the thread was "if you had a million dollars theoretically to give to cave to make a new game what would you want made?" same thing fundamentally.

>>240367663
he can't bare to face it, why do you think he's got shelves filled with sexualized anime figurines? he's in denial about being a pong dipper.
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For those unaware:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbts2qTrbAg
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>I don't fantasize about donating a million dollars I don't have to Cave so the keep on making new games that they already make, like, I'll give a few million dollars to make Guwange 2. I already suck at Guwange, but, give me another one to suck at. That's shmups forum basically for you.
Uploaded August 2nd, 2008. Since then the only thing that has changed in this statement is that Cave no longer makes arcade shmups, otherwise things haven't changed at all as you can see in that new thread.
Based Xoxak exposing that they only want new sick grabs.
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>>240368310
says retardo who's played for decades and is worse than the average farmdad LMFAO
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>>240368463
Even if this was true at least I'm not wasting my money on games I'll barely if at all play, ever.
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when are those sega usb saturn/mega drive pads coming out?
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>>240362997
Nah its the resident rpgfag whos shitposting on /vr/
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>>240319582
That's some ftm transition
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>>240369539
>jarpig
>lifting
doubt.
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>>240366462
Unreal or UT? Original Unreal is crap, early "atmospheric" game with barren levels and spongy enemies. Play Blood instead. UT is awesome tho.
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>>240369539
>>240369893
The shitposter is a resentful ex-shmup fan from the farm who couldn't fit in because he's too casual (he doesn't even 1CC)

>>240369951
Unreal. I played UT against bots quite a bit back in the day. I see what you mean, Unreal has some light early shit elements, but it's not as bad as you make it out to be in that sense, it's still quite gamey.
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>>240367663
no point replying to dumb ad hominem bullshit, I'd guess
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>>240370984
t. brappu
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>>240369951
I thought you left kraut. Anyway Blood sucks because too many gay hitscan enemies, shame because the atmosphere and weapons variety are top notch.
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>>240371484
Not him, I'm the Unreal guy. Hitscan is one of my least favorite aspects of FPS games. It's shit born from realism that doesn't translate to fun gameplay, just tanking hits.
Speaking of which even if it's not hitscan related, one of the shittier parts of Unreal was the first encounter against the Predator-looking enemies; the one where the lights are out for a bit. You have to fight against it in a very small corridor with no room to dodge, I didn't figure out a way to avoid damage, seemed like the usual JUST TANK BECAUSE YOU HAVE A LOT OF HEALTH LOL which is the bullshit you see in euroshmups too.
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Cee, you seen these cyber athletes? There's so much wall slamming I mistook it for F-Zero

https://youtu.be/haFYMXQI5FI?t=2172
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>>240372026
>There's so much wall slamming I mistook it for F-Zero
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>>240371484
You can avoid a lot of damage by crouching and good movement since their ranges are limited like in Douk, and tommygun or shotgun primary fire have a lot of hitstun for getting close. Deathwish tones down the amount of hitscan cultists and puts more of the plasma ones in too so you can look into that. Hitscan is shit don't get me wrong, but it's the only game where it doesn't ruin anything for me.
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F-Zero is not a racing game series, it's an Any% Glitched one.
In fact the games have several categories for time attack leaderboards depending on how many glitches are allowed.
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>>240371810
Western game design in a nutshell. Good fps and tps almost seem like they were made on accident.
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>>240372683
I mean fan leaderboards of course, the games don't have online official leaderboards
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>>240372683
Still the best thing nintendo ever produced
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F-Zero GX has three ladders:
One that's a free for all in which you can fly around the starting line and call it a day
Another one where some glitches are removed and snaking (which is intentional) reigns
And another one where snaking is also banned
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>>240373186
Probably, and yet they've abandoned the series in favor of only making Soi Kart. Hell, the most popular F-Zero game is actually developed by Sega and had an arcade counterpart...
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>>240373274
>when your game's so poorly designed fans have to ban most mechanics to make it fun
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>h-he can't get away with this!! ;~;
SEETHING
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>>240374047
Even the one with the most bans still has tons of glitches
Example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4adtE2_gC4
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>>240374086
xyga is absolutely SEETHING here
absolutely faguette
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Rolled up my candy colored thigh highs, put on some make up, wear some mascara, cute frilly skirt and now I'm ready to play some Shmups.
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>>240374160
For those unable to see them, a few examples:
1. You get some acceleration by going outside the racing area, don't remember if random or not (as if you were going to fall) when you return without falling. 0:07
2. Above certain speed threshold it's actually faster to stop holding the acceleration button because that decreases the deceleration rate for some retarded reason. 0:09 (check how the white blasts at the back of the machine disappear? That's because acceleration is not being held for that duration)
3: Mashing (we're talking MASHING) the attack button (which is used to hit enemies in modes that aren't time attack) in the air gives you a random speed boost. I know, stupid. 0:25
4. At the end it's better to get hit against the wall to gain some speed. Nerfed from X where it's insane so only doable at the end and not at the start to accelerate. 1:20
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>>240375316
based cranon
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>>240374160
Yeah I top speed is the style I tried out and it's still a mess. How are the GBA games in terms of dumb glitches?
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>>240375585
I've only played the 3D ones to any actual degree, the 2D ones seem far less glitchy though more boring too.
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>>240375726
That's what I figured, the first game is mind numbing but I was hoping the other 2D ones would be better. But that does sound accurate, once you take out all the weird mechanics and glitches, F-Zero's handling and tracks are pretty crap, they make the games
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>>240375316
stream it dude, wud follow
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>>240376903
cranon's voice will haunt your nightmares
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42HKcdsmt1s
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Oh boy shmucksfags got anally devasted on /vr/ today.
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I decided to play the second loop of Hishou Zame today and I had this dumb idea
https://streamable.com/jt2gh
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>>240380587
I'm dumb, what's the highlight?
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>>240381060
Gameplay-wise nothing, it's just the matching of the music with the game.
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>>240381254
oh, I didn't put my headphone, dafuk
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is that your playlist achmed?
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>>240381491
lmao
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>>240381646
This post really made me laugh out loud
It's 13:40 here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNF-01p8SE0
I find these cheesy war songs funnily fitting with these militaristic shmups.
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>>240380587
fucking YIKES
rather listen to gay jpop
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>>240381872
Let me rephrase that because I'm not that satisfied:
I find how these cheesy war songs fit these militaristic shmups to be funny.
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>>240382696
t. clast
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>>240380587
REMOVE JARPIG
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if retardo spent half as much time playing games as he does machine gun spamming vr hed be able to 1cc more than street fighter
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>>240384952
Do you actually think that spam was by me? Because it wasn't lmao
From what I've seen I think the regulars there that like shmups a bit are getting really fed up of the jarpig raids since they never stop, they are eternally assblasted after all.
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>>240384952
>>240385243
Example >>>/vr/5276313
This OP is clearly a legit /vr/ guy, kinda clueless though humble and honest, he seems to like these.
Yet he's still raided by the eternally seething manginas just because it's a shmup thread.
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>>240385849
Yeah shit like this for months, no wonder some get tired of it.
A silly revenge act that never ends.
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>>240385849
tbf it just seems to be one jarpig, even the rest of the thread seems to be shitting on him.
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>>240386372
That's true, at least lately it seems to be one main guy having a meltdown.
But it's not even a jarpig, at least not necessarily
>>240351487
>>240356057
>>240370881
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cuntz
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>>240388897
cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz cun tz
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Hellsinker isn't displaying level backgrounds, what do? Although it's a pretty interesting atmosphere to have just a void of black
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>>240389749
Cho Ren Sha's now THOSE are backgrounds
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In The Cunt, NOW that's a non-autoscrolling shumps
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Reminder if there was a shmup that was the most brilliant shmup ever conceived mechanically, but it was about a child rapist and tardo wouldn't play it, then he's a hypocrite
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>>240392495
I never dismiss shmups based on whatever silly story or aesthetics it has so if it was good I'd have no problem. Besides, it'd be fiction, not an actual Kinder Bueno
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>>240392941
aesthetics they have*
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>>240392941
Oh then you wouldn't have a problem discussing UFO, the touhou game. Surely you've played it and have some thoughts on it's interesting mechanics?
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>>240393950
The only Touhou I played waaaay back was 6 and not much since I didn't like it much. Nothing against the game gameplay-wise, just not my cup of tea. I've seen a fair bit of the series because my ex played them and I saw her 1CC attempts.
Right now I wouldn't be able to give it a chance even if I wanted to due to keyboard ghosting issues, and I would consider giving it a chance.
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>>240394420
6 is pretty shit but it spawned the most memes so it's still considered good sadly. At least you're willing to give UFO a go
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>>240394691
I mean, why wouldn't I? Would be strange for me to be so open about not dismissing shmups based on shallow visual shit only to do it myself.
Some months ago I tried to play eXceed3rd Jade Penetrate, installed some keyboard rebind crap but it just doesn't work. Same with Steam Mushi.
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Speaking of which, eXceed3rd Jade Penetrate was a personal recommendation by a friend based on my tastes. It seemed interesting due to being a faster paced bullet hell (that's my issue with Touhou, being a tad too slow for my tastes, but this happens with R-Type too and that's neither bullet hell nor loli shit). I can't recommend this game since I haven't played it, but if that sounds appealing to you, you should probably check it out. Apparently the Black Package version is slower.
Best doujin I've played is Cho Ren Sha easily, but I can't play that either now, I did on another computer back then.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDOP5Xg8XDg
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>>240396307
>loli shit
Doesn't affect mechanics, why bring it up?
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>>240396701
I actually dislike the music of the game quite a bit, I find it shrill and annoying. It also has the same repeated background over and over. Yet it's a fun time.

>>240396890
Precisely to make that point, that it doesn't matter to me.
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>>240369539
>>240369539
This is correct. But I'm cross training shmups and bmups too, in between my squat sessions.
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>>240398176
What's your farm nick?
Weren't you a casual player who didn't even 1CC? Training for what?
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>>240398176
Same, in between hard sessions at the gym and fucking 18 women at once I find time to get all the WRs
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>>240396307
Black Package version is pretty much a different game. Rocking soundtrack for longhairs
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>>240399203
It also has the gayest name for a game ever, only rivaled by the musical artist D-Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY1RvCU0rII
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>>240400343
Does it have a section for HRT?
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Alright then.
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You literally cannot argue that it's bad to fuck children without resorting to muh feefees bullshit
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>>240404212
It creates a lasting trauma on the kids which is unarguably bad for them. Why would you find dumb, infertile little children attractive anyway unless you're severely fucked up yourself.
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>>240404474
>Muh feefees liberal bullshit
Try again snowflake
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>>240404879
I didn't mention anything about feelings but OK (it's mostly biological / factual stuff)
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>cave retweeted this
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where the new replays at
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>it's been almost 10 years since xoxak's last video
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>>240374086
lmao at trap, i made a simple observation and it was them who got mega defensive and upset, i just responded to it.

They really really hate the truth i mean brap17 can't even admit he's fucking gay lmao.
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>>240372026
didn't catch it, first dudes good though,i kinda regret selling my cart now, wipeout 64 is really underated.
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>>240404212
t. Inbred muslim
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>>240415171
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wtf is feefees? benis?
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chav did you remove your last post on farm? afraid of being banned or what?
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>>240420039
nope, must of been purged.
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ahhhh yes of course, im the one in the wrong lmao.
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finally got my net fixed lads, what a bunch of useless cunts BT are, so after going about with a bunch of technicians and phone staff my original assessment was right and it was some retard work going on nearby so BT capped the fucking line but never put it back.

im still not watching trannies done quick though
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chav seething
new account when?
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>>240423886
when i feel like telling them the truth again and calling brap what he is a disingenuous sad reality denier with an identity crisis who hides behind ridiculous ideology and sick grabs whilst pretending he's not gay after literally fucking cranons mud crease.
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>>240424170
>fucking cranons mud crease
implying you wouldn't
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>>240425204
at best cranon i would walk you around the house on a lead and tap your ball bag from a 6 foot distance with a cane, that's my limit.
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is brap14 still creaming cream's crack though
I thought it was saph turn now
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>>240426749
are you implying traps not gay anymore because he stopped plunging creams bunghole?
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>memerunning a puzzle game
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>>240428353
>failed 1cc
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lmaooo arcade player on agdq

he's complete shit.

everytime.
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>>240428353
>>240428434
He's on his 5th credit I believe, this is complete dog fuku
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What a scrub, I expected precise bubble replacement desu
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the state of the memerunning
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>>240429196
he will blame nerves and the tv
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so now i got net back has there been ANY runs worth checking the archive for so far?
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>>240430985
>identifies problem
>still asks for solution
? just tell the smelly cunts to go wash oh wait no i forgot with these dorks its more important to "be nice"
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bros...
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>>240436116
it's almost as if the extremely low self esteemed stop caring about themselves......

IMAJIN MAH SHAWK
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does anyone else have games shops with the exact same issue locally? my local games shop smells like a wanked in school sock.
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>games shops
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instead of sick grabbing that nintendo power glove, you should invest your money in a years supply of dove
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>>240436749
Hope that other box on the side is full of replacement batteries. The save battery for Gold/Silver has a notoriously short lifespan (mine died like ten years ago) due to the day/time-keeping feature. You either open the cartridge and replace the battery, or start the game over every time you turn it off. Which, incidentally, locks out the postgame because the game resets automatically after the Elite Four.

It's... unique to see such a box full of Pokemon Gold cartridges, but I can't imagine why someone would own this.
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>>240438991
fuck off jarpig
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>>240438991
>but I can't imagine why someone would own this.
for sick grab upvotes on social media
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>>240439141
not sure if dumb retardo troll or actually dumb retardo
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>>240439695
it's a false flag you idiot. ricky uses caps and is on good terms with harry.
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>>240439959
>good terms with harry
gay
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clast do one more ketsui stream so i can watch you get another wr now my nets back with the GAME OST
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i can't believe yotsuba is fucking dead...
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>>240322102
so much fucking cope
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>>240445251
who?
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>>240446194
crimzoncloverman
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>>240442542
>with the GAME OST
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Clast you like mass of the fermenting dregs? Or just idol poop?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaTx9unXjLs
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>>240439695
I'd never call someone who's gotten good at Deathsmiles a jarpig
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>>240447857
i've only listened to that album a couple times but that is a good song. i listen to non idol stuff sometimes. eg:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qWnHbvbmAo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLaN5FBZzxU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCptXx2guVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C33OhMOzbew
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onUAiP3VU1s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejOQXkxPBxs
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>>240448593
Also, he doesn't spam anti-skill bullshit.
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>>240446336
wat? he died?

>>240449558
>but that is a good song.
>delusionism

>>240447445
yes please, your music is shit.
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>>240450254
>wat? he died?
he just got a sengoku ace wr
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>>240448593
>good
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>>240451998
Far better than thinking DOJ BL has an autobomb, for instance, which is the jarpig tier.
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>>240451926
Why is cranon so obsessed with expand dong?
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annk 10 years ago
https://youtu.be/SOJJf_zoPDs
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnoN-GxNBbU
look at all the sick grabs you can get with wwe paychecks
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Which touhou would you fuck?
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>>240453351
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i practiced some keksui improvements so i will stream some more attempts, with excellent music as requested
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>>240453351
reemu
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>>240458737
who is this qt
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>>240459214
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TAKE A SHOWER
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Stoopid 720/1080p + 60fps streams, can't watch dent's comfy ketsui flails on my machine
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>>240461087
amb on suicide watch
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Oh my tranny boipussy is getting all soaked up
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>>240462467
>pc never ever
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Best shmup OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNF-01p8SE0
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>>240459548
kek, this.

>>240462467
>>240463283
it's fun when the guys get together to play in fancy dress
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>Meet woman
>Tell her about my sick DDP BL grabs and WRs
>She laughs as she walks off
>Meet another woman
>Simply say I play Hellsinker
>Fucks me then and there, along with every woman on earth
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>>240336286
1. Not playing shmups.
2. Playing shmups.
3. Everyone who managed to quit.
4. Continue not to play shmups.
5. Try to have a good time.
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>>240436116
so THAT'S where that whole "take a shower" meme came from
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>>240465008
What do you play then and why are you here
And how is quitting shmups an achievement when most people don't touch them
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Has there been a /2hug/ spill or something
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>>240466461
nah creams just tipsy
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>tfw you bork a wr run because shit j-pop took your attention for a second.
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>Tfw you have all the WRs but can't be bothered uploading them
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El Harry
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpElzhOJ0PM
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>tfw you don't play for WR's because jaimers could get them all if he really wanted to
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>>240471615
>tf
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Got cucked by the stage 5 boss and accidently grabbed ground laser power up but still managed to get the clear/1all. Could have been a 600k+ top 10 score though. fug
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>>240474076
rytpe stream when?
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>>240474076
Can you explain what this Lives thing is?
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>>240474415
this, amb pls
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>>240474404
I was streaming but didn't post the link. Replay:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/361468173

>>240474415
'Infinite mode' gives you infinite lives, instant respawn and when you die you'll just power down. A 1-loop scrub mode basically.
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>>240475385
Why the fuck is that mode in the same leaderboard
I love how they had to make R-Type a shmup where you can infinitely continue without real consequences just like many later arcade ones in this version lmao
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>>240475385
so it's saying you used no lives whilst some dadshit faggot used 28?
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>>240475385
Well that's dumb. Is there a proper leaderboard/filter showing only 1 credit scores?
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is the top ten just as bad?? show us a screen shot of that so we can determine your true ranking
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>>240475631
Ye, it's retarded but at least they have a seperate leaderboard for the 'Classic mode'. https://steamcommunity.com/stats/928390/leaderboards/3004931/
It's just to attract casuals so they won't be discouraged by the harsh checkpoint system.

>>240475650
It's much harder to score when you're powered down and you can't milk anything since checkpoints are disabled, but yea it's still really stupid to put those in the same leaderboard.
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>>240454738
>excellent
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>>240461087
but partnered channel have lower resolution option, or it doesn't always available?
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>>240470125
You have to use Casper to get his attention
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>>240476661
weird how everyone used cheat mode after you but top ten played properly
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>>240477587
He's an affiliate and not fully partnered. Afaik you get quality options with a certain number of viewers.
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https://twitter.com/Seldia_K/status/1082623711130177536
If the eye tracker is accurate it's hard to follow where he focused at. In this bullets pattern situation most of the time I only able to scan near my ship.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-G9Oolro8
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>>240479259
I think I missed one element, he maybe has bigger monitor so that scanning range optimal for him. While I play it on a 17" desktop monitor and not tate'd.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTUzaBYi2rI
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>>240484835
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HEY is streaming Saidaioujou this week
http://live2.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv317851813
http://ch.nicovideo.jp/channel/ch2611241

Steam port I can feel it growing stronger
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>>240489279
>Steam port I can feel it growing stronger
THIS

ITS OUR TURN
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does kraut play boost or unlimited in crimzon clover?
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>>240489279
>Steam port I can feel it growing stronger
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>>240489279
oh no
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>>240489778
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>>240490108
much better, I wonder why it defaulted me to 192kbps
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>put nico at 3mbps
>it now buffers every 3 seconds
nico, more like peeco
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>>240490940
works with my net, must be your isp
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why japs play sdoj when it has the score bug
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>>240495513
dunno
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the virgin degica
the chad m2
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how do we make shmups esports
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Baahmpu
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>>240501884
People want to see PvP of some sort.
Man vs Pre-arranged patterns won't cut it.

>>240495513
Why are bugs allowed to be exploited for WR? State of shmup sports is just goofy.
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>>240442542
>with the GAME OST
fuck, i just realized what you meant by this chav. i got you tomorrow
https://open.spotify.com/album/6kzdxF5o6XpDNTLVVdjoMj
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>>240507417
>People want to see PvP of some sort.
gdq also has no pvp usually
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slp
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>>240507417
People don't even know how shmups work due to how misunderstood arcade gaming is. Infinite continues in ports and MAME has given these game a bad image.
I've played some pretty hard shit like Same Same Same in front of people and the didn't even watch, it's like they don't get the appeal, probably thinking I credit fed like an idiot.

>>240508584
This, GDQ only works because they always have at least some selection of games that are nostalgic to most Nintensoi jarpig audiences.
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>>240501884
Pretty much impossible since they are unappealing (both to play and to watch) to most people into games these days. We all know the reason so I'll spare you that wall of text. Could have only worked in the 80's, but the eSport thing wasn't as strong then.
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Wake me up when SDOJ Steam released
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>>240515357
(Can't wake up)
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Kraut why you restart mame instead of soft reset
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>>240515660
prolly for the input record
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>kraut dadhopping
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>>240515660
inp record, soft reset stops it and using throttle at all can desync it

>>240508291
what else could it mean?
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>>240508291
ok i just checked the link, har har, good one, penis.

i wish arcade stgs let you turn off the music and keep on sound effects though, i'd actually play raiden dx then.
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that guy top of rtype 1 leaderboard on steam is a gradius 4 superplayer from japan btw.
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>>240520129
This?
DX music are good imo
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>>240521000
lagggggggggggg
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>>240521000
does that look like "arcade" to you you fucking mong? the ps1 version has 2 great soundtracks but yes the original soundtrack is shite, boring as fuck and makes the game a damn chore.
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>>240521000
>psx v1.13
mate..
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>tfw can't clear training mode

>>240521312
what's the difference gameplay-wise?

>>240521783
what?
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>>240521995
>tfw can't clear training mode
STATE
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>>240521995
>what's the difference gameplay-wise?

not much but that's not the fucking point dickhead, i want to be able to do it on the ARCADE ie mame version.
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>>240521995
stop using this outdated shit
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>>240522163
i use it aswell to be fair, it works on toasters and is good enough, fuck off dork.
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>>240522263
ok, enjoy the inaccuracy
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>>240522329
ok i will? i don't play anything where it matters anyway on psx lmao. what you play where accuracy has mattered?
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>>240522707
Gus on suicide watch
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>>240522408
*silence intensifies*
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so the wired new saturn controllers will be 20 dollar, chances they have actual original build quality?
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>>240523271
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>>240523672
desu im kinda more intrigued in the new genny ones they're doing, i have fond memories using one as a kid, wonder how good they actually are.
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>>240513406
Shmups are boring to watch in general, unless you're copy monkeying.. Good players make them look easy, and nothing happens until the last boss. Not good for spectators.
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>xbox 360 pad out of stock
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>>240508584
gdq isn't an esport. There are no professional speedrunners,they are more like demonstration events for niche enthusiasts (stinky ppl and trannies) not actual competitions in the sporting or tournament sense like chess, starcraft, street fighter, dota2 ect.
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>>240520729
Gradius4 is legit. Unlike GAYDIUS THWEE. Which is a glitchy mess!
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>>240524085
>There are no professional speedrunners
by the definition of professional it's basically included under being paid to do something, you could say that some are professional speedrunners as it's the entirety of their income from twitch etc i guess.

>>240524209
i know, g4s my fav gradius by miles.
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>>240523791
Sega systems have quite good controls for arcade game since they were all about the arcade experience at home as opposed to Nintendo who pushed home gaming away from it.

>>240523889
Disagreed, this only applies to clueless people not into the genre, or mostly. But yeah this is why GDQ with shit like Zelda gets a pass.
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>>240524451
arcade games*
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>>240524451
>Sega systems have quite good controls for arcade game since they were all about the arcade experience at home as opposed to Nintendo who pushed home gaming away from it.

I think you've misread my question, i know they are great i had only segas and still have saturn, i'm curious more about the build quality of the new ones and if my memory of genny pad being great still stands.
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>>240524604
I thought you meant that you hadn't played with one in a while and thus couldn't say if they were actually good (the original ones)
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>Gamecube's best selling game, Smash Melee, is considered too hard now and the fact that it spawned a competitive scene is seen as regretful since Nintendo doesn't want to associate itself with skill to not allienate consumers, making the sequels simpler
This company really hit a new low from Wii onwards, holy shit.
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>>240524896
Hence the anti-skill shilling to associate the brand's image with that, reassuring the consumers.
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smush was a mistake
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>>240525194
Probably
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Super Stinky Bros
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>>240524647
No i meant my memory of them is good but i'm 20 odd years older now and a far better player so wonder if they feel as good today.

>>240524896
>Nintendo doesn't want to associate itself with skill to not allienate consumers, making the sequels simpler


oh look so my entire assessment of the nature of the games industry and methods to expand consumer base etc that i've been saying here for years and getting shit for turns out to be entirely 110% accurate.
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>>240525510
>getting shit for turns
SEETHING jarpigs in denial

One of the (many) quotes by the creator on this topic, this one is from 2010:

>Looking back, nearly a decade on, Sakurai seems proud of Melee overall. "Melee is the sharpest game in the series," he wrote. "It's pretty speedy all around and asks a lot of your coordination skills. Fans of the first Smash Bros. got into it quickly, and it just felt really good to play."

>However, he has one particularly deep regret: the game's accessibility level. "I had created Smash Bros. to be my response to how hardcore-exclusive the fighting game genre had become over the years," Sakurai said. "But why did I target it so squarely toward people well-versed in videogames, then? That's why I tried to aim for more of a happy medium with Brawl's play balance. There are three Smash Bros. games out now, but even if I ever had a chance at another one, I doubt we'll ever see one that's as geared toward hardcore gamers as Melee was. Melee fans who played deep into the game without any problems might have trouble understanding this, but Melee was just too difficult."

>Accessibility has always been a watchword in Sakurai's design style, and there's little doubt he learned a lot from the Melee development experience. "If we want new people from this generation of gamers to come in," he concluded, "then we need it accessible, simple, and playable by anyone. You can't let yourself get preoccupied with nothing but gameplay and balance details. That's where the core of the Smash Bros. concept lies, not on doggedly keeping the game the way it was before."

Again, Melee was the best selling game of its console, so accessibility was never an issue, and this is an early 00's game. Also, notice how he mentions
>this generation of gamers
REALLY makes you think, eh.
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>Another Spaniard into Toaplan
Too bad pretty much only oldfag gen Xers remember these games fondly from back then
And this one is probably just a collector
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2DpkT3QTGo
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>>240525835
everythings controlled by marketing, nintendo post gamecube were on the verge of bankruptcy, the Wii was there last gamble for survival, 360 and ps3 had the market cornered for "gamers" so nintendo had to think of something that worked with the brand and they want for the broadest demographic possible making a marketing campaign targeting inclusion of the whole family etc, fitness games, party and it worked luckily for them. Nintendo even in its early days i think cottoned on that hardcore gaming ie nes was always going to be niche and likely maxed, the snes was the start of them going family friendly imo thus nintendo fans are literal sois.
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>>240526189
SNES undeniably solidified that due to how the console was built, sacrificing a lot of processor power, making arcade-style games undesirable, you'd have to make them with way worse visuals than in say the MegaDrive to achieve the same sprite quantity and stuff without slowing down. They probably banked on the rise of JRPGs in Japan, since they did have the most popular franchises exclusive to their consoles then, and their first party titles globally.
Then the N64 was fully built for 3D games, while arcades were still a mix. Essentially giving up the ability to have ports for many games.
GameCube was a slight return to form but also the least succesful (and coming out in a time when games as a whole were really starting to change into the modern style), it had quite a number of arcade ports, including the famous Frothing demand edition of Ikaruga. Interestingly, Wii also has some arcade ports (like Milestone games) but we all know what happened then.
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IBARA
UNTS UNTS UNTS UNTS
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>>240526629
IBALA
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Dropping my STG soon, it'll be the ultimate in hardcore gameplay. A black ship with black bullets with black enemies, with a chaining system that's very strict
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>TOP 5 HARDEST TOAPLAN GAMES
>It's absolutely wrong
Fucking latam weebs I swear
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi5RLfKmMpA
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>"Hey Ash, watcha playin'?"
IKAWOOGA
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>>240526528
snes's processor choice was some budget stingy bullshit, i assume it had something to do with nintendo having an outstanding contract or a fucking bum load stored somewhere and just stuck with it where as sega already had the arcade market and stuck with it.

now that eras past and we have emu's i've played a lot on both and fuck me its clear snes is just crippled by slowdown and shit everywhere clearly more interested in looking like arcade where as sega was more interested in playing like arcade than looking like it.

gamecube fucked up imo with the weird tiny discs and that pad, sony were the smart ones in that gen linking dvd and normal media formats to the console, it went to show gamers weren't suckered in by only the game performance and an all round package was now desirable as game cube generally had the best ports of games.

>>240526629
thats only in kuro, games buttrock mostly
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>I love watching replays from others! so please record everything!
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>>240527005
I like Kuros unts', they get me hype
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>>240527005
>snes's processor choice was some budget stingy bullshit
Of course, but they decided to sacrifice this aspect of the console and not others for a reason. If they cared about arcade-style game they wouldn't have.
Sega didn't have the arcade market in Japan, PCE was the one that took that there.
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>>240527250
I mean in the home market, as we all know Sega had, and even has a strong actual arcade pressence.
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>See some kike jarpig leftist kid open his kikemas kikesent
>It's a SNES
>Break the door open
>Smash the SNES
>Tell him that it's inferior to arcade hardware and SNES doesn't even have based Zanac 2 Zanac
>Stroll out on my heelies as I toss him a Mushi PCB and superplay dvds
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>>240527250
>but they decided to sacrifice this aspect of the console and not others for a reason.
financial and oversight, it was unchartered territory, i dont believe it was any kind of conspiracy beyond that, as a buisness model they wanted max profit for minimum outlay and its the devs who had to bend to it which is likely what lead to rthe type of game they got as thats what worked. look at saturn? same story, sega completely overlooked dev aspect and ended up with a machine very few could utilize which dictated what games would come eventually where as ps1 was a simple d box with common code and thus thats exactly what the devs did.

the wii is much later though so is more likely to have more informed purposeful decisins as you say and was the least powerful of the tmie thus nintendo returning to that model of cheap but good enough because casuals dont even care or notice and the devs getting in line to work with what they had. im not convinced nintendo limited hardware to push devs into certain games/genres because they hqave departments that regulate and ok whats released anyway.
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>tfw still no noticeable scores
why even trying
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>>240527581
Back to autobombing in DOJBL
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>>240527656
T. Unbased and cringe
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>>240527620
Nah I'm just saying that they saw they could cut the processor (making the console cheaper) while still having a profit due to how they saw gaming as a whole develop (such as the aforementioned JRPG success example)
This line of thinking:
Oh, these RPGs have been huge sellers, and they don't need that much processing speed... we can probably spend less budget on that.
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>>240527714
Yeah it was pretty cringe seeing you insult players here while being so oblivious and retarded you couldn't even realize you were dying.
Dunning-Kruger effect, more like Mad Max effect
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>>240527983
Mad Max isn't even good aussiekino. There is literally one good Aussiekino and it's The Castle
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>Mad Max, a JRPG player, has shown severe Dunning-Krugger effect
Who could have gassed
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>>240527898
oh aye i think the same but just that it was a concious decision originally that it was purely economic and the devs themselves went to genres that worked, gradius 3 was a release title.... which supports my theory ie that they saw how fucked it was with lag etc and devs started thinking about what works. it worked out and they stuck with it.
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Shoot em ST up em Gs
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>>240528336
wasn't conscious
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>>240528336
Early SNES games are a sad sight, you can see companies trying to bring arcade-style games to it but the thing just can't handle them.
They got better at programming for it later on but by that point the damage was done and the devs moved on to other consoles for this type of game. And ever since the Nintensoi has been disconnected from arcade-style games.
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>>240528646
since then Nintensoi have
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>>240528646
>Nintensoi has been disconnected from arcade-style games
Switch is one of the best arcade consoles evar
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>an arcade is a magical place that can transform ignorant, whiny kids into fucking ninjas. It's just how it works: you walk in a trash-talking, limp-wristed, Final Fantasy-playing, useless idiot, and you walk out finally humble and respectful towards skill-based games and the players who take them on

>this great differentiation between the arcade and console variants of the different genres did not always exist. Many early console games were essentially arcade games because console developers used to look up to the arcade industry for ideas and inspiration. Times were very different back then, skill-based games were still respected, and indeed reigned supreme, and so arcade-like games did very well even outside their natural environment, even on home consoles

>So even though in the console space there was no pressing need for an original game (as opposed to a port of an arcade game) to offer a tough, long-lasting challenge, many of them did. Up to and including the 16-bit era examples of original console titles designed using the arcade philosophy abound

>But this state of things could not have lasted forever

>Capcom's Chohmakaimura (Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts in the West), a Super Famicom-exclusive title, was a sequel to a popular arcade franchise in which the signs of things that were to come are clearly visible, at least with hindsight

>The game was... too easy

>Being a big fan of the series and having pumped countless coins into the first two games in the arcades, I imported the latest installment as soon as it came out and ended up beating it within less than a week. That's compared to the first two games which I've yet to beat -- and probably never will

>This game is perhaps a bad example to illustrate the point I want to make here, because its predecessors were far too hard even by arcade standards, so the toning down of the difficulty of the third, console-exclusive, installment was not unjustified (though I still maintain that Capcom overcompensated)
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>>240529261
>But the point is that Choh had ever-so-slightly -- but still quite clearly -- veered away from its roots and from the arcade design philosophy, because it would not have made the operators very happy had Capcom tried to sell it to them. The veterans of the series would have pooped all over it even faster than I did, and from then on only the occasional noobs would be playing it. The game's earnings would therefore have collapsed far too soon for the operators to recoup their initial investment and turn a satisfactory profit. At the very least, it would have made them less money than its predecessors

>And can you now begin to see why arcade games have to be difficult, and why it's absolutely vital that they offer a long-lasting challenge?

>this magic cannot be recreated outside the environment that gave birth to it -- at least not without conscious and disciplined effort on the part of both developers and players. Because outside the arcade environment there are no arcade operators, and hence the compromise that led to the above formula is not necessary anymore. Without the operators to balance the demands of the players, there's no reason for developers to try and challenge the players. Almost imperceptibly at first (as with Chohmakaimura and with many other titles released around that time), but with increasing boldness and disregard as time goes by, they move away from the arcade philosophy. They start to pander to the players: they flatter them, they play to their vanity, they give them elaborate cutscenes and ending cinematics and little useless trinkets (unlockables and the like) to trick them into feeling a sense of accomplishment -- the kind of feeling that they used to earn before by overcoming a difficult challenge

>And so the games become easier. And they lose their focus. And they degenerate

>Want to see what a degenerate arcade game plays like?

>Play R-Type Final. Play the latest bloated Ridge Racers. Play Gokumakaimura
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>>240529128
Oh yeah tons of people are playing arcade games on it and not buying it for Zelda!
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onions onions onions
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Shmupg is so superficial it judges things by their appearance
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>>240529581
Cite example
You mean like Kraut with Feveron?
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>>240529660
It's a joke lad
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>>240529762
So where's the fun in the joke
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>>240529859
Fun is for kikes
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>>240530091
Your jokes are terrible Mad Maxine, did you get this sense of humor in your hours of reading inane text in JRPGs? Perhaps in anime?
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Now THIS was a westie licensed console game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7OIj9m_o5U
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>>240530954
>the music
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So apparently this was a WR (perhaps not too many play it on Hard which disables most progression). Too bad this game has unskippable cutscenes (text things) since it's rather nice otherwise.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRO07TywnLY
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>>240531460
Also, Hard, which is a better way to play, has to be unlocked first... Fuck.
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so i just did a roughly timed run in knights of the round hardest and am getting to the last boss in around 22 mins, not bad going, lost the run to him unfortunately.

>>240531073
its pretty great to be fair.
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chav in gdq with Capcom bmups when
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>>240531542
>cyber-elves
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>mfw the beat drops


https://youtu.be/BCDKgXeDICk?list=PLC07EBC6571E991CD
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>>240533591
*juggling intensifies*
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>whenever Cream posts
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i want to like ketsui but its scoring system is pissing me off. i wanna dodge stuff and not do mathematics and chip counting shit. why did they make it so complicated for brainfarts like me?
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>>240537375
>scoring
>dodging stuff
bruh
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>>240537375
>scoring system is pissing me off
so ignore it? you can still go for 2-all.
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>>240537375
>get 5 chip
>kill enemies until timer ends
much complex
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>>240538167
this is what plebs actually believe, its a myth lad, ketsui is actually complicated, try doing what you say and get a 250 mill first loop..
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>>240538228
the blonde one is Plasmo
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>>240538228
>plasmovseagletstunfest.gif
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>>240319893
RefleX?
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>>240525835
The thing about Melee is that it IS accessible, despite what some people might lead you to believe. I unlocked every character in Melee, cleared all the event matches, and had plenty of fun playing it with friends when I was 10 years old. Sakurai's belief that the games need to "be more accessible" is actually working in the exact opposite direction. Melee is fun both casually and competitively, while the changes made in Brawl and Smash 4 to accommodate this "accessibility" drastically slows down gameplay at high levels, putting a damper on competitive play. Smash 4 tournaments play with half the stock count that Melee does (4 stocks per match in Melee, 2 stocks per match in Smash 4) and from what I recall Smash 4 tournaments STILL had a tendency to run late more often than Melee did. By removing Melee's more advanced techniques that no one in casual play ever used anyway, they've effectively neutered the competitive playstyle to the benefit of no one. Combos rarely extend beyond 2-3 hits, and many, many characters share the same few strings (Downthrow to an aerial, or uptilt to uptilt three times in rapid succession). Of course, eventually they added Bayonetta, who crushed "balance" into the ground by just being the best at nearly everything and having touch of death combos. Last year's Smash 4 EVO grand finals wound up being Bayonetta vs Bayonetta, and amusingly controversial at that since the players were just dicking around and at one point stalled the match for 30+ seconds for kicks.

And the sad thing is, whatever Sakurai hoped to accomplish by trying to level the playing field wasn't even accomplished. Skilled players are still going to shitstomp new, unskilled players nearly every time. Much as I'm enjoying this rant, the character limit is coming up, so I'll go ahead and stop it here.
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The reason parries work in a fighting game is due to the reading aspect of them. In Third Strike they serve to layer the mindgames: besides the usual high, low, grab and cross attacks you also have to worry about your hits getting parried if you're too predictable, thus baiting parries becomes a thing.
Shmups being games about largely static enemies... yeah, you can have shields that last a split second or something, but it will never be the same.
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>>240543335
I know, which is why I insisted on the fact that Melee was the best selling game of its platform.
As I said and even proved with a quote from the creator, it's not about accessibility, that's just a farce. It's all about lowering the skill ceiling as much as possible since they don't want to associate themselves with skill at all, they consider that bad image to their brand even of their games can be enjoyed by both casuals and dedicated players. No, that's not enough, ONLY turbo casuals are allowed. Essentially they sacrifice long-term appeal because they consider that market is too small compared to the potential loss of consumers that may be put off by the competitive image.
This is why I'm concerned with anti-skill sentiments in general, the movement is not about inclusiveness but in fact the exclusion of dedicated players. With the term GAMERS OF TODAY he's clearly stating a divide, which IMO it's the skill-based VS extrinsic-based (progression, story...) gamers
>the top 2 characters are DLC
lmao shameless
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>>240544196
even if*
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https://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=63887&sid=53279fc2f33b57e54f68b69abeb45ff1

it's that time of the year for ikapooga to get btfo by based cave once again
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>>240546070
chav please make a new account in time to vote so we can thoroughly style on ikapooga
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>>240546070
SUBHUMAN CAVEDRONES
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>>240546403
>>240546070
we need to make guwange number 1 then demand a sequel
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>>240547225
that will be a mobage progressfest about waifus
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does m2 had ddp games?
the auto replay mode in deathtiny would be perfect for practising chains
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>>240547225
why do hipsters like guwange so much, its pretty mediocre desu
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>>240548949
t. subhuman
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>>240548949
how can it be mediocre? when its so original it can;t be compared to anything else?

most people can't even play it.

only me, kraut and prom have any rights to an opinion on it.
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>>240550413
>hurrrrr you need hi score to have an opinion
hypocrit chav strikes again
you talk shit of games you don't got scores in all the time
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what's krauts ikapooga score?
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>>240550413
Mediocre would be like a 4/10 score by definition (slightly below average) which is indeed far too low for Guwange considering what you said about its uniqueness, but also its undeniable quality, even if even you are kinda sick of it due to some of its flaws.
A mediocre arcade shmup would be something like Andro Dunos IMO (middle of the road, derivative, not too good)
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>>240552224
28m, normal
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>>240548949
>why do hipsters like guwange so much
it's the only great game cave ever made
all their other shit is soiboi stuff for animu otaku brainlets
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>>240552490
>all their other shit is soiboi stuff for animu otaku brainlets
Take that back, don't forget about DonPachi
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>>240551669
>this again

no i always put in a decent amount of time and get to grisp with a game before i have a view on it, i've proven this everytime your retard ass brings it up and i said nothing about needing a hi score but you in guwange if you have any grasp of it you will by default have a 0 mill clear at least.
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>>240552907
>by default have a 0 mill clear
Yeah by default you haven't played it and thus have no score lmao funny mistake
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>bongos played by a nigger
BASED
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oyhlad64-s
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>>240552907
everyone who has opinion of guwange put int decent time and got to grips then
>>240552907
>and i said nothing about needing a hi score
>>240550413
>only me, kraut and prom have any rights to an opinion on it.
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extremely important question
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>>240552315
>kinda sick of it due to some of its flaws
cee is only sick of it because he milked the cat like a retard before fully concentrating on the rest

even counterstop players don't milk the cat until around 60-70 mill
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>>240555493
Aaaand he's back
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found some time and finally fixed my guitar
didn't touch it for like 9 years
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>>240555493
>chav uses retard strats, gets 50 mil in a couple months
>kraut uses 140 iq strats, 40 mil after 6000 hours
something's not adding up boys......
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>>240557262
SAVAGE
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>>240557262
the fact that kraut will NEVER EVER be able to surpass primitive uncontrolled chav flailing will never stop being hilarious to me
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>>240557170
He never goes away, at this point that should be obvious to anyone.
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>>240557262
>>240557550
I planned long term, while chav planned short term to get that quick westie record.
I can already beat his score without any catspider milking, I just need to get that lucky no-miss run.
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>>240558323
>I can already beat his score without any catspider milking, I just need to get that lucky no-miss run.
Anytime now
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Based kraut
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well I guess that settles it bois. why even bother playing any of this shit for myself when I can just parrot the opinions of my efriends?
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>>240558323
>I can already beat his score without any catspider milking
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>>240558573
t. kraut
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>>240558661
muh SWY
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>>240558905
so are they any good or not?
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>>240558905
Man, can't wait for them to produce only 50 saturn controllers that will be sold out two minutes after release.
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marry/fuck/kill

jarpigs
2hufappers
collectordads
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>>240559428
marry collectordads for that dosh
fuck 2hufappers because they're the leftover
kill jarpigs to end the jarpig menace
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>>240559564
this is the only based answer
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>>240559564
besides, tranny 2hufappers want to get fucked anyway
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>>240559564
what happens when the person is a jarpig, a 2hufapper and a collector at the same time
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>>240559936
You marry, fuck, and finally kill them. If you're lucky you'll inherit their dosh and avoid contracting aids.
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>>240559936
>>240560291
>PapillonthePirate
>doesn't pirate anything, addicted to buying shit
bit weird innit
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>>240553034
3 is broken on kboard

>>240555493
mate even with milking i only average 15 mill which is what ost got for 70mill so you're wrong.

>>240558323
THE ART OF BEATING THE SCORE, WITHOUT BEATING THE SCORE

>>240557550
I'll tell this im much more suited to bmups, im getting faster stage times now than the chinese player in knights of the round with perceval for 1,3,4 and 5

and unlike guwange it never stops being fun, im an arcade speedbummer bois
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i bet, chav is cheater
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>>240560559
i've never cheated at anything in my life, true story.
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>>240560559
state of kraut tbqh
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>>240560559
COPE
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How long until the next subhuman machine gun spam followed by a totally coincidental mass purge
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>>240560975
that so happen to never remove Kraut's posts
and that never happen when he hasn't argued with anyone
hmm
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>>240560975
A kraut does what a kraut must do
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test
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>>240562136
kraut has not banned you yet
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>>240562136
more like low test
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Schön, dass du wieder da bist.
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>>240563278
>apu
accurate for Germany tbqhwy
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>>240560427
>THE ART OF BEATING THE SCORE, WITHOUT BEATING THE SCORE
kek, anyway, I know you are better
I can route but I am just too shit at twitch dodging for this game
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I also feel like kosame is actually a better character for me, since her speed makes dodging a lot easier (gensuke is just too slow)
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>>240566604
>17
too old
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>>240566604
kosame requires mega pro shiki skills imo, just fucking nukes everything prematurely when i play her.
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>>240570880
I don't find her shiki nuke that bad, except for stage 1 a bit. The bad thing about her is just that bosses take longer to kill, which is especially annoying on the worm mid-boss in stage 4.
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>>240573431
>The bad thing about her is just that bosses take longer to kill, which is especially annoying on the worm mid-boss in stage 4.

try to juggle between her shiki and shot because her shot is mega strong.
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>>240573676
stronger than the shiki? i doubt it
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>>240573864
try it
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>>240323315
He kind of has a point though, you're generalizing pretty badly. I use to go to the gym but now just workout at home. For the most part I honestly only thought of staying fit and getting bigger. It wasn't trying to pick up hoes or anything. Now I'm not arguing a lot of people do however I wouldn't say all of them.

One of my top fears is still becoming a fat fuck though. My chaotic work, school, time caring for sick family don't help.
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>>240574702
it's not generalizing as it was about a very small percentile of a particular type and fuck off with your resurrection. you'll never become a fat fuck if your diet is right literally ever.

little bit of advice son, it's never "all" eveyone knows that which is why generalizations exist applicable to majorities as no one has the fucking time of day to consider and speak of every single individual who might be different, it goes without saying. It's so tiresome when dipshits can't understand this and need to fuck up discussions with "NOT ALL BRO" it's a sure sign you're an intellectual light weight. If what is said doesn't apply to you then you've no need to concern yourself nor anything to defend and if something does rattle you there's likely something true about it.

i'm sorry to hear about family, it's never easy caring for loved ones.
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>>240574571
I already did. The thing with her shiki is just, that you have to line up its flamethrower orientation with the enemies, then it's also quite strong. Ie if you position yourself at lower right corner on the stage 4 mid-boss for example, then I think you also could kill it faster, because the flamethrower always goes in the direction the shiki stands in correlation to the character.
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>>240575782
whats your kosame pb?
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>>240575970
43.5
Could have been 50 tho. I reached the endboss with 5 bombs, full life, etc at around 38, but died right at the start when the baby was still undeground, because I didn't know how to handle the shiki on the orbs. It just didn't kill the orbs, because they just spawned under the flamethrower.
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>>240575261
I got you man and thanks, yeah it gets heavy. Mother pass from cancer about 2 years ago and caring for my father who is going down. No disrespect meant.
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>>240577052
well it takes a good man to do what you're doing, i wish you the best.

>>240576634
50s become such a object in your mind breaking through it always becomes monumental, best way past it although easier said than done is to stop caring so nerves dont get to you so much.
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>>240577446
>stop caring so nerves dont get to you so much
I don't even think it's the nerves. I just am not that good at twitch dodging, especially with such a slow character as Gensuke, plus I already do shit like no-bombing the oxcarts, etc.
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>>240578117
well then it'll come, you deserve it.
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Baaahmpu
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>>240552389
didn't he almost get 50?
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>>240582873
wrong game
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>>240559936
>7m views
can't believe so many degenerates looked at those hotglue objects
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>cuphead, the hardest game ever, at agdq
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>clast retweeting monkeys
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Satazius is pretty good
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>>240598017
Astro Port is based
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Arcades only existed because of lootboxes
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ded
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>>240558661
>everyone taking this seriously
>click the video and the guy is a fucking goof
cringing at all of you desu
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>>240610448
>>everyone taking this seriously
ehhhh
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gnite cunts
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>>240543335
One more thing regarding this, Harry: the fundamental issue isn't really the combos. They are not the core strength of fighting games, but instead having a deep and meaningful strategy in the mindgames department. Shit like, for instance, Brawl, has a very poor and limited one, with stuff like random tripping and all the limited movement and attack options (i.e. having very few safe approach options, leading to the spam of the same moves). Stuff like wavedash, meaningful DI and actual choices when approaching (like say NAir or DAir as Fox) is what actually separate Melee from nu-Smash since it enriches the guessing game, which truly is what these games are all about.
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>>240620162
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6s6MHvO0Bs
That guy is just a massive emo attention whore.
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>>240621110
>El Vampiro de Transylvania
And why the fuck does this guy suddenly cry out of nowhere
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>>240598017
on insane its perfect
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>>240621523
People on 4chan tell him the ugly truth, which he can't handle.
He also didn't even cry, he just attention whores in his fake emo ways.
His name already says everything. The guy is a narcissist.
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>>240621909
Yeah Narcissa was a hilarious pick for a name
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>>240622050
just look at that room? that is what a sick failing society looks like.
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>>240622457
B-but all leisure is exactly the same
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>>240620162
Do we have latest pics of him? I want to know how far a product called onions destroying a human body.
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>>240622767
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-R8ghoWcuny0CUB3hmm9XA/videos
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>>240622457
Imagine if that's an STG event
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>>240622975
if its euro we all look healthy mostly especially compared, even euro speedbumming is less soi.
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just look at that room? that is what a sick failing society looks like.
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>>240622975
>>240623119
SEETHING
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>>240623095
And you only have to check our most active hours to realize that shmups are more popular in Europe than in America
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>>240623119
t. triggered dork speedbummer

it looks MUCH better than the genetic porridge creche for deranged manchildren of agdq. Even soidrink there is a healthy looking functioning member of society who just needs to be less bitch in himself, go look at the uk and french players, we all look like actual men for a start.
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>>240623119
Dentadad will guide them as the OG he is
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>>240623348
the euro blonde fuck pig is german i think? go on kraut get in there, just wax off all her hair and give her pigtails if it irks you.
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derppo looks awful, wtf is this face
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Face it speedbummers, NMK > Nintensoi
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>>240623442
>give her pigtails
pigtails are basically frowned upon in Germany. Pigtails are NAZI!
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>>240623528
his look is the finnish schoolshooter and sideshow fake child gynecologist
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>>240623638
lmao really? i didn't know that.
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>>240623721
yes, no joke
women are so brainwashed here, they see pigtails as a sign of "nazism", because of the BDM
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>>240623773
christ it's ridiculous. Is it true rolling your v,s is frowned on also because hitler did it?
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>one copy of ikaruga for nintendo switch please
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>>240623843
you mean rolling the "r"? i would think so, but nobody does this anymore
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Just like how not being a whore is seen as bad because fascist regimes didn't see this as desirable, retarded pushback.
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>one copy of ikaruga for nintendo switch please
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>>240623967
i meant r aye

>>240623971
yep all discipline and reservation is BAD because it makes ppl bad for consumerism and greed pig companies, you need to be CARE FREE and WANT NOW and debt ridden etc, kike shit.
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read through anns wall, its hilarious she's basically having a mid life breakdown or something full of hypocrisy and inane ranting which all boils down to COPE posting about fighting her nature to be a dustbowl RETRO GAMER in her 30s/40s.
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>>240624220
So apparently the sick grab desease is an STD
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>>240624220
she looks like my mom's friend
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>>240623442
too old
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>>240624858
stop sucking his dick already
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>>240625407
the jealousy is back I see
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>>240625407
>when you're so aspergers you can't detect sarcasm
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even rayman is too hard for /vr/

the absolute state.
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>>240626141
Anything that isn't the most babby Nintendo, RPG or PC savescum game is too much for them.
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>>240625581
i don't like clast and people who cheers him
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>>240626241
your jealousy makes you SEETHE so hard you can't even detect sarcasm... state
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>>240626241
THEY WEREN'T CHEERING HIM YOU FUCKING SPERG, IT WAS SARCASM OVER HIS SHITE MUSIC TASTE.

he did have 1 deece tune though
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>>240626303
rayman has loads of save points though, it's a great game desu. Go check the thread, the usual defence is out.
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>>240626451
Still too much for them. Anything that requires even the slightest semblance of effort.
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im shockeD!
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Wew, someone on HEY just reached Inbachi with full lives
And perfectly obliterated by the washing machine
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redpill me on Shithondo
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>>240629112
shite poohou with some nice looks that is poorly optimized uses way to much resource and has atrocious control mapping
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>check resetera first time ever

>see this


lmfao, trannies again.
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>>240630145
>atrocious control mapping
that's why i refunded it
fuck unity
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>>240630545
aqy is that you?
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>>240631459
>quick research on him

Oh so he hasn't actually done anything that the lunatic tranny accuses him of... figures.
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>>240633250
japan >>> e*rope
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>>240633946
?????? japan contributed fucking nothing at all compared to european peoples, everything that matters is built by europeans.
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>>240634556
They also contributed at least some stuff, plus they don't run everything into the ground like europeens currently

Japan was just an isolationist country
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>>240623198
euro hours are completely dead without chav as we just saw
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>>240634556
karaoke
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bros...
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gg kraut
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>>240640115
Thanks! Was about time
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>>240641467
gj, did you beat chav's score?
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CHAV BTFO
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>>240641467
Feini
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back brainlet em ups chav
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>>240641467
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>>240642715
No, he has about 56 mill or something with Shishin I think. I did beat his Gensuke score tho.
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battle garegga best shmoop
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>>240646328
Fire Lancer, the best game ever
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brap lancer already 2019 goty
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>>240641467
told you it'd come, well done.

>>240635834
been out with a friend allday, just got in.

>>240643934
yep 56 with shishin, i think you can beat it.
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>>240650150
>well done
Thanks! It's amazing that this is merely half of the wr. The game is just insane.

>i think you can beat it
I could. I didn't collect the first food item at full health in this run and died at the final pattern once. I think I will try to optimize my routes now tho.
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But at least Guwange is not CCWI all over again. That game was just too hard, even on Original. At least I can clear Guwange consistently.
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I think Niviv must have been one of the hardest working western shmup players in 2018. He played the shit out of Unlimited, and CCWI is exhausting as fuck to play.
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>>240654039
aka he's a shut in with a waifu
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Chav review on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ9QHGaxdig
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This guy sucks.
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>>240659003
is it the one with the rockets from bottom and top? that is the hardest enemy in the game
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>>240658450
>T2K sound like 2007 north france/belgian club music, really ahead of the time.
lmfao it's as stereotypical 90's as you can get
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>>240659203
Ye, it is. Pretty sure I can clear normal very soon, just need to practice the boss rush and last stage - will this unlock insane difficulty or do I have to play through hard/very hard?
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hey chav could you recommend me some good trance
you've posted some already but i lost the links
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>>240659661
>will this unlock insane difficulty or do I have to play through hard/very hard?
can't remember
may be playtime based too (20 hours or so)
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>>240659661
just credit feeding a difficulty unlocks the next so aye just credit through very hard, insane is great.

if you dont want to do it i believe i can send you my save file to unlock it
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>>240658450
um dunno but go to 16.so that's that break namiki loved to rip off in doj boss music

>>240659719
yeah ok but later on, mi about to watch a film with me mam
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>>240660106
>>240660747
Thanks

>i can send you my save file to unlock it
Nah it's good practice and I'm about to clear normal soon, I might credit feed through hard though.
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>>240661724
GIVE REPLAY
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>>240654039
more like a good example of non-talented player
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forgot pic
>TIME TO HUNT
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>>240661724
Congrats!

You probably might want to post a video for such a score. seriously tho congrats, that really is an amazing score
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>>240662126
i think niviv was still fairly new to shmups
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>>240661968
yeah just get to insane honestly, i should get back into desu, it's a fucking great game.

>>240659719
here wrap your mind around this for the time being, not purely trance but it's just amazing

https://youtu.be/9Kerkshbzuo
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>>240661724
is it also the top 1 compared to arcade? nontheless gg
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>East Asian ethnicity is more culturally copy monkey than others
>East Asians are the ones who play shmups the most
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>>240661724
>im done for now

fuck off lying sperg
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or wait, deathtiny is not even in the arcades is it?
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>>240662572
you're making a right twat of yourself son, it's a port only arrange mode.
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>>240662684
wtf do i know
in the age of exa everything can land in the arcades
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>wtf do i know
that the grabs are sick
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>absolute state of brap getting jealous of the greatest game ever
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>>240662232
>>240662452
thanks. my scoring is still compromised in places so there's room to improve if you take more risks. i'll let assy dedicate his life to getting 900m tho, if he's still playing.
>>240662513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Urqiqjp4SMc
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>>240663245
If Zero Ranger gets into the top 25 this is a new low for the farm and that'd be an achievement
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>>240663245


fire lancer rhymes with dire cancer, that's unfortunate for brap16
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>>240661724
kys
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>>240663515
go for a good ikd ver score now.
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Oh fuck! I got the extremely rare final boss in Aero Fighters 3! I didn't think this shit even existed!
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dunkey has picked zeroranger as one of the best games of 2018
fucking retard, it's the best game of all TIME
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Is the shmup community full of trannies?
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>>240665494
>dunkey
As if we needed another proof of that game being shit

>>240665226
I've yet to play this one to any real extent, is that pure RNG and rare?

>>240665626
There are more trannies in it than average but it's still a tiny minority
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>>240665226
looks cool, what does it do
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/vr/'s trying to spread fake news about /ourlad/ Retardo.

>A namefag on /shmupgen/ on /vg/ started creating threads here and interjecting in JRPG threads by calling them menu-based trash and using the word "jarpig" a lot. He also pointed out how /vr/ is more interested in talking story in games instead of skill based games like shmups. This resulted in countershitposting both here and on /vg/, calling shmups derivative and samey. Now you just have people blatantly falseflagging and memeing like the guy you responded to.
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>>240666271
It's not perfect but close enough. It doesn't sound like it was written by a jarpig at least.
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>>240666271
Yeah that's some massive fiction, as people know I first posted there before moving here (or even knowing this existed).
But see, have you ever seen me confront people like Clast or Harry even if they play RPGs from time to time? No. Why is that? The reason is that I'm not bothered by people playing those games, but rather by the anti-skill shilling (which is something they don't, but for instance Kraut has done for some reason a couple of times). That's what I pointed out back then, their blatant anti-skill bias, and the sad sight of a board about old games that almost completely focuses on stuff that mostly resembles new game design, having a genre that only became popular globally in the late 90's that de-emphasizes gameplay and skill as their clear favorite. I also explained my views in a detailed, reasonable manner, which is probably what triggered them the most. A simple troll can be dismissed as just that, but someone with actual arguments telling the truth is bound to be seen as threatening to their echo chamber; people in denial don't want to see the truth.
Example which caused a shitstosm so hard it's when I stopped regularly posting and started the chain banning that is still going to this day:
I said in a thread about why Dragon Quest is popular, that the main reason is simply that it was the first big exposure to progression gaming for the Japanese, also mentioning FFVII, which was that game for many westerners and you can see how much that shit is spammed. This is pretty much undeniable, a simple fact, but resulted in a fit of rage by the regulars, followed by a witch hunt between themselves; to this day people still think that any RPG criticism comes from precisely me there. They got massively triggered.
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>>240667871
something they don't do*
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good work whoever posted the shmup frog anti jarpig thread .shit got deleted already
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>>240668983
post link
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>>240668983
He's probably resetting his IP now to avoid the 30 day ban lmao

>>240669096
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/5290032
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>>240669213
lmfao
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>>240667871
I have another piece of evidence to support my claims: I made this thread other day and you can see there aren't many real replies.
https://warosu.org/vr/thread/S5279852
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>>240669720
THE other day
fuc
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>>240669720
>that already triggered/defensive first reply
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>>240670048
Yeah it's not only the low activity but also their attitude towards skill-based games and their players.
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>>240670481
based and discopilled
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>>240667871
>for instance Kraut has done for some reason a couple of times
I would never shill for anything, except for Ikaruga.
However, I can understand that not everyone wants to play arcade games, because they require actual work.
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>>240667871
>WAAAAAH IT'S NOT FAIR! WHY AREN'T YOU GUYS AUTISTICALLY OBSESSED ABOUT MY BORING DEAD GENRE FOR SPERGS LIKE ME?

You are why everyone shits on shumptards there now. Enjoy being the joke of the board. Shump autists are /vr/'s lolcows.
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>>240672152
>tfw even /vr/ is starting to turn on the jarpigs
feels good man.
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>>240671756
Damn those Plasmo henchmen are looking better than ever

>>240671934
What you've done in the past, for whatever reason, is defend progression games and their fans, using the arguments they normally use when doing their anti-skill shilling. I'm aware that it was probably seething contrarianism against me, knowing that you actually like these games and stuff.
For sure, that's understandable, though still sad seeing that in a community about old games, and irritating to see how they shill against old school games and their fans.

>>240672152
And thus the eternally assblasted mangina appeared
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>>240672289
It's like seeing moderate kebabs fighting off extremist kebabs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U67MRAPKXzU
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>>240672350
>defend progression games and their fans
No, I did not. I always agreed with you that anti-skill games are way too popular. I just pointed out your exaggerations, because you often exaggerated.
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>>240672804
Whatever you say, I'm not going to bother to go to toe archive for an example. I think what you see as an exaggeration is what comes from my IRL experience regarding this which you seem to lack.
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>>240670481
twatsujin
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got the wr in sky force reloaded bros
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>>240672350
>>240672804
>>240673040
>why don't people want to waste thousands of hours autistically memorizing patterns in a extremely monotonous, simplistic and repetitive genre, I don't understand

You need to realize that there are only 37 million people in the world who have aspergers syndrome like you.
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>>240675448
>le aspergers le autism buzzword

christ a new low even for you, people who are shit at everything like to call the capable autistic etc to feel better about themselves being shit.
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>>240675448
You can clear many shmups in just a few hours unless you're mentally handicapped. You don't have to go for WR-level scoring, nor go for the few hardest shmups out there to surviva to have fun with the genre.
Drop the myths.
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>>240675950
just admit you like visual novels bro
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>>240676139
I prefer 30's-60's dystopian novels and not anime shit. In fact, it was the fact that I read this kind of stuff as a teen that prevented me from becoming a retarded storyfag with games. I engage with this medium to play, that's the point of it. And by playing I mean engaging with skill-based mechanics and not lazily mashing A to get to the next silly cutscene.
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>>240675847
I guess people who speedrun aren't autistic either, right. It's pretty much the same thing in essence. Also explains the high amount of trannies in both communities.
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>>240675847
No, I respect people who are capable at things worth investing lots of time and energy into, which videogames aren't. They are a form of leisure, not a job that you should commit your life to.
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>>240676517
who asked for your respect, who cares for it, and what is it about you that makes your respect of value?

Skill is skill regardless of whether it has value to others or not or reaps you material rewards or not.
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>>240676490
speed trannies are kind of a weird middleground where they have some desire to play skill-based games, but can't manage to leave their babby soi games behind.
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>>240676963
this, speed trannies are nostalgia addicts who want to be in that happy child headspace forever
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>>240676490
>>240676517
The main difference is that speedrunners largely stick to games that aren't built around the challenge they're playing, it's usually some babby Nintendo games they enjoyed in their childhood from which they can't move on (the game provides them a nostalgic safe space in their mind) so to keep being engaged with it they speedrun it. This kind of behaviour does have some link with autistic obsession.
People into games that are deliberately built around skillful play, such as shmups, other arcade genres and many versus ones are usually more well adjusted (very few trannies in shmups really) since having fun with challenging hobbies is natural and has been a thing since forever. Your anti-skill shilling doesn't work here.
You don't see anti-skill shilling in any community around a hobby except in video games, sadly due to the fact that skill-based players are lumped together with extrinsic-based ones like you, and you outnumber us + have the support of mods.

>>240676963
>>240677069
It's the result of people having the natural desire of engaging with challenging hobbies, but warped due to several personal issues.
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>>240677298
Well, let me correct myself: you actually see some anti-skill shilling in the art world, I'm sure Kraut could provide more info regarding this than me.
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what game is this in his avatar?

>>240677465
ahh yes, you must be talking about (((them)))...
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>>240677593
Gowank
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>>240677593
>what game is this in his avatar?
really? it's guwange
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>>240676924
>who asked for your respect, who cares for it, and what is it about you that makes your respect of value?
Just informing you that I don't consider people with actual skills as being shit is all. Someone with a PhD in math is not an autist, since that is a skill pertaining to the real world.

>Skill is skill regardless of whether it has value to others or not or reaps you material rewards or not.
Videogame 'skill' is a waste of time, sorry to burst your bubble.
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>>240677883
lmfao then you're a complete retard, everything is "the real world" and autism is a legitimate condition and not something determinable by what you fucking do with your time.

you're the fucking shaolin monks addicted to kung fu guy aren't you? the exact same flawed weird dumb fuck logic is on display.

again whether something is skillful or hard does not become more or less so because it's desired or not valuable to others.
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>>240677883
Let me put it this way:
You can play 2 hours of RPGs or shmups a day. Same time spent.
Those who play shmups simply enjoy having a fun time with a challenging game, meanwhile the RPG players prefer a more mindless time, that's it.
If you dismiss this you're essentially saying that hobbies are degenerate.
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>>240676963
>>240677298
Both shumps and speedrunning involve extreme amounts of route memorization and repetitive tasks. The level of "skill" required is the same. And speedurnners can choose to run various games from different genres while shumps as a whole are reskin clones.

>very few trannies in shmups really

I'm seeing a lot of evidence to the contrary in this thread in particular lmao:
>>240375316
>>240462467
>>240463283
And also the tranny in the OP pic: >>240319582
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>>240678327
Only WR-level scoring involves extreme memorization and repetition, you can play shmups normally, just like you can play the games that are speedran normally.
>The level of "skill" required is the same.
Not quite, JRPG speedrunning for instance is much easier even when taken to WR extremes.
>reskin clones.
Yeaaah OK lmao

The only tranny you can verify is the guy in the OP, as far as we know those posts could be falseflagging or even by you. In the community there are only a bunch, which is still slightly above average but a tiny minority nonetheless.
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>>240678327
that's just the cranon up to his/her tricks.
the op picture does indeed seem to feature a large handed transexual but it also features the based SHMUPMAN
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>>240678885
the op tranny damdam is a real life poison from final fight who's like 6'3 and would choke slam your faggot self
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Though, to be fair, trannies aren't a majority in speedrunning either, they're just a very vocal, overrepresented and protected minority, and mostly in the US. Most probably the high levels of soi in the community lead to the white knighting of them.
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>>240679760
it's because they're all under the same political umbrella, leftists are political prostitutes.
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finna crush battle circuit
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>>240681525
>finna crush battle circuit
t. 45 minute default shuffle n poke clear
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>implying you're correct
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which shmup has the best sidequests?
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>>240685704
A bit hard to have a sidequest in an autoscrolling game lmao
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>>240685859
deathsmiles has optional stages
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>>240685704
radiant silvercunt (find the doggos)
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>>240685960
OK if that counts then probably the Darius series.
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>>240685960
Oh shit I remembered one: Image Fight's Penalty Area clear. It's an interestingly built route, and also harder.
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>>240686564
loop 2 penalty area is one of the hardest stages in the whole genre
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>>240687710
Second post has a jarpig avatar... And of course praises the game for the narrative.
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>no dentadad stream
>no chongchav stream
>no face of shmups stream
>just taint playing mahjong
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>>240688251
>playing video game mahjong
absolute state
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>>240688251
>muh e-friends
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>>240688818
beats having no friends at all like u
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>>240689793
post you're scores
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Every time I try to watch a superplay or a speedrun I get bored 5 minutes in
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>>240690606
Have you tried with a game you actually like to play and care about?
What about live performances of tremendous skill like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRNbanVu6DE
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>>240690879
I’m a newfaggot, I haven’t played this yet
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>>240691048
It's normal then, the nuances of what's being played are being lost to you due to your ignorance. Give it a chance with a game you're familiar with then, once you have enough experience with one.
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>>240666053
It does nothing. You don't kill it, but it can't kill you. But it drops a lot of power ups. SO more score. A boss before this also has a very rare moment where it self destructs before you even fight it, essentially skipping it. Aero Fighters is a weird fucking game.
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>>240665704
>is that pure RNG and rare?
Yes, it's really fucking rare. You normally get a regular final boss, but very, and I mean VERY rarely, you get this instead.
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>>240694378
I see Video System really liked the RNG thing for bosses lmao
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>>240694542
I shit you not, this is the first time I've ever had that happen to me. Same goes for what I said>>240694234.
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>>240694234
>>240694378
Are you Project A-Ko?
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>>240694634
When I played Sengoku Ace for the 2-ALL I only got three bombs in the town stage once or twice and that is also random. These guys.
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It fucking happened again!!
>>240694872
>Sengoku Ace
I'm pretty sure that's Psikyo, not Video System. Although the dude that developed the game, did create Aero Fighters.
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>>240695182
>It fucking happened again!!
Was it perhaps after loading a state? In my experience with the games by Video System and Psikyo, some of their RNG has triggers based on where you are. Like, if you pass a certain point in a stage, the RNG will have been decided already, as if it's decided in a particular frame of it. So if you save state after this point, you'll always get the same result. Observable in, say, Sengoku Ace's fourth boss, which can't be manipulated like equivalent later Psikyo ones.
These games share several common people and design choices. Psikyo was created by part of the team that made the first Sonic Wings.
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psiyko, more like kusyo cuz their games are SHIT
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>>240694872
Don't forget the secret endboss. This weird japanese washbear thing
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>>240695617
>Was it perhaps after loading a state?
No, it wasn't loading a state. New play through.
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>>240695704
psikyo games are awesome, but they are pretty annoying to learn
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>>240696062
Time to buy a lottery ticket lmao

>>240696207
How are they annoying to learn? They are quite straightforward.
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>>240696636
>How are they annoying to learn? They are quite straightforward.
Because you can't react at all in 2nd loops. It's just savestate practice after savestate practice after savestate practice... Just hardcore memo.
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I'm making a new thread but having issues because the field is too long to fit everything, so wait for a moment.

>>240696993
Yeah but it's not too annoying to figure out. I see what you mean at least. That being said who the fuck expects to be able to react in these.
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sdoj on steam soon lads
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>>240697610
>That being said who the fuck expects to be able to react in these.
Nobody ever said anything about expecting something, dumbfuck. All I am saying is just that the learning curve in psikyo games usually is annoyingly steep. Not really a pleasant experience to learn them.
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>>240698640
Disagreed, I find them more fun to learn due to how they're built than many other shmups.
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>>240698438
no caves for you
cos you too poor for an xbox and smell of poo
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>>240698818
Yea, because you never tried learning the hard ones and their 2nd loops.
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>>240698850
but I do have an cavebox kraut
why are mad?
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>>240698923
alled strikers 1,2,3,gunbird 1,2, sengoku ace.
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>>240699210
>this again
post proof
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What are the best hamster shmups on ps4?
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>>240698923
Of couuurse lmao

>>240699210
Why do you post for me nigga. I have barely played the Gunbirds and you missed Sonic Wings which I've actually played.
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