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>Fallout 76 Resources:
https://pastebin.com/PeizAY9T

>Fallout 1 and 2 Resources:
http://pastebin.com/mtYCtDLV

>Fallout 3 and New Vegas Resources:
http://pastebin.com/u29WKkGy
https://pastebin.com/B1L6epYp
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ci3sNT0wcrbjETw4sM7JqlK-zmcjoLqJFSjqhmTjk_0/edit?usp=sharing

>Fallout 4 Resources:
https://pastebin.com/EL3CCTS4

>Creation Club Stuff:
https://pastebin.com/n192BFGD

>/fog/ Asset and Mod Repository
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=752795517

>GUNetwork:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1EpTVxrWtFtzuc0L2nYhAOLWdLhG_uXA7
https://yadi(period)sk/d/oVoT7HuajZue9

>Rips (Primarily for NV):
https://mega.nz/#F!crJz0LZb!WIH3QNagELMoiHrefK_dqA
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/6lyy201y5yca9/Fallout_New_Vegas

>How to Convert Skyrim / Oblivion / NV / FO3 etc. Models to FO4 & Bodyslide Guide:
http://pastebin.com/MWEPKj5m

>OP Pasta:
https://pastebin.com/iY42a2Wi

Pre-War thread: >>236789303
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the Enclave is pretty neat :)
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https://youtu.be/MGLTgt0EEqc
https://youtu.be/MGLTgt0EEqc
https://youtu.be/MGLTgt0EEqc
https://youtu.be/MGLTgt0EEqc
https://youtu.be/MGLTgt0EEqc
TODD IS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF
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>>236835279
buns
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>>236835279
>Accidently updated my FO4
>F4SE broke so now i cant fap because all my loverslab shit broke as well
FUCK
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>tfw Obsidian saved Fallout yet again
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Daily reminder power armor guys have big dicks
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>>236835272
I hope they tone down the Redditness
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>>236835272
I get the feeling it's 10 hours long
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>>236835272
>nu-obsidian
Yeah, I think I'll pass anon.
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>>236835279
unironically cringe
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How does one obtain the jetpack for x01? Just server hop whitesprjngs?
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Is vortex good Bros?
I've been using NNM for years now but things just don't work the same as they used to so I'm thinking of switching to Vortex for modding New Vegas (not 4 as NNM is still working well with it)
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>>236835610
what do you mean by this
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oh god furries at the games award show
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>>236835765
I mean I hope they tone down the Redditness
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>>236835272
>less than 30 seconds in
>goes full Rick and Morty
JUST

The only thing good in that trailer is The Passenger.
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>>236835809
>goes full Rick and Morty
No they haven't you dumb nigger
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>>236835691
Can't be worse than FO76. r-right?
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>>236835809
yeah but didn't Bethesda do that whole Rick and Morty promotion
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>>236835538
>game clearly doesnt have the slightest link to Fallout outside of "FROM THE CREATORS OF"
>setting is plainly much closer to Borderlands
>trailer dialogue is trash
>muh diversity skins on half the characters appearing in the trailer
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So the 76 overseer is straight up fucking dead, right? Mountainside kinda makes it seem that way.
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>>236835859
>Morty, I'm a video game!
Defend this.

>>236835919
SJWyer is still at Obsidian, that poorly animated woman with short hair will be a lesbian 100% guaranteed.
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Hey guys remember that time that anon thought people who DIDNT cave in to corporate shills and mindless consumerism were the ones that got their money taken?
Its a crazy world out there, dont forget to bring your nylon bag, pipboys, and power armor helmets just in case you run into any baddies guys.
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>>236835805
yeah what do you mean by this
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>>236835913
There's a difference between cross-promo ads and making rick and morty in your game
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>>236836114
the difference is one is an old man who you think looks like Rick and the other was actually Rick and Morty
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>>236836039
why post if you don't have anything construction to say?
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>>236835919
I mean, should they have made just a Fallout clone?
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>>236836039
Wow you stay woke and stick it to the corporations destroying gaming bro I can't believe nobody else figured out but you
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>>236836270
>anything construction to say
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does Wastleland 2 make a good surrogate timewaster? not going to jump to FO76 because I'm a friendless loner who hates listening to people yap.
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Honestly kinda feel bad for Bethesda right now
They just lost ALL of their fans to Obsidian
Even the ones who loved Fo3
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>>236836216
>same lolsowacky xD humor
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>fucking NPCs not buying a triple A game and bullying a multi-billion dollar coroporation who is just trying to make games for us
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>>236836426
proof?
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>>236835761
Seriously, the more I think about it the more it makes sense. He even jumped instantly at the chance to have her alive again in some form as part of the ship none of his bravado none of his bargaining or instinctive charm just a mild hesitation to say it MIGHT work then bam he was at it doing all the work himself just like he told her he would. It just makes the dick punch han pulls at the end even worse because how lando's a cuck for the next decade or so while han rides his girl around town and taking her to every seedy bar he can. Fuckers so devastated he falls back into living off the grid in seclusion over a fucking gas giant in a station FULL of droids he owns. Hell, C-3PO ends up in one of his darker sex dungeons one time in the OG trilogy where all his broken toys go to sit in the dark but not get thrown away or repaired.
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>>236836463
That's what you get when you hire on the Rick and Morty people.
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>>236836513
we don't believe in proof in this general
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>>236836295
Don't worry, there's an army of clickbaiting Youtubers fighting the good fight and making sure that no game is ever released with bugs again, also be sure to like and subscribe to get your opinion on other games you don't care about.

>>236836401
76 is playable solo, and just mute voice chat. That said, Wasteland 2 didn't scratch my CRPG Fallout itch when I played it but that was back when it released and I haven't tried the enhanced version or whatever.
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>>236835272
This looks very generic, setting and plot appear totally flat and basic. Even they add depth to it, its something that's been done tons of times before.
It doesn't look it'll have much of what made classic fallout good, which was a unique setting for a game and a very solid atmosphere made through its setting, plot and rpg elements.
Still looking forward to it, but I was hoping for something more unique than this.
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>>236836630
that's a shame
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>>236836513
I mean just look anywhere on the internet.
And now that Obsidian is making an open world first perosn RPG
Well Bethesda doesn't stand chance
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>ubisoft makes a fallout
>obisdian makes a starfield
>bethesda tries to fix their consumer support
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>>236836270
Wow what an insightful post, we need to stick it to these alt righters. Have some 4 channel gold good sir ;-)
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>>236836751
At least it will have NPCs.
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>>236836705
>implying you have to sub on youtube to learn about video games
>implying you cant just use ad block and totally remove all ads from youtube
>implying people who dislike the game are the only ones that browse for reviews

WEW
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>Jump in the blades of the earth mover.
>Nothing happens
I shouldn't be surprised...
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>>236836767
lol that's just circumstance and talk, not proof
>>236836776
why are you inferring that they were talking about alt righters?
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>>236835272
We're finally getting another Fallout! Yay!
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>>236836286
If it was a clone of Fallout 1 or 2, I'd be happy.
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Damn, i mean everyone knows that Obsidian makes better RPGs than Bethesda but imagine if they manage to get proper shooting mechanics down as well now.
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>>236836937
>stay woke

only cringy leftists use that phrase
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>>236835272
That's still from their contract with Take Two, before Microsoft isn't it? So relatively low budget compared to whatever Microsoft may be willing to pour into any future XboXoneX exclusive titles.
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>>236837123
How fucking underage are you rambling about leftists and the corporations.
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>From the developers of Fallout: New Vegas

So how come they didn't say Tyranny or Deadfire. Hmnn?
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>>236837228
t. Hillary voter
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>>236836906
They'll buy it in droves because Obsidian made the game.
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>>236837294
Because not only is it the best Fallout game, it's the best Obsidian game.
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>>236837361
>Because not only is it the best Fallout game,
Wrong
>it's the best Obsidian game.
Arguably correct, since nothing they've done in the last eight years was worth playing.
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>>236836751
>but I was hoping for something more unique than this.
You don't understand
Bethesda is fucked now that an actual competent company is making a first perosn open world RPG
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>>236835530
>loverslab
has FO4 content caught up on Skyrim's level?
haven't tried any since I've got my hands full keeping my game from not exploding after each update
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>>236837417
What's the best Fallout game?
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>>236837294
It was their last good game

Also to shit on Bethesda by basically saying they made the only good Fallout titles
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>>236835272
How many bugs do you think it will have?
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>>236837294
Because fans of 1st person shooterRPGs are more likely to buy this 1st person shooterRPG than fans of isometric cRPGs?
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>>236837361
That's actually KotOR 2.
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>>236837447
Was there an interview on stage that said it's open world or an RPG? Because with Microsoft funding it I doubt it'll be any more of an RPG than Fallout 4 is, and open world is not Obsidian's strong suit.

>>236837465
2. NMA can suck my dick.
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>>236837447
What? Who cares? I'm worried about how good the game will be. Not some inane corporate rivalry.
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>>236837501
more than NV but less than FO76
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>>236837501
I dunno, but I can't wait to play it 3 months after release when it doesn't crash hourly.
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>>236837447
Not quite, open world games have been exploding in recent years but none of them compete with Bethesda because none of them do open world the way Bethesda does. Take a look at Witcher 3, one of the most popular open world RPGs. Its nothing like a bethesda title. All open world games are still very much stuck in the trappings of copying GTA.
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>>236837560
Good choice.
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>>236837560
It's obviously going to be an Open world RPG

>Because with Microsoft funding it I doubt it'll be any more of an RPG than Fallout 4 is
What? It'll have FAR more choices and RPG elements than 4 did(That's not hard tho)
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>>236837560
>FO2
Shouldn't you be looking forward to Oblivion presents Rick&Morty in Borderlands then?
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>>236837448
It's getting there. Plenty of good animation packs available and tons of content from nexus mods work with the stuff on loverslab.
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>>236837790
*BURP*
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>>236837714
>but none of them compete with Bethesda
And that's Obsidian is about to show them how it's done. Bethesda's "open" worlds aren't exactly hard to do
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>>236837790
No, I've got no faith in Obsidian these days. Avellone's interviews after cutting ties just confirmed my worst fears.
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>>236837560
>Microsoft funding it
This is funded by TakeTwos Private Divsion. Contract from before the MS buyout.
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Man if Starfield doesn't look like the best game of all time at E3 2019 then Bethesda is just fucked
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>>236837228
you started it by going on about how people who didnt by the game were being deceived by 'outrage culture and revenue". I'm just throwing your own book back in your face retard
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>>236837901
I hope so anon, but by going by their last few games I wouldn't get my hopes up
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>Farcry:fallout even has a cuter doggo
>and CARS
damn todd
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>>236838040
>but by going by their last few games
Those were shitty kickstarter CRpgs.
Trust me Anon
This game will put the final nail in Todd's coffin
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>>236835272
I'm interested, but if this fails its probably going to be the end of Obsidian.
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So what exactly is the benefit of concentrated fire? Is doing headshots with it so great that it's worth it?
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>>236837901
>Bethesda's "open" worlds aren't exactly hard to do
The lack of competitors and imitators would disagree with you. Until Fallout 76 they worked with a relatively small team and budget compared to other major releases and made very profitable games. If it was easy to do I'm sure plenty of imitators would have popped up to get a slice of that pie.

>>236838216
Somebody post that pic of the BBS post about Daggerfall being a slap in the face of Arena fans and surely the company will fold.

>>236838276
MS owns them. They'll get turned into a support studio at worst.
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>>236838318
Automatic weapons with low ap costs.
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>>236837294
their only accomplishment is that they made fallout 1 and new vegas, what do you expect? It's the only way they can get sales
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>>236838216
Didn't people say the same thing when the Witcher 3 came out?
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>>236838276
Nah this is their last obligation for T2 and from that point on theyll be forced to make some systemseller for xbox.
If THAT fails they get fucked.
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>>236838357
>The lack of competitors
Sure in the past
But now we have two well respected studios(CD Project Red and Obsidian) making these Bethesda type games. If Bethesda doesn't step up their game with Starfield, well they're done for.
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> New F4SE out! YAY!
> Update it properly!
> Game crashes on loading of a file.

Damnit.
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>>236838495
yeah and Bethesda is in shambles now. All thanks to TW3.
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>>236838647
lol?
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>>236835272
How long until actual gameplay footage comes out?
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>>236838530
i never played a farcry game since 3 but don't their games start to become more of a competion the more bethesda goes toward the openworld shooter meme and less RPG?
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>>236838647
Dude Fallout 4 sold so fucking well
What're you talking about. Now Fallout 76 weakened their reputation and if they continue what they're doing then....

>>236838742
I'd say E3
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>>236838530
Obsidian trades on its past glories and has few of the people who made their good games still employed. CDPR? We'll see once Cyberpunk comes out, I don't know that it will necessarily be in the same vein as Bethesda's first person games. I'm anticipating it to be closer to an immersive sim with Witcher-esque RPG quest structure.

>>236838784
They're so very different still, Far Crys are pure action games while Fallouts are ARPGs.
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God could you imagine if Outer World and Starfield release the same year...
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>>236839128
It'd be fantastic, I'd get two sci-fi games to play and you'd get to cry about how sheeple don't know good games when Starfield sold more.
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>>236839230
>2 new games and obsidian fans get to play the victim again
2019 going to be a good year!
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>>236835272
>First-person only
nah
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>metro looks good
>farcry looks good
>outerworld looks good
>pete has to turn tricks to pay for the lawsuits soon
damn christmas came early
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>>236835272
Fallout's dead, imagine spending time looking for fucking "Handmade Rifle plans" and shit and grinding "caps" and shit when you could be looking forward to Fallout 4 in fucking space. New Vegas was Fallout 3 by the way. Bethesda Fallout is no longer canon, Obsidian rises, Black Isle for life
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>>236839583
>Bethesda Fallout is no longer canon
Never been canon in the first place.
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>>236839439
I just doubt Starfield is coming out next year, I'd peg it for a year or more after the new console generation launches.
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>>236836114
Oh I watched Rick and Morty get made into Bethesda's game for 3 straight hours, they cleared fucking Summerville 3 times, it was mind numbingly dull.
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DID SOMEONE MENTION HANDMADE RIFLE PLANS
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>>236839494
>>outerworld looks good
Does anyone unironically believe this? It's just borderlands without the artstyle. Boneless Borderlands.
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>>236839829
get some rest todd it's been a tough week
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>>236839629
The ad admits that Obsidian made Fallout 1 and 2 and New Vegas though, proof. Bethesda is weak to allow them to claim the truth, they never let them claim it before. These claims stand in stark contrast to Todd's performance with 76. Still don't have Handmade Rifle plans, so Todd had best acquiesce. No re-stat for going over level 15 without hanging around Harper's Ferry, since apparently that's the way you're meant to play the game.
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>>236839748
I wonder if people are getting fired for all the trainwrecks
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>>236839829
But anon, there are CHOICES. And they probably matter!
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>>236839952
And they're all equally boring.
c.f. Pillars of Eternity and Torment.
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All that's missing now is that slimy rat Randy Pitchford coming on stage and announcing Borderlands 3 and Todd gets an aneurism.
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>>236839940
As we know from the trainwrecks, they aren't planning on doing anything about it
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>>236839940
The only one that would warrant it is whomever fucked up with the ticket system
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>>236839940
The Bethesda leaker on /v/ who is totally legit and certainly not a LARPer said heads are rolling
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Why did they make it so hard to get good X-01 mods!
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>>236840328
They only spawn in between level 15 and level 25
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>>236840207
He's 99% likely a LARPer but heads will be rolling simply because of the bad PR. Probably why Pete hasn't been seen for weeks, he's either already been fired or is working on putting out the dumpster fire before he resigns. There won't be shit on the studio(s?) but the PR department are all sweating, I guarantee it.
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>>236840328
Watching you suffer over that is unrinocally the only enjoyment i get out of FO76.
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>>236840138
People like you are why people like Emil still have jobs
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>>236840328
Keep grinding you stupid pig.
Grind! Grind like your live depends on it.
and maybe, MAYBE, i'll allow you to buy one from the Atom shop.
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Whoever made this glorious bastard, any chance you can help me get close to a recreation? I have a 280 phrase soundboard I made for the Friday the 13th game and would have a blast recreating some of those hijiinks here.
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>>236840475
Because I know enough about the world to know that's the only fuck-up that would warrant a firing?
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MODUS!
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>>236840869
You're talking to a zoomer who has never had a job and gets his opinions from e-celebs m8, don't bother.
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>>236840475

>Firing your old talent instead of promoting them into irrelevance and keeping them around as a senior lore consultant.
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>>236840475
This makes no sense as the titles Emil was in charge of were incredibly popular.
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>>236835272
>door stops going down
>guy mashes all the buttons
>it starts working again
Call me fucking reddit but that got me
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>>236841014
>it's popular so it's good
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>>236841168
>if it's not popular it's only because of a smear campaign by youtubers and /v/
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Why is it so hard to build what you want?
I hate that its still better than most other building systems I've used in games.
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>>236840475
what did he literally mean by this?
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>>236841168
Yes,this is how thing works
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>>236835272
It literally looks like 'Borderlands : New Vegas'

I love both Borderlands AND New Vegas so it might be good? For me at least
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>>236841216
well emil shits out terrible stories and people keep eating them up so he doesn't have to try I guess
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>>236841168
I hope Obsidian Presents Borderlands: Reddit & Morty Edition is popular so you can't enjoy it.

>>236841238
I'd be excited if NV wasn't the last good game Obsidian released. They aren't the studio they used to be.
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>>236841195
fucking sims has a better system m8 what are you on about
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>>236840328

Buff what're your thoughts on Obsidian's new Bethesda killer?
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>>236841217
No it isn't. Popular opinion simply decides on, well, popularity. Quality is only one of many factors that can decide on popularity.
>it's popular because it's popular
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>>236841447
Sims isnt a great comparison.
I'm talking about other survival games.
Many dont even let you move objects once they are placed and its stupid as fuck, others dont have a quick crafting system forcing you to haul materials and pieces across your area. They are just tedious compared to this ones, and this ones system is still so damn bad compared to something thats centered around that kind of stuff like you said with sims rather than stapled on the side like this and F4.
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>>236841517
on the one hand it doesn't have big titty waifus. but on the other hand it has lizards and bugs he can jack off to
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>>236841589
Said titles were also critically well received but please tell us how that's wrong too
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>>236835272
The only thing this game will kill is Obsidian
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>>236841786
>critics matter as long as they validate my opinion
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>>236841390
>They aren't the studio they used to be.
I won't say I'm already about to drop a preorder, but I think it has promise. It's worth keeping an eye on at least.
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>>236837294
maybe because obsidian has 2 internal teams and one of them worked on tyranny/pillars while the other (the nv team) has been working on outer worlds since 2016.
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>>236842053
talk about delusional, lmao
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>>236841690
>bigass gaudy marble statue on 8 inch wooden floor without visible supports
That's a major safety hazard anon
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>>236841959
For sure. I'd love them to make something I want to play again, but I was disappointed with PoE and the less said about Tyranny the better.
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>>236835272
I dunno how they managed to make it look worse than Fallout 4 or 76
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>>236841853
Todd go to sleep
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>>236841194
Anon. Go look at the user scores and what people are saying.
They're not legit and you know it.
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>>236842053
Obsidian isn't a big studio. You can safely assume many of the same people are those who're working on both titles. The difference is just in the writers and directors.
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>>236842130
it isnt a secret. theyve even given that team their own brand name now as you saw in the trailer.
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>>236835272
>from the original creators of fallout
>and fallout new vegas
lmao
i love nu-fallouts and 76, but that was hilarious
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>>236842254
>it's only legit when it validates my opinion
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>>236842165
He shouldn't have gone for non-union labor.

>>236842254
You don't even have to go that far, just look at the requirements to post a user review on Metacritic.
>Can you make a throwaway email address?
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>>236842225
See
>>236842232
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>>236842428
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>>236842330
Private Division isn't Obsidian you dipshit, it's a Take Two imprint.
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>>236842165
I'm sorry anon, If it helps I added supports to the outside.

>>236842403
>He shouldn't have gone for non-union labor.
Never use cheap robot labor. They broke more than they built.
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>Targeting HUD

yeeeeeeeeee
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>>236842695
You didn't answer my question buff
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Did they drop the Entertainment from Obsidian Entertainment when Pillars and Tranny were so boring they almost killed the company?
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>>236842695
get a load of this sad nigger
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>>236842695
Would using it at the white spring make all robots instantly hostile to you?
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>>236842853
>sad
But he seems quite enthused by getting that item???
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Cait has never worn the nuka girl outfit in my game because it's not really her style and she doesn't seem like she would want to, but I often imagine what she would look like.
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>>236842932

It just highlights shit so you can see them, especially in the woods at night.
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>>236842750
Maybe
But now they're about to koll another company *cough Bethesda cough*
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>>236842351
>Shit game 0/10 is totally legit
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>>236830664
Modern Firearms mod has FAL.
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>>236841517

I watched it a little bit ago, kinda looks like a mix between Borderlands and No Man's Sky.

Looks pretty cool I guess.
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>>236843496
dragbody has gone too far this time
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>>236843338
Somebody please post that screenshot of that Usenet discussion about how Morrowind would kill Bethesda because it will be a shit game.
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>>236843294
Caitfag what're your thoughts on Obsidian's new Bethesda killer?
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>>236843680
Looks great, and I look forward to learning more about it and about Starfield.
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>>236835272
>From the ORIGINAL creators of Fallout
>And the developers of Fallout: New Vegas
SHOTS FIRED
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>>236843836
>and about Starfield.
Same
I really hope Starfield is good
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Anonfags what is your 2 cents on Obsidian's new Bethesda killer?
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>>236844347
could be big.
trailer seemed a bit generic though and the dyke seems obnoxious. I want to go out with beers with the old dude tho.
Keep me posted.
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That guy who always baits with /pol/ shit, what's your thoughts on Obsidian's new Bethesda killer?
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>>236844347
Pandering too hard out of ten.
Looks good tho
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Anyone got those new Fallout 4 Creation Club files?
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>>236844347
Can't say for sure until I see gameplay, but I'm hopeful. Tim Cain & the gang have a huge pedigree in roleplaying games so my expectations are at least on New Vegas tier.
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>>236844347
it's giving me flashbacks to borderlands 2 that make it impossible for me to get hyped, that game broke my heart
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>>236844347
Expecting nothing due to Obsidian's recent track record, but would love to be proved wrong.
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>>236844347
Forgotten 2 weeks after release and only brought up for shitposting purposes
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>>236844582
>Obsidian's recent track record
What is their recent track record? Last Obsidian game I played was Armored Warfare, which was fucking great.

Until the publishers ran out of vodka and potatos and kicked Obsidian out to literally copy pixel for pixel World of Tanks
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>>236844731
>Pillars of Boredom
>Tranny
>Pillars of Boredom 2: Proof that CRPG fans are so starved they'll fund a sequel to a turd
The last good RPG they made was New Vegas.
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>>236844892
>He was bored by PoE
ADHD Zoomer opinion discarded
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>>236835272
And so it begins
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>>236844986
t. born after 9/11 and overcompensating for cred
Even Icewind Dale had a more engaging story than PoE, and it was about as barebones as it could possibly be.
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>>236845130
Confirmed for never actually playing Icewind Dale. Literally no one that's ever played that game would say it has a story.

There's hardly even a fucking map outside of the never ending stream of dungeonous dungeoning dungeons.
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>>236845276
And STILL it kept me more interested than Pillars of Snore.
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>>236844508
Just the zetan pack here
https://ufile.io/fcn2w
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Anyone else like to go around shitting on people's camps and workshops just to fuck with people?

PVP is broken as fuck, especially with all this pacifist mode bullshit so I do whatever I can to remind the carebears how casual they are.
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>>236845452
>I'm hardcore, look at me vandalizing people's shit in this baby game
Why aren't you playing a real shooter since you're obviously a Chad?
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>>236845408
You must have autism then because at least PoE had character back stories and dialogue choices.

Icewind Dale was literally a straight line through dungeons to the ending. No backstories, no choices, only combat.
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>>236845452
Why not just play one of the many games geared toward what you want?
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Why is quick travel so expensive?
>get a quest
>quests tells you to get item
>item on other side of the map
>90 caps there and back
>20 caps reward for the quest.
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>>236845671
Hmmmmmm could it be because they are trying to artificially inflate play time? Nah.
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>>236845452
I love to wreck workshops all day.
Leave my camp alone though.

>>236845538
>>236845582
Because messing with people can be fun.

>>236845671
>have camp on one side of map
>vault 76 on the other
Not that hard anon
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>>236845452
>see someone has fortified Poseidon and has the fusion core generator running
>drop mines all around it
>causes the core creator to break when he trips them going for cores
>he repairs it
>I shotgun his gennies
>calls me toxic and repairs it again, then builds a big fucking wall of cement barricades around it
>I start lobbing grenades over it and blow the core creator again.
>dude has a complete meltdown over voice chat calling me toxic, screaming, begging me to just take some cores and fuck off
>my face when I sledge his workshop benches and stash box to pieces as he screams.
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>>236845582
In those games people can hurt him back.

>>236845671
>why do they incentivize people to actually run places in this survival game
The real question is why they left quick travel in at all.
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>>236845671
>take over most workshops safely because people are pussies
>make back money spent getting there and taking it over with repeatable defense quests
>fast travel to around the map for free afterward
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Is it safe to form some sort of RP bandit group with homies in fo76 or will I get banned for being too toxic?
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>>236845981
You will get banned. Fallout 76 is a safe space. Don't tread on me please.
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>>236845981
You'll get bored because most people won't resist and those who do will BTFO you with farmed or duped legendaries.
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>>236845860
>The real question is why they left quick travel in at all.
So people can join in on events, most notably the scorchbeast queen, without having to sprint for ages in the hopes of joining in.

>>236845981
Depends on whether or not you film it/encounter some faggot streamer.
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>>236845981
Don't use "hate speech" and you'll be fine.
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>>236845452
>see someone has the munitions factory
>steal their ammo and change it to producing .38
>hide in a corner
>everytime they fast travel over and change it to .45 or whatever I change it back to .38
>guy finally finds me when a defence quest starts and a bunch of fucking molerats aggro on me
>I level absolutely every object he has constructed there and then start to claim the workshop for myself
>he just up and logs off
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>F4SE just updated
FINALLY. I learned my fucking lesson this time and downloaded the .exe backup tool so I dont have to deal with bathesda and their worthless updates ever again
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>>236845981
>RP
If you actually roleplay instead of be a dick for no reason people will probably enjoy it.

>>236846071
That makes sense but why not restrict it to events or have some sort of in-game fast travel like saying the Responders repaired the railway and put bot-operated carriages on them so you can only fast travel from one station to another?
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Why do miniguns use 5mm? Why the fuck don't they just use 5.56mm? Like what the fuck even is 5mm?
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>>236845860
>why they left quick travel in at all.
Because they don't want to program vehicles, and movement is too slow overall. Events would never be completed if you couldnt easily get to them.
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>>236845451
That's LITERALLY all I wanted.
Thank you, based anon.
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>>236846314
>That makes sense but why not restrict it to events or have some sort of in-game fast travel like saying the Responders repaired the railway and put bot-operated carriages on them so you can only fast travel from one station to another?
Because they would justify the use of caps being needed to fast travel and that is far too good an idea for Bethesda.
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>>236840397
Not aware of any limit to Pete Hines' arrogance, not interested in discussing his future at Bethesda
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>Bethesda shitting the bed nonstop with fallout 76
>Obsidian announces a Fallout killer
Real talk. What is bethesda going to do at this point? Even the diehard ledditor fans are mocking the game.
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>>236844347
It reminds me of Firefly. I hated Firefly.
Also I'm so tired of seeing the same recycled "Plucky group of malcontents vs. evil corporation" over and over again. I hope it's good, but the trailer did nothing for me.
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>>236846314
>from one station to another
Theres no station in the mire.

The faction headquarters could have gotten you free fast travel as you completed them.
You start with 76 in the forest, then the responders at the airport for toxic valley access, the top of the world is raiders of course, then certain bunker for the free states in the mire and bos hq for travel near cranberry. The final faction would finally get you a fast travel near the ash heap.
A trading hub would have done wonders as well for the game.
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>>236846645
Real talk, using the term "anything killer" is a surefire way to doom the game from the start. See any of the multitude of "WoW killers".
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>>236846798
>Theres no station in the mire.
Yeah, but obviously in my hypothetical situation you'd have the map set up to provide access somehow.

>>236846645
>Real talk. What is bethesda going to do at this point?
Stop trying to make multiplayer games and go back to singleplayer. They have Starfield and the next TES game to release before they have to make another Fallout so they can let the stink die down on that name.
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>>236846645
I'd be more inclined to called Far Cry New Dawn a Fallout Killer than Obsidian's Borderlands clone. That trailer was terribly uninspiring.
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>>236846812
>he doesn't know that it's fans coining the "X-Killer" moniker for games
>he actually thinks developers are openly calling their game the "X-Killer" in a time when even disney sues the pants off fans for having pokemon themed events.
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>>236846645
Calling it a 'Fallout killer' is very, very premature. It looks like it could be good but trailers can be oh so disappointing compared to the real thing. I'm cautiously hopeful but reserve judgement until I know more.
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>>236844347
>Spacenogs
>Hurr durr evil capitalist corporations! Communism rocks!
>Rick & Morty
it's like borderlands + reddit. Why cant I work for the corporations instead and crush all the little guys? Tyranny let you be the bad guy, so I want that kind of gameplay again.
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>>236846979
Yeah I just thought having it based on the factions works better and needed less to make sense than bot carriages. It also lets people get them by following the mq so idiots wont have as many issues hopefully.
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>>236847101
>Tyranny let you be the bad guy
Didn't play it.
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So what all do you need to set off a nuke?
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Scrapper been patched yet?
I'll play again when it has
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>>236847101
Why do they have to be evil capitalist corporations? Maybe they're evil state-owned communist corporations like in China.
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>>236847335
Because they want to teach children that capitalism is bad.
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Have they fixed the disarm grenade xp exploit yet?
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>>236847035
>some retard thinks I think Obsidian called it's game the fallout killer
>he thinks I think all those MMO's called themselves WoW killers
Anon, you may seriously have brain damage. The games industry plays nice. There's no game studio that would do something like that. Loosen the straps on your helmet. Your brain need Oxygen.
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>>236847397
It is when it's unregulated, just like any other system that can be exploited.
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>>236847454
Yes.
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>>236847454
Yes.

>>236847467
This. If nobody has asked Todd what he thinks of the Outer Worlds on Twitter yet somebody should, because there's two possible answers:
1) I haven't seen the trailer yet.
or
2) I'm excited to play it when it comes out.

There is no rivalry. There is no seething hatred. That comes from /v/ getting emotionally invested in fucking companies that make their entertainment.
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Okay I'm getting fed up with this garbage.
I have a god damn shitty bug in 76 thats permanently affecting my characters charisma and agility.
I tried taking everything off and relogging and using addictol/cures.
I'm about to fucking give up until they fix it because I really dont want to make a new character. Maybe the respec update will do something for it.

Any ideas?
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>>236847335
>>236847101
Evil megacorporations have been a sci-fi staple for decades. Weyland-Yutani, Tyrell Corporation, and so on. People have loved to hate giant, soulless corporate machines sine as long as I can remember.
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>From the makers of "real fallout games"
Obsidian is really spitting fire at Bethesda.
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>>236847335
Capitalism is evil incarnate
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>>236847738
Yeah but election tourists have taken over 4channel so you're not allowed to dislike corporations, their god emperor said so.
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>>236847923
More like no one knows what Obsidian's other games are
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>>236847738
>implying any zoomers know what Weyland-Yutani is
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>>236848042
>From the makers of Pillars of Eternity
That F2P Diablo clone?
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>>236848072
It's one of the best known fictional megacorps with more-or-less Alien movies involving them still being released to this day.
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>>236847190
Anyone? Also what happens if my call is in the blast radius
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>>236847686
Give more details?
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>>236848072
I really, really hope that at the very least the people posting in this thread do.

Jesus don't say these things, you're making me feel old as fuck.
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>get playing fallout again starting with NV as a lever action shotgun cowboy
>get a weird urge to play while drunk
>do so
>few days later a case of sarsaparilla soda comes in the mail
>wtf.jpg
>check amazon and apparently ordered a few days ago
>not bad
>not great
>but not bad
>mix with rum
>its good
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>>236848072
Alien isolation came out 4 years ago and was big with the twitch crowd
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>>236848072
Dammit anon, stop ruining my day.
At least my little bother would recognize that name. He loved playing all the shit he saw me on back in the good ol days.
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>>236835272
>Capitalism is bad again
Exact same plot over and over jesus christ, just nuke California
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>>236848338
>capitalism is good
Get a load of this goy
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>>236841195
>make shitty base to see how high the build ceiling is
>place a ladder
>cannot built onto that ladder
>reach the ceiling
>try to delete ladder
>cannot delete ladder
thanks bethesda
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>>236848072
>Weyland-Yutani
who?
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>>236848338
Not just yet, keep letting San Fran shithole keep going off the rails first to get all the mentally ill and homeless population into their streets first. Then nuke the shit out of the place.
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>doing high level events
>every single player uses power armor
I think it's time for a nerf
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>>236848426
This is bait right? Half a dozen people said what it was before this was posted.

At the best here's a (you) now move along
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>>236848402
>the same plot over and over again is ok because it fits my ideology!
Fuck off California
>>236848451
If you took all the people in California who are at poverty or below you would have a population higher than 32 US states
There are enough there already
Nuke it
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a lot of games have an evil religion.
a lot of games have an evil country.
a lot of games have an evil individual.
an evil corporation is just one of the common big baddies.

even within fallout, we see some bad guys that break the above molds. "factions" get to be something besides one of those above.

Borderlands was evil corporation though, and this game screams "we want the borderlands audience", so I think that's where a bit of that impression comes from.
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>>236848606
>an evil corporation is just one of the common big baddies
It's not "a corporation" it's Capitalism and it's been there bad guy in nearly everyone of their games
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>>236848237
No matter what I try my cha is stuck at 4 with the minus symbol next to it. Its suppose to be at 5.
Its happened with my agi as well but thats less noticeable when trying to share cards.
It was worse at one point but en-equiping everything and relogging fixed it back to 4 at least thank jebus.

I currently use underarmor with +1 cha and stuff to compensate but fuck its annoying.
I read that F4 has a bug that can permanently lower/raise your perception as well so wonder if its related.
Basically it has to do with how stat debuffs are applied with resistances in 4. Not sure what I would have done to cause it in 76 though.
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>Obsidian gets to use UE4
>Bethesda devs stuck with Creation/Gamebryo
That's just not fair
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>>236847678
Todd, can you please make 2-3 star legendaries possibly drop from the union vs confed pvp event? I tried it and it was fun as fuck, but people aren't up there enough. More carrot. Maybe add gun plans there too for people who cbf making a low level for handmade plans.
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>>236848606
>this game screams "we want the borderlands audience"
For the first and only time, I agree with our resident pet autist.
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>>236835143
anyone know what MRGUTSY fire. it sounds like ballastic but high defense and evasion dont do a damn thing. are they bugged?

its the only thing really that manage to kill me in a no PA build
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>>236835272
oldman at the start reminds me of that one battleborn dude in skyrim
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>>236848770
>Keep voting against your own interests
Ironic.
>flyover cuck
Not even American, anon.
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>>236848606
I found this pie, I wanted to share it with you, but I kinda... ate it. I still love you though Caitfag!
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Perks to decrease the reload time on blackpowder weapons or the single action revolver when? They're fun as hell but not useful.
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>>236848563
It's from Alien? Never recall hearing it but maybe I didn't consider it important enough
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>>236848476
My problem is that I simply cant find good normal armor mno matter what,
I can get around 300/300 defense but fuck its hard to get god drops on armor. At least I'm as durable as my excavator armor (except I'm not because fuck stats), going full leather can get me almost 400 energy resist.
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>>236848730
Capitalism has been the bad guy in nearly every get in the past decade anon
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>>236835272
THATS THE ONE BOYS THATS THE ONE. GOODBYE BETHESDA SO LONG FALLOUT

WERE MOVING ON FORWARD AND IT FEELS GOOD
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>>236835272
This... looks fun.
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>>236848897
dat max hp buff tho
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>>236848735
>he thinks UE4 is good
I'm sorry anon.
Even epic cant make it work right aside from graffix.
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>>236848853
Maybe they have armor pen?

>>236848927
Carry more of them
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>>236848941
>I never recalled hearing it
>Not important

NIGGER WHAT? Did you watch the movies when you were 10?
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>>236848954
Tetris enemy is time
Pong is your oponent
Mario has a Dragon Turtle
Crash has a mad scientist
Your post is a lie
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>>236848897
there are so many nice looking pies. There's a blackberry pie and a few others too.

Normally, when I play fallout 4, I want to send my character a care package of clean food and water like in the hunger games, but in 76 I was actually kind of jealous of my character when she made a bunch of different fruit pies and I was choosing which one to eat.

>ywn bake a bunch of pies and invite all your /fog/ friends and have a picnic on the top of the world
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>>236847738
what about the good megacorporations like vault-tec, robco and nuka cola
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>>236849047
I'd take graffix only over Creation tbqh
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>>236848954
And it will be forever, until corporations start playing games more than individuals do.

>>236849047
Reminder that Ed Boon's brother who doesn't work at Epic discovered how to get UE3 to render at 60fps on consoles while developing Mortal Kombat 2011.
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>>236848476
I agree with this.
>barely degrades
>cores last forever even without perks
>can be found all over the map
>basically invincible and immune to radiation

Honestly what they need to do is make it so you can craft Legendary effects for weapons and armor using Ultracite and flux. This way you can make armor worth using outside of PA and so you don't have to just hope you get a good roll on a weapon. It would also make Ultracite and flux useful outside of making magic underwear. And since there aren't any 5 star enemies/legendaries right now, crafting it would make sense.
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>>236849191
>Every game posted was made 20< years ago
>Decade
Do you know how long a decade is?

>>236849243
That or WW3. The only reason capitalism is so demonized is because it is the "man" in every relevant place on earth except for one
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>excavator armor isnt boosting carry weight
Did I miss something or is my shit broken?
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>>236849228
>Vault-Tec
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>236849228
>vault-tec
The same corporation that conducted all kinds of unethical human experiments on nuclear holocaust survivors?

>robco
Not sure if they were a 'mega' corporation, they seemed a little too specialized, but if they were they were at least somewhat benign.

>nuka cola
IIRC they were pretty aggressive against competition and rather cutthroat. They were the #1 drink not only because of the drink itself being good but also because they quashed competition. Also there's a good possibility that Nuka Cola Quantum might have been really, really, really bad for your health long-term and they didn't care - they only cared about sales.
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>>236849228
wait what
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>>236849324
>Cores last forever
Someone hasn't used PA since the update
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>>236849487
And that's what makes him a Chad.
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What perk cards are they missing, or should add in the future for 76?
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>>236848289
I've never tried Sarsaparilla, but this post made me want to.
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>>236849484
He means in modern (ie Bethesda) Fallout
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>>236849176
Yes, actually. Terminator as well.
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>>236849581
what
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>>236849530
They should consolidate a lot of the damage perk cards. Why do you need 9 points for a single weapon? People like to use two or even three weapons, it shouldn't be this big of a hindrance,
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>>236849228
Good as in well written or good as in ethically? Either way you might want to go to sleep and read the post again in the morning.

>>236849608
I can tell. They were the driving force in everything. So go rewatch them
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>>236849459
>>236849460
wow, smoothbrains cant read sarcasm when it's that blatant
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>>236849530
More specialized, RP-focused ones for gimmicks, like baseball perks that boost melee damage and throw distance but only with bats and baseball grenades, etc.

>>236849571
I started drinking it when NV featured it, but apparently Sarsaparilla is different flavored here in Australia.

>>236849681
That removes the need to specialize. You might as well just give 15 in every SPECIAL at that point.
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>>236849742
Poes law
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>>236849681
The main problem with damage perk cards is that statting 1 point into each tier is more cost-efficient than going all the way. Forcing people to choose damage or utility isnt a problem imo.
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>>236849242
Not when you realize how bug ridden most UE games are, that combined with the extreme simplicity in whats happening in the world makes it a laughable choice compared to shit like fox engine.

>>236849243
>ue3
>relevant to ue4
Reminder to attain more information before posting.
Tons of games ran at 60 fps on console, it means nothing when those games have nothing happening in them compared to even simple shit like just cause or red faction guerrilla that already proved massive destruction isnt an issue on last gen hardware.

>>236849681
You can, 3pts is enough for 30% damage which is plenty for most encounters. If you want MAX damage you should be forced to focus on specific traits.
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>>236849665
In 76 you emerge from your control vault into the wilderness and follow your benevolent vault tec rep to the surface.
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>>236849742
Honestly since robco is never really portrayed as being all that evil, I figured maybe you weren't being sarcastic.

House isn't really evil, just selfish and somewhat fixated on a past vision that likely won't ever be achievable again. His company is big and sprawling but I don't think it's ever really portrayed as being downright bad like Vault-Tec is?
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>>236849681
the damage perk cards should still take 9 points, but they should be consolidated with some of the secondary bonus cards

reload faster, aim down sights better and gain stagger chance (for cards 1 2 and 3 respectively, in jumbled order depending on which attribute it is) should all be effects that join the card on the 2nd star of the perks
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>>236849903
Tier 3 of the damage perks adding reload speed, armor pen, etc, is a change that would be a decent idea.
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>>236849889
control vaults are a tiny percentage of vaults. all the evil experiments were never retcon'ed. Saying "vault tec in bethesda's faullouts is good" would be a grossly inaccurate statement.
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>>236849863
>Not when you realize how bug ridden most UE games are
In comparison with Creation? Respectfully, I wasn't looking for a discussion about best engine and why it's Godot, just stating my disappointment with Bethesda still using Creation like the pennypinchers they are.
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>>236849751
>that removes the need to specialize
>i know how to use rifles really well
>it makes sense this doesn't translate to shotguns
Stop being retarded anon. IF they squished the weapon cards into 6 points it would be a much better system.
>>236849829
I honestly thought that the way 4 did the damage perks was fine, if a little souless and bland. Not that 76 does damage perks and better, at least for flat damage bonuses.
>>236849863
Maybe if you wear PA you can get away with doing unoptimal damage. If I fuck around too much shit will kill me, level appropriate.
>>236849903
I could live with this compromise. It would make sense that being a master "blank" would know how to best use the weapon.
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>>236849896
House is the best evil that New Vegas has, but the man is undoubtedly evil
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>>236849530
i said this yesterday but i think that we should be able to gain 1 extra special point for every 5/10 levels after 50 so that you can eventually have everything
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Anyway to fix the save file loading crash? I just updated F4SE today and was able to play for a bit but now every save I try to load except really old ones crash.
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>>236849889
It's not a control vault. Vault-tec couldn't fuck with it because it was civilian built and owned, so they inserted their own overseer with a secret mission.
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>>236849460
do you think we will have the nuka world colas added or if we will ever be able to craft our own colas
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>>236849903
I like this idea. I fucking despise needing to switch out lockpicking perks with my rifle ones so frequently.

>>236850052
This guy gets it.
>hurrdurr I have a robot army that could be used to defend people and rebuild civilization
>I'm going to the moon with my robosexual waifus
Fuck that guy.
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>>236850094
Even better, god bless Capitalism for saving the people of Vault 76.
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>>236849530
More perks that specialize using alcohol. Right now alcohol has so many perks, but theyre all bland and boring along with the effects liquor gives.

Whats the point of triple effectiveness if youre just getting a temporary boost to a stat?
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>>236850183
>god bless Capitalism
Remind me what Jesus' stance on banking was?
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>>236850272
Selling your cloak for swords iirc
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>>236850017
Yes.
Its down to the devs more than anything else anon.
Thats why shit like Lords of the Fallen and PUBG runs like absolute rubbish using UE4 yet other games can easily scale down to potato at 60fps.

>>236850037
>Maybe if you wear PA you can get away with doing unoptimal damage
If there was a way to actually have resistance to both ballistic and energy we wouldnt need PA all the time.
I can chill in watoga just fine without my PA because i have like 350 energy resist. Ballistic suffers for it though so you have to bring two sets of armor or some shit and at that point why even bother?
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>>236849324
>It would also make Ultracite and flux useful outside of making magic underwear
Prime receivers and their ammo.
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>>236850247
They need to reduce the points cost or increase the bonuses for sure. I was going to make a drunk junkie build for shits and giggles but when I saw how much of a point sink the perks were I gave up.

>>236850343
>If there was a way to actually have resistance to both ballistic and energy we wouldnt need PA all the time.
Marine armor, nigga.
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>>236850343
>Its down to the devs more than anything else anon.
Too early for me to accept that. I was a fanboy up until 76.
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>>236850404
>Marine armor, nigga.
I havent been able to get anywhere near 350 resist in either category with it yet.
Does it get that good? Normal combat armor seems to be ass now.
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>>236850052
Evil's a tad harsh.

Uncaring, sure. Selfish as hell. He has some 'evil' traits but then pretty much everyone does.

But he also has good traites. He seems to genuinely want people to appreciate and enjoy New Vegas, he wants the city to be restored to its glory days. His city can't exist and can't prosper without people in it, and he wants to ensure that there will always be patrons, gamblers, dealers, and everyone needed to keep the city alive and bright.

I wouldn't call him good, not by a long shot. Perhaps a bad person but not outright evil.

At least, not compared to a great many worse factions and leaders out there.
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>>236850272
>it's an atheist cherrypicks bible lines again
No anon. Stop making yourself look like a fool
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>>236850470
All armor is ass until it's modded, honestly.
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>>236850523
>it's a burger thinks Christianity is compatible with capitalism episode
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>>236850465
What are you even trying to say?
If you are actually siding with an engine fag than I'm sorry for your disappointment.
Engines mean literally nothing for quality.
Artists and animators handle the graffix.
The writers handle the stories.
Level designers handle the things you actually walk around in.
Game designers handle the systems that let you interact with all the other aspects
The coders handle making it all not be absolute ass on the engine.
Thats not even counting additional money for VA or marketing and QA. Then you have to take deadlines into account as well.
This is the absolute most simplest brainlet explanation you are going to get as well, take it with a grain of salt.

No company can master all of the above. Its pretty much impossible because as one part becomes more complex the others become that much harder to integrate without bugs.
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>>236850526
Obviously, I just cant find anything that gives 65+ in one category and 25+ in the other like what I currently use.
Does Marine armor come even remotely close to the total averages of above?
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>>236850526
the worst meme is mods that reduce its durability, i do not understand why deep pocketed has to tank my leather arm's durability to the point where it lasts only 30% as long as it should, i walked past a deathclaw and despite having white knight 1 and lucky break 3 all of my armour was broken from full repair
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>>236850806
Please stop this shrieking. Choosing the correct engine for your needs is essential to putting out a good game.

>>236850957
I'd be OK with stuff like pocketed, leaded etc. decreasing max durability if increasing the primary armor quality (studded leather etc.) increased it as much or more.
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It's kind of weird how pro-capitalist/US Nationalism Fallout 4 and 76 are, I suppose thats why most old fans don't like them
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>>236850806
I'm saying I wish Bethesda did get to use other engines than Creation and Gamebryo for their games considering it's easier than ever to license engines. I know how a few languages rather well myself, and while I do not work in game dev full time I have done some contract work in the field. I have no reason to want a discussion on what engine is better or worse (That's not how things work anyways) or, respectfully, statements such as
>Engines mean literally nothing for quality
>The coders handle making it all not be absolute ass on the engine
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Is Basher worthwhile to take on a shotgunner build?
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>>236851314
No.
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>>236851314
Doesn't bashing weaken condition?
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which one should I use /fog/
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>>236851314
whats the point of gun bashing in this game? the delay between bashes is too long, the damage minimal and it costs ap
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>>236851243
>I'm saying I wish Bethesda did get to use other engines than Creation and Gamebryo for their games considering it's easier than ever to license engines.
They're sticking with what they know and what they've tailored to their needs over years. Probably to their detriment, but until they expanded after Fallout 4 Bethesda was actually a B sized studio making their games on a B budget, they just had the AAA marketing.

>>236851314
Fuck no, bashing is pointless.
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>>236851374
Kys weeb.
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>>236851374
one of the ones that is lore friendly
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>>236851375
I used it a bit in 4 to interrupt melee enemies' attacks but it seems to be much harder to pull off with any latency.
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>>236851243
I already said it was a brainlet explanation, cool your tits.

>>236851125
>Please stop this shrieking
Only you are anon, a calm post thats long winded isnt automagically "screeching" but calling others out for simple talking is a lot closer

Doesnt matter either way, unreal will never work well for a good RPG unless you dont care about world interactivity at all and only want fancy graffix and npcs. Which fucking sucks considering what frostbite and fox engine can handle on last gen hardware.
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>>236851375
Just for killing early level roaches and mole rats.
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>>236851478
>Frostbite
Another great example of an engine being used for the wrong things. It's amazing for Battlefield games like it was intended, and has trouble with everything else EA forced their studios to use it for.
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>>236851585
They use it for racing and sports games mostly.
Things that battlefield handled fantastically, ballistics and vehicles.
The sports games should get their own engine though. Too bad its more than good enough for 99% of players so they will just use it as a fit all the same as unreal.
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What kind of weapon damage pairs well with a support charisma-focused build?
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>>236851375
Finish off an enemy without wasting an extra round
Killing low level shit.
About it
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>>236851375
cycling the bolt on the hunting rifle faster
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>invite random to my party so I can fast travel closer to where I need to go
>get to talking and he wants to trade
>say I need aluminium
>says he will trade me bulk aluminium for the default cap prices
>nigga that's like 64 caos each, do you know how many fast travels I can get for that
>work it out where I trade 1 for 1 bulk oil and steel for aluminium
I feel I got the way better deal because who the fuck needs steel, and aluminium now requires acid to farm from workshops.
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>>236851907
medic VATS pistols or high ROF semi auto rifles

damage type doesnt matter
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>>236851907
Flamer for that perk that makes it heal friendlies
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>>236851907
CHA and INT don't get damage perks for anything so you're looking at a third stat if you want to actually do damage alongside supporting.
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>>236851996
I need all the steel wood and plastic.
I have too much aluminum adhesive and other mats.

Havent explored in a few days so I'm getting low on fibers finally.
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>>236852178
Support builds don't utilize INT, outside of what everyone else uses regardless of build.
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>>236852207
youre like the opposite of me, but somehow i heard from someone on here last week that you can supposedly luck out and get a legendary from crafting.

im really low on fiber optics and i dont really know where to get it from
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>>236852268
>not healing
>support
You're an idiot if you're taking more than one high CHA character along.
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>>236852207
Take grafton steel yard for steel. There's two extractors and like 100 super mutants spawn there all the time that you can kill and scrap their weapons for more steel.
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>>236850073
I really need help here now, neither F4 or the SE launcher will launch now, the game crashes and won't start. What the hell do I do? Why is everything broken?
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>>236852370
What perks are used to heal or benefit others with Int?
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>>236851907
Anything you get the Medic prefix on + VATS
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>>236850272
Oy vey, Jesus isn't G-d!
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>>236852496
The ones that increase the efficacy of stimpacks and rad-away.
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>>236846521
The fact that Hines has been given free reign to shit on consumers for years now shows the level of nepotism at Bethesda. I hope he and Emil are fired.
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holy shit after getting power armor at level 1 and rad child at level 4 i'm unstoppable
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>Melee build don't pick up steam until like level 25 and onward
uuuugghhh
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>>236852458
>>236850073
the game updated yesterday for me, you have to wait for stuff like looksmenu and mcm to update as well as f4se
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Well, I'm not certain if this is less or more horrifying.
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>>236852616
Do you even know what nepotism means or are you repeating a word you saw used on /v/?

>>236852629
Try making anything that needs luck perks m8.
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>>236852612
Those do nothing to benefit other players. If you're thinking pairing that with Team Medic from charisma, it doesn't work.
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>>236852690
jesus christ
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>>236852629
That's fucking nothing. You don't even know what suffering is.

t. person who tried to make a heavy weapons build work immediately at level 25 with an M2 off the back of a truck
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>>236852725
Well that fucking sucks balls, disregard me entirely. I'm glad I'm not too deep on INT on my support build.
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>>236852612
im curious about those, are they worth it? im not short on either because i have pharma farmer 3 so spamming them is no big deal, i also have ghoulish/photosynthetic/the sun rad removal one
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>>236852370
I'd argue that youre retarded for taking any high CHA characters along for "supporting".
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>>236852737
The worst part is that after I killed it the Thomas model started flickering and flying away so I was scrambling to get a decent shot.
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>>236852629
[/spoiler]They don't work end game either
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>>236852816
You'd be wrong, but that's OK. Just pick yourself up and try again.
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>>236852616
>fans are super argumentative
>love to pick fights and be sarcastic and toxic all the time
>people flip shit when he returns what he gets
You'd have to be a robot to put up with this community.
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>>236852820
Also since you can't accurately see the model it's way harder to hit it.
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>>236852803
Chemist for spamming diluted stimpacks and stuff.
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>>236852803
Int's great, but I mostly only use it for makeshift warrior or gunsmith on my supports. As >>236853016 mentioned, making shit tons of diluted stimpacks is pretty broken for team medic.
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>>236852878
>have to spend about 300-500 rounds with my .50 cal to kill a scorch beast
>can kill it in 5 hits with my super sledge
The beauty of alts is calling you out on shit like this.
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>>236853068
Sharing pharma farma and everybody just pooling most of their stims into you is also good, though you need traveling pharmacy.
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>>236853016
>>236853068
That's a point, but it can be switched out when it's time to craft.

>>236853137
I thought Traveling Pharmacy was a given on any build that doesn't require STR points for damage.
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>>236853115
Good luck in PvP or fighting the scorch beast queen AKA the only two things to do end game.
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>ticks just explode into nothing half the time
FUCK
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Piper liked that
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>>236853208
Kill them before they swell up too much.
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>>236852690

Nice

I'm wondering why its green. I know Fallout 76 has some new texture types, but that didn't apply for mine really.
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>>236853190
>he thinks queen is endgame
>not farming whitesprings
>pvp
Anon, you couldn't have worse opinions then this, right?
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>>236853208
They do leave behind phantom corpses that turn into meat piles after whatever time.
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>>236838530
Look, as much as everybody includes term open world design in the description of the games, none of them have the same formula of Bethesda's. They're more like Assassin's Creed 1-2 type open worlds. i haven't seen any game coming close to Beth's Morrowind, Oblivion or even Skyrim type open world.
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>>236853274
My two leading theories are normal maps or that the scorchbeast has a glowmap.
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>>236852689
I have the new updates for MCM and F4SE and the game won't even start up. Not the SE launcher or the steam launcher.
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>>236853284
>he doesn't PvP
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>>236853460
>pvping
>in the worst balanced game ever to feature pvp
Anon, you need to stop now. You can't hold all these shit opinions at once!
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>>236853318
>Thomas the Scorchbeast
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooope
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>>236853115
takes me several hundred 5mm rounds to down a secure transport cargobot, with a level 50 berserkers gatling gun and explosive rounds, problem isnt damage its just that i dont have the sights mod unlocked and the damn thing flies massively high out of range of both vats and the gun and behind buildings
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>>236853318
>>236853535
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETfiUYij5UE
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>>236853546
>he thinks the sights will help him with the gatling gun
Oh no no no no
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>>236853318

Pretty sure they do have glow maps

At least parts of their bodies glow. I'm leaning towards glow map because some dude on Nexus swapped out an outfit with a slutty AB / Cbbe one and took pics of it while posing in front of a dead Mothman.
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>>236853509
>he only kills computers
You'll never experience the thrill of farming shitters for caps while denying them their workshops
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>>236835530
>>236838546
>>236846234
>>236850073
>>236852689
>>236853405
Roll back your .exe with the steam console nibbas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLQI_DVZfaQ
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>>236853658
You'll never convince people you've actually played 76.
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I can't believe i'm saying this but i'm actually excited about new obsidian game for once. If, just IF it will be a sucessful franchise, bethesda's monopoly on open world sandbox "rpg" might finally crash and they stop being lazy sloppy care for nothing assholes and actually start making decent games again
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>>236853546
i dont expect incredible accuracy but with the twisted muscles penalty im just aiming at it and hoping for hitmarks
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>>236835279
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>>236836109
He means he doesn't like quippy humor, whatever he meant by that.
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>>236853743
meant for >>236853590
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https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout76/mods/140

It begins..
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>>236853720
Where was it announced it was an open world sandbox? All I've seen is the trailer and wild assumptions.
>>
ANYHOO

Apparently I unlocked this without really realizing what I unlocked when I helped kill my first Scorchbeast a long ass time ago. Like a week or two ago. Somehow the RNG gods knew I liked Plasma weapons. So if anyone wants Prime Plasma weapons come find me I guess!
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>>236853802
Can't wait til fourplay is ported to 76 and we can fuck other players.
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>>236853785
I don't have a pic of the sights anon, but they are comically misaligned. You won't be able to use the sights for shit. Maybe some one has a pic they can show you..
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>>236853818
>pure fluxes
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>236853803
>2018
>not open world
u wot m8
I'm not saying the first game is going to be on the same scale as BGS games, PREY level of openness maybe, but if it's successful microsoft gonna pump money into that franchise to milk it as hard as possible
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>>236848338
>Capitalism is bad
California if anything is the one of the centers of Capitalism you dingus
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>>236853878
fourplay is over, it was cannibalised by AAF

>>236853931
better than nothing, unless theres a better weapon for shooting the cargobots down

>>236853818
fluxes are the absolute worst meme, if i can get the raw fluxes i cant get the other stuff to make the finished pure flux
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>>236853694
to be clear all you have to do is close Steam add "-console" to your Steam shortcut and then reopen steam and type
>download_depot 377160 377162 883559999634905832
and you get the Fallout4.exe before today's update. Make sure to only use f4se to launch.
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>>236853968
But "Capitalism is bad" is literally the theme of Obsidians next game
>California is the one of the centers of Capitalism
>6.2m in poverty
More like the center of poverty and welfare checks
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>>236854508
Flyover cuck mad that California has more people in poverty than his state has people period.
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>>236854508
Maybe if it didnt cost a kidney to live there
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Did these madmen launch a double nuke on prime site?
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>>236853931
>>236854065
>>236853785
>>236853590
the sights aren't used to aim, they just reduce the cone of fire

the way you sight in as a player is unchanged, but the gun's accuracy still increases
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>>236854691
What would the point even be? Speaking of nukes, would I be safe if I hid in the white springs interior cells if someone nuked the place?
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>>236854627
>california has more people in poverty than any other state
>californian is proud about this
Does that mean you love India?
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>>236854769
I'm not Californian, I just love that you sad landlocked people envy people that have a coastline so much.
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>>236854840
>you sad landlocked
I'm not even American anon
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>>236853694
I did this and my Fallout 4 still won't even boot up.
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>>236854736
yeah, but remember to bring a hazmat suit if you want to go outside
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>>236854909
No wonder you have a problem with people in poverty you fucking socialist.
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>>236854997
Who doesn't carry around a suit of PA for shit like this?
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>>236855012
I'm not in the EU anon
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>>236855017
PA doesn't give you that much rad resist
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>>236855085
The fuck are you using? Raider?
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>>236854691
Can you kill the queen with another nuke?

>>236854736
Yes

>>236854997
You can still fast travel without needing a suit.
Not sure how you would even get in there to begin with unless you got trapped.
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>>236855048
>not even relevant enough to be a europoor
LMAO @ UR LIFE
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I had a kind of weird bug yesterday. Finished a Grafton event and all the sudden my health just started randomly draining. Thought it was weird and maybe some sort of delayed damage/lag. Eat a couple radstag steaks and purified water to get back up to full health. Health starts draining rapidly again. Check conditions, nothing going on. Relogged and it was fixed. Strange.
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>>236855085
>500
>not much
lolwut

So whats the go to strategy for leveling up another character?
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>>236854691
if you attempt to launch all 3 nukes at once the server crashes
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>>236853818
I'd actually take you up on this to put it on my two shot plasma, but goddamn if getting pure flux isn't a giant grind.
Wouldn't even be so bad if you didn't have to hope for nuked enemies to drop the other garbage you need to make it.
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>>236855617
That was already fixed.
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>>236855576
this actually happened to me at the west tek building, in effects it said something about burning damage but there was no visual indication except for the constant health drain for about 2 minutes despite no injury
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>>236855649
there needs to be some sort of way of getting flux and its ingredients except for blast for blast zones, maybe a chance of getting it from a merchant for like 2-3k caps would be fine
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Why are the servers always shitting themselves?
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>>236855856
What if high level ghouls/radiated creatures could drop the other junk and you could combine the plants with nuclear waste to get the parts you want?
Or would that be too easy?
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>>236855953
thats already how it is
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>tfw see a sloth fighting three yao guai
>happy because I help the sloth win
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Well this is my load out. My completely unplanned loadout.

I'm going to swap gunsmith with explosive expert and I feel like I can re-spec three points of luck to something else and not miss them.
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>>236855935
A) If they actually are its because people over spawn shit at whitesprings which already has the highest mob density
B) They're usually not at all and its your own net shitting the bed.
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>>236855935
It wasnt an issue at all when the game first came out, had the best sessions those first few days.
Has to be one of the few games that has gotten less stable over time.

I blame shithead exploiters that cant manage an inventory personally. Really hope austin takes care of it soon whatever the cause.
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>>236856012
>rifleman
>expert rifleman
>master rifleman
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>>236856005
>after the fight, sloth shuffles over to something
>my heart drops to my stomach
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So when clans comes out will there be a /fog/ clan?
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>>236855994
You cant get the stuff outside nuke zones. I was trying to think of a way to get the mats outside those zones without being too easy.

ugh
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>>236856016
>actually it's a client side issue :^)
Classic
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>>236855774
Yeah idk, i was inside the office where the Mayor is when it started and there was nothing around me. I got spooked when I heard my characters heartbeating randomly in my headset. Then it happened again after healing right after the meter filled.
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>>236856103
Is there a problem with that?
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>>236856148
Because that's the reality anon, whether you like it or not.
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>>236856217
>everyone's having the same client side issues :^)
>just fuggin way she goes
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>>236856116
>pan back camera even more
>heart breaks
This is the worst feeling encounter i've had in 76. Anyone else know this pain?
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>>236856103
How does this actually work? I have rifleman 3 starred and a 1 star expert rifleman. Do these all buff together?
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>>236856129
>playing with 4channel people
Only once has this gone well for me, I'll never do it again.

>>236856301
Yes.
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>>236856253
>Everyone
You're in a minority anon, not a majority.
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>>236856005
The only Sloth I've seen so far was a scorched sloth.
I just put it out of its misery.
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>>236856217
>server starts shitting for our entire group consisting of people across several states
>its just your internet bro :^)
Go away
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>>236856269
Tame and bring back to your camp
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>>236856332
actually I'm a white guy
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>>236856301
Yes.

It's more efficient to use the most cards you can if you've got limited points. Three rank one cards are better then one rank 3 card.
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>>236856216
those 3 x 20% perks are extremely inefficient and there are simply better perks to spend the points on
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>>236856332
But his e-celeb babysitter told him it was shit so it must be everyone!

>>236856347
I want a froggo pet.
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>>236856337
>Things that didn't happen
You don't have any friends, you're clearly and unlikable cunt, so don't lie.
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>>236856425
Cool
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>>236856005
>>236856116
>>236856269
>When I killed her anyway because I wanted the cooked sloth meat food bonuses/healing and the exp.

Get fucked, stupid bits and pieces of code shaped to look like an animal. Lel.
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>>236856414
Such as?
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>>236856418
>frothing
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>>236856414
>this dumb nigga doing 30% more damage instead of 60%
Stop being dead weight.
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>want to be one thing
>but also want to be another
>end up being third thing
fug I'm bad at rpgs
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>>236856327
in gtag the 4chan crew was good, we helped each other out with heists and missions i can see it being just as successful in fo76
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The gauss rifle, is the displayed damage from a fully charged shot or for an uncharged shot?
Does anyone know what the damage difference between a charged and uncharged shot is?
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I can't wait for them to nerf melee so that my VATScrits build reigns in as the meme-king meta build.
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>>236856661
but the cancer that was the leadership was uncontrollable
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>>236847738
>People have loved to hate giant, soulless corporate machines sine as long as I can remember.
yeah, I know it's a tired old trope that I've seen a thousand times in both bad and good tellings and I'm incredibly bored of it.
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I AM A PASSENGER
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Post comfy camps.
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>>236857210
I just need to find a fucking instrument.

Banjo, guitar, any of the stringed ones.
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>guy shoots me
>Shoot him back and 2 shot him
>He spends the next 20 minutes seeking revenge
>I didn't even take his junk.
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>>236857441
The only PvP I've ever been involved in was a guy with a bounty on him that got out of his power armor before attacking me, who was in power armor.
Pretty sure he just wanted to get rid of his bounty.
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>>236857385
Buy them or just keep taking workshops
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>>236857602
>Buy them
I would if I ever fucking saw one. But I've only seen fucking pianos.
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>>236857641
I see acoustic plans for sale frequently from Responders vendors.
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>>236857682
Like I said, only seen pianos from them every time I've checked.
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>>236857210
>no flamingos and/or garden gnomes
Not comf!
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Where can I find a shotgun? I'm still carrying around a level 1 shotgun I need at least a 10 or 15
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My camp got deleted for the first time ever today. The thing is the camp that deleted it wasn't anywhere near mine. The no build zone between camps is fucking massive.

Now I kind of want to set up my CAMP in one of the pre-existing structures that exist away from a map marker. You can generally build your camp at those.
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>>236858019
On enemies carrying shotguns.
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>>236858019
They're everywhere. Scorched and mole miners carry them so try the ash heap. You gotta get out of the forest area if you want things to level scale.
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>>236857210
My cozy small footprint camp

>>236857441
I tried to help some level 107 guy defend a workshop. For some reason he killed me but left my junk for like an hour.
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What are good ways to find servers with nukes?
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>>236858482
It's pot luck really

A gaggle of high levels in the same space on the map is a good bet though. Probably a squad going to launch.
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Anybody know of a good place with a lot of barren flat land so i can put my razorgrain farm there?
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>>236859143
White spring golf course.
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howdy

show me your favorite photos please
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why does it cost so damn much to move your camp fuck me
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>>236858019
The nautical bar near Morgantown airport has a placed double barrel that's level 15 under the counter.
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>>236859261
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tell me, /fog/, why is it if a guy has 50 cap bounty on the map, but i go to find him and it's only 25 once i get in range to kill?
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>>236859379
And why is 50 cal MG plans over 1k caps!?
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>>236859261
>shitty filter and grain
>your favorite
You need to step up your game anon.
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>>236859445
>shitty
it's film grain on a letterbox frame, it's not shitty if it's appropriate lad
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>>236859412
metaphor for life baka
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>>236859404
ty will check
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>>236859512
>it really tickles my picture to take a dark as shit photo that no one can tell whats going on it it
>this is peak art
Anon, the only way it could be worse is if you were a teenage girl who just discovered black and white photos.
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>>236859683
>he doesn't like Snyder-core

wtf
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>>236855017
PA adds too much weight
pack light and build right and you can ignore >80% of armor anyway
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>>236859793
What do you mean PA adds to much weight?
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>>236859961
The pieces weight a bunch once you're in your chassis.
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i love Ellen!
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>>236860013
They weigh nothing when they're on the frame.
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>>236860061
>just going to starbucks in the glowing sea xoxo
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>>236860061
I love Heather!
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>>236860013
No they don't. Power armor pieces weight nothing on the frame.

The only weight limiting factor for PA is the weight of fusion cores. And with the batteries included perk the PAs own added carry weight can more then make up for needing to carry FCs.
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>>236860128
And if you're just using an excavator set for the extra carry weight when over encumbered, just the core in the frame is enough unless if it is below 10 or so.
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>Found a furious cryolater
Huh, this seems like it might actually be decent. If I had the correct build.
Cryolater is a heavy weapon right? Maybe I can sell this thing.
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>>236860237
I think it's exotic like crossbows etc
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>>236860291
So it's not modified by any perks?
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http://timedwatcher.blogspot.no/2018/12/fallout-1-sex-text-because-sexout-was.html

Fallout 1 Katja sex mod

And just to be clear, this isn't implied sex. I tried to make the three scenes as graphic through text as I could. Leave a comment on the blog if you want to help me figure out the direction of the mod
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>>236860405
probably modified by the energy weapons bobblehead
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76 will go free2play in a desperate attempt to keep the playerbase from jumping to Obsidians game
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Can't people just break open seventysix.esm and figure out what perks effect what and shit? Feels like our knowledge is far less than it should be
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>>236860551
I hope the game releases soon so all you /v/ermin will finally leave.
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>>236860092
custom sliders?
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>>236835272
Looks like Borderlands.
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>>236859257
I keep seeing nukes on Whitesprings, so that seems like a bad idea
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>>236860631
looks like borderlands 2 you mean
borderlands 1 was a fun and good game after all
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>>236860682
He was memeing you. Even though Whitesprings would be peak comfy if not for the constant nuking and legendary farming.
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>>236860682
Cranberry bog has lots of open, flat land and bad neighbors.
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>Outer worlds actually has the original fallouts dialogue system

Bethesda is finished, they wont be able to get away with releasing shit like 76 when obsidian is actually making good games for the same audience
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>Vampire handmade rifle
Nice
>Level 25
FUCK
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>RadBeavers don't gnaw on your house if it's made of wood.

I'm surprised there even is beavers in the game. But then that opens up a possibility for featuring areas up north of WV where beavers are even more prominent, like Canadiana.
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>>236860523
never played FO1 but this is tempting me to do so. I'd honestly play it if it was revamped to have a shit ton of sex dialogue. Like the entire damn game
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Someone make a virgin starfield vs chad Outer worlds meme
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Icepick or Winter Overhaul?
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>>236860602
Why don't you do it?
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>>236835272
>Destiny styled outfits and guns
>In a world full of atmosphere, characters, stories, quests, lore designed by classic Obsidian
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>>236861591
And with the dialogue system of fallout 1 and 2
No more "hate newspaper" shit
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>>236861591
>classic Obsidian
>
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Someone make a virgin starfield vs chad Outer worlds meme.
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Anyone with calibrated shocks know how much carry weight it gives?
It gave 50 in 4, don't know if cut it in half like pocketed.
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>>236861661
make it yourself you meme-loving retard
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>>236861509
I don't know about the whole game, but I am considering content for the female character as well.
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Starfield will literally be bethesda skyrim but in space, much like how fallout 4 was skyrim with guns and fallout 76 is just TSO but with guns. LMFAO ROFL TROFL.
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>>236835272
>anti-capitalist
>space cowboys
Oh hey, that's coo-

>Destiny guns and armor
fuckin lame.
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>>236861856
shut up cuck howard.
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>>236861824
Well its using the exact same engine, so yeah it probably will just be fallout 4 with a different coat of paint
"Captain, another colony needs our help, ive put the coordinates onto your star-chart"
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Virgin Starfield vs Chad Outer Rims vs Thad Cyberpunk.
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>looking for NV mods for that yearly runthrough
>find Skyrim Shouts
>load up old melee character
>unrelenting force works
>fire breath kinda works
>use elemental fury to see how fast fist can go with ingame perks an-
>game crashes after a few swings that i could barely see
welp
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>>236861980
Yeah memes xd we get it
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>>236862007
Did you pay full price for 76? is that why you're mad
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>>236862007
>>236862042
Probably. Only people getting mad at outer rim and new vegas posters are butt blasted 76 posters who actually paid 60 bucks for a very shit game that doxes you.
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What's the actual likelihood this, everything not just the new game, kills or severely harms bethesda rather than just harming the fallout franchise?
How likely is it normie norman will go "ewww...bethesda game..." rather than "ewww...fallout game..."?
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>go into blast zone as a Lv 8
>get 30% of a level up in a single shot
>someone died ontop of the bus
>take his shit and put 100 weight worth of junk in my box
Thanks niggers
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>>236862228
I dont think normies care, they dont know about game development and how ES6 is using the same engine as 76
They'll just remember all the skyrim memes and buy it
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>>236862228
Gamers have memories of goldfish and rarely stick to what they say.
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>>236862295
I feel the same way but I gets brought up often enough at work where most don't even play videogames and the few that do beyond me are just casual joe looking for a good game to play during his 4 hours of free time a week but they all use social media to some degree so they've been exposed to the shitstorm in their own way. They don't seem to really get the issues at play but they know all the buzzwords like refunds and nylon bags and shit along with the game and company names. I honestly can't say I've seen them this "well" informed on anything game related before but I still feel like they'll never really look at a game cover for the companys name rather than the actual games name.
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>Bethesda shot themselves in the foot again
>Rage 2 isn't on Steam
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>>236862708
Meh RAGE was okay nothing special.
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>>236862539
I think the big danger for bethesda is other companies now. Obsidian is clearly targeting the disapointed fallout audience with outer worlds. Someone else could make a fantasy game to take the ES audience that still remembers how badly Bethesda fucked up before
Theyd have to make an amazing game to win back faith, but it doesnt seem like they will
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>any slightly complex camp impossible to place back down after some fuck takes your spot
>DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER
>damage bugs create invincible enemies
>Kill Evan
>ITEM NEEDS SUPPORT
>hard crash
>DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER
>endgame is Tesla zapping or meleeing ghoul hordes for better guns to use on more ghoul hordes
>DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER
>weapon balance that makes no sense
>Fatman blows up in your face
>>>plasma
>DISCONNECTED FROM SERVER

I really, really want to have fun. My brother and I are both trying, we love the series. But it's been real fucking hard
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>>236862708
>it's on the "bad" drm instead of the "good" drm
Publishers don't want to give valve a 30% cut for nothing who knew
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Remember: spread as many lies, half-truths, and negative rumours about Obsidian's new game as possible. Give every new bit of information about the game a negative connotation and mock it on /v/ and in YouTube comments sections. Highlight every remotely negative aspect about the game and ignore any positive aspects - twist the truth and lie if you must. We are going full smear mode against Obsidian's newest game - they did the same to Fallout 76; it's time to give them a taste of their own medicine. We need to ensure that this game is a widely ridiculed failure.
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>>236862875
I don't see 76 players desperately trying to falseflag
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>>236862773
No company makes games like Bethesda's though. Outer Worlds isn't going to play anything like a Bethesda game, so no one will care.
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>>236862773
HOLY SHIT FUCKING CHOICE IN A GAME AGAIN
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>>236862968
Yeah if Bethesda just had the GURPS and AD&D engines to work with like Black Isle then they'd surely make games better than Fallout, Icewind Dale, Baldur's Gate, Planescape: Torment, Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn, Tales of the Sword Ghost, Throne of Bhaal, Heart of Winter, Icewind Dale 2, Fallout 2, FALLOUT NEW VEGAS
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I am just glad that my friend duped his handmade for me and in return I duped my explosive radium rifle for him
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>>236863042
None of those games are anything like a Bethesda game, nor do they try to be.
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>>236863089
Almost like Bethesda makes shit games and Black Isle makes the best RPGs ever to walk the earth.
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>>236863042
>>236863123
the fuck are you rambling about
back to codex with you
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>>236862978
Another game where all choices only affect post game slideshows and change nothing in the game itself.
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>>236863043
>28052
not the only thing you duped huh
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>>236862787
i never get disconnected... Sure you dont have potato net?
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>>236863137
This isn't made by Bethesda you silly anon
Also remember Obsidian were given an extremely small time limit by bethesda to make new Vegas, and it was still better than anything bethesda ever made
Imagine what they can do now that they're the ones in control
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Can somebody gift me Fallout 76? I feel suicidal and i want to die, but before i do this, i want to play this game.
o2352880@nwytg.net
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>>236863137
Doesn't feel like nothing when your Enclave bros roll in support to the Dam.
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>>236863221
lol
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>>236862773
This is what I was thinking as well more or less. If any flak remains I think it will just be anti-fallout not anti-bethesda.
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>>236863208
>Imagine what they can do now that they're the ones in control
We already saw it, it was Pillars 1+2, and Tyranny, arguably some of the worst games they have ever made.
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>>236863202
I wish it was but no, my brother and I live in different cities with different ISPs and it always happens to the both of us at the same time - and I assume the rest of the server as well.

who the fuck knows, maybe it's only the servers in my region (us east)
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>>236863319
If Pillars was so bad how'd they get to make a sequel? I thought Obsidian were always on life support
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At least Fallout 4 was about endless radiant quests and grinding Legendary items. Fucking 76 all about grinding fucking everything, getting to keep nothing, and the endgame is finding artillery piece plans so that you can dupe Legendary items (new update takes away Legendary weapon drops on enemies)
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>>236863231
>dies in two hits from the poorly scaled Legion soliders
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>>236863319
>He thinks those games are bad
Was there too much player choice for your liking?
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>>236863221
if you're feeling suicidal you need to visit a mental hospital, not play games
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>>236863362
Now they're free to soar with the unlimited backing of Microsoft, just like Rare
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>>236857210
how do you fit the crafting stations in the tents? do you put them down first then the tents or what? the melee station always bugs out so theres only one small place under the tent that it fits
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>>236863362
>If Pillars was so bad how'd they get to make a sequel?
Same reason Pillars got made, they have an insanely rabid fanbase that keeps trying to prop them up as the best thing since sliced bread when the rest of the industry already knows that they are one of the worst game devs out there which is why no major publisher wants to work with them at this point and they had to resort to E-begging just to get a game made.

Its pretty telling when the only company willing to buy you is fucking Microsoft, a company that hasn't really made games that anyone cares about for years, and generally coasts on hardware sales.
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I just want a well executed, online, pve-leaning mishmash of the best parts of the Stalker and Fallout series
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>>236857210
where is your stash container? i think the floor safe is the smallest one you can get
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>>236863385
>He things those games arne't bad
>characters with no real depth
>none of your choices mean shit
>stock worlds that have nothing unique or interesting about them
>poor man's Baldur;s Gate clones
If I wanted to play a shitty version of Baldur's Gate, I would just go play the enhanced edition
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>>236863509
If they ever give players control oner servers and mods in 76 you'll get it
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>>236863173
We also duped junks and nuka colas and some stimpaks
Also ammo
This is his weapon in return for his service
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>>236863539
Pretty clear you never actually played pillars
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>>236863631
>ywn find your true raifu
This game is not fair
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>>236863652
Played through both, and the expansions for the first one.

Pillars is an utterly generic and stock fantasy setting that lacks both the decades of background D&D has, or the interesting background lore of something like Elder Scrolls.

The only thing your choices actually changed were post-game slideshows which basically all get retconed in the second game anyways making them even more worthless.
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>>236863631
since when does radium rifle weigh 49? that doesnt even make sense
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>The same engine that made the big faction war in skyrim consist of 15 people is being used for ES6

I dont understand. After the fuckup that is 76 how do they think they're going to get away with this
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>>236863631
why a radium rifle? seems like shit outside of maybe pvp
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>>236863509
What do you consider the best parts of fallout? I can only say camp building.
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>>236863804
4 point 9, also 90% decreased weight
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>>236863859
is the 4.9 value inclusive of the 90% reduction?
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>>236863831
even in pvp it would be subpar because it isnt anti armour
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>>236862815
But not giving Gaben money means we'll never get Half Life 3!
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>>236863826
something you need to keep in mind is an engine is like a car. you can upgrade parts but still call it the same car. the engine can and will undergo upgrades

does that mean we'll get away from all the trademark shortfalls of the engine? not at all, but it is possible. fo76 for example received light rendering upgrades
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I want a good legendary so bad but I consistently find shit.

The best thing I found so far was an instigating M79 grenade launcher.
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>>236863989
>does that mean we'll get away from all the trademark shortfalls of the engine?
The "shortfalls of the engine" have nothing to do with the engine but how they design games, stop conflating the two.
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>>236863989
nigga 76 has shadows that disappear and move depending on where the player is looking and godrays coming out of the ground
there is no upgrade
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>>236863837
I like that Fallout doesn't always take itself too seriously. Stalker can be pretty depressing and anxiety-inducing after a time. RPG elements of the older FO games, and then yeah base building of new Fallout (when it works)
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>>236863942
Armor doesn't do shit against the radiation m8.
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>>236864058
Godrays coming out of the ground are an issue with the ground meshes.

I think they were coming through seams in the ground mesh or something.
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>>236864039
Let me ask you a question anon, have you ever seen a climbable ladder in a bethesda game?
You have not, because the engine is so old and the core of it is so outdated that it is literally incapable of doing such a thing
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>>236863989
Most of the things that people blame the engine for
-No vehicles
-Low number of NPCs
-No ladders
Have nothing to do with the engine
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>>236863734
What's your ign I might wanna give you a two shot though we can try to do a vertibot landing pad exploit
>>236863831
not the best I know but my friend gave me his two shot explosive shotgun in return despite being level 5 and the CND is shit
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>>236864149
>Let me ask you a question anon, have you ever seen a climbable ladder in a bethesda game?
You are aware that Bethesda themselves have stated that they got working ladders for the player, but didn't use them because of NPCs being unable to use them properly. This has nothing to do with the engine, but with coding.

Also, other gamebryo games have working ladders.

You have no idea what you are talking about.
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>>236864039
it's a mix of the engine, their design, and their skill. good tools can lead to better design. can't help the last one though
>>236864058
it has issues but there are upgrades nonetheless. do you suppose they could have made fo76 with morrowind's engine?
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Everyone is talking about the giant fuckups and big "wtfs" like no fov, and always on mics, but holy damn, there are so many minor issues.
>Gameplay is clunky AF
navigating trough the world feels like running on roller skates. Not actually skating, like trying to use them to run and walk. The menu works for a game that pauses itself, but it is stupidly fiddly for a "live" game with no pause. Navigating it is legit worse than vanilla Skyrim. The options menu is so fucking bad, Totalbiscuit is rotating in his grave, you can't turn of a STUPIDLY high set depth of field effect, and I'm pretty sure there is mouse acceleration going on as well, which I don't even understand why that even still gets put in games. No one wanted that EVER.
Also, the game is clearly not even designed for multiplayer. If another player stands anywhere near you, all options to loot vanish in favour of "invite to trade" buttons, you get zero exp for enemies you couldn't get a hit in on, and most of the enemies die in one or two hits with only a couple big ones needing more than that, resulting in the game feeling like it's punishing you for not soloing.
I also feel like the survival aspect adds nothing other than distracting me from enjoying the game and forcing me in regular intervals to gulp down food and water and watch my radiation rise in turn.
Same goes for the weight that was added to nearly everything. forcing me to dump or drop every now and then because after carrying your main weapons, some ammo, some lockpics, fucking water food and other meds, you have fuck and all left for running around and looting.
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>>236864149
oh for fucks sake here we go
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>>236864126
almost all npcs are immune to the radiation damage, players in PA will have very high resistance to the ballistic and the radiation damage, against non pa its still a small amount and most of the ballistic damage would be reduced
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>>236864225
You can only upgrade something to a certain point
What bethesda is doing is like putting lots of really nice furniture in a house thats foundation will crumble in a week anyway
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>>236864149
It's not that the engine is incapable of it, it's that AI get wonky with ladders. Half Life has climbable ladders but NPCs never use them for the exact same reason. Bethesda decided to just not use them.

Every game that has AI that can climb ladders the AI is always really easy to cheese or they act weird when they use them even with new games.
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>>236864159
I am not going to try and pretend to be a expert on gaming engines but this game falls apart when mulitple players are fighting enemies together. All that stuff you listed is irrelevant but players fighting together seems important for a multiplayer game.
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>>236864293
You are aware that the Sourceengine used in Portal 2 still has lots of the Quake engine code that was used to make the HL1 GoldSRC engine?

Engines are iterative things that get upgraded constantly. There is no limit to how far you can upgrade them.
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>>236864283
I want to try gamma gun in pvp sometime. most people don't have radaway hotkeyed like stims.

that's assuming they aren't in power armor, which they will be. using a 2h melee too
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>>236864229
I use the weight glitch every time I log on now and feel no regrets. at first I kinda liked it, having to pick and choose the tools I took to the field, but it quickly became tedious even with perks and fairly aggressive inventory management. agree with hunger/thirst too, I wish there was a perk that pulled food from my inventory as needed

gonna suck when (if) they fix it
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>>236864391
supposedly it makes your screen shake a lot when the projectile hits, but its extremely gimmicky and would be neutered by radx stacking and ghoulish
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>>236864363
Theres no limit if you replace the outdated code that holds back the games, but bethesda doesnt do that, they keep it in
Todd said they do that because "it allows us to work quickly and the modders know it well." Which speaks to the companies true philospohy
Churn out a game as quickly and cheaply as possible then let modders fix it
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>>236864541
Except what Todd was talking about was the creation kit, not the engine.

you really don't know jack shit about what you are talking about do you?
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>>236863904
yeah but i dont know if he has the perks to further reduce it
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>>236863859
If your rifle weighs 4.9 after a 90% reduction then without said reduction it should weigh 49.
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>>236864590
Im looking at the results. They didnt upgrade the engine for 76 and it shows, the game is a broken mess
Meanwhile you're saying "Yeah the game is broken and bethesda doesnt care but maybe theyll feel bad about that and upgrade it in the future"
You are just a Todd Howard cum bucket
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>>236864696
>They didn't upgrade the engine for 76 and it shows
They did
>the game is a broken mess
The bugs have to do with coding errors, not the engine.

You really are retarded aren't you?
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>>236864736
He's just repeating outrage youtuber talking points.
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>>236864696
>Meanwhile you're saying "Yeah the game is broken and bethesda doesnt care but maybe theyll feel bad about that and upgrade it in the future"
I never said anything of the sort you massive straw manning fgt.
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>>236864696
A good deal of the broken shit is related in some way to the online portion. A part of the engine that is completely new.

Other glitches are old ones that, frankly, didn't matter as much when the game was single player. Like the weight glitch. Completely irrelevant since anyone who wanted infinite weight would just use cheat codes.
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>>236864736
Mate the engine itself is the coding errors because its using 20 year old code that bethesda refuses to update
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>>236835272
I'll admit it looks endearing. This part actually made me smile.
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I fucking hate Obsidian.
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There are people in this very thread that think its acceptable that a glitch that was in fallout 4 (and fixed the day of release by modders) is still in fallout 76
This is the level of bootlicker we are dealing with
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>>236864875
Personally I don't care for the type of humor they put forth.

Then again the trailer doesn't feel like it's actually representative of the game to me.
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>>236864875
cheers luv da cavulry's ere
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>>236864875
>the incel's only instance of happiness is when a virtual woman is talking to him positively since she doesn't have the privilege of getting disgusted of him like real people do
Typical.
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>>236864875
Seeing this made me realise the characters in Bethesda games never actually move or emote at all during conversation, they're so static and lifeless
Hopefully this game is better
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I don't get this meme about engines and coding errors being mutually exclusive. They are software engines.
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>>236865028
The closest thing we got to a character emoting in conversation was Piper and it was horrible.
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>>236864854
Again, you REALLY have no fuckign idea how game engines work do you?

The coding errors are from scripts that are only run by the engine but are not the engine itself. They could have made Fallout 76 in anything from Unreal, to Source, to Id Tech, and still had ALL of these exact same bugs because they are coding issues with things OTHER then the engine.
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>>236865028
It's quite clearly a cutscene, you dope.
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>>236864654
oh true
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>>236865060
Angry gamers don't understand how game development works. It's been a problem for a long time but it's getting worse in recent years when you get clueless youtubers telling literally millions of people "just ditch your pipeleine and use UE4 for your next game bro"
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>>236865110
Which is still a lot nicer than what we get in bethesda games where everyone is a statue
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NOT A FALLOUT GAME. FUCK OFF TALKING ABOUT IT.
NOT A FALLOUT GAME. FUCK OFF TALKING ABOUT IT.

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>>236865140
Mandatory programming classes in schools when?
E-celeb purge when?
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>>236864508
Weight glitch?
And yeah, the weight you get is stupidly low. In Fallout I usually carry a gun for my most used ammo types but dear lord is it difficult to keep equipment in this fucking game. Specially since you do need to keep a melee weapon as well, unless you want to waste ammo on scorched and molerats.
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>>236865202
Todd is that you
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>>236865202
I get your point, but comon, some people are still playing 76 and want to talk about it.
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>>236865202
This. People don't discuss Elder Scrolls here in spite of Fallout 3 commonly being known as "Oblivion with guns"
It's not even the same genre.
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>>236865252
If you equip and unequip armor with "pocketed" trait really fast your carry weight goes down, when it goes below zero to minus you have unlimited carry weight. And if youre on pc you can disable depth of field, change fov, set the game to save your char data every 1 minute instead of every 10min, remove lense flares, motion blur and all that stupid shit.
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>>236865329
>Oblivion with guns
>Fallout with magic
>Skyrim with guns again?
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>>236865537
Actually Bethesdas next game, Starfield, will likely be "Fallout in space"

The comparison will probably be even stronger since Fallout already is full of scifi elements. Wouldn't be surprised if the laser rifle is in there as an easter egg.
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I'm getting really fucking pissed off with the amount of shit people are giving Bethesda. Honestly at this point I hope Bethesda never makes another Fallout game and just permanently sits on the title, not selling it to anybody. Fallout fans have shown themselves to be a collection of autistic self-entitled cuntish retarded manchildren that don't deserve any new Fallout titles. From henceforth Bethesda should just fully focus on The Elder Scrolls - a game series that has always been superior to and more creative than the mediocre Fallout series, and has a player-base/fan-base that actually likes and appreciates Bethesda and isn't full of entitled manchildren.
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>from the creators of the original fallout and new vegas

Based.
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My biggest hope for starfield is that it actually has an interesting plot
But bethesda games always have dogshit plots and writing so I doubt it, probably just some generic "you are the chosen one, pls save space from bad man"
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>>236865862
t. hasn't played any bethesda games

Fuck off
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>>236865908
>Must find dad
>Must find son
>Must kill bad dragon because me chosen one

So intriguing and interesting
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>>236865524
I did know about the custom .ini but I don't really consider it an adequate fix, as this is something you really, really NEED to have in the actual game. Sure you and me, we use it, but of the total playerbase how many people will bother with editing .ini files? 2%? And of course it is annoying as fuck having to waddle trough config files to make your game not ass.

btw, do the challenges reset with a new character? Can you actually quick farm atoms by just making new ones and doing the first few challenges again?
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>>236865858
See
>>236848042
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Most thing blamed on the engine have more to do with game design. For example

The small towns and number of NPCs are the result of several things Bethesda games do that others don't
1. Bethesda games have tons of physics enabled objects in every cell, which by itself takes up a lot of processing power, but it also saves all those objects into the data when they get moved, so that they stayed moved in thier ew spot until the cell resets in 10-30 days. This is different compared to games like GTA, RDR 2, or Witcher 3, where basically chignon can be moved, and what little can be moved gets purged and reset the moment you leave the area.

2. Bethesda game handle NPC body and clothing as separate objects. In a Bethesda game, an NPCs body, under armor, 6 armor pieces, glasses, face covering, weapon, and several weapon mods, get rendered as separate objects. This is why you can take off NPC clothing in the game and it dynamically disappears from their body. In comparison, in games like GTA, RDR2, and Witcher 3, you can't remove NPC clothing because most NPCs have no body under their clothes, what parts of their body you can see are just stitched onto their clothes, and they are hollow under their clothes. A single Bethesda NPC can have enough object on them to be rendering the same amount as 6-7 NPCs in something like GTA.

3. Likewise Bethesda games handle scripts differently. In a Bethesda game, every named NPC has their own personal script, and even many generic guards have their own personal scripts that determine how they move throughout the day. Even walking into something like Diamond City can land you in a situation where there are 80+ scripts running at once, just in that small area. This different from games like GTA, RDR2, and Wticher 3 where NPCs in larger towns are all largely controlled by one massive generic NPC script that just makes them walk around the block all day.

Its these design decision that Bethesda makes that limit the NPC/towns, not the engine
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>>236865837
They actually put effort in Elder Scrolls games, that's the thing.

They use the Fallout franchise as testing grounds for their new Elder Scrolls games. Their Fallout games are all rotting garbage, but their Elder Scrolls game are fairly fun.
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>>236865858
oof, having it so blown up, seeing her real eyes und the contact lenses is kinda unsettling.
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>>236865943
Nothing about being the chosen one there, retard. Unlike the classic Fallout games, one of which has a protagonist literally named "The Chosen One".
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>>236865943
You know you can do this with any game right?
>Must find water chip
>Must find Geck
>Gotta find the guy who shot me >:((
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>>236865974
>Using a buried trucks bed as a garden
Cute.
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>>236866005
>They actually put effort in elder scrolls games
>when skyrim exists

Cant wait to explore ES6 capital city, maybe itll have 20 citizens instead of skyrims 15
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>>236865862
The plot of Starfield is probably going to be you looking for your lost spouse or some shit and then getting wrapped up in a cheesy war between the clearly evil space nazis and some kind of hero faction based off of some old-world shit with a whole bunch of one-note extra factions for you to join and beat up the other factions with, calling it now.
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>>236866058
Skyrim is better than Fallout 3, 4 and 76, sadly. And it is way more fun too.
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>>236866058
Funny that Skyrim, one of the most mediocre entries in the TES series, has been more successful than any Fallout game.
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>>236866094
Thats a pretty fucking low bar though
Skyrim was objectively a 5/10 game
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>>236866058
>when skyrim exists
Yeah Skyrim is an alright game
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>>236866005
Pretty much. The difference between Fallout 3 and Skyrim is a lot bigger then the different between Oblivion and Fallout 3 or Skyrim and Fallout 4.

Just for comparison Fallout 3 uses skeletons straight from Oblivion while Fallout 4 uses Skyrim skeletons. Both just with a different texture to better fit the setting.
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>>236866026
>her
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>>236865993
>Get out of here with your critical thinking, this is supposed to be a bethesda-hate circlejerk!!!!

but really though, excellent post.
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>>236866094
Eh, less clunky and more streamlines maybe, but better? I mean than 76 certainly. but the rest? Hardly. If you ask me, they're all shit, in the end it comes down to which side quests you like the most. As none of them have a main quest worth a fucking damn.
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>>236866058
The small cities are largely because people did nothing but complain that Vivec and the Imperial City were too large and confusing to walk around in and find stuff.
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>>236866228
>As none of them have a main quest worth a fucking damn.
Why do you keep lying?
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>>236866124
I disagree
I think Skyrim is a 7/10
game
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>>236865993
In Skyrim they even simplified the armor system to just torso, boots hand and head to help reduce the stress number 2 causes.

Then in Fallout 4 the armor is almost back to Morrowind level complexity. Not quite but actually quite close.
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>>236835272
Microsoft will buy Bethesda and put Obsidian in charge of Fallout and TES, screenshot this
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>>236866124
Skyrim is literally
LITERALLY
a 9/10 game
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>>236866450
Going to the next gen hardware helps.
Maybe if Starfield really is next gen they can have a couple dozen npcs in a town.
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I know I shouldn't be, but I'm a bit excited for TES 6's map
Fallout 76's map is one of the best worlds Bethesda has made
>>236866483
>Microsoft will buy Bethesda
T-that's not going to happen
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Frankly the small city size in Skyrim never bothered me. Most of the cities were large enough for their purpose and you don't really realize how small they are at ground level on foot.

The main issue I had with Fallout 4 in comparison is that it just didn't have enough. Diamond City was really the only major settlement in the entire game. Vault 81, Goodneighboor and Bunker Hill are all about the size of a Skyrim village and they're the only other major settlements.
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>>236866380
I think Skyrim's MQ would've been OK if they just made the ending not shit
And I unironically think Fallout 4 was pretty close to having an amazing MQ.
All they had to do was just make your choices matter, or at least show them in the end slides
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>>236866450
This is actually incorrect. they merged torso and pants because most of the Nordic designs they came up with covered up the pants area with skirts or w/e anyways, so there was no need to keep them separate.

Saving performance was just a bonus
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>>236866380
F3
>follow your dads breadcrums for a water purifier. Literally everyone has the same plan and is fighting you for who gets to turn it on
Skyrim
>Supposedly super intelligent dragon "general" comes back and sends single dragons to random ass villages and bumfuck nowhere to attack nothing in particular. Luckily you're born with the batman-toolbelt gene, Having that one weird trick that happens to be able to take him out. Dragons hate him!
F4
>your son is kidnapped and your spouse is killed. You are SUPER broken up and distraught about it, unless you're doing a sidequest or hooking up with someone else, but you care about your son as soon as you go back to diamond city to continue, honest!
76
>Following breadcrumbs again, listening to shit that has happened instead of making or even SEEING shit happen
I'm sorry anon, but the last 10 years of bethesda games are dogshit for main story, the only interesting parts are the sidequests and even they are seriously hit and miss.

I mean, you can say "But I enjoy them!" which is valid, but you enjoying them doesn't mean that they're good. It just means that you enjoy them. For some reason.
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>>236866732
Fuck end slides, that crutch of mid 90's RPGs need to die.

Fallout 4 actually having the Institute be blown into a giant crater, the BoS airship a ruined wreck across the airport, and your winning faction taking up outposts across the map, and many NPCs and the radio talking about who won, was more in-game consequence for your actions then most games achieve.
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>>236866654
It would be a rounding error in Microsoft's fiscal year
If the security failure results in heavy enough fines from GDPR especially, but also US class action suit, Zenimax might just decide to sell.
Obsidian was in a weak position after Pillars 2 came out weaker than expected, and after losing money on the White March 1&2 DLC when Microsoft pulled them under their warm and sweaty arm.
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>>236866732
I like how in Fallout 4 you do see an effect in the world when your chosen faction sets up permanent checkpoints across the map. Helps it feel like you've actually changed something.

It's also why I liked the civil war in Skyrim. I even liked how some forts start out controlled by bandits, but if you clear them out the local faction take them over when the area respawns even if you haven't started the civil war quests yet.
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>>236866832
>Literally everyone has the same plan and is fighting you for who gets to turn it on
Not him, but this is 100% bullshit, and the worst reductio ad absurdum.

Might as well claim all the factions in New Vegas are fighting over the dam has the same plan "take over the Mojave!"
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Fallout 4 was bad because it didn't give you the option to be a cunt
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>>236865960
>do the challenges reset with a new character
yes
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>>236866923
Then I guess you loved Nuka World.
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>>236866923
But it did, edgy liar.
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I've server hopped 5 times now in the hopes I will find a living Evan scorched so I can kill him to complete quest.

Fucking Bethesda AAAAHHHHH
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>>236866919
Fallout 3s greatest failing was that there was no option to side with the Enclave join up with Colonel Autumn.
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>>236867098
It doesnt, the F4 protagonist can only ever have 1 personality because of the lack of choices and voice acting and its "very nice family man that is occasionaly sarcastic"
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>>236863631
that gun's freaking insane, grats

also, has anyone unlocked silencer for radium rifle? does it exist?
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Also wished Bethesda made the Minuteman and Railroad a bit better
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>>236866848
Yeah I guess this makes up for the end slides. Fallout 4 still pisses me off though. All Bethesda had to do was keep the skill system for dialogue skill checks and not use a voice protagonist and normalfags would've called Fallout 4 one of the best RPGs of all time.
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>>236867171
Actually, that is Fallout 3's greatest strength; it cucked fascist fuccbois like you.
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>>236867171
Autumn has zero reason to want to let you join him.

Up until the BoS basically Dues ex Machina fixes Liberty Prime he was in a 100% unstoppable position without you.
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>>236867227
They didn't need to keep the skill system for dialog checks. The perk system assumed every function that skill systems did in previous games.

What they needed were dialog perk checks. Something that they did use a bit in DLC. Robotics expect let you skip entire sections of Nuka World quests with a dialog check.
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>>236866848
I think you're vastly underestimating how much money ZeniMax has. They can sit on the Fallout IP until the heat death of the universe and they won't get an offer big enough to make them sell.

>>236867227
Voiced protag was put in 4 as a direct result of IGN and Gamespot reviews calling the absence a weakness of 3. You have them to thank for it.
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>>236866923
You could easily be a cunt in 4.
Stuff like:
>Backstabbing Wolfgang by saying you'll help him but then choosing to help Trudy instead
>Selling that ghoul kid in the fridge to slavers
>literally trying to do anything that makes Strong happy
>Dicking over Bobbi No-Nose during the end of The Dig
>Dicking over Paul and Henry during Diamond City Blues and killing them after the drug raid portion of the quest is said and done
>Lying to Malcolm Latimer about straight murdering his son in Diamond City Blues and then going along with his plan to murder Marowski
>The entirety of the Nuka World DLC
Just to name a few examples of moments where you can be a massive cockfaced weasel to other people.
Granted I kinda wish there was more stuff akin to what you could do in NV but eh.
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>>236867384
>Dicking over Bobbi No-Nose during the end of The Dig
That's the good and moral ending though.
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>>236866832
F1
>find waterchip, kill mutant
F2
>find geck, kill mutant
NV
>find platinum chip, take dam

Meanwhile 3, 4 and Skyrim have actually interesting and emotional MQs with depth, significance and interest.
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>>236867171
Why the fuck would you side with somebody who killed your father, tortured you and fully intended to kill you once you were no longer needed?
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>>236867497
>Meanwhile 3, 4 and Skyrim have actually interesting and emotional MQs with depth, significance and interest.
Listen buddy
I enjoyed Skyrim's MQ, but I don't know about this
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>>236867568
Because I believe in the cause and am willing to look past what are petty differences in the grand scheme of things.
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>>236866732
Problem is that F4 main quest doesn't fucking work with an open world game. Would have been great for something linear, because then you would actually have an arc, but playing F4 I just felt the most insencere parent in the world, going from the dramatic death and kidnapping to fucking everything that moved for an EXP bonus, and a passive perk.
>>236866923
The issue is that F4 hinders roleplay from the get go.
As a female you are a successful lawyer, as male you are a vet. Roleplay options that are out:
>virgin
>loner
>playboy/whore
>idiot
>never killed anyone / pacifist
>beggar
>any other previous job you might have imagined for your character
And it doesn't even come with relevant perks, like speech and charisma for females, and energy weapons for males. So your roleplay start is always limited to "I used to live a happy family life BUT THEN". I know it's nitpicky, but it really bothers me, because the roleplay was such a big part of the series originally.
Also the fact that you can't kill anybody. No decisions you can make. Want to kill Bobbi? Only if you wait for the moment were we tell you she can be killed now! If you attack her before, she'll just sit down and then continue talking. Can't have you make your own decisions, or end your own questlines! No, for quests you have two choices! You ignore them in perpetuity, or you do them. Move along now.
And yeah, your dialogue choices are a fucking joke too, as it's always the same 4 things "something unrelated, accept later, yes, yes but snappy" every. single. fucking. time.
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>>236867683
I get the feeling you just need a sugar daddy to order you around
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>>236867703
Fallout 4 was clearly designed around the male protagonist and the female one was more of an after thought.

It would have made more sense if the player character was always the veteran and the spouse was always the lawyer.
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>>236867703
>virgin
>loner
>idiot
So you're angry that you can't self-insert?
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>>236867703
>Can't have you make your own decisions, or end your own questlines!
And they fucking perfected this in Morrowind.
"Shit's fucked since you killed somebody vital, you should probably reload the autosave from when you entered this building if you care about the main quest."
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>>236867703
>The issue is that F4 hinders roleplay from the get go.
No more then Fallout 1/2 did in constraining you to a Vault/Village dweller background which automatically rules out a massive list of possible background options thats far more extensive then what Fallout 4 limits.
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>>236867703
To be fair all we know is they have a diploma in law, it doesn't mean they were necessarily a lawyer or that they practiced law. It's implied in the opening that they haven't used their qualifications recently (or at all) and some of the stuff that openly stated they were a lawyer/practiced law was cut from the game (e.g. the terminal in the house, part of the interview with Piper). They made it unspecific as to not limit roleplay choice as much.
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>>236867497
The difference there is that those games put a heavier emphasis of you making your own story along the way. There the main plot is just the thread your d&d DM is pulling you on along to find all these other setups along the way, they are deliberately barebones so you explore the world and make your own decisions. Of the Bethesda made ones, F3 arguably did this the best as "follow dad" was just another excuse to find sidequests, but it felt a bit obviously bread-crummy at times.
The Bethesda games though, actively TRIED to tell an engaging story and fell pretty much flat on their face. In Skyrims case because the quest was fucking dumb, (and dear lord, an ancient evil awakens but you are the chosen one is a BIT played out, leave that to Final Fantasy please) or in F4 it gets stupider the more sidequests you do as all sense of urgency is lost. Fuck, I fucked around so much building settlements, doing sidequests and collecting shit, Shaun might have gotten to that age naturally while I was fucking around.
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>>236867813
Kek. but jokes aside, playing in outlandish ways has always been a favourite in fallout games. "these weapons only" "sneak only" "speech only" "violence only" "kill literally everyone. every. single. npc" shit like that, or different backgrounds
>>236867823
Aye, was one of my favourites. It told you that you fucked up but it was like "hey it's an RPG, it's your game, you can't see the ending but keep going if you want. You do you buddy".
>>236867865
Fair point, but I still think "random vault dweller" leaves more options than F4 does. You're in there for generations, you could be anything when you come out.
>>236868042
I'm pretty sure some PC terminal mentions her being a good lawyer, might be wrong though because honestly who cares about terminal lore.
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>>236868596
There's a terminal that mentions the male MC, none that mention the female to my knowledge. There was a cut terminal in your home in Sanctuary that mentioned some legal cases they were working on though, and a cut line of dialogue with Piper where you can mention practising law.

Come to think of it though, doesn't one of the robots on the USS Constitution recognise you as a lawyer?
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>>236868831
Pretty sure they do. It's been a while though.
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The problem with Bethesda's Fallout were never "character has a backstory" because New Vegas was the first one to actually have a character with a vague enough backstory, mostly just "you worked as a courier" and that's it.

Fallout 1, you're a vault dweller, you can't be a wastelander or anything like that.
Fallout 2, you're an Arroyan citizen, descendant of the Vault Dweller.

But what these games got right is that after that it allowed you to construct your character in the game world.
Fallout 3 got some of it right with the early childhood things, so despite having a way restricted background than 1 and 2, it actually allowed you to play the childhood of the character, if you wanted to be a cunt, do this or that,kill the overseer, bully Amata, etc, I really enjoyed the childhood portion of Fallout 3 even as restricted as it was.

But Fallout 4 lacks that. You're either a good family man or a sarcastic family man.

Fallout 2 had one ending only, right? It's been a while but you just defeat the Enclave cause they're the big baddies, so the amount of endings is not the problem in Fallout 3 or 4, the problem is THE endings themselves.
You couldn't even join them like you could join The Master in Fallout 1. But the choices you did in the game impacted the ending slides, the closure.
That's the problem with Fallout 3 and 4, you never feel or see the what-could-be, the what-if scenario that your choices made in the future game world.

It is not lack of endings, restricted backstory or anything like that, it is the impact that the player has in the game world, which in Fallout 3 and 4 you have none - Megaton was alright I guess.
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>>236867205
It exist but I need to craft more radium rifles to get it
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>>236867370
If Bethesda was and continued to be a liability draining the financial power of that IP, then Microsoft steps in with a juicy check to take away all of their problems, it's not completely impossible to see



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