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Ok, I instantly fell in love with this character.
This line just fucking killed me.
Does the series keep up with its humor or is it just the first one?
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>>473983485
first one has the best writing, universally loved
the rest of the series will just depend on if you like the new characters or not
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>>473983485
only the first disgaea has writing you should care about. later disgaea games have the humor move more and more away from actual gags and more towards references and characters just having a catchphrase/gimmick they say all the time
and then their non disgaea games that came out after this tend to be better written but also, for a lack of a better word, a lot edgier

disgaea 1 is a real unique game. even its animated adaption, which you think would be really easy in a game that stylizes itself into episodes, would just be the same but with more animation but instead its a bunch of random nonsense that sort of hits the major plot beats

how much of this is because the first game was translated by atlus, while the later games were all done by the newly formed american branch of the company, is hard to say.
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is the ps4 version worth it?
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>>473985237
D1C is great. I played it on switch but I assume the PS4 version is basically the same.
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I'm playing it on emulator.
Seems like grind all day long, but I love it for some reason.
Hoppefully 6 is out by the time I finish the series.
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>>473984925
Wait


There's an anime?
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>>473983485
I bought 2-4 because 1 was a great game, but they're all mediocre by comparison.
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>>473983485
"Nice to meet you. I'm an assassin!"

Disgaea 1 was my favorite in terms of story, but the games keep improving gameplay-wise. I really wish Disgaea 1 Complete just brought over all the new gameplay features that were introduced in the later games, and had unlockable characters from all of the 4 later games, but sadly it's mostly just a graphical update.
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>>473986467
yeah and its not that bad either
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>>473987097
This whole sequence is gold.
Maybe that's how they killed Eipstein.
I don't know of any other game that gave me this feel of "fuck you, our characters are retarded, and it's funny".
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>>473987097
> the games keep improving gameplay-wise
the only actual issue with the first game is being unable to skip animations and I'm pretty sure every port added that. all the other "improvements" are just more shit to grind
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>>473983485
Only played 1 and 2, and the first one was much better story-wise.
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>>473983485
>loving sluts
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>>473988403
are you retarded? evilities are a game changers staring the third game.
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>>473989724
Idk, it's not the design but the retard angel personality that got me.
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>>473989961
The story in 1 is like a goofy anime from the same time period. I found it quite entertaining, but I am over 30, so take it with a grain of salt.
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I only played Disgaea 2 and it was cringeworthy.
How are the other ones in comparison?
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>>473993240
Disgaea 2 is the best
Also you are retarded
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>>473993240
If D2's story made you cringe, the later ones will kill you.
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>>473993240
>>473993667
>Playing Disgaea for the story and not for the retarded numbers
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>>473994384
Not me man, I was there for the numbers. Doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the rest.
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>>473993476
Disgaea 2 is fucking awful
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>>473989724
>Deliberately leaving out the last outfit she wears in canon
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To answer your question, OP, Disgaea retains its general sense of humor throughout the entire series, and even for stories that are more serious (2 and 5) every game is so full of silly flavor text it's hard not to go through a game feeling good.

If you really enjoy D1 though, Disgaea 4 is also excellent. Flonne is also in that game.
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>>473986467
OVA
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>>473986350
I hope you're at least emulating the PSP version, the Ps2 versions are a junk mess.
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None of the sequels really captured D1's charm. What a shame.
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>>473989724
It's funny that you think any D1 fan acknowledges the rest of the series even happened
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The only NIS games that compare to the first disgaea are la pucelle ragnarok and disgaea 2, but none of those two are quite as good.
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>>474004776
soul nomad is the best game NIS ever made
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>>474005514
That's a completely different beast tho, but yeah I forgot about it.

It is a really good game.
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are disgaea 3 and 4 any good?
2 and 5 were a disappointment
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>>473986350
>Hoppefully 6 is out by the time I finish the series.
Anon...
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>>474006238
they will dissapoint you if you didn't like 2 and 5
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>>473986467
There is, but it's nothing great aside from the Red Moon adaptation and the personality/clothes swap episode.
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>>473983485
It's got it weaker and stronger part as does any series.
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>>473983485
>>473984530
>>473984925
Disgaea 1 is literally a carebear story. Little boy hates love because his mommy died but learns to make friends and love others.

Kill yourselves.
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>>473983485
Disgaea 1 was released 2003
around this time it was ok to have a somewhat romance story in a video game and jokes

after this
Disgaea 2 was released around 2006/07
KEEP IN MIND WHAT HAPPENED 2007
This was when the game went down the shitter, everyone became an iphone and lurked the newly web 2.0 internet with his fresh facebook account that was released to the public 2007 too.
The year everything went to shit.
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>>474008748
You got a problem with love, faggot?
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>>474008791
>everyone became an iphone
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>>474008961
I got a problem with rejects pretending Disgaea 1 isn't shit and Laharl isn't an annoying faggot.
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>>474008981
correct, everyone became an iphone. Its not like just a product they got, they became the product!!!
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>>474008748

"Story is simple" isn't an argument for bad quality. You could say "I didn't like the story, it was too simple" but Disgaea 1 is pretty competently done.
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>>473995201
You're wrong.
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>>474009313
I said nothing of its complexity. It's for babies.
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>>474009445

>it's for babies
>I said nothing of its complexity

You didn't like the story personally, my dude. It's a fine story for pretty much all ages, barring the anime tiddie stuff for very young kids I guess.
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>>474009629
Imagine being 35 years old and enjoying a story for babies. Oh wait, you don't need to imagine that.
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>>474009938
>I only play mature games for mature gamers such as myself
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>>474006238
both games are the same 3 jokes repeated 5000 times
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>>474009351
The characters are all uninteresting with some even bordering on annoying, the story meanders with the same goddamn "oh no I'm going to have to fight Rozalin's father what do I do" "oh no Adell is going to have to fight my father what do I do" shit every single chapter, the Disgaea 1 characters felt totally out of place and shoehorned in, and they do literally fucking nothing with the two biggest revelations and chances for actually interesting character moments in the game which is honestly fucking criminal.
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>>473983485
No, play Labyrinth of Refrain instead.
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>>474006238
5 was the best since 1 so you might as well skip them.
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>>474008748
disgaea 1's strength is in its themes and strong cast of characters who change over time, not the cliff notes of what happens. since its a parody of jrpgs it needs to have a jrpg story. you're also glossing over a lot of great moments like red moon or laharl getting the pendant

compare that with the later games that are just fucking around for 80% of the game while whatever character of the episode says some dumb shit and then the main characters say their catchphrases in response and then in the last 20% of the game most of the plot happens and everything is suddenly very dramatic.
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>>474010412
>main character acts like a psychopath for the first hour of the game to try and sell that you're playing as Bad Guy
>spends the rest of the game just being kind of grumpy before the envitable sad backstory is revealed

why does nis keep doing this? labrinyth, hundred knight, makai kingdom.
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>>473984530
Pretty much.

>>474008748
You can make all of the plots sound simplified for the sake of argument.
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>>474009027
No, Anon, it is you who is the faggot.
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>>474010307
And all of those moments at the end of some chapters where everything is bleak and it seems like the characters are about to get killed and it just cuts to black and everything it's alright in the next chapter
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>>473983485
it gets worse. much worse. atleast one kept it somewhat tame.

play soul nomad.
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>>474010762
Dreselda was a pretty evil cunt right up until the twist reveal, but yeah it'd be nice to actually be the bad guy for once.
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reminder that disgaea 1 has a single(one)(uno) flat chest joke and its actually relevant to the scene & part of a bigger joke
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>>474010762
wait, mettallia isn't the despicable human being the reviewers said she was?
well that sucks
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I stopped at dd2 baal just how more will they keep powercreeping this giga nigga
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>>474010412
Based
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>>474011383
But why are they so flat?
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>>474011478
she does some fucked up stuff early on but it's all generally either to people who have it coming or the game later goes "actually everything is fine =)" many hours later. the much talked about scene where she turns someone into a mouse so she can get raped by rats is a great example of this, that character ends up completely fine and not a mouse.

even the general premise of the game is turned around to actually be a good thing
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>>474010412
I'm trying to pirate it but it keeps saying that the steamclient.dll is missing even though it's on the same folder, am I a brainlet bros?
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>>474012342
Yes
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>>474012171
To make them not sexual.
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>>474012342
That's the Steam DRM message, it means you didn't crack it dumdum
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>>473983485
Too bad some of the later games (2 and 4 especially) tend to flanderize the original cast's personalities.
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>>474014740
It makes sense in a way because cameos only have so much time to have a character in the spotlight so you play up what they're most known for to milk it.
Now Disgaea D2 has no excuse for it.
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>>474012738
How would I even crack it though? I already used everything that was in the codex folder and the client that I extracted
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>>474011660
cute boy
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>>474015393
Luca is a cute young lady, THIS is a cute boy.
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>>474015020
Gotta love repeating character development from D1 that didn't need to be repeated. And gotta love the completely new forgettable characters instead of the better old ones.
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>>474015821
if he's a boy, then why is he covering his boobies?
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>>474016853
modesty
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>>474016853
Those aren't boobies that's obviously a manly chest.
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>>474015393
Luca is a girl
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>>473994384
Numbersfags need to be gassed, you are literally ruining gaming.
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3 made me laugh alot
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>>474019056
>not the lootboxes
>not executive medling
>not twitch/youtube gaming
>it's the niche JRPGs that's ruining vidya
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>>474010762
It's not NIS' fault, they're following the shitty anime story trend of trying to have your cake and eat it too.
>oh this guy went completely against us and caused multiple deaths BUT HE IS KIND OF ACTING LIKE HE'S SORRY SO LETS NOT PUNISH HIM BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE COMMITTING TO PRINCIPLES
>this guy killed a vital figure in our society with no real advantage to us for having done so BUT HE'S COMPETENT SO INSTEAD OF JAILTIME WE'LL GIVE HIM A HIGH RANKING POSITION EVEN AFTER HE THREW OUR CITY INTO CIVIL WAR
>this guy is attacking our benevolent gods and trying to kill them for existing above humanity even though they aren't even lording over us or anything BUT HE WAS JUST SAD ABOUT HIS INSECURITIES TOWARD HIS BROTHER SO LETS LET THE POORGUY OFF THE HOOK
>this guy betrayed all of humanity for a bit of power over the world BUT HE WAS NICE AFTER THAT AND FIXED IT AFTER SO MANY YEARS OF TORTUROUS CONDITIONS AND ATTACKS FROM MONSTERS EVERYWHERE SO HE'S ALRIGHT IN MY BOOK
>my gf lied and convinced me to kill all my friends because she said I could revive them but that turned out to not be possible BUT AWWWW SHE CAME TO VISIT ME WHEN I WAS GRIEVING SO IT'S ALL HUNKY DOREY
I hate anime so much sometimes. It's always at the end too, they bait you with some good shit and then just as justice is about to be served, they pull the sob story out of their ass so the weebs who want their hollywood happy ending don't need to feel like an antagonist's reprehensible actions are something they need to feel negative toward that character for. At least for me, it makes me feel less toward the story in general because it just says the things I thought mattered actually don't.
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>>474019863
Me too anon, chef shamploo is too based.
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>>474016210
I didn't even play or see much of 3 and Mao's relationship with the fake hero stuck with me. Didn't get far in 4 yet (Vita storage corrupted all my saves, still too mad to go back) but I love what I saw of Valvatorez and his butler even though it was mostly stupid jokes. Unless you mean new ones from DD2 specifically, never played that.
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Tactics Ogre LUCT > Final Fantasy Tactics > Fire Emblem Awakening > SRW A3 > Disgaea > Wild Arms XF > Suikoden Rhapsodia
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>>474022823
>Awakening
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Disgaea 1: PSP or PC?
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>>474024006
psp
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>>473983485
>Series establishes itself on parodies and subverting the basics of the story dynamic. Keeping itself overall light hearted and being able to tighten up in its third act to actually hit home.
>Next couple games fluxuate, often hitting too hard on the comedy side and letting characters be too basic but still largely being beloved.
>DD2 can't find any middle ground and just bounces wildly between being the a wild collection of largely stupid episodic problems and then tries to go hard on Etna's backstory in the last like two chapters to be serious.
>5 then plays almost everything straight and has no strong SoL Comedy. Takes the edgiest protag, give him an edgier rival-antagonist, and then have the final boss be woe he has to kill his loved one/step-sister.
I'm fucking terrified of what might even happen with 6.
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>>474024223
I've got bad news
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>>474024223
6 will be a SoL VN, a brave new direction for the Disgaea franchise.
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I've never understood why people seem to think 1s story is so much better. I've played every Disgaea on release except 2 and liked all their stories, the only thing I'd say is HOW MUCH you'd like them depends on how much you'd like the party dynamic. Kind of like the Tales of games, actually.

I love 1s story, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's bad or you can't like it most. Just that I think they're all pretty fun.

>>474004776
If you're talking story, most of their side stuff like Hundred Knight honestly has pretty fucking great story where they're a little bit more serious and dark than Disgaea is.

If you're talking gameplay, Disgaea just straight up gets better with every game.
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>>474024223
>Series establishes itself on parodies and subverting the basics of the story dynamic.
It really didn't do anything beyond basic parody. Something the games still do this day.

>5 then plays almost everything straight and has no strong SoL Comedy.
The fucking protagonist of 5 was edgelord bait, complete with inner turmoil and "Whatever...", but then turned out to basically be a more stoic Kamina. If that's not a subversion of story dynamics, what the fuck is?
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>>474024821
>I've never understood why people seem to think 1s story is so much better.
because you like "muh dream" and "muh final boss"
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>>474024223
>Takes the edgiest protag
Did you even play 5?
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>>474025213
If you think Fuka is just muh dream you weren't paying attention.
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>>474024223
Val is on par and sometimes voted ahead of Laharl in polls, outside of Laharl/Etna/Flonne the remaining D1 cast is absolutely shitstomped by D4's entire crew.
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>>474025521
Yeah, Japs hate Gordon & crew because they have terrible taste
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>>474025521
4 is so god awful
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>>474025213
I mean if you're going to purposefully ignore things about them then it sounds like you don't WANT to actually enjoy the newer stories. You could just as much say Flonne is "MUH LOVE". Characters do sometimes have defining elements to them, but saying that word doesn't make them a bad character suddenly.

I enjoy Fuka's arc of having to accept her situation and become (a little) less selfish and accepting of those around her, and I love Desco's earnest care for her sister and desire to be the best she can be for her. I enjoy their dynamic as drama-loving teenage girl types of the group alongside Val/Artina romance plot and I love the way they grow to be genuine sisters over time.

I also just think Desco is the sweetest damn thing too though, I won't lie.
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>>474021248
Yeah, I was referring to DD2's new characters. They're all so boring in comparison to what 1 introduced.
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At least we can all agree that 2 had the worst cast.
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>>474025214
>>474025069
Yes. And?
Laharl's a brat who develops a heart of gold.
Adell's a SEIJI NO MIKATA fight autist, even if secretly he isn't human, he's the most vanilla hero out of the roster.
Mao's a dork whose goal of becoming a stronger is played as petty and childish start to finish, and all out of Geoffrey's influence.
Valzy might be the best boy out of this entire series and wants MNGA.
Killia's a dark shounen protag who never really stepped out past it. Finishing off/saving Goldion, taking down Void, avenging (and slaying) Loenie or whatever her name was, is him overtaking his past and gets a damn Super Saiyan power up for semi-literally absorbing his darkness.

>>474026141
Best main couple. Yukikaze was ok. Everyone else out of the main cast was pretty awful.
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>>474026141
People love Raspberyl but 3 has the worst cast
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>>474025521
Val is great and you can say what you want about "muh sardines" but a protagonist who, from the start, is not only an adult, but also a very morally centred one that sticks to his beliefs and walks the walk as much as he talks the talk is fucking GREAT. Val is a fucking great protag, and his brodom with Fenrich is wonderful too
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>>474026141
That would be 5
I think we can all agree that DD2 was a mistake
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did flonne and laharl bang yet or are they still just gag cameo characters in the sequels

i stopped playing after disgaea 3
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The problem with Disgaea's fanbase is half of them are grindanfags, half of the remaining half is just drooling waifufags and the remaining half is the group of people who actually replay the stories multiple times to get a feel for the characters.

Grindanfags speed through the story exactly one time (or they pull a Ulillia and skip all the story) then try to claim shit like D4's characters had no depth and D1 is the only good story despite the fact that the only Disgaea game with an outright bad story is DD2. People like this only can remember the silly meme cutscenes and claim this is all the characters are, totally ignoring all the effort NIS puts in to writing it's characters.

For example, did you know Fenrich is half human? And the entire reason he seeks out a suitable master is because he fucking hates his human half and knows it would hinder him from taking over the universe? Did you know Fuka had to work for fucking Etna of all people before arriving to Hades? Shit like this goes way over the head of your average grindanfag, which would be fine if they didn't stick their fucking heads into Disgaea discussion threads and try to argue with half correct information they only vaguely remember form their single run through the story.
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>>474026672
Even though it tries to act like any semblance of maturity is in these games, Disgaea as a whole is just your average PBS kids show with reddit humor and anime aesthetic. Characters don't fuck because it's a cartoony game for kids.
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>>474026396
>Killia's a dark shounen protag who never really stepped out past it.
He became an older brother figure for Zeroken and lead the group instead of being a passive that refused to be with others out of fear bad things would happen to them. He accepted his own mistakes and regrets and went on to relearn to trust others and himself around others.

Calling him "edgy and that's it" is extremely disingenuous.

>>474026672
Flonne is kinda notable in the main story of 4.

5 is a prequel so yeah.
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>>474026935
i just want timeskip laharl & flonne

and timeskip etna so I can stop feeling bad about liking her 16 years later
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>>474026748
>Did you know Fuka had to work for fucking Etna of all people before arriving to Hades? Shit like this goes way over the head of your average grindanfag
Ummmm did you know Etna likes a pudding or whatevs? Lmao sooooo deep!
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>>474024223
I thought Killia was supposed to be a parody of edgey protagonists or something
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>>474027056
The characters can't grow too much, there are still so many games left for them to cameo in!
>>474027176
Just because he may start that way doesn't mean that has to be all there is to him. Character development and all that.
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>Steam version of the first game lacks the movement speed up setting present in the DS version
Literally fucking why? Apparently those fuckers on the forum campaigned for bug fixes and shit for ages but never fucking asked for the movement speed up back
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>>474026748
>Did you know Fuka had to work for fucking Etna of all people before arriving to Hades?
I don't remember this and I've played Disgaea 4s story four times. Where was it said?

It's been a fair few years, mind so I may have just forgotten.
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>>473983485
Great taste. I really liked 4's story and characters myself (Flonne is in it too!) but a lot of people hate it because of Fuka.
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>>474027176
I'll admit I played it a little to aggressively.
But fuck like most things in 5 it just feels so... straight-played. The banter feels so flaccid in comparison to past games. There's basically no curves to the story.
From fucking moment 1 we know our villain. That's such a god damn oddity for this series. The closest thing is in 2, but even then it's because of what Zenon actually is and how it actually plays into Rozalin and Adel's relationship.
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>>474027492
Even in Complete the basic controls feels worse than the DS version, it's honestly embarrassing.
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>>474008743
daily reminder that la pucelle bad end is the true end
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>>474026672
Only Adell and Rozalin are allowed to keep their romantic/character progression in their cameos.
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>>474027754
It's also the most interesting ending
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1 and 5 are worth it, the rest are eh
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>>474027632
Chapter 2. This is a reference to the plot of Prinny 1. In D4's manga they even show Etna outright in a flashback.
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>>474027754
Imagine not preferring the bad ending in games.
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>>474028089
Ha, that'd be why it flew over my head. Neat.
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>>474027754
Yes and the canon ending for Disgaea 1 is the ending where Laharl fucking kills himself.
I've worked on a disgaea timeline and it's fucking awful to work out.
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>>474024006
everything after the PSP port of D1 is soulless milking
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>>474027920
That's because that's the only thing about them, they're so one note. Even more than other Disgaea characters.
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>>474028387
But he did
In the prinny timeline
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>>473983485
I haven't actually played Disgaea past part 2. I remember the dub being actually decent for the time period. Shame that Etna VA was only in the first game.
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>>474028387
Not unless he worked through Prinny reincarnation in less than 3 years
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>>474028387
Holy shit, fucking spoilers my guy
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>>474028773
It's not the actual ending don't worry.
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>>474028742
If anyone can, it's Laharl
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>>474028773
Disgaea is older than the average /v/ poster.
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>>474028773
Disgaea 1 has like a dozen endings and that's just the one that leads into the Prinny spinoff games, relax
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>>474028742
I wasn't memeing.
D3 <-> D5+D5 Post (nothing specifies which of these come first, but they are the earliest) -> D1 -> P1 -> Axel Mode -> D2+D2 Post -> D1 Post -> D3 Post -> DD2 (Raspberyl Mode takes place concurrently) -> D4 -> D4 Post/DD2 Post. ->
The biggest question is how the FUCK Almaz and Sapphire stay alive that long.
Etna mode's non canon.
Never played Infinite.
Nothing in Prinny 2 specifies when it takes place, other than "between D1 and D4."
AMA.
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>>474028998
They were made canon by 4, it's the real ending. Anime confirms this as well.
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>>474029307
>D3 <-> D5
what the fuck???
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>>474029307
Right from the get go I'm gonna have to ask you how the fuck you think Disgaea 3 takes place before Disgaea 5, the game stated outright to take place thousands of years before D1.
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>>474029307
>Nothing in Prinny 2 specifies when it takes place
It's the most important game though
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>>474029353
Anime is a shitty AU, unless you're saying Flonne actually wandered the Netherworld alone for 2 whole years and that Laharl and co met the DoE in fucking chapter 1. Disgaea's anime barely resembles the game's plot and should not be considered a part of Disgaea canon.
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>>474029307
>D3 <-> D5
I haven't played D3 but I'm pretty sure they're not over ten thousand years old when they start mixing with the other games
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>>474029353
your mistake was caring about anything beyond the first disgaea. the only other nis srpg worth playing is soul nomad.
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>>474029734
Never played it but it has one of the most interesting JRPG final boss songs I've heard. Is it obtainable on PSN for Vita or anything?
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>>474029472
>>474029535
>>474029695
Literally the next thing I wrote.
Nothing about the events of 3 before postgame that makes ANY reference to anything in this series for its timeline placement.
The overall system of the netherworld and literal medieval state which (earth) is at all point to it predating 1, as does 5.
I'll concede that I somehow missed 5 being literal millennia beforehand, and will adjust that any time I bring it up henceforth.

>>474029562
No games reference the Panty incident. Prinny 2's only consistency with any other game is Asagi mode into Asagi mode.
As the Prinnyharal and Prince Sweet fights are so specific to get, I kinda just call the Flonne fight the canon event. Hence, it has to happen between 1 and 4.
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>tfw Disgaea 1 anime kinda fucked over every future NIS thing from ever getting an anime
I'd love a Hundred Knight 1 anime
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>>473984925
The vampire that capricously makes incredible promises while also having the trait of autistically keeping his promises was interesting.
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Is this a NIS THREAD? CAN I GET A THEME SONG FOR OUR UNLOAING RANGER?
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I've only played La Pucelle and Disgaea 1, but I picked up Disgaea 5 while it was on sale recently, and I gotta say I'm a bit disappointed by the power creep. Becoming Overlord in La Pucelle was the ultimate ending that took hours of grindan. Now I play like the second stage of D5 and the level 10 wrestle man at the top of the map is considered an overlord. Bein' an overlord ain't what it used to be.
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>>474030389
Being an overlord early in (timeline wise) meant jack sit because all it meant was you were the strongest kid on your block.
By the time of later disgaea games and LP, it's actually a challenge because so many territories have been merged into monarchies.
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>>474030038
>Nothing about the events of 3 before postgame that makes ANY reference to anything in this series for its timeline placement.
Wronnnng, in the bad ending Axel shows up, meaning there's no significant time skip between D2 and D3, possibly a few years at most, maybe even a few days. Just because D3 was free of referencing other characters mid story doesn't suddenly make it fucking thousands of years earler than other games. Postgame is canon and D3's postgame directly follows up on the sub plot of Laharl chasing Baal through netherworlds after defeating him in D1's postgame.
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>>474008748
It’s about the execution
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>>474030389
>*crack* *siiiip* "Ahhhh. Back in my day..."
Fuck off. Orangeverlord good, make underworld great again
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>>474030592
>Axel
Ugh
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>>474030592
If you notice.
>>474029307
I DO put the post-games separate, because often there is a gap. I've been counting them all as canon.
And D3's post game is RIGHT after 1's.
I also really don't remember the bad ending.
Again, this thread shows I need to revise 3's placement but everyhing else holds.
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>>474030592
>meaning there's no significant time skip between D2 and D3, possibly a few years at most, maybe even a few days
Wait, I'm lost here.
Because D3 humans are basically a fantasy isekai earth, D1 humans are ultra space-age earth. And there's a clear 3 year gap between 1 and 2.
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>>474030389
5s gimmick specifically is that almost every relevant character is an overlord. It's the exception, not the modern standard. In the other games an overlord is typically a rare and respected figure.

This is less power creep and more just using the setting in a different way.
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>>474030297
>change equipment
>song becomes an absolute mess that mixes j-pop and hotblooded /m/ vocals
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>>474030297
ABSOLUTE VICTORY UNLOSING RANGER!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMrpRrLa66g

when did NIS lose its soul?
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>>474031063
Best Mid-boss
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>>474031068
Like you said, D1's humans are super advanced while D3's are fantasy isekai because the two have nothing to do with each other.

Most Netherworlds have their own human world, there are just as many human worlds as there are netherworlds, D3's human world was NOT Earth, just a human world, much like how Veldime was also a human world pre Zenon.

It's possible the Earth in D1 is the same as the Earth in D4 and the DoE is from America while Genjiro Kazumatsuri is from Japan but that's pretty unclear, D4 earth DOES suffer from the same pollution problem that D1's earth does, but this is a totally different subject.
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>>474031206
They didn't. 5 and Refrain were great. As is this absolute sweetheart. Fuck the haters.
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>>474031206
When Disgaea 2 development began.
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>>474031449
zhp came after disgaea 2 tho
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they need to let the writer/s that worked on LoR work on disgaea. it would make for a great game.
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>>474031176
Just like TSR
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>>474031420
dunno heard disgaea 5 story wasn't that great and everything else is DLC OUT THE FUCKING ASSSSS SHIIIIIT FUUUUUUUUCK
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>>474031402
Huh. Didn't know that. Given 1 & 4 have such a direct link and how the societies of Netherworld, Celestia, and "Earth" played largely the same, I assumed they were the same. And 2 was explicitly still a nether world that had humans. So I just kinda guessed 3 was also Earth.
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>>474031206
when they started to put more DLC characters than actual postgame bosses.
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>>474031776
>Calling 4 soulless.
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>>474031063
Best dad
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>>474031206
when they released Asagi's game
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>>474031868
with that much DLC it is
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>>474030129
That'd be fucking great. The gameplay was easily the worst part so, given it has an actual budget, it would probably be better than the game itself.
There's even the added bonus of getting to see the PC crowd lose their shit over the mouse rape scene again.
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>>474031868
Not that anon, but I wasn't too big of a fan of 4. It had a huge case of "GET IT OVER WITH ALREADY".

Yes, Fuuka and desco did have character development outside the whole dream and final boss thing but those traits and jokes overstayed its welcome. Artina was just there too.
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>>474031420
If D6 doesn't have Liar Princess as DLC I'll be disappointed
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>>474030213
The level of absolute trust between him and Fenrich was pretty bro-tier too.
>>474030583
With the way the classifications expanded though, being an Overlord was still kind-of low tier in the later games. Fuck, in 5 you might as well be a mook for how little it meant.
Once Tyrant became more than just Baal's title, Tyrant Overlord became the real chad rank, with a few outliers like Zetta and Zenon who had their own special ones.
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>>474031643
Naw you got it backwards, Disgaea 2's world was a Human World that got taken over by demons, the whole plot was that all the people who used to be normal humans were being turned into demons by Zenon's curse or whatever.
There's just as many human worlds as there are Netherworlds, but there's only a single Celestia which watches over all of them, this is why in D5 Christo says that there are many Overlords where he's from, there have to be since Celestia is likely fucking massive.
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>>473985237
Check to be sure, but they might have replaced some sprites and classes with "updated" ones from the newer entries. Galaxy demon and sea serpent probably got the axe because NIS didn't want to update the sprites, and wanted to plug and chug from the later entries.
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>>474030297
ZHP's music was so great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_TmhQ19Va0
I never get tired of the part where the oppressive choir gets pushed back by the thunderous applaud of the world.
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>>474032138
>The game where Flonne saves the entirety of the human race by having a giant robot powered by people's wishes push the moon back into orbit; which she afforded by tricking a lower-ranking angel into fucking robbing the netherworld blind
>The chapter where there's a fucking plague of people turning into Axels and everyone is more afraid of it than death
>The post-game fight that explains why Pink changed classes and it's actually a sob story about the one person who actually buys all of axel's bullshit
You can say it went on too long, and I can agree.
But it shot the shit better than arguably any game before it.
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>>474029307
This timeline is completely and utterly wrong. Disgaea's timeline is not nearly as complex as this, as outside of outliers like D5 and DD2 it's simply in release order with small gaps in between. Things like postgame happen generally right after the end of the main story with a small break, the only exception being D3's which had a slightly bigger gap of time since Almaz and Sapphire went off to get married and stuff.

Disgaea 5 takes place thousands of years before D1, Disgaea D2 is a completely split off dimension (hence the name Disgaea: Dimension 2), meaning in canon there are 2 sets of Laharls, Etnas and Flonnes. They even outright reference that the D1 trio from DD2 are separate from the D1 trio in D1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZuN4J2FWcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abk84OKl1Ts

Adell in this screenshot is referring to the ending of Disgaea 2, where Hanako runs off with Etna to become an Overlord, however since DD2 Etna never went to Veldime, she never meets Hanako, meaning that while the other Disgaea games have a single, unified timeline, DD2 is a split from the rest..
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>>474008748
And that's a good thing, you edgy fuck. Goddamn, put a little positivity in your life. You're a grown ass man.
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>>474032835
>DLC characters matter in the canon
Shut the fuck up.
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>>474032652
Man I love d4. I only had it for Vita and my Vita kicked the bucket last year so I'm genuinely excited for the rerelease next month.
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>>474011478
She walks around in a swamp with bare feet. She's despicable.
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>>474031868
>DLC
tyrant valvatorez shouldn't have been DLC. that's just being fucking greedy
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>>474032938
You retard, this is just more proof that DD2 has nothing to do with the rest of the Disgaea timeline, it's also consistent with the rest of the things that DD2 does differently like Etna remaining at the Overlord's Castle after 2 years when she should have left by that point, or Flonne remaining in the Netherworld when she would have returned to Celestia to become an Angel again.

DLC AND Postgame are canon, especially things like extra storylines such as the Fuka DLC or Raspberyl DLC.
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>>474033312
The problem is that if you include DLC characters, and not just the stories like Raspberyl's, then everything gets more fucked because EVERYONE appears EVERYWHERE.
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>>474032938
>i dont like it so its not canon >:(
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>>474020937
Please watch Cross Ange if you haven't already. I guarantee that you'll like it.
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>>474031538
Exactly
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>>473989724
where is flonzilla?
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>>474015289
I know I'm outing myself as a soap licking retarded mouthbreather, but has anyone here succeeded in playing the game with the codex crack? Even when I select the option in the setup to move everything from the codex folder to the game folder it still gives me the exact same error
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>>474033689
That's unironically fine, they always include an in universe reason for why other characters show up from other games. For example, in Phantom Brave, Marona runs into the Unlosing Ranger, Zetta and a few others because some dimensional hole called the Hermuda Triangle opens up near her.
Things like Time Travel and dimension hopping are actual non-issues for NIS characters. Another example is Artina going back in time just to rob Hoggmeiser before he loses his fortune, there she meets Val before their canon meeting in Disgaea 4 and their dialog references that Artina can't reveal herself to him yet and he vaguely remembers her.

NIS' timeline is expansive but certainly not messy, just big and hard to keep up with unless you're a turbo autist who plays every game in full.
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I cant bring myself to finish 4, ive gotten to chapter 9 ish but for fuck sakes Fuka's dream autism kills me, everytime she makes headway or any sense of growth its ruined by "THIS IS JUST A DREAM" and the fact that the other characters call this out doesnt help it at all, its not funny
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>>474033689
These characters are more like mascots than actual characters. They don't need a legit reason to be around in later games other than for fans to clap.
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>>474034481
What I mean is that, because everyone gets everywhere in DLC, it's always hand-waved as to how for those extra characters. It's NORMALLY some kind of time travel of dimension hopping that gets them into games they "shouldn't" be in.
Using them or what they say as any qualifier for a TIMELINE of the events in the games is what's retarded.
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>>474025889
Im totally with you, but the fuka dream thing fucking kills it for me, she invalidates everything later in the game because her inability to see what the fucks going on, she has moments of clarity but they are dashed along with Desco's feelings because she keeps denying reality
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>>474034116
I will, thanks.
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>>474034481
>Phantom Brave
Never got past the first hour, the characters were so cringy I thought it had to be a parody at first but it slowly dawned on me that these tired archetypes were being played completely straight and written as poorly as possible. The music was nice and I liked the movement not being a direct grid, but for SRPGs especially I need a good story and characters to carry me through.
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What is the best game and why is it Asagi Wars?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4NqsgUH0ek
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Best game coming through
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>>474035073
>The fucking beetle fight
One of the dumbest and most amazing things in this series.
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>>474035073
Asagi doesn't deserve anything good in life. She should marry Axel as their egos will constantly be in conflict leading to domestic abuse but he's her only way to stay relevant so she puts up with it until sometime down the line when he goes too far and kills her but isn't too choked up by it. Forget Asagi.
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>>474035197
I don't remember these guys from Makai Kingdom.
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>>474034116
Fucking hell was that anime a ride to watch, satisfying to watch the villian get cucked so fucking hard
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>>474033116
She wears shoes.
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>>474034362
Well if it doesn't work and you have no idea why try looking for another torrent or cracker
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>>473983485
how do I leave the item world in the first game?
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>>474035539
Sure, on picture day.
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>>474034649
How? They obey the rules of the timeline and have no real affect on anything in the game outside of going "remember me?" and leaving. In some instances they aren't even their actual selves, they leave a shadow the player can use as a unit and fuck off.
Disgaea DLC cameos are the equivalent to a character going to a hotel for a night, it's no big deal but it DOES happen.
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>>474035680
frag the item general/god/whatever, prompt should come up to either leave item world or go to innocent town.
if the innocent town prompt comes up, go to innocent town and the dimension guide should let you out.
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>>474035927
Everything in Disgaea 5, on disc, is the start of the series.
Lady Laharl is in Disgaea 5, as DLC.
That does not make Disgaea 5 during/after DD2.
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>>474036335
Then expmain my feelings.
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>>474035279
>Summer greetings! Please post more Asagi!
Sure thing anon. I'm glad you have such great taste in top Netherwold idols.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0StgUmuqNg
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>>474036481
You are a silly silly little man who believes that paid cameos actually matter and are not anything more than lip service for making you pay for characters they largely just port from one game to the next.
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>>474035927
I want to agree with that, but then I remember how DD2 used two conflicting versions of Priere and #dealwithit'd rather than using Ragnarok's explaination, so yeah.
I don't think it means anything on more than a compartmentalized per-game thing.
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>>474036993
i figured the games were more episodic like that anyway.
besides, everyone knows the best characters are the recruit classes anyway
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In terms of "stupidly nerfing things in a single player game."
>Nerfing Curse Storm
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>>474034362
I played it to completion. Get a proper crack, you gored pleb.
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>>473993240
If you are into meme voices Disgaea 5 has Dio's voice actor who may also be a WH40K refference.
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>>474037972
Where did you download it from wise one?
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>>474038603
I got mine from GazelleGames but I'm guessing cs.rin.ru has a working one too.
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>>474038014
"Red Magnus is gonna take that spear of yours, polish it up REAL GOOD, and shove it up YOUR. CANDY. ASS."
He and Christo carried 5.
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>>474038603
Oh by the way, did you make sure your AV isn't blocking the dll? They do that with cracks sometimes.
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>>474038815
>>474038717
I checked the files and actually downloaded the .dll and then I realized that actually a bunch of stuff was missing from the basic files, I'll try downloading it from the site you recommended, thanks a lot anon
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How bad it Hundred Knight 2? I liked the first game but I know that the second crashed and burned in Japan.
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>>474038807
3lewd5me
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>>473983485
>Beat Disgaea 1 years ago.
>Get Disgaea 5.
>Combat is good I guess but the characters are so assfuck boring it's criminal.
Should I just go do Disgaea D2?
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Anyone else like DD2? Getting the max likeability conversations between each leading guy and girl were great, especially Adell and Zenon Rozalin.
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>>474039804
Just skip the story. It goes full fucking retard anyway so just enjoy the gameplay.
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can it be prinny tiem nao dood?
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>>474039916
Sicily: Kinda deviantart OC but overall pretty good.
Etna getting pissed about Laharl getting tits: Great.
Pure flonne: pointless
Ranier being the actual reason why Laharl has titphobia: Great.
Sea Angels: Best monster mob.
Barbara: Hilarious but shallow.
Golem & Gargoyle: Bores. Contributed nothing.
Zenolith: Waste of effort.
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>>474040227
I agree, Xenolith was a waste and his plan was pretty shit, Barbara shtick got old fast and that Krichevskoy group were dull.
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Anyone playing Makai Wars?
The latest story with Desco being trained by Aurum was quite fun.
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>>474039916
Despite my feelings towards DD2's plot, I will say that some of its mechanics were great. I really liked the affection system in game (although if you want any chance in hell of beating Baal, you have to make everyone hate you. That was really dumb).
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>>473983485
I'm probably the only one that loves Disgaea 2 over all of the other ones.
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>>474024006
Both are pretty much the same, if you're emulating the PSP you at least have save states and maybe 60fps if the PC port doesn't run at 60fps.
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>>474026748
>half of them are grindanfags, half of the remaining half is just drooling waifufags
>Implying these 2 aren't the same thing
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>>474044147
There are waifufags who don't play the games.
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>>474028089
That's kinda weird. I always thought the Prinny series took off from the bad ending of Disgaea 1 because there's a Prinny Laharl in it and Etna runs everything. But now seeing this just makes my head spin.
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>>474045774
>D4 directly references it as a real thing
>D2 specifically has Etna pissed Laharl ate her pudding.
>If you beat the super dungeon in Prinny 1, you fight Prinny Laharl who complains he's the cause of the game and is upset the pudding wasn't even that good.
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What do you think are the best protags and main females of the series?
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>>474045774
Laharl probably just died in an unrelated incident and then got reincarnated.
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>>474045980
Best protag: Laharl or Val
Best female lead: Raspberyl.
Best girl: Sea angels
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>>473983485
Play Disgaea D2

its supposed to be "about Etna", but to me, Flonne still stole the show.
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>>474043051
I can't say that I like it as far as story and characters go more than the first one, but it's the one that I've played the most and have the most nostalgia for due to playing it for longer than the others.
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>>474045980
>Best protagonist
Val, Killia
>Best female lead
Vulcanus
>Best generic
Beastmaster, Thief
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Midboss is best character fite me
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Do I have to be a pedo to enjoy Disagea?
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>>474046903
No, but it helps.
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>>474046903
No. It's unironically a good series.
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>>474046903
It's a meme, Disgaea caters to all tastes, actually.
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>>474046903
No, but best girls are all flat or male.
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Is there anything that satisfies the grind power itch like Disgaea on 3DS?
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What's the likelihood of NIS porting the rest of their non-Disgaea games to Steam? I'd say La Pucelle and Makai Kingdom are the most likely, with Soul Nomad not being as fortunate.
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>>474048813
Someone should ask them daily on their twitter.
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>>474045774
Like >>474046086 said, it's entirely possible the Prinny games took place in the normal timeline and Laharl died and un-died in some extra story. Also Etna in the Prinny games just seems to sit around the Overlord's castle all day with Flonne. granted that's not too much different than what Laharl does but it would make more sense for the Prinnies to be checking in and working for Etna since she's their boss.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1zrwNrOlFU
Flonne is a miracle of the universe.



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