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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVZ5oQLtXw8&feature=youtu.be&t=697

AHAHAHAHAHA THIS GAME LOOKS FUCKING AWFUL. Why did anyone expect anything good from this shitty developer (Hardsuit Labs)?

"Hardsuit Labs" is just a bunch of devs from the now-dead Zombie Studios: https://www.metacritic.com/company/zombie-studios
Metacritics in the 50's.
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lmao jesus the backflip
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
holy fuck this is going to be one of the worst games ever made.
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0:26 seconds in
>The city has seen a 30% rise in the number of undocumented immigrants
/pol/tards BTFO
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What did you expect from Parajews?
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>>466054141
why did they hand this off to some terrible developer? They actually think they can just flip this IP for a quick buck? Absolutely disgusting.
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this game should've just been a walking sim desu, Hard Suit us somehow shitting out gameplay much worse than the original game. I didn't think that would even by possible. And they still call this pre-alpha footage when launch is less than a year away?
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>>466054075
jesus christ
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>>466053515
>that ost
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>466054075
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>>466053515
This genuinely looks terrible. The combat animations its just...
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This is your developer for tonight.
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don't worry, friend. At least they made sure this Tranny won't feel too bad being an unsightly hideous rotten monster in the virtual world too!
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>Blindspot
>There's a woman NPC looking at him
Does the game not just care about that and it's all about where you're doing your shit? Or is it a bug?
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>>466053515
Janky as hell.. Just how a VTMB game should be
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>VTMB2fags all quiet
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>>466055197
>I can't just not play this race
>I have to stop everyone else from playing it too
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>>466055306
>VTMB2fags
Those exist? Or are you just referring to the homosexuals working on the game?
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>>466055197
I thought this was fake but if you go their twitter it's actually there lmao
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>>466054963

Incels are not on the spectrum
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Would you entrust your beloved rpg to these people? :)
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>>466055332
Fag pride in a nutshell desu
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>>466055197
>Unsafe
What
Fucking
Huh.
It's a video game, a SINGLE PLAYER video game
How fucking mentally ill do you need to be to feel "unsafe" while playing a video game?
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>>466055660
While I'm sure people like this do exist irl, everything in that image is 100% fake.
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>>466055197
>>466055410

Post a source, this is clearly fake
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>>466054075
>wooow i can't believe i am missing the shots this is the WORST*clap*GAME*clap*EVER
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>>466055332
>>466055410
>>466055660
its fake but not including nosferatu is absolute shit, and the game looks like shit. fuck seattle and fuck trannies.
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>>466053515
Look at that camera speed. Did the guy put the stick sensitivity to 0 or what?
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>>466055401
there were almost daily hype threads before yesterday
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>>466054141
just wait until the DLC's hit the store goiym
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>>466055437
>Would you entrust your beloved rpg to the lead writer of the first game
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Blacklight Retribution was one of my favorite shootans, the microtransaction hell was a shame though and made me quit.
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>>466053515
They should consider delaying the release.
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>>466055197
>the last thing we want is for players to FEEL UNSAFE IN A VIDEO GAME
based western devs
jap gook misogynist racist transphobic devs like fromsoft can fuck off
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>>466054075
How the fuck do you miss every single shot? Is this from the same tard that did that Doom gameplay a few years ago? I kinda feel bad for the devs if this is the only gameplay currently online.
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Yeah lost all hype seeing that it's Hardsuit Labs doing this game. Of all the studios out there to choose to make this rpg game they choose a studio with no experience in making non shooting games.
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>>466056287
He was probably stunned by how garbage the models and animations look, severely affecting his ability to aim.
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that backflip literally killed me

I'm so sad bros
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>>466054076
How?
Its not painted as a good thing
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>>466054075
You can play as a girl in CS:GO now?
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>>466053515
VAMPIRE 76
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>pre-alpha
>missing shots in a skill based game
It's Alpha Protocol all over again, and you fags love that game now. Just be patient.
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Not impressed by the gameplay shots but let's be honest here, polished gameplay is not what made VTMB good.
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>>466056287
it legitimately looks like the aiming mechanics are straight up broken, he definitely had the reticle over her for a few of those shots
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>>466053515
It's really hard to tell exactly how jank the combat is since it seems like he's playing on reviewer difficulty and the enemies literally can't even hit him
Otherwise it basically looks exactly how i expected it it gameplay wise, would almost be a shame if the melee/gunplay looked good
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>>466056287
Probably because the game is made by incompetent tards.
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>>466056670
Yeah but the dialogue was incredibly railroaded too with the questgivers so I have my fears with that as well
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>>466056618
>>466056670
The game doesn't even have Nosferatu. It's a flip of the IP for a quick buck.
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>>466053515
Did you really think paradox could makes games outside of grand strategy wargames? they cant, everything they do comes out feeling like a sluggish indie game
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ahh I see, the gunplay and melee are going to be so bad you WILL have to rely on your clan skills or try to solve the situation through dialogue
truly genius
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>>466053515
Good thing I don't have expectations because I heard of the franchise only recently. I guess this game's strengths will lie within the role playing aspect.
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>>466053515
Can somebody tell me if it's worth it to invest in Dominate 3 as Ventrue? I thought Full Dominate in dialogue meant I'm able to use 3 dots in dialogue despite having only 1 dot in it.

Also if I do get 3 dominate for ventrue dialogue is persuasion still worth it?
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Game looks rough, but still kinda better than I expected. Also, it's done no favors by the obvious fact it's being played with a controller. Ultimately, it will matter more on how good the RPG elements of it are than the actual combat.
Hard for me to give a shit, though. No Cain or Boyarsky. I'm looking forward to The Outer Worlds instead.
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>>466056759
I don't think he did actually, seems like the reticle kept bouncing around on either side of her head. The gunplay actually looked alright in the trailer, so I wanna see this same demo played by someone who isn't fighting the controls because I reckon there could be a world of difference.
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>>466057043
>I guess this games strengths will lie within the role playing aspect.
They cut out most of the clans.
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I hope people stop falling for the incredibly fake tweet soon.
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>>466054075
the character just chucks the gun away after it's out of ammo. Why can't we just store it in our inventory until we get more ammo
>>466056881
seriously waht's the point of not including at least all 7 original clans
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>>466057207
Like two of them.
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>>466056759
it's not about having the reticle over the target, haven't you played the first game? the guy has a Firearms skill of 1 or something so bullets don't directly hit where he aims, it's a cone around the reticle. The terrible console aim assist is what actually makes it look horrible, but if you have any brain cells you'll play on PC anyway.

It looks like horrible jank at this point but complaining about bullets not hitting the reticle is fucking stupid and you're making a fool out of yourself.

I bet he would have scored hits
if he aimed for center of mass with a mouse without aim assist. It's an RPG and combat works with morrowind logic
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>>466056106
>Blacklight
Was wondering if they were the ones who made that game, turns out it's their only game I've ever played, and it was pretty fun.
Microtransactions weren't even that bad, the starting weapon was sufficient and well balanced, only the rest of the equipment needed unlocking. Most of the stuff could be perma bought with in-game currency.
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>>466056759
my internet was fucking up so i basically watched the webm frame by frame
the person playing straight up misses every single one.
As soon as the reticle left the head, thats when they'd fire.
If anything it might be an indicator that they need to be more lenient on aim assist for console players
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>>466056832
Nigger what are you talking about there was like 8 fucking different way that quest could have endded. Unless your claiming that having to do the quest at all is railroading than you're just bullshitting
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>pc gameplay
>on a controller

Jesus christ, the game is already puke inducing on itself, no need to make it even worse.
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>>466054075
Reminds me of the first gun you obtain in the first game.. Honestly I think this is just about the target reticle not being accurate or the spread but either way this looks off
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>>466057219
>hoping people on /v/ won't take bait to deliberately trigger themselves
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>>466057346
Right, the game is just a quick IP flip and cash grab, and is cutting out role playing options from the first game.
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>>466053515
SJW game anyway.
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>>466053515
>npc just stands there shooting in extremely short bursts like a lifeless automaton
Are they even trying? What is it with western devs and the fact they can't make controls, AI, combat or fucking anything important for a game have any modicrum of quality?
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>>466057123
>Hard for me to give a shit, though. No Cain or Boyarsky. I'm looking forward to The Outer Worlds instead.
based
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>>466056287
Well that's what they get for ebin headshooty instead of center mass.
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>>466057495
I mean in the first bloodlines you had to deal with doing the quests of course but you could always say to the questgiver to suck it. To the point they would get mad and force you and show you that you were the last shit in town.
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>>466057349
>combat works with morrowind logic
dropped
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>>466053515
Looks like the original to me faggot.
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>>466053515
Jesus fucking christ, this is literally a showelware title.
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So they replaced good atmosphere and writing with trannies and virtue signalling. It was to be expected.
At least we still have good gameplay and...
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>>466056670
I think the long awaited sequel should be a better iteration even in the weak parts of the original.
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It looks okay
Are we all just doing a thing?
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>>466054963
Nothing taste better than a bunch of chemical food dyes.
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This REALLY needs to be fucking delayed.
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>>466057958
You could do that here to. The fourth option when she tells you what to do you can tell her to piss off. The ugly dude even makes fun of you f you're beign too aggreable
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>>466053515
Can't believe there are still some boot lickers here who actually defend this trash and the jews of Paradox. Have some fucking standards.
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>>466057958
that was mainly just lacroix using Dominate
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>>466058198
Where do you think we are?
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>>466058198
No, some of us just have standards and want the games we're interested in to actually be more than just functional.
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>>466058308
I don't think they're real vtmb fans desu, probably just paradox shills. They've always had a big presence on /v/
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>>466053515
>that headbobbing
MOTHERFUCKING DROPPED AND NO ONE RUNS LIKE THIS IN REAL LIFE YOU FUCKING DEV FAGGOTS
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>>466057207
>>466057346
What clans did they cut out?
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>>466058569
nosfuratu and gangrel
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>>466058442
>more than just functional
The original is barely even functional and everyone here seems to love it
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THE JANKY DANCING IS BACK, BOYS
GOAT
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>>466058210
Its as artificial and disgusting as the people it's made by and for. Probably filled with estrogen and AIDS too.
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>>466058308
This is the board filled with Smash threads and Twitter screenshots every day.
There are no standards
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>>466058624
Why would they do that?
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>>466055942
It's IGN, the cuphead tutorial is unbeatable people, playing on the easiest difficulty. He fucked up the backflip dodge like, 12 times and couldn't find the feed button. Of course he can't use two thumb sticks and plays it like he's panning a camera
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>hoping we would get MORE clans the original 7 in a sequel
>they actually cut them down to 5 because they're too lazy to even structure the gameplay for nosferatu
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Are we going to pretend that the original VtM wasn't buggy?
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>>466058569
Gangrel and Nosferatu, but they'll probably come eventually as free clan DLC
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>>466058673
The original had good roleplaying and cutting edge mocap during dialogue. This looks like shovelware, and is missing a bunch of clans.
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>>466058210
They taste like nothing, that's why they're food colorants.
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>>466053515
>>466054075
Have sex incels.
I already pre-ordered for me and my gf. We actually enjoy things unlike you losers that cry about trannies all day.
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It's exactly what I expected. It needs a bit of polish and it was never going to be a masterpiece. I only hate that you throw away your gun when it's out of shots now, in a game taking place in an open carry state
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>>466054075
PEOPLE ACTUALLY -PREORDERED THIS GARBAGE
OH NONONONONONONO
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>>466058730
They probably will add them later on.
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>>466058819
They have no excuse this time and it's not like the jankiness made VTMB better, it's nigh unplayable without a billion community fixes.
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>>466058730
Nosferatu requires them to actually have working stealth, they don't wanna be bothered with that right now
Gangrel - they probably didn't want to animate proteans
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>>466058950
They put up pre-orders the same day as the announcement. That should have been a huge red flag, if the shitty developer didn't make it obvious.
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>>466056287
LOOKS LIKE THTA CONTROLLER AUTOAIM IS BROKEN
DON'T BELIVE THEY USED KB+M
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>>466058819
>Sequel shouldnt be better than the original
Retard
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>>466054075
/thred.
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>>466058869
>The original had good roleplaying
And this one might too, the lead writer is the same and we've seen nothing that indicates that the roleplaying won't be as good.

>missing a bunch of clans
Yes because my enjoyment of the first game was entirely dependant on being able to choose between Gangrel and Brujah.

I want this game to be good and I'll at least wait for it to come out before deciding it's bad. You sound like you just want to be angry at video games.
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>>466054075
What the fuck is that animation
Thank god I don't fall for modern games
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>>466059118
>dusk golem
Wew. I kinda like his games.
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>>466054434
Stop supporting these type of people.
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>>466059181
>we've seen nothing that indicates that the roleplaying won't be good
There's only five clans you idiot. And the dialogue we've seen is putrid.
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>>466058624
>>466058569
Gangrel got 100% shafted in vtmb, now they're just cutting them out completely because they don't know how to work them into a city setting. And nosferatu are cut because fags can't handle stealth and trannies get triggered by having a clan that reminds them of the ugly monsters that they are.
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>>466058090
worried? I mean, I hope you didn't make that 90 EUR/$ preorder
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>>466055410
You are such a shitter.
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>>466053515
>PC
>gamepad
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>>466059181
>I want this game to be good
Well do I have some bad news for you
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>>466053515
Honestly, this looks worse than the original in pretty much every aspect. Yes, even combat. And it's not just down to the shit player.

I think I'm gonna give this a YIKES!
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>>466056084
and this cunt?
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>>466054434
>pre alpha
fuck developers, fuck games, fuck everything
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Is this the "Hate on VTMB2" thread?
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>>466053515
WTF i thought they said there wasn't gonna be any compass or quest markers like the original where you had to pay attention, read, think just a little and explore.
Nothing triggers me more than fucking quest markers. Fucking zoomer game design.
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>>466054075
Isn't that how it's supposed to work if you don't have points in firearms?
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>>466054434
Industry terms are weird. Beta means "pretty much locked in just need bug testing and we probably won't listen to QA anyway" while Alpha means "we might still change shit, don't get mad"
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>>466059723
Not having quest markers is transphobic
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>>466053515
I fucking told you it will be Ghostbuster remake of vidya. No amount of paid shills will save this.
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>>466059723
>2019
>journophobic design
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>>466057984
t.spastic
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>ITS SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT!
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>>466059729
You should hit what you fucking aim at.
Gun skill should determine your damage, not artificially fuck up your aim.
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>>466059975
Dumb animeposter.
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>>466059376
>There's only five clans you idiot
Like I said, I don't need to be able to pick between Gangrel and Brujah to enjoy the roleplaying and while I'd like to see playable Nosferatu they require a bunch of extra work for a single clan with a different playstyle and I can see them wanting to focus on the "normal" side of the game instead of just throwing some empty sewers under the map and calling it a day.

>And the dialogue we've seen is putrid.
Is it? I've only seen the demo video from E3 but both the quest giver in the club and the Nosferatu in the sewer seemed to have fine enough dialog. Maybe not as memorable or charismatic as Mercurio and Jeanette but far from "putrid" and we still don't know what exactly their roles are in the game. Not every NPC in the original was as fun to talk to as Jeanette either.
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>>466059975
This is by far the dumbest argument I read in these threads. They have to be shills. No one is this stupid, right?
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why do you guys shitpost about the game looking like shit?
as long as it has good mod support tools, hot vampire chicks and a decent story line the rest is irrelevant
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>>466060046
But that makes no sense, why would a person's skill with guns affect how much damage the bullet makes? That depends on the gun.

I'm trying to remember the rules from the pnp, wasn't that how it worked, with your skill affecting your chance to hit?
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>>466059376
>There's only five clans
For now.
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>>466060082
Fuck off paid shill
Game looks like shit, is cutting a bunch of content and corners.
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>>466060046
that's not how it works dumbass
if anything gun skill affecting your aim instead of damage than otherwise
fucking 70iq american
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>>466054075
>People haven't played Deus Ex or System Shock are complaining about this
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>>466060228
This is /v/ you dumb newfag. You should have already known how it works.
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>>466060331
that and all I remember from the pnp is that you either put 5 points in guns or nothing, as guns were not that useful against most of the encounters in the game unless you had silver bullets and shit
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>>466053515
Lookds fine though if you disregard journo-playstyle
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>>466060420
Deus Ex or System Shock have great RPG elements and level design. This doesn't.
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Cya guys in the daily VTMB thread tomorrow lads
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>>466060558
>System Shock 2
ftfy, the original SS doesn't have that much of rpg mechanics
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>>466060382
>>466060331
Where your crosshair is, that is where the bullet should go. If you can't even fucking manage that, don't even have a gun skill at all. If you make an FPS where the gunplay is central, don't fuck it up with such absolutely retarded nonsense.
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>>466054075
It would be ok if it had a shrinking reticle desu sempai
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>>466060549
>looks fine
lel
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>>466060367
Great post

Keep hating video games for the sake of /v/ memes if you want, I've enjoyed the original enough that I'll at least pirate this to give it a fair try
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>>466055197
this is fake, right?
its impossible for this to be real
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>>466053515
I knew this was going to be bad, but, fuck, is way worse than I was expecting, from the music, to the dialog, the interactions, the combat, and people are still defending this piece of shit.
>Nightclub music is not ghoultown, chiasm, nor anything from Succubus Club
>Compass and skyrim tier dungeons
>Dialog somehow is more childish than the VTMB NPC banters
>"PRESS A FOR AWESOME" movement
>Melee combat is far cry tier takedowns when you have games like Zeno Clash and Condemned as standard
>Melee and range weapons are temporary
>Nothing about inventory and equipment system
>Facial expression is somehow worse than Ubishit games and worse than fucking VTMB
>Voices aren't on par with VTMB
To be honest, I feel better, I was hoping for a AAA cashgrab tier, but, no, this is a shit designed game made by who and published by one of the most greedy companies in the industry.

Something to clear the mind:
https://debofnight.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vympzV240mM
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>>466060735
>this is your brain on halo
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>>466060981
yeah it's fake, doesn't stop retards from posting it in every thread and idiots believing it
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>>466060735
>Where your crosshair is, that is where the bullet should go
that's not true even for action FPS, it depends on the accuracy of the gun, unless you are playing FPS on a console, since those have light auto-aim for controller use

Not to mention this is an RPG, so
>gunplay is central
That depends on your character and how you build it, if you want gunplay to be central then put points into firearms use and you won't miss, but someone with a melee build can't have the same accuracy as you with a ranged one
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>>466055437
>>466056084
He is not the same person from 15 years ago, people change.
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See you all in in March 2020 when the game is ready friends.

You know...in 9 MONTHS from now.
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>>466061197
He's standing like two feet away m8 and aiming the entire time at her head. Even if only by "accident" he should've hit at least once.
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>>466054075
NOTICE how the enemy woman is floating above the ground.
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>>466061471
9 months isn't long enough to fix this turd, and these developers suck and couldn't fix it anyway.
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>>466061471
This means we can go back to chill vtmb threads ? No more Paradox shills ?
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>>466061624
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA holy fuck I can't unsee it
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>>466055197
How do you even become Nosferatu in the first game anyway, Alcohol may hide your sire's appearance, but Nosferatu is infamously stinky.
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>>466061471
>B-BUT IT'S A BETAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!11

Ah, classic.
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>>466061868
Nosferatu can cast illusions.
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>>466061197
>that's not true for action FPS
Yes it is, what the fuck are you talking about? Even Alpha Protocol 2 had a crosshair that would land hit ls so long as your target was wholely within the reiticle, FPS's have the crosshair expand to show if you're inaccurate or not. Fucking Deus Ex did this, are you really saying a two decade old game has better gameplay mechanics but that's fine?
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>>466061550
I suppose he's missing all his rolls, this being an rpg there is going to be weird shit like that, like how in DND it's actually harder to hit things close to you with a ranged weapon if you don't have the point-blank shot talent

But the animations are still bad, maybe they should make so it shows that the person shooting doesn't have any skill with guns, and only know how to properly hold one after spending enough points on the skill
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>comfy BG music is practically nonexistent
>that music in the club
>lands on a burning barrel and no burn damage or rotschrek
>nobody cares if you just spiderman up a building in plain sight or fall from a third floor
>those tripping animations look like ass

And as many have said, the combat looks weightless. Maybe I've been spoiled by Dark Messiah but I know first person melee combat can be so much better. Worst part is those static as fuck facial animations compared to the original's expressive faces. Club dancing looks good tho.
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>>466054075
WHY DON'T HEADSHOTS KILL POWDER GANG BANDITS!? WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT UNREALISTIC GARBAGE GAME?? I'M GOING BACK TO CALL OF DUTY.
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>>466061984
Obfuscate can't do that.
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Not sure what people expected. The developer Hardsuit Labs has a history of producing mediocre shit.
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>>466062203
We know anon. You said that in the previous thread as well.
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>>466062075
No, but I think you didn't get what I meant? In any military FPS getting closer to a wall and shooting it clearly shows that the bullets don't always go on the exact point your crosshair has, it depends a lot on how the gun behaves and how accurate that particular gun is

There's a large variety of guns and they all behave differently, god, even in shit like CS you need spray control for example
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>>466061974
If you're so hellbent to hate it and shit on it, be my guest.
I only stated a fact.
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>>466055197
>hideous monster
>needs to stay out of sight
>needs to stay away from the public
This is the most accurate characterization of a trans woman I've ever read.
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>>466053515
This thread is slow compared to past threads, I wonder why.
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>>466054075
> you can't shoot women in the game
what did they mean by that?
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>>466062305
Mask of a thousand faces, is part of the obfuscate discipline, wasn't implemented on VTMB.
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>>466062203
>comfy bg music
this is easilly fixed.
>music in the club
easily fixed
>lands on burning barrel
easily fixed.
>nobody cares if you just spiderman up a building
nobody gave a fuck if you talked to humans as a nosferatu in the first one.
the only thing that will require more work are the animations, thats it.
the rest can be fixed easily by them or by modders, and this time they are adding mod support.
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Why can't reboots, remakes and sequels to dead franchises ever be fucking good.
Someone already made the perfect product for you to work with, how do you fuck that up?
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>>466062349
Yeah, it just 404'd quickly. Now that I found out they're also cutting gangrel and nossie what little interest I had in this project is gone. Looks like a bad copy of Human Revolution.

Another thing I wanted answered, was Vampyr any good? Or should I try Requiem for my bloodsucker dose? Roll 20's being ass and it's nigh-impossible to convince real people to try tabletop RPGs in this shithole town.
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Anyone have the webm of the awkward dance at least?
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>>466054075
>have lock on
>still can't hit
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It is almost like /v/ doesn't know what pre-alpha means and believes the devs will just stop working on it till release.
The animation needs work as well as the audio, and the combat, but they told us like 3 weeks ago that they are still working on combat and that it isn't where they wanted to be. Release might get delayed but that might be even better because of Cyberpunk.
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>>466062993
Mod is not a magical bullet.
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>>466062482
I'm not hellbent on hating it. Actually the opposite. But you know what else are facts? That everything in that video looks like dogshit, that the publisher is one of the biggest jews in the industry and that Hardsuit Labs are utterly incompetent.
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>>466054075
Let's be serious for a second.
Is this the fault of the game devs, or the fault of IGN?
Seriously need to know which one needs to hang.
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>>466063309
Have you seen the entire demo?
A fucking ape could play better.
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>>466063246
Tbh I hope it doesn't get delayed and absolutely gets murdered by cyberpunk (which I'm not even interested in). It would fuck up Paradox nicely.
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>>466063246
>2012+
>Thinking pre-alpha means pre-alpha
Let me tell you what pre alpha means, pre alpha means, no texture, no sound, just gameplay features being constantly tested and implemented, when a studio says, "pre-alpha", it means, late-beta, close to gold, because they know their work is shit, and they know is going to be released like that.
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>>466063016
Because you're not only trying to live up to a potential, to something that people hold in high regard and with a strong dose of nostalgia goggles as well, but also adapt it to the current time (with whatever complications that might bring), as well as surpass it in quality overall .

That's not an easy task.
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>>466063309
>>466063515

This was a true game "journalist" at work.
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>>466063246
>8 months from release
>pre-alpha

It's almost like you don't know what that means. It's okay though, neither do the devs, shill-kun.
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>>466063256
it in when it comes to gameplay, graphics and soundtracks
just look at the stuff you can do with skyrim.
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>>466063309
In this case, obviously the game.
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8 months is a long time in the Dev world especially when they start putting in that insane over time, we know this.... The bashing is warrented though that's how devs listen and fix things but I'm under the impression that this particular Dev will have the shooting and melee feeling just right when the game is released. I'm still hype for this game and I shill for free pussy!
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>>466063826
Combat still shit, animation still shit, quest system and open world still shit, mod is not going to fix the shit parts of the base game, no matter how hard you try, Skyrim will never have a good melee combat, same goes for VTMB2, that combat is fucked beyond repair, and the animation system is fucked.
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>>466063309
The game is still pretty fucking janky but it doesn't help that the person playing is either shit or not used to playing with a controller.
I'd probably play just a badly if I was handle a controller.
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I don't understand why they don't just copy paste the melee combat from Mount and Blade. It's probably the best first person melee combat.
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>>466063561
That is a very stupid thing to desire
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>>466064084
Those are already defined features, depending on how they implement it, they won't be able to fix it before the release date.
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>>466064373
yes, thats why they only need to focus on the animations. the rest can be fixed by modders.
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>>466064084
>improve combat especially melee
>improve facial animations
>we only saw the beginning area and probably the first quest you get so nobody has an idea how much there is to actually fix, finish and polish
they have a lot to do over the next 8 months
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>>466064084
I too believe in the magical powers of shilling. They will fix animations, VAs, AI, framerate, music, UI, combat and bugs in the remaining time. Basically the entire game.
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>>466063246
>pre-alpha
It's coming out in less than a year. Good luck, shill.
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>>466064662
Nah, the game is trash right now and its clearly because Paradox is just shitting this out for a quick buck. They launched preorders as soon as they could, made like 3 editions to get even more money, gave the game to an incompetent dev, and cut out 2 of the original clans and we're now seeing the result. This can't be fixed in 8 months.

Paradox deserves to get fucked in the ass.
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>>466053515
Can someone explain to me thinbloods?

If a thinblood diablerizes another thinblood does he get more powerful? What about normal vampires? Will they get anything from them?
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WHO SIGNED OFF ON THAT MOTHER FUCKING GARBAGE SHIT CLUB MUSIC???
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>>466064801
On each of these things there are separate people working on them. It's not like there is one guy sitting and making facial animations, and when he is finished working on some wall textures. So it literally doesn't matter if animations still take another 8 months (it matters for the next project where you might need people already).
This is not an indie shop.
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>>466065045
It's pretty silly to hope for a much awaited for sequel to suck simply to spite the publisher. Regardless of business practice gripes. They're not gonna go bankrupt from it so waht would even be the point
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>>466065137
In pre-V5 they were borderline ghouls. I have no clue how they work in V5 though.
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>>466065610
>This is not an indie shop.
No its even worse, because at least an indie shop may have potential. Hardsuit is just a turd factory. And given how much dev time they've had, and how the game looks 8 months before release, we can be certain of 3 things: they are lazy, they are incompetent, and they are disorganized
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>>466065137
Thinbloods are now very powerful "clanless" vampires who get all the strengths of vampires but no clan curse.
They have special abilities only they can use.
Once they eat a real vampire they become a member of that clan, curse and all.
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>>466065637
It already sucks, and unless they reboot the whole project with a new developer it'll still suck even with an extra year of dev time. The devs are garbage and have been for their entire careers.
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>>466065137
Vampires come in generations. The first vampire is Caine, so he's generation 1. The people he made into vampires are generation 2. The people they made into vampires are generation 3, and so on. The higher your generation gets the weaker your vampirism is. Thinbloods are really high generation (like 14/15) so they're barely vampires at all. They can barely use vampire powers, but the weaknesses are barely there either. Lower generation vampires think they're shit for a variety of reasons.
If you diablerise a vampire of the same generation you don't get anything out of it. If you diablerise someone lower generation then you get stronger. Thinbloods could lower their generation like that and stop being a thin blood, or medium generation vampires could diablerise someone low and get a boost there. Basically as long as the victim is lower generation you get a boost. Or maybe they're too strong for you and they fuck you over and steal your body. You can't always win.
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>>466065637
You know what else is silly? For a much awaited sequel to suck harder than the original from 15 years ago. Paradox can get fucked.
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>>466065137
I might be wrong so feel free to correct me but:

Vampires have 'generations', where the higher your generation, the more diluted your blood is. Cain was the first vampire and is first generation, and from there you had the second and third generations which are extremely powerful and known in vampire legend. Whenever a vampire sires their own vampire, that vampire is one generation higher than them.

Thinbloods are generally 14th or 15th generation vampires and pretty weak, and diablerizing only increases your power if you diablerize someone of a lower generation than you. So a thinblood could diablerize another thinblood, but it wouldn't do shit if they were the same generation, and frankly you're only getting a tiny bit more powerful if you diablerize someone a single generation lower than you.

I'm pretty sure a core aspect of the first game's story was the Prince of LA wanting to acquire the body of a third generation vampire so that he could diablerize them and become one of the most powerful vampires in the world.
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>>466066252
>the more dilated your hole is
ftfy
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>>466065956

I agree that the time they have left seems rather short, and I hope they delay if they need too. For example Vampyre looked more polished 2 years before release.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTExU8XsvOw
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>>466053515
they really need to tighten up the graphics on level 3
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>>466065813
>>466066103
>>466066252
Ok but how does the thinblood in the demo video get thaumaturgy and potence at the same time?
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>>466066103
do thinbloods even have powers in the tabletop? because I don't remember anything like that
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>>466066512
oh wait looking at the comments the people are complaining about animations and combat as well kek
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>>466066809
>>466066830
They get any powers they want.
Only once/if they choose a clan do they have to get specific ones.
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>>466065375
It will probably be replaced with real licensed music at launch, this sort of stuff is common, the song sounds like it was made by an inhouse team for demo purposes like many other games have done in the past.
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>>466064801

so the nossies do care for slugg, awwww.
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>>466064687
Incorrect, good sir.
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>>466066103
>>466066179
>>466066252
Are there any prominent/famous/powerful Thinbloods? and do Thinbloods have their own sect/faction?
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>>466065375
>>466067137

the music is 100% a placeholder
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>>466066809
I think that was just a devkit thing for the demo. There isn't a class that gives you both of those abilities.
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>>466066929
>They get any powers they want.
I mean logically thinblood alchemy can make whatever skills they want but I don't think they can be stronger/better than the clan ones, that makes no sense
otherwise every clan would be trying to make armies of thin bloods since they are stronger and more flexible than proper fledglings
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>>466067245
Dunno about your first question but while thinbloods don't really have a faction, they sometimes stick together since they're outcasts in both the human and vampire world. In the first game you come across a few thinbloods chilling on the beach and they seem to have formed their own little group.
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Implying the first VTMB wasn't a shitty unplayable mess
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>>466053515
Everything looks good except for the combat/ai/animation. Absolutely shit tier game pad gameplay and I assume retard tier difficulty because E3. Must be fine on pc with proper difficulty balance but still what a terrible first demo. I can't believe they're still fucking up marketing this badly in the current year. Outer worlds also had a completely retarded first gameplay demo. Say what you will about cyberpunk but at least they did their demo fairly right.
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>>466057207
>2 out of 7
>most
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>>466067980
Music is dog shit.
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>>466067976
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SHIT!!1

Everything makes sense now.
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>>466068520
Shitty games have soul, good games don't.
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>>466068650
Then why is this shitty and has no soul?
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it's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_PWk-Wg_O4
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Game looks fucking awful and the dialogue looks like shit, and cutting clans down to just 5 is piss poor
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>>466069364
I can't believe i'll say this but I like Outstar. She's level-headed and she gives sensible opinions. I do hope she gets more recognition desu
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>>466069364
outstar is a slut
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>>466058930
dilate
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>>466054075
rudi is in so its a day 1 buy
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>>466069762
based.
>>466069795
cringe
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>>466069762
she has more than enough.
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About to start up the first game, what clan should I be? I’ve heard Malkavians are cool but also that the dialogue choices can be a bit hard to figure out.
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>>466069945
WOW BASED HOLY CRAP THIS ETHOT PARROTED OUR MEME HOLY SHIT GUYS
SHE'S PRACTICALLY OUR FRIEND NOW!
literally shaking rn guys I can't believe we're really friends with an internet celebrity!
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>>466053515
>start watching video
Wait, is this VTMB the remake or Bloodlines 2?
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>>466070080
partake in fornication
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>>466070203
I'm saving myself for marriage to my best friend Outstar tyvm
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...... fuck straight white gamers
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>>466069762
On one hand i agree, on the other it's easy to sound level-headed when you lurk places like /v/ and everyone gets mad like a hat for any little bulshit.
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Combat looks bad relative to other games, looks much better than the original
Feed animation/sound effect is over the top
Normal human enemies barely sound surprised as they realize they and their friends are being murdered by a literal monster
An underground drug ring being 60-70% comprised of women is retarded, especially when you can make actual stronk female characters in this universe.

Some of the dialogue options were just straight up nonsensical, without even considering the quality of the writing itself. For instance
"[Coercion] I'm a vampire. I'll rip your fucking throat out!" How is this supposed to intimidate a hardened criminal into standing down? Even if thin bloods (who seem to OP in the first place) are starting to spread, it's unlikely that these drugs dealers have ever dealt with one who ever knew what the fuck they were doing, or else they'd already be dead or they never knew in the first place. This option would honestly be better if it was [GLASS HIM] instead of coercion. Take the initiative and start the fight by blood boiling one of his buddies to horrify the rest of them. Not this "I'M THE FUCKING LIZARD KING BITCH" shit writing.

Honestly, the game looks like it's lacking the soul of the first. The first game is janky as hell, with terrible gameplay, but the writing, the atmosphere and even the facial animations make it an amazing experience. This is some diablerized monstrosity if they don't fix these things.
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posting tweets without permalinking should be a bannable offense
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>>466055825
>missing
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>>466059519
she's the kind of people that work for white wolf methinks
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>>466070029
Toreador are the strongest ranged build, gangrel are the strongest melee, malkavian is schizo and nosferatu are uggos.
The rest are kinda filler.
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>>466070029
Tremere's Thaumaturgy is horribly FUN!
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I don't care about this game but I hope it succeeds so /pol/niggers seethe

Same for Outer Worlds
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>>466070686
Shit opinion kys
>OFFICIAL /v/ POWER RANKING:
Tremere = Malks >Ventrue>Nosferatu>Gangrel>>>>>>Chocula>>>>>>>Toreador>>>>>>>>>>>POWER GAP>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>br*jah
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>>466053515
Give me Damsel wife! I have NOT played this game BUT it DOES have wife! Give me communist wife!
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>>466070902
>Same for Outer Worlds
Cain and Boyarsky are based and I wish them the best. Even if OW ends up sucking, I love those guys for what they did to the RPG genre in the 90s and early 00s.
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>>466070902
i hope they both succeed and are fun because I want to play them. The seething is the cherry on the top.
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>>466071006
valerieposter would not pick such a shit tier waifu, reconsider your actions and rethink your life.
I won't have their good name slandered!
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>>466071006
Play this game anon. You can even get Damsel to not hate you. There is multiple great waifus in this game.
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How big is the dev team?
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>>466056767
Cope harder.
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>>466053515
Looks like AA garbage
AAA is soulless but at least those games are usually functional, this shit is scuffed on every level
I cannot believe people were so hyped for this trash to the point of preordering before even seeing gameplay
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>>466071367
>There is multiple great waifus in this game.
This is a lie!
There are only soulless thots that you can't even romance!
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>>466055197
>He hasn't seen the new red yellow card rules for vampire groups
Run friend and never look back
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>>466070921
In the tabletop? In the game ranged weapons are extremely OP by late game and toreadors get the most bonuses with them. Fag Tremere magic isn't as good as a flamethrower.
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>>466071367
I want AGGRESSIVE wife anons! I love ALL wife BUT aggressive wife IS good!
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>>466071367
Damsel was always your tsundere waifu if you weren't some Lacroix bootlicker
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>>466071123
Did you see the interview with Boyarsky? I want to try the game now just because of the things he said, his vision for the game sounds similar to what he tried to do with Arcanum, making the player discover the world and how it works with emphasis on exploration and playing however you want. It might be really good, otherwise if even Cainarsky can't smack those Obsidianiggers into shape then they are truly hopeless.
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>>466053515
This is fucking pitiful. Good thing I never pre-order.
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>>466071413
Judging by the office pics they post there's probably around 40 people on the core team.
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>>466071705
But Damsel isn't REALLY aggressive anon!
She's all bark and no bite whatsoever! She even doubts her own belief system, she's a weak and naive character that has no respect for law and tradition!
Velvet is the superior waifu!
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>CP2077 described as a mix between VTMB and Deus Ex by the devs
>coming out within a month from VTMB2
>stealing the show while VTMB2 is looking kinda meh
It's the curse all over again.
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Can someone tell me if there are 4-5 dot Dominate dialogue options? If not then I won't bother investing in 4/5 Dominate as a Ventruevian. Possession sounds nice though
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>>466071738
>tsundere Damsel
I'm diamonds
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>>466072083
She DOES sound perfect she DOES sound cute! Damsel IS cute! (She is! She is!)
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>>466055660
i play horror videogames in darkroom at night
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>>466072243
Not 100% sure but iirc you only need up to 3 for dialogue
Mass Suicide is super fun though!
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>Pre-Alpha
>people still sperging
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Just a quick reminder:
>Condemned: Criminal origins came out 14 years ago
>Dark Messiah of Might and Magic came out 13 years ago
>Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay came out 15 years ago

Now, why the everliving fuck does the melee look like that in vtmb2?
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>>466069945
>>466069364
She is a corporate bootlicker, she know VTMB2 is bad, but, because she wants to get invited to private parties, "they don't look so bad".
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>>466072463
You're fucking insane, anon! Don't tell me you wear headphones and turn up the volume as well.
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>>466072343
She is the OPPOSITE of cute she IS a brainless commie that doesn't even believe IN her own people! (She is! She is!)
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>>466072528
Here
>>466063574
>>466063736
>>466064954
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>>466072518
Also my Nosferatu is nearing the endgame but I haven't interacted w/ the driver since I use the sewers does that mean I'll never get that last ride dialogue w/ him (the one where i pick sides dialogues)?
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>>466072540
condemned and butcher's bay were really fun games
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Don't worry, this shit will get delayed to avoid being BTFO by the utter open world trash that is Cybercuck 2077
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>>466072540
>Forgetting about Zeno Clash
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>>466069364
Damn, she has great taste on headphones!
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>>466072821
Yeah, say what you will about Bloodlines 2, at least it didn't fall for the open world meme.
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>Good looking women
>Literally no non whites anywhere
>Early gameplay
>Waah waah
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>>466072659
We CAN disagree BUT stay friends OTHER Valerie anon! (We can! We can!)
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>>466072463
>>466072654

the madman
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>*is still the best vampire game in recent years*
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>>466072793
He still picks you up at the same time he picks up other clans once Santa Monica goes to shit, its mentioned that he's a friend of Jack's which is the explanation for him not freaking the fuck out. Other than him being Caine which obviously you shouldn't know yet unless you're a Malk
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>>466072540
to be fair all of those games focus on the action/combat gameplay
all vampire games try to balance the combat with social and sometimes stealth elements (and fail 80% of the time, I fucking wish you could do a literal VN style play through if you were clever about social elements)
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>>466073052
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=odIOT7DMaTc
Downgraded af
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how are trash devs like this able to keep jobs?
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>>466073017
Based Gary posted. Godspeed, boss.
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>>466072970
ONLY if you agree that TREMERE are objectively the cutest clan! (They are! They are!)
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https://youtu.be/bM3xf87CbIQ?t=130

>games will never capture this feeling
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>>466055825
>>466056287
>>466063201
>>466063309
cope
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>>466073309
>reason to always play a melee build #2063
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>>466073243
They definitely look better than in VtMB1
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>>466073052
>story becomes so nonsensical that even your fanbase turns on you
>combat is a chore
>"optimal" playthrough with "good" ending requires you to avoid killing and combat as much as possible, though combat is one of the main attractions of the game
why is it so hard to make a good vampire game
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This game has no open world shit and no sun. It's gonna be better than Cyberpunk 2077. Prove me wrong.
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>>466073243
I want Malkavian BUT Tremere ARE good! You ARE a GOOD anon!
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>>466072573
VTMB is her favourite game ever and she is very hopeful. She is a also gamedev (for CDR and others) so she sees the footage very different from 99.9% of users of /v/.
That said yes she would also be more diplomatic, because she wouldn't want to burn bridges.
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>>466073150
>before
>Chad
>after
>Jew-ified
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>>466073565
I have zero respect for corporate bootlickers.
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>>466073519
Malkavians are very cute too, excellent taste!
Everyone wants a quirky masquerade gf!
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>compass
>quest markers
>assassins creed vision to highlight where to go
I really hope these were just there for the demo and you can play without them
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>>466073309
None of the guns did any damage so I guess they forgot to add that in despite there being so many people shooting at you in the demo.
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>>466073874
Good for Carna for standing up for what she believes in!
What a cute Tremere!
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Is this the same autistic guy who tried to meme DMC V into being a flop?
The thread just has a totally inorganic vibe to it, he's literally replying to everyone who replies to him.
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>>466073731
I'm just saying "bootlicker" is too harsh of a word in her case.
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>>466074064
demos always use god mode
that girl they had at E3 showing off DOOM got hit so many fucking times but never took any damage either
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>disgusting FOV and sensitivity
>millions of bugs and glitches
what was the point of this demo?
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>>466074149
the dude obsessing over trannies and spamming fake tweets or someone else
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>>466053515
I fucking told you guys just from seeing the short clan clips.
The gameplay looks like Bioshock/Bioshock Infinite tier, which is crappy already. The melee looks like Condemned but worse.
Also the female enemies... unrealistic but at least we'll get to beat up women. But yea no blood after being smacked in the fucking face with a pipe. Unless they're vampires or something but if they're humans that's just weird.
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Camarilla, Camarilla over everything
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>>466074013
>quest markers

I would prefer that they are not in the game or if, that you can turn them off and the game isn't designed around them. They are very much against the design philosophy of Bloodlines.
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>>466074221
The player still takes damage from melee hits though but for some fucking reason not jumping directly into a barrel of fire. I think they also shoot some enemies and that girl in the face but it still doesn't hurt them.
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>>466074485
>dude wtf that pipe didn't even break her nose where the fuck is my ultra-realistic women beating simulator??
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>>466053515
>developer only known for shitty games
>publisher known for shitting out unfinished games.

holy shit...I should have known that they couldn't pull it off.
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>>466074149
You can't blame barry the turd gargler for everything anon, this game legitimately looks like shit. DMC5 looked pretty much finished when it was revealed too. Not this pre-alpha garbage. The difference between good and shit devs is as big as the Pacific.
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>>466054075
FUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK
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>>466073089
What do Malkavian insight say about the driver? I mean the exact line?
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>90% of the thugs are women
>runs up stairs
>girl facing wall and shooting at it
>kill her and run to the other girl
>she has a male voice

What a shitshow. Rest doesn't look much better.
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>>466073176
By taking advantage of dumb consumers who will buy shit
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>>466074701
Hey man, the game is the one that made beating women a thing. I'm just asking for realistic combat and physics.
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>>466074940
>"""pre-alpha"""
lel, this is pretty much finished as well.
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>>466069364
Lmao that fucking IGN journalist again...
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>>466074149
I guess we will have to give time to the threads so the shitposters melt away along with their interest, only then we weill be able to have an honest chat about the gameplay. Probably untill then we will see more.
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>>466074163
Corporate cumguzzler, then.
This game is shit and the devs are trash and there's no defending it.
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>>466069364
I like her except for that comment she made about white V.
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>>466064410
>>466057123
Agreed, you can really see that whoever is playing isn't used to playing first-person games using controller.
This is still janky as fuck(my favourite part is when player tries to pick up keys from the table, but ends up picking up gun from the other side), but it doesn't look as terrible as some people in thread are acting.
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>>466060735
Posts like this is why we have “”””RPGs”””” like Skyrim now.
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>>466074979
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb8300NUpUE
They don't explicitly call him out but they start to panic as soon as they realize who it is.
The biggest hint is probably
>I'll drive... if you figure out where you want to be taken, tell me.
>But you've made that mistake before.
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>>466053515
Melee seems unsatisfying, especially how the enemies seem to "reset" for the next hit sometimes. I know it's still around 9 months away from release but I don't know how much will really change in that time.
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>>466053515
They're remaking the demo
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>>466074979
https://youtu.be/gb8300NUpUE
>you've made that mistake before
Refers to when he let the 2nd Gen and Antediluvians do whatever and his childer ended up getting killed and the city burning to the ground.
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>>466075843
that sounds desperate
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>>466074163
It's a conflict of interests, I can't take her opinion serious because she is more interested in the network she made in the last event, I'm not saying that she must rip the game a new one, but she can't simply ignore the voice acting, the animation, the writing and the gameplay decision when it's called Bloodlines 2.
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>>466075843
Hopefully new demo will be played on KBM.
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>>466075669
>but you've made that mistake before
what does that mean? what mistake did he do?

>coated in the blood of the ninth one
what did he mean by this?
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>>466075843
>we were all tired
I'm sure the game was also tired.
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>>466076110
>"We're gonna release an official and competent playthrough on our channels to properly show off the mechanics since the one you saw did a bad job of it"
>Woah haha they're desperate
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>>466073243
>MAGIC NIGGAS also get qt goth slut with septum piercing
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Is outstar's VtM Redemption LP any good?
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>>466076434
>what does that mean? what mistake did he do?
see >>466075879

>coated in the blood of the ninth one
>what did he mean by this?
LaCroix told everyone that you killed Nines
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>>466075843
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b6qH48bslA
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>>466076601
no just play it yourself
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>Game's not coming out for nearly a year
>Video literally says "Pre-Alpha Build" in the corner
>"AHAHAHAHAH this game looks so rough, VTMBfags on suicide watch LOL!"

For crying out loud, /v/. This is just sad.
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>>466076434
He sire two kings, and decide to hang out in a cave and forgot about life, the two kings sire some fucked up people, everything went to hell after that.
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>>466076601
yes you can se she actually enjoys it

>>466076650
o im dumb nevermind lol. but the comments in the video said White Wolf said that cab driver is just a Malkavian posing as Caine? is this canon?
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>>466076581
Take the thaumaturgypill anon, once you go Tremere you never go back!
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>>466075879
>>466076434
Goddamn Malkavian insight.
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>>466076758
I already replayed it this year.
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>>466077010
WW autism can suck a dick, cab driver was Cain.
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>>466076894
>b-but it’s only Pre-Alpha1!!!1!
>like devs don’t hide behind that bullshit all the fucking time
Consider suicide, shill
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>>466077010
>cab driver is just a Malkavian posing as Caine? is this canon?
his audio files were listed as CAINE and another Malk would probably see through his bullshit like they saw through Jeanette's.
Rosa also freaks out about "The Dark Father" behind "him" referring to the ending when he's with Jack
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>Player jumps off a three story building and lands on a busy street, while nobody bats an eye
>Slugg and one other enemy left, who is standing on a small ledge shooting at player
>Player dashes to them obviously trying to use the wall scale ability
>Can't because it's probably janky as fuck and only works on the "right" walls
>Runs back to Slugg and beats him until cutscene automatically triggers and enemy is just gone
>When confronted with a seemingly invincible, blood sucking monster, emotionless human enemies just go "Oh shit" like they just realized they left the oven on
>Rick Schaffer is not a drug addicted ex-con anymore
>Lifeless facial animations
Wake the fuck up, neonate.
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>female body
>male voice
Ewww
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>>466077010
They were so butthurt that Caine was in the game they had to write a book saying that it was just a Malkavian posing as Caine. VTMB has its own Canon that it follows that is just really close with the sourcebooks.
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Just started playing the first one as a Tremere guy because blood magic sounds cool. Wish me luck fellas
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>>466076894
>he thinks a year (9 months actually) is enough time for a game of this scope to go from pre alpha to gold

AHHHHH HAHAHAHAHA. never worked on a game I see
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>>466077415
cast Blood Shield for easy modo.
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>>466077097
then why on earth would you have the desire to watch someone else play it instead
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>>466077010
>but the comments in the video said White Wolf said that cab driver is just a Malkavian posing as Caine? is this canon?
Technically, yes, and they said that because they wanted Caine to be somewhere else at the time. But I think most people find that retcon stupid and view it as a separate storyline. The cab driver was always supposed to be Caine according to the actual devs, even if WW wanted to be fags and change it later.
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>>466053515
"I never played the first one but pretend to love it after seeing a review from my favorite e-celeb, this doesn't look like my AAA games, it's shit"
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it's a console game, is all that I can say. Just like NuDoom doesn't resemble the first three games because it's designed for a different platform, this game looks more like Dishonored than like VtMB. And as we know, console games are intrinsically worse than PC games and the main cause of the downslope in video game quality and the creative decline of the industry since the early 00s.
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>>466077294
Cool hearing the unused downtown theme at Pioneer Square though
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>>466077415
based and Tremerepilled!
Don't forget to put points into seduction for UNLIMITED MAGIC
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>>466075520
Whoever is playing has no impact on the shit AI, animations and so on. This is a dumb argument to have.
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>>466053515
Did they literally show us that you can kill trannies in this game?
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>>466077169
>>466077289
>>466077410
wth that some serious pettiness..

either way do you think we'll meet Caine again in this one? I do hope we're not perma stuck in Seattle tho.. like we could go on an airplane and the pilot would be Caine and he'd take us to Russia or somewhere tropical etc.
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>>466077294
>>When confronted with a seemingly invincible, blood sucking monster, emotionless human enemies just go "Oh shit" like they just realized they left the oven on
why does this keep getting brought up like humans in the first game didn't openly work alongside sabbat gangrel and just go "HEY, STOP, MAN!" and ran at you with a tire iron when they saw a literal vampire hurling magic around
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>>466077734
nice deflection
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At first I didn't mind the webm with the dude missing all the shots because hey, gun skill, right?
But then I realized
>shitty atmosphere
>shitty bgm
>shitty dialogue
>masquerade pretty much non-existant
Kinda sad to see such a shitty sequel to VTMB but I honestly expected nothing more of Paradox. They have day-one DLC with VTMB stuff so they make cash on the nostalgia, this is just a quick project for cash they give 0 fucks about.
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>>466076894
See >>466072713

Try again in a few minutes, shill-kun.
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>>466077915
I hope you’re fucking joking
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>>466077781
The only way they can save this game's OST is if they use the unused music from the first game. Schaffer was an actual mad lad back then.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SycUY7ANtD0
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>>466077915
>either way do you think we'll meet Caine again in this one?
probably not

>like we could go on an airplane and the pilot would be Caine and he'd take us to Russia or somewhere tropical etc.
take your meds malk
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>>466078074
>shitty atmosphere
Are you blind or did you never play the first one. The atmosphere is on point
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>>466077915
>We'd like to announce Bloodlines 2's first post-release DLC content... CAINE'S JUNGLE PARADISE ADVENTURE!
>Go on a quest to the lost city of El Dorado in search of the missing Gangrel accompanied by the wacky Caine and his hilarious hijinks!
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>>466078074
Who gave you permission to post with my waifu.
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>>466078228
Eh needs more rainbows
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>>466076601
That looks scary af and somewhat unnerving
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>>466078074
If it is because of the gun skill being low, they HAVE to correct it before release and have it shown that you're inaccurate with guns by having a massive crosshair, ala Deus Ex. As is it just looks like the game has shitty gunplay.
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>>466077979
>It was bad in the first game (which is also still better) so it should be bad again
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>>466075843
Dale's face was tired
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>>466078228
>on-point
fuck off
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>>466078373
>wherever i go, i must shitpost
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Is seduction on VTMB1 of any use beside getting free blood from one npc at each club?
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>>466078074
>>466078143

They're literally using some of Rik Schaffer's old tracks for the first game in this. Pretty sure you could hear one in the demo near the beginning.
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>>466078284
>uh oh I crashed the plane I guess we're stuck here
>oops I accidentally another city again
>oh Caine
Then God comes in and fucks shit up because Caine shouldn't be on vacation.
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>>466078471
they're called combat areas!
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>>466077287
Go learn what "shill" means, ESL kid.

>>466078078
You, too.

>>466077467
>9 months actually
So "nearly a year" like I said?

Go back to school, chumps.
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how the fuck does the thinblood player character become a full vamp id diablere is not in the game?
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>>466054076
>undocumented
Why did they stop calling them illegal?
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>>466053515
>paradox
It happens every time
You fall for it every time
But don't worry, keep telling yourself its a beta, its just alpha, no its a proof of concept, its a stand alone, the game is months away and will be totally different

Just like all the other times. Right?
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>>466078670
Seduction and Intimidation can both be used to solve some quests, Persuasion just solves more while Seduction gets you more free blood and Intimidation gets you more money basically
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>>466078670
it can resolve some quests like Chunk and the Giovanni
Free club slut blood is EXTREMELY useful though
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>>466077584
I like to watch good LPs when I'm too tired to play video games.
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>>466078679
Yeah, although its a bit touched up.
What i wonder is why it disappeared so quickly. I want ever-present music like the first.
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>>466078284
>>466078685
That would be more interesting than VTMB2.
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Bruh
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>>466076894
>Video literally says "Pre-Alpha Build" in the corner
it's not pre-alpha at this point, and there's no way it's going to go from pre-alpha to being beta tested and ready for full release in less than a year. pre-alpha is just a term so they can dismiss any criticism like you're doing now.
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>>466075843
Isn't it kinda unprofessional to do this passive-aggressive commentary on the dude who played the demo? I understand that he sucks, but you aren't supposed to just shit on people you work with like that. Is it different in their country?
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>>466079230
>LGBT
idrc since there were already gays in the first game and its not like they're going to force you into being personally gay
>Mental Illness
no shit
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>>466079230
the original already did that too, this is a nonissue, shitposting newfag phoneposter-kun.
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>>466079418
I'm sure the dude knows he's really bad at video games
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>>466079230
Also pronouns at character creation. Can’t wait for all the incels to seethe :)
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>>466079537
Try harder next time Paradox, VTMB never took a political stance.
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>>466078970
Best ones are still the
>IT'S SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE SHIT!
retards.

Loving every laugh.
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>>466079230
>Takes a firm political stance

So like the first game, where you could imply voting Republican would send you to hell, that George Bush was the head vampire and that the Bush administration was a secret society dealing with inner beasts and elder monsters?
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>>466077169
Bloodlines Caine is OOC. He doesn't do these convoluted plans, he just mopes.
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>>466055197
I translate their response to "We couldn't be assed to add another route and set of responses"
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>>466053515
Dear fucking god. I'm playing the first one to know what the fuck is so good about this franchise and THAT looks absolutely dreadful. Don't care desu where this is going.
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>>466053515
>Mitsoda news anchor again
>that downtown theme when the player walks out
I hope the game gets smoothed out
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>>466079878
they pretty clearly pushed the Anarchs as the good guys and you're honestly retarded if you didn't manage to pick up on that
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>>466053515
When /v/ starts talking shit about a game, you know it's gonna be a sucess.
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>>466080063
but it was Jack's plan
Caine was quite literally just along for the ride while seeming like a gloomy weirdo the entire time
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>>466078970
It’s just pre-alpha !
>it will look better in the alpha
>it will look better in the beta
>it will look better at launch
>it will look better after some patches
>it will look better when the DLC fix it
Can’t wait for this dumpster fire to flop
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>>466077846
As I said, it is still janky as fuck. But I really don't mind it too much.
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>>466053515
I told you fucking niggers not to preorder and I really hope I at least convinced one person to wait until release before buying it
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>>466079454
>>466079537
>>466080025
>it was ok the first time so it would be ok now that we ramp it up to max
fine fucking logic trannyposters
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>>466080128
They still made fun of Damsel for being too extreme. VtMB might not have pushed it in your face as hard as some other games, but it still wanted to get the point across that extremism in any form is bad.
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>>466080281
Indeed, just look at Anthem :)
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>>466080447
>ramp it up to max
I've seen 100% less gays/trannies in Bloodlines 2 than we have in Cyberpunk so far
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>>466080128
Get Camarilla ending you fucking retard.
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>>466080063
Caine as the cab driver was just mostly a metaphor for how the vampire blood was affecting "where you're going". He wasn't the one doing all the sarcophagus stuff, and anyone that says he did is just making up headcanon.
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>>466080447
Also completely fine they removed elements from the first game that are too problematic
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>>466080307
He was responsible for whatever it was that lowered your generation. The cryptic emails also weren't Jack's style.
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>>466080559
Oh, you mean the only exception in like ten years?
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>>466080447
>ramp it up to max
do you have any proof of this happening?
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>>466069364
Single handedly saved the reputation of this game
Based
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>>466080447
And saying that Republicans go to hell isn't already ramping it to the max? Stop being a retard, you've obviously never played the first game if you're bitching about VtMB turning political.
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>>466080361
I never preorder anymore, not after GW2. I'm waiting for actual released game-gameplay before i decide.
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>>466060420
Deus Ex shows you how inaccurate you are, and SS2 won't let you use weapons that you don't have the skill to use
In SS2 the skill only affects recoil and damage anyways
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>>466080635
yeah just compare it to a differnt game that we know nothing about
also cope
>>466080862
read the tread, wath the video, eDuCaTe YoUrSeLf
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>>466080503
Well I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that will happen again as the trailer made it clear that we'll have at least 4 choices in who to side with, at least one of them has to be at least somewhat in line with you and/or your character's opinions and they'll probably have wackos on every side.
One of the major parts of the setting is that pretty much everyone fucking sucks so I don't think they'll suddenly forget about that.
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>>466080740
>He was responsible for whatever it was that lowered your generation.
Don't think there's any real proof of this happening. I know Andrei makes some comments but those could also just be taken as an insult, like he's saying you're not strong enough to do this on your own so it must be Caine.

>The cryptic emails also weren't Jack's style.
I like to think the emails aren't literal and are just another metaphor for your vampire instincts or something like that. Or maybe even messages from the devs trying to warn you.
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>>466080669
I always side with Strauss
its just an Indiana Jones parody, kind of a lame ending tbqh
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>>466080794
Yes the only one.

Battleborn, Lawbreakers, Andromeda, Metal Gear Survive, Agents of Mayhem, Shadow of the Tomb Raider.
All games /v/ shat on
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>>466081021
>wath the video
I did wath the videos and didn't see anything being "ramped up to the max". I think you're just getting off on the shitposting. There's plenty to criticize about the game but I don't really see this issue you're trying to push so talking about it is a waste of time when there are real problems with the game to point out.
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>>466080740
I honestly figured that was just him having a chuckle because he knew what Jack was up to and just helped you to succeed to see what would happen
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>>466061648
Actually, it might be. A lot of polishing can be done in nine months, assuming, of course, that the game is "done" already
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>>466081021
we arguably know more about Cyberpunk than Bloodlines 2 at this point
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>>466081217
>Don't think there's any real proof of this happening.
LaCroix's attempts to dominate you at the end fail.
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>>466081021
Cyberpunk 2077 is already very problematic. Also CDPR are vile transphobic criminals
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>>466080972
You make this argument in literally every thread you fucking shill faggot.
Fuck off already.
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>watch the trailer
>environments and locales look great, atmosphere and lighting seems perfect, busy world bustling with potential victims
>okay voice acting
>vertical gameplay looks great
>facial animations and character models look bad, possibly unfinished
>combat looks trash
mixed feelings lads
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>>466081591
I’m curious, what do people mean by polishing?
If they are talking about the animations that is unrealistic and wont get better.
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>>466081910
>Can't give a reasonable rebuttal to a random guy on the internet

"Y..y..you're a shill!"
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>>466081852
I don't know much about the PnP mechanics but I've seen people giving other explanations like you just had higher willpower at that point or something, and there are perks or whatever that you can have that make it harder for people to Dominate you. The game also never really makes mention of how that works so they could've taken liberties with it for the sake of the story without it needing to exactly match how it works in PnP.
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>>466061210
>people
>change
Pick one
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>>466082259
Bugs and scripts, mostly
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>>466082290
You are BTFO'd in every thread, you just never stop spamming.

Light jokes in random dialogue or on the radio is not the same as gender pronouns and giving female character models male voices.
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>>466082027
>voice acting
Voice acting was bad, vertical movement don't looks that interesting, I was hoping for more Mirror's Edge 1/AVP2 Predator, the only good thing was how the environment looks.
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>>466079230
cool, so their target audience are all broke then?
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>>466082259
They have to bring it from jarringly, worringly janky to endearing, lovable janky
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>>466082362
He looked like a metal head and was fat, now he is thin, and dress like a retard hardcore WoD LARPer.
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>>466081591
Why do you keep repeating MUH POLISH? The game needs more than fucking polishing. You think they are going to re-record all the shit voice acting for example? Fuck off you retarded shill.
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>>466081021
>read the tread, wath the video, eDuCaTe YoUrSeLf
So you cannot provide the proofs
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>>466080740
How did he lower the pcs generation? Is this why LaCroix dominate didnt work?
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>>466082027
Sounds like typical CDPR
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>>466054075
This game needs at least another year, but with Paradox publishing that's not gonna happen.
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It baffles me that such a small below average studio choose to make a game aiming for realistic graphics. It ends up looking like complete shit because they aren’t competent enough to pull it off.
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>>466082905
>like a retard
He looks pretty okay since Bloodlines 2 announcements
Also
>appearance somehow proves people's personality can change
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>>466069364
Her mommy milkers are getting bigger every day. Beautiful.
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>>466082989
What's wron wtiht VA?
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>>466082027
>busy world bustling
Is this a joke?
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>>466082905
he literally just grew a goatee and stopped combing has bangs back, also is slightly thinner.
its been 15 years anon, these things happen. That doesn't mean he's suddenly a different dude
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>>466081671
count the trannies and lesbos for me then
just for comparison and the like
>>466083043
i can but i wontwaste my breath
whywould i repeat what was said before in the same thread
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>>466082660
No idea who you're talking about but I'm just someone with common sense. I've never spammed anything in any threads; maybe your dumbass comments just invite people to correct you a lot. Pretty funny that you immediately jump to that though since it's clear you bitch about this stuff in every thread too. You're no better than the other guy. Get a life.
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>>466082678
>I was hoping for more Mirror's Edge 1
I love ME1. That would've been great.
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>>466082027
Enviroments are definitively the highlight for me.
Character animations need a lot of work tho. Atrium chick doesn't look like she's talking to you, but Slugg is better.

I don't like the Atrium song, it's not a club song. Some anon posted Pertubator before and I think it would have fit better even with the dancing
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>>466083783
>Confirmed gay sex in Cyberpunk: Yes!
>Confirmed trap/trans in Cyberpunk: Yes!
>Confirmed gay sex in Bloodlines 2: No!
>Confirmed trap/trans in Bloodlines 2: No!
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>>466083783
>i can but i wontwaste my breath
Of course, that's why you keep posting in this thread
>whywould i repeat what was said before in the same thread
Because you don't have anything to say and you are phoneposter?
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>>466083824
See? And now you're gonna go back to spamming while refusing to accept you were just BTFO'd.
You're gonna make this false equivalence in every thread cause you're a spamming nigger. Fuck you.
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>>466077294
>Player jumps off a three story building and lands on a busy street, while nobody bats an eye

Look closely at the top. It says "blindspot" before he goes into "masquerade area" in the streets.
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>>466084420
And that makes everyone fine with him just falling out of the sky, why?
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>>466084132
Lmao ok pal, keep telling yourself that. You gonna go argue with him and call him a nigger in the next thread too? Then act like you two are any different? You still never gave a rebuttal to my comment either, you just called me a shill then acted like I was the one that was BTFO'd. Go do something better with your life than making mortal enemies through a screen.
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There was ridiculous amounts of violence against women. Misogynistic amounts.
Holy shit.
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>>466084729
See how you didn't even bother trying to make a counter argument to what I just said?
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>>466084789
I love equality!
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>>466082329
Better to go with Occam's razor rather than random chance here.
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>>466061471
>absolutelyatremere.jpg
>picture is actually a baali

this is a criminally underrated post
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>>466084025
rolling out the big insults i see
desu i just like arguing with people
thats what 4chan is good for
>>466084019
there will be degenerates in a cyberpunk setting
thats ok
whats not ok is portraying them in a biast light
same standard of degeneracy can be applied to VTM universe of course
so tell me, who is more likely to be biast towards LGBTs ?
/pol/aks or LGBT people ?
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>>466084664
Because noone saw him.
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>>466084664
No one batted an eye at me when I made my way from one end of Downtown LA to the other jumping the whole time
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>>466084987
As in the game just took liberties with how it works? Because saying it's Caine lowering your generation is a bit convoluted.
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>>466085247
Caine is the first vampire, he can basically do whatever.
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>>466084420
Later he does it again. Runs up a building and jumps back down. Then he jumps off a bridge and later runs up the club. People around everywhere. Just writing "blindspot" is just lazy and stupid. And in some cases here there was not even a "blindspot" involved.
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>>466085657
Yeah I know about that, but giving that as the reason is more convoluted than some of the other explanations.
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>>466085134
Brian is married to a woman and Cara isn't a lesbian
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>>466085923
who are they and what does it prove ?
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>>466085134
>rolling out the big insults i see
Such as..?
>desu i just like arguing with people
For argung, my dear redditor, you are lacking of arguments
>whats not ok is portraying them in a biast light
Define "bias light" pls, we've seen posts with traynny, seen lots of niggers, etc
>/pol/aks
Top fucking kek
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>>466086085
they're the people writing the game and it makes the entire /pol/ vs LGBT argument irrelevant because they aren't even LGBT themselves
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>>466085141
>Nobody saw a guy land in the middle of a busy street like fucking Ironman
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>>466084903
Counter-argument to what? That I'm a "spamming nigger"? I already told you I wasn't and you didn't believe me. I made my own point about the games being political, you called me a shill and then never responded to my point, only attacking the stuff about pronouns and gender bullshit, and then you just kept calling me a shill with increasingly seething language.

I reiterate - Bloodlines 1 took a strong political stance against Republicans and those in power at the time (and generally). It's no surprise that the sequel would do the same unless you never actually played the first game. Both games literally have the same lead writer.
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>>466086453
And..?
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>>466086453
>implying anyone would take some meth-addled hobos wandering around downtown Seattle rambling about vampires seriously



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