WHY IS IT ALWAYS TOADETTEWHERE IS PLAYABLE WALUIGI??????
NO WARUIGI HE ARTER BRAND IMAGE RONG TIME
Symmetry of character with Toad.
Because she's cute!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>462292379Becase she's fucking cute and I love her.
>>462292379Luigi is the shadow of the main character, and Waluigi's games are the shadow of the main series games
She's better than Yellow Toad at least
>>462292379Because Nintendo wishes he never existed.
>>462292379more like LITERALLYWHOLUIGI
>>462292379>Peach is the most recognizable and iconic female video game character>They decide to phase playable Peach out for Toadetteliterally why
I still don´t get why are they shilling Toadette recently
>>462292379Because they realized she's more visually distinct than yellow/blue Toads and she rose to prominence in Captain Toad
>>462292379Better than Yellow Toad 2bhThat said, she's not better than Peach so I'm a bit disappointed myself>>462294123Toadette is easier to implement
>>462292379But Waluigi is in all the spin off games Toadette is in as well. They're not going to put Waluigi in Captain Toad or Mario Odyssey. Also, Toadette is better. She doesn't wear any pants.
>>462292379Mario's true lover.
>>462294123Peach's dress and personality means she has gimmick roles only. Meanwhile Toadette can do both the play normally and floating bullshit styles.
CAN I USE TOADETTE IN SINGLE PLAYER MODE?THIS IS IMPORTANT!
>>462294403Both her and Isabelle got popular last gen. They're "shilling" both about equally. And it makes perfect sense, because she's a female representative for the entire Toadstool race. Which Toadstools needed more reps besides just colored Toad.
>>462294572They're Toad pants, they might seem like underwear or even diapers, but they're actually just very short pants.
I'm tellin' ya, it's just not fair. Where did this bloom for Toadette come from inside Nintendo? Why can't we just play as Wario in a platformer again?
You homofags already ruin enough threads, don't start hating on Toadette now.
>>462294795In Mario Kart 8 and some other games, she's literally not wearing pants. It's just the white bulb at the end of her mushroom torso. In Captain Toad, she does wear pants. A kind of Safari gear.
>>462292379I'm more angry about her replacing Peach. And being shoved in as a forced baby mode in Mario U.
>>462294123They probably want to be lazy and have Peach be kidnapped for the course world like in Mario Maker 1.
>>462294403But Toadette hasn't done anything. of value like ever. It's like how new Simpsons keeps pushing Mr Largo. Who even likes that guy?
>>462295851>teaches you moves in Thousand Year Door>makes you big tanks in Paper Jam>gives you Moons in Odyssey>Helped Toad in Captain Toadshe's done quite a bit.
>>462292379Toadette is better
>>462294123Peach is used too much. And she doesn't have much going for her unless they recycle her floating ability. Toadette is a new character with no set skills or expectations.
>>462296334>the mushroom changes the style of her boots
>>462296470It's a magical mushroom
>>462296470This is a world that can give you a cat suit from a cat bell
I want toFuck toadette.
>>462294664yep>>462295054it's sad as fuck, more so that the patrician gameplay of Wario Land and Virtual Boy Wario Land will NEVER return
>>462292379>cucking waluigi>is a pure waifuShe based!
>>462294750But Toad race don't have sexes. Are mushrooms.
>>462296601I'd only keep a collar and bell for my cat.
I bet she makes squeaky noises if you squeeze her.
waluigi is a piece of shit who deserves to get killed by kenshiro
>>462296334>>462296568>Older than PeachetteNeat
>>462292379Toadette is much easier to program than Waluigi since her size and physics are nearly identical to Toad's. Waluigi is a whole different type of animal: lankier and taller than Luigi with none of Luigi's jumping ability.
>>462294123Toadette can use Toad and Peach abilities
>>462297574That doesn't matter to the human audience, who sees Toadette as female. Also, there's some games where Toads are fawning over her as being beautiful. The real answer to all this Mario lore is they just make shit up as they go along, so sometimes she is a girl.
Any Toadettefags out there loving this? Mained her (and Paratroopa) in Double Dash onwards and am so glad she's made it into the big time now.>playable in Mario Run>MC in Captain Toad>playable in the NSMB Switch+Super Crown>playable in Mario Maker 2Fuck Waluigi, though no Wario is definitely a shame.
It's cause she's FUCKING CUTE
>>462294403i love her but it kind of baffles me. there are a lot of characters people want to see make a return to the mario series or see more of, yet they keep shilling the same characters over and overnintendo just plays it way too safe
When's Metal Mario?
>>462294403"Female" character that doesn't have to get kidnapped like Peach.
>>462298410There is no metal Mario in the 2D platformers, please understand
Are Dry Toads a thing?
>>462292379Waluigi doesn't belong outside of party/sports spin-offs.
>>462298225I've grown a strange appreciation for the "girly-girl" character type, so I find Toadette far more charming than I did in the past. It's not like she's annoying or anything, which is nice.Captain Toad sold me on the little fungi in general. That game is downright precious.
>>462295054Wario is internally considered a low rank character by Nintendo. They're biased towards EAD (now EPD) creations. He's not even a Switch profile icon, but the entire ARMS cast including the DLC is there. Waluigi is the lowest of the low because he's not even from a Nintendo-developed game and he's the counterpart to a R&D1 character.
>>462292379Member when Toadette was a dead character for a decade with her last notable appearence being four short tutorials in Paper Mario TTYD? I member.
>>462297574>spreading clickbait headlines as factAll they said was that "they never really thought about their sex before" not "they don't have sexes."They also said whether they're mushrooms or people is a mystery that will probably never be revealed.
>>462299156The Super Mario Bros. anime had the Toads as female voice.
>>462299423The anime is also not canon.
>>462299032Remember Toadsworth? F
>>462292379CHADETTE CAN'T STOP WINNINGGET FUCKED PURPLE GREMLIN
>>462298987>that detail on the acornOkay Nintendo, you're just gloating now that you finally reached HD graphics.
>>462299694Mario's first use of the SO LONG GAY BOWSER move, riding on the cloud of a Lakitu, and more.
>>462293980As do I.
>>462300095The anime says that Mario lives in the real world and works at a grocery store and the Mushroom Kingdom is in a video game.
>>462300614Which is why many games end with curtains.
>>462300959SMB3 is the only one that does and that's a play, not a video game. It also doesn't imply in any way that Mario lives in the real world either.
>>462300959Didn't Miyamoto or somebody say that the Mario characters are something akin to actors, and that's why they do all sorts of wacky spinoffs?>>462300614>works at a grocery storeNot since Bowser stole his job.
>>462298895Yeah, americans have them
>>462292379Waluigi is fucking shit that's why
>>462294403I don't get it either but I've loved her since TTYD and Double Dash so I don't care. She's cute. I've secretly been hoping they add Toad as a playable character in Smash with Toadette as half the costumes
Toadette is based.
>>462302752>Tfw Skinny Toadette MushroomWhy do we need peach again?
>>462298225Played Toad and her in DD. I know she's just Toad but pink, but it's always been sort of appealing.
>>462298225I remember that time she was absent for like 5 years and then suddenly came back in Mario Kart 8. I was fucking thrilled.
>Pick toadette and bike in Mario Kart 8>feels like all the Toad spectators are cheering for me>do all the tricks that show off her buttSo this is what it feels like to be a girl.
>>462292379She's Toad Luigi that's why. Just like back in the day with Luigi all they have to do is take another character and edit them slightly. That's the entire reason. That and so girls can have someone to play as.
>>462293472I remember the Wii days and was so happy for her to even cameo in Super Mario Galaxy, just seeing how far she's come really makes me feel old.
>>462305034More like the Peach equivalent of a Toad. Which the games are now playing up with a crown ability.
>>462292379made for Bowser Jr
>>462305152What is the Mario equivalent to a Peach?
Toadette is a good character, much more welcome than Toad but a different color that's plagued the NSMB series.
>>462292379What made them give up on shilling Rosalina?
>>462305418...Peach? Is this a trick question?
>>462305631She doesn't fit in standard Mario dynamics, being a space goddess from an older universe. Why her 3D World version was post-game optional only.
>>462305631>unlockable character in one main Mario game>"shilling"
>>462305631They didn't stop. She's still in Mario Kart and Smash Bros as much as she used to be. If anything, Toadette and Isabelle are getting more than she ever did at the height of her popularity.
>>462305960Getting in Smash (a choice that was made BEFORE 3D World) was a pretty big deal
Honestly after the bowsette shit, she deserves her spotlight back.
>>462306147We're talking in the context of Mario games, they don't shill her in Mario games more than any other character, because she was only playable in one game as a bonus character. She doesn't fit the archetype they look for a regular playable character because she's too unique to fit into the "another Mario" role that Luigi, Toad, and Toadette do. That uniqueness is WHY she got in Smash, because unlike other Mario characters she had space goddess powers and Lumas which made her a very different character from any other Mario character.
>>462306147Rosalina was stupid popular and Mario didn't exactly invent a lot of new reoccurring characters in the Wii era.
>>462306171So can you make princesses out of everything in this game?
>>462292379making toad model a girl is cheaper and easier than making a new model for waluigi
>>462294123Peach and Rosalina were teased in the press release, expect them at E3
>>462307742Imagine if the "s" doesn't mean getting more games' styles, but having them get character-specific abilities like slippery high Luigi.
>>462306739Going by the more significant characters after Mario split from D.K...Arcade gave us >Luigi>Bowser>Toad>PeachNES Gen gave us>Birdo>Koopalings>DaisySNES gen gave us>Yoshi>Kamek>Wario (Might actually be NES I think he's somewhere in between)64 Gave us>Waluigi (not significant, but still he's kind of the fourth bro)GNC gave us>E.Gadd>Toadsworth>Flood>Bowser Jr.>Toadette>King BooWii gave us>RosalinaWii U gave us>No oneYou're right. Now they've even gone back and started calling Pauline a Mario character.
>>462294123If you use Peach there's always going to be this expectation that she'll have her floating ability.On the other hand, you can make Toadette play just like Mario and friends and nobody will bat an eye.Plus dress physics lol
>>462308128Forgot one.Switch gave us>Cappy
>>462308128Nabbit and Metal Mario.
>>462308128>Wii U gave us>>No oneNabbit and I guess the Sprixies from 3D World?
>>462308602Sprixies are as important as the other monarchs from SMB3 and Piantas.
>>462308128Bowser, Toad, and Peach didn't exist until NES.Pauline IS a Mario character, it might have been called Donkey Kong but the game was a Mario game. She was also in DK94 and all the Mario vs Donkey Kong games.
>>462295054Wario is officially the funny farting minigame man now.
>>462308128Wii U gave us Sprixies I guess.It's not much but really neither is fucking F.L.U.U.D.Also worth mentioning that three of those GCN characters came from a spin-off title staring Luigi rather than Mario, so it makes sense that they introduced an entirely new cast for that specific game.Also shouldn't Bowser, Toad and Peach be NES era?
>>462295054Didn't the last Wario platformer bomb?
>>462309295The last one was Shake It! which sold over a million units
>>462308403>Counting different forms of MarioMight as well count Baby Mario as a new character too, give another point to SNES.>>462309430Well fuck I guess Nintendo just hates our guy then.
>>462308403>>462308602Good points. Metal Mario isn't super important though. I was mostly counting the characters who appear in main series games or are heavily recurring. I left out characters Like Petey and Metal Mario because they don't really live up to King Boo or the Koopalings.>>462308716I wouldn't say the Sprixies are that important. Piantas have been WAY more reoccurring at this point and they're practically the used for the same purpose. By which I mean they're just someone for Mario to help (at first).>>462308743I can't find an actual date for the arcade cabinets, so I have no choice but to take your word for it. Other than that Captain America is my favorite x-men character.>>462309194According to the Anon, I just replied to, yes. I must have gotten confused at some point.
Now I want toadette as the next smash DLC.The butthurt from waluigifags would be so great that I could die in peace after watching it.
>>462309916How should she work? Not being able to jump like Captain Toad seems to cut off that option.
>>462309916>waluigifagsNope, I'd enjoy the butthurt from the Banjos and especially the Steves
>>462297361Sauce. Where did they say you can use anyone in single player?
>>462310326>Not being able to jumpToadette is playable in fucking platformers dude. She can jump
Toadette is LITERALLY just Mario's Bandana Dee
>>462310793Not really. Toads are an ally race and Toadette isn't any more skilled than the usual player unit Toads.
>>462310793Eh, no not really. Captain Toad/Toad is a better comparison due to prominence and roles in their own respective franchises.>>462311076Waddle Dee's aren't an enemy race, so I think there's a comparison.
>>462309916Tbh Toadette should’ve been Daisy’s counter instead of blue toad
>>462311076>>462311379>a modified generic mook that acts as a main cast memberToadette is the BD of Mario. Captain Toad is an unimportant spinoff character
>>462311482>Not literally any Sarasaland-native species.
>>462292379Waluigi is too lanky for these gamesAlso toadette a cute
>>462296334It's canon now.
How would you guys feel about Toadette in Smash INSTEAD of Captain Toad?She uses all the moves and shit from Captain Toad, but she also uses her own shit like Peachette and her engineering from Mario & Luigi
>>462311649You don't fight Toads, silly. Closest is Captain Goomba from the Mario and Luigi remakes, and even then he simply ends up in evil vs evil situations.
>>462311787If I had my way that would obviously be the best outcome but Nintendo recycles toads regularly now so I figured it’d be Toadette if I had to pick a toad.
>>462311962>Come Here, Boy
>>462292379You can't really have Toadette without other Toads, but you also can't usually have Waluigi without Wario. Which character is easier to implement into a main Mario platforming game, Toad or Wario?
>>462312045You're nitpicking irrelevant details. They're both snowflake smurfs.
>>462311649What's so modified about Toadette that makes her different from other Toadettes?
>>462312340>What's so modified about ToadetteHer Pink color and braids.>other ToadettesDo you not know the smurfette principal?
>>462312547Smurfette was an artificially-created Smurf by Gargamel to infiltrate and disrupt Smurf society, but went rogue and became a member of them. Toadette is just a pink-colored Toad when they come in a bunch of colors already.
>>462312748you have autism
>>462295054Wario doesn't belong in a Super Mario Bros game. He doesn't control or play anything like Mario.He's not just Yellow Mario
>>462299001>They're biased towards EAD (now EPD) creations.EPD is the merger of EAD and SPD
>>462313368But he's right.Though, there WERE other female Toads once upon a time.Once upon a time...
>>462292379>Toadette isn't his main of choice in Mario gamesWhat are you, gay? Fuck Bowsettefags for taking her thunder.
>>462314116Paper Mario isn't canon
>>462305631Rosalina was never even shilled that hard outside of being unlockable in 3D World. She barely made it to Mario Kart Wii and wasn't even in the sequel to her own game, at least not in a meaningful way.
>>462308403Metal Mario originated from Mario 64. Metal Mario as an entity originated from Smash. Metal Mario as a separate entity from Mario in the Mario series originated in Mario Kart 7 on the 3DS.
>>462292379I don't mind, her sprites are really damn cute.Especially the mario world ones.
>>462315480Mario Golf on the 64?
>>462311379Captain Toad and Waddle Dee aren't comparable. Captain Toad has his own series and spinoff mode in a mainline game. Neither of which any Waddle Dee does. Go back to Smash threads autist.
>>462315597Oh yeah there was that too. Well the point still stands with Metal Mario having nothing to do with the Wii U.
>>462315597Smash 64 released in January 1999, Mario Golf released in June of the same year.
>>462310270Peachette would work better as an antagonist .
Toadette and toads in general are best in the Captain Toad game. Fucking adorable. I love it when you slam an enemy and she goes “Nice!”
>>462308128Wii U gave us Captain Toad. He got an entire set of special levels in 3D World and his own spinoff game afterwards. He's the Yoshi/Wario of the Wii U era.
>>462316761Galaxy gave us Captain Toad.
>>462308329>Peachshe'd where overalls like toadette and luigi doesn't have his abilities.
>>462307742source >>4623079133D world gets ported, they add daisy then add her to mario maker.
>>462298281Why are her eyes edited
Wait if Toadette is in the game does that mean... super crown?
>>462305631She's become accepted enough in the standard mario canon that she no longer feels forced
>>462318956Nah, just Super Toadette this time.
>>462318956No, they all play the same.
>>462297361They should make the next mini console virtual boy, you could fit the entire library on it.