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Message to all Citizens of Earth
It is now morally right to pirate literally everything now
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Every single one of those alternatives (except for Audacity) is shit.
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agreed
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That's what happens when you fall for the subscription jew
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>>462270339
newfag here. Can you point me in the right direction to understand all this shit?
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>>462270483
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>>462272846
People have been trying to say for the longest time "piracy is morally wrong" when in reality only like 5 out of 1000 people actually pirate. So Adobe has been actually sending emails to people saying they're not allowed to use their products if you bought older versions and only allowed subscription services. Also Sony Vegas 14 master race.
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>>462273295
I was fine with adobe until they started that whole subscription bullshit. fuck them hard, buying affinity was one of the best decisions I ever made in that regard
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>>462273295
thanks for spooning anon.
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>>462270483
truth, still can't get Blender to compile with CUDA support
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only a corporate bootlicker wouldn't pirate when given the option, your money is just going into some rich chucklefuck's pocket
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>Adobe bought Allegorithmic
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>>462270339
the best alternative is pirating the entirety of the adobe suite including shit you will never use
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>>462275162
can we pirate it minus the resource wastage?
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>>462275480
I only use Illustrator and it's honestly very undemanding (whenever I have to open Photoshop it's always a wild ride though)
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>>462270339
>all the corporate software contains an executable script extension
>hackers keep writing malware that abuses the scripting
>corporation has to keep patching exploits constantly or customers will sue
>corporation tries to go full reta- err, subscription so they can keep paying for software maintenance
>customers instead download free shovelware that, for all its faults, DOES NOT SUPPORT EXECUTABLE SCRIPTS IN NON-EXECUTABLE FILES and therefore can't be abused by hackers
why do corporations always shit the bed at some point
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It's sad how Adobe was always "The industry standard" so nobody even bothered to butt in or compete out of the sheer word of mouth and "I want to be a professional". Hitfilm Free version and the Vegas 16 I bought during a humble bundle was neato
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>>462270339
What's a good program to view PDFs? I'm using Foxit Reader but the pls buy ;_; ads are annoying.
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>>462270483
Affinity Photo and CSP are fucking great. Get off of the brand loyalty cult and stop sucking that corporate dick.
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>>462276052
I thought Google Chrome and others have built-in PDF. I use CD Display Ex, but careful installing, it'll try to trick you into installing some security software
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>>462275674
I feel like everything is coated in mud whenever i have it installed, legitimate copy or not. Everything runs slower, shit is more prone to crashing.. i don't know what it is about adobe stuff, but the more adobe stuff the worse it gets, I don't even like having reader or flash
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>>462270339
>go to pirating website
>going to pirate because I don't want to pay fully away I'm doing something illegal
>website has quotes on saving freedom and that they are fighting the good fight against evil and other cringe delusional shit

jesus christ
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>>462276052
Sumatra PDF is lightweight and FOSS:
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>>462276052
SumatraPDF
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>>462276637
tell me which website
post proof
screenshots
links
you know the drill
oh but you can't lol
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>>462276637
>corporate poison killing the world since the 80's
>don't fight back cause that's for losers!
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Are there any good free video editing softwares out there? I'm graduating uni soon and my $1 for premiere pro deal will expire with it, and while I enjoy it, it's not worth anywhere near the ridiculous amount of money they ask.
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>>462277098
just pirate like the rest of us do
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>>462270339
isn't the picture missing all the corel products? are they defunct?
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>>462270339
>Tfw you try making a circle in GIMP.
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>>462276637
>Nigga I just want my porn don't want this bleeding heart bullshit
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>>462276637
>Little Dimitri can't play Assassin's Creed in his toaster of PC he built himself with spare parts because Yves Guillemot needs those 60 bucks so he can get an extra line of coke tonight
Piracy is right, corporations are not gonna go bankrupt because people pirate their shit, CDPR fucking threw The Witcher at people without DRM and they are a millionaire company now, all you achieve with Denuvo always online and agressive DRM is that some little kid who cant afford video games have to keep playing dota and f2p shit forever.
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>>462277098
Hitfilm, it's free but it expects you to know how to do everything before opening it up
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This thread is not video games, but I'm hoping someone can help me here.
I need some freeware that will allow me to simply splice videos together and export them as a single video.
Help me gamers
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>>462275160
I'm actually still fucking pissed.
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>>462276052
I use Edge, dunno why but I like it.
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>>462276052
Thirding Sumatra, the only thing I don't use it for is forms that need to be filled out.
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>>462270339
>Ae
>blender

I use blender and I don't understand how is an alternative
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>>462276052
Your web browser, dumbass
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What about an Acrobat alternative?
t. office slave
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>>462273295
wait what, is this real life?
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>>462277876
ffmpeg if you don't mind using the command line / script files for everything
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>>462276934
cringe
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>>462277098
Just pirate premiere? why are people so eager to pirate shit? no one cares, specially if you are not even considering buying the product but you like it.
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>>462277876
buy adobe aftereffects its the only way
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>>462277418
>circle select
>selection > border
>fill selection
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>>462277876
If you have any interest on editing video now or in the future or you think you will have some use for that skill pirate premiere, its easy to use.
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>>462278310
what a retarded work-around for something that should exist by default
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>>462278310
>As opposed to just drawing a fucking circle
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>>462270339
clip studio works on vectors?
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>>462274481
>muh sekret club
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>>462270483
Krita and Paint tool sai are based
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>>462270483
>Hating on GIMP
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>>462273295
Wait seriously? They're disallowing all use of their software if it's not subscription based? I've got an old version of adobe suite on my adobe account I was planning to install for a while now. That shit costed $500. I'm just out that money now?
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>>462270339
>no substitute for adobe premier
What can I use to create my video shitposts now?
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>>462278639
You can't even download the old photoshop trials anymore.
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>>462278639
Yup
You paid 500 bucks for a license they decided to revoke now.
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>>462278490
Clip has vector tools, along with being able to use all of the brushes as vectors instead of rasters. You just create a vector layer, and everything can be edited with ease.
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>>462278193
This.
Adobe never really gave a shit about end user piracy of any of their products since they've known for the past 20 years that the teenager that shitposts using a pirated photoshop will probably get a job doing media work at some company that already paid for an enterprise license.
If an enterprise software company doesn't care about consumer single end user piracy of their product, why in the flying fuck would you go with a FOSS alternative?
That's not to say the programs in OP are shit. Adobe crap is just more of a jack-of-all-trades type deal.
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>>462278259
>buy
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>>462278072
blender has some compositing tools in its node window. That program is like a swiss army knife for digital media. I don't know if you can straight up composite and export entire videos in it though.
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Reminder that Photoshop 5 is still based. CS3 is a close second
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>>462278639
According to reports, Adobe licensed software from Dolby or some shit to use in their own programs. As such they would have to report their sales to Dolby for royalty reasons. This is easy to track with physical media, however Adobe's switch to cloud/subscription services and subsequent caginess about how much they've actually sold has resulted in litigation between Adobe and Dolby. In short, Adobe is saying that Dolby might have the grounds to sue people using older software as they, and Adobe, won't have license to it anymore.
Not to say that Adobe didn't dig this grave themselves, but it's Dolby that's out for blood.
Also wouldn't be surprised if Adobe just sells out anyone using older software to Dolby just to placate them.
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>>462278639
Exactly, they're declaring that it's now illegal to use software you legitimately purchased in the past, reason why people are now up to arms against Adobe. This also started because they declared they'd be increasing the price of their PS + Lightroom pack. So in simple terms, Adobe is going extra jew right now.
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>>462270339
Well, I use the official adobe products but they are all pirated by based chinese crackers
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>>462279017
fucking hell, if clip studio paints later implements more functions to edit texts, i won't be needing photoshop to draw anymore
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Reminder that pirating photoshop is so easy a 10 year old could do it.
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>>462279402
i'll keep on cracking PS anyway as should everyone else
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I believe there's current trend of tech companies moving away from user ownership in favor of subscription based models.
These are not only potentially more lucrative, but there's little to no regulation regarding them, unlike ownership.
I believe this to be fucking gay.
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>>462278075
wont work with big pdf
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>>462279676
I'm currently paying the subscription because I managed to get the $19.99 student pack with all programs in it, even when last time I cancelled it they said they'd be increasing it to $29.99 and I've been using at least five of the programs. I'm sure eventually I won't be able to pull this out anymore since I've been out of college for two years already so I've been checking the alternatives. Or I'll just look for a place where to pirate them, whatever happens first, but CSP looks very interesting and is also a one-time purchase.
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>>462279340
Wait what the fuck? How is the end user culpable in this dispute at all? Is what Adobe's saying even legally viable? Dolby can sue an end user because Adobe failed to report digital sale of the product he/she is using? That sounds retarded. Any lawyer anons wanna chime in here? It sounds more like Adobe wants people to stop using old software because it'll inflate the number of people who bought their software digitally thus forcing them to give more license money to Dolby should Dolby ever get those numbers.
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>tfw been pirating all my life
>tfw grew up with pirated games that my neighbour would give me.
>tfw never really gave a shit, nobody else did either.

Why are all you such moralfags.
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>>462279969
when cracking Adobe products keep in mind the only file you need is the amtlib.dll
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>>462279659
i hate CC version, prvious version is top tier
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>>462279969
If you're actually interested in paying for CSP they often have 50% off sales. Last year they had one in June. Maybe they'll have one around the same time. I'd wait until then.

>>462280091
>How is the end user culpable in this dispute at all?

Adobe spends more time and effort on writing bulletproof EULA agreements instead of properly updating their software.

>Dylan Gilbert, a copyright expert with consumer group Public Knowledge, said in this instance users aren’t likely to have much in the way of legal recourse to the sudden shift.

>“Unless Adobe has violated the terms of its licensing agreement by this sudden discontinuance of support for an earlier software version, which is unlikely, these impacted users have to just grin and bear it,” Gilbert said.

>Gilbert noted that consumers now live in a world in which consumers almost never actually own anything that contains software. In this new reality, end users are forced to agree to “take it or leave it” end user license agreements (EULAs), in which the licensor can change its terms of service without notice.

>“Even if Adobe is fully in the right here with regard to the Dolby dispute, it has the power to force its customers to upgrade to newer more expensive versions at its whim, which illustrates the undue power and influence of EULAs over the lives of consumers,” Gilbert said. “We should be able to own the things we buy.”
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Reminder that free alternatives are generally better, because they're often open source and you can find tons of adjustments and mods by the community to make the product work even better. Whereas with corporate bought software you're locked into what they want, and they can change it with an update whenever they want.

Don't give money to shitty companies just because you're used to using their shoddy products. Pirate if you absolutely have to.
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>>462278507
I was thanking him you mong.
>>462273295
>>462274481
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>>462270483
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>>462279157
it's the only -way
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>>462278639
RIP, sorry bout that anon
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>>462270339
literally everyone with a VCR and cable pirated shit all the fucking time. why is it that now it's harder for normies to get into it's terrible to do?
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>>462279768
The high days of piracy have returned.
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What's so fucking crazy about this is how Adobe has worked closely with schools to completely brainwash fucktards like this >>462270483 so that they actually believe Art = Adobe and there are no other alternatives.

Actually, Photoshop is really lacking as an illustration software, because it was designed to edit photos. Illustration features are only added as an afterthought, but everyone thinks it's superior because they were brainwashed their whole lives and have baby duck syndrome. Even for basic image editing, CSP and Krita are more than enough for 99% of the population, but they've been so brainwashed into thinking that they actually need Photoshop.
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>>462280947
>“Unless Adobe has violated the terms of its licensing agreement by this sudden discontinuance of support for an earlier software version, which is unlikely, these impacted users have to just grin and bear it,” Gilbert said.
I get what he's saying in that you can't legally dispute them unsupporting old software and pushing you to buy the new one, but where's the legal grounds in you yourself getting sued by Dolby for using old software? I think that's 100% bullshit designed to scare you into paying for an upgrade.
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>>462281236
>VCR and Cable
look at Rockefeller over here, back when I wanted to watch Dino Thunder I would just hook up my Dad's camcorder and watch it on the preview screen
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>>462281521
>buy product
>use it exactly the way the company says to
>company changes their mind and sues you for it
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>>462281236
ACKCHEEUWALLY recording stuff on your VCR isn't piracy at all. Cable companies back in the day went platinum mad and tried suing VCR companies but the law told them to fuck off.
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>>462277313
I think they are subscription too.
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>>462281521
How are they gonna find out you're using old software anyway?

Assuming you edited your hosts file like a good boy.
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>>462281478
Graphic designer here, pretty much most of my university classes were using both exclusively Adobe and Macs. On one side, it was nice to actually learn a lot of the programs most people don't normally use like InDesign or Dreamweaver, but this whole debacle has made me start feeling like all that time learning those programs will go to waste because now I have to look for alternatives because I definitely am not supporting this kind of bullshit. Not that I should really worry about it, I learn fast anyway.

Your brainwashing claim actually applies more about Macs, it's unbelievable how people actually believe that a Mac is THE computer you need to use for design or video editing when we also had PCs which were even more powerful, able to run 3DMax and Maya without issues, while the Macs never had those programs installed. Even if I learned to use the Mac OS, I just can't force myself to use anything related to Apple, I hate their products overall.
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>>462281521
>but where's the legal grounds in you yourself getting sued by Dolby for using old software

Because that old software is no longer Adobe's, or your, software. It's Dolby's.
And in Dolby's eyes you didn't pay for it.
Also the upgrade is free for most.
The big benefit for Adobe here is they get to shunt any legal obligation off their table and onto those who don't want to update.
>You either update to our new, non-Dolby reliant update or you're on your own when Dolby comes knocking, cause we disowned that software you decided to stick with.
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>>462282117
Photoshop phones home?
I've been using a version of photoshop from like 2002 for almost 2 decades
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>>462270339
It always was though?
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>>462270339
What are those other boxes? I only recognize photoshop
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>>462282559
What happened to the money that I spent on it? Where did that 500 dollars go? Am I supposed to just eat that deficit?
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>>462282578
Pretty much all software sends back data.
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>>462281478
should I bother with Krita when I already have Sai?
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>>462282559
I guess that makes sense. Though if I were in Dolby's shoes I'd encourage people to keep using "my" software by not threatening any lawsuits to keep money away from Adobe.
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>>462282728
>Am I supposed to just eat that deficit?

Unfortunately that seems to be what Adobe is saying.
Supposedly anything pre-subscription model is safe but you'll have to check and see if it's using licensed tech from some other third-party. Supposedly Dolby isn't the only company looking to collect from Adobe.
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How is Affinity Photo really? I've been considering it
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I get why it pisses people off bug I use Adobe cc for my business and find the convenience a big positive. AI, I'd and PS are all easily interconnected and better than the competition.

Vegas and audacity are better for video and audio respectively.
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>>462278152
kill yourself, shill.

Die of cancer you self important fuck.
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>>462270339
Every damn time
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In the 3d world we're taught not to get too attached to any kind of software, because it'll change depending on what company you end up working for, and some places might even have proprietary stuff you'll need to use instead. More people should take that message to heart. If a program is giving you shit, then get rid of it and try something new. Most of them have the ability to remap hotkeys and that's all that will really be different. Even Blender has a "Maya" mode that autoremaps all their hotkeys to Maya ones.
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Wait a minute, there are people who actually buy Adobe products?
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>>462270339
It appears I'm behind the times.
t. Boomer 4 Lyfe.
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>>462284298
Pretty sure that version of Firefox is from 1999, as well.
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>>462284503
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Who here still using NeoPaint?
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rather than pirating adobe stuff like a normal person i actually downloaded the trials for some programs and then used a patcher on them and then i blocked in the firewall outbound connections for these programs
i dunno why but it was really fun
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you ARE using Krita, right /v/?
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>tfw would make matrix-themed sigs in paint.NET
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krita or medibang pro or clip studio paint
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>>462281478
My best friends has a degree in animation and yeah that's pretty much what they required you to do.
He can't even use some of the really good illustration programs due to the fact that everything feels different to him.
Sorta like how I gotten so used to game maker I have a hard time getting used to godot.
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blender is based and redpilled
autodesk can suck my dick
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>>462270483
Fucking this. SAI is not bad though, but it's not even a PS alternative.
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>>462270339
Never believe an infographic listing the Gimp as an alternative to a program, not even MS Paint.
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>>462285041
no, drawing software list from best to worst:
clip studio
sai
photoshop
krita
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>>462286251
What's wrong with Gimp? If I just need something to be able to make layers and rectangle select things is it good for that?
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>>462276052
>>462278079
I use an old pre-cancer version of Foxit(basically 6.0.X and earlier), but if you want something up to date then Sumatra like everyone else is saying.
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>>462284298
The only reason I don't still use it is because I couldn't get it to run right on Win7. The tools and options made sense and weren't buried underneath a mountain of WTF for what should have been simple operations. Its file browser was far superior to that Bridge piece of shit and every day I wish I could force that crap to stop doing unnecessary shit like tagging files with a star rating if I accidentally click the wrong place(dicks up my by-date sorting methods). Hell, as it is I'm really only using Photoshop because I needed something right that second and Adobe had just rolled out that lulzy "log in to this site to download/activate CS2 for free because we're killing the old auth crap, but plz only do it if you really bought it" campaign.
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>>462285041
Yeah
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>>462276517
Dunno if this problem applies to you, but if you have an nVidia card, try disabling Hardware Acceleration. I used to have abnormal slowdowns, crashes and even occasional BSODs when using Photoshop and the like. I even went so far as sending my PC back to the manufacturer to see if it was faulty, but they returned it without finding any issues.
I searched around some websites and messed with some settings and found out that nVidia drivers, for some reason, don't play well with hardware acceleration. Ever since I disabled it (including on my browser), I stopped getting sudden crashes on Photoshop.
Now, your problem might be something else but hey, I tried to help.
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>>462282717
Ps = Photoshop
Ai = Illustrator
Id = InDesign
An = Animate (the version of Flash, pretty much)
Lr = Lightroom
Dw = Dreamweaver
Ae = AfterEffects
Au = Audition
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>>462270339
is there a flash alt?
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>>462270339
A lot of those PS alts are better painters but they can't beat PS for image editing, which is its main purpose.



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