What's the appeal?
Replay and ability synergy
Better zelda than the ones nintendo make.Litterally my childhood the game in the 90s.Prob my favorite game from this decade.Prob the last game with the hint of the 90s in it
>>454612148This, synergies are very fun, lots of stuff to unlock, you can get really OP sometimes but no run is a complete dud either. Very basic on the surface but once you know the mechanics you can work out some strategies and manage your resources.Edmund really shit the bed on the later expansions and made it tedious and boring though.
>>454612685How often do you beat Mom? I just went against her for the first time and was so fucking close
>>454612983When you first start might be like 1 outta 4After it will be 1/2Soon you will win so much it will be a surprise you lost
Only the first iteration + DLC were good. Rebirth and later expansions just transformed the thing into a "look how colorful these synergies are, by the way you're gonna win, unless you go fight this boss scaled on your attack power"
>>454612983Mom's easy to beat. If you can get to her you can beat her. It's her heart that's hard to fight.
>>454613198Ive liked the series till the last expac. Now the new expac should fix all de problems
Any alternatives to this with lots of content?I've heard mixed things about Gungeon and Moonlighter
>>454613165>>454613215but if Mom is so easy why keep playing? OR is there more content after Mom? (pls no hardcore spoilers)
>>454613726The game finds new challenges for you, yes
>>454613726There is more content yes.
>>454613198Rebirth was good but I agree the power you could get was to much. Then when the DLC came out it was putting to much in the game I find, then they release another DLC.
>>454611124getting a shit item that ruins your whole run
>>454614676I mean, you don't HAVE to pick it up.
>>454614754DannyB is amazing shame that something happened between the two and they stopped working together after this game.
>>454611124It's fun but having to beat Satan 5 times and Isaac 5 times to get the negative and polaroid is kinda fucked, especially when their stages showing up is entirely chance. Also, beating mom's heart fucking 11 times to unlock it lives and the hush is fucking CRAZY. It gets to just be a chore doing 30 minute runs over and over just to be able to progress
>>454613726Even if Mom or any boss becomes easy for you, you can often fuck yourself over by having a shitty items combos or just trying to beat it with yet unfamiliar character, for example.I have almost 500h in this shit and I still want to go back to it once in a while.
>>454614815Curse of the blind can always fuck you over or you might just stumple upon it accidentally
>>454613726>OR is there more content after Mom?oh my sweet summer child
>>454614995>especially when their stages showing up is entirely chanceThey're guaranteed to show up after you beat the heart enough times. Getting to them early via devil/angel rooms is just kind of a bonus.
>>454613215There are bosses way way way harder to fight than Mum's heart. Like Super Greed for starters.
>>454613726Yes. It's a fucking Rougelike of fucking course you retard.
>>454613726The more you play(and win) the more you unlock, both in terms of what you can find in previous areas and what new areas at the end open up.
>>454616118What's a Rougelike?
>>454616118well excuse me for not being an epic gamer we live in a society ok
>>454616049If you mean Ultra Greed, I lucked out and got to cheese him with Azazel and Controlled Tears.
>>454613726Yes a shitload after. I will spoil some. After you beat mom you unlock it lives as the next final boss then after than you get to choose between isaac and satan as the final boss. Then the lamb and dead baby as the final boss. The true final boss without dlc is only possible after doing certain things which is mega satan.
>>454611124What kind of game is this
>>454617134It's an abortion simulator.
>>454617990so basically alt-right christcuck incels: the game?
>>454618310I feel many fundie Christians would be offended by its portrayal of infanticide and satanic deals.
>>454618310NoJust try it out, how is that so hard? /v/ is never right about anything.
>>454616049Ultra Greed? Yeah that bitch got a damage cap.Fuck damage scaling.
>>454616596hes not even hard, delirium is harder than he is
>>454613726there is more content beyond mom that beforelike 10 times the content
>100%'d Original Isaac + WotL>Want to play Rebirth, Afterbirth and Afterbirth+ are garbage and without DLCs the game is unbeatable thanks to vanilla Lostwhat do anons
>>454620010>and without DLCs the game is unbeatable thanks to vanilla LostMaybe you need to git gud some of us did it before the DLCs came out.
>>454620010Just keep resetting until you get dead cat with the lost after getting the first devil room. Thats what I did before the lost got buffed.
>>454621259Nah. Good tip though, but fuck resetting.
>>454612983with the right setup you can piss on most bosses. What it comes down to is resources handling, not having a incredibly shitty build, and not getting hit. Basically more endurance. But that's really when you've beat the game a couple of times and understand the game beyond the surface level (items, rooms, bosses) and get into the mechanics (pills, slot machines, secret rooms, devil rooms, etc)
>>454622807I think it saves time in the long run. I’m not fucking keeping glass cannon as my first item as lost, fuck that.
While it might not have the greatest core gameplay out of roguelites, it has what matters: systems that interact with each other and create interesting emergent gameplay scenarios. The more you know about the game the more possibilities there are to take advantage of the systems to leverage a win. And sometimes the payoff is just cool as hell item synergies, with is fun in itself.
>>454623842Back before Edmund was giving us item spoilers before rebirth came out.