>>454538139>no RaymanCrash is based though
This is objectively the best roster, only grinchies, contrarians & westies will disagree
>>454538139I dont get the obsession with grovyle and type null on these fan rosters
>>454538327Fuck off weeb
>SilvallyOkay, I'll take the bait.How do you incorporate his gimmick into gameplay? His entire concept is Arceus-lite style type changing.
>>454538546>454538546> BBBUT WEEB> Crying about Japanese shit in a japanese made game, on a Japanese anime website no lessGo back to pleddit tranny, even Resetera cucks don't seeth about Japanese shit
Verifiable source on Smash Leaks https://discordapp.com/invite/jdEFGnU
>>454538767Not Nintendo, all of these franchises have Nintendo history or originated from Arcades like Pac-Man & Street Fighter did
>>454538139What did Simon smell to make his face like that?
>SyluxThe man is irrelevant and absolutely not deserving of a spot until Prime 4 actually releases.>>454538519>GrovyleMuh patterns. People want a solo grass starter because we had/have Charizard (now Incineroar) and Greninja as solo Fire and Water starters. Admittedly Grovyle is probably the most reasonable pick for that besides Decidueye since Grovyle has a surprisingly connected history in the franchise (relevant in Dungeon and the anime, namely). However it's still just muh patterns shit that people bother mentioning him at all as he's been irrelevant for decades.>Type: NullThat's Silvally, Type: Null's evolution. But presumably just because people know Gen 7 would get a rep and they don't want it to be Incineroar. There's also the quadruped rather than biped argument which would make him interesting I guess.
Sorry for the lack of detail, but this is the more of a perfect roster than either of those.
>>454539208Second Corrin is Egedlard.
>>454538992just like joker
>>454538139I stop looking at a list as soon as I notice two Sonic characters, especially when one is Shadow. Fuck off
>>454539405Sonic deserves 2.
>>454539398> SMT originated on the NES, Persona is a SMT spin off> Implying Joker isn't NintendoCope
>>454538139>shadow not an echo
Who is that between Skull Kid and Toon Link? Is that Ganon from Link to the Past?
>>454538139>charizardShit>zero-suit SamusIf she’s like she is in brawl, shit>that hunter from Metroid prime hunters who’s name I forgotShit>the sheer number of PokémonAbsolutely shit
>>454539208>Cranky Kong>Captain Syrup>Tingle>Porky>Karate Joe>Bomberman>Leon >PhoenixEXTREMELY BASED
>>454539473No he doesn't. And even if he did it should be Eggman. Fuck Shadow.
>>454538992>Hatsune Miku>Nintendo or arcade
>>454539473Nope. Sonic is a series for autists and faggots that hasn't had a good game in close to 20 years. The only reason it deserves one rep at all is legacy. Any more is the equivalent of adding shovelware.
>>454538139get rid of the last 4 and you have my interest
>>454539912>he doesnt want crash
>>454538992>Miku???Also Touhou girl has Switch games, even though I'd think she'd be just as bad as Hatsune Miku
no, it really isn't.
>>454538327>it's another "KOSMOSfag/Ayanefag shits up another Smash thread with their fucking abysmal taste and hatred for anything that isn't Japanese" Hate this epsiode
>>454538139Why are you fags trying so hard to squeeze Genesect in Smash ? This guy isn't even popular, its movie was garbage and we already got a gen 6 rep.
here are your cuts for smash 6 bro>>454538597>idiotsakurai himself has said the next game won't have as many, a lot was sacrificed already because little faggots can't live without their 3rd link or 4th marth
>>454540176> Everyone is the same boogeyman> Anything that isn't Western is BadDie Grinchie
>>454539208>most perfect>fucking ALPH who literally nobody likes, instead of Louie who literally EVERYONE likes.
>>454540238No he fucking didn't. Why are Smashfags so retarded when it comes to taking shit out of context. He's never even spoke directly about Smash 6, just pretty much said "This was really hard to do." If I'm being honest I don't even think Smash 6 is possible, they'll probably just keep porting versions of Ultimate to new consoles, Like Mario Kart 8. Cuts mean risking profits
Sorry but if your character isn't on here & doesn't have a mainline game on a Nintendo console they are irrelevant and will never be added in Smash (Assuming they aren't already in)
>>454540235Genesect is Gen 5. But he's still a stupid pick.
that's a lie. Here's the ACTUAL perfect roster, as made by /v/ themselves.
>>454540325>consistently posts the same bullshit every single thread>> Everyone is the same boogeymanSeething Post your "Most Popular Video Game Characters Chart" already as a pitiful attempt to justify your garbage opinions
>>454540238Ridley and K.Rool should be yellow too.
>>454540238>Thinking that Isabelle has a chance of being cut>Believing Jigglypuff is a lock
No Mo-Monster Hunter chads win again!
>>454540325>> Everyone is the same boogeyman>Die Grinchieam I the only one seeing the irony here?
>>454540525> Disagreeing with the /v/ivemind when this board has one of the lowest IQ on 4chan = BadJesus this place is worse then Resetera
>>454540238Is Yellow supposed to imply possible cuts? Are you trolling? Why the fuck would they cut out first-party staples like G&W and Meta Knight?
>>454540607no, they're rivals of the original 8/12 as well as highly requested over a decade. Not going anywhere >>454540614If shitlypuff has been in all the smash games, she's not going anywhere. Fair to assume the original 12 are here to stay.
>>454540828>first-party staples like G&W and Meta Knight?first, these arn't first party staples, second to make dev time for other characters. Retro characters are always considered for the chopping block, metaknight isn't as major as kirby/dedede
>>454540389Never said it was perfect, I said it was more of a perfect than the guy with Silvally and the guy with Hatsune Miku and Vaati on their rosters.
>>454540979G&W is first party and has been in the game for 18 years. Meta Knight is a Sakurai character that's been there since Brawl. They aren't going anywhere.
>>454540325>>454540484>>454540734>le GameFAQs chart>le Grinchfag and Reseteratranny boogeymanLike absolute fucking clockwork
>>454538139>Grovyle>Genesect>what nu-Mon that is next to Greninja>no Jigglypuff, Pokemon Trainer, or MeowthYou've got terrible taste, my man
>>454540851"Original 12" isn't a thing. Ness would have been cut in Melee if Mother 3 wasn't delayed. Jigglypuff wouldn't have been in Brawl if Brawl wasn't delayed. Captain Falcon was added because his shape fit the characters from Smash's prototype Dragon King.
>>454538139>Cut Dark Pit>Add Shadow the Edgehog
>>454541218>would have been in the pastThe OG 12 aren't going anywhere past Smash 4. It'd make no sense.
When the fuck are we going to range ban europeans?
>>454541218back then sure, but now there's a different precedent
>>454540851>no, they're rivals of the original 8/12 Irrevelant. K.Rool is not even a reccuring character in his own series anymore>as well as highly requested over a decadeThat didn't stop Mewtwo, Pokemon trainer, Wolf and IC to get cut tho.It's pretty obvious that Sakurai at least didn't want them in Smash to begin with:>Get mentionned or appears as trophy is every Smash game>Yet never chosen by Sakurai to be a newcomer>Only get in because some diehard fans spergged about them for years>Sakurai literally choose ZSS over Ridley in Smash with a dumb excuses to justify itThis guy are nowhere near safe from being cut.
>>454538139Bitch please (1/2)
>>454541218It may have not been a thing then but it sure as hell is a thing nowNess, Captain Falcon, and Jigglypuff are all super fucking iconic Smash characters at this point
>>454540238>thinking they would ever cut Isabelle or Duck Hunt>Wolf, Ridley, or K Rool being safer than Diddy Kong, Lucario, ROB, G&W, Mewtwo, Meta Knight, Ryu, or the Ice ClimbersHoly shit, this is just so wrong on so many levels
>>454538139.Skull Kid>Tom Nook>Banjo>SyluxBa->no Richter>Shadow as his own character
>>454538327>Alucard as an echo for Simon>Ryu as an ech for Riku200+ IQ roster right here
>>454540238>Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, and Isabelle are more likely to be cut than King K. Rool and Wolf
>>454539208>Cranky>Sceptiledon't need to see the rest, I'm sold
>>454541384>That didn't stop Mewtwo, Pokemon trainer, Wolf and IC to get cut tho.none of these were even close to the level of k rool/ridley
>>454542045>none of these were even close to the level of k rool/ridley>Wolf>Pokemon trainer>Mother Fucking MewtwoSource: My ass
>>454541384K. Rool is a lock for the next smash game because he's a lock for the next smash game. That said you were correct about Diddy being a 100% lock. Even if they gut the roster down to like 30 characters Diddy isn't going anywhere and I'm sick of retards thinking he has any chance of being cut.
>>454538139>waluigi>skullkid>king boo>no incineroar>keeping pichu>grovyle>bandana dee>getting rid of Corrin but keeping girl Marth>no doomguy>no plant>no joker3/10 got me to reply
>>454542045>Mewtwo isn't comparable to Ridley or King K. RoolAre we talking about the same Mewtwo here? Like, from the Pokemon games?
>>454542324I expect to get mogged for this because you're one of those smug anime fags but obviously I meant "K. Rool is a lock for the next smash game because he's a lock for the next Donkey Kong game."
>>454542423I'll do you one better.
>>454542296nobody would even consider the concept of pokemon trainer before the inclusion, starfox has dropped in popularity immensely. Mewtwo you've got a point, but people weren't clamoring for him for over a decade
>>454538139Why do cutfags think anyone is going anywhere? What they're gonna do is port Ultimate over again like Mario Kart 8, and if they can't guarantee return of the roster they aren't going to greenlight a Smash 6. Almost all of the sales and praise for Ultimate is riding on the "Everyone is Here!" slogan. They wouldn't reach a significant fraction of those sales or reception if they tell everyone "Your favorite isn't coming back." They'll make Sakurai do it or they'll have someone else do it if he's too broken down. Either way there's no way they're gonna announce a Smash 6 without being able to secure a deal with every party involved. Until then enjoy Smash U for the next 10 years
>>454538139>>454538327>No WrightNo Buy
>>454542659Sakurai said himself that they probably won't be able to pull this off again, and there's no way Cloud makes it back on the base roster going forward. DLC is plausible because SE gets a bigger cut that way.That said people are expecting the gutting of the century when realistically we can probably expect something like Brawl -> 4 at worst and more likely Melee -> Brawl in terms of cuts.
>>454542423Will we ever get a character select screen with this much soul again?
>>454542896>Sakurai said himself that they probably won't be able to pull this off againCan you link me to this? I see it brought up a lot
Here's your actual perfect roster.
>>454540690add a circumcised penis for cutfags
>>454541706Ryu is an echo for Kasumi, Riku is a echo for Sora you idiot
>>454540690Hello? Agent O? This is Agent M, we have a Bruh Moment.
>>454543320> Realistic> Literal who Space Marine> Nintendo shit that isn't FE or PokemonThis better be bait
>>454543250He also stated in this same interview that a new Smash isn't a guarantee, which to me supports the notion that they will only greenlight one in the future if they can cut a deal with all third parties involved or do something else equally spectacular, which would require a lot of effort to surpass Ultimate's expectations
>>454543320I don't hate it.Why aren't the koopalings a costume tho?
>>454543478Maybe you should put Kasumi between Riku and Ryu then you idiot.
>>454543565>> Literal who Space Marinedamn, I should have reserved posting >>454543531 for this embarrassment of a post.
>>454543701they're their own character with each koopaling being an echo fighter of each other, selectable via palette swap
>>454541312Shadow the Hegdehog is a completely different character from Sonic, with different abilities.Dark Pit is literally just Pit's reflection with darker clothes and a bad additude.
Here (+ Eggman) is the perfect list of boss fights
>>454543320I feel like if you're going to throw in Lord Freddy as an echo (cool choice), you may as well throw in Dixie for Diddy. They would both probably have about the same amount of tweaks from the original character.
>>454543689He says a new smash isn't a guarantee every game.Either way I was just explaining the cutfags' reasoning, a new smash is a very long way off anyway.
>>454544201I think there's more truth to that notion this time around, given the scope of this game. But yeah cutfags go waaay too far. Like weren't Ice Climbers only cut due to the 3DS? From the Switch on out I really don't see them removing any first parties ever again.
>>454544028>no nesswhat did he mean by this?
>>454544036>no DK bossgaypick one:>King Zing>Krow>Colonel Pluck>Tiki Tong>Bashmaster>Lord FredrikI'd go with Pluck or Bashmaster personally, they're interesting fights and it throws the Retro games a bone.
>>454538139I only like this roster cause it has monsterhunter. Any roster with a corring style swappable male/female monster hunter and a different monster set on each alt is the perfect roster to me.
>The Bounty Hunter marks his next bounty!A true never ever
>>454544989If this was even remotely possible it'd probably be crusader or highwayman. Regardless, great taste.
>>454544046true. I'll add her.
>>454544036PUT HIM IN
>>454544509>>Colonel Pluckis that really his name? I always thought it was Feathered Fiend
>>454545378Shit, nevermind I'm just blind
>>454545379Yeah, his theme (and the name of the level) is Feather Fiend. It's one of the best songs in Returns. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvXzwqJ5OdA
>>454543565didn't DOOM 2016 win fucking game of the year?
>>454545825They might mean ranger which is still retarded because quake is far from unpopular.
>>454544509The only iconic DK boss is K Rool and he is already playable
>>454546062If you see the need to add a Splatoon boss I don't see why you wouldn't just go all the way and add a DK boss too.
>>454546062Bash Master is unironically the second most iconic and recognizable boss behind K. Rool. It's retarded how many people know him compared to the rest.
>>454545825who gives a fuck? there are a million game of the year awards out there and none of them mean anything
>>454538139>This is the ideal Smash roster. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
>>454538139Perfect rosterfag roster, i.e. roster which places greatest priority on "correct" representation rather than characters that would be interesting or characters that people who actually buy and play smash would like to use.Rosterfaggotry is embarrassing beyond just the obvious reason of arguing about which kids game characters show up in a kids game crossover, but also because rosterfags legit don't even see Smash as a game, just as a platform through which "deserving" franchises receive acknowledgement and attention.
>>454546582>rather than characters that would be interesting or characters that people who actually buy and play smash would like to use.that's what I had in mind when making >>454543320. The only character that I didn't add due to how interesting they would be is Hades, who I purely added because I love the character, though I'm sure something really interesting could come from all the shit he does during his fights in KI:U.
Out of the way, patrician roster taste coming through.
>>454547021>removing K. Roolobjectively incorrect regardless of your other choices
>>454547207I didn't have K. Rool? Fuck, my bad dude. In my defense I spent a lot of time on that so I'm not surprised I forgot something like that.
>>454538139Add in a Pokemon Sword and Shield rep and I'd agree with you.
>>454539134Sceptile would make far more sense than Grovyle. Only autists care about Mystery Dungeon and Sceptile can Mega Evolve.
>>454540238Pokemon haters should be gassed. No way in hell Shitley and K. Drool would be prioritized in favor of Lucario and Greninja. Pokemon deserves to have the highest number of reps because no other franchise compares to it in influence and legacy. And having only Gen 1 Pokemon doesn't accurately reflect the long-lasting nature of the series. Pokemon has been around for over twenty years. It's time to move on from KANTOOOOOOOO.
>>454538139>no ghoul lord
>>454544036>not Kracko>not Marx>not Dark Matter>not Zero>not Void Termina>not Nightmare>Whispy fucking Woods
>>454538139I like how I can tell this was made before Ultimate
>>454543531I believe you mean a HEEHEE moment.
>>454547207K. Rool sucks ass and is overrated as a villain. Even his creator admitted he had a terrible name.
>>454549037Your shitty opinion aside, that complain doesn't exactly work when the guy's got Wart on his roster.
>>454544509Though he's kind of generic, I wouldn't mind Ghastly King as a boss.
>>454549683this would be fine too, though not my first pick
>>454539208Most based ITT
>>454539208wow, it's fucking nothing. The most boring roster yet.
>>454549037You don't understand British self deprecating humour my dude
>>454538139>no King HippoIT'S SHIT
>>454540681I am very high. Sorry. But what is the answer to the question? Because i actually dont know the answer. I am also listening to nintendo lo fi. It's amazing. Shmagadagga!
Patrician Coming through
>>454538992>still believing that there's set rules for newcomers
>>454538139>Still pushing the King Boo memeAh, rosterfags never fail, do they?
>>454539208Remove Steve, Bandanna Dee, and Tingle and add in Maria Liteyears, Jill Dozer and Adeleine and it would be perfect.
>>454548352What influence? There are like 2 other monster collecting series
I agree for the most part. Only Spyro would make this better.
>>454546514>The VGAs>A collection of actual devs announcing and accepting awards>not meaning anythingYou can disagree with their picks, anon, but it's the official awards show for games.
>>454556024Remove or replace the substitute doll and it's actually perfect
>>454538139>>454538327>>454539208>>454543320>>454556024>Itsnotaphasemom the Hedgehog, Eggcrap and Hatsune Miku>before Arle, Ringo or Kiryuu>>454541071Is that my Daugther Caro?
>>454538327>Anna who is basically the mascot of the series isn't in smash yetWho the hell is picking these characters
>>454538139>no royIts shit