I honestly can't think of a sadder existence than a Dark Souls player who sits around the same area invading over and over again just to ruin the experience for players who just want to play the game.
>>446413936I can:Getting killed by one repeatedly and making a complaint thread on /v/ out of frustration.
>>446413936>Restore humanity/kindle self so you can summon friendly phantoms>Get mad that doing this game breaking thing has a down side to counteract against the steep drop in difficulty.
>>446413936There's an offline mode for a reason
>>446413936as an average dark souls player who has been killed by the vast majority of invaders i've encountered, i hope they never go away because they add a spark to the atmosphere of the game.
>>446413936As someone who played DeS offline and only dabbled in multiplayer in all Souls games (invading/being invaded), WHO THE FUCK CARES? It's part of the game, this is not some super serious, balanced multiplayer game, it's what you make of it, the weird multiplayer is part of what makes these games unique, either accept it or play something else.
>>446414059>>446414243>>446414276>>446414279>>446414330>It's supposed to be shitty!either invaders or fromsoft cocksuckers, probably both
The saddest existence would have to be living with the fact you can never git gud.
>>446414437>i played online in a souls game and then cried because a meanie invaded me
>>446414437Why do you not just play offline to avoid the multiplayer elements like you would in any other game?
>>446414437You didn't read a single one of those posts, did you.
>>446414437play offline or deadyou have two choices, baddie
>>446413936>implying griefing and ruining people's days isnt one of the most fun things to dolmao cuck, i remember making tons of nerds like you cry when i invaded in demon's souls in 2-1 with my scraping spear
>>446413936Kek. Get dung pied you faggot on ultra settings
I spend at least 3 hours a day invading scrubs like you :)
>>446413936>exploring area>gear is a mish-mash of what I've picked up and what feels fun/cool>buying gear.spells and building stats to help me survive PvE>suddenly invaded by goofy name guy>he's decked out in super gear>completely min-maxed PvP build>giant glowing sword>adding fifty buffs >doesn't get aggroed by enemies>has done this a million times so knows how to play around the ridiculous lagOh, and he can Estus now. So much fun. Dark Souls invaders are literal manchildren who get off on meaningless power trips, and people always use "muh difficult game" to excuse such poor design.
>>446413936You are one giant pussy.
>>446414798I still get hatemail in Bloodborne for using my op bloodtinge build
>>446414798PVP duels are one thing, this was just you being an annoying shitter.
I don't like Dark Souls 2 as much but invading in that was more fun with my bullshit builds. I felt like a fucking monster.
>>446414891LMAOOOOOOOOO MAD AS FUCK HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH
>>446414926>duelszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz who gives a fuck about boring shit like that ill play a fighting game if i want a fair test of skillfag
posting about it on /v/ instead is a little more sad lmao>only now JUST playing DS1>complain that people know how to playI picked up Street Fighter, but I keep losing! Do these virgins really just sit around all day doing nothing!?!?!?!
>>446413936I meanI could be you making this thread
>>446415065Duels are fine.
>be me>play weak spear build>invade DS in the ghost area>never attack, just shake my spear and dance like a cavemonkey>hosts get too stressed and kill themselves by jumping off bridfw>act friendly to hosts that want to fight>backstab once guard is dropped>dont kill because bad build>run away and dance with spear at a distanceFucking loved this game
>>446415282they're trash for reddit cucks
This brings me back.Remember when the PC release came out and we had daily Capra/O&S threads? ARTIFICIAL DIFFICULTY?
>>446414926>NO YOU ARE NOT BEING HONORABLE YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO BOW FIRST I WASN'T READYFuck off, honorfag. The invade system is designed to let people be assholes.
>>446415129>comparing a game that's specifically designed and ONLY allows 1v1 combat to an action RPG about exploration and slow, methodical combat>>446414957Yeah, that's what I imagine most invaders are like. My router sits right next to my comp. Flipping that switch is so satisfying. Used to feel better when invading required a consumable resource.
>>446414891Sounds like a unique experience, not many single player games like that would be cool to experience that, and hey if it got annoying I could just not go into human form/online, woah.
Imagine making this thread and expecting not to get roasted
>>446413936What's with all the Dark Souls threads all of a sudden? Is it just a coincidence?
>>446415330Oh yeah. PC gamers are the biggest shitters known to man. Remove their ability to quick save and watch how they bitch and cry.
>>446415454>Used to feel better when invading required a consumable resource>what are save backups>what is CEOH NONONO NONO HAHAHAHAHAHA
>>446413936Invaders can be okBut if some faggot invades me then uses the level enemies against me or is a twink, they shouldn't have the gall to complain when i summon an army of cooperators
>>446415407So you admit that he was in fact being an annoying asshole? What was the purpose of this post?
>>446414437Jesus temper tantrum much? Why do you get so angry at a video game?
>>446415454So invasion are an exploit since the game supposedly wasn't designed with invasions in mind? If that is the case, why are most covenants designed around PVP?
>>446415663>MOMMY SOMEONE WAS MEAN TO ME IN A VIDEO GAME ABLOOBLOOBLOOlmao
>Invader then>menancing player, ready to make any player existence a complete nigthmare>Inaveder now>Huge faggot that will start chugging and rolling towards the enemies after you land a single hitWhat happened?
>>446413936Invaders only pissed me off when they hide in mobs that block your path and continuously run from fights, thats why I wait for them to get right in the middle of some enemies before I bust out the giant seed and watch them get ganked
>>446413936I have a genuine noob question around this topic (to give context, I recently beat the dual-boss of Anor Londo): are you supposed to be a human the majority of your play time? Since you can't get invaded while hollow, invading can only be an issue if you're in human form a large portion of your playtime. Now, the issue I have with this is that I am simply not able to retain human form for a very long time due to frequent deaths, so invading couldn't really be a problem for me even if I wanted so.So how could invasions ruin anyone's experience, if you can simply go hollow to avoid it?
The reason shitters hate dueling existing is because it leaves randoms with enough PvP experience to become unbulliable in invasions.
>>446413936You forgot people who complain about invasions despite playing the only franchise in which they're a feature.
>>446413936A lot of it is grinding for covanent items. But if you play on pc, you run into a lot more hackers.
>>446415803fromsoft started cattering to shitters like OP and nerfed invasions to the grounddas3 invasions were fucking trash
>>446415847>are you supposed to be a human the majority of your play time?Yes, that allows you to get invaded by NPCs
>>446415407>The invade system is designed to let people be assholes.It's actually designed to let people do what they want to each other.
>>446415945>das3 invasions were fucking trashhmmm sorry sweety but that's wrong :)
Look OP >>446415847 just started dark souls and can already see through your bullshit reasoning.
>>446413936I'm glad they exist, because invadersions add to the game, but I do wonder sometimes what their life is like. They just sit there waiting in the same area, and some will do it for days.>tfw doing NG+ a week later and running into the same invader in the same location
>>446415803They added estus and streamers like oroboro made being asshole in the game more popular.
>>446415946...and, why would I want them?
>>446416132>They just sit there waiting in the same area, and some will do it for days.True. Need my dopamine rush bro
>make a soul level one character>buy a shit ton of indictments>invade burg, drop indictment and act friendly for a while>they pick up the indictment and i one shot them>99% of them indict me >rise up the indicted ranks
>>446413936Sounds like you got invaded and lost.
>>446416226Plot and items.
>>446415721No, the levels, progression, and flow of the game weren't designed with PvP in mind. PvP was an after thought thrown in at whim. It's been refined with each iteration, but it still remains wholly removed for whatever the level designers wanted and area's experience to be. There is nothing well-designed about being invaded just I mysteriously aggro three creeps in a different room.>>446415803It's always been like than minus the chugging. Invaders were never honorable. They were always assholes. Scared, cowardly assholes.
>>446415998PKs GET OUT
>>446416030compared to DeS where you could break people's shit and delevel them they wereconstantly fighting 5v1s ganksquads wasnt really fun in das3, one of the reasons i lost interest in a DeS remake, i just know fromsoft will go full carebear modethankfully souls is a thing pf the past and only a couple retards still care about it
>>446415847No. Going human expends humanity and you should only use it as you see fit. Even with later areas being completely free of invaders, inexperienced player is likely to die often enough to make popping humanity unnecessarily a bad idea.When you are experienced enough that retaining your humanity feels easy you can do it.
>>446413936Why are you running around in human form if you don't want to be invaded?If you really want to play in human form for NPC invasions or something but don't want human invaders, why not play in the offline mode they provide you?
>>446413936>just to ruin the experienceThere are certains items you can only get through online interactions like invading. The game rewards for partaking in it, it's part of the experience. Just play offline if you don't want to get invaded
>>446416435Cherrypicking, exageration, bitterness : The Post
>>446416405I remember seeing the trailer for that game in school and even though I knew nothing about the series I thought it was the coolest shit.
>>446415847There are usually buffs you get for staying in whatever mode allows invasions. In Dark Souls' predecessor, Demon's Souls, the price was much steeper to remain offline (half your max health). Going human in DaS gives you access to friendly summons, including NPC summons (some of which NEED to be summoned during certain boss fights to progress their quest line), and an invisible, increased luck factor based on excess humanity consumed.
>*points down*ok, thanks for confirming you're underage
>>446415323this is every person who whined about soul memory
>>446413936>human form/online>mad at invaders
>>4464163981v1 me outside irl
>dark souls 3>invade someone>they are always in a team with multiple phantoms near the fog gatecan't people kill bosses without going full ez mode?
>>446413936>Knee deep in a new area with tons of souls and no shortcut/bonfire in sight>Suddenly get invaded when you have 1 estus left>Get ganked by random enemies + over leveled invader who has nothing to lose>Meanwhile you lost all your progress and souls
>>446414437Summoning friends drastically reduces the challenge of the game. Invaders balance that out by giving the enemies an intelligent form of reinforcement. If you can't overcome the invader together, that's your own fault and you need to decide whether you're going to try it again with a summon or go it alone so you don't have to face that invader a second time.Invading meanwhile adds longevity to the game for the people who invade. It's fun for fun's sake and the rewards are decent. It's even more fun when people like you get ass blasted.
>>446414059Fucking first post, best post.
>>446417087THIS is the average invasion experience. Invaders make it sound like they're only fighting seasoned players with PvP builds. Stop pretending there's any honor in it. You're all scumbags who get a sick thrill from ruining other players' experiences.
>>446416132Time zones exist, you're not gaming at the same time as them by chance.Usually, you take a character and bring it them to an area you want to invade in. With red eye orb and matchmaking server you go through quite a lot of online play in just a hour.
>>446413936Being invaded doesn't ruin anything, it's exciting
>>446414926PVP duels are shit. Invaders are supposed to be INVADING another player's session and creating an unpredictable gamd of cat and mouse. Greatbowing people off rooftops, scraping spear, closing shortcuts in Cathedral Ward, that is the essence of invasions.
>>446417281>join Blue Sentinels to help counter dick bag invaders>get summoned to some random scrub being hounded >immediately engage invader>scrub player then proceeds to go through the level normally as I 1v1This happened three times, once with a Sunlight summon ALSO ignoring the invader and me and just trucking ahead. Shit was so aggravating.
>>446417610>can't kill enemy face to face>has to resort to petty tricks to winhaha :)
>>446417460I know how it works, but running into the same person at the same spot running the same build a week or two later when it's not even a popular dueling spot is just weird.
>>446415282>>446415484They're not a substitute for invasions though. The experience isn't anywhere near the same. I want to run through the whole level tormenting the host or being chased by them as we both seek the best opportunity to pull one over on each other.
>>446417610Or you can force a poor noob into dueling you without any unfair gear and get them excited that there's PvP in the game.
>>446417715Don't you understand? He's adding an element of unpredictability to a player's game experience. NOT ruining it.
>>446417715>too scared of enemy's ambush>I will stand on a bridge and wait for a duelso brave :)
>>446417818Yes I too want to annoy people who risk losing their progress and souls whilst I have nothing to lose
>>446417715>invader already has less health and healing options to begin with
>>446417746Why would someone who wants to invade do so at a dueling spot? People who invade don't want honor duels. They want to invade.
>>446417818>They're not a substitute for invasions thoughSummons? Fucking dumbass.
This is just a gayme. Why be so mad about it?
>>446417954>risk losing their progress and soulsYes, that's the appeal of Dark Souls. If you don't like that risk, why the fook are you playing. Also there's an in-game way to prevent invasions, you that if you're too scared
>>446417954It's a completely different gameplay experience and you can't refute that.
>>446417669But that is a-okay. Do you not remember in the first Dark Souls the attitude where, if you were summoned, you are there to help the host at all costs. If the host died, that was a failing on your part.
>>446417746that's not weird, they blend into the sequence of the game like NPC invaders. it adds to the atmosphere. you should honestly be grateful that there are people out there who are willing to add content to your game.
>>446417823I honestly find it boring when I get an invasion message and realize I have to run to the designated PvP zone to get rid of the invader. It's more fun being unsure where they are. Every enemy suddenly feels 10x more dangerous.
>>446417818>fight back an invader>he runs away behind enemy lines>now I'm forced to go through the level without being able to access a bonfire while some douche bag hides in the shadows and waits for me to engage a mob before going for a back stabThere's nothing fun or exciting about it. It's you putting a player on edge while they're risking everything and you're risking nothing.
>>446417883>>446417932>>446417982Spotted the shitters. Good at griefing, shit at playing
>>446418067Dealing with the host's summons is a part of the fun. "Dumbass."
>>446413936>Mound makers>Composite bow build>Hiding in the nooks around the Ringed City Staircase towards the bog>Bootybother the host with poison from above while he's trying to fight the fatties>Wait for 2 reds/2 blues to invade>Dance the tarantula around the clusterfuck throwing darts at random targets
>>446418250Wow, the stupid incel tries to make a point... cute :)
>>446414798Why 2-1? 3-2 or 5-2 was where it's at.
>>446418137You people keep saying "hurrr but it's a different gameplay experience!!" doesn't mean that it's good. You're the one who invaded me, you should get completely ass fucked if you lose, not me
>>446418169It is not normal for a person to spend their life sitting in one location nonstop for weeks at a time with the exact same character and build.Maybe they just keep the game running while they're talking to people outside the game or something, but I worry about people sometimes.
>>446418357But he's right. The only way invaders have an argument is if they stop complaining about running into 3v1 gangbangs. They probably enjoy it, the damn cucks.
>>446417818Diablo 2 PVP was pretty similar, you could steal gear iirc.
>>446417669Get used to it blue, you're going to learn that most hosts are far worse than reds.
>>446414437Just play offline if you don't like it. I like having a mad man hunt me as I try to make my way in the level. Bonus points if he's not an honorabru duelist and finds creative ways to try and kill me.
>>446417954The nice thing about Demon's Souls was that you could still unlock shortcuts even with an invader in the game. I do hate reaching a fog door or bonfire only for it to become inaccessible suddenly. Would be nice if you could at least light bonfires.
>>446414613Because then his friends can't carry him
>>446418427stay mad piss baby
>>446413936being invaded is fun if you don't fucking suck
>>446418221>I make up my own competitive league rules for a game that runs online like a paraplegic acrobat
>>446414798Scraping spear was such a dick weapon in a game with inventory limit.
>>446415454You do realize I get a half chub whenever someone gets mad enough to disconnect from being invaded right?
>>446415803You called 3 friends 30 levels higher than the invader
>>446418221Invading and the use of underhanded tactics is playing. It is also usually more difficult to be successful at than duelimg, which limits the viablity of weapons and has predictable rules in place on a flat terrain.>>446418357Cringe.>>446418207You have the advantage as the host. You can summon, and your health and healing options are not restricted. Depending on the game, you can use a giant seed and make the enemies aggro them. You don't even need to kill the invader, you just need to reach the boss. If you can't find a way to manage against an invader, it's their win and you need to accept that.
>>446418917You can light bonfires in DaS3 with an invader. Just no resting. At least I did with a mad phantom. Not sure if it makes a difference.
ds3 invading used to be fun until they opened the gates to the chinks, now literally at least half of the people you invade are cheating
>>446416394>Whole areas are designed so that people automatically invade you if you step into them>This happens in all 3 dark souls games>HURR THE GAME ISN'T DESIGNED FOR INVASIONSNeck yourself
>>446418427If that were the case then the invader would need more of a reward. You're the one with a shit perspective. Invaders have less to lose and less to gain out of it. As far as you're concerned they're just another enemy, albeit an intelligent and unpredictable one. Outside of Bloodborne, invaders DO lose their souls when they die, they need to pick them up like anyone else.
I didn't invade much in 3 because I found the level design really boring and the MLGS/s beam was fucked up.
>>446413936Same. I always Point Down on invaders no matter what.
>>446418556Nothing abnormal about it. Players will often make builds specifically to invade their favorite areas.
>>446419706same my friend hahadamn daniel!!
>>446418556>It is not normal for a person to have funwhat a sad way to live
>>446418207That's literally the fun of you. You are playing a psycho murderer that goes into other dimensions to steal people's soul FFS. How you do expect them to be honorable.
Invaders are supposed to do whatever that fuck they want that they find fun.There is nothing wrong with invaders that want to try to have a duel with the host and face them in the open, or jump in with a theme build that is barely usable.The idiots are the ones that try to put any expectations or rules on the invaders instead of understanding they get to play however they want just like you.
>>446420001I can't help it if bug people scare me.
>>446419365This is the only good complaint in this thread, and it's not even against the system but against faggot hacker.
>>446420001>cant use weapon>blames weapon
>>446419171>mad enoughYou assume I'm mad. Just annoyed. Like a mosquito buzzing around my ear. It's not big effort to extend my hand and press the button. But keep imagining your fantasy world where every invasion results in a raging nerd getting pissy and slamming his keyboard. I'm sure it makes it more enjoyable for you.
In order to succeed in invasions consistently, the invader MUST be better at the game than the players being invaded. If you are beaten by an invader, they outplayed you.
>>446420732>what is twinking
>>446419585The NPC invasions happen in areas where there's room to fight and no enemies to interfere. The only exception I can think of is that one finger NPC that invades while you're fighting a bunch of crabs. But even then, she leaves you alone if you run to a different area. The fact that they can de-aggro and play by the same rules as other enemies is what make them sufferable. And yes, because a dev chose to put them there, it's an intentional design meant to compliment the level.
>>446414243Summons aren't always available retard, you know this. And you can't "learn" from invaders like you can from enemies because it's another person with their own style of play and build.
>>446420501It should work with lock-on, it's fucking dumb how it didn't and the range was too small as well.
>>446420635Mmmmhaha yeess these PLEBIANS invading MY game are all getting what's coming to them haha I have naught but to lift a finger and stare at an error message and HUZZAH they are gone! Ohumhemhemhemhahaha I bet they're VERY upset that I outplayed them so handily!
>>446413936git gud faggoti get invaded all the time and almost always win; the vast majority of invaders are actually pretty fucking retarded
>>446413936Friend of mine was a first time Souls player, starting on DS3 for some reason. He asked me and some other friend to help him along the way, just for fun, and we used our leveled characters. However, since he was a beginner, the game de-leveled us so much it became impossible to kill twinking invaders. 4 consecutive parries with hornet barely got a guy to half health. Pure retardation
>>446420886I'm talking about areas like DS1 forest, DS2 bell tower, DS3 Faron Keep. You literally summon player invaders that need to defend the area just by stepping in it. Now tell me again how the devs didn't intend for players to invade when they made whole areas where it happens automatically?
>>446420849Legitimate practice, unless some fag dropped all of the end game gear for them. Host still has the advantage of summons and can ignore the invader to run for the boss.
>>446414276This. If you don’t want invasions, turn off pvp faggot.
Invading sens around launch back in 2011 was a fucking blast. Stay mad, nerd.
>>446421179>ignore invader and run to boss>aggro every mother fucker in the map>get caught by one errant enemy attack>invader catches up for the backstabIt's so easy. Why doesn't everyone do it?
>>446414891Become better, newbie.
>>446413936>just to ruin the experience for players who just want to play the game.That's the whole point of pvp in literally every game with pvp ever though.
>sl1>99 dung pies>99 poison darts>poison mist>invade the burg throwing shit at people causing toxic and poison they cant cure and likely cant out heal>if they have summons run up the ladder and wait on the other side to throw shit at them as they come up>have a show on so u can wait forever>if this gets boring got a +15 bandits dagger with hornet ringJesus christ this was the most fun shit.
are the embers you get after defeating a boss different to consumable embers? i was never invaded while under an ember i got from completing a boss.
What was their problem?
>>446422125No. If you're Embered, it doesn't matter how you got it. You're probably lucky/too high a level for the usual invaders in the area/too low a level/play at odd times.
>>446414798Scraping spear is the greatest souls weapon, you didn't even have to win to ruin someones day.
>>446422125DS3 invasions prioritize hosts with phantoms, the more they have the more likely they are to be invaded. Solo hosts rarely ever get invaded outside of Farron/Aldrich zones.
>>446414798i don't get the hate for SS. Shit was literally free to kill. fucking hilarious when people tried to scrape dbs or a great axe with a gajillion durability only to get literally 2-shot even with sc
>>446422295weird. I only completed the game recently and I was only invaded twice in Irythll before and after Sulyvahn. I definitely wasn't overleveled, maybe there's just less people playing the game? at any rate both encounters were lame, I just went into the boss when I got invaded the first time. after Sulyvahn i was invaded again and the dude killed me even though his character's swing wasn't even remotely close to my hitbox. it was just a laggy mess.
>>446418427Why are you playing dark souls if you don't like dark souls?
>>446422615>DeS>str buildThat's like 0.2% of the userbase.
>>446422676I got the game after the Winter Sale and have been invaded pretty consistently. A lot of invaders tend to get on after big sales to prey on the scrubs because, ya know, they're assholes.
>>446413936It's fun. Sometimes I'll invade and if it's a solo host and I can tell he's a newfag sometimes I'll just hide throughout the level and don't even attack. Just the fact of them knowing I'm there watching and they don't know where I am and it's psyching them out knowing I can pop up around a corner at any moment. Sometimes they'll even message me asking where I am and I can feel their anxiety grow as I ignore their message and they don't know what to do. Then that 'disconnected from host' message pops up and I know they're sitting their at their home screen breathing heavily about to have a nervous break down but it was their only escape. And my dick becomes diamonds knowing I halted their gameplay experience, making it a nightmare.
>>446422615No one hated it, it was just fun to use and was memetic.
>>446423083Jesus fucking Christ, invaders really are retarded.
>>446420924And you don't always get invaded. And you can scrub out invaders because they're liable to mistakes/don't read your moves like AI does.
>DeSChanging back to body form is automatic after killing a boss and it's required if you want your maximum health bar back>DS1Being human is required to kindle bonfires. A beginner player might get invaded unjustly for using this mechanic>DS2Human effigies are required if you want to restore your maximum health. And I don't know about Scholar, but the original DS2 had invasions enabled if you're hollowed or not, so fuck it >DS3Embering is automatic after beating a boss and is required if you want your maximum health bar back. I'd imagine this is why they made invasions prioritize hosts with phantoms, but it's a shit solution and creates another problemIn all of those games, except Bloodborne, you may accidentally open yourself up to invasions just for making use of single player mechanics that don't break the game's difficulty
>>446413936I wish there was a way to be able to be summoned but not invaded and not allowed to summon people into your game.
>tfw got invaded at the cathedral of the deep during my first playthrough>getting my ass handed to me by enemies and low on estus, try to sprint back to the bonfire>run past my invader on the way>bonfire is blocked by a fog wall>invader catches up with me and stares me down>sees that im a scrub trying to scramble to safety>slowly walks towards me and drops an item on the ground doing the 'point down' gesture>i pick it up>its an ember>i was such a scrub i couldn't even into gestures so just spun my character around a few times and did a roll after picking up the item>he waves and then returns to his worldit was honestly one of the best moments i've had in an online video game. if you're reading this then thanks bro
>>446423569>breeze through the rest of the game barely taking any damage>get banned randomly for hacking my game
Ops misery sounds like fun. Im pretty sure I kicked the asses of a few invaders like this in deS. I think id like to be the source of op's ire.
>>446423569Someone post the webm of the host pretending to be a scrub at the oolacile township bonfire but parries and one shots the red instead.
>>446423776why are you replying to me
>>446423549Is that really a weird thing to want? I just want to help other people, but I don’t want anybody in my game whether they are a summon or an invader.
>>446422902?strength cw builds like crushing mirdan hammer, gaxe, DBS, and guillotine were all very popular and very good. they were more popular than magic and even shit like bbs
in nearly any game with a multiplayer aspect, pvpfags are the most obnoxious other than furries and rpers
>>446416774the only reason I use this gesture is cause people like you actually get upset by it
>>446413936Why is this image so funny
>>446413936Dickishness was what made gaming great and addictive.Asserting your dominance over another Human being, knowing they have tried everything and failed to repel your advances.Hence, FPBP >>446414059
>>446423972Only game where this won't work is Dark Souls 2. Stay hollow in 1 and you won't get invaded but can place your sign. In 3 stay unembered and still place your sign. Or just make sure the boss is defeated where you're trying to co-op.
>>446414059This. I used to be a fag like OP but then I realised how fun it is just to fuck with people.
>>446413936Thanks for almost 70 hours of non-stop fun with the Remaster, I guess.
>>446413936BADS = MAD! SIMPLE AS THAT STAY MAD!
>>446424480>poise buildpoor guy
>>446422765 Because PVP is just a bonus? I play dark souls to have fun trying new builds and challenging myself, if someone invades, cool, but but pvp is like 1% of the gameplay.
>>446424287Yeah you are right. I find it annoying that in 3 you are embered for beating a boss or helping beat a boss. I usually just end up trading all my embers to my friends for their unique weapons they don’t want.
>>446425042>pvp is like 1% of the gameplayliterally it's the opposite but whatever makes you feel "safe" guy, enjoy the comfort zone try not to burn yourself on the hot chocolate.
>>446422765Not him, but I play Souls games almost exclusively for the boss fights.
>>446413936This thread made me want to play dark souls again.
>>446425316the bosses and npc enemies are just their to practice against and learn, the real game is fighting against a human same as a chess match.
>>446414891Learn to parry, causal.
>>446417404agree ive been on the other side and i legit feel bad after killing these people. but not enough people do lvl 1 builds for coop and i get lonely
>>446413936>replay Dark Souls Remastered>Get invaded by Sorcerer that tried to kite me through mobs in Darkroot Garden>Killed him>Get invaded by GiantDad that tried to cheese me in Sen's Fortess>Killed him>Get invaded by naked dungthrower in New Londo>Killed them after chasing him for 10 minutes>Get invaded by guy who ran away to hide in Oolacile >Spent 20 minutes searching for him and killed himWhy does everything have to be cheese? ...and shouldn't cheese strats actually work? I miss 1v1s
>>446426351that's funny since i consider level 1 as "the real game" basically, like being a normal human up against gods with shitty weapons. its fucking awesome. but i wont play with you, i hate people and i hate you too. we have nothing in common other than a fleeting shared pasttime and that's not enough to put up with knowing other people.
>>446423373Beat the area boss first.
>>446425960Kek. Blues are always free estus.
>>446413936Show us where the bad man touched you op.
>>446417669If you're a blue, then you should be aware that if friendly fire was on then the hosts would kill you.
>>446414891obtain skill, scrublord
>>446426614you’re probably a fag that plays on the pc anyway so i wouldnt want to play with you anyway. and yes lvl 1 is a serious playthrough but when it comes to coop with randoms it sucks. the majority of the people just arent doing these sorts of things so by the time you get to the depths theres maybe like 1 person in 12 hours of gameplay. any further than that and theres nothing.
>>446427161HAHA no i'm l337 as fuck so i play on ps4 dipshit. you probably play on xbox nigger.
invading/getting invaded is fun but unfortunately the netcode is way too shitty so eventually youre playing the jank-net-metagame
>>446415454you do realize that I count unplugs as a win, right?
>>446414891I understand this to a degree>Start a fresh character>Get invaded by super geared meta build guy called 'Daddy'>He's dogshit though>I backstab him twice and even parry and riposte>Except I do ZERO FUCKING DAMAGE>He starts swinging randomly>I block and it staggers me>Kills me with second hit>Starts BM-ing meJust need to accept that its part of the game, I was a little tilted but the fact that I knew that he knew he was getting owned and his min-max build saved him made me a little less salty.
>>446414891Why did you let him get the buffs off? And there are no pvp builds. It's literally just good builds or bad builds.
>>446415803Fromsoft gimped invaders
>>446425236>literally it's the opposite but whatever makes you feel "safe" guy,PvP has always been the smallest part of the game, I got invaded less than ten times in my entire first play trough of dark souls 3, with 76 hours of total play time, does pvp really looks like the major part of the game for you? Sorry that you got butthurd that dark souls is a pve game first, pvp game second.
>>446413936I didn't choose the invader life, the invader life chose meI will never forget my days haunting the Cathedral, facing down a host and his phantoms, ten minute long running battles that takes place across the entire level, using every trick in the book, wearing them down while being worn down myself, dropping from ledges, setting ambushes, abusing terrain, utilising escape routes, the whole invader arsenal. The best kind of emergent gameplay, first person PvP that actually requires strategy, rather than purely tactics and skill.I like to think that the hosts I fought came away richer for it. Even if they didn't exactly find what occured 'fun', I hope that I gave them an experience that they would remember, one that would motivate them to get better so that they could put up a better fight, or maybe even beat me next time I or one of my invader brothers faced them down. I never wanted to discourage anybody or ruin the game. That's not what a true invader is about. A true invader takes satisfaction in frustrating the hosts efforts because he understands that he is there to make the game difficult, to serve as a balance, and if he does his job well, the game will be as hard as intended regardless of how many phantoms the host has. That's what it means to be an invader. You hurl yourself into blatantly unfair fights so often that you come to relish the challenge, it's just not fun unless you can pretend you're a miniboss for the host and his friends to crash against.
>>446427356believe it or not ps3 here
>>446427726>there are no PvP buildsSpoken like a true idiot.>>446427702I've fought plenty of invaders that purposefully let themselves get shit early because they know they can get away with it.
>>446421384just stop being bad, you casual piece of trash
>>446425042You are playing literally the only franchise where you need to worry about invasions. If you don't like them play something else
>>446414059This. If it is your first time playing a souls game you should be playing the entire thing hollow anyways. No one can invade you unless you are actively choosing to play as unhollowed so there is literally no fucking excuse to whine about invaders.
>>446428032Or he could just play offline, the true way to play the game.
This is a fantastic bait thread
>>446427447>loses consumable >gets booted from world>invaded player just continues playing non-plusSounds to me that that unplugs just make you feel irrelevant. Don't be salty, dude. I'm sure you're good at something else.
>>446413936Dark souls has been always for insecure insufferable incels, I don't know why you get surprised
>>446415803No one was ever honorable, they just liked to meme that they were. The amount of times an invasion would have a double bow only to devolve into Estus chugging and fleeing to get summons equals the number of stars in space.
>>446427849My god, I'm honestly jealous. I wish I had the capacity to excuse blatantly asshole behavior with some existential philosophy. No really, people like you are the same ones that say they're only jerks to people to prepare them for people with worse intentions than you. Piss off.
>>446414798>calling other people nerds while he strokes his cock thinking about how he beat people in a video game
>>446417669A lot of players still hold onto the retarded '1v1 honorabu duels at the bonfire' bullshit.If I invade you, and a blue sentinel comes in, I want you to gank the SHIT out of me if you can. Don't feel bad about it! I asked for this! I'm invading under the understanding that you are free to do whatever you can to get me out of your world, because I am an antagonist. You don't want me here! That's the point! I'm not there to duel, I'm there to invade.If this happens to me, I tend to start prioritising the host and running from the blue.
>>446427849This. You’re there because From wants you to be.
>>446428032because there are other games that are identical to souls other than invasions, right?
>>446413936That’s half the fun of these games Too bad casuals like you can’t into itAlso you can gank and troll the invaders that’s also pretty fun
SL1, 2h blacksmiths giant hammer, invade burg
>>446428405Who hurt you anon? You know you can play offline right?
Played all Soulsbornes offline because I won't pay PS online just for one game and the rest I piratedNo regrets, forces you to get good because no summons
>>446415318These are my favorite invaders.
>>446427991You can usually tell the kids that have copied a build/strat straight from a website from an invader with good pvp skills that wants to be underestimated though. I don't think it would have mattered either way, I couldn't have beaten him. I would have had to land about 40+ backstabs without ever taking a hit with the build he had. Kinda reminded me of when level 80's used to kill level 30's in WoW. Nothing can be done.
>>446413936invading in and of itself is fine, something that was at the time a unique gameplay feature to set the series apart, people who twink on the other hand are a bunch faggots that deserve to be lynched
>>446413936>I honestly can't think of a sadder existence than a Dark Souls player Shit games.
>>446428032>You are playing literally the only franchise where you need to worry about invasions Whats there to worry about? Invasions almost never happen for most people, the number of players increased but since ds1 the areas have been getting ever shorter, with bonfires out of the ass and fast travel enabled from lv1, you need to actually put some effort into getting invaded. You guys talk as if every player was engaging in pvp every single second of their playtime, when in truth pvp is just that, a bonus, if I get invaded on my way to the boss, cool, if I do not, what I am missing? Nothing.
I love invading. It gives me that same feeling I used to get back when MMO's had open world PVP and open world faction warfare outside of instanced battlegrounds or arenas. Nowadays it's rare to see MMO's have that same level of interaction, which is truly saddening. It's not about ruining other people's fun, although I will admit it amuses me getting hatemail or people rage quitting or disconnecting. It's just the type of fun I enjoy. I love the negative side of online interactions. I still remember playing stuff like Lineage or Camelot and having massive wars and people having reputations for being bandits who go out into the wilds and hunt other players. Even being invaded is terribly fun. I get other people don't like that, but there are a multitude of ways to avoid it; playing offline, not embering etc. etc.I still remember playing WoW back in Vanilla and BC and having wars in Southshore. And everynow and again, a guy named Kroduk would arrive and people would instantly follow him because he'd use actual tactics to set up massive ganks and we'd usually win.The thing is, invading has gotten harder and harder as time has gone on. People might not remember this, but in Demon's Souls, it was possible to truly screw people over. I remember my first time fighting a scraping spear guy. It took me hours to get back all my lost progress. Then in Dark Souls 1, you could come up against literal immortal gods that could never be staggered and the backstab mechanics were so bad, that if you didn't know what you were doing, they could play with you to death. Dark Souls 2 had so much unbalanced bullshit, you could literally wear a mismatch of weird clothes and be immune to backstabs and tanky as fuck. Then oneshot someone with a stupid as fuck spinny weapon. Dark Souls 3 is probably the most balanced of the lot. I don't know why you'd complain about the easiest soul experience.
>>446428405You aren't getting my point. I'm not trying to make excuses.I invade because I find it fun as hell to be the archenemy. I'm not getting off on being an asshole, I'm getting off on the challenge that comes with fighting a host and his friends, using every invader tactic I know how to use. I HOPE that the host isn't discouraged from playing the game after I'm done. I HOPE that he finds the experience to be a motivational one. Hell, if he wins, I'm not going to hold a grudge, or be a bitch about it. He wanted me gone, so he got rid of me. He was smarter/better than me. Fair is fair.But you know what? If he doesn't, if he then rages like a bitch and quits the game in frustration, that's really not my problem.
Tell me about it, im just so good at killing shitters tho.
>>446428313>consumable>not being a darkwraithI shiggy diggy
>>446413936Dark souls invasion trolling is art, i am not even kidding. Do yourself a favor and check out the "kill of the day" series, they are all 1 to 3 minute long troll kills and truly special.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C3jJZNtr3Y
>>446430275Most invaders are surprisingly bad. I'm not gonna pretend I'm amazing. But after playing several playthroughs with Dried Finger and no given gear, I can sincerely say this. A lot of them are also incredibly stupid. Like falling for the most obvious bait over and over.I am an invader myself and it was extremely disheartening to learn this when playing with Dried Finger active, because I immediately realized that when I invade a gank, these are the kinds of invaders who I am getting as partners to help me kill the gank.It's infuriating to say the least.
Those moments of camaraderie with your fellow invaders when you're facing down a full party, and you're both experienced enough to not tread on each other's toes.Was there ever any better feeling? I think the lack of communication options made it so much more special when you did manage to co-ordinate properly anyway. Like you were just perfectly in sync with this total stranger because you had the same goal and had faced the same challenges.
>>446430817When they message you to inform you how much fun they had.
>>446430817>turning 3v1 into a 3v2>pegging the host with a shiv as he goes to hide behind his phantoms, killing him for 1 point of damage>other invader turns to me and claps as we fade out
>>446430817This is a good feeling. One of my favorites is nailing someone with a Lloyd's and seeing the failed chug animation just before you deal them the killing blow. So good.
>>446429013>People who twink on the other hand are a bunch faggots that deserve to be lynchedThisSomeone who targets lowbies while making themselves essentially immortal needs "GIT GUD NUB" branded on their face, be a fucking man and 1v1 him without resorting to min-max bitch builds.
>>446414059Red and basedpilled.
There's literally nothing wrong with twinkingif you got through the game by yourself with no help or having mules drop you gear
>>446417404>Stop pretending there's any honor in it.Who says I do faggot?
>>446413936play offline isteas of crying faggot
>>446423373Just be hollow? You don't need to be human to put your sign down. You can still summon people yourself, but>dude just dont summon lmao
>>446413936invasions are a fun mechanic the only problem with it is that hackers exist
I didn't really get invasions for a long time. I just thought it was griefing, and that's basically how I played it as well. It was Saint Riot who showed me that invasion didn't actually need to be about raw sadism.
>>446430763Most invaders have watched cheese strats or min-max builds on Youtube and they just want to copy it. I recently played through DS:Remastered from start to finished unhollowed and out of 30+ invades, I only died twice. It went like this.>They bm me>Parry them>They dieor>They bm me>They roll for a backstab and get hit by Black Knight Greatsword power attack as they come out of the animation>They die
My favourite area to invade has to be Irithyll Dungeon. So much tricky shit you can pull off.
I can't think of a sadder existence than getting rekt and coming to /v/ to bitch about it.
>>446432895What about someone coming on to /v/ to bitch about his bitching? That's doubly sad.
>>446432136After darkmooning for a while I eventually decided the real sinners were hosts and their armies of phantoms.
>>446431257What is that thing you and other people in thread do when they get the kill? Is it local teabag variation?
>>446434227Assuming that you've never played the game, it's just spamming L1 or left trigger which guards. Yes, it's basically just a teabag.
>>446414437>get invaded online>run closer to bonfire so you can easily pick up souls>get killed>respawn>long ass timer where you are immune to invasions begins>cinder up>run back to corpse and pick up meager amount of soulsWow omg being raped online is such a big deal waaaaaaah! I've litterally lost everything I had!
>>446416774why do people get mad at this?
Is the community on Ps3 still active? I might make a new build just for nostalgia's sake.
>>446423354Being invaded is always justified. You want a better bonfire? Sure, but the tradeoff is now you're open to invasion for a while.
>stepping into Halflight's room by everyone's surprise and help him dump the host and his three butt buddies as if its a monday night raw match I miss Boss invasions.
>invade low level zones like burg, sewers, bligh town, sens>Dusk crown and near full havel fat rolling with a fully upgraded lightning shield and 3 slots of force and one of wotg>just run up and melee people with the talisman.>fat as fuck so I'm slow as fuck>slap them with the shield to make them panic every now and then>start up the force spam if they turtle to guard break >Wotg any summons to death>if they put up with me enough to approach the boss gate, or I run out of force casts,kill myself after dropping a bunch of humanity for them>most players I invaded in PC we're using infinite health glitches though and just swinging Drake swords like mad>lure them to NPC's and make them attack each otherDark souls was shit, but boy was it fun to fuck around in.The only people who complain about Invaders are the same type that blame the game for any deaths they have.
>>446413936>ruiningIt enriches gaming experience, unless you're implying that invaders are impossible to take out.. If you don't want to get invaded play in fucking offline mode, it's readily available.
>>446415803>ready to make any player existence a complete nigthmareAnd running away towards enemies to heal isn't gonna make their experience a nightmare?
>>446430692>not linking the good one insteadhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cclr0EmNM
>>446424480>>446425020What are the best weapons in DS3?
>>446436923Depends on the situation. I know that for some players, if they can't see you they'll just group up at the bonfire for twenty minutes.
>>446415534Funny that all the best players play on PC, then. All the hardest challenge runs too.
>get bored of invading Blighttown on my Poison Barbarian build >decide to swing by /v/>find this thread>sudden urge to boot the game up again and go invade Anor Londo with my Silver Knight [Remember the rafters? Say hello to my Greatbow!]
>>446413936but this literally will happen once and then you aren't humanity-ized anymore so you can't get invaded twice in a row.
>>446437160>you they'll just group up at the bonfire for twenty minutes.That's why you always have to pack a ranged harass option. Even if it's just firebombs. Ya gotta chuck shit at them or snipe em. The best harrass is a Greatbow. Nothing gets people impatient faster than getting pancaked and losing 400 HP.
>>446430275what are your favorite weapons?
>play DS3>get invaded by the area with the giant tossing spears>retard tried to hide where giant is throwing spears>seed of giant tree>waive at the retardI love Seed of the Giant Tree soooo much
>>446437284>invading Blighttown on my Poison Barbarian buildAh, I see you are a man of culture as well.You should try invading the Depths with an egg head, butcher knife, and bandit set.
>>446436923you can make the other player a nightmare by not being a faggot too.
>>446413936>HE'S PLAYING THE GAME WRONG HE'S PLAYING THE GAME WRONG>unplugs ethernet cable when red man invades and doesn't play offline or hollowed because he wants his comfy co op but no red meanies>complains dark souls was easy
>Tfw you keep invading the same guy and rekt him constantly and after a time he just stops fighting and stays still to let himself be killed. Or >the absolute scrub that you rekt constantly and after a lot of invasions you clearly notice how he is trying to adapt and changes his playstyle Or >the host that hides behinds two phantoms, pops a giant tree seed and when you kill his buddies he disconnects.
>>446439397Actually no. Specifically, faggot behavior is the best way to be a nightmare. >>446439350I do both on the one build. It's also an egghead.
You know alot of people like getting invaded right
>>446414059Every thread on this fucking board is a race to see who can make the first epic comeback to derail OP's thread. This board is basically reddit
>>446413936They want to PVP. That is literally how you PVP. If you don't want to PVP, don't enter PVP mode. PVP mode is human form.
>>446437160Which is why you pull out your greatbow and take potshots at their idiot heads until they find their testicles and gather the courage to actually play the game.
>kill invader>estus flasks replenishvirgin careful dungeon crawler vs the chad reckless pvp tournament
>>446413936If I get invaded I just go and beat the boss. It is probably the easiest way to get rid of invaders.
>>446435590Are we talking ds1, if so couldn't you just kill yourself right after kindling and go back to hollow.
>>446441248New boss invasion exploit when
any twink guides?
>>446440469What does purple invasion mean? I had a purple nigger invade me and they didn't fight me at all, just ran around helping me kill monsters. I killed them anyways because I didn't trust them
I played EVE online and took a 2 year break and when I came back I saw the same players camping the same gate.
>>446442975a purple invader can't hurt monsters
>>446428492do you know where you are?
>>446442975Purple's goal is to kill host or x phantoms, where x is the number of other phantoms in the world I think
>>446443356>>446443513then what the fuck did i play???
Ds2 the bestuntil they fucked up the golfswing
>>446443356yes they can idiot
>>446428492That's exactly what video games are for
>>446413936>Play DS3 for the first time. Already in the swamps fighting giant crabs.>Someone invades me.>Literally never happened before.>Huh, where is he though?>Kill some hostile knights or whatever.>The last one took 30 seconds longer to kill.>Turns out it was the guy that invaded me.Anyone who thinks the system is shitty should play offline and/or go fuck themselves.The games are fun as fuck and the possibility of invasion adds to the experience. You never know what's gonna happen. You might get invaded or a spooky skellington is gonna jump your ass from the dark.>cracks open a can of Monster Zero SugarNow Crash Bandicoot 1. That's a game that's extremely hard and unforgiving.
>>446445995That was probably the npc invader. Did he disappear if the distance between you increased?
>>446443593>>446443856purple summons can hurt monsters, purple invaders can't
>>446445995Nah I'm pretty sure it was the real deal because his name was pretty usual, something like Sniperkiller69 or whatever.
>>446413936Isn’t that kinda half the point Dark souls would NEVER have gotten even a half as popular as it is without the threat of invasions and the whole part of the game surrounding it It’s why Seikiro will probably suck, probably, unless the gameplay is really top notch
>>446447007lol no, the online mechanics were never relevant, mostly because they never worked until ds3
>>446447478fuckin zoomers I swear to god
>>446448308not an argument retard, nobody gave or gives a fuck about the online mechanics of these games
>>446448857I don't believe you, because I was actually an adult in 2011, when Dark Souls came out and I remember why people were talking about it. The online mechanics are definitely part of it.
>>446414059good to see that /v/ is still shit
>>446449172yeah, people were talking about how broken and shitty the online mechanics were, the entire series gets its reputation and popularity from the singleplayer content being challenging
>>446432125Not in ps4
>tfw can enjoy both pve and pvp and don't sperg out over which is better
>>446449467actually they were saying that in spite of the mechanics being inconsistent and shitty, it was still the most fun they've had playing an online game. Don't try to rewrite history that you were barely even alive for.
Soulsborne invasions are the best fucking thing that happened to multiplayer in years.
>>446449790except that you are completely wrong
>>446435547I get invaded constantly in Ds3. Pontiff, Ringed city and High Wall are very populated. But I also get invaded a lot everywhere else. Ps4 BTW. Also I always play solo so I must assume that if you summon you will be invaded constantly. Farron keep is only populated on weekends for some strange reason
>>446450283not an argument retard
>>446415847Being human and carrying liquid humanity (number in circle by the health bar) provides a moderate boost to item drop chances.
There's only one thing that's completely unacceptable and it's these things.
>>446437406I only use:>fume ultra great sword>milwood bow>heavy caestus and a blessed caestusI run a sun princess ring, steel defense +3, havel +3, and ring of favour +3I use two spells, denial and blessed weapon (pure damage and more healing stack) Most importantly is dont be shit.
>>446449714this. the amount of salt in this thread lol