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>bfv is shit
>fans dont buy it
>fallout 76 is shit
>fans dont buy it
>2k18 is shit
>fans dont buy it
>new pokemon is shit
>millions of people buy it

How did pokemon become this unstoppable? Is pokemon the AAA of AAA franchises or something because its good but I dont know how people woke up everywhere except for gamefreak
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people needed something until Smash
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AUTISM on a scale close to mlp, we have a whole containment board for that series
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The vast majority of Pokemon fans are literally casuals. They don't care if it looks and plays like mobile game. They want to give Pikachu a haircut and pets.
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>>441891486
Pokemon’s cultivated a fanbase of drones is why
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>>441891761
This. It's manchildren and autists, usually the combination of both. They will literally buy anything related to it.
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it isn't shit though
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>>441891486
The new Pokemon game isn't shit though.
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>>441891486
Nostalgia and the desperation at needing a new game for the switch.
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Because it's actually good and only contrarians dislike it. Also nice bait.
/thread
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>>441891486
New pokemon isnt bad though.
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>>441892493
your taste is though
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>>441891486
GOfags, real fans won't buy this shit
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I would agree with if you were talking about usum or sun and moon. Lgep is good
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>>441892763
>muh real fans
>muh super serious children's rpg
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>>441892897
shitty bait.
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I can understand why people want it, they want to feel like they did when they had their first Gameboy and used to play pokemon on it. The series lost its soul when it got to the 3ds and became a snoozefest. Or maybe I just grew up.
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New Pokemon is fine though. Complete game. Look nice. Remake of Pokemon Yellow. New content.

It's not amazing, but it's fine. and fun.
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LGPE did have a sales drop compared to series standards though.
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>>441893089
>user score

Literally the most useless shit , it means nothing.
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It's better balanced than RBY and FRLG.
Trainers are allowed to evolve their pokemon in this game and the road to Fuscia has level 35-39s
No more level 26 pidgey every fight.
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>>441893294
Review score is higher too, retard. Learn to fucking read
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>>441893171
this

it has god tier QoL compared to most mainline games and is a decent time waster
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>>441893089
What bait? You proving nothing.
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>>441893452
>implying Gen 7 is anywhere near as bad as Let's Go Pee
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>>441893374
I'll address the rotten meat in the room first. 6 points isn't a big problem.
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>>441892897
Sun and Moon at least looked like they put effort into it. Albeit in the wrong places. LGPE is a shitty cashgrab mobile-tier game with a lazy 1:1 grid makeover, retarded controls, and almost no effort put into trying to make exploring kanto again fun like BW2 managed to do. The only way I can see people having fun is if they haven't explored kanto in decades, are desperate for a switch game, and are drugged to hell and back with nostalgia.
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>>441893374
And lgep has a higher review score than black and white 2. So who really is the retard using metacritic to judge a game quality
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>>441891486
Fuck if I know. The fact that people even buy switches boggles my mind.
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>>441893647
So you didnt play it? Because it's no where near a 1:1 Makeover. Anybody that played it know that.
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>>441893618
Right, I forgot review scores only matter when youre shoving BOTWs scores down everyone's throats
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>>441892658
>/threading your own post
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>>441893658
Why?
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>>441891486
20 years of constant presence in every form of media imaginable. TV, movies, card games, dolls, vidya, clothing, cereal, makeup, ANYTHING. If something exists, theres usually a version of it with pikachu's fat face on it. Autists, old people, children, normies, nastalgic young adults all have a large portion of people that love the shit out of pokemon. Game is a literal piece of shit in software form? People just want to play pikachu game. Show completely changes the design of EVERYTHING and makes everything soft, childish, and lame? People of all ages will swarm, despite it always being marketed for children. Its basically just another version of disney. Produces barebones media that anyone can get into, and fills it with icons that anyone on earth could recognize. And it has been like this for many people around the world's ENTIRE LIFE. You do the math gringo.
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>>441893838
I never claimed the score didn't matter you stupid faggot, also you're a paranoid moron I don't even post in zelda threads.
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>>441893763
>So you didnt play it?
Here it comes, every fucking time this is the first thing you retarded drones jump to even with your pathetic attempts at lies. It's like you're parroting every "argument" you see so you could desperately defend your purchase. It's fucking laughable.
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>>441891761
>>441892229
This is completely untrue, Pokemon is a massive franchise and their online fanbases that you see don't equal to shit compared to the amount of people that actually buy and play the games. LGPE was always going to sell well because Pokemon has zero competition. They will never be surpassed, Game Freak owns the genre. Pokemon could even just be the title of the genre because no other similar games are going to matter. Why would I buy BFV when COD:BO4 is better?

I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.

Even if Pokemon GO never happened Pokemon would still sell insanely well. It's the biggest franchise in the world and will be for decades.
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>>441893647
>1:1 Makeover
No. A lot of changes were made into the grid

>retarded controls
The controls are just fine. You throw Pokeballs by Tilting the controller and pressing A, otherwise in combat it's just Pokemon

Kanto is really fun to see in 3D with Misty and Brock helping you out.
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>>441891486
All of those games sold millions you fucking retard
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>>441891486
Maybe your opinion is not the popular one this time. Maybe people actually think this is a good game and you are in the minority.
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>>441894354
How am I a drone? Even in your example there is a ton of differences. And of course the layout will be similar, it's a remake of Yellow.
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>>441894460
>A lot of changes were made into the grid
If you can't see how they could've made kanto into a more natural world without a fucking grid ON THE FUCKING SWITCH then you don't have a fucking opinion.

>The controls are just fine.
No they aren't. Who's retarded idea was it to force you to use 1 joycon? Why is there no option to play with portable controls on docked and just use the joycon's gyro or analog stick to aim?
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>>441894354
>riding onyx
>flying charizard
I don't remember this in yellow
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>>441891486
Adult games:
Battlefield V
Fallout 76
2k18

Kid games:
Pokemon
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>>441893647
You got it backwards. They barely put effort into usum compared to lg. The capture chains and the interactivity with the Pokemon are really cool
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>>441894720
>game MUST be 3rd person over the shoulder
We get it, you love movies
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>>441891486
Because whereas people are starting to wise up to how shitty western franchises are becoming, nintendies will ALWAYS eat up whatever garbage they're given.
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>>441894796
>The capture chains and the interactivity with the Pokemon are really cool
Go away, Masuda.
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>>441894354
where's the image comparing sevii islands to a big fucking heap of nothing? Who decided that it would be a good idea to actively remove content from remakes?
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>>441894567
you stupid fucking nigger f76 sales were down 80% from f4
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>>441894407
>I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.
Then seek help. You're not a healthy human being.
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>>441891486
Because the new pokemon isn't that bad
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The pokemon game is literally just a square-by-square remake of the original games, with new stuff added. New stuff that can be 100% ignored if you wish. Which means its objectively no worse than the originals that were such a phenomenon in the 90's. Compared to the other games you listed which are gameplay blunders that barely even work, and the answer should be clear.

Basically, get out of your echochambers on the internet, you're a fool if you think the ever-competent Pokemon games are comparable to BFV or F76.
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>>441895008
sevii islands weren't in yellow numbnuts
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>>441894794
/thread
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>>441894720
You realize you can just put the joycons into the controller while docked and it works, right? You don't have to play with just the Joycon in your hand.
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>>441894720
Can you move the goal post slower?
You say it's a 1:1 makeover and then say that it does not matter because they should have remade the whole map.

Here is my character, right now, doing the Celadon gym. In Yellow it's just a line of trainers you have to beat.
They changed it for a maze type in HGSS and then in Switch they made another maze.

How is this a 1:1 makeover.
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>>441891486
thats because pokemon isnt shit and only autists on vp are crying about its a fun game
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>>441894354
I'm honestly surprised Kanto looks like Kanto.
Wait, no, Kanto looking like Kanto is normal, right?
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>>441895578
The overworld is mostly 1:1 but some places and gameplay elements do have changes that improve the game.
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>>441891486
most pokemon fans have absolutely no standards as long as pikachu and charizard are there. doubly so if it involves KAAAAANTOOOOOO!
i used to think game freak apologists were as bad as bethesda drones, but at least the bethesda drones are finally getting a clue with fallout 76.
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>>441892493
It's paced better than gen 6 and 7 at the very least.
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>>441892550
It's fine, but it was nerfed for casuals.
It needs a Hard Mode and a Nuzlocke Mode and it will be Game of the Decade
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>>441895042
Retard
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>>441896135
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>>441894667
>Even in your example there is a ton of differences.
Name some. I am specifically talking about the map design here.

>>441894740
I'm referring to the map design. Riding pokemon and overworld encounters are the only good things LGPE managed to do, albeit half-assed as usual.

>>441894796
>They barely put effort into usum compared to lg.
I specifically said Sun and Moon.

>>441894864
We get it, you're a retarded drone that never played a game outside of pokemon and can't see how much better it would be to explore if they gave you more freedom.

>>441895568
What the fuck do you even mean by this? How would I play if my joycons are attached to my switch which is docked? Are you mentally damaged?

>>441895578
That was your assumption. Maybe I didn't make it clear enough but I am specifically talking about the map design which is clearly 1:1. You can cherrypick small instances but the majority is 1:1.

>>441895740
Keep eating shit.

Jesus christ, at least I've shown the pure autism of the fans of this crappy cash-grab. Either casuals that don't know jack shit about game design outside of this franchise or blind nostalgiafags. Or both.
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>>441894407
>I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.
textbook example of why game freak has no qualms pumping out shit like gen 6, gen 7 and lgpe. they know their audience.
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>>441896581
>Are you mentally damaged?
You might be, if you think I said anything about attaching the Joycons to the Switch while docked. I said you can put them in the controller, which you can. The Gyro of the joycons still works fine, people have been playing "normally" with the controller and even using it to throw two balls at once to catch shinies and shit.
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>>441896581
Imagine being so fucking mad that some people bought a game and enjoyed it.

I got the game because it looked like a fun nostalgia trip, which it was. I don't care much for the Pokemon Go mechanics, and I think they could have done more, but 50€ for a 25hour trip down memory lane is ok if you're not a poorfag.

Keep seething, I'll buy again for a G/S Let's Go remake.
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>>441896863
At least they know their audience. Fucking look at DICE insulting their audience and banning their customers from their forums.
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>>441896245
All pits neet to be tied up, put in a sack, and drowned in a river. Watching them kick and scream as they float away would make me hard
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>>441891486
>Best Battlefield, only poorfags don't buy it cuz their budget pc can't play it on 4k/240FPS
>best mmo fallout only friendless and poorfags dont buy it
>only faggots buy sports games
>best CORE pokemon fix all the shit mechanics the old games have is the MHWorld of Pokemon
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>>441896581
Man, you are such a raging fanboy of Pokemon. Stop playing Pokemon games for a while, you obviously like them too much. You kinda remind me of this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jz0x5SDGFM

And he was hopefully a parody.
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>>441896581
>can't see how much better it would be to explore if they gave you more freedom.
>pokemon games do this
Perhaps you have autism
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>>441891486

Battlefield and fallout marketed towards "hardcore" gamers whereas pokemon marketed itself as a more casual experience.

All pokemon needed to do to sell well as provide a comfy experience of an adventure to people whereas the other two games needed to appeal to people looking for that more adrenaline-rush style high.
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>>441891486
>Is pokemon the AAA of AAA franchises
It'd have to be a AAA game first.
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>>441897014
So it ended up being decent? A ton of prerelease footage made it look awful, and I'm kind of skeptical having dropped the series after Gen 6.
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>>441897498
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>>441897498
it is quite literally the most profitable entertainment franchise of all time
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>>441891486
>new pokemon is shit
It's not though.
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>>441894407
>I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.
hello corporate slave
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>>441897617
It's a perfectly harmless remake of Yellow with some good quality of life changes.
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>>441897694
It's definitely one of the biggest but I'm sure shit like Marvel and Star Wars surpass it.
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>>441891486
Those other games are broken messes and PR nightmares. Pokemon Let's Go is JUST a bad game with a high profile, it should be compared to other similar releases like God of War or Monster Hunter World.
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>>441897617

it's mediocre as fuck but it's still a pokemon game. If you like pokemon then you can probably find some enjoyment out of it
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>>441897891
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises#List

#1 baby
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>>441891486
Maybe it's not as shit as you clearly want it to be.
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LGPE proves Pokemon fans have zero standards and will buy Pokemon regardless of how awful it is as long as Pokemon is on the title. Case in point >>441894407, these people don't play other RPGs and likely no other franchises in general so Pokemon is all they know and all they want to know.

As long as these people keep telling GF they don't have to try, GF will never try and we'll get USUM after USUM. If Gen 8 isn't good I'm dropping this franchise permanently which is depressing as fuck since I adore Pokemon with all my heart.
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>poketards unironically defending this dogshit
you shiteaters are the reason we will never get another good game, and instead just have KANTOOOOOO pandering again
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Nintendo didn't scam their customers or calls them bigots or be just another SPOHTS game.
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>>441894407
>Finds JRPG combat enjoyable
>Literally never advances past the easiest baby jprg on earth
It's like a grown man who has only ever eaten pizza and tendies. You have no clue as to the breadth and quality of the experiences you've missed purely because you were too special ed to tolerate minor deviations from what you knew
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>>441897891
Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises
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>>441894407
>I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.

romhacks motherfucker
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>>441891486
Pokemon LeGPEe is bad but it's not nearly as bad as the other games you listed. Gen1 nostalgia and autism definitely play a part but Fallout 76 for example is fundamentally broken in ways that mods can never fix because it's online. LeGPEe at least works even if it's a low effort cash grab.
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>>441894407
>I am a huge Pokemon fan and I am literally INCAPABLE of skipping a Pokemon game because there is nothing to replace my need to play Pokemon.
zero self control, i skipped usum and lgbt no problem and i barely play vidya anymore
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>>441891486
See Gen VI, both game and the anime
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>>441897804
A low quality rehash then? got it
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I just beat E4 in XY and there isn't any real post-game content so I'm just moving on to one of the other games I missed. Which is superior between OR/AS and (ultra) Sun/Moon?
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>>441898071
and you just proved that your a forced meme cock sucker
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>>441898364
UltraSM is superior if you ask me, although it has a more overbearing story and a more confined region. Although a way better Post-Game if you care about that.
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>>441891486
It's popular because of loli waifus
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>refused to buy it
>my friend gets it
>says it's not that bad
>few days later he says it's actually pretty good
>go over to his house to play it
>instantly hooked
>bought it the same day

I couldn't resist.
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>>441898364
Do Ultra Sun/Moon so you at least do something different than 8 gyms.
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>spend 5 years making the pokemon games completely braindead and removing all challenge
>run the games with no magical untapped audience being discovered
>it turns out all they needed was this
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>>441891486
>pokemon is shit
It's more complex than that, and I hate the fucking games.
It's not shit, it's pokemon but even easier. It is sometimes very boring, but also warm and fuzzy and cuddly. It's by no means bad. It's just not for me. And I fucking hate it.
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>>441898167
Good to fill the time between games but never to replace them.

>>441895130
>>441896863
>>441897754
>>441898132
>>441898216
I play other games, but Pokemon games are my favourites. I just finished Red Dead Redemption 2 the other day and have Montser Hunter: World ready for when I'm bored next, but Pokemon always takes priority.

The only game I have not bought yet is a version of LGPE because I don't have a Switch. If I get a Switch before the next Pokemon game releases, I will likely get LGPE.
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>>441891486
>op is a faggot
>dozens of anons reply to it
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>>441898364
I miss Hankanomics posting.
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>>441896581
Holy fuck this is the most turbo autist I've ever seen on /v/ lmfao, and he's ironically not even on the side defending LGPE
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>>441897891

Literally number 1 in profit. More people consume Marvel and Starwars but not anywhere near as much as Pokefags consume Pokemon.
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>>441891486
I wasn't aware that LGPE was full of glitches and LITERALLY doxed people
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>>441898768
Pokemon has always been for casuals and children. The competitive scene is pure autism.
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>>441898601
>>441898753
>although it has a more overbearing story and a more confined region
Couldn't possibly be worse than in XY... right?

Either way, US/M it is. I'll start downloading it right away
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>>441898857
That's pokebarneyfag/eric, don't reply to him
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>>441898364

Get Ultra Sun/Moon. ORAS is a crap remake and only worth it for collectors compared to Emerald with a physical/special split Romhack.
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>>441898929
>what is the 50$ mew exclusive pokeball
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>2k18
What game is that?
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>>441898947
It's overbearing, but I absorbed it better than I did in X/Y. I think US/UM are pretty good.
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>>441898820
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>>441898364
both are remove all difficulty handhold tier, but at least ORAS you kind of feel like going on a big adventure instead of the pokemon themepark ride with people coming and talking to you literally every 2-3 screens
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>>441899050
en bee ayy
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>>441899028
Third vote for Gen 7, that settles it.
Out of curiosity, what's the problem with ORAS? I haven't really looked into it because I haven't played pokemon since 2013 and never even bothered beating XY until right now, but I remember hearing a lot of mixed things. What were the issues?
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>>441899130
OR/AS is a worse game than X/Y, S/M and US/UM.
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>>441899207
Oh. Yeah I'm pretty sure people bought that one anyways. It's too big to fail, so even if it's a shit game, it will never stop being popular.
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>>441897694
>What is AAA
It's ok, just don't make that mistake again
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>>441898934
its always been for casuals, but now its hold down forward and mash A until end credits roll. theres not even any joy in optimizing a team they've made it so braindead
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At the end of the day none of this matters because Pokemon is literally the least inoffensive video game series in the world. It is made for anyone and accepted and played by everyone. It's a phenomenon that does nothing to harm you and is not going to go away.

Out of all the things /v/ has tried to battle, Pokemon makes the least sense.
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>>441891486
Name recognition
Nostalgia from Boomers
Kids who get their parents to buy it
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>>441899130
>both are remove all difficulty handhold tier,
Same or worse than in XY? I actually found XY to be decently challenging, but I also used a lot of relatively weak pokemon in my team like Vivillion and (regular) Sableye, and I also didn't use Exp Share because I heard it breaks the game. So I actually ended up being fairly underleveled compared to my opponents throughout the game. E4 were all around 65 and my team was around 55, for instance.
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>>441898947
The characters and story are wayyy better than X/Y, although just as overbearing. USUM will have more challenge though, with the Trial Boss fights and whatnot. OR/AS literally hands you a MegaLati@s halfway through the game, for comparison.

Of course, difficulty in Pokemon always comes down to actively avoiding the OP stuff. Always has been. Makes me laugh, seeing all the people claiming LGPE is any easier than the originals, when actual comparisons between the games shows an increase in potential difficulty. People just grew up.
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>>441898075
Best region and largest demographic of fanbase will continue getting what they want. Stay mad zoomer
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>>441899384
If the best-selling media property in history isn't AAA then what IS, exactly?
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>>441899267

It ignores most of the Emerald content because "It's a RS remake lel", is incredibly casualized (Hands you Lati@s for free after the 5th gym), and introduces a character so terrible that the manga went full fanservice and had Rayquaza stab her for being so shit.
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>>441899469

peta doesn't like pokemon
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>>441899348
wow good argumen t you convinced me
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>>441891486
Niggers will buy 2k with their gibs every year without fail.
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>>441899458
Its literally always been this way. Sorry you grew up.
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>>441893369
who cares about this shit
it doesn't do anything new or interesting to kanto. It actually has less to explore than those other games and there's no fucking reason we need to go to kanto for a fifth fucking time.
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>>441899458
I really don't understand why they've made all these bullshit changes. None of the earlier games required explanations for every little fucking thing. R/B, the games that started it all, had a single OPTIONAL barebones tutorial in the next city. They're not complicated games and kid are perfectly capable of figuring this shit out on their own, and yet they keep bogging the games down with dumb bullshit.
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>>441899561
Don't forget having to change Jynx
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>>441898818
>I play other games, but Pokemon games are my favourites.
try playing some of the other series in pokemon's subgenre, then. smt/persona, digimon story, yo-kai watch, monster hunter stories, world of final fantasy. they're all currently making better games than game freak is.
once you see what else is out there in this style of gameplay, you'll start to understand why many pokemon fans are frustrated with the quality of the recent games.
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>>441891486
I'd imagine a lot of fans didn't buy it, and that a large chunk of the sales are from the casual market and long-delinquent customers. My mom hasn't played a Pokemon game since Gold, but she bought this one because it was cute and she liked Red a lot.
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>>441899517
you can always do various shoot yourself in the foot things like nuzlocke or not using exp share ect but the casualization of sun and moon cannot be understated. pic related
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The Japanese fanbase managed to skip out on Let's Go, at least far more than everywhere else. If I remember right BW and their sequels were their favorites
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>>441899517
USUM is about the same except for totem Pokemon beginning the battle with stat boosts. Make sure to also change the battle style to Set.
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>>441899662
>one of the biggest complaints about recent Pokemon games is that they're too easy
>LGPE actually re-balances Kanto, making it more difficult in the long run
>LMAO WHO CARES
you people will never be satisfied
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MY GAME FOR KIDS IS TOO EASY DDDDDDDD:
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>>441899517
US/UM is more of a challenge than OR/AS, and has a much larger Pokedex so there are way more options to build a comfy team
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>>441899554
Ah, I see. Seems like an even worse variation of the shit in XY, like where they just give you a Kanto starter 10 minutes after getting your Kalos starter, and then just hand you a Lucario and mega stone a couple gyms later as well.
At least you can ignore these things and just box it, but I wish they would stop doing that crap.

>It ignores most of the Emerald content because "It's a RS remake lel"
Ah, so the same problem HGSS had where they didn't fix the retarded leveling curve or implement a Vs. Seeker in order to "stay more true" to GS. That's really a shame, especially since I never actually bothered playing Emerald and would've liked that extra content that I didn't get in my original Ruby version.
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>>441892605
These. Unironically these.
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>>441891486
I wanted to buy and like the new game but the simplified movesets and not battling wild pokemon really killed it for me.
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>>441899540
>I still don't know what AAA
Sad!
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>>441899267
Not one of the people that you're talking to, but my problem in general was that Gen 3 is shit besides Emerald (which is fantastic). People meme about IGN's "too much water," and I have no idea when it's a perfectly valid complaint when 33% of the game is surfing and encountering the same three wild Pokemon for an entire third of the game. It's atrocious and I've never been able to enjoy the games. People will just tell you to use repels, but why even play a game if the only way you can enjoy it is by skipping the entire literal fighting mechanics for 33% of it? I hated the Pokemon in gen 3, but I have the same problem with 5 in that it feels like they're both just attempts at making another 151, but filling in all of the same slots just it just feels like a cheap knockoff. I've since warmed up to 3's Pokemon, but not 5's where it's too obvious (new magnemite line, new machop line, new grimer, new geodude line, new hitmonchamp / chop, etc. etc. etc.). B/W2 is the best despite this, but R/S/OR/AS never succeeded. Emerald only did because everything else about the game is perfect.

2 > 1 > 4 > 5 > 3 > 6 > 7

I haven't played the second games of gen 7.

And I watched a stream of LGPE and it honestly seems completely fine except for the wild encounters not having battles. I think what they did with wild Pokemon being on the map should actually move forward in the main games but the Go mechanics for catching cannot stay. Otherwise it seems completely fine and very charming.
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>>441900080
you clearly responded to the wrong post, or you're retarded. possibly both. difficulty has nothing to do with the structure of the region, numbnuts
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>>441900081
It's not as black and white as that. Pokemon games were always for kids but you can still compare the early gens to the modern ones and see a distinct difference in how much of a fucking joke they've become.

Still though, I really wish GF would just fucking include an actual hard mode. A mode that made all the hand-holding optional and also gave trainers bigger teams with better pokemon/moveset and had them use actual strategies. I've played romhacks like Blaze White 2 that were legitimately challenging because guys like the Leaders would use metagame-style teams and completely curbstomp you if you thought you could just go in spamming STAB attacks and nothing else.
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The fact that GameFreak are such shitty and incompetent developers really make me sad, imagine if Sora Ltd. had the rights instead? Or HAL? "The more you love Pokémon, the more you start to hate GameFreak" is such an accurate statement that it honestly makes this whole LGPE mess even worse.
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>>441899267
This.
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>>441900464
I've played the second games of Gen 7 and I would put them above Gen 6. However I can't say much for the rest of your rankings because my favourite Gen is 5.
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>>441899840
I've literally played all of these and none of them have the same feeling as Pokemon; even ones like Sun and Moon
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>>441900473
You said "who cares" about them addressing what is easily the biggest complaint with the recent games. That's what I was responding to.
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>>441900538
Just wait for Epsilon Emerald :^)
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>>441891486
Because EVERYONE loves Gen 1.
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new pokemon isnt shit its just not advertised to you. why would you complain about barbie horse adventure being bad and selling
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>>441899040
It's not a glitch or a dox. Also, you cqn transfer mew from pokemon go. So i don't know why you even replied.
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>>441900702
that's a good thing. sun/moon were terrible games.
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>>441891486
>people didn't buy Fallout 76 in droves
Ehh?
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>>441900021
>the amount of fan-art gen 5 got back in the day
>the amount of hype behind it
>the pokédex leaks
I want to go back, to a simpler time...
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>>441891486
Nintendosoi
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>>441892493
Based but true.
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>>441900464
Agreed on the water shit, that was really fucking annoying back in the day. Especially since the giant ocean ocean area was featureless and made it really hard to determine whether you've explored somewhere or not. I remember systematically scanning back and forth row by row of screens making sure to clear every last inch of that fucking ocean.
That said, at least the water shit is mostly concentrated to the end game. The first 75% of the game still feels great and the rest of the map is great.

Really what I took issue with was the complete 180 on features introduced in GSC.
Day/Night cycles and timed events? lol nope, just berries
Animated sprites in Crystal? Totally gone unless you shell out extra for Emerald, for something that should've been in R/S from the start
Tons of post-E4 content like an entire 2nd region? lolno, you get to catch rayquaza and do some barebones battle tower shit, that's it.

FRLG were fucking great though
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>>441891486
Because it was bought by normies that only know pokemon from pokemon go.
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>>441891486
my brothers bought 2k18....
and they both made there players black when they're both white irl....
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>>441895389
They weren't in Red/Blue either, faggot. They still should've been included
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>>441901835
Wow some people don't narcissitically self insert themselves like faggots
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>>441899517
>>441900225
>>441899906
you guys severely underestimate how stupid kids are. i've posted this story before, but my niececould never beat ORAS Archie in Seafloor Cavern because her entire party was her starter, Sceptile, and a bunch of cute shitmons like Beautifly and Pikachu. Sceptile should've been able to solo but it only knew Grass-type moves and False Swipe, so it had no method of surmounting Crobat. She refused all my advice so I think she may have given up or restarted.
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>>441891486
Three things

-It's simple, there are no mechanics to add or remove
-It's very hard to fuck up because the formula is a winning one (NPCs even move in a grid)
-It's as nonpolitical as you can get. It's objectively a game for everybody.

Those three things are what makes it a hit. Every other game you mentioned can be attributed directly to a misstep in one of those three things.
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>>441891486
Even if the execution was scuffed a console pokemon title was something that was the fucking dream. If it was actually fucking good it would have been fucking ginormous.
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>>441891486
New Pokemon is actually dope, y'all just a hivemind jumping on some bandwagon hating a game none of you have the guts to play
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>Is pokemon the AAA of AAA franchises or something
I mean, Pokemon is the highest grossing media of all time, surpassing shit like Star Wars and Marvel and the games themselves are like top 3 highest grossing game franchises. So yeah, basically.
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>>441902174
Let's Go did remove a lot of mechanics, though. Abilities, EVs, held items, night/day cycle, and a few others I can't remember.
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>>441902934
Nothing that was in the originals
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>>441891486
Pokemon is about the battles and the catching them all!
And kanto, newgenners seethe
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>>441903316

physical/special split, the new moves, all those candies, mega evolutions, etc. weren't in the originals either dumbass
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>>441903531
Yeah? They added stuff to improve the gameplay so it wasn't as fucking archaic as the originals. What's your point?
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>remake Yellow
>completely strip Red's legacy
What's the point of remaking if you're going to replace the main character with some faggot cunt? It'd be like if FE Echoes had you play as Faye the whole time
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>>441891775
This should've ended with here. Everything else can fuck right off.
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>>441898947
>US/M
Enjoy the unskippable tutorial cutscenes
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>>441903791
>How dare they replace my blank slate kid protag with another blank slate kid protag!!!
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>>441891486
Satanism of cours€, that's th€ only r€ason why it's so succ€sful b€ing shit
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>>441891486
>How did pokemon become this unstoppable?
Just look at this thread. There are people vehemently defending the state of the game like it's their firstborn. It's no wonder gamefreak never want to try anymore.
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Let's Go is unironically more fun than XY, ORAS and SM/USUM. It's not a great game and it could've been miles better but still.
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>>441902353
Oh also couch co-op in a pokemon game is absolutely god tier. I hope it stays. I've been doing a challenge where I only use three pokemon, only catch one of each and have to put whatever I catch on my team. Leads to fun situations that would never normally happen like having to paraflinch two geodudes to death with headbutt.
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>>441903791
Its a sequel to the origins anime in the megaverse
Plus green is finally canon.
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>>441904619
God, what a qt.
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>>441891486
Because LGPE isn't shit like all the other games you mention, it's just made for casuals. Not the same.
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>>441891486
Anon, Pokemon is the biggest media franchise in the world.
Other companies wish they had a fraction of their success.
It's the new SW, it just can't fail unless they do some massive retarded fuck-up which I doubt TPC will ever allow to happen.
So far every desicion they made printed them more and more money.
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>>441904697
G-guy... I think I want to get in the ball....
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>>441904619
Newgenners think gen 6 and 7 was progress, they shouldve been better than 5 and even then, diamond and pearl was more casual than ruby and saphire
Really, emerald and platinum really matters here.
Plus we have town as well,
The 3ds regression period is real.
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>>441903716
It's a mess of decissions. They took out abilities and held items, which have been in the series since Gen 3 and 2 respectively, but they'll put OTHER mechanics that were introduced later like Mega Evolution and the physp split. So the "it wasn't in the originals" excuse doesn't make any sense.
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>>441893104
It's funny how the gameplay got finally faster and didn't waste needlessly time, but the game as a whole got slower thanks to cutscenes and story, with USUM being the worst offender in it.
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>>441900523
Even the nips are fed up with them.

I honestly wish to god gamefreak would just continue shoveling out their annual garbage and let nintendo or another competent dev work on a once-a-console-gen big budget game like the 3D Mario or 3D Zelda games.
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>>441899554
>introduces a character so terrible that the manga went full fanservice and had Rayquaza stab her for being so shit.
did she die in the manga? also why everyone hates her?
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>>441905208
>20 AUG 2018
Nice copy pasta bring something much more relevant.
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>>441894034
>pikachu's fat face on it
He's been on a diet for over 15 years now.
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>>441905396
You're right, these games are masterpieces.
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>>441905528
>masterpieces
More like a step back to pokemon thats fun.
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>>441905802
Hell no it's not just "fun". They are perfect in every way. I mean, you can ride CHARIZARD. How is that not the best thing ever?
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>>441905257

No it's Pokemon so she just gets put in a wheelchair for a bit after getting stabbed and hyper beamed in the face. As why for she's hated, she's basically every Mary Sue point in one. She's a cute girl from an unknown clan of dragon sages who has secret knowledge and easily curb stomps everyone including the player (not in a fight, she knocks you out). The only game source of her not being an amazing super person you should love is Rayquaza telling her to fuck off because she's not worthy of riding him.

Seriously shit like that is one of many reasons Rayray is the best Pokemon.
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>>441898161
>hello kitty and winnie the pooh are no. 2 and 3 of most profitable franchises
>winnie the pooh
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>>441891486
What an incredible game this was for the mainline's first step in console games. I just finished catching the last pokemon for my dex and man was it a memorable one. I'm so glad they gave mew its own in-game event. It might have been the most fun legendary hunt out of all the games in the series. What's insane is how there was so much build up from all the stuff you find throughout the adventure and it all comes together and ends with finally finding, battling, and catching mew. I feel like it's a fitting end to my adventure in kanto.

Sure there are some battle facilities that seem pretty interesting with a lot of spins on the battle system but I'm not really much of a competitive battler, which is why I had my difficulty set to normal throughout my playthrough. Though I switched to hard from time to time. But anyway I'm more of an explorer when it comes to these games. I honestly thought it would be boring to revisit kanto again but god damn was I wrong. It's insane how much they reimagined it, it almost feels like a new region. Which is no surprise since it's a sequel set 20 years after the original. Being able to control the camera makes the game feel so much more immersive than any other mainline game, since you get to view every nook and cranny of this cleverly crafted world. There were so many side paths I probably would've missed if I weren't the type to pay attention to details.

Speaking of details, not only do they finally have overworld pokemon encounters, but the way they appear into the overworld is just so natural that it truly feels like a real, living, breathing pokemon world. They must have put an insane amount of effort trying to figure out all the angles so pokemon don't look like they're spawning in out of thin air. And the animations! Dear god the animations.
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>>441906079

Been around forever and merch still sells like crazy for people to give babies.
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Nostalgia pandering and low standards for Pokemon related.

Thank god at least Japan had common sense.
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>>441891486
>new pokemon is shit
you say that like pokemon was ever not shit
they've been repackaging the same game for over 20 years
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>>441906107
Just going through the revamped beautiful viridian forest and hearing some slithering sound in the direction next to a tree, then looking around the tree to find a caterpie climbing up it. Or sometimes a hostile beedrill that try to chase you down. Or going through rock tunnel and suddenly seeing the cave rumble then an onix digs itself out of a wall. What a surprise that was. I love how the non-hostile pokemon sometimes interact with your following mon. It's neat when I idle for a bit and my nidoran hops off my shoulder sort of just eyeing or sniffing passing by non-hostile pokemon and when I start moving, she immediately runs back up to my shoulder. Or when my growlithe tries to intimidate passing-by pokemon. It makes them feel so real.

Hands down my favorite part of the game is the legendary hunting though. I'm so glad it wasn't as simple as just going to the same place you expect them to be. Oh man the Cerulean cave surprise. I didn't expect Mewtwo to be in there, and sure enough it wasn't. But what was there...well I won't spoil it cause I want everyone to experience it. But finding Mewtwo itself was also a huge surprise, I love all the intricate quests this game has.

I might be done with the game for now but I still have an urge to just pop in and run around. I didn't expect them to be able to add PSS to a single screen game but the way they integrated it where you just see all these different kind of player character NPCs walking around (character customization is also 10/10) and you could talk to them, which then sends a request to the actual player so you could trade/battle/etc. It's so freaking genius. They even give you an option to actually bring them to your world! Online co-op might be another reason for me to replay the game, it could be fun playing the whole game again in double battles.

Hands down THE BEST pokemon game of all time and I can't wait to see how they'll top this with gen 8.
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>>441896245
Fuck pitbulls
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>>441898132
Which JRPGs have better combat?
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pokemon lets go is addicting and fun and I hope they still keep some GO mechanics for the next main pokemon game just to spite you elitist retards, the salt would be amazing
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>>441891486
Lol it’s good
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>>441904325
>GSC, FRLG, HGSS, BW2, SM and USM all use Red and Blue
>everyone remembers Kanto games for Red and Blue's rivalry
>"it's ok he's a blank slate anyway!"
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>>441906706
Red and Blue are still in the game, dummy. They're both still Champions, and Red is the hardest fight the series has ever had, with higher level Pokemon than Red has ever had before.

Really don't get why you're pissing and moaning.
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>>441906706
...!
red was always a blank slate
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>>441906932
>Red does fuckall, doesn't do anything, and becomes a reskinned Ace Trainer
>Blue becomes nice guy non-rival that only replaces Giovanni
Reminder that Red's feats are what made him the ultimate trainer, not raw numbers. Without his status as a rival Blue exists to be Oak's grandson and nothing more
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>>441906706
Most people don't even know Blue's name
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>>441891486
LGPE, for all of its flaws, actually works and functions as what it promises to be. Also it actually rebalanced the level curve, something that /vp/'s golden boy HGSS didn't do.
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>>441907627
Red's feats are the shittiest of literally all player characters. But I mean, if that's the hill you want to die on.
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they repeated over and over that it wasn't a mainline game and that the next mainline game is coming next year and yet you all still got butthurt
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>>441891775
>The vast majority of Pokemon fans are literally casuals. They don't care if it looks and plays like mobile game. They want to give Pikachu a haircut and pets.
This. Women and children love the game/series and they are quite easy to please as long as it's got cutesy shit and isn't too hard.
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>>441891486
>incels
>children
>autists
>mother and fathers buying it for kids
pretty much cemented their name under mario and nintendo. If someone says they want a nintendo game people instantly go buy pokémon or mario.
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>still no good pokemon alternative
>temtem already shot its self in the foot sucking eceleb dick
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>>441907758
It might be smaller than the other characters, but that was genuinely what made Red who he was. 3 years after the events of the Kanto games, everyone all around both Kanto and Johto talk about Red for beating Team Rocket, and he's treated as an absolute legend, alongside being the very second champion to exist in Kanto, with Blue being the first. It even goes further by having him return in the Championship round of BW2, despite never being fought in a League proper.
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>>441907869
They fucking backpedaled a few days ago and said it was mainline.
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>>441907638
>Most people don't even know Blue's name
That's because everyone knows him as Gary Oak. Red and Ash are too different to be named the same, so they are each called by their respective names. Blue/Gary on the other hand, are virtually identical, so they just call "Blue" "Gary".
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>>441908336
source
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>>441908689
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>>441891486
Because it's not shit and not even comparable to FO76 or BFV. It's just a simpler Pokemon game. I'm a longtime series fan and honestly I've found it to be refreshing after all the railroading bullshit in gens 6 and 7
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>>441907869
>>441908336
They've said it was mainline since the beginning you retards. Was listed as such on the official website, seperated from all the spin-offs.

>literal 1:1 remake of the original main game isnt a main game
Imagine believing this
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>>441909085
This, call me when LGPE bugs out every five seconds or just flat-out doesn't work.
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>>441891486
Manchildren will buy every Nintendo kiddy shit that comes out
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>>441891486
>EA calls their fans racist sexist bigots
>fans don't buy their game
>Bethesda treats their fans like pigs on sticks
>fans don't buy their game
>ANOTHER BASKETBALL GAME
>shit, cuz this fuckin' bitchin' ass game is a ho. i'm droppin that shit, fa.m
>nintendo makes shit game
>delusional fans are willing to give them benefit of the doubt and wait for their next project
I hate drones and cocksuckers, but there's a certain reason to have them around, and EA and Bethesda and Blizzard and etc. Seem to have forgotten why you should be nice to your fans
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>>441903716
You're not even being consistent. First you were defending the lack of obvious newer inclusions by saying "well they weren't in Yellow!" and now you're saying these other things are included so as not to be archaic. That exact same line of reasoning applies to everything else you dismiss.
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>>441891486
Nintendo hasnt been disrespecting their customers, in current year that shit is a genious marketing tactic.
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>>441894407
I certainly am when it completely cuts out the ability to transfer up old Pokemon and strictly removes most of the Pokemon in the series.



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