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>He
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>color image
>png
Lol fuck off
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>>441832342
Phoneposter or Australian?
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>>441832229
it's simple, anon: male character portrayed by female actress (zelda)
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>>441832229
HAS
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>>441832956
>NO
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>>441834884
PENIS
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>>441832910
Pit confirms it.
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>>441835146
>trusting someone who can't read
>whose literal skybox kill is screaming I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO REAAAAAD
Pit's a gay
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>>441835146
Why the fuck does anyone prefer this cringeworthy shit over Snake's codecs?
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>>441835481
Because the Colonel is dead.
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>>441835481
no one does, but the codecs cant come back because the va for the colonel died and it was stated he wouldnt be replaced. so who cares
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>>441835481
This one isn't that much different from most of the codecs in Brawl.
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>>441835656
>>441835676
fake news
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>>441835676
>>441835676
This is such a piss poor excuse for not making new codecs. You could literally just not use Colonel in the codecs for new characters.
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>>441835868
>Beneath that exterior lies the heart of a woman
vs.
>Oh look, it’s Metroid!
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>>441832229
>character disguised a man
>other characters refer to them as male
It's almost like that was the point.
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>>441836007
But people would bitch about Colonel not being in the codecs. Plus, you'd need to record a ton of lines from voice actors in multiple different languages. Some voice actors haven't voice acted in a long time either.
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>>441836060
Nice job ignoring the ones like "Snake just screams Falcon Punch because wacky meme Falcon man" and "Snake hates Sonic the hedgehog because ????"
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>>441836224
Half of them probably wouldn't even notice he wasn't in any of the new ones and most people would understand it's because his voice actor died. The reaction from the rest isn't worth caring about. Were the Brawl codecs even done in languages besides Japanese and English?
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>>441836007
>making about 20-30 new conversations with 3 voice actors using 1st party characters
vs
>making about 40-50 new conversations with 3 voice actors, with one other character being dead and irreplaceable due to the creator's choice, using characters belonging to a 3rd party franchise
Gee, i fucking wonder why new codecs weren't made
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>>441836117
Nah Sheik is trans, just like Yoshi.
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>>441832229
HE?
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>>441836603
>Gee, i fucking wonder why new codecs weren't made
in essence "too much effort", it's not like they didn't already get legal rights from Konami
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>>441837032
One of the actors are fucking dead.
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>>441837079
And 2/3 KI voice actors don't wanna retain their roles? Who cares? Stop justifying Nintendo's laziness.
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>>441837079
>Davind Hayter is still alive
>Paul Eiding is still alive
>Christopher Randolph is still alive
>Kim Mai Guest is still alive
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>>441832910
We pantomime now.
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>>441837505
JP VA
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>>441837369
>>441837505
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>>441837505
Takeshi Aono.
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>>441837079
So don't use his character. Use a different character if you really don't want to just use Mei Ling and Otacon in the new ones (which you could also do). This problem is far from impossible to deal with.
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>>441837505
Japanese Big Boss is dead. Mei Ling too iirc, but I could be thinking of something else.
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>>441837681
>Just don't use The Colonel
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>>441838075
Yes, it's not like he's in every codec in Brawl either. He would just appear in some old ones. It's less jarring than simply having them be incomplete
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What's up with the retard who just uses reaction images because he can't come up with arguments?
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>>441834987
HE
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I didnt know colonels VA was dead until i came into this thread.
I was expecting new codecs too.
Will the olds ones at least be in still?
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i'm not sure which is more annoying, the same "IS SHEIK A GIRL OR A GUY? DURRR" argument that's been going on since the 90s, or the constant jerking off over the codecs even in threads that have nothing to do with them
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>>441838357
old ones are still in, unaltered
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>>441838396
Thats good, i haven't heard them since brawl so they'll be fresh to me at least.
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>>441832229
What's the actual lore on Sheik's gender? I always thought he was male.
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>>441836253
Snakes and hedgehogs are natural enemies. Hurhur.
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>>441838396
That's honestly pretty lazy. Why bring them back if they're not complete?
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>>441838279
Sure you could do that, but it in itself in incomplete without one of the main characters. I'd of much rather have nothing to be honest then just the copy pasting of old codecs.
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>>441838620
Because people would complain if they were gone. There's literally no pleasing everyone.
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>>441838620
why not? it's a neat easter egg
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>>441832440
4CHAN IS THE BOTTLENECK
IT IS NOT THE USER
POINTLESSLY LARGE IMAGES SLOW DOWN THE SERVER
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>>441836060
epic
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>>441838545
Zelda disguised herself and made herself look passably like a man. She used magic to change her skin tone and eye color, but ultimately it's just Zelda crossdressing. Tranny fetishists preferred that she used more potent magic to give herself a willy for no reason so it became a "debate".
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>>441838545
Hyrule Historia states that 'in order to escape the Demon King's pursuit, Zelda went into hiding by disguising herself as a boy of the Sheikah tribe and adopting the name Sheik."
Zelda is a girl, but she disguises herself as a boy, so either work. Recent interviews tend to cite Sheik as a girl, but in game Shiek is refereed to as a boy.
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>>441838620
Because they brought back Fox's secret taunts and the voice actors were still the old actors in Brawl. That's how Smash do.
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>>441838790
Fuck off mootwo sequels are never good
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>>441838831
Viridi shit posting will always make people mad
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>>441835146
>>441835146
please censor this nintendo, this is dead naming
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I don't consider this Sheik to be Zelda, even though I refer to Sheik as male given that was the point of the original game, but Ultimate's Sheik is all man.
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>>441832229
Snake's codec has the better writing while Pit's has the meme writing, which is perfect for a party game for manchildren
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>we get palutenia's guidance instead of Doc Lewis's Pep Talks for Little Mac in the ring stage
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>>441838831
https://youtu.be/mgJMNl5FTwk
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>>441838545
In the game and manga Sheik’s a male body Zelda was “reborn into.” Weird wording but I’m assuming Zelda just took the body of some presumably dead Sheikah.

Obviously retcons are a thing but Japan also always refers to Sheik as a male even in censored versions.
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>>441837079
you are literally too retarded to even be alive, let alone be posting on 4chan
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Sheik is noticeably more male looking in OoT than any version of Sheik used for future Smash games, and Hyrule Warriors, just look at her chest.

The fact Sheik's eye color is even different lead to some people thinking Zelda used magic to change genders, the zelda manga even ran with this theory, having Sheik be pretty much a separate being altogether, with Zelda's memories locked inside.

If you listen to the Nintendo Treehouse, they claim Sheik, even if it's just an alter ego disguise form, was always meant to be female, as in, not even to be mistaken as male, as the Hyrule Warriors interpretation, but I refuse to believe this, as Ruto believes Sheik to be male in OoT.

In the end, I wonder if this is something NoA censored, or if they just decided to make even Zelda's alter ego female, but I guess not, as the OP image references it, though NoA is on a tight leash now, so that may explain it.
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>>441841949
Takeshi Aono is dead.
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>>441835912
It's not fake, his JP VA is dead anon.
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>>441842316
Sheik is a dude in Ocarina of Time and Melee, Ultimate, and female in Brawl, 4, and in Warriors.

Don’t get why this is a hard concept tof understand.
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>>441842384
oh shit, I meant to send that to >>441837369. I guess I'll just die
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>>441842526
Warriors refers to Sheik as a "mysterious woman" or something along though lines.
She's not even trying to pass as a boy, which confused me greatly.
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>>441838357
Did he just die today? Everywhere I look says he's still active.
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>>441842316
>the only person who thinks Sheik is male is some non-human fish bitch whose only other interaction with that species was a boy when she was like five years old.
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>>441842848
I see where you're going with this, but OoT's writing isn't that subtle, at least outside of Grog.
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>>441842316
>as Ruto believes Sheik to be male in OoT
that's because the disguise worked silly

the obvious answer is that Sheik was just intended to be female because Sheik is Zelda in a get up, and that the changes to skin and eye were "magic" essentially taking the place of makeup. anything beyond this is just convoluted.
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>>441842681
Sheik literally means honorable man in Arabic and is a male exclusive religious title.

I seriously don't get how it's such a hard concept that censorship happens. I hate trannies on DeviantArt and so forth but literally taking a man's body is less of some "I feel like a man now let me dress like a degenerate in public" and more "I need to take a man's body because I need to be an actual combatant."
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>>441842316
2014-16 was an...interesting period. The push for more women and females in video games notably more intensified around that time but died down as of late. It could be that this time given the non-uniform look of Zelda's roster, they could get away with Sheik being an actual male.
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>>441843262
That wasn't my point, my point was that in Hyrule Warriors, even if you write off Sheik as just a disguise, they retconned the crossdressing, she was always meant to be taken as a female, which made me wonder if it was censorship.
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>>441832229
Codec >>>>>>>>>> Slutgoddess
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>>441842316
Nintendo of America is notorious for being staffed by extreme liberal manchildren fresh out of college.
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>>441843517
Hyrule Warriors is a different Sheik though.
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Lol it's another
>Nintendo never makes mistakes so now we need to come up with fan theories to support their plot holes and fuck ups.

It's the tetraforce all over again.
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>>441843783
I thought that too, but I was very paranoid, because Bill Trinen was acting like her disguised form was always meant to be female when asked about it, so my first thought was it was NoA censorship again.
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>>441843517
>>441843783
>HW Sheik wasnt OoT Zelda
Fuck im still mad
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>>441843865
>implying the tetraforce isn't canon
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>>441840806
underrated
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>>441843517
>>441843107
>>441842316
Just want to say I like how you type. It's actually nice and not autistic which is something you never see in /v/.

Like, it's possible to have a conversation with you.
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>>441843964
They're just trying to alter history, the official guide for OoT states that Sheik's a man.
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Just come out and say you want to be fucked by Zelda's magic dick
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>beep beep beep
>zwoooop
>C: Snake! Look out for that inkling!
>S:Colonel someone gave that little kid a gun!
>C: Its no kid snake, in fact its closer to a squid than a human. It may look like a child, but it belongs to a battle hungry race of super soldier squids.
>S: Super soldiers?!
>C: Yes snake, their entire society revolves around warfare. Just about every aspect of their lives revolve around playing war games.
>S: War isnt a game colonel, and it its no place for kids.
>C: The inkling can use a variety of ink projecting weapons, from automatics to snipers and even grenades . And they can metamorph into squid forms and swim through whatever ink they lay down.
>S: Sounds like a slippery opponent
>C: Thats an understatement. A single inkling can sabotage and entire militia by itself. Its a living weapon.
>S: Huh, we're not so different then. Let's see how a human living weapon stacks up.
>C:Good luck snake!
>zwoop
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>>441844147
That makes me feel better, because I personally thought it would come off as an autistic rant, especially with how dumb the thing I'm discussing is in the long run.
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>>441844471
It's okay anon, I'm way more autistic when it comes to this.

Like, I actually don't want to get into details, but Sheik being a woman actually negatively effects the plot of Ocarina of Time and Zelda as a character. I am not a big fan of plot censorship in general for reasons like that. Would rather not get into it in a place like /v/ but if you really want I can explain why I think it lol.
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>Snakes codecs are all ripped from brawl
KEK
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>>441844976
If you want to, sure.
I always like hearing different interpretations of OoT's lore and the like, most people usually only do that with Majora's Mask, and the Zelda timeline, but I feel there's a lot of subtle stuff in OoT that never gets enough love.
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>>441835219
Wait is it really that?
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>>441845436
It used to be "I'm finished" (as the Game Over in the NES game said) but this game changes it I NEVER LEARNED HOW TO READ (in at least the dub), referencing a moment in Uprising when Pit thought he was going to die.
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>>441845719
Holy shit that's hilarious, what a doofus .
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>>441844147
How can you say you, like this style of typing, where there's a comma between everything, it makes things awkward to, read.
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>>441844382

The Otacon one where he desperately tries to excuse his desire to fuck the squids was better.
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>>441846163
>She's not even legal, Otacon
>But Snake, she's from a world after the fall of man. The norms of human society don't even apply!
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>>441837767
Japanese Roy is also dead

>>441842698
>Did he just die today? Everywhere I look says he's still active.
Takeshi Aono (Roy's JP VA) died in 2012
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>>441835481
I like codecs to be honest it's also not exactly what i would call "not cringe"
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isn't there a thread on /trash/ for you dickgirl degenerates to be shitting up?
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>>441844064
Shouldn't it be
Tri-Thrice?
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>>441835146
HOLY FUCK IS NINTENDO TRYING TO ERASE TRANS PEOPLE!!!???
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>>441836253
Snake doesn't like Sonic because the JP VAs for Eggman and Snake were related iirc. The joke didn't trasfer over in English.
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>>441847623
I wish they would erase you
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>>441847705
>JP VAs for Eggman and Snake were related iirc

They were Father and Son.
and yes Kojima got the father to voice Big Boss in MGS4
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>>441847551
It was art made for the Smash countdown. It was posted on 4 days to go.
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It's weird that they bothered to axe the word "clawshot" from Link's codec but didn't axe the word "Brawl" from Sonic or Jigglypuff's.
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>>441845218
Sheik being a dude positively shows the differences between men and women, as Sheik was far more active and combative, being physically able to venture out in the world and travel to harsh areas to provide hints to Link and is a much more masculine approach towards help as men are physically capable of doing such. This in-turn, emphasizes Zelda's help towards the end of the game. She becomes far more supportive, and ends up using her "magic", essentially spiritual energy to augment Link's abilities, (Light Arrow and the suppression before the final blow) and deal the finishing blow.

By saying that Sheik is just "Zelda" in disguise and nothing else, you're wiping out both of these meanings, just saying that "Zelda ditched her femininity in-order to be useful" and is now just some genericized character with no actual meaning. It's funny how feminists claim to support women but they think that in-order to be useful women they need to become men. This recent event in Ultimate (as well as Sheik always being referred to as a man in JP) only adds credibility that this was his initial intent.
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>>441847623
wtf I love nintendo now.
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>>441841016
Keep telling yourself that brawlfag
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When Mulan became Ping she used magic to give himself a penis.
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>>441850253
Because Mulan was known for being a wizard, and intentionally disguised herself as a member of a powerful magic using tribe.
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>>441846312
>did.. did you jerk off to splatoon porn?
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>>441850519
nice cope trannyfag.
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>>441850753
Nice projection, ResetEra.
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>>441836007
It's japanese culture. In Japan, they don't change a character's VA under any circumstance, ever. It's why Goku has been voiced by a squeaky voiced woman since the 80s. They consider it disrespectful to replace a character with another VA (or actor in the case of live action). If the actor dies, the character is gone.
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does this mean sheik has a dick?
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>>441850875
Way to miss the point dude.
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>>441850875
The Time Bokan series villains had the same actors since 1975 and it was only one of them dying that finally made Tatsunoko do a passing-of-the-torch replacement casting.
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>>441850875
Goku already has a successor. Bulma is played by the original Sailor Mercury now.
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Should have just used the Off the Hook on Moray Towers TBQHDESU. You don't even need to spend VA money.
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>>441850871
>saying someone is projecting while you project as well
>trannyfag calling others resetera
ironic
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>>441850875
>cite DBZ when Bulma has already been replaced with no issue

Oh nonononononono this cultural myth deserves to die a painful death
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>>441851543
Go away ResetEra
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haha
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>>441832229
Yeah you dumb fuck, this Sheik is BotW Link cross dressing again
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>>441851465
pretty good idea anon desu
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>>441851719
I want to lose my sanity looking at pretty Palutena's true incomprehensible form!
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>>441851649
>doesn't even bother to use a new insult
lazy
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>>441852007
It's not an insult, it's the truth.
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>>441852082
lol
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I like Viridi
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>>441852861
>inklings guidance made this canon
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>>441850559
>no
>awkward silence followed by tremendous laughter
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>>441852861
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>Otacon, someone's dog is loose on the battlefield!
>That's no pet, Snake. It's Isabelle! She's the assistant and secretary to the mayor of a tranquil village full of animals.
>A secretary, huh? Doesn't seem like much of a fighter to me.
>Don't let her cute exterior fool you. Isabelle dislikes confrontation, but she's an incredibly hard worker who won't let anything get in the way of her town's happiness. If you don't want to be the on the receiving end of her fishing pole, I'd suggest you try and make friends ASAP.
>Hrrngh... guess I'll see if I can find a bone around here somewhere.
>Snake...
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>people who like codecs hate them because codecs weren't given the update treatment
>people who like KI:U hate them because the voice actors they got to replace viridi and palutena are fucking awful and the writing isn't as funny as KI:U was
Is fucking anybody happy with the guidances? They're the worst.
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>>441855927
>the writing isn't as funny as KI:U
My Christ, it must be awful then
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>>441854061
Don't bully Lucas!
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>>441854061
>lucas
>crybaby
I'm so fucking sick of Sakurai trying to push this meme.
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>>441858078
He's early Mother 3 Lucas.
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>>441858315
Early Mother 3 Lucas couldn't use PSI
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>>441832229
Nice to see Sakurai finally started caring about spoilers
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>>441835219
>>441845719
My sides that's so good
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>>441859503
True, but Subspace Lucas was intentionally referencing his growth in Mother 3, with him relying on Ness at the beginning, and slowly growing stronger.

Every Smash character is pretty much their most notable traits exaggerated, which is fitting considering they're just a bunch of toys being played with by children.
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>>441841504
what did she mean by this
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>>441858315
Literally not fucking possible. Lucas stops being a crybaby as early as Chapter 3 when he uses the dragos to defend Salsa, and he doesn't even learn PSI until after the timeskip between Chapter 3 and Chapter 4. Nobody even calls Lucas a crybaby after the timeskip, either, they just call him a weird introvert since he stays at home and refuses to get a Happy Box.
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>>441860430
>Every Smash character is pretty much their most notable traits exaggerated
Being a crybaby wasn't a notable trait of Lucas until Brawl made it a meme since Sakurai's a hack, you retard.
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>>441838831
But Pit has a soul. Palutena even asks if he wants her to remove it so it would be easier to summon him at a moments notice.
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>>441849437
Shiek was able to venture out into the world because Shiek wasn't the fucking princess and bearer of the Triforce in a land ruled by Ganondorf.
Fucking kill yourself, christ.
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>>441845776
>>441859923
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>>441838353
HAS
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>>441835481
The codecs were cringe as fuck too dude
>Snake and Otacon screaming "FALCON PAWNCH" at eachother, how epic!!
Codecs aren't any better than the Guidances, you just hate the latter because you're an NPC who hates Kid Icarus because Dark Pit is in the game.
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https://youtu.be/Cze6PLFQtOM
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>>441860430
>Every Smash character is pretty much their most notable traits exaggerated
Nail on the head.
>which is fitting considering they're just a bunch of toys being played with by children.
Child to be exact and it shows.
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>>441838831
I can cherry-pick too you know
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>>441862724
You unironically got your labels wrong
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>>441862724
other way around numbnuts
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>Viridi straight up wants Mewtwo dead
>Palutena chiding Pit for taking so long to finish Fates
>Alucard outta fuckin nowhere

Guidance is top shelf this time round.
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>>441863104
>>Alucard outta fuckin nowhere

what?
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>>441862835
>>441862897
Nope.
>KI characters discuss how Pit can stand up to Falcon only outside of his vehicle, while Viridi discusses her knowledge on how F-Zero racing machines work and their effects on the environment
vs.
>dude FALCON PAWNCH XDD LMAO so epic :))
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>>441863260
He pops up in Richter's guidance to explain who Richter is.
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>>441861265
>the absolute state of /v/ discussions
If /pol/ and /b/ are weaponized autism, /v/ is braindead autism.
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>>441849437
Sheik is Zelda in disguise. Sheik is a woman in disguise.
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>>441862724
Top one is still soulless, oof
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>>441848630
Wait so snakes codecs do return?
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Not mine, but a favorite.
>Cornell, there's a dog with a duck on it's back and it won't stop laughing at me
>... It's not like you to miss Snake
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>>441864815
The Brawl codecs return, minus Otacon referring to Link's clawshot.
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>>441845719
Based Sakurai
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>>441832229
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>>441862724
>Idiot doesn't know about Otacon
Shocking.



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