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Wheel of Time just got a bunch of main character casting news.
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Rand Al'Thor.
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>>119534114
Shutup fag
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Repeat after me

P
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Perrin Aybara.
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>>119534114
which ones are black, i'm betting perrin and elayne
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Mat Cauthon.
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>>119534208
lol got the first one right
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>>119534176
I'm not racist but FUCKING DROPPED
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Nynaeve Al'Meara.
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>>119534208
but aren't all the emmonds fielder dark of hair and eye? and that is what made Rand standout?
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>>119534176
>>119534208
they couldn't resist making young bull black
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>>119534176
LOL he deadass a nigger! We risin we wylin FUCK yo WHIT E
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Egwene Al'Vere.
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>>119534208
At most they went for mutts it would seem. All in all it could've been worse.
>>119534263
They have darker features but something like meds would have been the closest. Rand was not related to the village at all yet all that was usually mentioned was his eye and hair color, and skin only when they revealed an untanned part.
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>>119534263
can have brown eyes & white skin
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lmfao that creepy mormon feminist fuck I knew he was going to do this lmao
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>here’s your Egwene bro
Based. I don’t care that they changed races for her and *Tugs braids* because they’re hot. Also why did they cast an Amerimutt for Perrin? Is is foreshadowing his wolf powers?
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>>119534329
Aaaaaand it's dropped.
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still no Lan? he better be a Jap. always pictured shinarians like that, as they seem to culturally resembla feudal japanese lords.
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>Everyone from the Two Rivers except Mat and Rand is a basketballer
>Moiraine is Rosamund Pike

Lmao
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>>119534436
Lan has blue eyes though. Also, he's Malkieri.
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>>119534465
shit you are right my bad.
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>>119534114
this is going to be so much worse than the witcher. the weaving will look like shit on par with the airbender movie and there's no fantasy monsters besides trollocks which will either be shitty cgi or rubber masks
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>>119534351
>expecting an all white cast in the year 2019

I sometimes wonder how the fuck is this possible. Denial? Really guys.
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>>119534463
>Rosamund Pike
>5' 9"
they can't get anything right
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>>119534525
Nothing will be worse than the Witcher. No matter the racebends, best boys Rand and Mat are still white and save the day 24/7.
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>>119534137
octatroon

>>119534176
halfling

>>119534249
halfling

>>119534285
poo in a loo
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>>119534176
Now I know /tv/ will disparage this casting, but it's perfect!

Think about it; now when Davram sees his daughter ran off to be a coal burner it'll make his explosive rage that much more realistic.
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>>119534641
Also at least this way niggers can have a role model who DOESN'T abandon his wife.
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>aviendha wont be a qt redhead
>elayne wont be an unearthly qt blonde
>lanfear wont be a pale goddess
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>>119534176
I told you Perrin would be black. I’m not really liking the chicks either. Honestly I’ll give it a shot but I’m not expecting to like it.
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>>119534641
they are obviously indian so why would they care?
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>>119534692
>aviendha wont be a qt redhead
Based on Rand's casting and Rafe's mentions of gingers I'd actually say there's a good possibility they won't racebend the aiel.
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Is this another gayass fucking youth novel movie? These movies are always the worst faggot shit.
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>>119534692
can i just get this a Lanfear?
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>>119534176
to be honest perrin was the obvious choice for the race bend

>>119534285
>>119534249
we were robbed of a qt c list brunette australian/british actress
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>>119534795
Lanfear is supposed to be beautiful, not a fucking shadowspawn.
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>>119534641
>>119534733
more like Iranian with their hook noses. also Davram was happy for them
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>>119534844
Better?
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>>119534783
tv series and it isn't a "fuck you adults" YA series
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>>119534795
I'm hoping for an Eva Green clone
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>>119534114
>Moiraine
Perfect aside from height

>Rand
Meh

>Perrin
Is that a fucking joke? Fucking tons of seanchan are nigs why can’t they just, ugh forget it, whatever luckily after book 1 perrins the worst / most boring

>matt
Guess he looks rogueish, kinda looks like a fag but if the actor has the right presence he can do it I guess

>nynaeve
Damnit, it’s all just so tiring

>egwene
FUCKING DAMNIT, come the fuck on. At least she’s cute, in fact aside from her nose she looks perfectly on point for egwene, but I know exactly why (((they))) didn’t choose a white woman


So this is just media now. Pure pandering to minorities
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>>119534844
It's strongly implied Lanfear uses some sort of weave to trick people into thinking she's better looking than she is (not that she's ugly to begin with).
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>>119534875
>>119534958
They both have this weird "uniqueness" to their looks. Lanfear is supposed to be the epitome of "ideal female beauty", as in, the concept of conventionally beautiful taken to its utmost limit. Kinda like a renaissance painting without any imperfections.
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>>119534249
I want to die. It's not fair. IT'S NOT FAIR. DARKIES DON'T EVEN LIKE FANTASY.
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>>119534996
Egwene is a retard who almost fucks everything up anyway, a pooinloo is fitting.
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>>119534176
>>119534249
>>119534285
WHAT
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>>119535008
Lanfear made a deal with the Aelfinn to make her the most beautiful woman in the world.
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Now I don’t have any hope for LOTR unless the Tolkien estate steps in. This show is probably DOA.
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>>119535160
Wrong, she got trapped there like a dumbass and Moridin had to come and get her (which he did by killing her and letting the DO resurrect her lel)
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>>119535194
Prior to that
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>tfw this casting guarantees the forsaken and black ajah will all be white
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>>119535274
Nah, Rahvin will still be a pooinloo/nigger because he fucks the queen.
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>>119535263
where does it say that? in Lews Therin's time she was still regarded as extremely beautiful
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>>119535177
This. Can't wait for colored elves and hobbits and who the fuck knows what else.
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>>119535362
I honestly can't remember.
I'm sure she sees someone comparable to her in beauty and thinks something like 'that's impossible' and mentions the Ael/Eelfinn. It's been so long since I read the books that I'm probably misremembering.
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>>119535362
>>119535485
Wait, never mind, I remember now. She asked the Eelfinn to make her stronger than any other Aes Sedai.
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>>119535485
>It's been so long since I read the books that I'm probably misremembering.
>13 books to read through before the show comes out
Do I do it again? Remembering the female chapters and the middle of the series is off putting.
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>>119534229
>I'm not racist but
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>>119534229
This. It’s so insufferable
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>>119535571
You could just read book 1, they won't go past that in season 1.
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>>119535571
i re-read it this year and i enjoyed it a lot
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what the fuck did you guys expect
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>>119535571
I'm on 7 and I'm ready to give up
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GoT lucked out massively. A few years later and Arya would be a genki Indian girl.
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>Tai'shar Manetheren muhfucka
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>>119535641
Don't worry it picks up around book 11
I'm not joking
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Where are the tits?
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>>119534176
So Elyas will be black as well then
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>>119534114
Can't wait
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>>119535705
lol this
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>>119535641
Hang in there Anon!>>119535705
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>white characters get cast as black
"accept our existence you oppressors!"
>black characters get cast as white
"they're trying to erase our skin color from existence"

Like when Ed Skrein was cast in Hellboy and he was shamed into dropping the role.
Every time.
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>>119534137

"wait, what do you mean I'm adopted and not from the two rivers?!?!"
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>You'll use it, boy, and as long as you hate using it, you will use it more wisely than most men would.
>THE FUK U CAL ME? BOY? I AIN'T YO SLAVE HONKEY
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Elayne > Aviendha > Min
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>>119535705

Don't worry, I'm sure he'll enjoy the book set during an hour of the previous book where so little happens you could literally skip the book without realizing it or missing anything of note.
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>>119534137
>>119535826
hold on now, are you suggesting i'm not a real negro? shoot my friend.
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>>119534249
They ruined best girl!
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>>119535571
Skip anything that involves Elayne PoV from books 4-6.
Skip anything that involves Perrin's PoV from books 7-10.
Skip anything that involves Faile's PoV.
Skip anything that involves Egwene's PoV books 6-10.
Skip about 90% of Sanderson's fanfiction trash.

This is the ideal WoT re-read.
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>>119535917
"Tam when am I going to get the rhythm? "
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>EXT: downtown detroit at night. Every person in sight is black. Hip hop plays from passing cars, gunshots in the distance.
Moiraine: Oh Lan, how will we ever find the boy who's not from here?
>A 7 feet tall, white redhead emerges from the sea of black faces. Lan (Idris Elba) is busy admiring a young girl with dreadlocks.
Lan: We may never find him.
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>>119535626

So he kinda missed the guy getting locked in a box for several weeks, only being taken out to be tortured. On top of the cursed never-healing wound that causes unending agony...

Or the generally bad things that happen to channelers, whether it be stilling, going insane or being made to go on a death march into a deadly dessert.

Or the guy who gets slowly eaten inside out by a never ending tide of beetles?

Or the guy who pukes up magma?

Or the servitude to the aes sedai that will only end when they die or they go insane from their deaths?

Or the fact that women are unendingly abusive as fuck to men almost the whole series?

Seriously, how can you read this series and think "damn, the women have it bad"?
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>>119534176
half the series is perrin going
>where ma bitch at
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>>119536068
"dad why can't i jump like all the other boys"
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>>119536139
Oh no, is he going to beat the shit out of Faile when she tests him?
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>>119536175
He spanks Faile in Shadow Rising. Maybe they can contextualise that for the modern viewer and give her a black eye and a fat lip.
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>>119536175
and fuck pure lily white Berelain as his side chick
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>>119534176
>>119534249
>>119534285
>>119534329
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>>119536103
No one cares what happened to Bland Rand
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>>119536068
"my father Tam went out for some Two River's tabac a while ago"
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>>119536246
Hopefully they don't fuck up Berelain. I expect a 10/10.
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We won /Tolkienbros/
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>>119536340
No we didn't. They're going to fuck up LotR next. This is only a taste of what's to come.
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>>119536340
your turn is coming.
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"There's worse to come, you mark my words."
- Cenn Buie
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>>119536371
>>119536378
Bros...our time came
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>>119534176
WE WUZ WOLVES N SHIET
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>>119536411
This is the only acceptable colored casting.
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Denzel or Idris as Lan?
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>>119536497
Mads Mikkelsen.
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>There was never a Wheel of Time mod for Med 2.
Feels bad man.
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>>119536497
>Death right as feather; duty heavy as mountain
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>>119536451
>tfw no matter what they do, no matter how many franchises they ruin in the future, they will never take this trilogy away from us
movies for this feel?
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>>119536619
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>>119536548
>implying DDK wouldn't be kino
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>>119534285
>>119534249
>>119534176
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>>119536548
Asian Lan would be acceptable as long as he gets blue contacts.
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>>119534176
>>119534249
>>119534285

what the actual fucking fuck
do they expect the rest of the world outside US to watch this? semi decent fantasy books with readers all over the world, and they go full BLACKED to get some woke social media attention points?
dropped
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>>119534249
>tugs afro
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>>119534249
Hey, remember Nynaeve being stuck looking like a teen due to aes sedai and being pissed at nobody giving her respect due to it?
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>>119536808
Now she's not going to get any respect cause she's a fucking nigger.
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>>119534137
>>119534176
>>119534249
>>119534285
My sides

I knew they would find a way to fuck it up despite it already being a diverse setting
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>>119534249
It makes sense because black women already have experience with the weave.
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>>119534176
hahah fucking goddammit
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>>119536880
perfect
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>>119536371
The LOTR adaptations will always be remembered for the original trilogy that has been celebrated ever since they came out. Not even the shitty Hobbit movies damaged people's memories of them, and nor will whatever Amazon does.

It's not the same as like GOT, where it's a dumpster fire and that's all it'll be remembered for with nothing to lean back on. They can release as many prequels as they want, but the stink of the main series will always be there following HBO and the author around.
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>>119536871
Could be worse, they didn't erase the redhead. Really the raceswapping they have done so far is very mild compared to the Witcher, because the Two Rivers folk ARE darker than Rand, just not this much in reality. How they handle Elayne and the Aiel will determine if they actually give a shit, because those are definitely supposed to be light haired and skinned.

Also, Rand looks like Anakin kek.
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>>119534285
Why do they hate money so much?
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>>119536654
Bro...
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>>119535626
Why. Why do they have to fuck everything up?
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How can one isolated little region be so racially diverse?
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>>119536996
They will just claim Tolkien never specified the ethnicities you naive fool.
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>>119536985
>because the Two Rivers folk ARE darker than Rand
brown hair and eyes does not mean non-white skin
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>>119537034
Magic.
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After the show was announced I read all of the books just so I could be pissed off at the show and boy oh boy am I happy.
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>>119534285
This is a genuinely bad cast even if you don't care about race. Look at this shit.
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>>119537060
>brown hair and eyes does not mean non-white skin
Maybe /pol/ is directing this show after all.
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>>119537060
I know, which is why I said "just not this much". They just have that as a justification that kinda works for the muttening. However, if they start to racebend the explicit blondes and redheads we know they give no fucks.
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>>119536340
sweetie...
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>>119536985
Yeah but when they talked about Two Rivers folk being darker I took it as meaning something along the lines of White Hispanic to North Indian or Sicilian. Not full on Africans.

How tall is the Rand actor btw? Because Rand is flat out 6'6.
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>>119537134
It's the hope that kills you
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>>119536451
This.

No matter how terrible things get, we got a 10/10 LOTR adaptation. No forced diversity and no blatent LGBT pandering.

It really was the end of an era.
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>>119537184
Well, they didn't blackwash Rand, so I'll keep hanging onto that hope.
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>>119537158
They're not even dark, just tan outdoorsy farmers. Rand doesn't even really look out of place unless you start looking at his tan lines.
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>>119537158
6'3, which is big for an actor. He and Mat show that they could actually cast the thing right if they wanted to.
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>>119536985
We can already rule out any chance of ethnical cohesiveness as Mat stands out like a sore thumb as well.
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>>119536619
The Lord of the Rings Extended Version Trilogy marathon
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>>119537229
I always got a slightly Spanish type of vibe from old Manetheren, especially when Mat starts talking in their old language and it reads like a romance language.
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>>119534996
Nynaeve can't even tug her braid without her weave falling out.
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>>119537259
It's pretty clear that they are going for a vaguely brown mixed look for the Two Rivers, which is a shame, but as far as racebending goes it's not as bad as making the aiel sandniggers or something like that. Mat is an outlier but apparently he just fucking nails the character based on the tweets.
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>>119537259

>village is literally isolated for 1000 years, so much so they've never seen a tax collector and their queen doesn't know they exist
>they never travel more than a few hours away

Makes perfect sense that they'd have such an ethnically diverse set of people!
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>>119537134
>They just have that as a justification that kinda works for the muttening. However, if they start to racebend the explicit blondes and redheads we know they give no fucks.
No we already know that they give no fucks. Two rivers folk are all genetically close, their "brown eyes =nigger" thing would only work if they made everyone from two rivers black but mat's actor is a blue eyed pale white dude so the whole thing makes no sense
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>>119537392
Personally I'd rather the actors can convincingly portray the characters personality than look exactly like them. The former is pretty fucking important, the latter is a minor quibble.
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>>119537465
>mfw a big plot point of the later books is Two Rivers becoming a melting pot filled with a bunch of different cultures and people who look different from Two Rivers folk

Like why are they even doing this shit? The books are already pro-multiculture and diverse as fuck.
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>>119537507
Physical portrayal of the character is important too and we are talking about a story where ethnicity plays a big part of the story.
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>>119537537
>Like why are they even doing this shit? The books are already pro-multiculture and diverse as fuck.
because the show runner wants it to look like modern america aka mutt & all the diversity in the books comes in mid way though the series as the world unfolds from the shire ripoff the 1st book gave us
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>>119537507
For me the former is the most important and the latter can be ignored as long as the differences in appearance are within a certain margin. Yeah sure, they are not supposed to be THAT brown, but they're still darker than Rand in the books and the cast are not fully black, whatever. That's why I can deal with mixed mutt two rivers people if they are good for the roles, but making the aiel black would just ruin them no matter how good the actors are.
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Cast promo image released with today's announcement.
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>>119537598
Yes for some characters I agree,
.Rand specifically. But I don't think it's a big deal if for example Thom is asian or something. It's not really a big part of his character.
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>yfw Manetheren is Wakanda
>yfw they cast Idris Elba as Aemon in flashbacks
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>>119537615
>shire ripoff the 1st book gave us
Explains why the 1st book was so comfy.
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>>119537664
idris is going to be cast as min though
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>>119537465
Anon stop thinking logically please, we have quotas to meet.
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>>119537656
Asian Thom would be fucking kino if they gave him the typical kung fu master look with long white mustache, now that I think about it.
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>>119537626

Calling it now, Matt will be bisexual and the queen who makes him her toyboy will be turned into a king.
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>>119535641
The ending of book 7 has the absolute best battle so far in the entire series. I don't wanna give it away but it involves bodies exploding left right and center and ashaman finally showing off
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>>119537718
Pls no, Mat is based chubby chaser and I want to Piercepost with him.
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>>119537626
Literally none of those people are even remotely related to each other. It's like they specifically went out of their way to make sure that nothing makes sense.
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>>119537752
That's book 6.
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>>119537718
he already gets blacked by empress washboard, he's the only character 100% certain to be cast as white because of that
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>>119537537
Yeah. The irritating thing is that this ruins one of the major strengths of the books, which is the strong cultural identities of every region.

You'd think they'd realize that going from Two Rivers to Baerlon is supposed to be like the switch from black and white to color in the Wizard of Oz.
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>>119537766
>Mat ends up with a flat thin tomboy with no tits and no ass

In the end, I win, Architect.
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>>119537626
rand looks too much like a generic chad, at least mat looks like a cheeky cunt
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>>119537819
You mean he COLONIZES the brown loli empress of the most powerful nation in the world.
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well, I guess they changing the Aes Sedai witch stealing kids frm a village to "whitye stealing da kidz"
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>>119537904
those dice should be snake eyes
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also Idris Elba as Tam al'Thor so we get the priceless reaction when Rand starts questioning whether Tam is his real father or not
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>>119537859
It's just a prank t. Pattern
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>>119537392
>aiel sandniggers
You just know that's the direction they'll go in.
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>>119537999
Liam Neeson should be Tam. Or Sean Bean for the bait and switch when he DOESN'T die.
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>>119537999

The series better survive until completion so we can get that based sparring match.
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>>119538019
Except the showrunner has explicitly called them gingers and Rand was not raceswapped, so surprisingly there is a chance that they will not be changed.
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>>119537999
kek
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>>119535856
Taste this shit should get you flogged
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>>119538075
Do I need to dig up the screencaps where people were calling model citizens of african descent with dye jobs redheads?
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>>119535856
Rand's harem won't be a thing in the series.

Too sexist.
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>getting mad now
>not when they cast a tall woman to portray a legal midget
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>>119538057
and Tam putting Cadsuane(along with all Aes Sedai) in her place after his reunion with Rand before Dragon Mount
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>>119538057
The only thing better than that was Mat sending Galad a message telling him to pull back if trollocs with quarterstaffs come at him
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>>119538119
Again, Rand was not swapped.
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>>119538163
For me, it's Rand casually waltzing into the White Tower and making everyone choke on their seats with his mere presence.
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>>119538147
Why bother making a WoT show if you aren't going to follow the canon?
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>>119536175
>thinking these soigoi writers would ever have a woman who forgives domestic abuse
That's not progressive. That scene would never have made it in to begin with.
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>>119538147
They will just fuck each other as well.
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>>119538205
>implying heteronormative patriarchy propaganda and typical male power fantasy will be allowed in SJWoT
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>>119538150
>>119538205
Post-catharsis Rand telling Nynaeve that he would like her to be with him when he goes to Shayol Ghul is also a kino moment
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>>119538166
Two Rivers is diverse who not the aiel
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>>119538272
They can film this.
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>>119538278
>yfw Rand telling Cadsuane to call him Rand Sedai after he merges with Lews
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>>119538057
>>119538150
>>119538163
>>119538205
Most based moment is Moiraine delicately telling Egwene to shut up and let the Dragon Reborn save the world during the negotiations before the Last Battle. Light, how I hate Egwene.
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>>119536256
>don't even mention race, like it isn't the most important part of the casting decision
>instead start talking about how the actors profiles fit their mental image of the characters
>and theories on how the show will address plot points
Reddit is literally cucked. I can't imagine a group of people this OBSESSED with avoiding talking about race.
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>>119538344
>tfw Lews will be changed to Luise and Rand will become a pansexual tranny who sometimes identifies as male and othertimes female and that's why the Chosen One
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>>119538369
She's pure cancer, thank fuck both she and Gawyn died

>>119538344
>Rand threatening Cadsuane that he could will her heart stopping because he's ta'veren
God I want this show to be successful
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>>119534114
Jesus, didn't take long for them to adapt that into a movie.
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>>119538289
1. Two Rivers people being mutts can be "justified" by the books. Not well, but at least an argument can be made.
2. We got the most important aiel casting already and he's not raceswapped
3. Showrunner, while being a massive soicuck, has at least explicitly referred to the Aiel as gingers and hasn't tried to give any sleazy excuses for making them "diverse" unlike the rest of the world.

I'm not saying it's confirmed, but all things considered there's way less red flags about the Aiel than a lot of other things.
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>>119538421
How is that going to work when Lews and the Hundred Companions aka the Patriarchy is blamed for fucking up male magic and accidentally the world in the universe?
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>>119538369
>Moiraine
Her and, later, Nynaeve are the only two based sedai. Moiraine is the only OG AS that hasn't lost the plot and gone full magical highschool girl.
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>>119538397
And here we have hundreds of threads based around how Triss should have red hair, is that better? Everyone is obsessed because of American shit politics, I just want to talk about kino
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>>119538483
It was the women who didn't want to help them that doomed everything.
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>>119538148
Moiraine was the first one cast, it's Rosamund Pike.
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>>119538483
>>119538521
The fuck up was going to happen no matter what. Callandor didn't exist and you needed both halves + True Power to seal the Bore. No one is to blame for that.
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>>119537122
She's aboriginal
>WE LOVE ABOS!!
oh man they'll get so many diversity points for this shit
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>>119538397
They did
>Wow, Rand is going to really stick out now, THIS IS AMAZING
>Two Rivers people have dark eyes and hair so obviously they're black
>They never mentioned skin color in the books
etc. etc.
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>>119538557
Yeah, it's all part of the Pattern.
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>>119538521
If the women had helped, Saidar would have been corrupted too though from the Dark One's counterstroke
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>>119538501
i'll always have a soft spot for Siuan Sanche. based tsundere maid
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>>119538596
And if the men did as the women wanted they wouldn't have been able to seal the DO in the first place.
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I hope they give my boy Ituralde a bigger role
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>>119538483
>the Red Ajah were the good guys all along
I can't wait for that plotline resolution.
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>>119538596
maybe the counter stroke only happened because women didn't help. after all that wasn't the first time the DO was sealed and he couldn't touch the female side when the male side was cleansed even though both were working together
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lol did you guys not abandon all hope after the first tweets came out?
sucks to be you guys
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>>119538369
>>119538433
>>119538501
Tuon instinctively knowing Mat's dagger isn't aimed at her but at the Gray Man is a top 10 cute moment
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>>119538684
I never had any hope to begin with.
>>119538647
>Ituralde
Based
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>I have won again, Lews Therin
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>>119538513
>I just want to talk about kino
Then why are you in a thread about a film project that hasn't even started? There is nothing filmed yet to even be kino, supposing that this impending shitstorm will even come close to kino.
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>>119534114
why no asian representation.
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>>119538678
Except we literally know that the True Power is needed because it acts as an outer protective layer in the act of sealing. That is the only way both saidin and saidar won't get counterstroke'd again.
Callandor didn't exist in the Age of Legends, therefore it was impossible to do the deed. The access key plan would've failed too since, as Rand realized, a world without the Dark One would be fucked in a whole different way
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>>119538596
>If the women had helped, Saidar would have been corrupted too though from the Dark One's counterstroke
See, I have a hard time imagining this as a real possibility, in a meta sense. We know that this isn't the first time the One Power was tainted, or the first time the Dragon had to reseal the Dark One. This has happened countless times in the past, and will happen again forever. It is a possibility that Saidin has been tainted a million times before, and that Saidar has been tainted, with a female equivalent to the Dragon (that Aiel woman, Nakomi, seems like a possibility). However, if both Saidin and Saidar are tainted, how the hell would the world survive for the Dragon to come save it? No Red Ajah to gentle the mad channelers, every person who starts to channel is inevitably going to destroy everything. How would such a world even allow the Dragon to be reborn?
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>>119538684
even before that we all knew what was going to happen
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the ending is just that bitch magically learning a new spell just in a knick of time lmfaoooooooooooooooo fantasy is literally for retarded faggots
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>>119538762
Because there are no asians in WoT. The Seanchan are coffee-obsessed blacks descended from not!King Arthurs campaign to conquer the new world who have grab-bag asian aesthetic.
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>>119538711
Unironically got teary eyed at how much she trusted him
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>>119534229
>I'm not racist
you should be, if there is any legitimate basis to judge others on after actions it is race.
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>>119538762
The Borderlanders are mostly Asians - Saldeans are some kind of Arab/Pakistani/Persian/possibly Mongol mix, while the rest of the Borderlands are mixes of different things
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>>119534114
I give up. Nothing made in Hollywood will be any attempt at making something entertaining, it will all be part of an agenda. Just fuck it
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>>119535599
this
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>>119538796
theres plenty of non-whites in the series canonically, the problem as always is the social engineering behind casting instead of following the source material
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>>119538808
Seanchan have fucking everything, not just niggers. Tuon is black but her mega milker maid is pure aryan blonde.
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>>119538903
Don't bother reasoning with retarded /pol/cucks
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>>119538808
you could argue that Seanchan are south east asian rather than black as the books say they aren't as dark as the sea folk, also some of the borderlanders sound more jap than anything
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>>119534114
>>119537626
This will be another Dark Tower. Screencap me.
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>>119538935
Selucia was white? Never realized
nice
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>>119537626
I just find it funny how indian and chinese men get so utterly fucked over because the white women behind this diversity crap are disgusted by them. It's literally like a guy writing a show with nothing but huge tiddy bimbos and saying it's a moral choice because there's some asian girls as well.
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>>119538344
>Rand trying the same thing with Moiraine
>she tells him to make her a cup of tea
I love her
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test
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China, please, take over the world already and save us from amerimutt "culture"
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>>119538995
>Moiraine telling him that if they were to measure age by the amount of memories in your head Mat would be the patriarch of them all
Absolute kino.
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>>119538935
they also larp as chinese not africans. another change that will make the show worse
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>>119538997
Congrats, you're not banned.
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>>119539040
>Mat scouting the battlefield and getting back to camp
>Casually goes ''huh, Bashere is a darkfriend''
We'll probably never see half of these scenes, unless this is Jeff's passion project or some shit
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this would have been better as an anime
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>>119539037
this.
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>>119539044
They don't exactly "larp" as chinese, but one of the influences for their culture was imperial china along with america. But this presents one huge issue I hope the producers are aware of. In WoT (real world) culture does not necessarily correlate with (real world) ethnicity, which is the entire point of the Breaking and its effects.
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>>119539124
>what if Rand was a cute girl and wasn't bullied in his box
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>>119534114
let me guess, leslie jones will play Graendal
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>>119539206
Nah she'll be Tuon.
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>>119539177
yeah they'll just all be KANGZ with an Egyptians motif. cap this.
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How are they going to handle madness? Will it be a soft voice in the background? Or a completely black space in the mind and someone cast as Lews so Rand can talk with him?
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>>119539252
Personally I'd want them to make Lews appear in person, but only behind Rand, and when he tries to look, he's gone. Make him walk around and ramble and shout and cry in the background, but only Rand is aware of him.
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>>119539252

It's mostly a voice in his head and increasing paranoia. They'll likely to the hollywood cliche:

>zoom in on his head
>dramatic noise building
>twitches head and goes a bit wide eyed as crazy voice speaks in his head
>"Rand... are you ok?"
>zoom out, conversation resumes.
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>>119539252
With great difficulty.
Weaves are another problem. I have no idea how they'll make channelling look good.
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>>119539328
Fuck that sounds great, just imagine Rand in later seasons rambling about, everything clear to us but the characters looking at him and shitting themselves
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>>119539328
throw in a few scenes where Rands actor is replaced with Lews Therin's
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>>119539393
Weaves are simple IMO, each element has it's color, weaving something just shows colors merging together. They merge into different patterns depending on what's being channeled, so the audience sees that even though same colors were used for two different things they're being woven in different ways for a new result
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>>119538935
>mega milker maid
explain pls
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>>119539393
If they just copy Dr. Strange it'll be good enough.
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>>119539461
Selucia. Basically every time she's described they point out how fucking massive her tits are.
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>>119539393

Glowing ribbons that intercross and weave.

Whilst the book describes the male half of the power as being the same but covered in sludge I'd like to see them do something along the lines of them being covered in a black earth like substance. You'd have a look like cracked earth with lava flowing underneath.
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>>119535078
Maybe because they're not really represented in a lot of fantasy movies? Kinda like the first three Star Wars movies? Which led to some terrible choices in the last five, as I'm sure we're all aware of...
But they're not mking this series for the people who liked the books, half of those won't bother with a TV-adaptation regardless.
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>>119537718
I think they'll be satisfied with making the queen peg him.
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>>119539393
just throw cgi wool around at people, anime has been doing that for years
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>>119539206
don't put that shit out into the universe. bad enough that the most titcow of fantasy titcows will end up being cast as some uggo chestlet, there's no reason to try to make it worse.
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>>119539461
big titty bodyguard wetnurse for a loli empress
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>>119536731
The US is the most important market. The Chinese probably won't care, because they have their own Fantasy TV trash.
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>>119539511

The problem is that a big part of WoT is that all the regions are very distinct in terms of ethnicity and culture.

Only the seanchan and sea folk are ever presented as being diverse rather than a single race.
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>remembering that the showrunner said Rand's harem will whore around
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>>119539499
I hope that saidar is more "flowing" and soft while saidin is more erratic and electricity-like and covered in black, oily substance.
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Reading the books now. Perrin looks good a d Mat looks good too. Rand I'm not sure on he could be good. I actually like the Moiraine pick but I really want to see who Lan is. The series has a ton of potential for a good long running series that actually has books to take the plot from.
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>>119539499
i'd just give them a murky aura the weaves themselves are pure. also i hope they dont cut out all the puking Rand does every time he channels
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>>119539587
>big titty bodyguard wetnurse
FUCKING BASED
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>"And it shall come to pass that what men made shall be shattered" Moiraine whispered.
>"The Shadow shall lie across the Pattern of the Age, and the Dark One shall once more lay his hand upon the world of man. Women shall weep and men quail as the nations of the earth are rent like rotting cloth. Neither shall anything stand nor abide."

>"Yet one shall be born to face the Shadow", Moiraine said more loudly
>"Born once more as he was born before and shall be born again, time without end! The Dragon shall be Reborn, and there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth at his rebirth. In sackcloth and ashes shall he clothe the people, and he shall break the world again by his coming, tearing apart all ties that bind!"
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>>119539607
We know it'll just be out and out cuck fetishism, no need to remind us.
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>>119539607
Rands harem is the worst things in the book. Aside from Egwene all of them fall for his dick for literally no reason. Its one of the things I hope does get changed in the show. That and a better explanation on why Rand becomes a sword god within a few months.
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>>119538720

Unironically this.
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not gonna watch this shite
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>>119539616

If they're really good, they'll capture the whole "Saidar is a smooth river you let carry you, Saidin is a ferocious set of rapids you have to fight against"
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>>119539668
>"Like the unfettered dawn shall he blind us, and burn us, yet shall the Dragon Reborn confront the Shadow at the Last Battle, and his blood shall give us the Light. Let tears flow, O ye people of the world. Weep for your salvation!"
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>>119539393
>I have no idea how they'll make channelling look good.
Someone post the M Night Shamalan Avatar bending webms. They're fitting for how the show is treating canon.
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>>119534285
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand.....DROPPED
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>>119539686
Literally all it took was someone saying ''Illyena's soul split into three'' and the harem would've made sense
In fact I'm pretty sure one of the girls states on multiple occasions that she feels as though the three of them were one, even before any bonding goes down
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>>119534114
lmao you guys are pathetic

two rivers folk were all mixed in with dark skin

egwenes actor is a native indigenous Australian
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>>119539607
>>119539686
He'll just make Avi and Elayne lesbians, calling it now. Which sucks, because it completely misses the point of them becoming first sisters, but it's such an obvious change it'll take a miracle for it not to happen.
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>>119539686
>Rands harem is the worst things in the book.
>t. actual faggot
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>>119539766
True. Hollywood doesn't understand friendship, which is why they sexualize every relationship.
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>>119539763
>two rivers folk were all mixed in with dark skin
Source? A real one, not reddit.
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>big bad evil is evil because... who knows
lmfaoooooooooooooooooo
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>>119539686
>Rands harem is the worst things in the book. Aside from Egwene all of them fall for his dick for literally no reason.
Being the Dragon Reborn/Car'a'carn/Coramoor/King of Andor, Cairhien, Illian, and Tear aren't reason enough to be attracted to a guy? Being tall, strong, handsome, and innocent/kind aren't reason enough?
>Its one of the things I hope does get changed in the show. That and a better explanation on why Rand becomes a sword god within a few months.
Most of the earlier things apply here too, the man spent all his time throughout the series doing 2 things:
1) Fighting
2) Training to fight
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Oh my goodness non-white people in a tv show please protect me god emperor!!!!
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>>119539826
Because he's the primordial concept of evil itself, you dumbass.
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>>119539772
It's kinda true in that Avi is barely even there and Elayne is a vapid moron.
Min best girl.
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>>119539816
there's none, Rand blended in with he Two River folk with the excepting of his height and his hair/eye colour. 56%-ers think everyone is a polluted as they are
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>>119539872
Aviendha was great until Rahvin killed her then she became a non-character since Rand was paranoid and sent her away
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I know it pisses some people off but I liked all the "each of the main three assume the other two are great with women"

>Matt can flirt and get laid but not have anything more than a one night stand
>Perrin effortlessly attracts women but it too nervous to interact with them
>Rand can interact with women naturally but can't into romance
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>>119539810
I'd be okay if they made them both fugg Min and still kept the sister bond between Avi and Elayne. If they HAVE to change the harem dynamic and include more LGBTBBQ that would be the best way to do it, because at least Min is qt.
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>>119539854
>concepts need physical embodiments
lmfaooooooooooooooo
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>>119539772
No, you're fucking stupid. Girls who had no reason to jump on his dick wanted to jump on his dick after 5 minutes. It was completely stupid. I didn't say Rand should suck dick it just deserves a better explanation.
>>119539845
Expect they wanted him BEFORE all of this. Also he beat a BLADE MASTER a real one with only knowing the basics and the void which is implied all masters can access.

Read the fucking books again.
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>>119539878
>there's none, Rand blended in with he Two River folk with the excepting of his height and his hair/eye colour
Nah, Morgase and Elaida mentioned that he didn't look like he was from the Two Rivers, in part because the people there are darker than he is. Doesn't mean they are brown or anything, but you could make that interpretation without it being completely baseless
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>>119539927
>physical
Nigger.
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>>119539686
>for literally no reason.
he's a 6'6 chad with a muscular body from years of manual labor, also politically the most powerful man on the planet.
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>>119539908
Shame they never sat down and talked before the end, I hope the show changes that
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So the Aiel won't be desert Irish people I take it? they will be standard arabs and blacks.
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>>119538678
RJ himself confirmed that saidar would have been tainted.
LTT did what he needed to do, which is buy time. The light was on an inevitable losing path in the war of power, but by sealing the DO he bought humanity 3k years, and as a bonus he nabbed the forsaken. If Ishy had been properly sealed as well it would have been a resounding victory. As it is Ishy was able to keep the playing field balanced whenever he broke free.
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>>119539955
>in part because the people there are darker than he is
And this was shown by revealing his untanned skin. If the difference was really that obvious all they would've had to do was point at him.
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>>119539686

He literally had one on one tutelage with the world's strongest warder. Plus it's in his blood and he uses the one power to help him a bit.
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>>119539816
i should have said lighter skin, instead of dark . in eye of the world there are a couple sentences that essentially they all have a light tan (except rand)
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>>119539898
This. Big titty, red headed, /fit/, warrior, magic user gf is best gf. All others are merely bed warmers.
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>>119539908
I loved this in the books.
>>119539816
The books. When WoT takes place the majority of the world is mixed up
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>>119539949
He beat Turak by sheer luck, because the void gave him a massive boost and Turak didn't take him seriously until it was too late.
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>>119539949
>Expect they wanted him BEFORE all of this. Also he beat a BLADE MASTER a real one with only knowing the basics and the void which is implied all masters can access.
>Read the fucking books again.
You absolute brainlet. The entire concept of being taveren was only there to explain shit like this - the Pattern itself helps Rand when he needs it. The three girls fall for him because he needs them to, he beat Turak because he needed to
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>>119539908
i loved this. its a really wasted opportunity that they never all met up together before the final battle. Matt was running around between them ffs just get them all together fucking sanderson you hack
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>>119540013
Again. He learned the basics and it was drilled that is all he knew and it was only a few months. He didn't use the one power at all that is your head canon and I'm not talking about end game Rand.
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>>119539588
Is there any passable Chinese fantasy series with subs out there somewhere?
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>>119540084
That's a horrible excuse. Completely horrible. At the same time that is really all that can be said because it's the hand wave Deus ex that he wrote in to protect horrible writing in the early books.
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>>119540146
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9600798/
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>>119540084
Nah lad, Elayne makes no sense. She was creaming herself after 1 conversation.
Min and Aviendha are easily explainable, but Elayne is just dumb
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>>119540218
>Nah lad, Elayne makes no sense. She was creaming herself after 1 conversation.
I have this effect on women myself.
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>>119539686
>That and a better explanation on why Rand becomes a sword god within a few months.

Are we forgetting that Mat flat out wins 1v2 against Gawyn and Galad who are both swordmasters by proxy of both being good enough to kill other swordmasters 1v1 while being crippled and sick, distracted and not having had any training before he gets all the old memories from the ter'angreal?
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>>119540146
three kingdoms is essentially fantasy
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>>119540174
The fuck is your issue? Without the three boys being taveren, literally none of the series would be possible. The Pattern helpng things along is one of the smartest pieces of worldbuilding RJ did - it is the only way it makes sense for the Dark One to always lose, even after a million attempts
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>>119540085

Yeah, they had 1 on 1 interactions but we never got the three of them.

But then the final book had a shit load to get through and there were a few plot elements that fell by the wayside or hastily concluded.

Padan Fain's shitty end, the aiel's god and Aviendha's future, how the world isn't going to get fucked by the Seanchan the second the treaty fails, the rushed prophecy fulfillment for Logain
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>>119540218
>Elayne makes no sense.
posh totty wants a bit of common
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>>119540218
>he's never had a girl thirsty for his dick just from his mere masculine presence
lmfao how much of a manlet faggot are you m8?
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>>119540305
Mat is a luckchad
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>>119540305
Matt can do whatever he wants he's based.
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>>119540218
Elayne is a sheltered teenager princess who has a 6'6" gigachad fall into her garden, it's completely plausible. She is essentially experiencing a regular teenager crush the entire series, but the fact that the fucking world is ending prevents her from sitting down and actually discussing shit with Rand, which would either let the relationship develop past the crushing stage to something more mature or end with them getting separated. She's riding the initial infatuation the entire time.
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>>119540305
Swordcucks are no match for based spearchads in the first place and Mat was trained by the best his entire life.
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>>119540345
>Hating on manlets
Nigga our lad Olver is literally a pussy magnet
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>>119540345
Gaidal Cain is smashing the hottest pussy in the pattern you dumbass
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>>119540097

He beat the blademaster in the void, something he'd been taught from a young age by his blademaster father, and had been previously been using the power unconsciously , there's a strong implementation he'd drawn a trickle of the power to give him strength.
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>>119540463
>Olver
barely pubescent kids aren't manlets
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>>119540218

He was an innocent, rugged 6ft+ guy from a land she didn't know. Plus it was established that he was good at conversing with women.
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>>119540536
He's stated to be very short even for a Cairhienin kid and the Cairhienin men are already like 5'4 on average.
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>>119540305

They were overconfident and were used to sparring against short weapons. It was also established that stave tournaments were popular in the two rivers, alongside using longbows.
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>>119540550
Plus the way they meet is straight out of those trashy romance novels women fucking love.
>oh no it seems that I have fallen into your lap, my princess, could you help me tend to my injured body that looks like a fucking greek statue? Oh my, where did my shirt go...?
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>>119540651

>"oh dear I also seem to be all sweaty from climbing that cliff with my bare hands"
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>>119534556
Why. Literally, why can it no longer be possible? It's just all so tiresome.
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>Expand these characters in the show
Logain, Ituralde, Sulin, Galad, Fain, Tuon, Tam
>Reduce these characters in the show
Faile, Berelain, Egwene, Elaida
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>>119540651
>>119540722
I found the soundtrack for the wall climbing scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1E9jrElVLY
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>>119540722
>oh, my well turned calves are hurting, I must've hit them when I fell. Could you check them for any bruises, my princess?
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>>119540775
>reduce Egwene
Too bad, the showrunner is an Egwenecuck. If anything expect her role to be expanded and all of her faults to be ignored.
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>>119539252
Don't worry they won't get that far in the story anyway
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>>119540645
seanchan sword fighters probably dont know about the void seeing as its a channeling technique and all males are killed and female channelers are enslaved
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>>119540829
The nice part about egwenecucks is that all of her psychopathic tendencies are what they like about her. She's going to have Nynaeve raped and they'll cheer for it.
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>>119540829
I wonder how they are going to handle that once again, her being spanked until she literally bleeds from her ass cheeks is a major plot point.
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>>119540799

>I'm cursed you know, fated to die tragically young. It all makes me so... brooding and sensitive emotionally.
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>>119540775
>Reduce Berelain
what are you gay
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>>119540829
Literally fucking how, her character is pure garbage, I'm fucking mad that Nynaeve didn't tell them all to fuck off during her Aes Sedai testing.
Imagine fucking helping heal Saidin, heal stilling, killing Forsaken, being one of the most trusted companions of the Dragon and having a bunch of power hungry delusional whores question your ability.
And goddamn Egwene shat on her the most during that time, jesus I'm actualy fuming
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>>119540923
kek
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>>119540923
>please, don't get attached to me, I'll only bring you pain. It's better if you forget about me and my strikingly beautiful eyes
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>>119540904
its woman on woman so its not sexist. just sexier
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>>119540959
Not to mention that Egwene is the only one of the main group that leaves because
>lol you're not having an adventure without me teehee
and she makes fun of the boys when they try to get her to understand that they are in mortal danger. She never admits she was wrong either.
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>>119541004
What about Mat having had enough and spanking the Aes Sedai in the wagon?
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>>119540959

She's a wish fufilment character. Everything keeps going her way until the becomes the most powerful, the smartest and most well loved person EVAR.

Always find it a bit weird that it seemed like there was a switch pushed in the books where she went from a slightly bland ordinary girl into a turbo-bitch.

until the end that is
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Am I the only one who didn't hate Egwene?
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>>119541089
She's pretty much a mary sue. The only difference is that she doesn't get inserted into an established series, but that's trivial. She still one ups everyone effortlessly and heroically dies at the end too.
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>>119540904

You know they'll cut the Matt spanking.

But keep Matt getting raped repeatedly in a 'hilarious' way.
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>>119541145
yes.
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>>119540959
>>119540900
>>119540829
Based opinion: The books would have been far better if Egwene became a Forsaken. She had the selfish, selfobsessed, arrogant, powerhungry personality that one expects from the Forsaken in their early lives
>as a child, she wants to become Wisdom, because that is the most powerful position in the village
>the moment she meets Moiraine, she wants to become Aes Sedai, just to have everyone grovel before her (Nynaeve only became Aes Sedai to heal people, mind you)
>she becomes an apprentice of the Wise Ones, just to have more power than other Aes Sedai as a Dreamer
>she actually wants to become Amyrlin, so she can boss people around (every other main character fears the responsibility of leadership, and they all try to avoid it if they can, while she craves it)
>she does everything possible to gain more power as Amyrlin, even usurping powers that normally only belong to the Hall
>she does all of this, and after everything, doesn't even help Rand (The Dragon fucking Reborn) save the world, but rather opposes him every step of the way
RJ made a mistake keeping Egwene on the side of the good guys. She should have turned
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>>119541156
That's a shame. Joline wanting Mat for a Warder afterwards is a cute moment.
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>tfw no thicc forsaken gf
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>>119540775
Include Uno in expand too
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>>119541154

The writings of the politics in the series was terrible in general (did anyone enjoy the succession war?) but Egwene becoming the leader of the rebels was just insanely bad writing
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>>119541154
Nah she dies like a retard because she couldn't keep her emotions in check. I suspect that'll get cut too if we get that far because it sends the wrong message.
In fact she piggybacking of off the female equivalent of Callandor once she gets into the tower, and before that she's straight up a toy for Aran'gar. Perrin shits on her in TAR, which was hilarious. And the moment Rand informs her about his plans she begins to scheme against him only to fail at that too.
The only thing she did correctly was sniff out the black ajah and that was all Verin, even then a lot of them escaped because she couldn't wait until the tower was reunited.
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>>119541253
>yfw they make all the non-white Forsaken, which is more than half into white people
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>>119541290
I liked rands politicking bits a lot honestly, all the female ones are trash tho
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>>119541245
I could see that. Make her try to pull a Verin but make it so that she eventually gets way too deep and can't make her way out anymore.
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>>119541327

It's pretty well established that losing a protectee/warder will cause Aes Sedai to go suicidal. Only ones who avoid it are ones that are physically restrained or compelled not to kill themselves.
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>>119541290
>did anyone enjoy the succession war?
I found it way better when I went to reread the series after playing crusader kings 2. You can suddenly relate to the struggle.
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>>119541435
No it isn't, it only works the other way.
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>>119541245
Egwene should have turned Forsaken and Lanfear should've have had a redemption.
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>>119541392

I think Rands Stuff is less infuriating because things go wrong for him quite often and he goes full Tar'veren other times.

When things go endlessly perfect for Egwene and Elayne constantly despite their political manouverings being simplistic and easy to see through, it's annoying.
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>>119541423
Verin was a great character, I loved her development.
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>>119541392
This. For Rand it was personal, every darkfriend works directly against him, and you can't know who it is. Combo that with going mad and you're in a tense situation 99% of the time.
Elayne had everything laid out before her and mad it complicated for no reason. The literal Dragon gives you TWO thrones and you go ''DURR I CAN'T TAKE THEM DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT''. It gets even worse when she actively endagers her kids with stupid decisions later on.

>>119541435
Before Gawyn dies her Keeper offered Egwene to take the bond because they needed her sane until the battle ends and she fucking rejects it. Egwene could've very well doomed everyone with her selfishness and stupidity, going out like a pathetic chump was perfect for her



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