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what happened to the good old summer blockbuster, tv? can't they make it anymore?
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>>116524272
It's not 2006 anymore.
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Everything is now a franchise trying to make up for it's own fault by relying on brand recognition.
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The “strong female is smarter than men” role is starting to get old. People want to see movies without being force fed stuff
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>>116524272
capeshit took over
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>>116524272
>Roid Gear Solid
>Poster child for affirmative action

What a great cast. Why aren't people storming the kinoplexes I wonder.
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>>116524272
No new ideas and overused tropes. People are tired of Chris Hemsworth playing the bumbling-but-sexy male lead.
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>>116524272
Toy Story 4, Lion King, Spider-Man are all gonna get high critical reviews and make bank. Basically Disney once again saves the cinema.
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thank fuck this shit bombed
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Watching movies produced in the last 5 years you'd think blacks made up 50% of the US population, and women made up 80%.
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At this point in society, people are subconciously aware that college pamphlet diversity = bad film.

They may not have noticed it, but their brain did.
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>men in black
>men
>featuring a woman lead
How long until they cast a man to play Cat Woman?
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>>116524272
that’s actually way higher than I anticipated
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>>116524699
This has nothing to do with that. Do you think if instead of Tessa they had another man in the role with Chris it would've magically made the plot and dialogue less shitty? No it would still be the same movie.
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>>116524272
i wonder what % of movies are reboots or sequels now
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it's pretty amazing how well Will Smith has done in getting his kids whatever they want
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Poor Hemsy, hope he enjoys sleeping on his pile of cash for a while.
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>>116524272
every movie is a summer blockbuster now. Who cares?
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>>116524824
>No it would still be the same movie.
No, but it would take me more than half a second to completely disregard it, especially considering that I like previous MiB movies.
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>>116524272
Every studio is incompetent other than Based Disney
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>>116525117

I cannot allow women to steal my wizardly powers
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>>116524613
we don't know that yet
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>>116524881
He's a well respected Black man with connections. Of course, they're gonna let his little monkeys dance.
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>>116524640
Its a shame but cinema is finally going the way of TV; the vast majority caters to women (the largest demographic for film/television entertainment) and they include blacks solely to grab the black market.

Im surprised there isn't more of a push for the latino community. I know bravo and the other reality show networks are producing more latino-centric shows, but movies still aren't really there.
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>>116524558
Toy Story 3 doesn't exist and a 4th definitely doesn't exist, lol africans, Iron Boy is shit.
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>>116524709
Lara Flynn Boyle nigga
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>>116525316
And just to build on this, we are now inundated with women's sports on sports networks and female commentators/reporters/talking heads to try and attract the daytime women's TV market because men have flocked to more niche websites/blogs for their sports news.
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>>116524699
Subconsciously?
I'm conscious of it, because you need to very smart to plan out a story, and only of average intelligence to come up with a story on the fly.
Making characters deliberately be a certain race or gender is forced, and not on the fly, and I know writers and directors aren't intelligent enough to pull it off, leading to a terrible story, or at best, mediocre story.
Why would I want to pay money for a mediocre film?
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>>116524272
if it ain´t got a guy in a superhero costume making jokes while punching a cgi monster it ain´t good in the eyes of the average movie goer these days
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>>116524272
No...niggerism and diversity have ruinef everything.
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>>116524272
New and interesting characters and story = effort = studios not wanting to fund it
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>>116525141
Disney is the only studio keeping the american box office from collapsing. It would be a disaster without them.
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>>116525316
latino women mostly watch telenovela from south america and lation boys don´t care about diversity but prefer watching either watch anime or white male superheros.
it´s really only blacks and muslims that cry about "representation" all the time
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>>116524824
Not that guy but maybe? Are you saying if they subbed out Tessa Thompson for a more talented, funny actor then it might not make the movie a bit better? It should be Chris Tucker or something with Chris Hemsworth, bitching about everything, that could be entertaining. Hell even sticking Melissa McCarthy in there to flop around and be goofy would be better than TT
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>>116525603
I figured as much about the boys but theres a ton of room in the middle-aged latina market. That's exactly why Bravo just started a Housewives-esque show about latinas in San Antonio and they're thinking about bringing back Housewives of Miami.
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>>116525603
Not met many blacks, but I've never met a muslim who cared about representation.
Are you sure it isn't just women that do cares about this? Women from all sexes seem to harp on about these "issues"
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>>116524824
We were actually teased with a movie that might have been enjoyable and then they took it away

I wonder what made the studio go "Wow people really like this idea, let's cancel it and make some bullshit instead"
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>>116525584
>>116525141
>the studio that's single-handedly ruining modern cinema
you can't actually be this brainwashed
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>>116524824
>Do you think if instead of Tessa they had another man in the role with Chris it would've magically made the plot and dialogue less shitty?

Probably, since it wouldn't be written woke with a bad actress in mind.
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>>116526125
The guy who said their movies are good is wrong but the guy who said Hollywood is completely financially dependent on them now is 100% right

If people ever finally get tired of the MCU, the entirety of Hollywood is gonna collapse. I can't wait.
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They need to stop casting this mutt.
She is ugly and can't really act
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>>116524809
>they need to do so on merit

Like the merit you demonstrated to get a higher position at your own career? Oh wait..
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>>116524272
Kotm is already out
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>>116524370
>>116524809
Big oof.
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>>116526131
That's just wishful thinking, it was always gonna be like that no matter who was cast. Hemsworth also does absolute garbage like this and Ghostbusters because he doesn't give a shit.
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>>116525316
>Its a shame but cinema is finally going the way of TV; the vast majority caters to women (the largest demographic for film/television entertainment)
lol I like making shit up too
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>>116524272
Everyone is trying to make the same Marvel movie without the rights these days.
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>>116526759
That movie was terrible. It was kind of fun, but it was terrible.
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>>116524272
Maybe its being trashed because the media apparatus is out to get Neison for renouncing racism?
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>>116524809
Agreed, not only thst but women and men despise weak men
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>"i don't want to work with a bunch of white dudes"
>does a mib flick
what did she mean by this
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>>116527061
As they should. And men despise all women, so what's your point?
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>>116524709
They always had female members, faggot.
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>>116525316
>cater to women and niggers
>shit starts flopping

Wow, this marketing tactic sure does keep working everytime they do it
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Producers are gravely overestimating how much people like these old franchises. Things like Predator, Terminator, MiB, Ghostbusters, etc. arent nearly as popular as they think.
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>>116527389
why actually put any effort into thing when you can just take brand and insert minorities (by minorities we mean rich white ladies, alwasy rich white ladies, never latinas, which would make more sense with the demographics)
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>>116524272
Too much diversity, wokeness, political correctness, etc. No room for fun. Can't afford to offend anyone.
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>>116524272
i can't get over how ugly that micheal jackson tribute act looks. how the fuck does that creature get roles? it's not like it can act either
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>>116524272
BF/WM Kino
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>>116525117
>>116526692
>>116526787
reminder that defending roasties on the internet won't get you laid any faster, zoomertards
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>>116527389
they are popular but people are aware when they are seeing garbage cheap knockoffs/sequels/reboots as cashgrabs and nostalgia bait

it may work with retarded gen Z children but older generations are wiser to it
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>>116527389
They're popular enough in that everyone knows them, problem is familiarity with the franchise isn't always enough to get people to watch lazy garbage. The disney live-actions are only successful because someone else wrote a good story and music for them already.
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>>116527566
I'm not defending anyone, I'm mocking embarrassing men who should be ashamed for the thoughts they have.
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>>116524824

Men can have actual chemistry that translates on screen. People forget that MIB was literally just a buddy cop film but with aliens. The concept of buddy cop literally doesn't work with women, on paper it should, but the best you get is shitty queef jokes or yas quin slay scenes.

The trailer as it is just wants to be about feminism and "funny" mascots. That doesn't draw people in, it becomes a maybe in their mind and then they never bother

All the best and most popular franchies were beloved when they starred majority white, male casts, as per happenstance of the era they were made in. When they become shit and dissapointing, it happened at the same time as they're filled with women and minorities, which creates an association in people's heads. They'll never vocalise it or really notice, but it will nudge their decision making when it comes to bothering to see movies or just staying at home.

It doesn't have to be that way but they made it, and their response will be to shove even more diversity in and hope people stop remembering what good movies look like. At some point they'll push to make celebrating old movies akin to racism/colonialism, and lower the bar as far as possible like with pop music.
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I would watch more new release movies if they would let me pay ticket price to stream at home. I aint going to a fucking theater.
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>>116524272
Diversity doesn't really ruin a movie. Look at John Wick 3. There's tons of diversity there. White, Black, Asian, middle eastern, women, even a non-binary character and none of it felt forced. It was enjoyable.
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>>116524370
No one likes it. Not only is it retarded and not entertaining, it ruins your suspension of disbelief.
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>>116526692
Yes? I don’t understand, are you assuming no one you’re interacting with has a career or something? I make $75K at 27
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>>116524809
Correct. Shills need to die.
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>>116527873
Good for her. I don't want to see her ugly mutt face, so I avoid any movie she's in.
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>>116524824
Yes if they were both white.
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>>116527653
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection
Have therapy
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>>116524272
Ummm Rocketman came out few weeks ago.
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>>116525141
>>116525584
Disney isn't sending their best
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Hollywood has forgotten how to make good movies because they only care about money. So we get this turgid era of remakes, reboot, expanded universes, cape shit. So, its no longer about the art of cinema.

Same thing happned to the music world. No one makes art anymore. All the money goes into promotion. And its been whittled down to pop and pop rap

Basically what hollywood needs to do is put james cameron into an immortal robot suit and make him the god emperor so that he can make movies forever since everyone on the planet became stupid with capitlism and identity politics
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>>116526834
not an argument
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>>116524272
is this the one the disease wanted to boycott because liam neeson?
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>>116527187
Well the thing is, studio execs are more worried about just catering and then cutting costs with quality writers and directors. They'll just a hire a company guy that will do everything the focus groups says will appeal to a mass audience.
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>>116528259
Actually it is this time. It's just an extremely retarded and passive aggressive argument.
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>>116527873
Wait, I though it was a photoshop.
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>>116528454
turns out the focus group is wrong binch
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>>116528009
A biopic is not a summer blockbuster
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>>116528746
why not
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>>116524296
>It's not 2006 anymore.
But 2006's summer blockbusters were X-men 3, Superman Returns and Pirates 2, it's even worse than what we've got now
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>>116525429
the best part is how from time to time you read someone pretending that mixed sports are possible and how some female athlete surely will complete at the same level with males.
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>>116524272

I know it'll have SJW bullshit in it and I don't like that, but I loved the first three MIB movies and this movie looks kinda dope and it has cool aliens in it, so I'll give it a chance and watch it tomorrow.
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>>116525429
imagine being this triggered over women in media lmao.
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>>116524809
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>>116524824
do you seriously not realize that you're poisoning the well by specifically casting to fill a quota before the movie even starts filming?

That by focusing on "Diversity" over making a good movie means you're NEVER going to make something good because you're a slave to your ideology?

The franchise is literally called MEN in Black
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>>116524709
"The women are always saving the planet around here. I think it's about time you change the name to Women in Black"
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>>116524809
Well, no need to go that deep into it

>>116526787
>>116524370
The rebellious people who used to be libs are now turning against it; expect people to be more openly against this stuff in 2 years. 5 years for the media to catch up
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>>116529613
There won't be a "media" in 5 years.
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>>116524272

WHITE MEN ARE THE BEST AT EVERYTHING, BUILDING CIVILIZATIONS, WAR, RAPE, GENOCIDE, YOU NAME IT WE'VE WRITTEN THE FUCKING BOOK ON IT WHILE WOMEN, NIGGERS, FAGGGOTS AND THEIR WHITE NUMALE KEKOLD BETA LAPDOG ENABLERS BRING EVERYTHING TO RUIN BUT FRET NOT FOR WE WILL TRAVEL TO THE STARS AND LEAVE THESE DEGENERATES TO BURN ON THIS ROCK!!! ONLY ASIAN WOMEN WILL BE PRMITTED TO COME WITH US AND OUR HAPA PROGENY WILL CONQUER THE UNIVERSE TO HELL AND BEYOND INFINITY!!!FACT!!! https://youtu.be/CIGHCoVzqtk
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>>116524272
Any blockbuster movie not affiliated with Disney will be review bombed.
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>>116529678
I hope you're right.
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>>116526125
It's easy to blame Disney but all they're doing is giving the plebs what they want.

The reason everything's a franchise or remake now is because plebs won't go to see anything they don't already recognize. You can spend 100 million in marketing an original IP ad still get a soft opening or just make Will Smith the genie and watch dipshits line up opening night despite everyone agreeing it looks like ass.

The reason capeshit has taken over is because of its merchandising prowess and easily digestible milquetoast format where you can have copious violence but no gore, lots of innuendo but no sex, and easily understood jokes nobody has to think about. It's literally *sigh* fun for the whole family. Quality r-rated kino will attract actual movie lovers one or two at a time, but the new avengers movie brings in soccer mom Jenny and her four kids, who all go out and buy the toys and lunchboxes and tie-in cereal afterwards.

Movies are a commercial product that a few people have managed to elevate into an art form but the commercial aspect always wins in the end. Disney is winning because it's what people buy the most, because people are stupid. But it's not a trick. We had options, and the majority willingly chose this.
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>>116524272
From the moment I heard the goblina queen was in it i knew it was gonna be shit
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>>116529248
You responded to an incredibly calm and tame comment, Anon. Were you that fixated on ironically appropriating the term ‘triggered’ as an anti-right put down that you just jumped in on the first post you could find?
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FFH will do gangbusters for Sony in a few weeks so it doesn't matter
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>>116528746
Actually it is a musical fantasy biopic not just a basic life story. The film has taken many artistic freedoms and it is not 100% historically accurate, especially with the songs. About a quarter of the film is a musical anyways so that also differentiates Rocketman from most other biopics.
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>>116524709
linda fiorentino was an agent
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>>116527864

You're right, unforced diversity doesn't ruin movies. Forced diversity ruins movies. Diversity for the sake of filling up a race/gender quota to appease SJWs is bad, but diversity that is somehow relevant to the story of the movie is okay.
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>>116526125
Really?
Disney don't hire actresses with fat ass or big tits
Women can not wear cleavage in any Disney movie
Actresses can not be naked
Can not use revealing costumes
Imagine how the upcoming Fox movies will be
>Imagine a remake of Revenge of the Nerds
Only men naked will be allowed
Now see the movies in Europe
Disney killed the industry
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>>116524296
Would have gone with 2005 as last year of fun Hollywood blockbusters before china took over
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>>116524272
Hollywood isn’t about fun anymore. Now we have ISSUES that must be RECOGNIZED. People are tired of rehashes that just want to lecture the audience on their moral failings.
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>>116530152
lamo how deluded can that goblina be?
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>>116525785
From what the writers did with the Lego movie 2, having the villain be a redpilled christian white male, you wouldn't have enjoyed that either.
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>>116524272
Seems like the public likes it, and that's what actually matters, right godzilla and alita bros?
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>>116524272
Get woke
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>>116526692
He probably did. Women have to have it handed to them.
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>>116524824
Yes
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>Seethe commercials
>Expected the little alien to be cute voiceless pet thing
>It's that annoying Indian guy who plays the same character every movie, playing the same character but as an ugly little alien
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>>116527653
>embarrassing men who should be ashamed for the thoughts they have.
When did you mock yourself?
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>>116529248
Only triggered person seems to be you
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>>116524272
It’s about the money. Check the box office numbers, then we’ll talk
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>>116525117
>>116526692
What’s your discord, senpai?
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>>116524809
Correct
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>>116524824
Yes it would literally be better
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>>116524809
All the (you)s from the trannies and cucks show you're right.
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>>116525610
How about anyone instead of that talentless mess would have been better.
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>>116524558
>saves
saves or "saves"?
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>>116527653
Have therapy, with a male psychologist.
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>>116524824
Let's just stick with the pairing him up with someone from the Ragnarok cast since that's what they seemed to be going for:

>Hemsworth + Ruffalo = slightly better
>Hemsworth + Hiddleston = better
>Hemsworth + Urban = yes
>Hemsworth + Hopkins = wew lad
>Hemsworth + Goldblum = holy fuck this would unironically be great why didn't they do it oh wait I know because not black or female enough so who cares if it would be kino
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>>116528118
This post was going so well, and then suddenly
>MUH CAMERON!!
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>>116526692
By your response I can tell he hit a nerve with you.

It's not a surprise most women get promotions based on political factors rather than merit.
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>>116528009
I keep thinking it's like the Rocketeer, but then remember it's about Elton John.
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>>116524272
>3.5 stars or higher
??????
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>>116524272
So, is this payback from Liam Neesons nigger lynching escapades?
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>>116525141
This but unironically. Can't wait until 2025 when all movies are either indie art films or Disney, because Disney is clearly the only major studio capable of doing mass entertainment properly.
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>B-B-But Disney buys all the reviewers!
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>>116528683
This. You think anyone really knows what they want?
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>>116533334
For big movies. Aladdin was relatively small.
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>>116533036
>Hemsworth + Goldblum = holy fuck this would unironically be great why didn't they do it oh wait I know because not black or female enough so who cares if it would be kino
Isn't Jeff Goldblum black? He's at least ambiguously brown.
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>>116533334
Critics hate Will Smith more than Trump. Their hatred of him exceeds their love for Disney. If Will Smith was in Endgame for even a second, the movie would have a 40% on RT.
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>>116534919
>yo Thanos take this!
Why didn't Will Smith kill Thanos in Infinity War?
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>>116524272
People are getting worn out on design by committee bullshit, and white people and men are slowly getting pushed away by wokeness.
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>>116535128
Whexit
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>>116524272
because corporate interference and dumb executives who fail to read the time
listen here
remember the first men in black? it was an absolute blockbuster master piece. you had will smith in his prime actually making an effort on screen. his character was written very clichéd but with lee jones as the old mentor to keep him in line it just worked perfectly.
the scenes have very little cgi and all the effects used served their means and weren't there for the sake of being flashy (except for that tunnel scene maybe)
let's talk action there's very little action in it. count how many times both fire their fazer guns. K shoots his standard issue once. J shoots his noisy cricket two or three times at most. Then in the end both fire one shot from their big blasters. That's it. The movie didn't rely on special effects to make up for lack of character and story it used special effects to complement the story it wanted to tell
fuck those new flicks
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>>116527696
It can work if the actress is a comedian.
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>>116524699
Yup, the more shitty movies that noticably fulfill quotas come out the more people associate diversity with poor quality.
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>>116527983
>>116531976
>>116532645
>>116532931
By far the most embarrassing men yet.
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>>116535922
Diversity is inherently poor quality because the put politics in front of story. Luckily the Jews haven't figured out how to make a good story before putting minorities in them or we'd be even worse off.
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>>116534395
>Aladdin was relatively small.
>$183 million budget
What the fuck are you talking about?
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The recent Planet of the Apes flicks were great.
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>>116536628
I only really liked Dawn.
Rise was okay, the story was super predictable though. War was a competent flick, and I enjoyed it just fine in the moment of watching it, but it was also kind of bland and forgettable.
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>>116536761
I liked Rise best, actually. Then Dawn, then War.
They're all good summer flicks though, and the CGI was wonderful.
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>>116535779

I completely agree with you.
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>>116524272
they sold out and money laundered for inflation
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>>116535779
Don't forget the music was fantastic
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>>116524370
So is inserting this ugly bitch into every fucking film.
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>>116536628
Based on the trailers for this MIB movie, it looks like they're having the inexperienced woman be the level headed one versus the experienced agent being a rash goofball. Part of what worked well in the original MIB movie was you had Will Smith essentially faking his way through trying to do the right thing with the job, which also meant showing off the world for the audience as they went along for the ride with him.

This is versus this remake where it sounded like they had the woman be far too capable. Which makes it sound liek the usual problem that happens in movies with too much diversity, the end up treating certain things as off limits for ridicule like how it can be difficult to have female characters being idiots in comparison to the man with them. Or having black people acting like the butt of a joke when around white characters.

Makes some of the interactions feel too predictable due to the cookie cutter nature of such 'diverse' characters.
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>>116524272
Nignog feminazi hates WHITE Men except Kike men

Hollywood is finished
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>>116525316
Woman hate this shit too. Upyou think I want my Western film & tv to look like Nigeriastan? I actually want to be overwhelmed with gorgeous, talented white men and only the highest quality actresses, which excludes Tessa Thompson and all like her. I particularly detest the current main Marvel actresses except Paltrow, Olsen, Saldana.
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>>116525361
Spider-Man is flawless, fuck off. Only zendaya spoils his otherwise great little film.
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>>116525610
This.
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>>116537514
No
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>>116534884
He's an dark iron jew.
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>>116527101
She loves the unearned fame from riding their coattails doesn’t she? Typical libtard racist.
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>>116524809
jannies got upset I see
shut it down!
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>>116537670
This so much well said ,
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>>116524809
Proof that the janny is a discord tranny.
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>>116539184
He's seething desu, I think his dilating wand is stuck.
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>>116537804
>>116539184

What was the deleted post about? Genuinely curious.
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>>116540935
> >>116524370
>Its also inaccurate. Men have been the providers and leaders of society for thousands of years becuase that is our biological and evolutionary conditioning. If women want to overtake that role they need to do so on merit, not on forcefed social doctrine.
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>>116524370
“strong female is smarter than men” plus "everything is a reboot with no nod to the beloved original" equals "nobody gives a fuck about movies anymore".
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>>116524334

this, they put no effort in
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>>116524528

but people still like him as Thor
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>>116526251
>If people ever finally get tired of the MCU, the entirety of Hollywood is gonna collapse. I can't wait.

they won't tho. MCU is smart enough to diversify into generes and keep things interesting. Eternals and Shang-Chi will be hits.
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>>116541074
Janny has deleted many such posts, yet keeps the shill posts up. Coincidence?



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