>documentary about over-incarceration of black people>name of documentary is "13"What did they mean by this?
>>116511386it refers to the 13th amendment you cocksucker
The 13th Amendment, which theoretically abolished slavery, has a clause in it that basically lets you use prisoners as slave labor.>Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.
>>116511386It's another "black people after in person because of racism not their own actions and a shit culture".
>>116511693Makes sense, prisons aren't free, why should I pay for a child rapist's meal?
please meme responsibly
>>116511386netflix is subtley racist. By pushing all black remakes they are making everyone sick of leftist bullshit. Now they'll be trying to google the name of this show and accidentally learn 13 = 56
Black people should be allowed to commit crime with no reprecutions because we noticed black people commit more crime and we think that's racist.This is ..mat it's core what black lives matter really means.
>>116511386I'm beyond sick of all this shit.
>>116511709Exactly this. They don't even bother to deny they commit crimes anymore. They just say they shouldnl't go to jail because they're black.
>documentary states crime rates have rapidly decreased since the onset of the "war on crime", mass incarceration, and mandatory lengthy sentencing>this somehow proves that the war on crime is unnecessary and not workingWhat did they mean by this?
>>116512829Maybe you shouldn't go to jail for 5 years because you were carrying less than a gram of crack, just so the prison industry can make a quick buck and pass along the perks to the lawmakers that helped along the way. Nobody's talking about pardoning murderers.
>>116515265>he actually believes the war on drugs worked Destabilizing Mexico to own the libs.
>>116515341Stop doing drugs
>>116515341Maybe you shouldn't be carrying crack.
>>116511780Because if you don’t you’ll starve.
>>116511386>"black people are arrested three times more often that white people for marijuana therefore cops are racist">what if that instead means black people are three times as likely to be carrying weed around?>".... Reeeeeee"
>>116511386Oh look, another one-sided documentary by this failed movie director.
>>116511709>after in personNigga what
>>116515473>>116515448Okay, bootlicker. I'm just saying, my argument is stronger than your bitching.
>>116515368I agree with this. Our whole continent would be better of if we just economically isolated the commies here and then gave them aid when their regimes fell.
>>116515560>"are in prison" Prob a phoneposter
>>116515584>when we topple their regimes by funding insurgent forces Fixed that American foreign policy for you. Enjoy the thousands of refugees during your children's lifetime. And their most likely support for them lmao.
>>116511386Someone photoshop a % instead of the th.
>>116511386WHITEY GIB REPARATIONS WE DINDU NUFFIN
>>116511386Why do NIGGERS have to cry so much about this shit? Being a slave in America wasn't even all that bad.
>>116515497Do you know who I am? How did you figure it out?
>>116511693If you don't want to be a """"""slave"""""" stop killing people.
They can't make a show about black people without crime being forefront in their minds, so the show will inevitably be about how black people can't help doing crimes because white people somehow force them to do it.
>>116511386maybe if black people didn't have such a casual view on crime they include it in their mainstream culture this wouldn't be a problem
>>116515576All you're saying is you shouldn't be punished for a crime. It's not as if it's not known to be illegal.It's not hard to not be carrying around crack cocaine. Billions of people manage to do it every day.
Blacks are a violent race. I don't hate them, they're just kinda shitty. Fantastic sense of humor though.
>>116516012>>116516123>possession of drugs>crime Who am I hurting except the interests of the prison industry, bootlicker? Isn't weed legal in your country already?
>>116516304Who are you going to sell the drugs to, drug dealer scum?
>>116515473They'll get em for something else then
>>116515621the more refugees we get, the more right-wing grows in popularity. eventually it'll get to a point where people realize this whole cult of equality thing they've got going on actually doesn't make sense and just revert back to their natural state of ethnonationalism, whereupon we can secede. or expel them all. depends on how things end up turning out
>>116516304>Who am I hurtingif a user, yourself. even if you don't care, I care that crackheads ruin the lives of everyone else around them. you will receive help whether you want it or not.if a dealer, your customers, and all the people in your customers' lives. you will receive the bullet whether you want it or not.
>>116516934Then stop doing that other thing too. Generally stop committing crimes, it's not that hard. If you think a law is unjust, there are ways to make your voice heard and perhaps even make a difference in the future. That's what civilized people do. Ignoring the law doesn't mean you won't get the consequences
>>116515368Definitely. As someone who lives on the Rio Grande, Mexico is a mostly completely fucked place. Zetas own military grade rifles and humvees.
>>116516821>drug dealer scum They called bootleggers much worse but it was the government's retarded reasoning that led to organized crime. So. >>116517087>if a user, yourself. even if you don't careLmao, imagine being an authoritarian cocksucker.
>>116517087>crackheads ruin the lives of everyone else around themYou are not wrong, but at this point you can justify pretty much any negative action towards oneself as a crime.Not finishing your studies properly? You cause pain to your parents. Crime.Not visiting your grandparents? It causes them pain. Crime.Lying to your friends about something important to them? Same.There's no such thing as an aciton that literally only has an effect on themselves.
>>116517127>Then stop doing that other thing tooWhat else do you want to me avoid, nanny state? How about cameras everywhere so you make sure nobody does the crime? Hell, we could teach kids to tell on their parents for smoking a joint on a lazy Saturday. Imagine the possibilities.
>>116515368War on drugs didn’t work because elites still want drugs and drugs pour in ever easier since the “war”The CIA is not on the side of Americans
"Have you ever considered not murdering people and not doing drugs" ? - me
>>116517127Why do they let whites get away with the those same crimes?
>>116517219Criminal behaviourCool strawman
>>116515368Mexico was always a shitholeAnd libs own themselves.
>>116515341"Le prison industry"Maybe you should eduacte yourself on why these nigs go to prison, hint it's not just for crack.
>>116517261>smoking a joint>criminalI keep forgetting non-whites haven't legalized weed. Or alcohol, it seems.
>>116515448I can do whatever the fuck I want to do you fucking nigger. I'm sure you wouldn't like someone telling you what to do or do you you stupid little pussy ass cuckhold
>>116517207this. dealing drugs to kids is one thing but possessing drugs as an adult shouldn't land you in jail or make your life worse, because chances are of the police catch you in the middle of the night with crack or meth, your life isn't going that great
>>116517307Hint: a large majority of black men go to prison every year for shitty drug charges. But keep shilling that for profit incarceration, neocon.
>>116511709>black people after in personexcellent demonstration of the superiority of the white race
>>116515576>bootlicker>For not breaking the law multiple times
>>116515536that statistic includes whites who were let off easy with a ticket compared to blacks arrested for the same crime, so I know you thought you were being clever but consider that as well
>>116517312You asked what I wanted you to avoid, to which I answered: criminal behaviour. The rest of your post was called out for the strawman it is and then dismissed
>>116515621>thousands of refugees during your children's lifetimeNa they are stuck in Mexico now.
>>116517344bix nood mufugga
>>116517252Lowerclass white men actually get killed by cops more than blacks. And also i looked up the stats and the prison population is like half black and half white, with blacks only being like 3 percent more than whites.Basically, niggers are just retarded and want a free pass to commit crimes
>>116516304I agree I also feel the same about child porn.
>>116517307How about you you shoot yourself in the head, boomer? You're getting too old
>>116517348>DAE BROKED THE LAWThe adults are talking, sweetie. >>116517371>smoking a joint >criminal behavior A literal lie if we're talking about at least 10 US states. But go off, bootlicker.
>>116517340or it's because they have prior convictions, were violating their probation, committed another offence in the course of their arrest, or behaved badly in custody and court
>>116516934Niggers are great at commiting crimes.
>>116517404>bootlicker is a pedo This shit writes itself.
>>116515341>Carry gram of crack>Warning>Carry gram of crack>Community service>Carry gram of crack>1 month prison>Carry gram of crack>5 years prisonThat’s how it works when you’re a repeat offender. Not to mention it’s almost never isolated, last one should be “Carry gram of crack, violate your parole, and be found with an unregistered gun”.
>>116517340>shitty drug charges.They aren't shitty they are repeat offenders and usually have firearms on them. Maybe just maybe they should stop breaking the law.
>>116517422dilate and go back to chapo, tranny
>>116517340>profit incarceration,It's all a conspiracy. They keep the black man does for da profit we dindu
>>116517369>that statistic includes whites who were let off easy with a ticket compared to blacks arrested for the same crimesee >>116517445
>>116517467>>116517474Carrying a gram of crack shouldn't even be a crime, you stupid bootlicker. That's precisely my point. You're literally explaining how the prison industry works these people for a profit. Holy fuck, the absolute state of boomers ITT.
>>116517371This the type of fool who would call 911 on himself just so he can beg the cop to pack his fucking asshole in like the little bitchboy he is
>>116517510>or they have prior convictions or some other shit i don't know lmao fuck le niggers xD Okay, bootlicker. Check the stats. None of what you said is true.
>>116517525Stop doing illegal drugs, crackhead
>>116517252They don't. how about your stop lying?
>>116517445generally it's because people aren't solely arrested for carrying weed, but drug offenses are added when they get arrested for some other crime. whites commit less crime, so they are arrested less often, so cops find weed less often
>>116517422I never said anything about joints. Also, it's either against the law and you shouldn't do it in that state or it's not against the law and you won't get punished for it. Not sure what point you think you're refuting but you're not very good at it.
>>116517562Stop profiting from incarcerating poor people, bootlicker. You're literally the elite's useful idiot.
>>116517549after you: https://thealternativehypothesis.org/index.php/2016/04/15/is-the-criminal-justice-system-racist/
>>116517525yes it should you degenerate freakdilate and smoke crack
>>116517422>The adults are talking, sweetie.Yeah they are. They are the one attempting to reason with you.
>>116517579>I never said anything about jointsOf course, you've been deliberately avoiding it so your argument makes sense. But smoking a joint in the US hardly criminal behavior. It's even taxed in some of those states. You're out of your fucking element, boomer.
>ctrl+f "bootlicker">8 results>its all the same seething chapo redditorcutecall some people chuds next
>>116517549>None of what you said is true.Actually here was right.
>>116517592>Poor people spending all their money on drugsSeems accurate.
>>116517607>reasoning >DON'T DO THIS IT'S BAD FOR YOU WHO CARES ABOUT YOUR FREEDOM DON'T YOU KNOW ITS ILLEGALIf only you were Jewish. Maybe then you'd actually listen to this authoritarian drivel.
>>116517632Chuds is much better used against chapotrapos
>>116517604I seriously hope you contract HIV and die a very slow, very VERY painful death from AIDS
>>116517678im not a faggot so obviously i have zero chance of getting aids
>>116517633Not even close. The stats take into account prior convictions and "warnings". Blacks are still more likely to go to prison for meaningless drug offenses. Just admit you were wrong and let's be done with it, bootlicker.
>>116517624I avoid it because it's besides the point. I even said why it's besides the point. Keep talking to yourself though.>>116517525Refer to >>116517127
>>116515368there is no "war on drugs." if the state really wanted to stop drug production and proliferation, all they'd have to do is send special operations forces into drug shitholes and have them take care of it. mexico would be drug free in 6 months or less if people like delta force were in charge
>>116517691Looks like I'm gonna have to ram your ass in like the little bitch you are you fucking faggot
>>116517704>because it's besides the point lmao, you're fuming alright. Admit you were wrong, boomie.>>116517725>they'd have to do is send special operations forces into drug shitholes and have them take care of itWhat do you think Obama and Calderon did for 6 years straight, dummy? It did shit for the regions.
>>116517692>Blacks are still more likely to go to prison for meaningless drug offensesno they're not
>>116511780Because creating an incentive to imprison people for cheap labor is bad.
>>116517737>Drug users are violent rapistsPerhaps we should get rid of them
>>116517592>poor peopleIf you can afford drugs or cigs then you are not poor, you fatass white libshit.
>>116517592>turning the proles into crack addicts to own the richYeah this sounds like a brilliant idea lmao
>>116517752>What do you think Obama and Calderon did for 6 years straight, dummy?gunrunning and police/military corruption, mostly
They should just set up stings in every major city and offer people drugs to buy and if they choose to buy them send the druggies to Venezuela with an edict that if they ever return to America they will be shot on sight.Everybody is happy. Lefties get to live in socialist paradise. We get hundreds of billions in savings.
>>116517760Perhaps you should snap your fucking neck, you'll be doing everyone, especially your family, a huge favor doing so. Nobody cares about you you cop cock sucking homo
>>116517752Obama was too busy kickstarting slavery in Libya.
>>116511386Ava Duvaney? that was my favorite pornstar four years ago, she's doing nigger documentaries now?
>>116517752Not an argument
>>116517856Bring me your ass then, you little pussy
>>116517838Watch out guys we got an Internet tough guy over here
>>116517838I'm not a drug abuser leeching funds from my family and the government, so I'm pretty happy with my life
>>116517875Watch out guys we have ourselves a little fucking crying bitchboy, come back and sit on daddy's cock you little faggot
>>116517838>familyAre you sure you can use such problematic terms? What will komrades in your commune think about you using such fascism loaded words?
>>116517878>posting on 4chanYou know how I know you're a fucking liar?
I’m glad every socialist is such a little bitch boy. If you guys were likeable you might win elections
>>116517945I doubt he goes outside enough to know where to get drugs. So what he says is accurate.
>>116518005>comparing smoking a harmless drug to violence
>>116517916Have sex with someone other than your dad
>>116511386Blacks bring bad luck.
Niggers: Fuck the police, sell crack, nine in my waistband jumpin niggers in the hood!Also Niggers: Why de police be mean to me!Pavement apes were a mistake.
>>116518055I was fucking your mom when I posted that, I came so deep in her asshole it's your turn now you gay virgin
What the fuck happened to the thread?
>>116518043guess what's involved with producing and distributing that harmless drug. spoiler: it's savage violence
>>116518166Same thing that happens everywhere, the nigger got involved and ruined it. Gas them all 1488
>>116518190which can be prevented by just legalizing it, its impossible to stop the source. Just let it be, like alcohol
>>116518166Some lolberg pedo got mad most people don't like crack addicts
>>116518166niggerlover realised he had no evidence to support his claims, so he gave up
>>116515341Yeah because crackheads are peaceful like Ving people who don't steal, murder, and rape.
>>116518190Legalization and decriminalization takes care of that. Do you think you're smart by highlighting the main problem with the war on drugs? We already know.
>>116518257If this is how you perceive the world, you need to go out more
>>116517602>Bubba's blog is muh source
>>116518244legalising it won't do anything as long as it's still being produced in the same places by the same violent criminals. you'd need to create an alternative, legal market
>>116517387The stats only come from convictions dumbass
>>116517692Because they commit more crimes along with their other crimes and me often. Idiot
>>116518190>Brings misery and pain to your family and loved ones>Destroys your body and mind>Harmless
>>116518341the sources are in the article
>>116518369I literally told you that isn't the case. At all. It's perfectly reflected on the same stats you'll probably quote like an unhinged retard.
>>116518295the main problem with the war on drugs is that it's a sham. do you think yourself smart for parroting the "legalise and decriminalise!" mantra? eat shit faggot
>>116518410And your were wrong.
>>116517602>https://thealternativehypothesis.orgWhat did he mean by this? >>116518413>WOW UM DO YOU ACTUALLY THINK ABOUT *FIXING* THINGS INSTEAD OF GROVELING OVER FOR THE NEOCONS, WOW, WHAT A FAG
>>116518350Yeah it's not like we have actual dispensaries now in states where it's legal for recreational use
>>116518450I wasn't, but keep posting those boomer blogs. They amuse me. >theincrediblehardpilledtruth.info lmao
>>116518463The boomer thinks we're going to import Mexico's illegal weed when it's legal here. He probably thinks this the cartel drives the fucking trucks.
>>116515497Severely fucking underrated. Bravo.
>>116518413That problem with the war on drugs is it's not a war. You aren't going to stop it without taking out the source countries.
>>116518463yeah demarcus gets the weed for his blunts from them. not from tre or lashawn on the streetcorner
>>116518350Or--and I know this may truly be shocking to the rotten brains of drug fiends--actually have laws against drug CONSUMPTION. No more third strikes, no more tolerated amounts for personal use, no more lenient treatments. One instance of drug use and you're gone. Just like in Japan, Korea and Singapore, where drug usage is almost minimal. Wanna stop teenage drug usage? Throw the parents in jail if drugs are found on their premises. No more "those aren't my drugs, I didn't" excuses. It's exactly why the alleged "prohibition" of alcohol failed: consumption was not criminalized so booze peddlers would be busted without affecting the demand of alcohol, which meant supply never stopped. Cut the demand, cut the supply.
>>116515341>Maybe you shouldn't go to jail for 5 years because you were carrying less than a gram of crackMaybe you should if it's your dozenth offense.
>>116518370>Destroys body and mindSource? >Brings misery and pain to your family and loved onesThe propaganda surrounding cannabis has boomers like yourself scared by it so if a parent found out you were smoking cannabis of course they will flip their shit. They grew up with false information beaten into their heads, it's only recently that it's becoming more accepting. To be fair, I only agree to that if you have no self control and are a NEET
>>116518567If it's decriminalized, who cares where he gets it from? He could grow his own if he wanted. You can brew your shitty beer if you want.
>>116518453>What did he mean by this?it means you have no data and no argument. stay mad>*FIXING* THINGSstart by killing drug cartels and the corrupt spic cops and politicians who enable and protect them
>>116518282>Yeah because crackheads are peaceful like Ving people who don't steal, murder, and rapeReally, really appreciating that Oxford comma, Anon.
>>116518605Okay, Duterte. Enjoy your literal hellhole.
>>116518024>LOL, this RETARD doesn't even smoke CrAcK The absolute state of leftist fags
>>116518673>KILL KILL KILL WHO CARES ABOUT THE DRUG USERS BY THE WAY THIS IS TO STOP DRUG USE >>116518696
>>116518673>start by killing drug cartels and the corrupt spic cops and politicians who enable and protect themLol
>>116518552Yes you can, by targeting the source of the demand, e.g. drug users. If the USA would adopt the drug laws of Singapore, the drug rate would plummet. 10 years and a canning no questions asked. No first strike, no "amount for personal use", just the righteous hardship of punishment.
>>116518727druggies can't use what isn't being produced or imported>>116518737yeah dead spics is pretty funny. especially the ones who cut people's hearts out and dicks off in order to terrorise the population into submission
>>116518772>If the USA would adopt the drug laws of Singapore, the drug rate would plummetOf course it would; disappearing undesirables in the night like a commie death squad will do wonders to your crime statistics.
>>116515341>people of color are disproportionately thrown in jail>crime statistics>those are made up. and people of color also get harsher sentences for the same crimes>repeat offenses>those are also made upLegit conversation I had not two months ago. The problem with the Left's logic is that it's incredibly selective and chooses to ignore a great deal to make it work. There are more blacks in jails because they misbehave more - it's a sad fact, but a fact it is. If you want to be constructive maybe start looking at why that is - MLK knew and called the community out on it - and what to do about it.
>>116518835Another stupid boomer that doesn't understand the main argument is decriminalizing drugs, not pardoning sentences. I can't believe you were mad enough to post this 170 posts into the thread. A cursory glance would tell you other retards tried this shit.
>>116518696Ah yes, the famous crime-ridden countries of Korea, Singapore (a multi-cultural country btw) and Japan. If only they adopted more liberal policies vis à vis drugs so they could reach the enlightement of the UK, South Africa, California, etc. I wish I were as smart as you. Maybe smoking some of that sticky sticky green stuff will help me?
>>116518667>If it's decriminalized, who cares where he gets it from?if it's not being produced locally and under regulation, he will be getting it from murderous criminal spics, and nothing will change
>>116518886>(a multi-cultural country btw)lmao, play those identity politics, boomer. I'm sure they're a thriving, diverse culture when blood isn't flowing down the streets. >>116518896I just told you he could grow his own.Why would dealers bother with costly operations like transporting it from Mexico when they could just grow it on their turf? Why are so you so fucking dumb, anon?
>>116518859decriminalising drugs will almost certainly encourage their consumption, and there is an argument to be made against that. drugs are destructive and breed antisocial behaviour like theft and violence. the libertarian argument doesn't work in practice. go look at seattle
>>116518962>lmao, play those identity politics, boomer. I'm sure they're a thriving, diverse culture when blood isn't flowing down the streets. Wrong. I was anticipating the argument that Korea and Japan are highly homogeneous and thus cannot be compared to the US. That you chose to focus on this just shows how badly you have been intellectually checkmated.
>>116518962niggers in detroit and baltimore are not going to grow and produce their own weed>Why would dealers bother with costly operations like transporting it from Mexico when they could just grow it on their turf? because they would be able to grow more of it for cheaper? if legalisation and regulation increases the cost, they will try to find ways around that
>>116519030>heh i was actually anticipating for you to make a bullshit argument based on my bait, but you failed to take it so you lost Wow. >>116519047>niggers in detroit and baltimore are not going to grow and produce their own weedOkay, lawmaker. Why don't you go back to aiding Israel with 38 billion dollars? That'll fix the US right up.
>>116518481Don't need to. You seem to ignore all stats and studies on this subject.
>>116519047>niggers in detroit and baltimore are not going to grow and produce their own weedWrong, they are in DC. You wouldn't believe the amount of weed delivery services that have popped up in the last 6 months or so, its all just brothers who grow their own.
>>116519081>you seem to ignore all of my boomer blogsI wonder why.
>>116519076Have you got an explanation for the fact that rich, law-governed countries that chose to criminalize drug use and actually enforced their laws have the lowest drug usage in the world? Because the lolbergtardien belief is that drug criminalization fails to achieve what they have achieved.
>>116517369Spend a day watching bodycam videos. I've a suspicion the manner in which the black folk behaved had something to do with their arrest.
>>116519076i'm an antisemite and i want israel wiped out. eat shit
>>116515576>actions have consequences>BOOTLICKER!!!!!!!!You people are so fucking retarded it physically hurts me a little bit.
>>116519161The ESL energy emanating from this post is strong. No, anon, Singapore isn't a magical place devoid of violence or drugs. Duterte just likes to kill people to make it seem that way.
>>116519188>fuck israel >*votes for Trump in 2020*
>>116517828this is my kind of thinking.they send us drugs, we send them deadheads
>>116519250>BLUMPH!!obsessed. never voted for him. any more non sequiturs from the leftist playbook you want to share?
>>116519222>Duterte>SingaporeI can now safely conclude that I won this debate.
>>116519289>obsessedWith Israel? You bet, those 38 billion dollars weren't easy to get.
>>116519152because you don't believe in facts, evidence and data
>>116519161Doesnt seem to work for the United States. Should probably follow what Portugal did since they were having a huge problem with it much like the US are right now
>>116515341i want people who sell hard drugs to receive the death penalty.i want people who buy it recreationally to be imprisoned for at least five yearsi want actually, legitimately addicted people to receive helpif the prisons do this AND make a buck doing it, i wouldn't give a shit
>>116519321no, with trump. i never said anything about trump. you randomly inserted trump into the discussion because you can't imagine anyone disagreeing with you not being some facebook boomer conservative retard. trump lives in your head rent free
>>116519358THIS.GAS THE NORMIES, DRUG WAR NOW. ONLY TAKE THE DRUGS DR. SHEKELBERG GIVES YOU, HE KNOWS BEST
>>116519416even legal hard drugs, cocksucker
>>116511386My local newspaper did an "expose" about how blacks were twice as likely to be arrested for jaywalking than whites, and this was supposed to be proof the police were racist. But in my own personal experience, 99 times out of 100, if there's someone walking really slow directly into traffic and not even looking left or right and not wearing any reflective clothing even though its night time, its a black man or woman.
>>116519416>HEROIN, CRACK AND METH FOR EVERYONE! IT'S ALL GOOD BRUH!
>>116518999>decriminalising drugs will almost certainly encourage their consumptionRemember when alcohol was banned by law and people just stopped drinking altogether?
>>116519152Because they don't fit debunked lie.
>>116519473With their faces in their phones.
>>116517369>that statistic includes whites who were let off easy with a ticket compared to blacks arrested for the same crime,When is this lie going to die?
>>116519511Drinking wasn't made illegal. Production, possession and distribution was.
>>116519485Yes goyim, dont ingest heroin or meth and if you do we're going to send you to jails, for a profit of course because Mr. Goldblatt the prison owner needs a new boat. Now here, please take this oxycontin for your pain, and heres some adderall to help you pay attention better.
>>116519561Never because it can't be squashed. The only way it can be debunked is to prove a negative, which is virtually impossible.
>>116519511prohibition actually lowered overall alcohol consumption, especially among the poor. it just didn't stop the production and distribution, creating the violent black market
>>116519589>if you oppose illicit drugs that means you support legal pharmaceuticalsyour strawmen are so boring
>>116518886is this your hobby??
>>116519589they should just be shot desu
>>116519341It doesn't work in the US because the laws are extremely lenient on consumers. It may take multiple offenses before a drug user is sent to jail. Fines and community services do not deter criminals. By the time they get to jail for a significant time, drug users are already addicted and often hardened criminals. To actually deter drug use, you need harsh and swift punishment, and more importantly to treat it as a moral and societal crime on the part of the user, not as a disease (which it is not, since drug use is voluntary).As for the alleged Portuguese miracle, it has very little to show for it and is mostly toted by drug advocates for propaganda purposes. A very inconvenient truth is that the drug laws prior to the 2001 decriminalization were practically not enforced. As officials at the time said, the 2001 policy change was essentially officializing what was already in place, with the difference that more money would be spent on drug treatment. So there is in fact no distinct before and after in the Portuguese drug experiment. And Portugal is by no means a paradise now. It really depends on what metric you use to judge it. Drug-related deaths have slightly decreased due to the increased spending in healthcare. However, drug consumption has greatly risen. And, related or not, so has the rate of petty crime. So if your aim is to produce of society of doped-up individuals sustained by tax-funded health care with no apparent impact on crime itself, there I guess you could consider the Portuguese experiment a success. I do not.
>>116518859>Another stupid boomerI'm 29>that doesn't understand the main argument is decriminalizing drugs, not pardoning sentencesThat's a different conversation. I replied to your post based on your post and how it correlated to the post you were replying to, the implication being that blacks are unfairly targeted and given higher sentences due to their race, which simply isn't true. Whether or not you think crack should be legalized, it hasn't been. If you get caught with it, it's a crime. However you feel about that, it's a thing at the moment so either lobby against it or get over it.>I can't believe you were mad enough to post this 170 posts into the threadFunny assertion considering the majority of the posts ITT are you being buttblasted te fuck and throwing around buzzwords in place of an actual argument. I know I won't get a serious reply to this because from the rest of this thread I'm fairly sure you aren't capable of one. Just know, you're an idiot. Your understanding of the concept of personal responsibility is that of a child, you resort to name calling because you lack the maturity to discuss things like an adult, your entire argument is predicated not on logic but your feelings and your inability to apply them to an understanding of how the world works, and you have the self awareness of a house cat. You're a child, mate. You can kick and scream and throw your rattle out of the pram all you want in this thread but until you grow up your life will always be one of conflict and frustration. You can take the last word and you can insult me all you like, but the world you want will never exist, and the more you cry about it like a retard the more you will turn against you. People like you are the reason the left aren't taken seriously and ultimately the reason the west is shifting harder and harder right. When your brown friends are deported and the state stops paying for your estrogen pills, its yourself you'll have to thank.
>>116519614>>116519511It didn't stop production, because it did not target consumption. No one will bother with production if the target demographic rots in jail (and deservedly so).
>commit disproportionate amounts of crimes>go to jail>compare it to slavery Eveyone laughs about this when they think they are among company that keeps theie confidence.
The guy calling everyone a bootlicker is legit retarded.
Did the poster that believed Duterte was the leader of Singapore quit the thread out of embarrassment?
>>116520062unfortunately most people actually still believe the black oppression narrative. the average person still believes, without ever having questioned it, that blacks are unfairly treated and live in a constant state of victimisation. it's just taken for granted. but that's what media propaganda has been telling people for 60 years, so it's very hard to break that programming
I don't get what's so hard about just not breaking the law.Like I know you think crack possession shouldn't be illegal, but it is, so you are sti objectively going to get in trouble for doing it.It's literally cause and effect. You're aware that what you're doing is a crime. You're free to believe it shouldn't be a crime, but it objectively is. If you do not want to go to jail, simply do not do it. It really is that simple.>inb4 bootlickerI don't think drugs should be illegal either, but I am still aware of the fact that they are.
>this one lolbertarian/anarchist/nigger ITT getting absolutely BTFO
>>116517525Die in prison, crackhead
>>116517525>Carrying a gram of crack shouldn't even be a crimeYes it should. Crackheads are some of the most violent people, so getting rid of them and their enablers by stuffing them in jail is a net benefit for society.
>>116517387>half whiteThey mostly count hispanics as being white to fudge the numbers.
>>116517525how the fuck does prison even make a "profit"? we're literally all losing money from out taxes to sustain the criminal behavior of these african american gentlemen. everyone loses this way, but if they were free, we would lose even more. there is no other way
>>116521133I believe he's asserting that the penal institution uses prisons to fleece the public. Everything in a prison is furnished by contracted companies. The beds, the clothes, the food. Without prisons, those companies would take a hit. Also politicians benefit from having prisons in their districts. Municipalities get grants for having them. The prison system is indeed fucked, but that has nothing to do with the cause/effect relationship of continually doing something you know is illegal.
>>116517838did you run out of crack? you seem really on edge for 5 am.
>>116521536it's also part of the standard leftist inversion of reality; the assertion that black crime exists because of prisons, rather than prisons existing because of black crime. cart before horse
>>116517525Honestly, fuck crack. If it were weed, LSD, shrooms, or even ecstasy, I might be inclined to agree. But people on crack, coke, meth, and heroin need to get clean or go to the slammer.
>>116517592>be poor>don't smoke crackCOPE crackhead
>>116517525For real though, unless your trolling, people like you really hurt the argument against privatized prisons. Kind of like the college students who protest against the military industral complex while burning flags and shitting on veterans. You want to help the problem? Then shut the fuck up about how crack is okay.
>>116518398Land of the free and home of the brave
>>116511386>over-incarceration>implying they weren't rightfully evidenced of and subsequently convicted of crimes they committed
>>116518370People who smoke weed are going to smoke it one way or another. As far as MUH HEALTH EFFECTS, you also to ban fast food, added sugar, and alcohol. Otherwise you just really hate weed for some reason and don't actually care about public health via consumables.
>>116524355hmm i wonder what explains this
>>116517756But that is also an incentive for people to not commit crimes
>>116511386>everything bad in my life is someone else’s fault!Personal responsibility is tough.
>>116517252They don't. Whites just don't do the crimes in the first place.
>>116515536>start arresting more whites>quickly realize that the argument was bogus and that nigs were just using it to score a get outta jail free card
>>116524414It's weird how black people apparently weren't violent until the 1980s.
>>116517252Whites literally do them less. Seriously look up victim reports and recidivism if you still buy into the meme that blacks are somehow unfairly targetedAlso humor the alternative. If blacks ARE indeed over policed, whats the solution? Less cops in blacks areas? Lmao yeah that will work out great.You faggot lefties cant get away from this dissonance that black communities have a history of systemic abuse and opression that resulted in worse socioeconamic conditions that contribute to liklihood of being a criminal oh but also they dont actually commit more crime they are just unfairly policedLike make up your fucking mind so we can fix the problrm
>>116515536>what if that instead means black people are three times as likely to be carrying weed around?And why do you think it's illegal?
>>116517525>Carrying a gram of crack shouldn't even be a crime, you stupid bootlicker.So work to change the law. Don't argue that violation of it won't result in consequences under existing laws.
>>116524355Our incarceration rate is only that high because blacks literally cant stop commiting crimes Seriously look up recidivism and victim reports if you think we just throw people in jail for no reason. Aside from maybe drug use convictions, we tend to put people in prison for doing a measurable harm to society
>>116524355>>116524414>>116524549Our prisons are full of niggers too here in Canada fyi
>>116517369Lmao i love this one. Its a secret redpill. Lefties LOVE to say that whites and blacks use drugs at the same rate, but not only are blacks more flagrant about their drug use, they also lie more often in self reporting about their drug use
>>116524549because blacks were better off before desegregation and before leftist welfare policies destroyed the black family unit. the drug epidemic of the '80s also intensified black criminality
>>116524549Well yeah, when we kept the group of uneducated retards from a savage land on leashes during segregation and jim crowe they actually had their shit together
>>116524549crack cocaine played a huge role in increasing nigger crime
>>116517156>Zetas own military grade rifles and humvees.That's because your retarded government decided to send weapons to the Mexican government so that they could "fight the cartels". As anyone with a +75 IQ could foresee, the cartels threw some shekels at their politicians and were given the weapons that were supposed to be used to fight them.
>>116524898I wonder why we even introduced crack to their neighborhoods
>>116518859are you baiting? or just a complete faggot spouting meme phrases
>>116524918CIA did that. The same CIA leftist scum in the media are now defending and exalting because they hate Trump.
>men are incarcerated more often and for longer periods of time than women>therefore the justice system is run by misandristsHmmm...
>>116524918that was probably one of the things niggers aren't responsible for. not totally anyway
>>116525029Ive yet to see a response to this among leftiesClearly the criminal justice system has a bias against men
>>116524991>CIA introduced crackFucking kek'd. They looked the other way when Colombian cocaine was being shipped into the US, because the people who trafficked the cocaine also happened to be on the CIAs payroll to ship guns to Nicaragua to fight the commies. Just because some nignog turned the cocaine into crack doesn't make it CIAs invention.
>>116525057Men commit more crimes
>>116525146Agree. And blacks commit more crimes than whites.
>>116525146Yup, and blacks commit more crimes than whites
>>116525057so does the right advocate for female only nations?
>>116525212No the left does, the right wants to call out the clear racism and sexism towards men for being discriminated against a sexist matriarchal government you brainlet false dichotomy bigot
>>116524355>all the criminals are out killing people in third world shitholesMan it really sucks that we do a good job of locking up murderes and rapists.
>>116525212Nope, just advocates for calling out hypocrisy in this specific issue
>>116525299>the right wants to call out the clear racismexcept against blacks
>>116525398because there isn't any
>>116525174>>116525198Depends where, I know in the US whites commit more crimes but then again whites are like 60-70% of the population. Now in term of ratio amongst specific race, criminality rates are higher for blacks.
>>116525391>in this specific issuebecause its convenient for their argument
>>116525398Because there isnt any. If anything blacks are the most racist people ever...they cant accept responsibility for their shitty lives or actions, therefore blame it on whites while riding the victim train.Stay mad.
>>116525431>>116525493>history never happened guys it will go away if we just think it so!
>>116525398they only want to call out the clear racism, not the imaginary racism that the dumb left perpetrates.For example of these imaginary ones, look at all the claims in this thread saying blacks are sent to prison unfairly or only for drugs and giving ZERO evidence, and then closing their ears when someone else presents evidence. Imaginary victimization lovers
>>116511693so then it has nothing to do with racism.
>>116525560what history? the barbary slave trade?
>>116525439> I know in the US whites commit more crimesWhen people talk about crime statistics, or any statistics for that matter, they don't include the grand fucking total. Crime statistics are based on X crimes committed for every 100,000 people. Of course 98 million people are going to score higher than 21 million people at nearly everything. But when you want an accurate view, you look at the score for every 100,000 people.
>>116525560>goal-post>straw-mancurrent day there isn't real racism. There's a push towards the victimization hierarchy replacing a meritocracy>but things were bad in the past! Youre ignoring thatnice awareness moron, that's exactly what im describing. Victim Heirarchy
>>116517314stop doing illegal things and then the legal system won't incarcerate you.pretty simple.
This thread is a disaster and I wish you would all go back to whatever retarded social media you came from.
>>116517325and of course everyone can read minds and know if you plan to deal that illegal substance or just use it yourself.
>>116525639call it whatever you want but it doesnt change the fact that people are fucked by what happened in the past.
>>116511693So basically the United States abolished slavery on racial terms but still uses slaveryHow progressive
>>116525741>oy vey my genetic memoryExplain how the black population was in a better situation in the 70s than now, then.
>>116525077You're pretty naive to things like this. My grandfather admitted to me they turned a blind eye on purpose and never took steps to stop it. No one said it was their invention. But they actively encouraged it and took no steps to stop it on purpose.
>>116525627Hey I know you have ADHD and focusing for more than a few seconds isn't really your thing, but try to read the entire sentence next time.
>>116525741Every country and people on earth has been fucked by another country and people at some point in time. Many were fucked far more brutally, and far more recent than Africans.Yet you're the only ones who keep using it as a crutch, as if you'd magically be great if it wasn't for colonisation (which brought infrastructure to Africa). Both Africa and Asia were decolonized in the very same period of time. The Asians used the infrastructure that the Europeans left, and built their countries at an amazing pace. The Africans left the infrastructure to collapse from the lack of maintenance.
>>116525863>My grandfather admitted to me they turned a blind eye on purpose and never took steps to stop it.That's literally what my post says, you daft cunt. They looked the other way because the people who were smuggling the cocaine were also smuggling guns for them in the fight against commies in Central America. How the fuck did they actively encourage it? Looking the other way isn't actively encouraging anything. And crack was invented by a black man because cocaine was too fucking expensive for nogs.
>>116519358>Land of the free>"I want the state to kill people I disagree with"
>>116526123>taxes half your income>land of the free
>fucking liberals. of course subhumans should be allowed to be exploited for the economic gain of the capital class>hey why are niggers and spics flooding into my country? must be those fucking liberals againRetards
>>116517371You sound like a faggot. "Muh crimes". Your kind doesnt belong here.
Around whites, no rights
>>116511693>forced labour for convicted criminals is slaverylol ok retard
>>116517525>completely misses the point LMAOing at your fucking life
>>116526316That's what's so funny about the current political climate. In the 90s and early 00s, Democrats were the ones to oppose increased immigration because they knew that the social dumping negatively affected the working classes. Meanwhile the Republicans, who were in the pockets of wealthy business owners wanted more of it, since lower wages meant more profit for the business owners.But now it's been flipped on its head. The Democrats has abandoned the working class and decided that demographic change is in their interest, because the immigrants is a voting bloc that almost exclusively votes for them, and thus a lot of business owners are shifting to backing the Democrats. Meanwhile the Republicans have sort of been forced to pander to the working classes, and have to, at least outwardly, pretend that they oppose immigration. So in short, both are to blame. Wealthy business owners for promoting increased immigration to lower wages, and thus increase their profits, and retarded liberals who believes that "feelings" is a viable economic policy.
>>116525146>This is comical
>>116526541Yes, it is.
>>116517422 >A literal lie if we're talking about at least 10 US states. WRONGYou're still breaking the law on the federal level if you smoke a joint in a state that legalized it. Nice try, hippie.
Just dont cause crimes. Like is it hard not to be in a gang?You know it seems every other minority has gotten away from the gang mob shit. Gangs are for new comers. Not for people around for generations Black gangs made sense at some point. Now they do not. Fucking niggersGrow up StopBeingNiggersWhitePowerWhitePride
>>116527764>Just dont cause crimesA guy from my country who was vacationing in the US was retarded and drove into a one-way street (with no cars). When some faggot on the sidewalk busted his mirror because he was angry at the guy for driving the wrong way, he sped up and drove away without hurting anyone. He was charged with attempted murder. The car being the deadly weapon. And he was sentenced to 20 years in US prison.
>>116511386does the "13" refer to the fact that 13% of the country commits 52% of violent crimes?
>>116511386>over-incarceration of black people
>>116528438PoC only commit crime because they're forced to by white supremacist institutions. Wypipo oppress PoC and deny them any means of advancing in the world and then wonder why they lash out or turn to crime to feed their families.
>>116528347>this happened>he told you the truth
Are there other countries who have privately owned prisons?You'd think incarcerations should be the business of the government
>>116528575It did. The part that got him charged with attempted murder was the fact that one person allegedly had to get out of the way to avoid being hit by the car when the guy was trying to get away.Sure, he was retarded. Sure, he deserved some punishment. But 20 fucking years for driving the wrong way and trying to get away when some guy smashes your fucking car?
>>116521133There are private prisons in america that do make a profit
>>116528635Israel considered it recently but they shut that plan down quickly. Other countries think the US is weird for it.
>>116511693Just don't commit crime, how hard is it for black people to follow this one simple step?
>>116528962Not how justice works, Cletus.
>>116528635>Brazil>Chile>Greece>Jamaica>Japan>Mexico>Peru>South Africa>Thailand>United Kingdom>New Zealand>Australia>United StatesThe 4 last ones being the ones to use them the most. Most of the others do it because their governments are incapable of getting anything done.
>>116515341Just don't commit crime, I know blacks have lower IQs but you should be able to do the very simple task of not dealing crack cocaine.
>>116529063>Angl*sNot even once
>>116529004But it kinda is...
>>116529004I'm not white, I'm Asian and I have never commited a crime in my life. How hard is it for you 80 iq Africans to follow the law?
>>116529144Not really. In civilized countries we usually recognize that justice systems are imperfect and that the instinct to punish is a bestial one.
>>116528962>>116529071In 2016, 1.5 million people were arrested for drug offenses. Out of those 1.5 million, 1.2 million were for possession only. In 2016, 12% of all people incarcerated in State prisons were there for drug possession. I'm all in favor of busting the dealers. But giving people ridiculously long sentences and filling up already over-crowded prisons because they had a little bit of marihuana in their pocket is fucking dumb.
>>116529179I'm white with an IQ probably around 135 and have never been charged with a crime.
>>116529202That has nothing to do with what I said. At the end of the day, unless you’re in a corrupt third world shithole, or some bootlicking European country where saying the wrong thing can get you in trouble, you’ll be a-okay here. Stop at red lights. Don’t get involved with illegal narcotics. Don’t murder, rape, and steal. Not rocket science. If you really feel some strong compulsion to commit a crime, then don’t get caught, and make sure you got a really solid reason.
>>116529257Then why are you defending dindus who'd rape your mother and sister in front of you?
>>116529257>self-proclaims an IQ of 135>can't structure a basic sentenceI score 145-150 on those retarded internet IQ tests. Meanwhile my actual IQ has been estimated by neuropsychologists to be around 112. Imagine how fucking dumb that makes you.
>>116517525By buying crack (or meth or coke, or heroin) drug users are directly supporting cartels that are also involved in things like illegal arms dealings and human trafficking. Not to mention that people who are addicted to those types of substances are far more likely to commit crimes themselves to fund their drug use, I might've agreed with you if you used something like weed, LSD, or mushrooms as an example as generally people doing those drugs aren't going to harm anybody other than potentially themselves, but something like crack is far too addictive and dangerous to be legalized in my opinion.
>>116529337I'm not. In fact, the fact that you conclude that anyone behind bars is a monstrous rapist of some sort reveals a lot about you.
>>116529371My estimate isn't from an internet test. It's based on what psychologists I've seen have told me.
>>116529472Sure it is, you mouthbreathing cunt.