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Why are the critics absolutely seething over this movie?
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Because it’s supposed to be about a noble African immigrant not a wise-cracking homeless man.
I preferred the one with Dave Chappelle and Dustin Hoffman
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Because it's 2019, whites and blacks aren't allowed to be friends anymore
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so did they just copy that French film?
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holy shit is this a rip off of that french movie?
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>>108411374
>Dave Chappelle and Dustin Hoffman
bASEDanon
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>>108411445
Looks like it lmao, shameless
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>>108411439
>>108411445
We GET IT you watch WatchMojo...
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>>108411439
>>108411445
>>108411524
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-untouchable/weinstein-co-to-remake-french-film-untouchable-idUSTRE7676V520110708
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>>108411297
because it's ripping off the french movie from some years ago
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>>108411530
You know, some people just watch movies that aren't in english, retarded amerimutt
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This gap basically guarantees a movie is great
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>>108411618
I wonder how shit it is, which retard thought Kevin Hart was a good casting decision
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>>108411755
>final casting choice was between Kevin Hart, Chris Rock, Jamie Foxx, Chris Tucker and Idris Elba
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>>108411445

English speaking remake of it, so yeah.

>>108411755
He's not a bad choice given it's trying to be some sort of dramatic comedy.
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>>108411697
If you weren't dumb you'd know it's a remake not a rip off
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>>108411405
Holy fucking shit
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>>108411297
Weinstein produced it. Kevin Hart is in it.
Both are persona non grata right now.

What the critics don't get: it's based on a huuuge French movie. Immensely popular in the rest of the world. Which means, if they don't fuck the story up it will connect with audiences.
Also Cranston is a great actor and if Hart follows the (original) script, he'll get lots of laughs.
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>>108412497
does it kill americans if they read subtitles?
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>>108412467
that's like calling something pre-owned instead of used
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>>108412488
Jesus, those people are so fucked up. The original French movie did effortlessly more for friendship between classes, races, etc than all of Hollywood propaganda together.

The reason is simple: it doesn't hammer any political bullshit down your throat.
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>>108412488
>(((Denerstein)))
>(((Reinstein)))
>(((Cohen)))
>(((Chang)))
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>>108412488
Why did Grace Randolph bring up The Bell Curve, a 25 year old book?
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>>108412488
I thought you guys were memeing, the fact that only white critics are saying this is fucking baffling.
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>>108412497
See
>>108412488
Reviewers don't even seem to know it's a remake and are just lashing out because it's not about a white man apologising to an angry black man for 2 hours
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>>108412497
They can do whatever they want. The original will still be great, and maybe a few Americans will check it ut after enjoying the remake.
Also, Cranston and Kidman are in it. They're both good when they have good material.
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I have a question, wasn't the real nurse dude of this story latino/pacific islander?
Why did they change him to black?
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>>108411297
Its just a remake of some other movie
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>>108412545
Movies with subtitles just typically aren't shown in theaters here.

You have to go out of your way to find them, though it's a lot easier with streaming services now and the popularization of subtitled anime. It's still seen as pointless trouble to go through having subtitles as so many shows would get dubbed instead.
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>>108412631
>Why did Grace Randolph bring up The Bell Curve, a 25 year old book?

So everyone knows she read it.
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>>108412664
>wasn't the real nurse dude of this story latino/pacific islander?
He was actually Algerian and the original logic was "Well Algeria is in Africa so we'll hire an African guy"
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>>108412497
>What the critics don't get: it's based on a huuuge French movie

And? It still has to stand on its own legs because it's adapted to take place in America. The fact that it's being judged on its own merits instead of talking about it as a remake is a good thing.
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>>108412781
Imagine if someone decided to play you in a movie and they were not the same race as you.
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>>108412488
Do these people unironically want a race war? I'm not even saying that in a threatening fashion, I'm saying these professional journalists seem to be a lot more ready to boil over than any 10 randomly selected "DAY OF THE ROPE" posters from /pol/
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>>108412545
They're just not used to it. Same with dubbing. They have Hollywood which churns out thousands of movies a year, so they never had the need for subtitles or good dubbing. Unlike most of the countries around the world which are dependent from foreign movies (mainly from the US).
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>>108412715
>implying she'd be lauded for reading wrongthink
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>>108411297
>Everybody was mocking this when it was first announced, especially the casting
>Now people complain it's getting bad reviews

/tv/ really can't make up its damn mind.
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>>108411445

gonna make the English remake of Three Men and a Baby look like Le Cage aux Folles

mon dieu
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>>108412488
>Stone Age
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>>108412851
I would be ok if it was a BLACKED adaptation of my life.
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>>108412488
Can't wait to hear how much Armond loves it
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>>108412910
>English remake of Three Men and a Baby

Wait, what?
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>>108412797
There's not much to adapt. The story conencted with audiences worldwide precisely because of its universal themes. Bear in mind this movie was huge even in countries like South Korea.

Changing the croissant joke to a donut joke is no merit. This remake was a no-brainer, it was great as it is.
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>>108411297
maybe it's bad
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>>108412904
The trailer looked really cheesy
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>>108412497
>What the critics don't get: it's based on a huuuge French movie
lmao they're well aware. Critics might write shitty biased reviews but they're not that level of clueless.
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>>108412488
Do stand alone critics still have followings? meaning that, is there somewhere Donald Clarke fans congregate and ware anxiously waiting for his review on movies.

Are Donald Clarke fans waiting to hear that they ain't shit and they don't deserve feel good movies?
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>>108412955
It was a pretty good feel good flick, plus that redhead was hot af.
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Because it's just the exact copy of the french movie but in NY ?
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>>108412488
>ill timed movie
aka we're penalizing the movie because Hart called someone a fag on twitter 10 years ago
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>>108412488
my god current fucking year is a joke. worst timeline
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>>108412956
WRONG
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>>108412971
Then they're just malicious and arrogant. The movie doesn't care about politics, it's just about an unusual friendship and it's great. Only asshats would want to tarnish that with ideology.
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>>108412851
>th...thanks Hollywood producer...Kevin Hart looks just like me.
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>>108412488
>tfw /pol/ was right all along
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uh, the french movie was fun and wholesome.
It's the difference between having your colonies on other continents rather than in your own country.
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>>108412975

I'm from Ireland and he's a pretentious shit bag, he has opinion articles as well and they are just as bad.
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>>108412955
If you're going to set it America but you still keep the black/white casting, it's going to need changes in the adaptation process in order to work due to cultural contexts. Frame by frame copies almost never work. That's the truth. The Birdcage and Le Cage aux Folles are still quite different movies despite the basic core premise being the same, and that's why the Robin Williams remake works so well.
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>>108413136
seen french streets lately?
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>>108413284
I never said anything about that movie. Another anon mentioned it. THIS ONE has a universal theme and doesn't need changes.
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Honestly if Hart was the rich dude and Cranston the poor assistant, it would probably make a more interesting remake. Now it's just American redo with usual Hollywood polish, and that's boring.
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>>108412488
WE NEED A HERO
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>>108412549
Not really
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>>108412488
Grace Randolph looks like she fucks Robert Daniels
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>>108413451
>Hollywood
>Polish
They are mostly Jewish
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>>108412488
Why is everything about race with these people? Why are they also the same people who will brand you a racist for not agreeing with them? Why is the current year so ass backwards? Why is the media more racist in the current year than it was in the 50s?

I feel like I got old and I no longer understand society.
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>>108412781
Should've given the role to Louis CK.
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>>108413397
The theme doesn't have to be changed, but you do have to rework the story in a way that works in the US setting and cultural context. Especially when you do it as a poor black man helps a rich white man dynamic because culturally that has baggage in America. I used Cage aux Folles as an example because the remake took brave liberties with the material while still maintaining its original message of acceptance (because it's about the now dated social faux pas of having openly gay parents, one of whom is a draq queen while marrying a more conservative family's daughter) and is similarly a remake of a popular french movie.
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>>108413587
Most people who work in Hollywood are of Polish and Hungarian descent. Look it up.
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>>108413687
Something something Jews something something White Genocide.
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>>108413541
kek, Justin Chang is eager to watch that.
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>>108412488
film criticism is dead, they're all saying exactly the same thing
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>>108412488
>tfw divide and conquer is real
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>>108411297
Remember that in the real history was a north african the one helping the wheelchair guy and not a negroid as both movies want to portray.
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>>108412594
>The original French movie did effortlessly more for friendship between classes, races, etc than all of Hollywood propaganda t

Did it? Can you point to any provable positive effect the movie had on society?
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>>108413687
>More racist now

Yes, it's so much more racist to talk about race and representation than denying non-whites roles that aren't servants and where nobody even wants to talk about issues that aren't white.
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>>108413715
this! Should've have a scene were he gets paralyzed trying to break dance with the boys then grow bitter to the black community for years but when he gets stuck with Keving Hart as his assitant Bryan Cranston discovers there's another side to hip hop he's ignored all this time and he can particitape in:

Rapping.
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>>108412549
you're so fucking stupid holy shit, please go back to plebbit
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>>108412488
I'm convinced that these types of people have some sort of serious mental illness
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>>108413938
>He gon' do it! The septuple head spin!
>*CRUNCH*
>ooh that's gotta hurt!
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>>108413715
Nice reply. I thought you would sperg out.

That cultural baggage is very true, you're right, but, and this is what I don't understand, I would have never seen it through that racial prism in the first place. In fact, I can't understand why some people always see politics in everything around them. Are they too far gone?
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>>108412488
>the only black guy mentions nothing about race only that it's shitty
My nigga.
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>>108413889
Heartwarming nazi jokes for the whole family.
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>>108413938
>>108414054
>"U alright whiteboy?"
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>>108414108
>ill timed
Low IQ ape lover
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>>108412488
>Charles Murray would love this

Why the fuck would you even think that let alone publish it in a review?
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>>108413927
(You)
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>>108413727
Polish and Hungarian Jews
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>>108414069
Maybe it's because Hollywood has only recently started to have a proper conversation about representation when it comes to casting and what kind of roles people of different color tend to get, and it's culturally relevant. Just because you don't see it from a certsin perspective doesn't mean other wouldn't either. The fact of the matter is that in a certain way just copying the black/white casting feels outdated and even maybe condescending to American audiences due to strained history and rampant economical inequality.
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>>108413927
Seething resetera faggot taking everything literally
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>>108412488
What is wrong with these people?
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>>108414155
That's a reference to the kevin hart fag tweets.
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>>108414155
You're retarded.
>Weinstein
>Hart
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>>108412488
>casting of an able-bodied actor as phillip dubious

seriously, what is this shit. He's a fucking quadriplegic, like how many quadriplegics are hollywood tier actors?
It's like saying Day-Lewis in 'My Left Foot' should've been replaced by a guy with real cerebral palsy, like a legit spewing retard, they're fucking actors, let them act.
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>>108414430
I don't even understand that argument, in most of those movies there are scenes needed to "regulate the retardness" meaning in most the condition gets lower or include flashbacks before they start decaying.

How in the fuck would they be able to do these scenes with someone that has a permanent baseline?
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>>108412488
christ. jokes on them i'm gonna see it and i'm gonna like it. hart and cranston as a pair has kino potential
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>>108414201
That woman ends up commenting on it doesn't sound like they tried presenting them as peers in the American movie like they did in the French movie and make Hart's character seem like an idiot.
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>>108414302
Maybe I'm naive, but I prefered the way the French movie handled it, not making a big deal out of it. Sure, it could have gone the Cache route with French guilt being important and whatsoever, but I think the only way to achieve normalization is just focusing on something universal (friendship) instead of reviving ugly history. Let's move forward instead of looking at the past.
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>>108412488
>How could a white guy be friends with a black guy whitout apologizing for everything his ancestors did??? How unrealistic!!

This is your brain on liberal
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>>108414430
Disabled actors tend to have a very hard time getting roles specifically because they're usually just given roles like this, but more often than not all the big roles with disabilities are given to non-disabled actors. It's part of why BBC actually has quotas for the disabled now. So that they would get proper employment opportunities instead of the scraps.
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>>108414577
>Let's move forward instead of looking at the past.
Lucky for you to say from an innate point of white privilege, fuck you.
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>>108414557
exactly man, I went to sixth form with some girl who had my left foor tier cerebral palsy and I couldn't understand a word she said for two years

having genuine retards in roles where you don't need genuine retards is in itself retarded
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>>108414617
should Peter Dinklage have had cranston's role? He's disabled init...
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>>108414636
Funny, I'm neither white nor did I have any innate privilege.
But I do know that hate over things in the past will ruin your soul. And that hate is contagious and nothing good will come out of it.
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>>108414577
It isn't an issue in the original because they don't have the same kind of racial issues like in America. That's why black servicemen in WW2 for example were treated way better than back at home. Sure you've got issues with their old colonial past but that's also a completely different type of cultural context that isn't directly comparable to Jim Crow, the KKK, the civil rights movement, etc.
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>>108414577
Ignoring and denying of past sins isn't healthy. It's way more damaging and dangerous.
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>>108414636
>>108414822

I realized the first post couldn't have been you, it would have been some dark Jekyll & Hyde shit otherwise. I understand your position, I'm just unable (or unwilling) to see everything in life defined by racial history.

>>108414909
>past sins
>things that my grandfather or older generations did
I'll pass on that, I did nothing wrong, and I can't change the past. I can only act now, why should I lose time and mental health over something some ancestor of mine has possibly done? Doesn't sound very smart to me.
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>>108414776

That's funny coming from a racist fucking nazi.

When the fuck is /pol/ gonna get off my fucking board
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>>108415093
It's not about being smart or dumb you entitled asshole, it's about justice.
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>>108415144
Oh, you're trolling. So there's still some hope for you left.
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>>108415093
Your insecurities speak louder than your feigned nonchalantness and ridiculous "I'm guilt free!" If you do not recognize and learn from history you're doomed to repeat past mistakes because while history doesn't do 100% similar repeats, it does rhyme an awful lot.
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>>108414909
>past sins
Your twinky nuspeak doesn't work on normal people.
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>>108412953
why was there a ghost in Three Men and a Baby?
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>>108412488
>French universalism triggers anglo inclusive multiculturalism
Feels good tbqh
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>>108415163
What justice?Over things that happened before we were even born? When life in general was way worse than today for EVERYBODY?

Are you sure you don't want simple revenge? Like "my ancestors had it bad, now they (whoever you hate) have to pay"?

And also
>entitled asshole
Please, you know nothing about me or my "people's history" for whatever that means. Maybe "we" had it worse but don't complain about it every second of our life.
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>>108411530
People used to talk about the French version on here. And I remember when someone posted the story that it was being remade, way back before Cranston and Hart were cast.
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>>108415144
reddit?
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>>108414313
they are jews.
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>>108411297
>Why are the critics absolutely seething over this movie?
Because the Whitey doesn't smile as the nagger kills him to take all his wealth for himself. That's what faggot critics these days unironically want.
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>>108415344

>Please, you know nothing about me or my "people's history"

The history of the nazis have been very thoroughly documented, actually.
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>>108412488
these fucking race dividing kikes, seriously. when will negros and whites finally rid the world of the jewish problem? WE CAN DO THIS TOGETHER!
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>>108412488
Rich white people getting along with poor black people?! Not in my movie! Reeeeeeeeeeee!
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>>108411297
Isnt it a ripoff of that french movie?
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>>108412488
>I speak the saddest words of tongue and pen
>Had I known, pol was right again
Don't say we didn't tell ya, fags

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGOMCM7EJuE&bpctr=1547340988
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Maybe it's just a poorly made movie.
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>>108415259
>your insecurities
>your

I had to laugh at that second attempt. You're grasping because I don't care about your guilt/anger ideology and you don't know what else to say.

>>108415479
>I said I was not white
>Talks about me being a nazi
I see you learned your history from Battlefield, I can guarantee you the Germans didn't have black snipers and female Korean pilots. You learn something new every day.
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>>108415623
You've been had lad, this is just stale circular baiting and you know it and fuel it. Why even keep particitpating?
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>>108415585
lmfao
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>>108415623

You're white. Or at least you LARP as one online. Either way, fuck off nazi.
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>>108414110
jesus christ Raimieau
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>>108415769
basado
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>>108415695
>lmfao
Nothing out if the ordinary here, goyim. No need to worry.
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>>108412488
>tfw /tv/ embraces wholesome racial egalitarianism to trigger the left and accidentally solves racism and creates world peace
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>>108415663
Because I genuinely laugh at some of the lame attempts. I am a man of simple tastes.

>>108415722
Never been white in my life. I LARP as myself. You're so totally wrong about me, it's hilarious.
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>>108412904
Its getting bad reviews for the wrong reasons
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>>108415623
For someone who insists he doesn't have issues you keep bringing up how you don't feel any guilt very frequently.
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>>108415838
It's always been the case. Like how come everybody on this site full of nazi white supremacists loves The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air?
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>>108411739
>Critics calling a feel good comedy movie about friendship between people of different social strata and races preachy
Fucking lol
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>>108412975
>Do stand alone critics still have followings?
Only if they do reviews on Youtube.
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>>108415893
True
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>>108413687
Sjw logic. Cultural Marxism dogma.
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>>108414617
Disabled people aren't owed acting jobs, and most people who pursue the field will not get a single role worth a damn. If they want to go for it despite being what most people would consider a basic requirement (being able to walk around a stage and recite lines), best of luck, but everyone else ultimately just wants movies to be the best they can be. Does England have quotas for how many quadriplegic waiters restaurants need to hire?
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>>108415893
Retarded newfag.
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>>108412488
Lol /pol/ wuz rite
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>>108415902
Because it's clichéd and trite. The original felt unique and somewhat different with how it treated the material.
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>>108415838
Pretty much this. It's the only way to solve it.

>>108415885
Are you using stock answers? Because this one is not applicable here.
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>>108415979
There's an awful lot of assumptions here, like the inference bthat being in a wheelchair somehow makes you worse actor.
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>>108415893
Same with Lethal Weapon. Everybody loves both characters.
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>>108416080
Ok, let's hire Mr. Wheelchair for the Dubs guy remake.
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>>108413927
whatt's it like being insane?
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>>108415838
The thing is the Left doesn't want 'racial egalitarianism', they just want power.
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>>108412851
tbf Omar Sy was pretty good in the film
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>>108416160
And the Right wants lynchings back, so fuck you too.
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>>108416160
We know.
When they say justice, they really mean ego.
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>>108412488
OY VEY

WHITES AND BLACKS GETTING ALONG

SHUT IT DOWN
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>>108415332
It's literally a cutout you see at a different point in the movie.
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>>108416237
He was. Do you know if he has done other funny comedies?
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just dub the french version you insufferable mongoloids
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>>108412851
Will I live long enough to see talk of blackwashing from these critics?
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>>108416337
Micmacs is pretty good
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>>108411297
Remake of some shit snail-eater film and something to do with the magical negro trope on top of the fact that we're supposed to hate Kevin Hart now.
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>>108416242
Yeah, but this time it's not blacks we want to lynch.
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>>108416242
what's wrong with a good ol' fashioned lynching?
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>>108411297
Was this supposed to be about Christopher Reeve? I saw it was based on a true story
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>>108416361
I'll dub you mongoloid
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>>108416421
Thanks. I never watched that because I'm not a fan of Jeunet. But Dany Boon is also in it and I also liked his big French comedy. Should be entertaining at least.
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>>108416498
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>>108412488
Did Grace sustain a head injury? Between her year-end lists and her turn from somewhat reasonable liberal woman to hysterical SJW, she's gone full retard.
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>>108416494
based on a french film that was based on a true story about some billionaire and his black wageslave
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>>108416575
Well Jeunet is a very "love him or hate him" kind of a guy, but it was the best answer I could give to your question
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>>108416731
He was Algerian
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>>108412488
A lot of jewish names in that pic, really makes me ponder.
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>>108415838
>the solution to racial tensions is getting along with each other
whoa
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>>108416983
Don't worry, thanks for answering anyway. Despite that ugly filter, I like the cast. Maybe I'll like one of his movies this time.
>TFW my least hated Jeunet film is Alien:Resurrection and I still find it very awful.
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>>108417082
It was right in front of us the whole time

>You don't steal
>I don't lynch
Imminent Nobel Peace Prize for /tv/.
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This thread took a weird but funny turn.
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Shite. Looks like I should've watched this instead of Vice yesterday
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What is it with Americans, can't they read subtitles, unironically?
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>>108412647
>white
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>>108415695
>won't even let me push the proceed button
pol is just incapable of being incorrect today
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>>108417321
yes
they also need their stars
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>>108412488
Checked and it's p obvious these liberals need racial disharmony to thrive on.
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>>108412545
Unless it's made by a mexican
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>>108411739
>preachy, manipulative, and frustratingly cliched
Let me guess, Kevin Hart doesn't fuck a wh*te woman this film?
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>>108418265
I like it when they say a movie is manipulative, when what they really want to say is that it's not their liberal propaganda.
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>portraying black people and white people as friends is wrong in Current Year
What's the correct, progressive way we should be interacting with each other?
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>>108419170
Read the thread: unironically apologizing for things someone in the past might have done.
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>>108412488
The West must be Cleansed by Fire.
It is the only way.
We were too empathetic & now the meek have inherited the Earth.
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>>108419616
We're heading towards that. It's inevitable with how crazy the left has become.
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>>108419616
It’s actually more like this
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>>108420041
Nobel Prizes are worthless now too though
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>>108420041
I just have one thing to say about that statement, Mamma mia!

lol
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>>108411297
because it's life affirming and (((journalists))) worship moloch
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>>108420337
Not in sciences and engineering

Journalistic and artistic nobels have always been controversial



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