Your thread for:>night markets>transportation>bad oil>computer parts>shopping>housing>where to go>what to see>whom to doin the Free and Independent Republic of Taiwan (a representative democracy not affiliated with the People's Republic of China).
It was a big earthquake anon, biggest one i' have experienced so far in taiwan
>>1578239When did this earthquake even erupt? Also how strong was it?
>>1578378This afternoon, was a 6.1. I happened to be on top of Taroko on the Baiyang trail at that exact moment so the epicenter was basically directly below. Scary shit when you hear the fences vibrate and rocks start falling. Two Malaysians weren't as lucky and got smashed by some falling boulders on the Lushui trail. Had to get airlifted by helicopter since the roads were blocked by rockfall for a few hours. We were all stuck up there waiting for bus services to resume. I took a video of the rescue chopper landing in the carpark. If I figure out how to upload it I'll put it on here later if someone wants to see.If I hadn't decided to sleep in for an extra hour and had taken the 6am bus instead of the 7:30 one I would have been on that exact same trail as the Malaysians at that time. Feel like I dodged a bullet today.
>>1578378In Taipei was quite strong, my furniture shaked a lot. Nothing was damaged though, but my taiwanese friends were little bit concerned.
Earthquakes aside, what should I watch out for when I go to Taiwan in September? Dangerous foods, bad parts of town, shady women, rip offs, boring places, etc.
>>1578429Well, good thing is that nobody was severely injured at least. Still I've that there's a few more quakes that have erupted in parts of Mainland China as well.
I’m going to Taiwan for a festival next week. I’m gonna be in the Hualien area when it’s finished. Are there any nice spots to spend maybe 4 days around there? I’m probably not going to the Taroko Gorge. Any tips are appreciated!
>>1578476Really nothing of the sort in Taiwan. Maybe taxi scams, but it’ll be obvious.
>>1578378>what is google>what is the Taiwan Central Weather Bureau earthquake site>>1578476For a short stay you don't have to worry about much of anything. If you get into a fight with a local, expect all of his friends to jump in with him on beating you up. The temples tend to be run by gangsters, so don't get into any fights with the temple gang crowd.>>1578902I've never run into a taxi driver who was trying to scam anyone. Maybe a third of them are complete idiots, and absolutely none of them know how to read a map so don't even bother trying to show them something on Google Maps.
Bumping the REAL Taiwan General thread because some stupid nigger tried to claimjump it with his own.
>>1578216that giraffe has such a short neck. That's so sad.
>>1578409I was there last August. Man I cant even imagine being on any trail during that. Nuts.I was at the top of taipei 101 during a 4.0 earthquake, that was crazy.Glad you are OK
Has any one lived in both Shanghai and Taipei? I'm moving to Shanghai for the money, but had my heart set on Taipei. If shit goes south, I'll just buy a ticket to Taipei and start again.
>>1578476>what should I watch out for when I go to Taiwan in SeptemberSeptember is the wettest month of the year. There is also the possibility of typhoons. You should wait until November/December
>>1579946>also the possibility of typhoonsThose are a bonus. I love typhoon days. Sleep in, eat the traditional can of tuna with crackers, shitpost on /trv/, what's not to love?
Can anyone recommend any good bars or eateries in Taipei? Only there for 3 days before heading to Hualien for Organik festival.
>>1580288Le Fumoir is a great scotch bar.I really like Zhuji for taking visitors for a Taiwanese meal. Shin Yeh is ok. Din Tai Fung is Din Tai Fung.
>>1578871Go to the fuckin gorge dummy.
Anyone else feeling all the little earthquakes tonight? Literally a dozen or so.
>>1578871Hualien isn't that amazing desu. Go to the World Inn for the best coffee ever. Gorge is really a must. My Taiwanese girlfriend was attacked my a rock macaque there so be careful. The locals stone them. There's the big ass night market which sells fried duck head, indigenous alcohol, fried sandwich and has comfy buskers.
>>1580288Go to ximen for drinks. It's mostly the LGBT community but the places have all you can drink for like $30aud/NT$600.Try all the local places for Lu Rou Fan. Absolutely DELICIOUS. Can't fuckin replicate the taste back home
>>1584455Kaohsiung has a LOT of white people. Apart from ximen, we saw more there than Taipei desu
>>1584455>>1584466Hualien. And white people there are actually willing to acknowledge each other with a little smile and a nod, like hey cool we're all in this together.Taipei, we all ignore each other because what the fuck are all these white people doing in MY Taipei? Also, there are a lot of niggers in Taipei nowadays, mostly Africans from the few countries there that still have diplomatic relations with Taiwan, but also a lot of Ameriniggers who are busy trying to impregnate all the dumbest sluts.
Fuck this makes me wanna go back so bad. Can't wait for CNY2020
>>1578216What are the best destinations to surf on the east coast?
I want to bring my partner to Chinese culture. I am quite familiar with mainland China, and just a tiny bit of Taiwan.Now, I know mainland has a lot of bad/boring shit and I am not a huge fan, even though I love the more remote areas (mountains in Yunnan/Sichuan, etc). But I am not sure whether Taiwan or mainland China would be a better starting point for introduction to Chinese culture? I know Taiwan is somehow more traditional without mainland retardedness, but I fear it's a bit too small if we want to do something full blown History/nature?Yeah, mainland China has a shitton of History for obvious reasons but the cities are boring as fuck. My partner wants a new travel experience. Wonder if Taiwan is fun and different enough to btfo someone who never left Europe apart for going to Japan?
>>1578871I was at organik as well
>>1584466I dont know if serious but thats NOT the case. Lots of chinese tourists tho
Is Din Tai Fung a tourist trap?
>>1585926Your boyfriend would probably get icky about squat toilets in China. Taiwan is a good introduction to Asia in that it's clean and first world and just a little bit foreign feeling. In terms of history, it's lacking, but the food is good, the night markets are interesting the first few times (they all sell the same shit, but you won't tire of them in just a night or two), and the traffic has a little bit of that chaotic Asian vibe.Taiwan's more gay friendly anyways, homobro.
>>1586201did you come across the giant autist at all?thought he was just on the wrong drugs but started seeing him everywhere and gradually getting the impression his tent was decorated with intestinessome good sets but I'm still recovering from the lack of sleep
Is Lao Wang in Tao Yuan still alive?
>>1578216is it better to go to hong kong or taipei?
>>1588669Upping this - I’ve the same question. Looking to go to either place by mid may; haven’t booked shit yet (its fine I’m a SEA-bro so planning this shouldn’t take more than a day)Would like to know which is preferential foodwise, culture wise and scene wise. Also great if you could provide drinking spots.
>>1588669>>1588726/trv/ always shits on me for saying this, but to me Taipei all the way. I mean I'm glad I've been to Hong Kong, and it's always good to see my friends there, but Taipei I find simply more fun even if you just end up going there alone. Always something happening, amazing food, enough sights to keep your itinerary filled, people who are genuinely friendly. HK I would only recommend if you really miss Western culture a lot. Taipei is also pretty easy to process for Westerners, but it still feels a little more like you're actually in Asia compared to Hong Kong. Food is great in both places, but it's cheaper to eat amazing food in Taipei.
>>1588669>>1588726Maybe it's just because I reside in Taiwan, but I find Honkers a lot more interesting and fun. Taiwan is a backwater.Taiwan: gray old dilapidated concrete buildings because we're gonna retake the mainland any day now!Honkers: glass skyscrapers and light shows.Taiwan: it's illegal to own a boat or airplane because you might smuggle stuff from ChinaHonkers: IS ChinaTaiwan: Nobody has any money, practically everyone eats a crappy 50NT lunch box.Honkers: Dozens of Michelin-star restaurants.Taiwan: just walking from Dingxi MRT to work, I pass by four separate shoe stores all selling the same shit. That's within just a few blocks, not some miles-long hike. Clothing stores, the same brand has nine hundred tiny little bathroom-sized stores all over the city. And yet I cannot find a single place that sells certain common hobby-shop items. Because nobody does sell them at a retail level anywhere in the entire fucking island. Because it's much more important to have 900 "LA New" outlet shops than it is to have 899 "LA New" outlet shops and one fucking serious R/C modeling shop somewhere in the entire country. I can buy an entire fucking shipping container full of the same part if I want to buy wholesale from the factory in Taichung, but I cannot buy a 100-count box or a 4-count baggie.Honkers: they actually comprehend the notion of product differentiation in retail sales.Taiwan: ZERO English on their sales websites, you cannot even use some major websites because they (for no reason whatsoever) require you to enter a valid Taiwan ID number and foreigners get a slightly different formatted ARC number that WILL NOT VALIDATE. Try to contact the company and NOBODY IN SALES SPEAKS ENGLISH. If you miraculously get passed down to some schlub who knows a few words, they have no authority to sell to you and won't make any money if they do, so they put in zero effort.Honkers: hey buddy, you wanna buy stuff?!??!?! HERE, BUY FROM MEEEEE!!!
My wife and I will be going to Taiwan this August. Don't know a lick of Chinese, and don't know shit about modern Taiwan in general. We like: >eating good ass food>eating good ass food>eating eating eating eating>eating cheapand don't like:>touching dirty peasants>crowded tourist trapsWhat are /trv/'s based recs?
So I lived in china a year and now I am in Taiwan for a year to work. I really want to continue learning Mandarin and want to talk to locals as much as possible but people here don't seem as nosy as in China and much more willing to speak in English. How are some ways I can maximize my speaking with strangers here? I pass as a local (Mexican)
>>1588818>ZERO English on their sales websites, you cannot even use some major websites because they (for no reason whatsoever) require you to enter a valid Taiwan ID number and foreigners get a slightly different formatted ARC number that WILL NOT VALIDATE. Try to contact the company and NOBODY IN SALES SPEAKS ENGLISH.Learn chinese and quit being such a whiny faggot.Do you complain because your shithole home country doesn't offer Belarusian customer support?
How easy is it to date an Taiwan girl? Thinking about fliying to Taipei (or any other city in Thaiwan) for that reason.It has worked in Thailand before, I am tall, blonde, have light skin and I am not fat. But I tend to have the autism.
>>1592422>Taiwan is trash if you want something related to historyOther than the National Palace Museum, which has the best Chinese artifacts (especially because Mao had everything that was left behind destroyed during his "Cultural Revolution"), the authentic folk religion stuff (eradicated by Mao during the CR), the use of traditional characters (banned by Mao because he didn't want the mainlanders to read their own historical documents and textbooks), and so on and so forth.
>>1593383KMT: elect us so that we sell out your future to China so that we can grovel our way into political positions in your new S.A.R. government and continue to rule over you in permanent unelected positions.DPP: clown world TBQPH. Unmarried cat lady is president, refuses to refurbish or build nuclear power plants so electricity costs are going to triple after 2025, no coherent policies or plans. I think the nuclear shutdown is the only thing they've delivered on.
>>1593383BTW me >>1595092 again.Of the two I have to give the nod to the DPP, they at least aren't murderous psychotic robots who exploited the peasants under the mantra of "we will retake the mainland!" until they finally gave up and made their slogan "we will fuck you over and subjugate you to the mainland just so we can stay in power!"The DPP may be clown world but at least they're more or less honest in their intentions. The KMT absolutely destroyed Taiwan's future and the ONLY reason the KMT managed not to turn the place into North Korea was that they couldn't maintain their stranglehold after the mid-1980s. Once Mao was gone and Deng Xiaoping stopped China from constantly destroying itself, the KMT no longer had any way to keep up any of their pretenses -- no more retaking the mainland, no more representing the left-behind people, no more killing anyone who wanted free elections.Now the only things the KMT is any good at are hiding all the money it stole, buying votes from all the minority groups it set aside legislative seats for, and selling out Taiwan by conducting backdoor negotiations with Xi's government in China.If the KMT win back control ever again, it'll be the end of Taiwan. They'll sell the whole island out under "one country two systems" and hold sham elections just like in HK where they're the only party allowed.
>>1593429Other way around, dipshit. My Taiwanese coworkers have very little problem reading simplified; the mainland Chinks can barely even figure out their own simplified characters, forget about the glorious history of Chinese literature or the beauty of traditional characters.
>>1595097Both can read the other scripts. You’re the massive retard.
>>1595097>glorious history of Chinese literaturechink lit is for fags, i can’t believe anyone can like chink shit for real
>>1595096This is why I will never understand why people think the KMT were the “good guys”. Both commies and nationalists were terrible. China was screwed either way it went.
>>1595107Taiwanese people don’t have any genuine interest in Chinese history anyway. They just pretend they’re more traditional to make their Mandarin classes seem more appealing and to get people to spend bucks on their museums. They seem to know more about Japanese culture than whatever their ancestors did on the mainland.
>>1595110well duh they don’t seem themselves as chinese and have been doing desinicization for decades now. i even know some taiwanese han who LARP as indigneous formosans LMAO
>>1595108The KMT were originally a pro-communist party. They only moved away from that after the mid-1920s. It didn't help that Stalin basically held Chiang's son hostage because Chiang had been stupid enough to send the kid to the USSR for schooling.Anyway, if it hadn't been for the KMT being pissed off about losing the mainland, Taiwan would probably have been forcibly assimilated by the Maoists. So in that sense they were "good". It's a pretty narrow claim to "goodness", though -- "not quite as bad as the fucktards who killed a hundred million of their own population".
>>1595147>>1595160Half the stories in the news about those SEA monkey hookers is that they tested positive for HIV after being caught selling sex to hundreds of men.So, enjoy your AIDS I guess?
hey im interested in going to long dong to do some climbing but was wondering whether i might get eaten alive by one of those spiders. are they everywhere in the countryside and are they dangerous?
>>1595830The spiders are all over the cities too. Just carry a can of Raid around with you, you'll be fine. A squirtgun filled with rubbing alcohol also works.
>>1595110>>1595111Young Taiwanese people maybeOld ones think of themselves as Chinese
How safe is Taiwan?I live in a latin american shithole and want to travel to asia, but I want to experience a country where you can walk around a city at night without worry of getting robbed and killed. From what I've read, Taiwan and Japan are relatively safe so I'm choosing between the two. Just want to confirm here since it's a long trip and I'd like to make the best of it and not have to fear for my life for once
>>1596835Taiwan is very safe. I walked around all night and never felt unsafe once.
>>1596861using how you feel as a metric for how safe a country is doesn't make much sense
>>1597122>poster asks about crime>reply includes an image without context implying it's higher than global average>website is about road safety and industrial safety>rates Taiwan an overall zero because it doesn't have complete datawell done there>>1596835There's very little violent crime or property crime. There's a moderate amount of perverts installing toilet cameras. Two got busted just last week.Occasionally you'll run across some fucktard who hates foreigners, but about all they do is harass you. One punched me in the back as I walked by him in an MRT station, another intentionally walked into me from behind and started yelling at me that I should watch where I'm going, another sat down next to me on the MRT and started leaning against me and acting like a dick. That last one got videotaped harassing a white guy with a Taiwanese girlfriend about two months later and ended up getting publicly shamed and prosecuted, although I think the prosecution got dropped after attention faded.The biggest actual danger, at least for long-term expats, is from other expats. Expats end up associating with other expats, and many expats are fucked in the head. Asia tends to attract losers who couldn't make it at home, often due to mental problems, or who are fleeing low-level criminal prosecution. Taiwan is popular with the criminal subset because it's "not a country" according to 95% of the world and so it doesn't have extradition treaties with most other places. Even that isn't 100% guaranteed protection, though, as Cody Wilson found out last year.
>>1597172I take back the picture but what I said remains true
>>1596835From which Shithole are you from amigo? Taiwan is pretty safe, as other anon said worst dangers are some chinks that hate westerners. But it is not that common to come across them.
i want to rent a motorbike but everywhere online says "just get a moped bro" i was under the impression that taiwan is pretty hilly and riding a moped up and down wouldnt be very comfy, am i wrong? also could you take a rental moped onto the highways etc
Need you help guys, can you tell me what’s really wrong with this country? I’ve came here from Manila (but to be fair Ive also had enough time in Japan, Hong Kong and Singapore) so I’m a little bit startled by how functional it is and it’s pretty close to perfect for me. Better than Japan in my opinion which is speaking volumes.I’m nearing 30, have enough of a career to have disposable income, and all I want is a bit of headspace. I’ve just been down Yongkang Street and everything was pleasant, high quality, cheap, safe, and functional.Like, it works. Works well.So, what’s the catch?
>>1596861>>1597172>>1597194Thanks for the information. If that is indeed the case, I'll definitely visit Taiwan some time.
>>1597306It is Asia's clown world central. At least it is like that in Taipei.
>>1597194I've averaged about one a year. Usually they just yell some stupid foreign gabble at me. I just smile and nod because it's not like they're even intelligent enough to speak English.>>1597306You mean, other than the risk of being bombed to death by China? inb4 bad oil.>>1597583Honk honk.
>>1597583I’ve worked in a “Women In Tech” corporate for like 3 of the last 4 years so if this is clown world to you then we have different baselines. I really don’t mind gays getting married, unless of course you’re referring to something else with the clown world reference.
>>1597605It is good that Taiwanese as well as some foreigners have their priorities first.I am sure that now that fags can marry China is going to forget about Taiwan. Or hey, now that faggots can marry the stagnant wages that Taiwan has are going to rise.
>>1597613How bad is the salary for devs there?
>>1597746not goodsource google engineer salaries in taipeihttps://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Google-Tainan-Salaries-EI_IE9079.0,6_IL.7,13_IM1716.htm
>>1596744Yeah young Taiwanese are braindead.Can’t wait for more SJW crap.
>>1597602>being bombed to death by chinaSure, but MAD guarantees that we'll all go together when we go.
Quick help required. Last night in Taipei. Where do I go for drinks where I can get laid? Or in the worst case just chat to some people that aren’t stuck up? Going out alone.I’m in a hostel currently so if the hostel is the better shout I’ll do that, but perfectly happy planting at a bar and seeing what comes my way. Can’t speak anything but English so what I’m asking is; where do I find the gaijin hunters?
>>1598359That only works when both sides have nuclear weapons. Guess which side doesn't in this situation?
>>1598371go to brass monkey.
>>1598371maybe go to ximen or shilin and try to talk to some female travelers, maybe start by asking them for a pic and say "i want to make my friends who stayed back home jealous and wanted to take a pic with you because they will see how beautiful the ladies are here" and some shitmost young taiwanese can speak english anyway
>>1598423>>1598429Okay thanks gentoomen. Brass monkey felt like a joke suggestion but I’ve stuck it into google maps and it looks workable, just hope it isn’t dead cos I’m gonna have to bomb it back to Ximen aren’t I?Either way, thanks for the suggestions. The night is slipping away. Time to have a cig and hope for the best
>>1598488You are welcome anon.Post your results tomorrow
>>1578216Strangely, I experienced a major earthquake in the Philippines near the epicenter just days after the one in Hualien. >>1596835It's really safe. I walked alone around 18-25 km, day and night then catching the last mrt trains in both Taipei and Kaohsiung.