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I just saw this, this is terrible. A moment of silence for those who never got to see it in person. Those who have seen it recall your memories here. R.I.P. Notre Dame Cathedral
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genuinely rip
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>>1576616
Watching it live on Youtube. Hopefully the stone structure survives.
God fucking damnit. i'm planning a trip to Paris in 2 months and thinking that Notre-Dame is burning down... I have no words.
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They'll rebuild it. Eventually.

Still pretty bad.
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I think that this will influence some kind of regulation for no more candles inside historic buildings. I mean look at these hazards, these are open flames are they not?
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Whelp, there goes the spire.
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It's almost Easter
Wouldn't be surprised if this is the work of the most peaceful religion on earth
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>>1576624
Doubt it in this case.
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>>1576624
>>1576625
I wouldn't be that surprised, but I would be more surprised than your typical muslim trying to kill some people, which is typically their MO. I have more of a feeling though that this was out of negligence or a tragic accident
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>>1576623
I think the roof just completely collapsed.
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This better not be arson. Notre Dame is one of the last bastions of Parisian culture and to see it fall to negative ends would be absolutely disgraceful.
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>>1576616
Took these photos back in January.
At least I got to see Notre-Dame.
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How the retards just let it burn down for over 1 hour is ... what the fuck?
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>>1576616
I was just there a month ago, feels really bad man
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Someone said this feels like it signifies an end of an era and I agree. It's almost symbolic to a closing chapter in our history.
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>>1576616
It's burned before. It will burn again.
C'est la vie.
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>>1576616
F
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>>1576619
Nah senpai it'll either be redone as some cancerous post modern architecture or just outright turn the area into a secular site
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This happened twice in my city, I think it will be mostly fine but it's still a shame.
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This is a case of arson. If it won't be rebuilt it was deliberate.
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>>1576619
Impossible. All the things that make Notre Dame, well, Notre Dame, is gone. The architecture, the stain glass window, the art, the decor, everything is up in flames. I doubt anyone had the technical know how to be able to recreate those lost things without relying on technology. It just wouldn't be the same no matter what.

But, if anything, this will serve as a grim reminder to make France actually repair/renovate the rest of their stuff. All of their old stuff is in dire needs of repairs, and maybe, just maybe, some kind of funding into going to re-learning the old arts again.
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oh theyll rebuild what was destroyed no doubt. it'll cost an actual fortune and take decades but they'll do it.

>>1576655
maybe in britain but not in france
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>>1576665
they have brick by built rebuilt churches in germany, this is less comprehensive destruction.
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>>1576668
This isn't just any church. This is an 800 year old building filles with stain glasses window dating from back then. How would a modern day stain glass window created with modern technology even compare? It just wouldn't be the same. There is nothing historic about the building anymore other than the stone walls.
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>>1576616
A grim reminder that nothing is permanent and to be grateful to the places you have traveled.
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Help I'm retarded
How can a stone building catch on fire?
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>>1576684
The wooden roof catched on fire, then it spread to the rest of the building.
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>>1576621
The fire caught in the roof, in areas that were being restored.
>>1576645
It never caught fire before. The oak beams are 700 years old. Were.
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>>1576639
Firefighters were having a hard time reaching the flames. Huge structure, hard to access high places etc.

>>1576672
Many iconic buildings destroyed by both world wars have been rebuilt from rubble, some dating back from the days of the Notre Dame as well. Sure, the glass in lead windows will not be the original ones, but truth is the craft and knowledge still exist, and in this time and age they've been described and photographed more in-depth than ever before, so I'd say this is a better time than almost any other in history for a cathedral to burn down.

>>1576684
Heat. Lots of it. And the wooden support structures the attic - where the fire supposedly started - consisted of.
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This is fucked
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>>1576692
All I'm saying is that it will simply not be the same. Before was an 800 year old building filled with things from 800 years ago. After this, when rebuilt, instead of looking at stuff made from 800 years ago, it will be looking at what was life/art looked like from that time. Yeah, it may look and feel the same but instead of an enduring legacy of that time, it will be a looking glass to one. There will just be a certain thing missing from a purist point of view.
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>>1576696
It wont, you are right.

It is quite sad that it spent the last twenty or so years of its life exclusively for the amusement of mainland Chinese tourists. if you want to really get at the tragedy here it's that these monuments are often not something the local people have a chance to connect with. I hope that can change.
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>>1576698
>these monuments are often not something the local people have a chance to connect with
I don't think that's true for Notre Dame desu. Even if Parisians never went inside it was a huge symbol for the city. I doubt that they go to the Eiffel Tower either, but you can't deny that they have a strong connection with it.

In any case, F. I was lucky to see it 5 years ago and it was truly astonishing.
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Ah fuck, now they're saying they aren't sure they can even save the building itself now. A complete and utter total loss.
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>There are people on this board and the site who unironically think this is a good thing.
What the actual fuck is wrong with young people?
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Remember it was pissing rain while waiting in line to get in, but as soon as I went up the spire, the rain stopped.

Sure Paris isn’t what everyone thinks it is, but it still was the second city I visited outside of North America, and this is another positive part going up in flames. A keystone to the /trv/ in me.
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Reports are saying that the structure is safe.
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>>1576723
Judging by the livestreams the fire seems to have become smaller. Officials said the fire should be stopped in the next 3-4 hours.
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>>1576696
>All I'm saying is that it will simply not be the same
Most of the structure is saved faggot, everything in the towers and wings too, including the bronze statues that were dismantled Thursday.

Stop being such naysayer, the church will have some new parts, yes, but the same happened in the 19th century when much of the roof and facade got redone.
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>structure is safe
>1/3 of roof is still intact
>Bronze Statues safe
>Relics were saved
>East and West wing windows glass in lead safe

Hmm, not that bad for a fire that magnitude. Also remember that the tower and most of the roof is from the 19th century.
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>>1576696
>800 year old structure
>most of the bulding was constructed in modern times
lol
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>>1576616
Screaming internally.
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>>1576759
Holy shit anon. You do realize I had been posting during the time when the fire was raging and even the authorities aren't sure they could save the entire building, right?
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>>1576780
Holy shit, you know that it does not absolve you of your unimaginable stupidity right, faggot?
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>>1576781
Anon, even the authorities weren't sure the fire could be contained. You're blaming me for actually believing them.
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>>1576655
Wrong. It'll be replaced by a mosque and the frogs will pay for it.
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>>1576684
>How can a stone building catch on fire?
WAX FIRE CANT MELT STONE BEAMS! NOTRE-DAM WAS AN INSIDE JOB!

T H E J E W S D I D T H I S ! ! !
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>>1576621
Those are all cheap LED lightbulbs that emit bright white light. The picture is shopped to look orange.

I’m not kidding.
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>>1576665
they rebuilt St. Stephen's Cathedral in Vienna after it got bombed to shit in WWII. They can rebuild this, too
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>>1576616
I'm legit sad, boys
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Signals the end of France
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>>1576684
A roof structure made out of ~700-850 year old oak would do the trick nicely...

Feels so weird, I just returned from Paris 4 days ago.
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>>1576655
>Nah senpai it'll either be redone as some cancerous post modern architecture or just outright turn the area into a secular site
You're actually retarded if you think that
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>>1576781
Why are you so angry
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F
this is really sad. 900 years of history.
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>>1576618
The stone structure and most of the treasures inside are fine. Only the rooftop is fucked.
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I never saw it personally but I genuinely had tears in my eyes while listening to the news. I've developed strong relationships with other cathedrals so I know how the frogs must feel. Seeing Cologne for the first time as a kid, craning my neck and feeling like I was looking up into infinity...If this happened in Cologne or to the Seville cathedral I'd jump out of a window without hesitation. There's a finite array of physical manifestations of beauty which make this planet worth living on.
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>>1576665
They're thinking it was the restoration project which caused the fire.
Maybe this'll teach them not to erect scaffold on every fucking castle and church in Europe. I don't think I've ever seen a landmark that wasn't partially obscured.
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Meh. It was a fake anyway. The original was deliberately torn apart in 1160.

>856 year old building
>never installed sprinklers
fucking lazy frogs

>>1576618
>Notre-Dame is burning down
I thought it was supposed to be London Bridge.
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>>1576684
God finally got pissed about the Catholic child rape stuff.
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>>1576940
Plenty of plumbers (I'm told) have started fires during building repair with their spark-inducing tools so I can see this being the case
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Luckily I got to see it 4 years ago or so. Also saw the Azure Window 2 years ago or so, a couple of weeks before it collapsed
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>>1576618
you have a lot of words for someone who has no words
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I'm an architect and this is going to probably inspire a ton of discourse. Get ready for a ton of weird ideas about reinterpreting gothic architecture using modern technology, or the ethics/limits of mixing old and new
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Anyone who hasn’t read this, do yourself a favor. Hugo wrote the book as a critique of then Paris (1890) destroying and replacing lots of medieval buildings.

The cathedral itself is a main character and the detail that goes into his writing makes me tear up just thinking about it.
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>>1576936
I'm with you on that man, never had the fortune to see notre dame but seville cathedral is a thing of beauty i would be devastated to lose it.
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finally fully extinguished
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I honestly hope they dont rebuild the post-revolution spire. Bring it back to its pre-revolution specs, the spire was kinda ridiculous anyways.
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Australian here
Most people around me today were like "yeah pretty unfortunate"
As someone who hasn't been to Europe, I'm genuinely disappointed.
This is some Buddhas of Bamyan shit
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Immediately started booking a trip to Paris after this happened.

Visiting a ruined Notre-Dame is a once in a lifetime opportunity. Because you just KNOW the government and billionaires will repair it within months from now.

Get the pictures and experience right now because you will not get the chance again to have this and you'll be able to forever tell stories about it being destroyed once and you seeing it in that state.
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>>1577198
Getting photos of it burning would have been an experience. I feel really sorry for anyone who booked a trip to see it later this month.

And I doubt they'll fix it in a month. They'll probably get a ton of donations, but I bet the city of Paris will have a ton of bureaucratic debates over which contractor gets to rebuild it, and who gets to provide the lumber, and who gets to install a state of the art sprinkler system. Remember how long it took the Americans to rebuild the World Trade Center? I wouldn't be surprised if the Notre Dame cathedral doesn't have a roof for the next 12 months, and it'll just be covered in scaffolds and netting.
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>>1577217
>>1577216
Muslims are such shit lol
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>>1577217
The contractor is already decided because a billionaire donated 200 million dollars and will completely pay for its reconstruction as it will be using his construction company which he considers good marketing. Already 301 million in total donated while the reconstruction cost are estimated to be 80 million. They estimate rebuilding once construction started will last 1 month and they will most likely start sometime next month. Giving everyone a 2 month window to visit the site.
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>>1577228
Shit. And think of all the beautiful cathedrals around the world that are also in need of repairs and renovations.

I bet if you did a google search for your city and cathedral you'd find a beautiful building in need of donations.
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>>1577019
Why can architects never shut the fuck up and just recontruct it how it was and there is nothing wrong with using modern technology. Do you want to spend billions on handicrafts when you can reach the same (probably better result) through modern tech?
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>>1577228
>the reconstruction cost are estimated to be 80 million. They estimate rebuilding once construction started will last 1 month and they will most likely start sometime next month

Lel, this is going to take billions and at least 15 years realisticly speaking.
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>>1577019
If there's anything evil on this planet, it's post 20th century architects
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>>1577228
It's 600m+ now.
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>>1577275
true
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>>1577250
I would say €2b and twenty years are two conservative estimates.
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>>1577082
Yeah, but it has become an iconic part of the Paris skyline. It's be re-spired, I'd bet heavily.
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Really though wgaf. We destroyed way older shit in Iraq.
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>>1576813
This, but the muslims did it.
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>>1577397
Nobody cares for rocks in the desert. We are talking about one of the symbols of Western Civilization here (the only civilization that matters).
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>>1577198
Macron declared a 5-year restoration plan and experts are saying that's optimistic...
I saw 9/11 ground zero in November 2001 and it was kinda shit.
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>>1577407
>>1577397
This really gives you an idea of what people went through every day during the world wars. Europe lost a Notre Dame every week to bombs and shells. I can't imagine what that was like.
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>>1577404

Back to /pol/ with the pair of you. if anyone did it on purpose it was the Yellow Vests, they've been setting cafes and all sorts on fire to "raise awareness" as well as attempting to destroy other Paris landmarks like the Champs Elysees.

A person in a yellow vest would not be questioned behind the scenes at Notre Dame as it would just be assumed they were part of the renovation team, giving them the perfect cover.

It obviously wasn't the Muslims because ISIS will try to claim responsibility for a dog farting if they have the chance.
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>>1577456
You're fucking retarded if you actually believe that.
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>>1576616
I live in paris and couldnt give 2 flying fucks cathedrals are built and some burn throughout history they get rebuilt also. With more recent methods and styling i'm looking forward to what they have in store for Notre Dame. it is just a small reminder that nothing is set in stone
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Gaudy and ostentatious trash. Who would actually get upset over an old building burning down?
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>>1576672
>>1576665
There are still guilds around that specialise in techniques from the early modern period, with the masters of the guilds going straight back to the 1300s. There is obviously the issue with materials, like the lack of old growth forests now, but the techniques are still around and practised.
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>>1577160
>history museum in brazil
>Palmyra desecration
>nepalese city

It keeps happening. At least I got to go to the top of the WTC a few months before.
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>>1577513

You are if you honestly think it was done by Muslims. The yellow vests actually have form for this sort of thing, and they're basically a front organisation of La Front Nationale now and all the moderates have left.
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>>1578259
and the fn is known for destruction of historic french symbols and anti-catholicism, of course, I'm an idiot for not understanding
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>>1576616
eh, I've seen lots of grand European cathedrals. Sucks to be sure, but they'll rebuild and hopefully install a sprinkler system.
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Goodnight sweet prince Notre Dame
Je suis notre dame



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