Blue EditionPreviously: >>67809861RESOURCES>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.http://www.mtgcommander.net>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck strategy and card choices.http://www.tappedout.net>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.http://www.edhrec.com/>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen color identity.http://mtglands.com/CARD SEARCH>Official search site. Current for all sets.http://gatherer.wizards.com/>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface.http://scryfall.com>Thread TopicWhat did the mailman bring you today?
I love angels!
>>67816405The better an angel's art is the worse it is in edh. This is a fact.
>>67816425Wait, is Rienne a powerhouse or something?
>>67816405Yeah me too.
>TQI added an Ashnod's Altar Nim Deathmantle combo to my Yawgmoth deck. Very excited for his youngster to join the deck.
>>67816435No but she allows me to use based Razer
>>67816435She's considerably stronger than most of the shitty overcosted/booster filler angels, but that's not saying much.
Anyone have any spicy meatballs for Grusilda? Found one rummaging through my boxes.
Bara Catmen VS Statistical Autism, as seen last thread.
>>67816233you decide how greedy my mana bases are
I'm building Rayami because I like keyword soup and sultai without graveyards is interesting. Are there any creatures with relevant keywords that have a disadvantage when they die, that I'd be avoiding with Rayami? I tried looking it up, but I'm having trouble finding the right criteria to find what I want.
>>67816583>switching which side of the card the relevant lands are listedThis image is hideous.
>>67816683well thank god that it doesn't need to look nice to do what it does.
>>67816425How can that be true when Iona and Linvala exist?
>>67816405Me too anon.
>>67816583>Evolving Wilds AND Terramorphic Expanse in every deckWhy are you running basic lands that enter the battlefield tapped?
>>67816862colour fixing because i don't want to shell out for fetch lands in 7 different decks
>>67816862I'm gonna bet the answer is deck thinning.
>>67816876You could just run more lands that produce colored mana. These bases are greedy as hell.
>>67816879No, actually, it's that they allow you to shuffle your deck for no mechanical advantage--and you don't even have to lose 1 life.
>>67816583Jesus Christ, suddenly the fact that Price of Progress sees play makes a lot more sense.
>>67816370Is Thassa a good commander?
>>67817035Not really, but she's not terrible.
>>67817035She's cheap, has an effect even when she isn't online, and enables a lot of fun with sea monster tribal. I've been wanting to build her for ages.
>>67816683here, i even cleaned it up a bit for you.
>>67816405I HATE IT!
>>67817035She's playable, which is really what matters. She won't win you games off of her card alone, but she isn't something you have to bend over backwards to build.
Which one is better with no buildarounds, River Kelpie or Gitrog? I'm guessing gitrog because I don't need to consistently play from the yard but I'd just like confirmation/thoughts
>>67817222>Teysa Karlov is 102 years oldGod damn thats one hell of a GILF
>>67817222God can you imagine being the ghost under her dress?
>>6781637Not pictured are anvil of bogardden, library of leng, will kenrith and red akroma.
So what is the best single in C19?My vote goes to Dockside Extortionist.
>>67817520dockside extortionist is easy to abuse and has a lot going for it, but i don't think it is the best single. anje's ravager is such a boon to boros that doesn't happily slot into many blue decks. it is a good card that i think is being undervalued.
>>67817520Chainer.On a side note how is Anje so beautiful that old horse cock is jealous of her beauty? Anje looks like she burned all her hair off with a curling iron and her after image looks like its made of fart gas.
>TQDark Prophecy, Diabolic Intent, Falkenrath Noble, and Phyrexian Altar are on the way.
>>67817585Olivia says that to everyone in the hopes that she will take the dong.
>>67817683There are a lot of anons who would be visiting innistrad if they sparked to take a ride. I feel like she could find plenty of dudes and chicks willing to ride her pony just on innistrad ignoring walkers.
>>67816370>What did the mailman bring you today?Foil Weathered Wayfarer (onslaught) and foil Idyllic Tutor arrived, but I'm not home atm to see them.
>TQStuff for upgrading the rakdos precon. Sheoldred, Kaervek, Inferno titan, rune-scarred, necropolis regent, small Olivia and some lands.
Is corrupted grafstone ever in any deck playable or are you just begging for gravehate to brick it?
>>67817076Way too fucking greedy.
>>67816840Linvala's art is kinda shit. FTV Iona is real nice though.>>67817864It's okay in a yard deck, but there are a lot of 2 mana rocks you should probably be playing instead. I only play it in Dimir Zombies and Rakdos Madness and even there it's kinda haphazard.
>>67817881i never have problems not having my colours though, and the decks i run with more colourless sources are all artifact decks with a large portion of the cards not caring what mana is spent on it anyway.
>>67816854I can't get over how fucked Gisela's ear looks.
I've got a janky sultai deck with tasigur at the helm but it's more or less the mimeoplasm precon with a bit of the compatible Atraxa parts in too. What should I do to this deck to make it cedh viable. And yes, a complete overall is probably necessary, so
>>67817924That's not why it's greedy.I actually don't play back to basics since it ass fucks decks like yours and while I love land hate, it's just not fun to play against decks that can't compete at all.
>>67817901What about spellslinger? Probe into grafstone doesn't sound too bad. What are the essential 2drop rocks? Signets, talismans, mind stone, feliwar stone, what else?
>>67817947>only need 2-3 mana to get rid of back to basicsit doesn't ass fuck that hard. people in my group play it, everyone but the derevi player look to remove it as soon as possible. it might stick around a turn cycle, but it is not backbreaking, and you know it.
>>67817988Being out of the game for 2-3 turns is backbreaking. I guess you guys durdle hard.
>>67817998>2-3 turnsbut the player is usually lucky if it sticks around one turn. it is a piece that causes the whole table to find some sort of agreement to get rid of it. no one wants it around and rarely does someone not have some sort of removal. if the player can make it stick and evade removal then it can start doing damage, but it takes a lot to get it to stay. unless you are playing muldrotha
>>67818134>it is a piece that causes the whole table to find some sort of agreement to get rid of itI will often let a B2B stick around. Locking a 3/4 color player out is 100% worth being down 1-2 mana on a cycle.That said another one of the reasons I don't run it in my one blue deck is because I like tables to be able to correct themselves, so while I may not be too negatively affected by it, it might prevent one deck from presenting and getting an answer to a particular problem from idk some mono green player that I can't deal with or don't want to blow.It's like Teferi and T3feri basically read target player wins unless you have the answer right now. Guaranteeing that one player only has to play through a single opponent's disruption instead of potentially 3 is not worth it.
>>67806996Build her like ghetto Memeoplasm, dont include any other silver bordered cards. If you try to go for „chaos” memes your playgroup may be no longer tolerating your general and I reckon you wanna avoid that.
Why isn't Consecrated Sphinx an artifact creature wtf?
>>67818445Why would it be?
>>67818530It's art looks like a cyborg sphinx.
>>67818539I don't see it
>>67818583>invocation artThis is so dishonest, and you know it.
>>67818583You should stop using shit tier versions then
>>67818594Show me the cyborg parts on your art then, circle them. The phyrexian art looks like a sphinx with tumors to me, I only play with the invocations
>>67818613The back legs, it's got a tube going into its chest, metal parts all over. Are you blind?
@67818613I know you are trolling because you're bored, but the legs, the chest.And post photos of all your invocations with timestamp or forever be a cheat and a liar.>>67818633He's a neet and very bored with his life. He doesn't actually play.
>>67818583These are so sad. They look interesting in theory, but in person they all look muddied, dark, and practically unreadable.
>>67818633>Are you blind?>I only play with the invocationsAll signs point to yes.
>>67818583Goddamn, how did they ever think this card design was a good idea?
>>67816553And the autist is right. Barafags are delusional
>>67818613Based>>67818643>>67818668Invocations look niceThey are the worst Masterpiece but they are still nice
>>67818749Nailed it. I have an invocation lord of extinction and it looks cool as a motherfucker in person.
https://deckstats.net/deck-19874923-0e3b9d087c2bb5bb12a13837614464df.html#show__spoilerOpinions on my Volrath deck? Its all about cloning the opponents creatures and stealing stuffWhat cards did I miss
>>67818749I would say expeditions are the worst masterpieces, inventions are the best. Invocations can look pretty cool, even if they are illegible.
>>67818928>not liking expedition ancient tombMost are great anon
>>67818904>Look up ice cubes into fryers>It's a thingDidn't know that
>>67818952>45 pictures of floating rocksNah. The border itself is terrible, and the landscapes can start looking a little samey because they all use zendikars fucking floating rocks. If they were able to draw these landscapes without all needing that it would have been much better.If they actually made the cards textless full arts it would have been much better.Thats 3 big misses.
Thermo-alchemist, electrostatic field, guttersnipe and firebrand archer: which are worth it in a spellslinger deck? (jori en)
>>67819022While textless would be cool, it's not exactly practical for a wide variety of options. The border is meh, but I really like the floaty space rock Zendikar aesthetic. I feel they could be more visually distinct but I like the flavour of having a variety of lands on the same plane.
>>67818928Very much agree. Inventions are the good kind of over top bling.
>>67819270All of them
>>67816854I eternally wish we get an Orzhov legendary creature Sorin just to complete the colors.
>>67819318What are other good wincons? I usually play creature-heavy decks and have no idea what to throw in there. Storm? Fuckhuge spells ala insurrection?
>>67819270All of them, baka.
>>67817076Please elaborate on your reaper-king deck. I'm intrigued.
>>67819270Jori En isnt very strong. There are much better izzet options. I ran it as a hidden value engine for a degenerate artifact deck and it always felt underwhelming.
>>67819370Eatherflux, Sentinel Tower, some copy cards for your Fireballs. Labman if you can draw your deck out. Slap a Curiosity on one of your pingers.
>>67819399It's between that or keranos, the deck will probably be about the same either way. I just like jori more. Most izzet commanders don't seem interesting to me
>>67819399I'd wager it's better if you can get her to trigger on other people's turns too
>>67819418That's the biggest problem with Izzet, the commanders are narrow and a lot of memefags love it. I ran keranos, it's usually a much better option unless you're value grinding.
>>67819271Textless lands would have literally been the one time they could have used textless to its full potential. Everyone knows what shocks and fetches do, just like they know what bolt does, same with all the other simple lands like ancient tomb.This isnt cryptic command where you have to remember 4 different things and the exact order they appear on the card.
>>67819434Even then, it's a singleton deck filled with cantrips that doesn't have a natural wincon. I was windmill slamming Blightsteel and it seemed bad. Maybe new Narset will help, but you need a way of stopping opponent's from drawing more than one card per turn
I can’t fucking wait to slam all my shitty foil madness cards into worldgorger.dekFuck I love alah akbar strats
>>67819454So, does keranos do anything besides drawing you extra cards and pinging opponents while you do the standard izzet solitaire?
>>67819493He's an indestructible beater in a pinch, but you nailed it.
>>67817585Has full art been posted yet? For any c19 stuff?
>>67819515What do you mean by "full art"
>>67819418Most Izzets are Draw cards and do damage. You could try Tibor and Lumia or Brudiclad if you want something that plays differently.
>>67819512Thanks, I'll probably look into it. It's likely gonna play the same no matter which is in the CZ so it's not a huge problem
>>67819522Art on the artists twitter or dA or wherever that isn’t tiny for ants
>>67819547There was a picture of Anje playmat and frankly the art isn't so bad when you see the
>>67819561Do you have a link?
>>67819478>where you have to remember 4 different things and the exact order they appear on the cardSorry if I'm askin the obvious here but why is the ordering on the card important.
>>67819641I've got the image that I downloaded from here but Finlandia has been range banned from posting images for whatever reason. Just google "anje playmat"
>>67819751>>67819751On modal spells, the effects happen in the order they are printed.So it's important to know that when you choose bounce and draw, who gets the card when you are bouncing notion their?If you counter and bounce a rest in peace, where does the countered card go? Etc
>>67819366Eventually we’ll get the WB Angel who who got shoah’d
I was collecting some Ghave staples, but I recently discovered that Hapatra is way cooler than I thought she was. If I play her will I get less hate from the table and still be able to do a tokens and counters strategy that uses aristocrats style mechanics?
>>67817585>>67817683>>67819515>>67819522>>67819547>>67819561>>67819641Olivia is appealing if you like the Olsen twins. Anje is appealing if you like Lori Petty.
>>67819968Yes, but then you'll realize Hapatra isn't actually cooler than you thought. Rares are gimmicky and don't allow for flexible playstyles.
>>67819968You will get less hate than ghave, but it's not like people don't realize she is a powerful enabler. She will get wiped off the board if the opportunity presents itself, just not in the same way ghave and kaalia will.
>>67820016>RaresChrist this fucking autism
>>67820016>rares are gimmickyWhat do you mean by this?
>>67818601Using card art from Mirrodin/New Phyrexia, the plane where most things are partially metal is kind of cheating too then.
Fun cheap cards to run with Yuriko?
>can just buy the singles for cheaper than get the legit productwhat is the point of c19 again?
>>67820113To make us hope that c20 will be better.
>>67820044Seething raritylet.>>67820047I mean that Rares or worse, Uncommons, printed in Standard legal sets after Lorwyn are dependent on gimmicks, extremely narrow monobuilds that have way way less build flexibility than almost any old Mythic, even shitty ones like BFZ Linvala. They mostly force themselves to all-in strategies and don't scale very well unless you go even harder into their gimmick.Note this doesn't really apply to Rares printed in made-for-commander products, but at that point you have bigger problems.>>67820070Not him, but I don't follow that's the set Con Sphinx was originally printed in. I think why Anon asked why it wasn't an Artifact Creature to begin with.>>67820091Scroll Rack>inb4 not cheap
>>67820091There are cheap cards to run with yuriko, I'm not sure any are fun though. I am actually not sure if you can have a fun card in yuriko.
>>67816370Brought me my Overmaster for Kykar storm.
>>67820121>why it wasn't an artifact creature to begin withprobably any number of various reasons, but the fact that a phyrexian creature has robot parts on it doesn't necessarily make it an artifact creature. consecrated sphinx is not the first creature like this out of that block to have metal parts and not be an artifact; the entire plane of mirrodin has creatures with metal parts that aren't artifacts after all.
>>67820121this is the weirdest take I've heard in forever
>>67820010I’m just going to sharpie alter some hair on her.
>>67820113To provide a starting point for new players to begin playing EDH. For fulfilling this purpose they are the best precons ever printed. People talking on message boards like this one are all enfranchised players and they want new must have cards for their decks, which this isn't. They want another C13, but everyone has to know by now that shit was terrible.Finally it's too price naysayers wrong. Everyone has been singing doom and gloom about precons since 2016, yet somehow they have all been great.Turns out retards on the internet aren't their target audience
>>67820165I respectfully disagree and would like to offer the counterpoint that you are a faggot.
>>67820010Girls with pixie cuts are kinda my thing, yet still...I really wish that her picture had one "elegant" Anje and then the actual Lunatic Anje as the phantom behind her. That probably would have looked cool and conveyed the flavor of "madness behind our blah blah" better.On an unrelated note, which commander out of this product has the best flavor text? Personally feel like I gotta say it's Ghired this year around.
>>67818613You sound like a colossal faggot for playing with the hideous invocations. I suggest you suck off a shotgun.
>>67820183I agree with him and would like to point that you are a faggot.
>>678201652018 was not a good year for the product. these are a step in the right direction, and I will probably grab the Morph commander because I've always wanted to build around Morph, but I still think we should take a few more steps before I can call them really great.Especially that Jeskai mana base, what the fuck.
>>67820201Well at least we're being polite about it.
>>67820121Wow boomer kys lmao
>>67820010begging for a mic or guitar edit.
Speaking of Hapatra, should I use Primal Vigor instead of Doubling Season with her (as I don't want to double -1/-1 counters on my own stuff) or is just sticking to Parallel Lives good enough?
>>67820266Just play Scorpion God anon. Trust me.
>>67820266>I make another snake wooooooow what a cool deck anon
>>67820301>If it's not fun for me, it's not fun for anyone!
>>67820266Fuck even the Theros snek lady is a better commander >>67820315wew lad is this some serious insecurityNobody said anything about fun haha hahahaWhen you get tired of doing the same thing over and over again and dismantle your deck don't say we didn't warn you.
why is everyone shitting on Hapatra all of a sudden?
>>67820336I'm not Hapatra anon thoughI don't dismantle my decks, I have several lines of play in each of them, all fun
Fact or Fiction is a pubstomp card.
>>67820372Because one person said something, a second person responded, and people reacting to fairly low-effort posting is like catnip to people on this website.
>>67820372 There's an influx of spoiler fags who think hating everything is cool, with a relatively low skill level. Let them peter out over time, either they'll get good or grow bored.
>>67820372She's linear and samey, that gets old very quickly.
Is now the time to buy an Urborg since it just got reprinted and it's still around 15 bucks?
>>67820391Wrong. It reads:>draw three cards, discard two >if you draw your wincon, discard three or four cards instead
Never took the time to really look at the art of Tale's End til just this morning.
>>67820423hopefully she's really lame
>>67820408The thing is, a good table will be able to stop the wincon, wheel it away, or otherwise interact with it.9/10 at a strong table, FoF sees the wincon and a land pitched and 3 also good cards kept.At a pubstomp it says draw 5.I'd rather just BSZ for 2 or 3
I wish they'd print a bunch of commander staples in the old card frame and foiled. God damn the foiled frame was so nice.
>>67820165yeah sure but jacking up the price and still making it barely worth it just for convenience sake to get the package instead sounds like the target audience are grandmas who cannot use computers
>>67820372Some anons are hyper-autistic and once they see specific commanders have to shit up the thread while they spiral about how awful the commander is and how shit/retarded/gay other anons are for playing them.
>>67820454You're conceptualizing it wrong. It's a high skill card, and if it ever reads draw five, slap both players across the face, then tell them I instructed you to do it.While your opponents may have solutions, and they do get to see the cards, there are two parts: selecting the opponent and selecting the pile. You get at minimum the best card in the stack. A smart player should take the bigger pile every time, assuming the selector is competent. You can even enter win-win scenarios with recursion because the selector only has part of the information. Straight draw may be more valuable in abstract, or if you assume everyone has an answer, but in practice, it's only as good as the player using it. Plus, it's an instant, use it as such.
>>67820423>counter target activated ability, triggered ability, or legendary spell>Tazri has one of each of those abilities, and is a legendary spell
>>67820515> A smart player should take the bigger pile every time, assuming the selector is competentAt least we agree on that.>You can even enter win-win scenarios with recursionTrue.
>>67819968Literally any decent deck will draw hate from the table so that's really not worth thinking about.
>>67820372The price of popularity.
>>67820423Real talk: Can a Tazri deck be any good?
>>67820573Any deck can be good in the right environment.Not everyone plays on the same level of competitiveness, so it depends what kind of decks your playgroup plays: craw wurm, casual, 75%, cEDH, or somewhere in the middle.
>>67820573You mean when it's not built as a 5C combo deck?
>>67820554I feel like combo does this more than most though
>>67820201I second this.
>>67820573shes another food chain commander I have never seen anyone build her another way
>>67820266Just use Parallel Lives. You don't need a critical mass of snakes, you just use a few for board control. Don't listen to the naysayers, Hapatra is a fun deck. I think it's one of my favorite ones.
>>67820634That's because you are the gay and snakes are just a metaphor for the cocks you play with.
Migrate whenever >>67820633>>67820633>>67820633
>>67820651If you really want a you that badly, you could just ask m8. I can even act really offended if you'd like.
>>67820672fuck you faggot
>>67820672Are you the super pissed off guy that said you wanted to destroy the Oathbreaker general forever? Because I literally just made a new one and didn't advertise it in here.
>>67820672>Migrating to another format generalNo.
>>67820672this is the most obvious hitjob on someone trying to discuss oathbreaker in a different thread everdo you really have some sort of massive vendetta? get over yourself
>>67820672Did you seriously make another thread in less than a minute from the other thread and post it in here in an attempt to discredit the format or something? This is the most autistic thing I've ever seen here.
>>67820488Bruh, go ahead and check how much it costs to make a commander deck nowadays with staples like Sol Ring, command tower, seedborn muse and thran Dynamo. We are way past the days of $25 mikaeus budget brew. I agree it was scummy to raise to price, but it's not like they are gouging new players.
>>67820860There's really no such thing as budget anymore in this format.
>>67820915You can make stuff like UG, BG and UW on a budget just fine if all you want are functional decks with 2~3 solid wincons.
>>67820407Urborg is just a literal strictly better Swamp, so, yeah.
>>67820981UW is literally the worst color combination. Every commander either looks like a fag, plays like a fag, or is from Legends
>>67821024Well yeah, the color combo is literally about being a police state.
>>67820994False. It's a mountain when blood Moon effects are around. Swamps are not.
>>67821041Blood Moon is far less played than Urborg so we're good
>>67821059But that doesnt mean urborg is a strictly better swamp.
>>67821188No card is ever strictly better than any other card. There is always a corner case. I'm not sure if you are a retard because you just didn't say this, or because you apparently don't realize that people say "strictly better" when they just mean "better" and ignore the small mistake like when people say some shit like irregardless. Either way though, you are at least one kind of retard. Other guy is just a common retard, but you work at it.
>>67821262He said 'literally strictly better'. Eat my ass nigger.
>>67821262>no card is ever strictly better than any other cardBasking Rootwalla vs Frilled Sandwalla.Some cards literally *strictly* better than another.
>>67821336So you didn't realize that no card is ever strictly better than another and you didn't just say that. Great, now I know which kind of retard you are, you smarmy cunt.
>>67821360Some cards are strictly better than others you fucking mongoloid. Go find your handler and tell them you aren't allowed anymore internet today. The dumb cunt said literally. So I took it literally. Its not my fault you can't fucking read. God damn retards shitting up boards. Fuck.
>>67821024>>67821036Ephara is actually pretty sweet.>bounce shit>draw>not BraGAYYYYY
Anyone got any secret tech for atogatog?https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/one-tog-plz/
>>67821352I mindslaver you and am able to use the madness cost on basking rootwalla to play it into my repercussion, killing you. You would have survived if you had drilled rootwalla instead.>>67821388Prove it, name some cards faggot.
>>67821523Not him, but Return to Nature is a strictly better Naturalize.
>>67821405I mentioned this like 2 threads ago but I'm trying to build a Geist of Saint Taft deck.Hes not a stax nigger/brago clone. He just makes a harem of angel GFs
>>67821621>angel shitPretty faggy
>>67821523here's just the stuff from M20
>tfw no hot as fuck mentally I'll gf
>>67821648This performed well in my Ramses Overdark deck. This and Thornbite Staff was basically a board wipe
>>67821594Your opponent uses dire fleet Daredevil to remove a combo piece from your yard.>>67821639Your opponent villainous wealths youAlso manifold key is just worse than voltaic, you can't use it in many of the same combos that revolved around copying the untap ability to untap itself again.
>>67821750>I play strictly worse cards so that my opponent can't use them against methis is awful logic
>>67821912I didn't say that.I would run return to nature over naturalizeI would run lightning bolt over shockAnd I would run Urborg over a swampI would do all this despite the fact that that there are corner cases where the better card can be worse, simply because they are corner cases.Follow the reply chain anon, this is because some anon was being a cunt about Urborg and bloodmoon.
>>67821912>I play strictly worse cards so my opponent can't use logic against meYou know, it might work.
>>67821704>Ramses Overdarkkino>>67820672>deletedtop kek get dabbed onwhen will oathcucks learn
>>67822148they don't realize the most effective way to obliterate a general is to consistently post mild dissident and negativity that discourses discussion before a confirmed group of regulars establish themselves. The only reason /edhg/ is running still relates to the 10-15 extremely autistic motherfuckers who secretly love the environment and will never ever let it die.
>>67822148>>67822188To be fair, that was clearly a hitjob by that dude who got super pissed off that someone questioned what he said and claimed he was going to destroy the Oathbreaker general just like he destroyed the Standard and Modern generals years ago.There was an Oathbreaker thread that hit 300 posts until it died, so I think there's a place for one, but people will probably have to try again once the hatred from this stupid guy cools down.
>>67822188>relates to the 10-15 extremely autistic motherfuckers who secretly love the environment and will never ever let it diethats meROLLCALL to the autistic motherfuckers, who are you? speak up you glorious faggots. how long have you been in /edhg/
>>67822225No anon. Who says it was one guy? That was me, and I solidly haven't given a fuck because it will inevitably burn out on its own, after monitoring the last thread. Tact, diplomacy and timing are much better weapons than being a sperg.
>>67822225Not gonna lie and say it was me that shattered Oathbreaker General, but it is a reddit format and belongs on reddit
>>67822296>>67822307lel i contributed too
>>67822281Anon reporting.I am highly knowledgeable about cEDH, have played it, and don't personally like it, but I shit on all the retards that have no idea what they're talking about.Recently the gloating over Iona was very amusing since there is literally no cEDH deck that wants Iona.If there was a viable Grixis Reanimator deck I'd probably be all over it.
>>67822281Hi. I'm basically here every day.
>>67822188You used so many incorrect words, in an attempt to look intelligent you made yourself look retarded. I agree with your points but there's like 5 wrong words used in there
>>67822369Based fluffy boi pilot
>>67822369Your deck is trash lol
>>67822375Discourage autocorrected, the rest is fine. Phone posting while drunk, never ever.
How would she work as commander?
So the real question is: Which is generally better in edh, Cryptic Command or Mystic Confluence?After playing both for a while I'm tempted to say Mystic Confluence
>>67822360What about Nicol Bolas the Ravager?
>>67822420Tempo-control-voltron or Fairys
>>67822281ADAA reporting in. I've been here every day since I typed out my giant kruphix eldrazi list before the prophet ban.
>>67822424Cryptic Command is based and can save your life in combat. I don't think I'd run it outside of mono blue though.
>>67822471So there's no reason to ever play Cryptic Command in EDH, got it
>>67822390based and bropilled>>67822394based and schizopilled
>>67822432I love the card, but you want a commander that is actually a piece of your wincon.Marchesa the Black Rose would probably be the best option, but at that point you're just playing a deck that's too dependent on the combat step and you're forced to run a few sub optimal creatures.You can always fall back on a Consult line, but at that point, just play Kess.
>>67822504Fair enough, but Mystic Confluence sux and you should never run it. Cryptic Command is narrowly playable, Mystic Confluence is for craw wurm.
>>67822449>>67822369>>67822360im also here everyday because iwork from homebased frens, we've prolly been talking to each other for years
>>67822424confluence is easier to cast, and will probs get you more value in general. cryptic is still great though. i run both, cryptic as a team tap to blow out kiki-jiki/splintertwin combos is great, but is overcosted for what it does. i don't mind 5 mana for counter, draw, draw on confluence, but it always feels overcosted paying 1UUU for whichever two modes you choose on cryptic. >>678222812 years? i only pay close attention for a few days at a time, leave for a week-month and then come back for updates on what everyone is doing/thinking.
>>67822599Most likely. Hi friend.
>>67822599It's true. We've probably called eachother fags 10 billion times. I've gotta say, this is a really comfy feel.
You can give a creature pseudo Vigilance with Maze of Ith, right?
>>67822702Sure? It also lets you combo out with kikijiki in combat like a mad cunt.
>>67822713Like you can technically do it after damage is assigned before formally stepping into the main phase 2
>>67819387https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/fright-milk-fight-with-the-power-of-a-scarecrow/it is artifacts and scarecrows. pretty simple stuff, it looks to combo out and destroy the board with infinite king triggers. suggestions are helpful, i am always looking to revise and upgrade, but also looking to stay fairly budget as i would rather not spend money if i don't have to.
https://www.gtsdistribution.com/SUPPLIES/ULTRA-PRO-MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-PLAYMAT-WAR-OF-THE-SPARK-ALTERNATE-ART-NARSET.aspanime waifu playmats soon
>>67822555I play the Ravager for my grixis storm deck. If I'm ever in a real rough spot (doesnt usually happen). Hes an alternate win con that can at the very least get me back into the game. I was quite surprised at how strong he is. But that's storm.
>people are unironically paying 50+ dollars for this years preconsWhy?
>>67822729Kind of? You need to use more words anon. Yes, you can use it to save your creature from a dangerous blocker, no you can't have it also assign combat damage and be untapped. You could always run this one mana beast if you're in white.
>>67822789only reddit virgins buy precons/edhg/ chads dont buy commander products
>>67822815What if I buy 100 singles in a nice packaging with a free oversized card included?
>>67822420I ran her for a bit, unfortunately I've found Oona is just a more solid commander, even if you're just doing tribal.
Can some autistic friend run down the usefulness of all the WAR planeswalkers? I'm thinking about adding Ugin to my deck and want to hear some opinions.
>>67822991What's your deck?
>>67823003A pretty strong read: I run timetwister monoblue list. I put in new Narset and goddamn she put in work. I'd run ashiok if I could, but since the list is artifact based, I think Ugin adds some excellent removal and helps me with a lot. Flipside, he'd be the highest CMC card in my deck. I also have a less powerful monoblack deck I'd be interested in.
>>67823030What's the commander and the strat?
>>67822991Ugin+Sensei's Top+applicable Future Sight effect is draw your deck and massive Storm count.>Nars3t is oppressive with wheels and draws you a card for the trouble.>Ashiok is much better at higher levels of play. Personally I dislike him since he limits the ability of the table to self-correct>T3feri is a pubstomp card. Great in constructed bad in mp since he reads: target player plays through one player's worth of disruption instead of possibly 3>Sorin is pretty good since he isn't likely to eat removal and his loyalty gets really high easily.>Gideon is surprisingly good in Enchantress type decks that can easily recur and recast enchantments for triggers. He's great with Rancor.>Liliana is solid in aristocrats>Jace is Labman pt. II>Ajani is good in Superfriends>Tamiyo is good against Aristocrats and is just easy value in UGxNothing else is worth running.
>>67823091Right now I'm running a modified Urza Stax list where I either storm off and aetherflux someone, or grind value and beat people with X/X robots.
>>67823140Go with UginIf your deck is built correctly, you'll be able to play him and a free artifact in the same turn
>>67823130Saheeli, Sublime Artificer is pretty alright in storm decks too
>>67823194Oh, you are right, and I suppose the Ral has a little use too.
>>67823130No love for Darveil or whatever?>>67823158Anyways, thanks both anons, that's really helpful! I personally think WAR is Urza's saga, planeswalker edition, so I'm stocking up on good walkers that might see play in other formats so I don't need to spend 10k when a good edh deck uses one.
>>67823194>>67823206These two also make killer oathbreaker commanders
>>67822991I use nUgin in my Jhoira cheerios deck. It's very decent at being a somewhat resilient cost reducer. Plus it's another wincon in and of itself since it draws the deck with sensei's top.
Truth time>commander-only cards are cool for the format>new and old legendary commanders are equally fun to play with and, more importantly, to play against>it is not a problem to play to win or play for fun, but if you can't have fun even when you lose you are playing the wrong format
>>67823268Truth was told
>>67821639>They made Voltaic Key obsoletelike for fuck sale that card is one of the most ultimate classics of "Way too fucking powerful" and they made it better. God damnit WotC just stop. they aren't even trying to hide that they're power creeping their shit game anymore.
>>67823250Is cheerios fun to play? Do you run any land destruction or just focus on storming off?
>>67823130I'd argue that Saheeli is good in any spellslinger or artifact based deck, hell even enchantress could get lods of value out of her.
>>67822420I run her a ton. She's pure control; counterspells, edicts, board wipes, instant-speed filters (Impulse clones) and wins through commander damage via cheap equipment (Jitte, Runechanter's, Blackblade Reforged maybe)Flash + self-bounce makes her perfect for the strategy. Unless you play like an idiot, she never dies, and nobody even wants to try to remove her.I've honestly found her to be the only commander that is actually capable of going the distance, consistently, with commander damage. So many Voltron-style commanders just get shit on by removal and wipes, but she sticks no matter what, and flash lets her skirt around almost everything that can take her out.So yeah, pure control + just a touch of the best Voltron pieces to help her get to 21/63.A few Manlands to carry your weapons in case you can't get her to stick also help; Inkmoth + Runechanter's is hilarious.
>>67822991the following are worth running>jaceanother lab man that doesn't just sit around waiting for you to draw the last card but facilitates getting you there. don't run if you aren't looking to win with it, esp. considering it is 1UUU>lilicard draw is great, token generators are great, edicts are great. expensive at 6 mana, but there are decks that want this>vivennot focused or powerful enough for stronger metas, but it does a lot for one card. great budget card>narsetleovold was banned for a reason. this also puts cards in your hand>bolasit does a lot for one card. mana cost is very restrictive though>tezzeverything on this card is good>domrigreat budget card.>ralgood storm card>tamiyothe static and the -3 are why you play this card, and some decks want the +1>teferilocks people out, gives you more freedom to play. the -3 isn't bad either>ashiokthis card does serious work. play in muldrotha and never look back>dovintonnes of decks want more tax effects>kioracard draw is very useful, and so is ramp>saheelianother great storm card>karngreat stax/hate card that can grab exiled combo pieces from exile. pairs great with mycosynth lattice>uginweenies, cards, cost reduction, and removal for colours that don't really get removal. amazing card. every monocoloured/colourless deck wants this
>>67823268>Banning cards is for weenies>Making the excuse that your LGS needs a way to be controlled is weak as fuck, as you're most likely playing with randoms which is already an uphill battle for enjoyment>if you're not playing with beers and snacks, what's the fucking point>Any power level is fine
>>67823349I find cheerios fun, but it's very much a solitaire strategy with little room for pet cards. Ideally you want to just focus on storming off, but I powered down my deck by putting in a good amount of interaction since my meta is kind of low powered.
>>67823380>leovold was banned for a reason.This. Honestly, if there was a single card on the top of my "Potential banlist-worthy cards." it'd be every card with this type of effect. Notion Thief especially, but NuNarset is up there.
>>67823380>karn>can grab exiled combo pieces from exile.Anon... That does not work.
>>67823488>You may choose an artifact card you own from outside the game or in exile, reveal that card, and put it into your hand.It doesn't work? How so?
>>67823488I actually read the card, it specifically says "or exile" I'm an idiot.
>>67823513I think he's referring to the sideboard fetch text on the card, grabbing from exile should be fine tho.
>>67823430100% agree, it basically forces you to run on board planeswalker/creature hate which is so vulnerable when you're up against decks that want to abuse wheels. I can see narset getting a lot of hate in the future, but at least she can't be your commander.What's her legality in oathbreaker?
>>67823513See >>67823528Always saw him used as a wish, now I appreciate him more and he's also really nice with nuGerrard.
>>67823585>Always saw him used as a wishwishes are gay and should all be banned in commander, just so you don't have to deal with the problem of some fag thinking it is okay to play spawnsire of ulamog and cast 200 eldrazi
I want a new deck, one that's not really similar to my existing decksThe decks I already have:>Jarad Dredge (BG)>Scorpion God -1/-1 (BR)>Obzedat Lifegain/Extort (WB)>Mirko Mill (UB)Any suggestions for something totally different?
>>67823644play ruhan control. you control the board and keep it clear while ruhan smash
>>67823238Davriel is fine, but I was evaluating them wrt to their usefulness or perceived usefulness in edh
>>67823624>should allthey aren't banned but they don't function
>>67823380No love for bobby nix?it's another Nekusar for him and else you can always either kill a really annoying creature (if you think it's worth two cards) or just costly plunder one of yours.
>>67823380Ob is like a second nekusar, and usually gives you card advantage, I think he's pretty good and can be in almost any mono black or aristocrat deck.
>>67823644RG Omnath landfall
>>67823734way too overcosted for what it does. if you are desperate for another underworld dreams, go for it, but its loyalty ability is garbage.
>>67823752This is pretty fun. I love a red heavy one in a slower meta but you could just go full green scapeshift sorta thing
Oh, Nissa is actually a decent mana doubler in mono green, just never Ult her with Black or White at the table.
>>67823728>they aren't banned but they don't functionunfortunately not everyone understands this, and people will sometimes try and pull stupid shit with the wish cards, and claim it is allowed because it is a "casual format." they should be banned just to save the argument from happening. it would get rid of karn, and that makes me sad, but it is for the greater good.
>>67823831Oh wow, you walked right into that wrath didn't you?
>>67820091I have a deck full of fun Yuriko cards because Yuriko is the most fun I've had playing commander in a long time. Modern Horizons has been a huge boon to the deck, and this is on top, though the 1/1 unblockable changeling for 1 is up up there in at least usefulness as well as the scry 2 faerie for 1 as well. Cunning Evasion, however, is just amazing because you can bounce your ninjas that get blocked and ninjitsu them right back into play. It's a lose/lose scenario for your opponents.
>>67822420She's so good. Counters spells some equipment and draw you really can't go wrong
>>67823879No, but my friend walked into mine.
>>67823583>on board planeswalker hateYou mean CREATURES?
>>67824075Exile wrath? Because the lands are indestructible thanks to the ult first effect
>>67824144Mass Exile or Toxic Deluge.Cataclysm works too.
>>67821024Dragonlord is not gey, u are gey
>>67824205WE'RE NOT PLAYING MAGIC THE TAPPENING
>>67824144Mutilate is 4 cmc
>>67824144>indestructibleu are like little babby
>>67824292>Today on "Cards no one remember"
Which token commander and why:RhysTrostaniTesyaGhaveHapatra
>>67824346It's very good.
>>67824259>As if you have a choice
>>67824346I guess it'd be fine in Bantchantress since it's cheap and acts as a cantrip.
>>67820091Lorthos, the TidemakerClone LegionDeep-Sea KrakenHypnoxBlinkmoth Infusion
>>67820423Huh. That's a sneaky callback.
Should any Bx deck run Urborg + Cabal Coffers?
>>67824449Hypnox could be so good if he didn't have that drawback. Hes not really worth playing as is
>>67821500Debtors' Knell and/or Lifeline?
>>67824449>cast from handGarbage
>>67824535Not every, but most are probably fine with it.If you want to rip fat X spells then sure.If you're in 3c, maybe reconsider.
>>67824538what do you consider a non boring commander?
>>67822598I'd disagree. Running Mystic as a 5CMC counterspell is bad, or a 5CMC draw-3 at instant speed is pretty poor, but the flexibility makes it viable, especially for that bounce 3. Cryptic, for example, usually is just "1UUU - Counter target spell, draw a card", which is terrible. It's the usability of the other modes, the bounce and the tap down, that make it usable and even good.Most charms are over costed for their effects, but the sheer number of them makes them good as their card economy is higher than the number of other, cheaper cards that would accomplish the same effects.I wouldn't run Mystic in a hyper-tuned meta, but it does very well in 75% from my experience.
>tfw STILL no abzan cleric tribal commander
>>67823268Is this secretly Based Jankabrask?
>>67824580Zirilan of the Claw
>>67820423>been thanos'dman, wotc has really been riding the avengers thing hard, haven't they? war prerelease was opening weekend of endgame, has a card called "commence the endgame," super big bad with godlike powers associated with the colour purple, all the PW are like all the superheroes that show up in endgame, Teferi, Time (t)Raveler, and I'm sure there are a bunch more parallels. not to mention maro explicitly stating multiple times that jace is their "mickey mouse," and that they like follow disney where they can.
>>67824580Krenko, Tin Street Kingpin
>>67823644Mono-Black Skittles Voltron
>>67823624Sideboards or "wishboards" are not in the rules for EDH and are specifically mentioned as such.>>Rule 13: Abilities which bring card(s) you own from outside the game into the game (such as Wishes; Spawnsire of Ulamog; Karn, the Great Creator) do not function in Commander.http://mtgcommander.net/rules.php?PRINT=1
I bought 30 snow-covered swamps for Erebos just so I can run Dead of Winter :)
>>67824543>>67824568The idea was more to topdeck a card that would deal 11 damage to your opponents, but yeah. It's pretty bad.
>>67824735I'm very proud of you for this. Dead of Winter is such a well-designed card. Don't forget to invest in an Extraplanar Lens too.
>>67824710that won't stop the argument from happening, and people are so commited they will bring up the "house rules" section next, and again claim that it is a "casual" format. people don't put up as much of a fight to keep playing wrong when it is the banlist they are going up against, at least in my experience.
>>67824766Eh, I already have one, but I probably won't run it just because black already has better mana doublers and I'm running all of them. I will probably force a Sunstone though.
>>67824602just play the moron
>>67824584>It's the usability of the other modes, the bounce and the tap down, that make it usable and even good.This. I don't think of it as a counterspell as much as something you can use as a counterspell.You know, I'll say if you're playing Melek, then Confluence could be a pretty wild draw spell, but even then.>>67824781As someone that likes wishes, tell them to shut up, adhere to muh social contract, or they can scoop it up.Assuming LGS, House Rules don't work outside the host's house.
>>67822281Since spoiler season for planeswalker commanders. Lurking for a very long time before that.
>>67824741I assume Draco is in the deck? He has sealed many kills for me in Volrath
>>67824809Not running such a powerful and valuable card seems like a waste of resources.
>>67824357Marath because token copies of your opponents' creatures are fun to have and he can combo out when you need him to.
>>67823644Stop playing black
>>67823644Jeskai spellslinger or enchantments. Maybe something storm-y with the new djinn or a pillowfort with the new wall.
>>67825222kindly get your racism out of here
Simic? More like Semetic
>>67824900>>67824357>Want fun, unique token commander>Think Rhys, Hapatra, Teysa or Trostani fit that billWhy even bother asking, just go netdeck you faggot
>>67824900Krav & Regna
>>67825238would a racisthate niggers?>>67825350>>67824900just run krav fren>>67824735blessed
>>67824900Liu Bei, Lord of Shu
>>67825262I thought that was the Orzhov though.
>>67825440>just run krav frenBut then you don't get white. I mean, you're not supposed to -cast- Regna, anon>blessedThanks
>>67824357Kykar. Because opposition and purphoros and anointed procession
>>67825456Orzhov are the financial small-hats, Simic are the cultural small-hats.
>>67825262they are GUish
>>67825475>>67825440>>67825350>tfw picked up 13 kravs and 1 regna when battlebond droppedfeels good, mangs
>>67825678>13 kravs and 1 regna>1 Regnawut
>>67825866Is this a BLACKED.com joke?
yo my dudes, feel like making a BU deck with some cool stuff and jank. think X is a good commander for it/in general? got any card recommendations? i only got into magic recently
>>67825897>i only got into magic recentlyThen I'd pick a less jank deck. May I recommend Ramses Overdark or Silumgar?
@67825897>new IP>dying threadI can't believe how easily you are able to get (You)s
>>67825897Out of all the un-legendaries I've seen. This is the one I wanna make a deck out of most.
>>678258191 set of krav/regna to play, 12 to sit on. t3ysa was good for me, but im gonna keep sitting. they aren't going to reprint anytime soon, unless they decide to put partner with commanders as reprints in a future commander set. i could see them doing that for reprints of will/rowan, krav/regna, and pir/toothy. other 3 partner with pairs are garbo, so i don't know who they'd pick for the last one.>>67825881god i wish i was that clever.
>>67825881Probably? I'm not that anon who bought the kravs. I just saw what was implied.
>>67825954Baron von Count is way more fun
>>67825969>>67825976Regna is no for sexual reeee
Torn on trying mono-red out.I have a list made, but can still be revised, for Varchild. I can probably put together a list for Pashalik Mons, which I could easily imagine as just Impact Tremors and sac outlets, and maybe new Krenko, which would functionally be pretty similar to Varchild.Then as always there's the Big Red Neheb meme,
>>67825986This guy just looks really interesting because he seems like a janky but good theft commander.
>>67825930>>67825897i should clarify, i only got into commander recently. pretty burned out of more competitive formats and im gonna be playing with some chill folks. not familiar with overdark really, he seems neat with enchantment play honestly. Silumgar is pretty neat, seems hard for me to fuck up how he works>>67825954i feel like he could be alot of fun>>67825986wow, baron seems pretty cool honestly. havent played black red much.
>>67826077I'll tell you what I tell all new players who come to /edhg/ 1) What do you have fun doing2) How do you want to win>>67826022Zirilan my nigga
New thread when
>>678261921)janky stuff, politics, relatively gimmick based stuff2) could care less how really, dont need to be anything that wins reliably. i like to be able to rely on me making the right choice rather than tuder-ing a 2 card combo to knock out a player(s)
Litches get stitches
>>67826380So do snitches and politics players.
>>67826380I just want to make a deck where the ‘you can’t lose the game’ cards work
>Oathbreaker threads are on life supportI didn't need to do shit. Amazing.
>>67826489My dick on the right
>>67826523put a Yugi wig and it will be perfect.
>>67826489>gloating about a flash-in-the-pan format not doing well
>>67826192I respect Zirilan, but dragons aren't my thing. Varchild and Pashalik aren't going to get any old-border cred, but they're unpopular enough and have some coherency that I can work with and enjoy myself.Though my hesitation with Pashalik is being haunted by the Purphoros that I'm obligated to run alongside Impact Tremors. But that's a $20-30 card, could be worseI take back Neheb. Pre-WAR Neheb is too popular. God, it's just mono-red dragons doesn't get my engine running.
new thread time:>>67826602
>>67826426I've tried to make Lich's Mirror work and it does not>>67826541She's fun but kind of a one trick pony>>67826523Good lord she's uglyAre any new cards in C19 not ugly?
>>67826519I feel you anon. It's glorious.>>67826571>not gloating whenever possible about anythingReminder, this is what oathbreaker players look like.
>>67826619>Reminder, this is what oathbreaker players look like.Is this true?
>>67826619Jokes on you, I don't even play commander :^)
>>67826619Reminder: This is what your average edh player looks like
>>67826642Objective fact. I took that picture on the train yesterday, he was whining like a passive aggressive bitch in a high pitch voice while getting chewed out by his female boss for the entire trip.
>>67826687How do you know he plays oathbreaker?
>>67826675Sigi has a nice beard and afull head of hair though
>>67826687You have some severe issues
>>67826723I mostly wanted to post that picture. >>67826738Probably, but that image has nothing to do with it. People take pictures of me all the time, fuck if I care.
>>67826769>I mostly wanted to post that picture.Why? This isn't /b/
>>67826769You might want to wonder why people are taking so many pictures of you
>>67826791Autosage hours, anything goes.>>67826795 I'm 6'8" and Asian tourists are amazed, normal city things.
>>67826822so you're the guy that posted the fake thread earlier
>>67826859Nah man. What did it even say? It got deleted before I could look.
>>67823644God Eternat Oketra hatebears and taxes. Drag everyone down to mono White's level and outvalue them by having a ton of 4/4s.
>>67824735I considered doing the same thing for my mono B deck, but I can't justify spending ~$20 just on basic lands right now.
Anybody got secret tech for my slimy mimey? I'm looking for ways to make her flip earlier and safer, as well as interesting ways to use the mana once I get it. My group has some players who run highly competitive decks, and some who run jank, so I want some of each in the deck.
>>67824710>not playing spawnsire of ulamog and breaking out your stack with one copy of every changeling creature, not including a single printed eldrazi>not winning the game with game trail changeling mistform ultimus
>>67823268SOme cards I could see being banned, but the problem is I don't agree with anyone else on exactly which cards should be banned.Solution? DOrky pants!
>>67828114That is a REALLY hard card to flip, but it's got some real payoff. Most of the tech I can think of is outside of mono-green though.. oof. (Color-shifted Endless Horizons WHEN!?)Abundance is a thing. Dryad Greenseeker.... Life from the Loam obviously, simple stuff like the Mulch clones (Winding Way, etc.), Realms Uncharted (with any graveyard recursion, it gets you 4)..The Great Aurora for some serious jank?Elder Pine of Jukai + Spirit tribal?Yeah, I can't imagine Sasaya flipping very fast, considering you also want to play a land every turn. As for payoffs, holy shit you'd actually have enough mana to unironically with Helix Pinnacle, without doing any counter-doubling cheese... damn
>Page elevenWhere's new thread guy when you need him?!