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BUTTE HOLD HAHAalsoCan someone help me fix this MekHQ error? The mech icon is not showing but it does exist in the directory. This also happens to other mechs as well...https://imgur.com/a/C12N45f
>>67790716Sorry no idea. Never seen that one before.
>>67790716That's new one to me too, anon.
We're passing the hat for a worthy veteran of the recent unpleasantness.GoFundMe [ dot ] com/3rd-wobm-division-dieron-veterans-fund
So... how many of you have girlfriends that play?
>>67790928Princess is my waifu so I've got that going for me.
>>67790716Did you install that mech pack that CA posted? Because you've got to update the localclient_mechset.txt AND the localserver_mechset.txt files.
What would be the equivalent of a thompson sub-machine gun for IS Mechs to go after Clanners with? AC10? U-AC10?
>>67791011no i did not, but a restart fixed it.However I notice that those mechs are a little different artistically from the rest.
>>67791154Restart fixes a crazy amount of stuff in MekHQ.
>>67790928Does Princess count?
I want to choose two stars and two lances from the Kickstarter. I'm pretty sure one of those lances will be the one with Atlas, but which of the first two unseen lances should I go with, the one with Archer, Marauder, Wasp and Valkyrie or the one with Rifleman, Warhammer, Phoenix Hawk and Stinger?
Does the Combine do regencies, or would a Warlord just murder the young Kurita and declare himself Coordinator, or is there too much bad blood about the idea of a non-Kurita Coordinator after the Von Rohrs?
>>67791800They do de-facto regencies with weak puppet coordinators. Never call it as it is though.
>>67791776in a perfect world, they'd have put the rifleman/warhamer/marauder in 1 set.
>>67791877I mean would they say "X Kurita is 8, until he's 16 he's Coordinator-Designate" or would they just crown the kid straight away?
>>67791681What kind of gun is that in the background?
>>67791977What mech is THAT, does it wield a plasma rifle? No idea about that big gun.
>>67792026solitaire. the eurobeat mech.
>>67791946If memory serves, they went for straight "crown the kid and use him like a sock puppet" plots at least once. I think it's in the Caballeros books.
>>67792026Solitaire. That's a Heavy Large Laser on a 30 or 35t chassis.
>>67792116even better. 25.
>>67791902Why exclude Archer?
>>67791977Did some type of fetishist draw this? It's got a jizz laser and double CT lasers reminiscent of the Mackie's double-dong lasers, just higher up.
>>67790605>tfw Kickstarter is ending soon and I still haven't pulled the trigger I don't own the game at all, but I love this era of BattleTech so much I want to buy in. Seriously considering getting the 150 dollar level, but not sure what to throw in as an addon. Are these clan packs going to be widely available post kickstarter? I imagine the prices won't be the same, but I want all of them and just not sure if I can afford going all in now... I'm not even certain I can convince my normie friends to play this, but I just want as many mechs as possible for dat variety. How easy is it to find pickup games of BattleTech?
>>67792176>Why exclude Archer?I swear, I had something for this.
>>67792419>How easy is it to find pickup games of BattleTech?Reddit is reddit, but they do have a battletech finder sub with contacts who know local players to help you find a game.
Are there Belter-like birth defects in Battletech from living in space stations or heavy gravity?
>>67792819That's pretty cool. I've literally never used Reddit before though, so kinda makes me anxious to think about. I really just love this game, and I know one day I hope to play the RPG so it'd be nice to have the OmniMech variety.
>>67792963The majority of mankind seems to trend towards stock homo sapiens really. The Terran Belters don't have any gravity defects, and the expanding colonization push looked for worlds fairly close to 1G.
>>67792971I used to use it for porn, since its great for finding a supply stuff relevant to my specific niche interests. But once you make an account you can just private message whoever is closest to you so you only ever have to interact with that person.
>>67792971It's a website
>>67793272No, it's """that""" website
>>67793509Very fine job there, Anon. I like your purple very much.Any plans yet for a contrasting color?
>>67791977>>67791681But seriously I'd like to know the gun in the background.
>>67793584It's nothing. It's a gun in the background to give the background some sizzle. If anything, it looks like something off of a model kit traced into the picture.
>>67792419>How easy is it to find pickup games of BattleTech?Where do you live? If you're in Seattle, Dallas, Denver, Chicago, Cincinnati, Dayton, Minneapolis, Toronto, or DC, good news: you're near a large-ish and well-established group.
>>67793584>I'd like to know the gun in the background.Surface to orbit defense gun. Probably a naval laser.
>>67793552Not mine. Found it on the booru.
>>67793636So they never stopped on how to repair/build them? You'd think C* would put a stop to that
>>67793622>DallasIf you're in Dallas, this weekend is Animefest, and the Battletech guys run games pretty much around-the-clock there. Maybe since my kids are old enough to have cell phones now, I can actually get a chance to play this year!
>>67793639soooooo sexy, holy shit. I love the color choices.
>>67793622I live in Tampa Bay area, but I frequently take trips to Colorado (where I'm from originally). I see people playing BattleTech every StarFest and I have never joined them, but next year plan to.
>>67793639>>67793854It's very vaporwave. I want to shoot things with it while yelling PURPLE BIRD STRONK.
>>67793639>>67793509seems like partially Zenith lighted with an airbrush God I need to get my aircompressor and start practicing.
Can the Coyotes get some love this decade?
>>67794084Only if it's revealed the Society still remains and are in control of the Clan.
>>67793622>DCReally!?>well, I should have expected>between sighting a starter box in a store window and driving my nephew out to get it after work the next day somebody had pounced on it
>>67793810People with them moved mountains to keep them running, then the post-Helm hit, Wobbies invented the sub-capital, etc.
>>67793622>Chicago>Toronto>DCHow do you keep Basketball Individuals from stealing your Savannah Masters?
>>67794110>Only if it's revealed the Society still remains and are in control of the Clan.If only
What do you think the retail price of the mech packs is going to be?
>>67794424I did some googling an it looks like DC group plays mainly on Saturdays, the one day of the week I can't do. FML.
>>67794110I mean, they could, but that would be line saying that Space AT&T is still run by Blakists. Aka kinda lazy
>>67794865Mate, if you can't make Saturdays happen, you shouldn't be gaming at all.
I just picked up the new starter set, man I love the models now. I haven't played for a few years now and these are the first mechs I actually want to paint. Trying out a simple Steiner scheme for em
Which faction would be most likely to still be fielding a bandersnatch in 3145?
>>67795396Republic of the Sphere
>>67795332Before I do it, questioning if any anon has tried and failed-Has anybody tried slicing off the missile racks on the Catapult, putting on 40K bits, and calling it a Kurita-pattern?
>>67795544Why would you fail? Seems like a relatively simple conversion. What bits would you use? That's the one with two Gauss rifles, right?
>>67795544>Before I do it, questioning if any anon has tried and failedAre you suggesting the duke's son is an animal?
>>67789841Lie to me if you must, anons. The Mercury is good orthodox grogtech, right? Right???
>>67795594For a while.as a downgrade... then went extinct- long, long before 3025. Blipped back into existence as a Comstar aftermarket downgrade for the dracs. Sorry?
>>67795332Looking nice, maybe texture the bases?
>>67795721Textured bases are hard to strip, though.
>>67795396Mercs or someone in the periphery
>>67795585>Are you suggesting the duke's son is an animal?Im suggesting he might be human.....
>>67795721Yeah I'm trying to decide what to do with em. I'll have to get like 2mm static grass, or try to do an urban scene, or something, I'm not sure
>>67795758TEXTURED BASES ARE HARD TO STRIP THOUGH>i wouldn't be going on like this but I have legit stripped and repainted a pair of mechs twice lately. When the paint job starts to matter, you develop different values.
>>67795738So? Just paint over the texture.>>67795758Grass grown over old ruins?
>>677955812 PPCs. And I think 2 plasma rifles during the republic era. I don't think they every had a dual gauss version.
Why is it so cute?
>>67795969The HII is better.
>>67795803Textured bases are the last step. I haven't had to strip one of my minis in five or more years, anyway
>>67795969Helepolis is cuter.
>>67795969>Why is it so cute?Long range package delivery.
Page 10 bumpKeep the threads alive you bloody wankers
Where do you get map terrain like this?
>>67792096They sometimes put the coordinator's wife or relative on the throne as a regent if his heir was too young. That's how Siriwan got to be the de facto coordinator twice.
>>67793854Purple and Orange are both criminally underused colors.
>>67799362>Go to google maps>Copy a town/cityscape you want>Enter photoshop, and add hex field with numbers>Print with a large printer>?????>Profit!
>>67799362>>67799545Looks like this.
>>67799545>>67799554Fascinating. I used to think that would be a cool idea for th4e background of shmups back in the late 80s when the technology would be better and well, here we are. Thx.
>>7789182>Falcons did take one of their objectives, though.Oh, right. They did briefly capture one objective, but got shoved off it and didn't hold it at the end of the battle. They were still awarded the draw because of muh K/D ratio, not because they held one objective at the end.
AtB questions. I have been reading campaignAnon's guide. Ranks on support personal.He even gives rank to astechs. How does this affect the campaign rules wise?I know it's nice fluff, but I want to know if there is a rules effect in doing so.
They've put a big PDF of colour schemes in the kickstarter dropbox.
>>67800286Mostly for fluff reasons, since you're running a military outfit. The only difference is that officers rate better pay than other ranks, so once that grizzled veteran/elite Tech sergeant is dragged kicking and screaming into the officer's mess, his pay makes a sudden jump.
>>67800446Officers get a +mod ok, I got that now. But how do I assign someone as officer? Is it a specific rank and higher supposed to be an officer? Which one? I am not familiar with military ranks at allAlso, in case CA is reading this, perhaps it would be best if he mentioned in this part (making sup.personnel sergeants) is mostly fluff? People might get confused like I did.Btw, thank you all for your assistance in AtB and MekHQ. Awesome software but a little daunting to new guys.
>>67800286Technically I go out of my way to actually avoid a point in time I ever have that many astechs, but that's because I've had a bloated save file with a few hundred of them.>>67800574>But how do I assign someone as officer?Right click personnel: Change Rank (first in the list), then anything from Lieutenant up. Just note that there's usually only one Colonel (or whatever your highest rank is) in the unit.>making sup.personnel sergeants) is mostly fluff?Making Astechs have a rank is absolutely not fluff. Per Field Manual Mercenaries: Revised, your contract pay is based on your unit's payroll, IE: every member of the unit who has a rank. It's probably a little high on that score, but FMMr assigns regular Technicians as basically privates, rather than my own interpretation of having them as at least E10.
>>67800574>how do I assign someone as officerRight-click their name in the Personnel tab, select "change rank" and set their new rank. If you're using the preset Star League ranks, Lieutenant JG to the various Generals are officers.>I am not familiar with military ranks at allBrief primer, using the Star League ranks as an example: you start as a Private, which is the lowest of the low. After some time of competent service, you're promoted to Corporal, which is the lowest rung on the non-commissioned officer (NCO) ladder. Some of those do even more competent service and get promoted to Sergeants, and on the top of the NCO pile sits the Master Sergeant who is usually THE senior NCO of the unit.For officers, you come out of officer school and start at Lieutenant JG (junior grade), climbing the ranks as you put in time served and again that competent service. Lt JGs are your typical lance leaders, Lieutenants SG (senior grade) are usually Company second-in-commands OR specialist lance/platoon leaders, whilst a Captain leads a company. Majors can command a battalion or work as a second-in-command if your unit is commanded by a Colonel. The sergeant-turned-officer in my earlier post is something called a Late Entry Officer, and you can spot them around the technical trades (your techs' platoon leader, Lieutenant X, resigns for a life of beach loungers and no myomer? "Let's make an officer and gentleman out of Sergeant Rock and put him in charge!")
How much aerospace assets did a Royal division have in the pre-succesion wars SLDF?
Who like their Catapult variants here?
>>67799362>>67799545Or you just get them here https://mapmasterbattlemaps.com/
>>67801344Each regiment had a wing, plus whatever was aboard the Dropships. The SLDF used Dropships as their primary ASF carriers, not Warships, but we don't know the nature of the Dropships available to a division.Also, several regiment types included LAMs, sometimes in significant numbers, which count as about half an ASF.
>>67801498Even the armour and infantry regiments?
>>67801533Sorry, Mechs regiments. The others are unknown.
thanks for the primer. Real helpful to non-US, non-military knowledgeable BT fans.
>>67801498>CGL Incompetence 23>23FFS there's that much more? Can we have a rough kraut take over the company with WWII german efficiency or something? The kraut can play the efficient straight man and then you have the brash Captain Kirk type play the creative head director and make something of that company.
>>67800358The same one you can get off of Sarna, it seems?
>>67801710And have something like quality german shadowrun supplements whose rules get translated by fans for anglo-bros because licensing disallows the german firm to print in english?Never! That would be to easy.
>>67801386Catapults are awesome.
>>67801758>Not understanding the brash young sexy Kirk making sure rules are bent for the rest of us.The same company that made BT in the first place used to do a Star Trek RPG.
>>67801823The more you know, I guess.
You came to the wrong neighborhood, faggot.
>>67801922I see you there, Reseen Abomination!
>>67801922>>67801927Somebody needs a hero?
>>67799288>picSomeone liked this phoneposted crap enough to save it? Huh.
>>67801934The unit armourer is about to have some Words with the pilot about that laser later.
>>67802112Psst, it's an old pilot. Laser droop happens to the best of them. Not me, but, I've heard....
>>67802136But just look at how high that AC/5 is standing!
>>67802308Anon, sometimes mecha Viagra affects the wrong extremity. It happens.
Are ghost bears at all Russian?
I need a BattleTech filename for this one
>>67802995Only in that they've got vatnik-tier fans. Otherwise no
>>67803089Katherine taming the Davion spirit
>>67802995I thought they were scandi as fuck.
>>67802087If it pisses off the autistic joyless prick who reports any and all whoreposting, then saving and posting even that crap is a public service.
>>67803275They are indeed, and even more so after forming the Dominion with the FRR.
>>67803275Not until the writers decided the FRR would love them.
>>67803636Nah, they always had a bunch of Scandinavian names.
I wish there was a way to get in contact with CA but instead I have no other way but to spam the board.In his guide for AtB regarding xp he writes: " For Technical and Medical the Skills XP ranges have been changed to 0/5/10/10/20/40/50/60/80. This allows for 0 rated Doctors and Technicians meaning there’s less excitement involving lost parts and exacerbated injuries"I don't really get what he mean by 0 level and how is that a good thing? Previously, the way the costs where set, Sup personnel skipped a level I (think they went from v.green to regular)
What's the Israel of the BattleTech universe?
>>67803670So by default, doctors and certain other skills could only get to 5+ rating. That is, a medical check needs to roll 5 plus whatever modifiers the injury adds. With a 0 rated doctor, that doctor starts at 0 on 2d6 and adds the modifiers
>>67804164ah zero rates is like a mechwarrior has 0 in piloting and gunnery, ok got. But why add a step in leveling in the campaign options?If I understand correctly, as per AtB leveling non-com is "Non-combat skills start at 9 and always skip from 9 to 7. The costs for advancing Techs, Admins and Doctors skills are 10, 20 and 40 to go from Green, to Regular,Veteran and Elite."But in your settings guide, you change the 0 value for 10 (thus not skipping that level). Did I miss something?
>>67791776They both seem of a piece, anon. P-Hawk is a wondermech, balanced with Rifleman being a victim.
>>67804655Consistency mainly. It bothered me that non combatant skills were free for some levels but had a hard stop.
>>67805295Are Archer and Marauder any good?
>>67804099>populated by a culture who see others beneath them>always subverting>always assassinating>always playing the victim>always stealing technologies >possess a nation but are largely stateless and worming their way in everywhere they canComStar/Word of Blake
>>67805563Yes, of course. Rifleman isn't even bad, it's just not a frontline heavy mech and that is the roll it keeps getting dropped into. It's a pretty damn good Anti-Air mech that gets stuck having to be a D-Tier heavy mech because the Inner Sphere doesn't do unit articulation 200+ years into the apocalypse.
>>67805563The Archer is the man's man of fire support boats. It's simple, and even later variants attempt to keep the majority of that simplicity. The Marauder... is less so. It's well known as a command mech, but suffers from thin armor, actually using an AC/5 and bonkers upgrades. It looks great on the table though.
>>67805649Volley fire, anon. Volley fire.
>>67805691Alternating your PPC fire won't help with your sub 20 point torso armor and a torso that contains only a single crit of AC/5 ammo.
>>67805563The Warhammer and P-Hawk are worldbeaters, though. Anything a light mech can do, the P-Hawk can do better. It's usually put as the command mech of a light lance (the Wasp and Stinger), or a super-scout lance of P-Hawks.The Warhammer can shoot two PPCs at a high rate of fire, higher than the Marauder can. It can fight its way out of close range or seal the deal on the armor breaches that it makes as well, which most PPC spammers can't do.>I was just reminded of this in a recent game, where I swear that I had won with an Awesome in good condition holding the field against a worn down Battlemaster with everything else dead or fleeing. Damn Beamer got close and flayed me to pieces while I was desperately knocking 10-point holes where I could.
>>67805843>ah, a fellow Whammy fanPeople tall about that sexy Marauder strut but the Warhammer is the waifu you'll go the distance with
Everybody loves the Warhammer.
>>67805877Warhammer vs Marauder is like the original "both choices are good" debate in Battletech.
>>67805921I raise you the WHM-9D. Criminally underappreciated.
>>67806040Oh please. There's nothing good about Marauders or the people who think they're useful or acceptable on the table. They're terrible people who like a terrible mech.
>>67805609Gotta agree on those points
>>67806452>get 'em, boys
>>67801746F. thats what you get for trusting Japs
>>67806040It reminds me of those "Left Twix vs. Right Twix" commercials.
>>67806149Consider the absolute bastard man -10T
>>67806934>IJJs on a WhammieSeems odd
>>67806822>Being a dirty Left Twixer
>>67807017Exactly, nobody expects a Warhammer to jump seven hexes and then cram two PPCs into their CT(r)
>>67807172I'd prefer Snub PPCs to get in close. More surprising that way
>>67805649>suffers from thin armor,More armor than some disgusting Warhammer, m8
>>67791902He is cute. That smile
Anyone old enough to play the original Mechwarrior 1 on PC back in the day? Any stories?
>>67807697Sorry for the line, was in a rush
Any tips for reducing the amount of supports and print better models?Any king of tip will help.
Is there a canon gauss Dragon?
>>67808168Cuting the models in to pieces seems to help
>>67805609Speaking as a Jewish player I approve of this
>>67808198Yes, the DRG-7N. Has a gauss rifle on the right arm and AC5 on the left.
>>67807793I'm old enough to have played Crescent Hawks' Inception on the good old Commodore 64. Remember, putting money in Nashan Diversified is the safe stockmarket option! I never played MW1, my first PC Mechwarrior was this bastard.
>>67807793Not old enough for that but I remember playing MW2 in elementary school. It’s the main reason I’m clanner scum and backed the current KS.
>>67808323>>67808629If you ever emulate MW1, look up the massive moneys trick. It's fun.
Are Mixed Stars still a thing or is it just Novas?
>>67806822>>67806040Stupid argument because the Thug is superior to both.
>>67809163and the Awesome is superior to the ThugI love em both tho
>>67808907There is this 1 Point of Aerospace and 4 Points of Mechs bit.
>>67809163Assault mechs have no business in a discussion about good heavies anyway, so I don't know why you bothered sharing that.
>>67809417>no St Ives>"Rasalhauge"Absolutely dezgra.
>>67801922Readying bid of Timberwolves...Dang it, they're in storage...>>67803089Would the real Steel Viper please stand up?>>67806822Just remember if it isn't the Right Twix, it's the wrong Twix.>>67808168Clever sectioning is a must for FDM mini printing. Also, don't be afraid of rotation. Some times a bit of rotation can dramatically improve the print (though you may print a lot more support material...).
>>67807793>Anyone old enough to play the original Mechwarrior 1 on PC back in the day? I am, and I did.>Any stories?Nothing exciting; I remember trying to modify the memory setups on the computers in the lab at school to run Mechwarrior, but there was no hope. Those machines were all insufficient.
>>67809507More like St Ive Been An Independent Realm For Like Two Months
>>67809417Federated Commonwealth...Why would anybody want to relive what is an interstellar divorce proceeding that mimics modern times interpersonal relations? Just the chick throws larger plates from the china cabinet in anger.
I'm debating whether to buy a star of elementals or not. Are they really useful?
I would love to see Battletech spinoff game focused on infantry, power armor, and protomechs.
>>67810217BattleTroops. Though sadly it died only just after BA were introduced and before protos were a thing.
>>67809507Now, you wouldn't want the boxes impounded again.
>>67808323>Crescent Hawks inceptionBringing an inferno to a vibroblade fight was always my favorite.That and blowing out the wall in the arena to steal mechs.Mw1 was easy. Get a locust and just run circles around everything and take out the legs.
>>67810217why? infantry are useless in btech
>>67805609Sure, but the robes actually get shit done (openly) and aren't on welfare from more powerful nations. Israel doesn't really have much of an analogue in Battletech, all the better for it if you ask me.
>>67811742>the robes actually get shit done (openly) Israel has done a lot of things openly too. Six Day War, for example. The 1948 War is our Operation Odysseus, in some ways.>aren't on welfare from more powerful nations.Free Worlds League, bro. And help from the Confederation.Praise Blakestein, goyim.
>>67812440Unlike Israel, though, Comstar has started and prosecuted offensive wars, rather than just defending themselves.
>>67812492>we had to attack Syria goy, it was for self-defence!
>>67812492I beliece them defending themselves so sucessfully is very offensive to some people.
pol plz go
>>67811731No they aren't.Field guns, artillery spotters, rape in urban environments.
>>67812492Wrong, all ComStar wars were in defense of humanity.
>>67812440>Comstar>Has a monopoly on all interstellar communication>All interstellar communication must be payed for with C-Bills, a currency controlled exclusively by Comstar>Fucks up anybody's shit who messes with either system (with a few minor slip ups).>Still needs massive hand outs from other states in order to have a functioning economy.Are you trying to trick me?It's okay though anon, you don't have to try to affiliate your favorite social acceptable RL gang with those a fictional universe. A real world state could never be as interesting as one in a fictional universe, the cowards in control of it all in RL are too cucked to do anything bold anymore.
>>67811731>>67812694Battletech infantry while military assets, are obsolescent as tactical assets. They are strategic assets. On a "modern" battlefield they occupy the same tactical niche as a minefield.Since they are affordable and do have *some* tactical utility, they get used tactically. But it isn't a military machine being respectable when it happens.
>>67812769>And by extension the wobbies.Fact.
>>67811742>that's what I named that image, but this poster isn't me
>>67812934Great minds think alike my friend.
>>67809417are these officially what's on the dice/coins? or just a fan mockup
>>67813006Those are the ones CGL is going with, yes and they had a fan to make the image for them. So yes to both. They also have pics of what are going into every pledge and and what the different mech packs will contain.
>>67811731In certain situations they're useful. Sometimes you don't want or can't have a gaint mech stomping around blowing everything up. Honestly I got the idea from seeing a 40K Kill Team thread and thought it would be cool to have this type up game. I remember reading about how Clan Wolf had specialized elemental units used to kill enemy commanders behind enemy lines. Thought it would be fun to have a game replicating that kind of thing or other types of espionage or other types of combat situations where Battle Armor would be ideal and protomechs could maybe work as well.
>>67812807>Are you trying to trick me?
I wonder how Ben Rome feels about this
>>67813553fuck that retard>>67813583>mfw
>>67813716now all we need is one with this face
>>67791136>center torso cockpit for full "headless thompson gunner" action
>>67801934Crinn, you finally got decent colors.
>>67813757Alright, fine. You're is about to pay off.
>>67813823Er, *your persistence* is about to pay off; that is.
So, Q-Nigg from last thread here: what is so retarded about the new Post DarkAge setting?fuck industrial mechs. FUCK agramechs in the assi wanna progress. re-fights in the good olde days are fine, but i want some meat on my plate, not refried beans.
>>67813909>what is so retarded about the new Post DarkAge setting?100 years of peace with a clan mega state on Terra. Hell, that sentence alone is maximum contradiction.>Clanners>Peace
>>67805647You ever try the reverse Marauder Rifleman refit? i.e. swap 1 PPC for 2 LLas. Tames the heat nicely and frees up 2 tons to give you a more Heavy-like armor load. Only downside is that it's asymetric heresy, but it's a small price to pay to rehabilitate a lackluster ride.
>>67814444Maybe they got better.
>>67813757Well, I tried.
>>67814444Quads of truth, clanners don't make a lick of sense.
>>67814609>That Nick Kerensky turned me into a nazi punk bondage-loving furry!>...>I got better
>>67814444wait, which clan? if it was the Bears or the Wolves in Textiles i might just believe it....maybe the Jew Sharks?but aren't the Wolves part of NeoSteiner with the Bears Ruling VikingSpace?wtf?
>>67815042Wolves or Falcons. I hope it's the Falcons. The Bears are gonna get Stoned according to the original notes. Which makes sense. Space Jews are pretending to be Comstar since they conquered Tukayyid in the 3140's but the Fleet of Blake is likely to drop in and ruin their fun.Wolves are carving out their own territory and have been since the late-3130's in the 3rd most retarded decision of the DA. Falcons and Wolves are both within 1 jump of Terra since 3151.Then there's all the sneaky clan beyond the periphery shit that's been going on in Stoner space since the Ilsa Bick novels so we always have the Homeworlder wildcard.
Any recent MVPs?This Locust just took out a light, two heavies, and an assault. Carried the game by far.
>>67815130Should be Sharks/Foxes, Bears, Wolverines, or The Society.It will almost certainly be the Wolves.
>>67815291The complete mishandling of the Spacejews in the DA, especially the modern CGL DA and the Bears being insufferable since the first Dominion War IRL makes me happy they're not getting squat.Not that the Wolves aren't horribly twisted into a mutant freak led by a Steiner Davion incest baby and the Falcons rended and mended by a madwoman who won the Khanship in the burning hulk of a destroyed warship, but they're both better choices. I would laugh my ass off if Kisho and his band of Nova Cat misfits wound up on Terra first though just like that moment in Rat Race.>It's a race. It's a race.>I'm winning. I'm winning!
>>67815339>I would laugh my ass off if Kisho and his band of Nova Cat misfits wound up on Terra first though just like that moment in Rat Race.But that would actually be fun, and neither of the remaining authors at CGL care for fun when they could have pointless warcrimes instead
>>67790928>So... how many of you have girlfriends that play?Wife doesn't, but a couple of my female friends do. Granted, they're both gay, so I'm not sure how much it counts...>>67791136>What would be the equivalent of a thompson sub-machine gun for IS Mechs to go after Clanners with?RAC-5. Good solid quantity of dakka, decent range, and you can take a couple in one arm for better unjamming action. >>67791776The Valk is a very Davion 'Mech. The Whammy/Phoenix Hawk/RFL combo is also stronger than the Archer/Marauder/Valk, but not by much. Wasp and Stinger are functionally identical anyway. >>67794865Eh, PM some folks or post a group message. There are usually a few folks who want a game on the side.
>>67814444Peace? Peace?! I hate the word. As I hate hell, all freebirths, and thee.
>>67810730This reminds me of how speedrun strats in MW2 largely revolve around large numbers of MGs and/or UAC/2s blasting legs off.
>>67809290Some have 4 points of Elementals and 2 ASF but I've only ever seen that with the Wolves.>>67808907Mixed stars are rare. Aside from the Wolf command stars that swap in a point of ASF, the only time you see them is in ad hoc formations like the Jags when they got their shit pushed in or the Bear Trinary from Roar of Honor.>>67810150They're pretty good in cities or as area denial tools, especially for forests. With 3 Jump they can't get around very fast. The APGR variant is fucking terrifying, and long overdue.
>>67812807>Still needs massive hand outs from other states in order to have a functioning economy.Only in the Dark Age, and only after Gray Monday fucked their shit right up.>>67813131I thought they were $20 per additional pack? Or was that just for IS?>>67815042Wolves in Exile died at Malvina Hazen's hands.My guess is unironically the Ghost Bears. They had a fanboy in second slot until recently, they have the best military and the best navy in the DA, and they've done nothing but win (or, at worst, come out of each not-win better than they went in) each time. Next would be Falcons, Wolves I think are red herrings.
>>67812694there's no situation where infantry could ever win back their pointsthe only way infantry could be useful in btech is if they were literally free and costed 0 points to deploy
>>67816990>there's no situation where infantry could ever win back their points>What is field artillery, Alex?>What are field guns, Alex?>What is a FedSuns platoon equipped with their bullshit M42, ER Support Lasers, and Damage Divisor 2 armour, Alex?
What should I do about the KS /btg/... I have 600 pledged currently. I still remember porch bux and seeing Colemans name as the head on KS page fills me with dread. Reading the comments of their previous KS has left them unfilled and people out money without product years later. I am tempted to remove all my funds now, but I so want all this new stuff after 15 years of purgatory for this fucking game.
>>67817294Isn't this stuff going to be sold on the market anyway afterward? I confus. Buy it then?
Ah shoot, someone got brave and picked a fight... with an Urbie. This won't end well.
>>67817294They are improvising everything. The urban mech plush and mini was the idea of someone in the comments. They are unable to make basic graphics for a 1.000.000$+ project, a fan needs to do it for them. Stretch goals are a joke.A preview of MW5 that was going to happen any ways because gamescon is this month and the game releases soon. Shity pdfs for everyone. A magazine that needs to be purchased. 2 single points of elementals, because fuck you 5 is too much free plastic.
>>67817328Some is KS exclusive, also if the box sets are anything to go by some of it will be hard to find or sold out everywhere. I assume the less popular faction stuff wont even go retail even if its not exclusive just because there isnt enough demand to mass produce it.
>>67817515>Have a popular product people want to buy en masse>Don't manufacture enough to handle demandCGL!It's like they don't like money, but do really like porches.
>>67817571How many people are going to want Clan Fire Mandrill merch or FRR stuff?
Gotta skate fast!
>>67817571A lot of small businesses do that anonIncreasing capacity might mean increasing capital investment which might pay for the first 2 years but then not pay for the next 3-7 years>mind, I dunno if this is true for CGL, just saying it might be
>>67817419That's a really good looking urbie, any more pics of it?
>>67817969I think I stumbled across one, but I don't know where it is. I think you'd have to search for it by color and name.Anyway... cat workshop.
Heck yeah, looks like I can get one done a night at work. Maybe more on my day off
>>67818202Pew-pews! So bright and shiny!
>>67818105>>67818202Looking good, are you using these New taint-paints?
Is there rule 34 on NEA as a hot trap?Asking for a friend.
Can someone remove the TW pdf from the mediafile? It's just the old pdf with the new cover on it.
>>67817931>increasing capital costsThey sub-contract everything, there’s no capital costs to speak of besides what they “rent” from their partners and that could be dropped as easily as saying “We can pay for you and ‘our’ porch”.
>>67819523I think the last time somebody asked this, there were no takers, and one anon went so far as to threaten to hire Inker to make one ... but if he did, I haven't seen it yet.
The Clan Invasion Kickstarter is not going to hit $2mil in three days. Bye bye free Urbies.
>>67819523You'll want to start here as a reference work; this is the best pic of NEA we have. Amazingly, even though he was sitting at the end of the Gencon feature table for 2 days, I've yet to see a clear face shot of him, even in Randall's facebook photos. I've seen clear face pics of >everyone else< who I remember was there, but not him.Beyond that, somebody did say they dug up an old pic of NEA from the cincy forum and commissioned Inker to make R34 of NEA from that, but if that pic is still up on their forum (unlikely, honestly), I can't find it. Commissioned pic to follow.
>>67820887>Commissioned pic to follow.
>>67820887Ought to turn the above into something like this oneAnd make it Jade Falcon
>>67817294It’ll be fine, because they’re not doing anything new. The current plastic boxes established their design, manufacturing, and distribution. Now they’re just doing more of it, but every step is in place.
>>67821174>CGL shilling intensifies
>>67820875The dream never dies!
>>67821229Post Urbanmechs, your own or art.
>>67821409Seriously, so many of their late goals were a bit silly. Why no Urbanmechs?
>>67821447But I can understand the beard stuff is cheaper than Urbanmechs.
>>67821499Well thats it, no more Urbies here.
>>67821447>Why no Urbanmechs?Are you not up to date?
>>67821947Instead of a beard of game for example, I can understand it Business wise but its uncool.
>>67821211No, just Kickstarter experience and industry familiarity. Whenever it’s someone’s first time making a thing, they don’t realize how many steps are involved and how much money or time it’s going to take. This KS campaign is just a company doing more of something they’ve done recently. Same designers, same suppliers - the process already exists. The costs are understood. The Robotech guys weren’t familiar with the limitations of plastic injection molding when they promised to make super-detailed minis. That bit them in the ass. Troublemaker Games tried to get into the Epic 40,000 proxy mini business with plastics and metals. The metals worked out because they had done it before. The plastic sprues were a disaster and it sank the company. They couldn’t find anyone in the UK who could make them for what anyone was willing to pay, so they went to China looking for small-time casters, found one that sat on the project for a couple of years, and the resulting minis were too fragile to use. They sold to Vanguard Minis, who incidentally is a good source for 6mm infantry (albeit 40k-styled).CGL went through all that crap when they took an extra year to bring out the current plastic boxes. If you want me to say something negative, I think PVC plastic takes too much effort to clean up and I’d rather buy IWM’s minis based on these designs, whenever they come out.
>>67821982It’s only $125k after the beard-off, which I agree is pointless and I’ve been completely disregarding.
>>67822142Thank you for the detailed answer. I hope it will work better than the Last one, they have more experience now.. Right?
>>67822142My problem is more that CGL has demonstrated incompetence with the shit they <are> familiar with, and they've now done multiple KS. All of which have been overambitious, slow to deliver, and ill-planned. This one has every possible red flag - previous failures, hilarious overconfidence, lots of last-second stretch goals, delayed updates after goals get passed, and a known embezzler at the helm. Fucking pass. If it doesn't take down CGL, cool, I'll take the 20-30% hit on retail pricing. But no way in HELL am I putting money into a quantum Urbie.
Apparently, the Dick Falcons are the most popular faction in the BTG according to the strawpoll in this thread.>On falcon wings, I guess. https://youtu.be/fwYL_gEKK0s
Damn clans invading with their Mad Cats when we're trying to pew-pew each other.
>>67822557>"We are Jade Falcon, great among the Clans - we are warriors who fight with the strength of the Falcon's claws, and ascend to the heavens on the wings of the same."
>>67822487What happened in their other KS campaigns? Same people involved?
>>67822620Bredddy boetic :DDDDJokes aside, that intro is pretty cool.
my friends and i are thinking of getting back into battletech. i'm trying to set up a simple game so we can refresh ourselves on the system, but a lot of the scenarios seem to involve way too many minis for this - i'd be looking at no more than a lance or star per side.any ideas? or is there any premades i could use?
>>67822871The scenarios in the rule booklet in the new box set are designed to teach the game.
Where has Catalyst gotten its rabid fanboys from? Im curious because they have a goddamn defense force of trolls on the KS page to rush to their defense no matter how legit questions people ask are. They then derail the topic by attacking the person with questions. Are they actually really good at customer support or something Im not aware of, what causes this fanboy level?
>>67822905we don't really teaching, i've played this a fair amount of times, but that was years ago.
>>67822944Their customer support is alright… slow as hell, but they eventually come through. It’s not enough to explain the fanboyism. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan, but that is some crazy shit.
>>67822944Those are called PR people, anon.
>>67822952Maybe Look at some Youtube stuff for inspiration then?
>>67823146How hell would they even have money for PR people, they cant even pay a graphics designer for KS and instead rely on a fan made graphic.
>>67823155it's more just trying to get balanced teams for this, is what i'm struggling with. i tried balancing stuff with BV, but i'd rather not have too many complicated items for the first few games.
>>67822952Man, just grab a couple equal BV2 forces of similar eras and types and go at it.Classic 5K 3025 Grogtech lance'ish match should do you good.
>>67823214>>67823259right, just ripped the mechs from the command and battle lances. does this seem balanced? there's about a 200 difference in BV
>>67823178They timeshare the porch on different weekends as payment.
>>67822944I don't think it's CGL fanboys as much as it is people who don't want to think negatively / really want this to work out because if it does then they get stuff they want and if it doesn't then they're out a lot of money. It's more a general phenomenon you see on any big project.
>>67823428Dick around with pilot scores on the bugs to bring them more in line. Top has a better shot at winning since they don't run quite as hot and have slightly better range and armor. Otherwise should be a fun match mostly decided by dice and tactics.
>>67823497This. >Urbiehorde please.
>>67823558i've put the phoenixhawk pilot to a 4/4, and this has moved the BV difference to being only 3 points.Seem ok to go with that?
>>67822557>btg likes green turkeys>btg>the bastion of anti-furfaggotry>wutWhat ever made you think so?
>>67823758The aforementioned strawpoll having most Falcons.
>>67823758Eat Thor, bitch.
>>67823875>Eat ThorDid you want to super-size that?
>>67823875>not SummonerWhat a disgrace to Turkina.>>67823851Where?
If a Smoke Jaguar somebody fell in love with a Jade Falcon somebody and had spermlets, would that freebirth be known as a Jag Falcon?
>>67823497Hmm this seems most likely to be it, denial can be a powerful tool.
>>67824212Guess what my faction of choice is.
>>67824492Oh I didnt see that, sorry6 out of 24 isn't greatly indicative, but if anybody likes Clans its probably THE Clan that gets most attention>speaking as a Bearfag, even I acknowledge they're tainted by protag/author fiat
>>67824492That's just asking who people chose, not their favorite. I mean, Comstar is my favorite, but I already have all the old Reaper pins/keychains from the 90's and loaded up on faction dice during the 2017 CGL store christmas sale where they were like $1.50 apiece.Think I'm gonna go Drac for this one.But Falcons as the clannest clan in a clan kickstarter getting the most picks makes sense to me.
>>67824300Smoke Falcon/Jade Jaguar sound better.
>>67824685Arent Jags or Steel Vipers clannier? Well, Falcons have more screen time.I went for Blood Spirits for my faction shenanigans, but planned to get Hells Horses and Steel Viper dice as well. Poor Spirits sadly are mostly good for being sad about. I plan on building my Stars as Hells Horses.
>>67824575Well, wolves are to spheroid. Ward and his bros changed it back to late, so the clannier eternal second fiddle antagonist fits the Bill.
>>67824816They're both extremes on the sliding scale of straight Clanliness; Jags on the stupidly Clanlike end; Vipers on the opportunistically Clanlike* endBut the definitive Clan has always been Thurston's Falcons>*Although in the end the Vipers devolved into being stupidly Clanlike anyway, to their eventual doom
>>67824844Even Vlad's Wolves are pretty dezgra by Clan standard, but more importantly they're boring
>>67801710>FFS there's that much more? Can we have a rough kraut take over the company with WWII german efficiency or something?You really don't want that, unless you want your games and books coming with shit ton of variant covers with each having different set of rules inside of them. And the game editors that can pay the most bribes get the biggest push no matter what is actually selling.
>>67824961I assume that is an author? I havent read any BT books beyond rules,being a new player. Could you recommend some of his work to me you think illustrates this definitive clanliness? Would be thankfull.
>>67824816>Arent Jags or Steel Vipers clannier?No. They're more lawful stupid. Falcons are THE stereotype. They are every main thing you imagine about the clans and the latitude to lean into any of them in any era. Thoughtless aggression and hard traditionalism? Canny politics and soft honor? They do both instead of one. They hate Freebirths but use them anyway and acknowledge their prowess. They apply their strict caste system on every world. They still go full furry dress uniform when most everyone else has abandoned them. They hoard loads of dueling relics yet build munchtech monsters in response to shifting wars. Even in the DA, they lean into combined arms hard enough to win tank battles with the Hell's Horses.They are everything clan. Each of the others holds merely pieces of the Falcon.
>>67824961>>67825056Ps: To me Jags were all about Clan agressiveness and the Vipers seemed to me to be really fanatic about Clan honour traditions. Are Falcons then the best admixture?
>>67824987How so? Are they to Standard clan? And I assume them Camping in the IS and some genetic tampering would be disgracefull?
Am I reading it right that these guys can potentially do 24 damage to a mech? It seems kind of weird that infantry can do that much damage.
>>67825087>Win tank battle against the Hells Horses.I have no mouth yet I must Reeee. I understand it should happen, but I fear for the Horsies now. Thank you for the explanation. It helps that allmost all other traditional ist clans got the boot and the home worlds are just shut off.
>>67825158Mauser IICs are one hell of a drug, anon.
>>67825126Not him but they're boring because they don't do jack shit after the Refusal War until the Jihad. One of the main problems with the OZ's in general IRL is there's really nothing but shit-tier Kerensky Cluster tier raiding going on and not real wars for most of their existence except at the IS borders. And the Wolves are sandwiched right in the middle with no IS borders. The authors of course realized this almost twenty years ago, but their DA solution to the problem was absolutely retarded.
>>67825158Look up Tau-Zombies.
>>67825185I mean, the Khan of Jade Falcon even had a whole Galaxy of Hell's Horses under her command (over a full tenth of their Touman), and killed their commander and absorbed them when he tried to leave crazytown. Then later orbitally bombarded them to dust for not leaving the area where she was trying to kill Wolves.
>>67824816Jags And Steel Viper were so Clanly they had to fight about it. Good thing the Jags were wiped out when they were, Osis was approaching final boss levels.>elemental ilkhan
>>67822723Spurdo gargoyleOK, now i NEED a Gondola jenner
>>67825433He was the Senator Armstrong of Battletech and will be missed.
>>67825435I agree, sadly I am no artist. >>67825433They fought about it? I did not know that.
>>67825435so is the Jenner good in TT? I had fun with it in the HBS battletech game but I wonder if it's jumps behind you and alpha strikes anttics survive the transition.
>>67825496It has one of the best classic minis, so yes it is good in tabletop.
>>67825496hot for a light mech but hits hard
>>67825496I've had tons of fun with Jenners and their backstabby ways. Currently running one with an LRM-5 in place of the SRM. It's done okay but I'm thinking of just yanking all the weapons and slapping a Large Laser on it for pinpoint shanking.
>>67825126As other anon said, they didn't do anything to stand out from not-Phelan Wolves from the end of the Refusal WarTheir single most noteworthy exploit is depicted on the cover of Wars of Reaving; snatching the Kerensky giftake from Strana Mechty and blowing up the chapel. But besides that, they're like, reduced to pre-WOR Coyote tier>>67825056Yeah, Robert Thurston's Jade Phoenix trilogy. It's Clan 101, in all its glory and stupidity, and it cements the Falcons as the definition of Clan.>>67825088What other anon said is right. If one measures the Clans by smarts/stupidity and adherence to doctrine, then Jags are stupid lawful while Vipers are smart chaoticJags took the Clan way to its ultimate tyrannical conclusion in treatment of both their own people and the conquered OZ. Vipers pretended to follow the letter but only insofar as to further their own ends. For both of them, it came back to bite them in the ass.
>>67825821Wow, thank you. Also I did not know they blew up the Kerensky Blood Chapel. That is a dick move. Sheesh. Will go for the trilogy then, thank you.
>>67826066https://youtu.be/KTc3PsW5ghQAh, superior clan-tech.
>>67822944>Are they actually really good at customer supportHahaha, fuck no. Their customer support is atrocious. Back in the day I got the Blake Documents, along with the ISP and previous Jihad SB, in hardcopy.They "delivered," electronically, TR 3025 R, Sword and Dragon, and the CBT RPG. It took six god damn weeks of badgering their customer service e-mail address, followed by Randall directly, to unfuck the situation.Or so I thought. Turns out, they then didn't actually send me the books, which I realised about six months later. Cue eight weeks of badgering to get them to send the books, which arrived twelve weeks after that because they use the shittiest fulfillment possible and/or have lazy bastards manning distribution.My story's not even unique. For a long time there the OF had an active thread of "my order is late/fucked, what do I do?" where the official answer was "dude, the warehouse is staffed by part-time volunteers, we're legit working as hard as possible here, what did you expect, actual professionalism? If you're having issues, e-mail Randall direct because nobody else can help.">>67825876>That is a dick move.It was the first thing of note they'd done in almost 20 IRL years and almost the same IC other than get their ass beat by Falcons, Bears, Horses, or the IS.Kerensky's body is interred on the McKenna's Pride, and the Wolves took all the genetic information with them. All they did was blow up a building that only they were allowed into any way.
>>67826104https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TStPNqex3uAclanner autism is a serious concern.
>>67826143Huh, ok. I was a bit flabbergasted.
>>67826241>>67826241NEW THREADNEW THREAD
>>67826186Ps: still dont think the other Clanners would like it.