Nurgle vs Sylvaneth Edition Old:>>67193706>Official AoS websiteageofsigmar.com/>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/>Resourcespastebin.com/UVKnsh7d (embed) (embed) (embed)>AoS Novels, Battletome PDF and Audiobooksmega.nz/#F!G4k2QIRT!KAItCj7ReqYAJMuH5XXpmQ>Toolswarhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/ repl.it/repls/FrivolousBelovedEmperorpenguinnofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psdThread Question:Which Chaos realm corresponds to Slaanesh most? Metal for Tzeentch, Fire for Khorne and Life for Nurgle.
i unironically love the old aos maps
>>67202982Slaanesh book says light and/or shadow
>>67202982Chaos Realm? Anyway, it's Hysh. GW said so.
>>67202982Got my drycha and some starting sylvaneth.Should I buy that ridiculous floating tree?
>>67202793 #If they are keeping half the gods at least tell us if the other half are still around. I want to know if the dwarves still have theirs outside of Grugni and Grimnir and of humans have something else other than Sigmar.
>>67202982some time in the up and coming events of the near future
Friendly reminder that these are the objectively correct armies that GW should aim for Order>Stormcast Eternals>Freeguild soup (old Empire)>Dwarf soup>Pureborn (Elf soup besides Wanderers, DoK and IDK)>Scorned Ones (DoK and IDK soup)>Wild Folk (Old wood elf soup)>SeraphonChaos>Khorne>Slaanesh>Nurgle>Tzeentch>Warriors of Chaos>Beasts of Chaos>SkavenDestruction>Orcs>Gloomspite Gitz>OgresDeath>Legions of Nagash (except just Deathlords, Deathrattle, and Deathmages)>Lords of Blood (Soulblight + Deadwalkers)>Flesh Eater Courts>Nighthaunt
>>67203056Gazul exists but was killed and devoured by Nagash.Valaya has been mentioned, but not by name, through it seems like she is dead too.Hashut is also sometimes there.The other minor dwarf gods are a no show so far.For a list of gods alive in AoS see.https://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Template:Mortal_Realms_Deities
I'm going to post this here again:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621774283/fantasy-wargames-terrain-from-battle-systemstm/description?fbclid=IwAR0ybNLXvgWBBpE5l_kygNAXiRfnL7rwBRXtdM--dA1y9ILVHmqeDFa3wAULooks cool. Hardback cardboard, durable.But would it be good enough for the people of aosg?
>>67203056That would be too confusing for the kids, depth in a setting is bad
>>67203141Last month's WD.
>>67203132If i had the space i would be interested.
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>>67203056Valaya died in the end times by the hand of nagash
>>67203056there are various informations dispersed all over the black library books, for example in one there were dwarfs worshipping their own old god of the dead despite knowing full well he was devoured by nagashdeath means little to gods as long as there are worshippers, take for example morr, the human god of the dead, he was eaten by nagash both during the end times and then a second time in the age of sigmar, and still it isn't gone: sometimes nagash either consciously or unconsciously appears in his aspect of nagash-morr to cover the role that once morr did.plenty of other gods too reappeared or would have reappeared, even khaine would have returned wasn't it for morsthi sapping away all prayers and power to him by acquiring his heartThe situation is crap and GW doesn't want to release its worldbuilding so far under a properly accessible mediumthe keyword for many answers anyway seems to be the following: just do whatever as long as it doesn't interfere too much with the rest
>>67203228Seriously though what is the point of Ogres when Ironjawz exist? They fulfill the exact niche that Ogres used to fulfill back in fantasy of the fairly elite low model count army with very few special rules.
>>67203115friendly reminder that all the factions are already determined on ageofsigmar.com and nobody cares about your headcanon
>>67203273Except we know we're getting a new Death Tome this year.
>>67203273Reminder that if your faction isn't there then it would be souped or squatted some day.
>>67203259You want a hungry elite low model count army?
>>67203228>>67203259Let's try that again with the better photo>How about a brute sad that 'ardboyz are a better unit than they are>Maybe with a 'ardboy consoling him
>>67203298obviously im talking about the existing armieswhy would brand new unreleased armies be on the website?
>>67203313Can you draw me a ghost, but with 'UGE tits.
>>67203313brutes and goregruntas having bad rules is one of the biggest tragedies of AOS 2.0hopefully they get proper rules reflecting their fluff in the new ironjawz book
>>67203320Yeah except the new Tome's probably going to be Soulblight
>>67203115not so fast>>Order>Stormcast Eternals>Freeguild and human ironweld>expanded devoted to sigmar>Dispossessed>fyreslayers>kharadron overlords>Seraphon>>Chaos>Khorne>Slaanesh>Nurgle>Tzeentch>slaves and everchosen>Beasts of Chaos>Skaven>Destruction>expanded ironjaws>bonesplitters>Gloomspite Gitz>Ogres>expanded giants>>Death>expanded deathrattle plus deathlords>vampires knights >Flesh Eater Courts>Nighthaunt>expanded deadwalkers>>grand alliance elfses>azyrite elf soup>idoneth deepkin>light elves>shadow elves>daughters of khaine>sylvaneth plus wanderers
>>67203115While some things like you souping Daughters of Khaine and Deepkin for some fucking reason is retarded, this list is way more likely than the fags who seriously believe we're going to get a Darkling Covens tome.
>>67203354>probably going to be Soulblightmore delusional than a ghoul king
>>67203305>BCR stay unsouped>Scourge Privateers suatted or soupedWhy? I mean is this a fucking joke?
>>67203335Any particular ghost unit? >>67203336Orks really can't catch a break from GW
>>67203391What else would it be for Death then?
>>67203424Since you asked I have to take it further.Kurdoss.
How can we save Destruction bros? Only Ogres Gobbos and Orcs even if you make diverse factions out of them is a shit for a GA.Should we expand giants? Bring Tyranids? Other thing?
>>67203362>Expanded Devoted of SigmarThis man is right and you cant deny it.
>>67203420>BCR can't be their own army they'll definitely be souped with Ogres>But Scourge Privateers don't make sense to be souped they'll definitely have their own battletome
>>67203452I was going to say a full Fimir army but a Giant army as the replacement for BCR when they get souped could be dope.
>>67203474Fimir, with Digganob-esque human followers of them (as they had in old school WHF).
>>67203442I was gonna do a Chainsghast for maximum swinging titties but I like this better
>>67203452>>67203481Okay let's think Giant army, what heroes would we have? I think some kind of thing where they basically become Lords of War in that, when in a Giant army, they become counted as both Heroes and Behemoths, with the cap removed for both (no max Heroes or Behemoths). A cool unit could be a Sky Titan as their wizard.
>>67203452Tyranids would be a cool option. Or a new god because the whole "Hurr all is an aspect of GorkaMorka" is fucking retarded
>>67203467>>67203420Honestly I expect most of the dark elf stuff to be squatted in favour of shadow aelves, ogres will be souped and updated.
>>67203452giants and a second goblinoid army, worshippers of the evil sun with all manner of snotlings, mobile war-engines (not the high tech kind) and loads of chariots
>>67203526Why not both you glorious bastard?
>>67203217>shithammer underturds gets a kiddie version.>B-but it's a deep game!AH HA HA HA! OH NO NO NO!
>>67203526Can we get Slambo and Harry the hammer being bros?Something like pic related
>>67203540>Giant army>normal old giant>forge-world bonegrinder giant>two headed shamanistic giant>lightly armoured giant king, with crown, jewelry, and armed with greatsword>armoured knight giant with option for rocks-launching crossbow/fling, tower shield and prosthetic arm, or two handed flail>endless spells are druidic stone line, face in a cloud blowing wind, and a pillar of vines (allowing giants to enter the battle right in the middle)>scenery is an archaic small windmill on a floating island
>>67203115Other than souping dark and high elves together and DoK and IDK, I fully agree. It's a pretty solid base they can add on top of, mainly in destruction and death.
>>67203273That is a placeholder and must be treated as such. Don't be retarded.
>>67203313I'd love to request a sad chaos warrior. Or one surfing on his shield. Either is fine.
>>67203831>Don't be retarded.A tall order considering where we are.
>>67203051Tree is meh.Hive is the shit
>>67203435He must be one of the retards that thinks deathrattle or deadwalkers will get a tome outside of LoN when they make up the core of LoN.
>>67203115Reminder that grogs need to fuck off and die in /whfb/>>
>>67203132Fuck off shill
I what a story about a former Maneaters who becomes Free Peoples champion.
>>67203642Don't worry it's too good of an idea to not pursue>>67203656What would Kurdoss's attendants say about a suddenly big tiddy Kurdoss?>>67203766Sure thing, I got some ideas that could work for that>>67203847Sad chaos warrior surfing on his shield, got it
>>67203802What about thicc mommy giant gf
>>67203831>That is a placeholdernope
Well. That answers that.
>>67203115Revised one to not be stupidOrder>Stormcast Eternals>Freeguild>Khazalid Empire>Kharadron Overlords>Fyreslayers>Highborn>Exiles>Wanderers (should have included Sylvaneth desu)>Sylvaneth>Idoneth Deepkin>Daughters of Khaine>SeraphonChaos>Khorne>Slaanesh>Nurgle>Tzeentch>Warriors of Chaos>Beasts of Chaos>SkavenDestruction>Orcs and Goblins>Gloomspite Gitz>Ogres>Giants>FimirDeath>Legions of Nagash (without the Nighthaunt units and with only vampire lords from Soulblight)>Lords of Blood (Soulblight + Deadwalkers)>Flesh Eater Courts>Nighthaunt
>>67203766>>67203908I'm a dumbass, pretend archaon is slambo in that paint image
>>67203908Surely flatchest Kurdoss being made fun of by large-titted attendants would be more appropriate
>>67203920Creatures of Chaos and Grots are totally real factions and not placeholders.
>>67203889Fuck off pedophile.
>>67203908>What would Kurdoss's attendants say about a suddenly big tiddy Kurdoss?They'd say he the un-king wasn't fit to be a queen either.That being said >>67203952 raises a VERY good point.
>>67203910Sure. Let her carry a giant shield that lets her take wounds and mortal wounds from nearby giants or a massive flag that buffs them, kinda like a giant version of Jeanne D'Arc.
>>67203957read the descriptions you mongoloid
>>67203957Anon, the factions within them was correct. Just because they didn't finalize the name until later doesn't change that the factions were right.
>>67203115>Order>Stormcast Eternals>Freeguild soup (old Empire)>Dwarf soup>Pureborn (Elf soup besides Wanderers, DoK and IDK)>Scorned Ones (DoK and IDK soup)>Wild Folk (Old wood elf soup)>SeraphonWhat about Order Ogres?
>>67203952Now I want a comic about a flat chested myrmourn being mocked by it in one panel and being conforted by a bladegheist in the other.
>>67203959> REEEEEE HOW DARE HE STOP MY SHILLINGFuck. OFF. SHILL.
I haven't followed Fantasy since 6th, are these maps that I see now and then in the OP real official art, not ironic shit posts?
>>67203985>>67203988That's what is called a placeholder you retards.
>Gobbapalooza down to 200 with the new FAQ.Are they worth to have in a list now? The models are very well made.
>>67204011Yeah but they are from 2015 and they've drastically changed styles since then. People post them to shitpost.
>>67204011They were official art in the first edition of AoS, which sucked massive balls. Nowadays those have been retconned and replaced by actual maps.
>>67203941You keep forgetting the forge world stuff
>>67203313OR here, good shit;_;
>>67203994We already have tow ogre factions. You even want more? We are still with only one Skaven faction and 0,5 human factions.
Warcry release when?
>>67203952>>67203981>Flat chested kurdoss mocked by attendants>kurdoss now with big tiddies to stop being mocked >STILL mocked by attendants and visibly angry>>67203997I'll add it to the list!So everyone knows, these will all be completed when I can so it may be a few days before requests get filled and you can request even when i'm not here by mentioning GrotScribe so I can ctrl-f it, otherwise your request might be missed.I know I shouldn't have to say that but I've had some real bad spergs in the past
>>67204088Other than chaos dwarves, what factions does FW have? IMO the monsters should just be assigned to their corresponding armies or be made allies or something. Right now they are mostly GA exclusive.
>>67204139Stormcast is a human faction, pleb.
>>67204149No they're not. Do you think space marines are human?
>>67203132This actually looks really nice. I prefer resin terrain since it's more durable but this is far cheaper. I'll keep an eye on it.
>>67203994Adding the basic ogre unit to both freeguild and WoC is more than enough. They don't need their own armies in those allegiances.
>>67204139When I mean is some Ogres units in a Order Battletome.The Empire of man did have some Ogres in it , especially in the small people home.
>>67204173>Human keyword>Not humanPick one.
>>67204145How about you fuck off and die.Your drawings suck dick and your a namefag to boot.
Any tips for Nurgle daemon skin for Nurglings, GUO and Plaguebearers etc? Want it to be different from Death Guard green I reckon.
>>67204213>When I mean is some Ogres units in a Order Battletome.So did they do it yet?
>>67204193>Adding the basic ogre unit to both freeguild and WoC is more than enoughSo did they do it yet?
>>67204232That's Nurgle though.
>>67204282No, neither of those tomes are out.>>67203132Okay so will this cost 75 pounds when they start selling it or only during the kickstarter?
>>67204290I wish they'd roll Legion of Azgorh into slaves to darkness in their update, that way they can have their own detachments and all that and you could have some neat army building. As well as an official book from GW that has them
I bought a goreblade warband start collecting, how much of a waste of money was it?
>>67204323I'd rather get them separate, to be honest. The StD tome should already contain StD, Everchosen, chaos giants, dragon ogres, the undivided daemons and the chaos monsters. That's more than enough for an army. LoA's rules are quite good already, they just need FW to release a book containing them and with their lore. GW doesn't really include FW units in their tomes nor makes tomes for FW factions.
>>67204176I'm considering jumping on it for TTRPG purposes but it could be nice to have if I manage to convince some friends to pick up this plastic crack addiction.
>>67204360>LoA's rules are quite good already, they just need FW to release a book containing them and with their lore. God I wish
>>67204173Yes you fucking retard.
>>67204307>Okay so will this cost 75 pounds when they start selling it or only during the kickstarter?No clue. I'm not associated with these people so I don't have insider information, but I believe kickstarter people get all the shit listed further down in addition to the base set getting sold after the kickstarter.Roads, graveyards, rivers, ponds, a bridge, 2 ruins and a shitload of fences both wooden and iron. The base set for the village looked reaaaally comfy for a TTRPG.
>>67203857every endless spell that can't hurt your own army is inherently good
>>67203811>>67203941GW are going to soup Elves, this is just a fact, it boggles my mind that this of all things is still disputed more than Orc soup and Ogre soup that there is no evidence for.
>>67204424The problem I have with this bundles is that, while they come with lots of shit, the houses are all over the place. Either there's too few or too many but of wildly different types. In that one there's a regular house, an inn and a lake house. I'm gonna need more regular houses but I don't want any more of the others and buying them on their own is a lot, lot more expensive for a fucking cardboard house.
>>67204482Elf soup makes absolutely no sense no matter how you look at it. Not from a lore perspective. Not from a gameplay perspective. Not from an aesthetic perspective. Nothing. Only you faggots are the only ones that even consider the idea.
>>67203567They've kinda been doing away with that stuff with the Gloomspite Gitz, with the most likely explanation for the Bad Moon (being the spirit of all the dead Goblin shamans) has nothing really to do with Gorkamorka. I think we'll see which way GW decide to go one way or the other in the Ogre tome (whether that's Gutbusters or soup) that's likely coming out in the summer, whether they'll have the Great Maw or keep "Gorkamorka the Great Devourer".
>>67204491I personally don't feel the need for more regular houses, seeing as I doubt the board will be or feel empty. My concern is how the Village bundle would fare with AoS or if the Battlefield would be better for that.Your insight is appreciated though.
>>67204491This is the picture of the Village set on a 4' x 6' table.
>>67204482What exactly do you mean by Elf soup though? As in ALL Aelves are going to be together? Or it's going to be Dark Elves and High Elves again? What?
>>67204337You'll need all of that except the lord if you want a mortal army.
>>67204482Elf soup reminds me of a specialty of Cousin Okri...
>>67204505>Lore perspective All Elf gods besides Morathi (which no-one's really suggesting DoK and IDK are included) are working effectively as one faction in the lore, they're completely allied with one another. >AestheticallyMost of the obvious differences come down to paint jobs, even then they don't vary any more than the sub-factions within, say, Gloomspite Gitz or Legions of Nagash.
>>67204337It's a really good starting point for khorne mortals. The bloodsecrator, bloodstoker and blood warriors are useful for basically all lists. The bloodreavers come with the shitty weapon loadout but you can use them as chaff anyways. Khorgorath is whatever, you can use him to fill your lists but nothing special. Mighty lord is alright, just a killy leader/general.
>>67204524It's mainly my own autism. A town with just a regular house, an inn and a lakehouse doesn't sit right with me. I'd rather have two or three regular houses and then the inn or lakehouse. That's why I like the Urbanmatz bungle a lot, since it comes with five regular houses with slightly different designs, a blacksmith and a bridge. It's resin though, so it's a lot more expensive and doesn't come with fences or other scatter terrain.
>>67204491They mention that all the buildings are modular and thus can be combined or have parts shifted around at a whim.Would be neat to make a fuckhuge wizard's tower made out of ALL the buildings in the center of the map.
>>67204571All the non-DoK and IDK Elves, as it is on the GW store page and ageofsigmar.com basically.
>>67204588Would you care to link it?
>>67204588Also, is 50 for a 6' x 4' mat expensive or fairly priced? I have literally no idea.
>>67204584>All Elf gods besides Morathi (which no-one's really suggesting DoK and IDK are included) are working effectively as one faction in the lore, they're completely allied with one another.Bullshit. Malerion only works with Tyrion and Teclis by keeping Slaanesh imprisioned together. Nothing else. And that still leaves a myriad of elf factions that have nothing to do with them like all the azyrite elves, the remanants of the dark elves and wanderers.>Most of the obvious differences come down to paint jobs, even then they don't vary any more than the sub-factions within, say, Gloomspite Gitz or Legions of Nagash.Fuck no. Wanderers look nothing like dark elves and high elves don't fit with either. and there's still a massive fuck ton of overlap in their units. You'll creat an "army" with no defining playstyle, aesthetic, lore or theme other than "lol they are elves".
>>67204607https://www.urbanmatz.com/p/290/medieval-houses-and-bridge-set>>67204646Depends on the material.>>67204590That's neat, but again, would require to buy several extra pieces and that adds up. I'd just rather buy the bundle and play with that.
>>67204671>That's neat, but again, would require to buy several extra pieces and that adds up.No I meant to just mash all the buildings in the bundle into 1 mega-structure. Batshit wizardry.Do you have a mat and what did you pay for it if you have?
>>67204740>No I meant to just mash all the buildings in the bundle into 1 mega-structure. Batshit wizardry.While that would be cool, you'd use up the bundle for just one building and you'd still need more to fill the board, that's why I said you'd need extra houses.>Do you have a mat and what did you pay for it if you have?I still don't have mats or terrain of my own since I just have one army and none of my friends want to pay a single cent but once GW releases the StD tome I'll be able to use that one again and I plan to make a table. The ones I've seen used the most are the gamemat.eu ones, so I plan on buying one of those for starters. They are 70€.https://www.gamemat.eu/en/battle-mats/6-x4-battle-mats/FAT mats are also good.http://www.tablewar.com/6x4-cobbletown-f-a-t-mat-gaming-mat/They cost pretty much the same.
>>67204654dark elves and high elves are all Azyrite elves. I can easily see them working the same way Gloomspite works, with troggs, spiderfang and night goblins being souped, but theoretically able to run separately,Wanderers are the odd ones, seeing as they do have completely different theme and aesthetic to the civilize elves.
>>67204740>>67204810Different anon here, I'm currently scratchbuilding some terrain for a table of my own, I just went and bought myself a grassy mat used for train modelling from a local toy store, which cost me only 25 euros. Just as a comparison.
>>67204831>dark elves and high elves are all Azyrite elves. I can easily see them working the same way Gloomspite works, with troggs, spiderfang and night goblins being souped, but theoretically able to run separatelyPlease tell me what's the logic behind making an army made out of automatons controlled by a sorceress to protect her coven would work together with an order of draconian knights to the point of being the same army?
>>67204855Do you have any pic of it?
>>67204890something something new fluff for elven commonwealth something something
I’m almost halfway through the Neferata book in Rulers of the Dead and it’s surprisingly really good. What are some other good AOS books that preferably aren’t about stormcasts that help expand the realms and describe what life is actually like there? The lore sections in the core book do a pretty poor job
>>67204933something something shit idea. And that still leaves the part of being fucking awful game design since the army would be a mess of overlaping units with no cohesive playstyle. The reason why things like BoC or GSG work is because they were a single army that was split and then put back together. Elves were 3 different armies.
>>67204909Not atm, but in essence it looks like the gras mats from oldhammer fotos.
>>67204958>the army would be a mess of overlaping units with no cohesive playstyle.Isn't that what a legacy army is? They need to sweep them aside for the new shadow and light aelves, what better way than to soup them.They're all huddling together in Azyr for the most part so they can just squat old models that don't fit and make them one megafaction.
>>67204952Try these. Only one is Stormcast focused (Soul Wars), but it shows plenty of other stuff too.
>>67205001>Isn't that what a legacy army is?No.>They need to sweep them aside for the new shadow and light aelves, what better way than to soup them.That's really not true. DE could very well be part of the shadow elves with just a few new units like DoK did. The other can very well be their own armies without overlapping with the themes of the light elves, which are supposed to be angelic. Neither DE nor wanderers need much to be a functional army and HE just need a couple of units.>They're all huddling together in Azyr for the most part so they can just squat old models that don't fit and make them one megafaction.Squatting things isn't good.
>>67205017This anon knows his shit.
>>67205067Its sad to see anything get squatted, in an ideal world GW would continue to support fantasy with new books and updates while also releasing AoS but lets be real, GW is going to something with all these old factions.
>>67205096At least we sort of got new Fantasy books from CA releasing several off of TWW.
>>67205096Anon there's no reason to squat them when with little work you can have several armies at almost no cost for GW without hurting the game. An aelf soup tome isn't beneficial to anyone and, as I said, it would be a fucking mess that would ruin any potential those factions have. I'm all for souping to fix the stupid faction splits they did at the start of AoS but do it sensibly like they've been doing until now.
>>67204173we're reaching new levels of lorelet today
>>67204855>>67204909I use model railway grass because my table is realm of life. Here is a pic.
>>67205123I like the TTW timeline.>Tzeentch sabotages the endtimes for giggles>Skaven turn on the rest of chaos and try to take the vortex for their own
>>67205133any support given to old elves to attract players to play elves is playerbase lost for the new elven armieshigh dark and wood elves need to die for sylvaneth, light and shadow aelves to be successful products
>>67205259>dragon knight elves, legolas elves and edgy bdsm elves are stealing audience from angelic elves and shadow dragon elves because they are all elves and nothing else matters. Not their designs, not their playstyle, not their lore and not their aesthetic. Just the fact that they have pointy ears.
>>67205133>>67205259Well, more than that it's about SKUs. Shops can literally only have so much product on the shelves which needs to be sold within an amount of time so you can't just keep releasing new stuff endlessly while infinitely supporting the old stuff.It's going to come to a point where GW needs to soup the three old elf factions together to make them more manigible or soft squat them altogether, just support them with rules but let the stock of models dry up.
>>67205249Hmmm, looks a bit plain but I guess it's serviceable.
>>67205337Anon, GW puts everything into webstore exclusive other than the new releases. Even stormcasts are half webstore exclusive at this point. That's irrelevant.
Kurdoss being bullied by big tiddy attendants
>sylvaneth didn't absorb wanderers>idoneth didn't absorb privateers and swifthawk>khainites didn't absorb shadowblades and part of darkling covens>light elves won't absorb the rest of the old high elves>shadow elves won't absorb the rest of the old dark elvesI hate this
>>67205301>loreWhat reason do they have to still be dark, wood and high elves after their reasons to split in to those factions died with the old world?Wood elves should join with Sylvaneth. High elves and dark elves should be cut up so they can be combined in to one faction.
>>67205346Yeah, fortunately you don't really notice that under two full size armies on it but this pic was taken near the end of a 1250 point game. And I need more trees.
>>67205301>Just the fact that they have pointy ears.exactly anon, people hungry for an elves army will get into one at the exclusion of the others
>>67205372Kurdoss's heckler are his brother that he killed to get the throne.
>>67204890The logic is they all are theoretically the same army as Free Guilds- armies of Azyr that joined the reconquest. They did, and do work together. And well, and elf is an elf, why shouldn't darkling witches not try to poach some Lion Rangers for their coven? Not like there's any big cultural rift like between dark elves and high elves in the dead world.
>>67205259That's fucking retarded logic.
>>67205372What a legend!
>>67205442and yet that's how it works
>>67205375>What reason do they have to still be dark, wood and high elves after their reasons to split in to those factions died with the old world?None, but using their AoS lore is easy as hell to combine back HE and DE to their old armies. Combining things that look wildly different and that weren't designed to be played together in the game is just gonna be a mess.>Wood elves should join with Sylvaneth.I agree, but it didn't happen and I doubt it will happen.> High elves and dark elves should be cut up so they can be combined in to one faction.No. DE microfactions should be put back together into Exiles. Just say that the other microfactions are working for the sorceresses and it would work. For the HE microfactions, they all worship some kind of animal. They just need to make them work like Eldar Aspect warriors and release a few kits to blend them together and make them into a functional army, call it Highborn, since they squatted the basic HE units like the spearmen and archers. That requires zero work in the case of DE and minimal work in the case of HE and it's a much, much better solution than squatting them or souping them all together.
>>67204958>mess of overlaping units with no cohesive playstyleWould it? Darklings provide the cheap infantry core in form of spear/crossbows, order draconis can provide the dragon riders, order serpentis has the cool drake cavalry, and skirmishers are from the reavers, while swordmasters and lion rangers provide elite infantry. You'd have to cut some old models like the godawful dragon prince cavalry.
>>67205465So did that StD Box lower the sales of Khorne/Slaanesh/Nurgle/Tzeentch/Beasts of Chaos?
>>67205374>damp undersea elves absorbing flying postman pat elves
>>67204890Because even (a)egirl and her elven incel orbitters are still kin and leagues above sub-aelven filfth.
>>67205427And that's why they are all in the Order GA. Souping all elves because they are elves is as retarded as souping all humans and dwarves just because they live in the cities.>And well, and elf is an elf, why shouldn't darkling witches not try to poach some Lion Rangers for their coven?They'd stop being lion rangers and would become a mindless automaton like the rest of Darkling Covens?> Not like there's any big cultural rift like between dark elves and high elves in the dead world.But there is. Their lore is barely two paragraphs long and it's the only thing it covers.
>>67205442>>67205465It isn't even logic, it is just one anon's opinion. I'd make a snide remark about how autists does not comprehend the difference between opinions and facts but considering where we are it would be a moot point.
>>67205507they're still sea themed elves
>>67205484You'd have several basic spearmen/swordsmen, several archers/crossbowmen, a metric fuck ton of elite infantry, several light cavalry, several chariots, several heavy infantry, several heroes, several mages... and all that with minimal difference between them. You are gluing three armies worth of units into one.>You'd have to cut some old models like the godawful dragon prince cavalry.Squatting things to make a frankenstein army with no coherent lore, theme or aesthetic isn't a good idea.
Any tips on building a meeting engagement list for Khorne?
>>67205556Nautical inspired elves aren't the same as atlantean deep sea inspired elves just because both have relation with extensive masses of water.
>>67202982>Browling Glouds of FUG XDDDD
>>67202982>The oak of ages past>Its capital is the oak of ages pastMakes ya think.
>>67205697It's not a capital.
>>67204586i already have demons to no end. i thought about a bloodsecrator + tyrants of blood and slaughter born.
>>67205711The oak of ages past
Which is the most unique army in terms of playstyle? Just sold off a bunch of boardgames and old soccer jerseys I had under my bed and want a new hobby to kill some time between shifts.Aesthetic and fluff/lore is important to me, but if something is so brain-dead easy to play it'll bore me fast.From what I've read so far, everything's getting a terrain piece, some specific spells that go on the board and to me that means every faction will basically become the same or have the same strategy by the end of it. Summon terrain piece and use spells on board to buff your guys or kill opponents.I'm hoping that there's an army/faction out there that plays totally different to the others or at least can play differently every game if possible.I'm also hoping this exists in the new fantasy setting and that I don't have to go play 40k as I'd rather not go down that rabbit hole.Sorry to bug ya, if there's a link to a site you can point me to that'll answer my questions I'd really appreciate it and I'm going to do some more research in the meantime.
>>67205857The terrain and spells aren't THAT good, Anon.
>>67205857KO don't have any magic and are (supposed) to be shooting focused when the rest of the game is melee and magic focused.But they suck so
>>67202982Darkling Covens when?
>>67205857Play NH.Tactical drop sub-par units wherever you need them when you need them. Also the only grand allegiance with reanimation of dead units.Or play Seraphon and turn the game into Command and Conquer turn-based strategy game where the entire game is you summoning things to stop the opponent's plan as you don't have to choose your army before round 2-3 into the actual game itself. (Costs a shittonne in units and are old sculpts.)
>>67205857Skaven can play differently every game because they do everything and do it well.>>67205898I really like endless spells actually, they really add to the game.
>>67203376>this list is way more likely than the fags who seriously believe we're going to get a Darkling Covens tomeI'd be more than happy with them being part of Malerion's new elves or simply elves soup, I just want them to become somewhat playable.Of the two I actually prefer soup so I can take all dark elf units since they're all kino.
>>67205979I really like the ones that doesn't care about the opponent taking them away, like the spells not affecting your faction or that can't change direction.A shame the other older faction spells didn't get that treatment.
>>67205576What several basic spearmen units? all core old HE units have been pretty much removed from the game at this point, so stuff like elyrian reavers no longer competes with any other light cavalry that might be present. The alternative is fleshing out Darklings, as about the only semi-full army, maybe by adding Serpentis cavalry in, and letting everything HE-themed to rot in the Grand Alliance tome, because if you think GW will have Teclis Elves, Tyrion Elves, Morathi Elves, Malerion Elves and Fish Elves in addition to Dark Elves and whatever can be scrapped together for new High Elves, then you're delusional.
>>67205857 I should've also mentioned that I don't really care if an army is shit or not, as long as they're fun to play and I can have a laugh. >>67205898That's good to know but still is a bit boring of Games Workshop to always go for the same "new feature" for their factions. Not really new if every faction is getting their own version(s) of the same thing(s) >>67205904So KO are flying dwarves. I really like the look of their big ironclad ship and that reminds me of building sweet Lego ships and helicopters with my dad when I was a kid, so I'm definitely interested in them. I'll find some.books on them and do some reading. Looks like there are some resources available provided in the general.>>67205976Honestly the Dino's were one that caught my eye just based on model variety and now knowing they can play like one of my favourite RTS games is sweet!NH is Nighthaunt and are the spooky ghosts right? They do have some really cool looking models to be fair but look very delicate and they might snap easily???>>67205979Skaven do look cool, especially the Frankenstein-esque abominations. I'll definitely look into them more
>>67206055>NH is Nighthaunt and are the spooky ghosts right? They do have some really cool looking models to be fair but look very delicate and they might snap easily???I've literally never had that problem outside the one dude who lost his arm when I slipped with the scalpel during assembly. I never managed to glue it back properly without it falling off again, so he is the one-armed bandit now.Olynder stands like a rock.
>Elfs fags want more than their already confirmed 5 flavours of elfsPlease be grateful with the last soup book for your kind for at least 15 and let the rest of the races have some fun you greddy fucks
>>67205664>>67205697ZA WARUDO pimples
>>67206100Oh that's good to know! Really like the look of the Black Coach and Olyner and the other banshees to be fair
>>67206100>>67206055This model is infamously used as an example as her only contact point with the base is as you can see.Never had a problem with her myself.
>>67202982Gimmie the woodpill
>>67206055>That's good to know but still is a bit boring of Games Workshop to always go for the same "new feature" for their factions. Not really new if every faction is getting their own version(s) of the same thing(s) Those terrain pieces and spells never do the same thing. They always compliment the faction's playstyle so don't worry about that. That's like saying several factions having cavalry makes them the same.>I'll find some.books on them and do some reading. Looks like there are some resources available provided in the general.I hear the Overlords of the Iron Dragon novel is good.
>>67206166The trees are cute.
>>67203259'Ardboyz look like absolute shit.
>>67206193That is actually pretty cute. I like her teeth and horns.
>>67206055If you want something engaging to play, ignore skaven, they’re really good right now to the point where you could probably make an army list by throwing darts and it’d still be competitive
When you think we will get a new wave for early factions like Fyreslayers or FEC? What would you add to your favourite one?
>>67206296deepkin crab artillery
>>67206296Nautilus siege beast
>>67206296Second wave? No where close. GW's current update plan for older factions is to add terrain, endless spells and a maybe hero. Fyreslayers got Dollars per solo from Silver tower, Skaven got rocket rat, Sylvaneth got the Kurnoths Lady Revenant. That's about it.Kharadron might get something neat, since they don't have Endless Spells, and maybe they'll get some kind of neat sky Fort.
>>67205017>Read nearly every realmgate wars series.>Has skipped most of the recent books cos ive been too preoccupied with other stuff. Only ones read are city of secrets, callis/toll n silver shard and the KO one.I have a lot of catching up to do.
>>67206289Ya I've been doing some digging and it appears they're the top of the list for competitive games - not that I'm interested in competition side, but this is still good to know and I'm actually going to give them a pass now. As >>67206172 suggested, I'm going to give that book a read and give a read of the other factions books and lore.
>>67206377Mate he means once everything is up to standard and they start the release cycle by giving every army new units, what would those get.
>>67206055>NH is Nighthaunt and are the spooky ghosts right? They do have some really cool looking models to be fair but look very delicate and they might snap easily???Like other anons said, they only look delicate. Wobbly, sure, but not delicate.NH are fun, got a few different playstyles and look good all around. And Legion of Grief is always another option if you want to go down the bravery bomb path or expand into more death factions.
>>67206385You seem to like KO so this may be unnecessary at this point but you should take a look at every army and decide which ones you like the look of. Then, read the lore of those and reduce the list to the ones you like the most and then took up their playstyle. If you don't like any, look at the ones from the previous step. You are gonna spend a ton of money and time buying, building and painting those models, it's best to make sure you like them.
>>67206377Man idk why I even play this game. I got fyreslayers expecting they would add more
>>67206501LoG is also mechanically superior by the sheer virtue of having Graveyards which provides actual reanimation that isn't dogshit.d3 slain models is only cool with Hexwraiths or Spirit hosts and the only other reanimation is a spell contingent on the enemy not unbinding it.
>>67206530They will, just not soon since they still need to bring up to date lots of armies. Once they do that, they'll make new shit for everyone. In any case, why would it matter? You have a pretty sizeable roster that works well and has strong rules. Why would you stop playing them just because they aren't getting new units each year like stormcasts?
>>67206551Eh, I'd say that Deathriders is still pretty decent after the point drops on all of its units, and the fact that those units are are all pretty good.
>>67206591>They will, just not soon since they still need to bring up to date lots of armies. Once they do that, they'll make new shit for everyone.Citation needed.GW is perfectly capable of giving new shit to newer armies before updating old ones.See SCE and NH as already mentioned examples.
>>67206510I do like the KO, yes and as you say I'll be giving every faction a chance before committing to an army / purchase because I don't want to waste money on something I don't like. Definitely good advice
>>67206591>Magmadroth>vulkites>hearthguard>random dumb HQs that dont really count. Wow, 3 fighting units, whoopee. The HQs dont really count
>>67206530This is the right complain of every destruction faction but GSG and we don't even had a real update yet, you have no right to complain manlet
>>67206612Looks decent, but I feel it is a bit gimmicky despite being a very fun gimmick.The Harridans being a leader bothers me a smidge though. Buy 1 box, get 2. Both a 90 point leader.
>>67206616Because they want to leave the game in a playable state before expanding every army with new shit?
>>67206623It's not much but it's the bare minimum to make them functional. They aren't gonna expand a functional and strong army when there's still several without even a tome.
>>67206657Ah. So the sources are "your opinions and feelings" and also "your ass."Gotcha.
>>67206678It's basic common sense and pattern recognition. Things needed for everyday life. I wonder how you get by.
>>67206678I don't see you laying down any facts, bub.
>>67206678So you think they will leave factions with 3 units based on "GW bad they killed my old shit so they are bad" interesting... Can you fuck off now?
>>67206657Which is why SCE are at their fourth Battletome now while there are still factions without even a token set of Allegiance Abilities, I guess. Let's be real here, GW doesn't give a shit about a "playable state".
Do you guys think I should do it?
>>67206727Aww. Did you get hurt that people don't agree with you? You poor baby.>>67206711I'm not the one making claims here, you are.>>67206699>GW adhering to common senseI get by just fine, thank you for your concern.
>>67206739>Using SCE, the posterboy faction and Sigmar brand mark, as example of anythingYou cant be this retarded right?
that squiggly symbol looks familiarhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/07/11/make-winning-look-easygw-homepage-post-4fw-homepage-post-2/
>>67206739Wait for them to bring up "Your proof is just an exception to the rule xD."The autists are triggered.
>>67206739I think we all know they play favourites with SCE.
But does a wyldwood count as one awakened wyldwood using three of the wyldwood trees or does 1 wyldwood tree == 1 awakened wyldwood
>necromancer mercenary company>nurgle army>30 skellies>skellies get 3 attacks and +1 for hit rolls when near the necro>blades of putrefaction and vanhels danse macabre>2" range skellies with 3 attacks each, 4+/4+ and dealing mortal wounds on every hit roll of 5+>get to attack twice per combat phase>necromancer can bring some of the skelebros back every hero phase
>>67206767Want me to go with Khorne and their third book? Want me to go with Seraphon having gotten steady updates via the GHBs? At what point do you accept that your point was bullshit?
>>67206771kek >>67206767>>67206739I'm still unsure if Ogors are intended to be supported or not, got allegiance stuff for aelf flavours but not the hungry hippos
>>67206739its almost like they pivoted designs and started things fresh with aos 2.0almost like they switched CEOs or something
Stormcast Eternals are pretty nifty.
>>67206817They most than likely didn't get any GHB support because they'll be part of BCR since there's nothing really that makes them separate factions other than being mounted, which was retarded in the first place. They won't be squatted either, since Phil Kelly plays them.
>>67206807And there you go with Khorne the branded evil enemies of posterboys StormcastAt which point will you understand the difference within those both factions and the rest? Saurus, Freeguild, Dispossesed and a long etc are the factions that will be updated and that's a fact even if you cry and scream and say ",common sense means nothing for GW"At least you and the other retard could use your brains a little
>>67206769From that horn or something rumour engine I think>>67206860Soup autism perplexes me for that reason, some of the faction splitting is just bizarre
>>67206860The ogre soup is a fake idea just like the Wanderwrs+Sylvaneth soup. Its not happening, lore and gameplay style are different inall those factions
>>67206821Almost like half the Order factions and Gutbusters still don't have allegiance abilities of their own even with that pivot.
>>67206895>If I quietly ignore the point he made about Seraphon maybe he won't noticeSo what you're saying is that you have no arguments.
>>67206795if you read better you can see how an old wyldwood (the base) counts as a single awakened wildwood feature, while an awakened wildwood feature is done by 3-6 new trees
>>67206924bad comparison, Wanderers actually have been thrown a bone >>67206895I don't think you realize you're not making your case hereall you're doing is affirming gw doesn't give a shit about the state of several factions and will regularly support their faves regardless
>>67206977almost like they made a business decision to focus on other products in order to generate more revenue for their company instead of pandering to a bunch of idiot grogs that want potato shit
>>67206991What the moron is saying is in fact that he has no argument and just want to present his opinions as facts without people disagreeing because that hurts his little feelings.
>>67206551I agree the main problem is resurrection. >>67206612>>67206652Deathriders is what I based my army around. Having 2 sources of d3 models back is pretty damn good when hexwraiths are so tanky.The point drops made my list so much clearer and now you can fit a proper deathriders battalion and KoSoS into 1250 points.
>>67206924Dude BCR are just the ogre cavalry painted white and the only difference in lore is that one is being chased by a giant blizzard. At least Wanderers and Sylvaneth had completely different visual styles and Sylvaneth got new models. There's absolutely no reason to keep gutbusters separate from BCR and I'm not sure why anybody would be against the idea.
>>67207055Precisely. Thus disproving mister autist's claims that GW gives a shit about the playable state of the game.
>>67207055That's exactly why they've been souping the retarded microfactions and giving tomes to old armies?
>>67207108Please, tell me. What releases since the start of 2ed haven't been eplicitely updates to bring armies to the current standard or big releases to update an old faction?
>>67207112they havent focused entirely on those soup books, theyve still been releasing new stuff along the way
>>67207077>The point drops made my list so much clearer and now you can fit a proper deathriders battalion and KoSoS into 1250 points.Ok, that is pretty fucking cool.At 1250 point you evade a lot of the problems you encounter at 2000 points, which is the need for bodies and misc utility.
>>67207134GHB 2019. Didn't add a single set of Allegiance Abilities despite the fact that like half the ones in GHB 2018 got proper books so they clearly had leftover pages to put some shit for Gutbusters, Bonesplitterz and, I dunno, Phoenix Temple in but didn't.Now embarass yourself further and tell me why this example doesn't count.
>>67207151The only new stuff has been Nighthaunt, Sacrosanct and GSG. Other than SCE they were all also old factions updated into a proper army.
>>67207151Don't reply to trolls anon. They're just going to shift the goalpost, shit on everything and make outrageous claims presented as fact and decide they've "won" or some stupid shit.
>>67207134>>67207151Dont try to give a shit about the austist GW haters is a waste of time they believ3, in their crazy minds, that we will have a game with no updates for early old factions and that GW will just update SCE or chaos because 5hey are bad and do what they want.Its pure madness at this point with the latest releases but they will keep defending it
>>67207185Because I asked for actual releases, not the GHB?
>>67206924>Its not happening, lore and gameplay style are different inall those factionsThis is what people were saying about Gloomspite Gitz, and yet spiderfang and troggoths, completely different astethics and lore, are in the same book.Ogres should, and most likely will, be in the same book
>>67207228Keep believing that but Destruction can't afford lose a faction and most likely will not soup ogres from both factions.The main page of aos confirm this
>>67207169It's my favourite point limit to play at. Hordes are still a problem most of the time.
>>67207238For the love of god, there's nothing, absolutely nothing, no reason for gutbusters to be a separate faction from BCR. Their lore is the same. Their aesthetic is the same because they were the same fucking army and their playstyle is complementary becausethey were the same fucking army. Destruction can get new factions.
Daily reminder that AOS needs a catgirl faction.
>>67207214>I asked for actual releases so the most important annual book release doesn't countOkay, you win this round. I have nothing to add to such sterling logic.
>>67207241I'd heartily recommend Meeting Engagements then.Me and a few friends have been testing the waters and we're pleasantly surprised.It feels bad for people that have purchased horde armies, but the feeling of not having decisive killing power T1 or even sometimes T2 is actually a nice touch.It plays quick, it feels nice and games are a lot more focused around your small impactfull gimmicks as things doesn't immediately get removed or neutralized.
>>672071691250 points is actually kino, 1500 is good too. It leaves you room to actually have viable compositions unlike 1000 pts, but without the money requirements and op bullshit that appears at 2k
>>67207241I forgot to say; ME restricts you to playing SMUs or at most you're not allowed to play anything bigger than twice the smallest unit size.Skeletons and goblins for this example can never be in bigger groups than 20.
>>67207273>there's nothing, absolutely nothing, no reason for gutbusters to be a separate faction from BCRthere's no reason for souping them into a single factionyou could develop each factions identity instead of just having a single ogor faction>Their lore is the same. wrongfuck off lorelet
>>67207316Actually Gobbos come in stacks of 20 so you can play units of 40 in ME.
>>67207293Yes, the annual release book that updates points and gives a patchwork of allegiance abilities doesn't compare to actual releases like several kits of models, endless spells, a battletome and a piece of terrain.
>>67207273Their lore isn't the same, Anon.
>>67207345Well fuck me then.Thanks for correcting me. = )
>>67207338>you could develop each factions identity instead of just having a single ogor factionThey don't have any fucking identity outside of one having mounts and the other not. They are literally the fuciking same.>wrong>fuck off loreletThey are hungry and eat things. That's the entirety of Gutbusters lore. There's nothing stopping them from being part of BCR.
>>67207273Their aesthetic is different because one is living in eternal winter with no technology and the other have artillery and have a lot more of modelsEven their fucking god is different considering butchers worship the great maw and riders the hungering predators.Is like saying Bretonnia and Empire were the same. But as i tell you go to AoS main page that predicted GSG and see how Riders are still there just like Dispozsezed unlike Wanderers (souped into elfs)
>>67207365>I haven't read a single page of BCR battletomeWell keep crying i suppose last (you) for you
>>67207365They are hungry and eat things.Not that anon by what is up with the Great Maw and do you know what the Hellheart is?I remember playing against Ogre Kingdoms in fantasy but I never got into their lore.
>>67207298>I'd heartily recommend Meeting Engagements then.I haven't had the chance to play for a while, and I'm looking forward to trying it out. Here's the list I've got ready:Allegiance: NighthauntSpearheadKnight of Shrouds on Ethereal Steed(120)-General-Trait: Ruler of the Spirit Hosts10 x Hexwraiths(280)Deathriders(130)Main BodyDreadblade Harrow(90)-Artefact: Pendant of the Fell Wind10 x Hexwraiths(280)Deathriders(130)RearguardDreadblade Harrow(90)-Artefact: SlitterBlack Coach(260)Deathriders(130)Total:1250 / 1250Extra Command Points:1Wounds:68The slitter harrow I plan on teleporting to assassinate a priority target towards the end. Pendant Harrow to bring in the hexwraiths quick as the second wave.
>>67207367This anon is right. Dispossesed are there too and I'm happyhttps://ageofsigmar.com/factions/destruction/
>>67207367Empire and Bretonnia weren't the same army. Gutbusters and BCR were. BCR just got the furs of their mounts painted white. That's it. That's all they did.>>67207389What in the BCR says that gutbusters can't be in there too? They are the exact same ogres but without mounts.
>>67207367>(souped into elfs)Oh, so you are a brainded faggot. Gotcha.
>>67207395Slitter is such a fucking Kino artifact, a shame it can't be abused and randomly does nothing.Nice for offing 2+ saves 2W models with FnP or other shenanigans.That being said I prefer to use the Balefire sword instead. Can't dispute +1/+1 or +1A in some cases.
>>67207348>several kits of models,Okay, then I guess I can give FEC, Fyreslayers, Skaven and Sylvaneth as examples because none of those had several kits of models, terrain and endless spells.
>>67207444They all got updated tomes, spells, terrain and some a new hero. With several kits of models I was refering to the big releases: SCE, Nighthaunt and GSG.
>Faggots insisting ogres can't be together because they're 2 armies>When soup armies have several allegiance abilities for each faction and overall factionWell, I say faggots, but I feel like it's one fag just samefagging
>>67207434It's happening. Accept it now before you shit yourself with rage later.
>>67207473So now you admit you have an arbitrary double standard and will always find a way to weasel out of admitting you're chatting shit. You must be a lovely person to be around at your workplace. Oh wait.
>faggots insisting on merging ogors together even though they are clearly 2 distinct armies and listed as different factions on the official website>when there are already too many soup armies as it is and ogors could be expanded into something cool and unique
>>67207489>I will deny it until i see the Gutbusters solo update Fuck man i think you are trolling at this point
>>67207473damn son thats some sick goalposting youve got going on
>>67207439I usually bring it too, mostly because I modelled it onto my KoSoS. Just felt like making the Harrows a bit more useful in that list.
>>67207489>Well, I say faggots, but I feel like it's one fag just samefaggingBold assumption. I think you're severely underestimating the sheer amount of autists that frequent this general.I'm one of them, but not the ones you've talked to previously.
>>67207434I really wish i could see your face when the big soup aelf tome is released and you cry in rage. Such raged tears would be wasted
>>67207530You got a picture?I paint all my leader's with magical coloured swords, but I haven't modeled any of them.
>>67207510There are not nearly enough soup armies. Accept that splitting the old compendiums into microfactions was fucking retarded and that GW has been correcting it since 2016.
>67207489>I didnt read any battletome but in my old shit fantasy Ogre Kingdoms were one and only>I can't accept two ogre factions so i will cry and scream in a chinese cartoon forumKek
You don't understand, guys, Brayherd and Warherd are completely different armies, they won't be souped together!
>>67207579It's true, we'll have a tome for each Skaven clan!
The armies listed on the GW site is what they will be. They might be renamed, but that's it. Creatures of Chaos may be squatted.
>>67207554If you believe they will merge Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz, Gutbusters and BRC, Fyreslayers and Dispossesed and DoK with the rest of dark elfs you must have some serious brain damage anon
>>67207539>I think you're severely underestimating the sheer amount of autists that frequent this general.Fair enough I suppose>Spoiler My first post on the topic actually. I have an old ogre army from fantasy, so I don't care for microfaction bullshit. Putting them back together isn't exactly souping from my point of view. >>67207510>ogors could be expanded into something cool and uniqueMuch like Firebellies could be expanded to something cool. Problem is that it's expecting too much from GW. NH was the exception to that rule.
>>67206530I'm actually happy with how contained the factions are. Being the kind of person that likes to have 1 of everything, it makes it much more manageable to build an army.
>>67207605>Creatures of chaos>A factionSuuuuuuuuuuuuuure thing
>>67207411InterestingIt implies soup in a different sense, Firebelly and Gargants will be lumped into Gutbusters. I think they already combined them on the storepage a while back.
>>67207579beastclaw have their own book and have diverged significantly from the old ogre kingdomsif they didnt pivot their design they would have eventually developed brayherd and warherd into separate micro factions like sylvaneth, ironjawz, and dok
>>67207607Of those I only believe Gutbusters and BCR. Ironjawz and Bonesplitterz's only thing in common is being orcs and DoK have pretty different aesthetics from the rest of DE and have been expanded with new models that deviate even more.
>>67207616>I never even finished reading the post before shitting out a reply
What is the #1 most powerful game breaking faction to use in modern Age of Sigmar?
>>67207626Yep but there are so much autists and contrarians in this thread that not a single one wants to read and shut up already. That page is the final state of AoS
>>67207605It's not like that list has changed a million times through the years or anything.
>>67207608>Much like Firebellies could be expanded to something cool. Problem is that it's expecting too much from GW. NH was the exception to that rule.And Ironjawzand sylvanethand DOKtheres lots of precedent for the same thing happening to a faction like Gutbusters
>>67207647>Your answer is in your god damn picture.>>67207608Are you that 'Sweaty Firebelly abs" autist that frequented the board a year ago?
>>67207605>>67207616Creatures of Chaos will be merged into BoC category and StD when they get their update. You can't have chaos warriors without their monsters.
>>67207633Pestilens also had their own book and look what happened. Also painting the fur of the mounts white isn't a big deviation.
>>67207651Slaves is merging with EverchosenAelf soup also is implied following that
>>67207647Depends on what you mean by "game breaking". If you mean "this faction is absurdly powerful" then after GHB2019 the top 3 are these:1. Fyreslayers2. Stormcast3. Slaanesh in a melee meta, otherwise SeraphonIf you mean "which factions break the rules of the game" then it's Seraphon followed by Slaanesh and then Stormcast (aetherwings opop)
>>67207661There's also a lot of examples of the opposite happening. The reality is that gutbusters don't have any lore that stops them from becoming part of BCR.
>>67207656Yeah but they now match up to the AgeOfSigmar.com site.
>>67207694Didn't you forget Skaven, FEC and fucking LoN?
>>67207663Thank you. I've been saying that since forever.
>>67207687Right. Wanderers and the rest of elfs will be mashed together, Ogres and orcs will end with two factions Creatures are probably going with BoC and Firebellies and Gargants will go to Gutbusters
>>67207552Only an old one from when I first built them a year ago. Haven't had reason to take more pics, since I mostly lurk here, plus I'm not that great of a painter. The sword is from the freeguild battlemage kit, secured with poorly sculpted greenstuff.Yes, I'm the spooky Bret anon
>>67207670Seems like they had plans to build each Skaven faction into its own book. Skryre had its own allegiance, after all. In the short term it makes sense to soup them in order to make them playable.I think they probably started souping microfactions after they realized it would take them 10+ years to get around to updating them into full factions. I would love to play a Clans Moulder or Lion Rangers army, and maybe in 10 years they will have its own model release.
>>67207700And that obviously can't ever change. It's not like it has shit like creatures of chaos and aelfs that are obviously placeholders.
>>67207726Yes, they realized spliting the armies into unplayable or barely playable microfactions was a shit idea and that's why they are putting them back together where they can.
>>67207703No, I didn't forget about them at allThey're strong factions but they are not quite as good as the 3 (or 4) I listed unless you're playing with a bunch of idiots that don't know how to screen alpha strikes
I managed to find one of the big battleforces of Idoneth Deepkin. Thinking about going for wavechad next. What is better, aspect of the Sea or of the Storm?
>>67207720That's cool though.I'm Green sun Anon so I guess we're green friends.
>>67207662>Are you that 'Sweaty Firebelly abs" autist that frequented the board a year ago?Nope, just a good example of a useless microfaction with potential. Besides, I try to actually make a contribution instead of projecting my fetishes
>>67207747>where they canI don't think that's a correct interpretation. They have done 3 soup books (Skaven, Gitz, BOC) but that doesn't necessarily mean they intend on souping every faction.The only real evidence we have of their intent is how the factions are presented on ageofsigmar.com. From day 1 the website had Skaven, Gitz/Troggoths, and BOC as single factions. Right now it lists Gutbusters and BCR as two different factions. This is the only evidence of intent we have available; everything else is speculation and baseless wishlisting.
>>67207716The gargant kit has a decent number of options I thinkCould probably make more than one profile out of it, helps bulk up the faction and the gargant section A good question would be what about BonesplitterzThey're basically an army borne by 2 kits
>>67207787While your contributions are nice, the sweaty abs shitposter did a lot to spread awareness of the faction though.
>Ogres will have two factions>Skaven couldnt have clans>Big elf soupThey will not be this retarded right?
>>67207729Creatures of Chaos is just Beasts of Chaos on AgeofSigmar.com
>>67207790Also, it's worth pointing out situations where they COULD have souped factions but chose not to, such as Fyreslayers (Dispossessed) and Sylvaneth (Wanderers).They are updating these factions on a case-by-case basis. It could go either way with Ogors, but as I said before there is evidence suggesting they will be kept separate and distinct.
>>67207790>They have done 3 soup booksWrong.>Blades of Khorne>Disciples of Tzeentch>Maggotkin of Nurgle>Stormcast Eternals>Legions of NagashThose are also all soup tomes and arguably there's still several left>Freeguild+Ironweld humans+Collegiate Arcane+Devoted of Sgimar>Dispossessed+Ironweld dwarves>Darkling Covens+Shadowblades+Order SerpentisThe question is now wheter they'll merge Gutbusters and BCR back and I just can't see any reason not to.
>>67207795I remember one thread had a pretty thorough discussion on Firebellies. I think I might've started it by bringing the microfaction bullshittery up regarding them, but could've been a different occasion.
>>67207826I agree with Sylvaneth, I think it was a stupid idea to leave them separate after the recent lore saying Allarielle had forgiven them but Fyreslayers could never be with Dispossesed. Not only are their aesthetics and playstyle completely different, their lore is pretty excplicit in how they are separated from classic dwarves.
>>67207845The 2016-2018 era was a shitty one for Skaven considering Kirby's microfaction treatment.Maybe Ogres will get the Skaven treatment some day, but they're less iconic so I fear also a lesser priority.
>>67207783I remember you saying people were sperging over that a couple days ago. Looks good imo.
>>67207822It also includes undivided daemons in the webstore, so it's a pretty fucking obvious placeholder. Which means you shouldn't take that website as absolute since it's full of placeholders.
>>67207489The other armies get souped because they have fuck-all lore before souping. The one time a battletome army got souped was Pestilens, and they always were part of skaven society, while BCR are now fluffed as separate from normal ogors, and souping them would require going back on battletome and core rulebook.
>>67207883The point is that normal ogres don't have any lore and BCR can easily be retconned.
>>67207826Both Sylvaneth and Fyreslayers were created almost immediately in the game and have been extremely distinct from Wanderer and Dispossessed ever since, in both fluff and gameplay. Merging them would be like advocating for merging Stormcast and Freeguild because they are both human factions.
>>67207843Fuck I forgot>StD+Everchosen+Creatures of Chaos+Chaos gargants
>>67207843>I just can't see any reason not to.I guess I'm just not autistic enough to understand why you would WANT to merge these factions instead of letting them develop in distinct ways
>>67207843>The question is now wheter they'll merge Gutbusters and BCR back and I just can't see any reason not to.This isn't a case of what you/we think, GW can do whatever. But what seems likely, for that past trends and their faction grouping is all that counts. In which case, it appears ogors will soup with the firebelly and gargant >>67207489That will probably be the case for aelvaes
>>67207881The website dont have any placeholders. It has Creatures of chaos (BoC) and aelfs is there too which indicates just soup tomes
>>67207883>souping them would require going back on battletome and core rulebookOr, you know, advancing their story to include basic fatbros
>>67207880Thanks, but the color is "wrong."People get triggered if you don't paint your models in the GW default scheme.It is supposed to be>PURPLE.
>>67207899>Merging them would be like advocating for merging Stormcast and Freeguild because they are both human factions.So we agree that it would be silly to soup both factions of ogors simply because of a racial connection
>>67207906Because the only differentiating factor between them is one has mounts and the other doesn't. I don't think that's enough of a theme to warrant leaving two half armies that need a lot to become real armies instead of just putting them back together and having a complete army.
>>67207935>Because the only differentiating factor between them is one has mounts and the other doesn't.lmao lorelet pls go>>67207895>my headcanon will totally work just retcon everything bro!!!okay im done entertaining your autism
>>67207895Disagree with you and soon you will see why, because BCR are now part of this setting and Gutbusters will be just like the rest of old factions that would be update.
>>67203923It was about time that they explicitly said it though.
>>67207755Wizard, other guy is just a boring beatstick
>>67207881Creatures of Chaos on the webstore is a different thing to Creatures of Chaos on AoS.com.
>>67207694>1. Fyreslayers>2. StormcastYou have clearly no idea what you are talking about
>>67207918Mate Creatures of Chaos is a placeholder already since it's not the name of the faction. It also had grots before being changed into gloomspite gitz and has StD and Everchosen, which obviously won't be the name of their tome. It's a fact that there are placeholders.
>This whole discussion about ogres>There are already lots of rumour engines that indicates Gutbusters solo updateWhy are you faggots wasting your time like this?
>>67207927I think they were just trolling at that point. Anyone who complains about colour schemes irl is a turbo autist I wouldn't play with on principle.
>>67205374No you're right; All the old stuff is getting replaced.
>>67207973post your armypost how it would beat anvilstrike or hermdar LOTLill wait
>>67207951The lore has nothing to do with the fact that they took all the cavalry from Ogre Kingdoms and split it into its own army. They are the exact same models as before just painted white. There's nothing differentiating them from the rest of the models other than white that was painted brown before. Stop being this stupid.
>>67207694>Stormcast (aetherwings opop)Unironically this.Stormcast has so many one-off abilities that goes against the general rules of the game.>Overwatch from 40k, check.>Moving units on the opponent's turn, check.>Augmenting endless spells, check.
>>67207981Rumour engines doesn't have anything to do with what the book will include.
>the TGA thread for Dispossessed is almost as big as the KO and about the same size as the IDK onewhat is it about the most autistic flavour of dwaerves that makes them popular despite being forgotten>>67207941gracias
>>67208005God damn I'm still upset about that stupid fucking artillery piece they stole from other factions
>>67207985Same. My friends are happy that all our models are painted but I guess real life standards doesn't apply to aosg.
>>67208017Classic dwarves are cool. Things don't need to have a crazy spin to be appealing.
>>67208017My thanks to the memesmiths in the apothecary.Have all of my (You)s.
>>67207930Yes but I'm not the one you were arguing with
>>67207996*laughs in Morathi*Sure is a lot of Fyreslayers topping tournaments
>>67208017is it really hard to believe that autistic people would be drawn to a faction of short fat angry sadbrains that live underground and never let go of a grudge?
>>67208025Remember when almost every army had a bolt thrower or artillery of some kind? Remember when armies had almost every kind of unit unless the lack of one was one of their defining traits, which was compensated by something else instead of having 3 hyper specialized units that do the same? Remember how they killed all of that and then gave it to SCE?
>>67208025Also, I 'fixed' the femcast model.Did you spot it?
>>67208046DOK are literally an autolose to anvilstrikeits not even worth deploying
>>67208017Tolkien concepts are popular? WHAT THE FUCK
>>67208069You just removed her ponytail and half her torso. She looks wierd as fuck.
>>67207996Isn't Anvilstrike hard countered by Sylvaneth because all the ranged firepower of the world can't do shit when the opponent can just put out scenery that shot line of sight?
>>67208098>nobody tell him women are able to be skinny
>>67208134Mate look at her arms and legs ain't no way that's her real waist and torso.
What we expect of the Sigmarcatraz and Nagash friend? Will be a vampire? A Skeleton? A zombie?
>>67208126No, Anvilstrike actually beats down Sylvaneth pretty hard even. Since they can deep strike and teleport the Longstrikes the Sylvaneth player will instantly lose the game if they leave the woods, and if they stay in the woods they lose to Heraldor and Evocators.Unbind scrolls limit the dryad/wood spawning and aetherwings stop melee long enough to cripple the sylvaneth player.Its a pretty easy matchup for stormcast if they are a competent player
>>67208149>Slim waist compared to torso>It doesn't conform to our real world standards.>Magical soldiers made of lightning and magic.>Wielding non-proportionate weapons and silly-sized armor.Ok anon.
>>67208134She's wearing heavy armor, Anon.
>>67207808skaven are dumb, big boys sell surprisingly well
>>67208193Seems your evaluation rely a lot on everything going right for Anvilstrike. Please remind me, how many tournaments have Stormcast won since the last battletome?
>>67208005>lightning powered corsetsI want a deadwalker hero wearing an extreme corset now
>>67208232>Slim waist compared to torso>It doesn't conform to our real world standards.>Magical soldiers made of lightning and magic.>Wielding non-proportionate weapons and silly-sized armor.Ok anon.
>>67208298>Big boys sellWhy you lie like this?
>>67208363>lightning powered corsets>It's magic, I aint gonna explain shit.I also just want a deadwalker hero with a new Death tome.
If I get 2 boxes of dispossessed warriors that gets me 30 warriors plus 2 spare. How easy would it be to convert those into a Warden King and Runelord?
>>67208299>how many tournaments have Stormcast won since the last battletome?How many are playing Anvilstrike?Most stormcast players are just using some variation of a sequitor trash list.
>>67207996I though Anvilstrike was nerfed in the last GH like every other CP intensive army.
>>67208363>you can now kiss her tummy while knowing there's no guts behind itAbsolutely based corset makers
>>67208404So there is this amazing list, but nobody is playing it?
>>67208398Warden king you'd just need to bling him up a bit. Runelord is more difficult. I'd rather buy the actual kit for him since is great and has several options so if you get more they won't be the exact same.
>>67208363I don't think this is what humans work.
>>67208404Wait, so Stormcast are overpowered but nobody plays them at tournaments? Over what are you basing your claim of Anvilstrike being OP then?
>>67208439Well I can always get one later, but to get away with in a game you reckon give him a stave, maybe a book if I can get one I’d get away with it?
>>67208398>>67208439 i mean the new models for them are top notch and even the BFSP thane is sweet but i bet you could turn an axe into a runestaff fairly easily
>>67208419Its not CP intensive at all, not sure where you got that idea. It uses 1 CP per turn to either double tap Longstrikes or fight with Evocators/Desolators.>>67208430Think about it this way...How many people collect Stormcast?How many of those people play Stormcast?How many of those people own the models for the very specific unit combinations required?How many of those people actually want to use that specific playstyle?How many of those people have the experience and skill to pilot it properly?How many of those people are able to attend large events?We are talking about a very small subset of the playerbase here. It's not like FEC where any schlub can buy a bunch of start collecting boxes and put together a netlist that can table people by mindlessly running forward and hitting things in melee.
I'm thinking of making a stormcast army with some freeguild allies. Anyone know some knight helmet bits that could go with the stormcasts? I think the face masks look retarded, I want a more dark souls-esq look
>>67208404I am pretty sure a lot of people tried Anvilstrike when the Battletome came out. I remember it being one of the hot tactics. Why people would have stop playing that if it was so devastating? The Sigmar Illuminatis stopped them?
>>67208509>Its not CP intensive at all, not sure where you got that idea. It uses 1 CP per turn to either double tap Longstrikes or fight with Evocators/DesolatorsMust be because in all of the white room tactics heard about it the units are all teleporting over the board in order to always have line of sight to the right target while also doing that.
>>67208526It took some time to iron out the kinks, and learn to play it properly.At first people went too heavy on shooting, and you can't do that in the tournament scene because of Realmscapes and Wyldwood blocking sight and limiting range. Once people started adapting a secondary melee threat like Evocators (and now Desolators) it started to come together.It is not a unit combination that is immediately noticed as powerful, like the 30 HGB blobs or Gristlegore.
>>67208572You can teleport with prayers (and realm spells)There is a version of the list that uses the Lord-Aquilor to spend command points to get guaranteed board edge teleport, but it's not the best version of the list
With all this ogre discussion is a good time to buy fatbois? Should i buy gnoblars too? Or should i wait?
>>67208500>>67208504Yeah. If I remember correctly, one of the banners has a big book, so you can use that and the stick to make the staff. I don't really like the warden king, though. Since it was a named character when they made it, it's got too much personality to be a generic hero. Blinging up a longbeard or ironbreaker or even a warrior is better in my opinion.
>>67208509Have you ever played at a tournament anon? Have you ever talked to tournament players? Competitive players don't play lists because they already collect the army, happens to have the models and like the playstile. They play lists because they win. If Anvilstrike was really strong the first time someone happened to win a tournament you'd have lots of people testing it and eventually buying the miniatures for it.
>>67208524Mooch some Wyldwood Ranger hooded heads from a Wanderers player. They should have some from the Eternal Guard they no doubt built. Hooded heads go decently. They're not knight helmets, but real knight helmets are hard to come by. GW basically doesn't produce any anymore and most historicals in the correct scale probably won't have enough spares.
>>67208504Yeah I probably will at some point but I can start playing games with them
>>67208596Don't rush into anything. But do use Gnoblars. Everyone underestimates them because most people gloss over how fucking scary their size bonus is.
>>67208581Yeah I'm sure it took twelve months for people to realize the incredibly complex formula of powerful shooting platform + powerful melee threat.
>>67208404I win three times with anvilstrike once playing on an old book and twice on a new one 3-0 for me. I played with a competent tournament player. Anvilstrike is low midd tier
Got some old tomb king models on ebay and i noticed this yellowish mark on one of them. It's almost like a burn. I don't ever remember seeing this on other finecast stuff before. Is this something that happens or could it be a recast?
>>67208686now it is significantly weakened
>>67208581Most of all it's stormcasts so that's shit anyhow
Oldy but Goldy https://spikeybits.com/2016/12/making-green-stuff-work-for-you-hobbyist-spotlight.html
>>67208581Can you post a list? I'd like to try it.
>>67203121>was killedHe was devoured not killed. Gazul's temples still hold power enough to seal a greater daemon of Slaanesh
>>67204173Stormcast are explicitly more human than space Marines Like literally as a point
Why don't you faggots convert?
>>67208874Because StD are shit and I don't have any motivation to play them, let alone convert them. When GW releases their tome and new chaos warrior models I will.
>>67208705Looks to me like a part was bent so he heated it up to try and fix it but overdid it. Or I dunno, his dog shat on it.
>>67208390you have no idea how many people get into warhammer asking for the following>easy to play>easy to paint>not too many miniatures>bang for my bucksand get directed towards ogres
God I wish I was Kurnoss so I could have Banshees giving me sph for all eternity.
>>67208969But these days we have much better big boys to recommend to people. Like, oh, BCR. Twelve models at 2000 points sounds very appealing. Similarly with Nurgle. Very low model count unless you don't want them to be.
I want the fucking wanderers battletome with Orion and eagles is that so much to ask?
>>67203540Literally just rules for the same models. The gargant is a kit ideal for conversion.
>>67209199No, anon. I want it too. I just wish they hadn't taken treelords from us.
>>67208989>Kurnoss>Relief Pick one and only one
Can you attempt to disspell and endless spell multiple times per turn,providing you have enough casts?
FEC players post armies i wanna see yo schemes
>>67209285>he seriously believes in aelf soup, specially for wanderers or darkling covens that even have GHB allegiances
>>67209312A single book can have several allegiances.
>>67209342Other than skaven, none had several armies with allegiances. It's always been one of the allegiances + all the microfactions that were related to them. Also such a tome would be a horrible overlaping mess with no coherent playstyle, theme or aesthetic.
>>67209371Gloomspite Gitz and Beasts of Chaos have multiple Allegiances.
>>67208017it's literally a faction that appeals to people who hate anything that isn't stereotypical, hate new things, and feel connected to short, ugly bearded critters. You know, half of wargamers.
>>67208456it's how corsets work. It wasn't healthy.
>>67209405Don't respond to anti soup fags, they'd rather whine about how awful soup is while not playing the game than get a soup tome with multiple allegiances resulting in dozens of old kits becoming playable
>>67209371>Also such a tome would be a horrible overlaping mess with no coherent playstyle, theme or aesthetic.then we agree it's a perfect fit for elves!
>>67209371>>67209312How hard will you cry elf fags? 4 are already too much for your kind. Enjoy your soup
>>67209285>No Lion Rangers>No Scourge PrivateersFuck i hope they don't do this
>>67209504Soup tomes are fine if done correctly, which until now, has been the case. An aref soup tome would be shit. I've already said why multiple times but you people don't care about the quality of the game.
>>67209615Don't group us in with that fag, he sperges with the exact same lines every time someone mentions soup, even his grandma
>>67209722>The quality of the game will be bad if we have an elf soup tomeOnly anti-soup elfaggots can be such narcissistic idiots
>>67206551Would this flake off more or less than the technical crackle paint?
>>67209989This is a new technical paint designed to crackle like that specifically.
>>67208398Warden King would mainly just be the stone and a banner for standing out. A weapon and shield swap would be ideal. I used a spare longbeard's shield arm and weapon arm, then a miner's banner and green stuff fur cloak. For the runelord I'm not sure. Basing to make him taller than normal warriors, a hammer weapon and maybe a misc book bit or something thrown on.