An old warrior wants to join your group. He can barely raise his sword and armor, but he is determined and run away from home because he wanted to have a HERO´S DEATH instead of a slow painful one around scheming relatives.What do? Do you let him join you? Do you believe on him? Would he be useful? Is he being irresponsable?
>>67193527I cannot allow this human to come to harm. It would violate the First Law.
>>67193558What kind of game have you been playing?
>>67193527Challenge him to a duel and give him the warrior’s death he deserves
>>67194251Nice, heard good things about this game.
>>67193527As long as he legitimately understands he is going to die, and none of us get killed along with him because of his nonsense... if I can't persuade him, I bring him along.I'm not so sure about this "heroes death" nonsense, or even heroism in general. And I like to think i'm a pretty big moral fag. But I believe in letting people have the dignity to choose how they wanna go out, as long as it doesn't harm others. And there's a far cry between convincing someone not to take their life, and someone who is already dying deciding where to do it.Besides this is clearly a GMPC who, if not a God or something in disguise, will have plot significance. ALSO if he's that old and has his own gear he's probably like, level 20 at least
>>67193527Create a permanent illusion spell that makes him think that he's fighting a glorious battle until he starves to death. I have a spell on him to detect his life and auto-heal him when he's nearing starvation level death. I take his land and rent it out and put it in a trust for him. Then, near the time of his death I return, enter the illusion as if I was there the whole time and get him to sign a contract willing me his estate.I'm lawful good by the way.
>>67193527We take him along with us; after all, there's nothing wrong with wanting to die in battle. We keep him alive long enough for his death to mean something. Maybe give him a magic weapon and a potion that can make him as strong as he was a few years back and then let him sacrifice himself when the chips are really down.....
>>67195155That doesn't seem veey fair.
>>67193527Step aside, gramps. Next gen coming through.
>>67195155I'm lawful evil but thanks for the idea. Too bad Warforged don't need food so I can't use it against my main targets.
>>67193527He shall lead the van
>>67193527Who am I to deny a warrior his chance at Valhalla?
>>67197282> -4STR -2INTNo thanks, I'm better of sticking with the old fart.
>>67193527Surely there's someone among his family worth living with and loving in his final days. Isn't he their hero? If there truly is no one, I'll be happy to host him and he can seek his final fortune on my quest, but if there's even one son or daughter who can benefit from a recount of wisdom, deed or kindness, he's letting them down by running away, and I'll only have him if he tells them his reasons to their face before he goes. I won't allow a coward to have my back.
>>67195155I'm usually not the type of man who believes in alignment shifts.But that's gonna be a plummeting to lawful evil.
>>67193527I allow him the dignity of challenging me to a duel to the death. It may not be a hero's death, but a warrior's is almost as good. I guess I could do something villainous later to make him more heroic by having challenged me.
>>67193527Absolutely. It'd be immoral to deny him his opportunity to die on his own terms, seeking glory and honor. It is never too late to earn the respect of the gods; your will to fight is more important than your ability.That said, I'd probably be inclined to help him out a bit. Chuck a couple buffs on him, and at worst he'll be as strong as he was back when he was middle aged. Let him relive the vigor of youth before he goes to his final reward. Let the gods judge him as the man he was, not the body he was burdened with.
>>67193527>What do? Respect his wishes, and >Do you let him join you? Of course>Do you believe on him? Not sure what this means>Would he be useful?It would not be fitting to allow him to die totally pointlessly, so we'd probably use him as a distraction.>Is he being irresponsable?Probably, but I have a soft spot for irresponsible old fools like him. And I am a firm believer in the right to choose how you go out, within reason.
>>67198180Exceptionally good post.
>>67193527Very well old man. I don't carry dead weight though, you'll have to keep yourself alive if you're in danger. I'm sure that tired rotting brain of yours still has some tricks in it that'll work.(In game I bet he's a kick ass lazy warlord. Can't fight for shit himself but he can sure tell these youngsters how to do it right.)
>>67193527>Party has alchemist, cleric and druidIf the enemy won't kill him, performance-enhancing drugs and enchantments will.
>>67193527>Old man barely survives to the end of campaign>Entire party dead or incapacitated by the big bad>About to execute last standing PC>A cool breeze enters the room as a door opens>"Stop right there, sonny.">The hunched silhouette of the old man is in the doorway>With a crossbow>Fires a single, well placed shot, killing the big bad as it looks on in horror>Old man collapses as he sucumbs to his mortal wounds.
>>67209794>it was him>he was the lucky peasant
>>67193527Sure, we give him the arquebus. Just because you're a warrior doesn't mean you're stuck with jumping into the fray. And just because you want to die a hero's death doesn't mean you should throw away your sense of personal safety. He'll be sniping the heads off demons in no time. Guns, the great equalizer.
>>67193527i cast wish and make him young again. it doesn't get twisted and there are no drawbacks.
>>67195155Based. I just ate all the beef jerky and stood up past my bedtime for Lawful Good.
>>67193527The old man ran away from his family to die? Selfish. The old man is useless in combat, but wants me to give him a spot in the party for charity's sake? Selfish. If he's telling the truth, he would be a terrible party member. If he's lying, he's dangerous. Therefore, I tell him he's being selfish, and that he should go back to his family, but challenge him to a duel. In one week's time, I will fight him honorably to either death or yield. Then I take my leave. I spy on him for a week to scope him out. If he is suspicious in any way whatsoever, I do whatever it takes to figure out what his angle is. If he's legit, then I fight to death or yield.
>>67213147To be honest he wants to run away from his SCHEMING family. His family might be evil, selfish or mistreat him.
>>67213591That's what he claims, anyway.
>>67193527I respect the determination, if not the goal.I would try to find a spell or blessing that would temporarily make him fit enough to give one good fight, but I doubt I would take him off on long travels where he might die before he ever sees that final battle.
>>67197282Why did this image make my peepee twitch?
>>67193527Fuck off old man were full.
>>67194983It applies Aasimov's laws of robotics, which is as bad a thing as I could have heard about it and which will keep me away from it.
>>67193527Heros aren't real but if battle is what he wants he'll get plenty of it with us
>>67193527Take him to the spiral dungeon and have him fight the pitbeasts until he is struck down.
>>67197282I feel the old man has more to contribute to the party then this and wont go up in a fire ball when an ogre or troll get so much as a glancing shot.
>>67220867Only if you take a certain optional flaw for more points at chargen. Otherwise, they're nearly as free willed as humans.