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Whenever You Start An Argument, If It Isn't A Political Argument, You May Pay {2}. If You Do, Copy That Argument Edition

Previously: >>66246017

>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net

>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often explain strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net

>Statistically see what everyone else is putting in their Commander decks.
http://www.edhrec.com/

>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, bengis on Commander color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/

>Official search site. Current for all released sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/

>GOAT search interface and hi-res cards
http://scryfall.com

>Thread Topic
What's your most controversial opinion about EDH or about Magic in general? (It can be in the context of /edhg/, /tg/, or the Magic community as a whole.)
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>TQ
not controversial here but planeswalkers were a mistake
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>TQ
Stax and control in general is only for narcissists and people who hate fun.
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>decide to try out oathbreaker after a freind keeps bugging me to try it
>make a jank Jace, cunning castaway deck for fun with dismiss into dreams as my signature spell (I know I thought enchantments could be signature spells)
>sit down to play
>Teferi hero of Dominaria with Render silent as sig spell
>New Gideon with wrath as sig spell
>New Narset with windfall as sig spell
haha lol
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>>66256890
>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH or about Magic in general?

Cedh is worthless.
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>>66256924 #
>Spirit of the format is extremely important for the sheer reason that most people don't enjoy that kind of environment
Stay at your mom's kitchen table if cannot handle the heat at your LGS.
Do not forget your sippy cup, you big baby.
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>>66256890
>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH
mana dorks aren't good unless you have a deck that needs a high creature count.
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>>66256890
>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH or about Magic in general?
Land Destruction is fine and welcome.
>>66256949
>t. combofag
I don't play stax or control, but only combocucks have a real burning fear of stax. The rest wouldn't be forced to suffer if you didn't run boring combos.
Control is easy to play through in a 4 payer game so if you have a problem with it u just need to build your deck better.
>>66256992
This isn't controversial at all, wtf???
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>>66256890
>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH or about Magic in general?

People are too adamant about EDH being their [safe space] where they firmly believe to have a valid excuse to build a subpar or just bad deck. They never acquire good deckbulding skills nor good critical and strategic decision making if they keep wading in a "forever only casual" just like a full-grown adult playing at the monkey bar or ball pool. Truly cringy and pathetic.
cEDH is the wake up call.
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>TQ

cEDH is a mistake, if you want competitive play, every other format is for you, EDH is intentionally casual.
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>>66257082
>EDH is intentionally casual.
Howany times did you repeat this to yourself to finally believe it's true?
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>>66257070
Absolutely agree, nothing wrong with MLD but I love the salt when someone wipes all lands and I float the mana to deny their attempt to recover from it.
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>>66257105
edh is literally categorized as a "casual format"

that's not just one dude's opinion. it's literally a fact. wotc has commander listed on their "casual formats" page.
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>>66257105
Because it is true. The only "competitive" edh format is technically duel commander and no one fucking plays that shit for a reason.

So you're tryharding a casual format that was created to be casual and is officially classified as casual because?
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>>66257126
>cast Obliterate
>Timmy floats 10 green mana
>resolves
>go to combat
>main phase 2: play mountain
>pass

Nothing personell, kiddo.
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>>66257164
>posting a random non-edh related screenshot with no explanation
oof that's a low quality post
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>>66257172
>I didn't read the post so I'll post cropped gay porn
Hello retard
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>>66257079
>cEDH is the wake up call.
No it's not. It turns more people off of the format than it doesn't, hell Mikaeus loops do the same.

Otherwise I pretty much agree with your post. It's less so even the deckbuilding, and more so just the bad play habits.

>>66257126
>>66257172
>cast Cataclysm against Windgrace
>float 2 mana
>play land for turn
>Scavenger Grounds
HHNNNGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>66256890
TQ: The rationale of "there is a limited amount of fun, and I am going to have all of it" is dumb and gay, I don't care what anyone says. It is entirely possible for everyone at the table to have a decent time.
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>>66256890
Planeswalkers are fine as long as you don't go overboard/play with other stuff (Like being able to answer problems i.e. exile/counterspells). Oathbreaker is a bad idea. Combofags are retarded. The duality between budgeting too much and going all out with your deck is a fine line.
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>>66257209
You're missing the intent here.
He's rejoicing in the comfy feel of resolving MLD against Rampers
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>>66257048
That is a pretty popular oppinion. On the other hand some dorks like G Sylvala or Ork Lumberjack for example are still really good if they fit your deck
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>>66257162
>The only "competitive" edh format is technically duel commander and no one fucking plays that shit for a reason.

Burgerland is not the whole world, nigger.
Saturday night is cEDH and Leviathan in most LSGs here in Southamerica. With showdown pack and credit as prizes.
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>>66257162
>So you're tryharding a casual format that was created to be casual and is officially classified as casual because?

In my experience because he would get his ass kicked if he tried to play modern or other really competitive formats, so he resort to the format equivalent of pub stomping. It's easy to win when you are the only one that brings a competitive deck.
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>>66257255
>Saturday night is cEDH and Leviathan in most LSGs here in Southamerica.

So that's why you're a degenerate that can't play a real format for competitive needs. You know there's no money in cedh right? You'll be better off using your 1400 to buy a modern deck and actually have a chance to win real money.
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>>66257255
>calling other people nigger
>is from south america
>plays """""cEDH"""""
Yeah okay
Come back when you stop larping
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But would you a sea monsters?
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>>66257312
>>66257294
>>66257258
>>66257255
>>66257162
>>66257105
>>66257082
You can tell these posts were made by the same person by the way they are typing. Ignore these posts and talk about EDH instead.
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>>66257258

This right here is the problem. cEDH is the bastard stepchild. It's competition grafted onto a casual format because the real competitive formats are too hard, so instead people force everyone to pretend to be competitive.
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>>66257339
Sounds like cedh nigger was BTFO yet again.
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>>66257322
Why should I build sea monster tribal?
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>>66257339

>anyone who disagrees with me must be samefagging
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>>66257322
With the right Commander
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>>66257339
>Link to posts done within 20 seconds from each others.
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>>66257408
Forgot to post the right Commander
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>>66257339
Try again, fag.
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>>66257377
cause it's the only mono blue deck to play that will not get you raped by a bunch of salty neckbeards after leaving the lgs ?
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>>66257164
This is the most retarded thing I've ever fucking read, jesus christ. How much of a shill can you be
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>>66257438
>>66257424
>>66257390
>>66257357
I'm on to you lad.
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>>66257255
Leviathan is a format that was literally created by guys getting so much butthurt about Duel Commander banlist and decision to reduce the starting life that they splintered in order to keep doing their bullshit.

It's a sad and pathetic excuse for a format.
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>>66257357
cEDHlets BTFO eternally. When will they learn?
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>>66257443
My LGS only plays legacy and modern, occasional draft too. I stick to group play
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>>66257481
Oh, really?
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Is signature spell really as bad as it sounds or do people actually try to have fun with it?
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>>66257164
So what this retard is saying that the transphobia we saw on tarkir does exist in mtg, but homophobia does not.

Love it when cucks' own identity politics turn them into bigots, nice.
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>>66257349
Based.
cEDHlets can't into 60 card constructed.
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>>66257559
See>>66256969
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I would like to post this image of my decks to encourage discussion of my favorite format (Elder Dragon Highlander).
As well as because peoples opinions of your decks is just deeply interesting.
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>>66257559
Depends on the people you play with, just like everything else. I want to build mono-G Garruk with Harrow and windmill slam every land I own onto the table in short order.
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>>66257427
Krakens on horses anon? Now that’s just silly.
The only right commander is papa Arix
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>>66257202

thought most of you would like it consider a lot of people here rail againt chad xena decks while also praising Kynaios and Tiro
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>>66257621
I didn't think Omen Machine and Knowledge Pool worked together too well.
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>>66257621
Could you revise all the myriad spelling errors?
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>>66257633
I know, but like, this guy with Horsemanship is pretty cool.
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>>66257669
Far as I can tell Fay Kings is not all that liked from a design perspective.
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>>66257673
They do when your commander Auto counters all spells cast for 0.
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>>66257686
Can’t argue with that, looks scary
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>>66257050
Not that, Anon, but you're just a bad. You suck at magic and are salty about it.

The deck mentioned in the anecdote isn't even a good or competitive commander deck. Yes, whoever pulled it out is a total shitlord for pubstomping noobs, but "super friends" is not a good or competitive build.

If you know basically anything about the format you'd know Atraxa is a shit commander. Tymna/Thrasios in their myriad of builds (e.g. Doomtide, Ad Nauseam) are FAR FAR better than any Atraxa deck. Partners are the most "broken" commander builds out there at the moment. Other competitive or "spikey" builds might be Kess, Bloodpod, or Teferi chain veil, but by and large Planeswalkers are pretty bad in commander. That's changing with War of the Spark, though. This set is really going to shake up the EDG metagame.
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>>66257788
>>66257050
Oof
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>>66257684
ok
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Is LotV worth running?
I use my own yard too much for RiP.
Anyone ever use this lad?
I'm not sure Bojuka Bog and Scavenger Grounds will do enough.
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>>66257901
Like all things, it depends on the playgroup.
Edh has a lot of recursion bouncing around so typically it's pretty safe to run a bojuka bog, but if you have graveyard commanders like karador or meren then you need dedicated hate.
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>Kefnet
>Bontu
>white Finale
>3 Domri 2 Bolas Citadel 2 Dreadhorde Arcanist
>no foil rare
I know the masterpiece Jace and Ugin are the reason I got this, but man was the box itself shit. Guess I'm still buying singles since I didn't pull anything for my decks
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>>66257788
>south american anon returns, trying to sound smarter than he really is
I was mocking that other retard for not understanding why spirit of the format is a real thing, and the superfriends guy was acting like a fat woman with a new clit piercing: they think it looks good, but it actually makes people want to curl their lips in disgust and walk away. You clearly have the same problem. cEDH rots brains, kids.
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>>66258009

>buying boxes for value

are you fuckin new
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THE HORROR
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my playgroup wants to play Oathbreaker. should i build Windgrace/Demonic Tutor Food Chain to prove to them that this is a bad idea?
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>>66258290
Yes.
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>>66256890
>TQ
No card should have a price higher than 3 dollars, this is a card game not a way to make money
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>>66258290
You're getting the beats this way. Go for Giddeon Blackblade with Armageddon.
That Windgrace won't hit the field, nerd.
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>>66258275
anon delet
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>>66258275
Would smash
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>>66258275
Would build a deck around.
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>>66258361
i mean of course he won't, i'll just win on turn 3 every game. he's just there for the colors.
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>>66258312

mtgfinance is a cancer that's slowly killing MtG
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>>66258431
You can't cast the signature spell without your commander on the board and your signature spell must have all the colors of your commander.

I don't even play this shitfest of a """format""" but at least I can familiarize myself with the free rules.

kys retard.
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>>66258481

>your signature spell must have all the colors of your commander

...no it doesn't? It only needs to fit in the commander's colour profile, like any other spell.
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>>66258481
that sounds tedious and shitty, why are people even playing this format?
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>>66258312
t. poorfag.
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>>66258495
Ok well time to kms, but you still need the commander on the board.

>>66258510
reddit
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>>66258431
>you can win by turn 3 without any command zone interaction
>somehow this makes the format bad

lel
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>>66258481
>your signature spell must have all the colors of your commander.

You learn the fucking rules, nigger.
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>>66258524
at that point why even play an alternative format? is legacy too hard for people?
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>>66258521

Well, yes. That's the point. If you could just cast it whenever, it'd just be a race to see who could cast their wincon quickest.
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>Oathbreakerfags
>Legacyfags
>Modernfags
I thought this was /edhg/, not /olmg/.
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>>66258549
cEDH retards go and stay gone. People are playing a casual game, with casual rules, to have fun. You do not need to optimize this.
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>>66256890
Blue is OP but it doesn’t bother me. I have a Naya deck, a 5-color, Grixis and Abzan, so I use Blue. It’s definitely OP.
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>>66258590
slows you down a turn, but you can still play a deck that's 90% dorks, 10% combos with like Garruk Relentless/Demonic Tutor and win turn 4
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>>66258639
huh? that's exactly what i'm saying, Oathbreaker as a format is just EDH moved closer to the competitive side. it's pointless, just let people play planeswalker commanders if that's what they want.
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is it possible to play voltron without any of the swords?
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>>66258641
i've found that blue is a lot better as a supporting color than the primary color of the deck. surprisingly, blue's card draw is a lot worse in this format than green, and about on par with black. monoblue decks also tend to struggle to close out games because a lot of the better combos in the format require black.
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>>66257427
How do I make this guy as human-focused as possible? Ninjas or something? Help a brotha out
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>>66258740
there are like 5 monoblue ninjas in all of magic

i suppose you could just play all the "pick a tribe" cards like Door of Destinies and Adaptive Automaton, but that won't get you super far.
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>>66258778
I’ll take bird people or djnnns or something (no furshit) I just want it to be like an army-ish deck. Summoning mad blue humans somehow? I’m about to look at scryfall for every blue card with “token” in the text
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>>66258808
you're in the wrong colors for that kinda stuff, but good luck my friend
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>>66258707
Yes but it’s even worse than usual
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>>66258821
I know, but an unblockable cabalry army sounds so dirty. There’s nothing I can do? ...except sea monster beat?
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>>66258899
i mean putting sea monsters on horses sounds like a good time
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>>66258955
>i mean putting sea monsters on horses sounds like a good time
That's how you get sea horses.
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>>66258899
It’s a hilarious image, just roll with it. There’s nothing dirty about making your 5+ cmc beaters harder to stop. Play tempest djinn too, he gets HUGE in commander
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>>66258707
yee
>uril the mist stalker
>bruna
>rafic
>Shu Yun the silent tempest
>mairsil

All decent and strong (part from Mairsil maybe) unless you're a cedh fag, and none of them need a sword
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>>66258707
the swords aren't really that insane in edh. if you want to voltron you should be looking to kill people. runechanter's pike or strata scythe.
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>>66259157
Embrace the jank side.
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>>66256890
>TQ
Combofags ruin the format. EDH is, by definition, casual leaning. But you really wouldn't be able to tell by the cookie cutter net decked combo lists you see at every LGS. They are not fun to pilot and they're not fun to play against. I didn't get into EDH to watch some neckbeard tryhard play solitaire till turn 4 and press the I win button.
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>>66256890
All constructed formats are degenerate. Limited is the heart and soul of the game.
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stop abusing her
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>>66259267
this seems like a bad combo
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>>66259210
what if the combo happens turn 10 after a long game of combat things happening? that's where my decks tend to lie
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>teferi temporal archmage is $60 now
>tfw had the possibility to get it for $8 back when kaladesh was released
>too stingy with money

I have regrets
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>>66257621
I see your decks and I put mine out as well
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>>66258707
See >>66257633
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What commander is a tutor-for-anything on a stick?
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>>66259316
There is actually nothing wrong with combo. Combo can be just as durdly and battlecruiser-tier as creature based strategies. You decide for yourself how much you tune the deck. Make a combo deck based around some obscure garbage tier 8 card combo and it'll suck just as bad as winconless timmy decks.

The point has always been to have decks with multiple strats and power levels. I own a decent boros angels/combat tricks deck, a pretty strong butcher of truth deck, a pretty strong kami of the crescent moon deck, a medium oloro deck, a weak thromok deck etc.

If you do this you always have a deck to play. Hell you can also just make a deck based around copying other people's shit, so that you're always at the same powerlevel.
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>>66259447
Sidisi.
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>>66259447
Mono black Sidisi?
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>>66259465
The mono-black one? I hate etb commanders desu
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>>66258275
Fix the face
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>>66256890
>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH or about Magic in general?
apparently, it's a controversial opinion that planeswalkers are, for the most part, really dull. 90% of the time it's just a stupid enchantment that dies in combat and generates some form of value every turn. i was hoping for cards that bend the rules of the game or facilitate interesting new deck archetypes, but all they do is draw cards and make tokens. b o r i n g.
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>>66259498
what do you mean? what are you looking to do?
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>>66259465
>>66259487
What about an activated ability that tutors creatures? Like that sliver thing but for anything.
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>>66256890
>TQ
Playing land destruction as a form of resource denial to disrupt your opponents is a completely legitimate strategy and people need to stop being butthurt.
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>>66256890
>TQ
tutors should be fucking banned
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>>66259576
I guess Yisan? But he doesn't just grab anything, you start at 1CMC for the first creature, then 2CMC, etc. There isn't a magical commander with a completely unlimited ability to grab any creature you want out of your deck to my knowledge.

If you want get spicy however, play Sliver Overlord with Conspiracy and Arcane Adaptation.
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>>66259576
there's captain sisay but that's only legendaries.
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>>66259684
Oooh....
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>>66259576
Activated is razaketh, but you could always try maralen with some source that prevents opponents from searching libraries, like ob nixilis.
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>>66259684
Any body here run this guy in the command zone? I have no doubt he's strong but I havn't seen any one play him.
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>>66259603
100% this. People who say you should only use it if you can win right after are idiots.

If some green player has ramped to 8 lands on turn 4 and I'm at 4 you better believe that I'm casting Armageddon before he can terastodon my shit or cast some other stupid big creature.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with this. It also shouldn't slow the game down much, literally just draw, play a land if you can and then pass. Takes no time at all.
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>>66259603
I play MLD on old Jhoira with suspend. My reasoning is that if people have 4 rounds to see it coming and to try to stop me, they'll ultimately be less salty about it. Hopefully.
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R8 my spec.
New ugin makes it 100% better.
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>>66258049

Are you poor?

t. Whale and member of Rudy's patreon.
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>>66259858
Idk but I’m about to. How much would a fully fleshed out mono black deck run me?
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>>66259858
yes. he's stupid strong, you just get into him with fast mana and black mana doublers and then from there you can chain shit through your whole deck into whatever combo you want. it's not cEDH level good but it's definitely beyond normal casual decks.
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>>66259858
neither have i
hes a fat fuck that costs too much
griselbrand wouldn't see play as a commander either for the same reason
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>>66259955
nah, it's stupid easy to get to 10+ mana in black really early. just do basic aristocrats stuff into an altar of some kind, then throw a few tokens under the bus, cast him, and go infinite with a reassembling skeleton or something.
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>>66257255

>Most stores in south america

You better be excluding Brazil, because we don't have this leviathan faggotry here.

Saturday is for showdown and draft.
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>>66259668
At least you can kinda cheat Yisan's counters with all the new proliferate stuff floating around from WotS.
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>>66259684
A few people in my local scene built him when he came out. He was able to go off quickly if he already had an established board and plenty of sac targets when he resolved but that tends to be easier in practice than reality.
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>>66260015
you can cheat on them already with basic untappy stuff
>activate Yisan, he goes to 1 counter, hold priority
>untap Yisan in response
>activate Yisan again, he goes to 2 counters
>let both resolve, fetching two 2-drops

this is the trick you use to double-fetch on 4 for your infinite combo
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>>66258290
Maybe ask Oathbreaker general.
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>>66260046
>but that tends to be easier in practice than reality.
have you never played against a tuned aristocrats deck? wrath all you want, they'll rebuild way faster than you.
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>>66260061
True, only mentioned proliferate since I run him as one of the 99 in Atraxa, which doesn't sport any sort of untap tricks.
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>>66260075
i don't think there is one
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>tfw built thrasios/ishai proliferate superfriends, but it's actual win con is killing people with animated lands

New Kiora is fucking great
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>>66256890
>TQ
THERE SHOULD BE NO BAN-LIST
You want to talk about "The Spirit of the Format"?
EDH is the logical conclusion to magic.
It feature *almost* every card ever printed and allows for the special consideration of a pet-card (the commander) and is a social game for any number of players.
You don't need playsets of shit, the variety is infinite with more than 2 players and a 100 card singleton deck format.
So why the fuck should shit be banned?
When I look at awesome, hilariously "OP" (not really) card like Balance, and I see the only format where it is "ok" is Vintage, where it's restricted, I get disgusted. Especially when it's so affordable.
I used to play 60 cards kitchen table games with my same playgroup going on 8 years now, we only switched to EDH 2 years ago.
When we played at my bud's kitchen table, there wasn't even a thought of something being "Banned".
A banlist is endemic of a game/format that both takes itself too seriously and thinks it has something to prove, despite EDH being touted as the "casual format" while simultaneously AND paradoxically being home to some of the most convoluted, bullshit high-power level shenanigans in the entire game.
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>>66260137
delicious low costed planeswalkers with passives
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>>66260102
Maybe your meta is different but my local scene is infested with gravehate and exile effects. Not saying that it's impossible for a good aristocrats deck to recover or pull off wins but I still don't think Razaketh is really very practical.
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Having a lot of fun brewing a GRW Riot/counters deck, since I randomly have a Doubling Season.
I fucking love Riot.
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>>66260176
i mean, any deck is gonna suck if the entire group is building specifically to hate on it. that says nothing about their practicality. Teferi is gonna look like a chump when facing 3 blue/island hate decks that keep countering all his spells and blowing up his artifacts and lands.
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>>66260149
If you have a playgroup that would welcome cards like Balance, you're free to overrule the banlist and play it anyway, with their permission.
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>>66260149
It's only affordable because it's banned. If it would get unbanned prices would skyrocket, since it'd be an autoinclude in every deck that runs white.
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>>66260241
it's not a RL card though, and that's actually not true.
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>>66258290
>>66260075
>>66260124
>>66260232
there is now lol
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>>66260241
Yeah my go-wide soldier tribal would certainly welcome playing Balance at any point in the game.
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>TQ
Play as hard as you can, play to have fun.

If you don't like loosing, git gud
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>Oathbreaker
>Brawl
>all those Planeswalker Commander decks
So, how long until the Rules Committee bows to the pressure and just allows planeswalkers to be commanders?
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>>66256890
>TQ
Winning is overrated and highly tuned decks aren't fun. I'm all about ridiculous combos and jank commander strategies.
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>>66259928
no just unlucky
my friend just pulled 6 mythics in his box, one was foil
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>>66260241
I already have outlawed the Banlist in my meta, and guess what: Nothing changed. I've got Balance and Channel in one deck, and I win just as much as I always have. And it is unanimously agreed that shit like Temporal Manipulation recurred more that once is "infinitely gayer."
My one friend who is an absolute pauper, nickel-bin shitter shoved his 6 copies of channel into several decks, and he still looses just as much as ever, because he's a shit player and can't politik.
Point is, the IDEA that there can be some authority dictating what can and cannot be played in a format where the only real stakes, baring tournaments, is bragging right is stupid as fuck.
Sure, channel has let me flex once or twice on the table, but I never made my game un-losable.
Nor has a clutch Balance made my opponents games unwinnable.
And both of those cards have been printed enough that prices would NEVER hit more that $10 a pop. At least after they were "unbanned"
The rules committee's reasons for why x & y are banned are always anecdotal, unsubstantiated opinion wankery and should NOT be given any credence whatsoever.
Shit like that is the same reasons there is a "Stigma" towards land destruction. Stop being a fucking faggot and learn to play better or build better. If it was printed by Wizards, it's legal to play. Full stop.
The fact that a banlist exists does more harm to the format than if none existed at all.
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>>66260350
Never
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>>66260367
Prime Time, Prophet, Sundering Titan, Leovold are all healthy bans.

Half the banlist is healthy, just about. The other half, just about, are banning stupid cards like shahrazad.

Ban Goblin Game.
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I want tuck to come back. Fight me
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Ban all cards except Krenko-like cards for this is /ElderKrenkoHighlanderGeneral/ or /ekhg/.
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>>66260414
The only one of those that should see any sort of restriction is Leovold, BANNED AS COMMANDER.
But in their infinite wisdom, the RC decided to scrap that sub-list as well.
They're a bunch of fucking idiots. If I sat down at a LGS and the guy across from me played a LEGIT Black Lotus on T1, I'd shake his fucking hand, not bitch about it being a banned card like some sort of ultra-cuck.
Every bit of banned cancer has a counterpart of equal or greater cancer that is un-banned.
You must have missed the recent bit where Sheldon said he'd rather unban time walk than either channel or balance.
Give me a fucking break.
At the end of the day, Magic is a TCG. So if I somehow come into a Tolarian Academy as a part of my collection, I'm going to fucking play it. I just don't have to be a complete faggot about it, which is a player issue, not a card issue.

Remember kids: Cards aren't faggots; PEOPLE are faggots.
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>>66260507

Lol kiddo you have no idea whose porch your pissin on here. Why don't you get to steppin before things get real? Real painful for your goblin fucking greasy fuckboi ass. This is my town.
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>>66260552
Heh. I'd punch him in the face and run away with the Lotus. Lol
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>>66260315
Of course it would. What if you get boardwiped? What if you play versus an early green rampnerd with double your lands? What if you get a great early start slamming out some artifacts and have a 3 cards hand with balance in it turn 3? Every deck has a use for balance, and yeah, some decks that build towards it are able to completely abuse it, but it's amazing in every deck as long as you're not retarded about when to play it.
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>>66260577
The real God of mtg is KRENKO. Krenko makes Xenagos look like a sissylesnya fuck-maid.
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>it's $30 now

wotc pls reprint
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>>66260601
Congrats on landing squarely in the "faggot" category.
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>>66260646
Most likely case? It'll be reprinted in a set where we see Liliana again, maybe a showdown featuring Garruk Chadman and the murderhobo Kaya attacking her.
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>>66260628
And for all of those situations, I could play the 2 mana more expensive Balancing Act from Odyssey, which hasn't made even a blip on the banlist. And guess what, nearly no one plays it.
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>>66260414
Free Prophet
Free Primetime
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a guy i played against bitched about losing after i combo'd off in monowhite on turn 7 or 8. it was like a 5 card combo requiring Panharmonicon, and it's not really the main focus of the deck anyway.

why do people get so pissy when they lose?
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>>66260646
Cry moar faggot.
Should have bought it when it was considered a bin rare.
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>>66260714
I've experienced the same behaviour and it's most likely that he's salty because he was about to win on his turn
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>>66260674
Balancing act is far less abusable than balance, what the fuck are you on about? Also in early game scenarios, which I mentioned, paying double the mana is an issue, yes.

Mana cost matters in power level. Otherwise fucking time walk and time warp would be equally bannable, obviously that's retarded.
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>>66260674
>early artifacts
>balancing act works just as well
Read the card anon
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>>66260628
>>66260674
Also you're painting idealistic scenarios much? What if I open with Sol Ring, Mana Crypt, Mountain, Wheel of Fortune. Let's ban wheels!
Balance is very strong. But so is Demonic Tutor, Necropotence, Stasis, Natural Order, Mana Drain, Mishra's Workshop... and those cards win you the game much more.
>>66260781
>far less abusable
I disagree. Greater Gargadon, sac everything, Balancing Act. Can't dodge that with artifacts/enchantments.
Time Walk is more of a financial ban than anything. There's a legal Time Walk with Miracle anyway (because you totally wouldn't play a Time Walk if you drew one).
>>66260817
Your opponents have early artifacts too you cuck
I'm glad that you realize that fast artifact mana is the real issue with the format and what should get the actual banhammer
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>>66256890
>about EDH
It's better to not be able to play than to have to play with randoms.

>about Magic in general
Magic is probably the simplest and most luck-based out of the major TCGs, and with the least variety in both mechanical design of competitively or semi-competitively viable cards and in aesthetic design. The game isn't bad, but it's not the best either.
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>playing against a decently tuned Muldrotha and two random shit draft chaff decks
>target Muldrotha's stuff because he's definitely the bigger threat
>manage to kill him, then the other two soon after
>Muldrotha opponent tells me i have "bad threat assessment" and that i was "underestimating" the other two players
if you're my strongest opponent, why get upset when i target you?
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>>66260864
Dodging balance with artifacts and enchantments is the point, what the fuck anon? And while opponents might get out an early sol ring or signet, maybe even a mana crypt, decks running balance or even relying on it for early dominance would run far more early shit than that, greatly skewing the chances in its own favor, especially in a multiplayer format.
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>>66256949
çontrolfag here
i find it lots of fun to try and stabilise and fight off a relentless group of opponents
i don't understand how playing and winning the exact same way every game could possibly be enjoyable ie combo
stax is annoying but can be dealt with
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>>66260633
>The real God of mtg is KRENKO
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>>66260898
>dodging balance with artifacts and enchantments is the point
Not quite the point if your opponents can dodge it the same way. Is it stronger than its tamer version? Of course. I'd argue that it's "broken" but in no fucking way is it broken than the myriad of other shit running in the format, especially 1B: Any Card I Fucking Want. Other colors are allowed to screw destiny with their broken shit, but once the talk comes to white's one token busted sorcery, everybody's suddenly up in arms about it. As I said, you get effectively the same result as Balance in terms of screwing others early with fast mana into a wheel... and wheel is never a dead draw unlike Balance.
>if you build your deck around this card, then it's broken
Then let's ban Ad Nauseam, Isochron Scepter, Razaketh...
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>>66256890
reposting from the lore thread
>i want snow to come back(iceage was my favorite childhood set)

>i want sets to revolve around people in the plane like they used to

>return sets would be fine if no gatewatch was involved

>gimme cthulu mommy (marit lage)

>no diversity characters for the sake of diversity, they have to make sense in their setting

>want weird abstract art to comeback

>mythics should be reserved for weird niche cards, not standard/modern staples

>make commons/uncommons great again

>reduce the ammount of artifacts and planeswalkers

>non-humanoid planeswalkers pls

>timespiral is my favorite block, gimme nostalgia and colorshifted weird shit

as for edh

>remove banlist
>wotc products are bad for the format
>so are edh and tappedout a little
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>>66261041
>>wotc products are bad for the format
So are you only planning on playing with yugioh cards or something instead?
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>>66261013
Fair enough. Personally I don't believe the banlist should exist at all, since the reasoning behind it is retarded and contradictory anyway.
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>>66261041
Too bad diversity for the sake of diversity is all we have, since homophobia has been declared not canon in the multiverse.
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>>66261041
>wotc products are bad for the format
>magic is bad for magic
Unironically based
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>>66259267
Seems like too much work for not nearly enough payoff.
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>>66261080
nigger you know what i ment
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>>66256890
TQ: Unless you are making explosive plays, have short games or have ways to mitigate it, Ancient Tomb doesn’t belong in every deck.
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Ok /edhg/, if someone were to show up at your playgroup/lgs/whatever for a game of commander and told you that they have proxies in their deck, but they also have the real cards with them in a binder, because they don't want to buy expensive staples multiple times for the multiple decks that use them, would you be ok with this? If not, would you give them the time to put the real cards in the sleeves instead of the proxies?
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>>66260871
>Win a game
>Someone tells me I have bad threat assessment
Shit makes me laugh whenever it happens. Like nigga I won my threat assessment was perfect.
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>>66261414
I wouldn't care if they showed up with a 100% proxied deck even if they didn't own the cards as long as they're not being a fag.
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>>66259210
>They are not fun to pilot and they're not fun to play against.
But that's wrong. I love playing and playing against them. There are very few deck types I don't enjoy playing and playing against. Even stax is fun. I love when someone brings a stax or combo deck to the table and I have to navigate the stax puzzle and prevent a lockout or I have to choose my targets carefully when playing against combo. And the format was originally made with combos in mind. It was the format of judges who wanted dick around with interactions that don't come up in other formats. Combos are a part of that same as anything else.
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>>66259984
He's honestly better in the 99 where you can dump and reanimate him instead of having to hardcast him from the command zone. No matter how easy it is to ramp with Coffers or other black ramp, it will always be easier to tutor up Entomb and Reanimate to get him for a total of two mana.
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>>66261414
This >>66261578
We operate on rule of cool (the other one). Be cool about shit and we'll be cool with you. Be a fag and you don't get to hang.
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>>66259447
Razaketh
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>>66261041
I was with you until the EDH shit.
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>What's your most controversial opinion about EDH?
There should be a simple point-buy list for cards that are obnoxious but not obnoxious enough to be banned outright. i.e.
>You may only run up to three of the following cards in any deck:
>Sol Ring
>Demonic Tutor
>Enlightened Tutor
>Mystical Tutor
>Necropotence
>Armageddon
>Palinchron
>Hermit Druid
>Doomsday
>Tooth and Nail
>Iona, Shield of Emeria
>Ravages of War
>Humility
>Mindslaver
>Expropriate
>Laboratory Maniac
>Jace, Wielder of Mysteries
>Mana Crypt
>Mana Vault
>Grim Monolith
>Food Chain
>Stasis
>Winter Orb
>Cyclonic Rift
>Static Orb
>Paradox Engine
>Time Warp
>Temporal Manipulation
>Time Stretch

I think >90% decks I've played with or against would be legal in such a format, but I honestly think this would improve the health of the format.
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>>66262292
play stranglehold
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>>66262292
Most retarded thing I've ever read. Learn to put some removal in your deck.
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>>66262292
>>Jace, Wielder of Mysteries

Whew lad
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>>66262292
>no capsize/reiterate
>new jace
Oh you better believe Im laughing anon, here is your (you)
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>>66262292
“I don’t run removal” the post
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>>66262292
No Great Whale? Lol
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Gideon deserved better.
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Is this fun? I haven't played MTG since 2007, and the last TCG I played with was FoW.
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>>66262490
Eh, if you're gonna hit labman, might as well get the new jace, otherwise it defeats the point of the point-buy.
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>>66262877
what do you like to do in MTG?
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>>66262877
Most of the time, yes. As long as you find good people to play with you can have a lot of fun. edh/commander gives you a lot of freedom to play wacky shit. Games can be longer than other types of mtg games.
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>>66262877
EDH is pretty fun so long as you can get a good group. Playing with randoms is a huge gamble with the levels of bullshit and tryhardness that's possible.
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>>66262935
I usually played Green decks with big creatures, or plains decks that were awful with slow builds.
>>66262944
Only have one friend that'd be interested in it, but there's a local scene at a few places for it.
>>66262952
What's 'EDH'?
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>>66262292
>doesn't include Mana Drain
kys
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>>66262982
n'alright. is there a legendary creature you own that's basically your favorite?
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Glacial Chasm prevents Commander Damage from being marked, right?
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>>66262982
>I usually played Green decks with big creatures, or plains decks that were awful with slow builds.
Big green creature decks are definitely something you can do in Commander. If you want to play purely green and not mix colors I'd look into building Omnath, Locus of Mana, Goreclaw, and Ghalta.

>What's 'EDH'?
Elder Dragon Highlander. EDH and Commander are two names for the same format.
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>>66258039
Don't know what you're talking about. Not South American Anon. Never been and no plans to go. In fact, I haven't even visited /edhg/ for the better part of a year because I've been busy with other fa/tg/uy hobbies. Just been dipping my nose back into magic for another cycle, been scraping up some singles and snagged a couple Mythic Spark boxes during the ebay fiasco so I've got the MtG itch again.

The superfriends guy sounds like a real piece of work, but you sound like a real baby back bitchlet.
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>>66263022
All of my Magic cards were either left in storage back home with my folks, or at their place. Not really in a capacity to get them, so I basically have to start over.
>>66263040
>Big green creature decks are definitely something you can do in Commander. If you want to play purely green and not mix colors I'd look into building Omnath, Locus of Mana, Goreclaw, and Ghalta.
I kind of want to stay mono colored with my decks for now, since I usually did that way back when and such.
>Elder Dragon Highlander. EDH and Commander are two names for the same format.
Oh, I see.
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>>66263027
The damage is prevented, so yes, the Commander Damage total isn't increased. The only real exception to this is Platinum Emperion, the Commander Damage is still counted, it just doesn't cause loss of life.
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>>66263119
do you like having one big-ass creature, a swarm of small ones, or something in the middle? there are commanders who enjoy wide strategies and tall strategies alike.
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>>66263183
I usually go for the big singular creatures and such. But it's been so long so I've played, it's hard remembering what all I used to run with it. With FoW, I generally ran a Knights of the Round Table deck R/W with mostly middling creatures in it, and the goal was to basically spam them out as quick as possible to overwhelm the opponent with their annoying abilities, which I found fun and such.
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>>66263300
you like having annoying things, then? you may want to read up on the Stax archetype. they're very annoying

if you want the fucking tallest shit though just run Ghalta or the newest Selvala if you're a rich man
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>>66263300
Are you a sissy?

If so, Selesnya is here for you!
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>>66263300
What kind of budget are you working with?
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>>66263422
>>66262292
>>66262853
>>66260507
Memes
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>>66263356
I'll do that. I've been wanting to get back into a card game, and Commander does sound kind of fun and such. But thank you for for the responses and such, I really do appreciate it.
>>66263442
Don't want to go all in with starting again, but I don't know really how much to spend on this starting out in the first place.
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>>66263469
you really do need to get your old cards. there's no greater joy in commander than whipping something up out of scraps in your collection
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>>66263469
That's probably a good approach to have, you don't really need to go all in. I suppose you could try to get your old cards if you can, then you can look up/ask about different commanders that you're interested in/looking for, then set a budget for what you want. When building a deck be sure to have a good mana base/mana rocks.
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>>66257559
Only if you don't play with autists.
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>>66261939
we can still be frens
>>66261234
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>>66263499
That's a few states away, and I only usually visit during the Holiday times towards the end of the year.
>>66263545
Going to try looking through those resources a bit more and see what people like to recommend for beginners in general to start building. Will probably just look through some of them and go off one for now, and just slowly edit it over time, if I find some things I like.
Thanks again for the help.
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>>66263690
well, you have a mission on your next holiday. odds are you have some powerful shit in there, depending on when you started playing
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>>66263690
Give a timeframe for when you played and we can give you some heads up on what specific cards to look for.
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>>66256890
TQ I'm ok with mana seeding as long as you shuffle your deck some after
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>>66263803
That's literally cheating though, just saying. You do what you want; I just want to point that out.
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>>66263690
You're welcome. Don't be afraid to ask questions if you have any.
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What are you guys views on cEDH.

I try to understand why people hate it so much but I don't really get it. I mean, I still have my casual fun decks that I like to play, but cEDH is so much fun. Is it just that people at your LGS ruined it for you?
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>>66264125
It's alright.
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>>66264125
It's honestly fine, we just have a few autistic shits who hate other people having fun, and need to justify why their terrible deck isn't terrible.

"Muh spirit of the format" people, on the other hand, are absolutely worth avoiding. It'll inevitably devolve into petty bickering about their feelings whenever they lose or whenever someone thwarts their obvious plans. cEDH fags might be autistic, but they genuinely love magic for the most part and don't give a shit about your degenerate synergies or power plays.
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>>66264125
>What are you guys views on cEDH.
it's dulllllllllll
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>>66261041
>>wotc products are bad for the format
This is undeniably true though
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>>66260552
You seem like a very angry and edgy person.
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>>66264125
cedh is a playstyle where you show each other ways you found to abuse mana crypt and the lax mulligan rules most edh groups play with. I like playing against my playgroups cedh decks but the winner is usually decided by who was able to capitalize on some stupid play like a 7 mana sorcery on t2.
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>>66260137
>Could always use a cheap untapper
>but the deck won't make use of her passive
>pw abilities are once a turn anyway

hm.
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>>66264125
cEDH is not everyone's bag, which I can respect. It's fun for some while others don't like how cutthroat it can be.

cEDH players tend to be the most chill on average and are less likely to be complete douchebags than casual EDH players. I've played quite extensively with both and not a single cEDH player has crossed the line with me, while I've had one physical assault by an EDH player myself, two have killed the EDH scene entirely at their shops, and two others have been permabanned for their behavior from their LGS. I play with both types of playstyles but every week I'm pushed a little more towards just one.
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>>66260646
Reprint M20.
SCREENCAP THIS
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>>66264647
See, I've had the opposite experience, where anybody who takes 'cEDH' seriously is a raging turbo-autist who can't barely handle being told to wash themselves. It's the casuals in my area who are the chill ones, because they don't take everything super seriously and know how to relax and have fun.
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Is this good anti-token secret tech?
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>>66264735
Forgot image durr.
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>>66264735
>>66264750
it's pretty bad. it's 4 mana and it doesn't really do anything. you should just play ghostly prison and elesh norn.
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>>66264721
Weird. I've been to about 4-5 different cities with EDH going on and really never ran into much trouble with the cEDH crowd, only the tryhards who wanted to be cEDH but were just awful and the casuals who would screech if you didn't let them durdle for 30 turns without interaction.
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>>66264750
In a way, yes. One of the good things is that it's very selective. It doesn't cripple a token player unless you want it to, which makes it an effective political tool. Now the token player isn't incentivized to focus you down, they're incentivized to keep playing but pick other targets.
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>>66264799
It's a little different from prison as this lets you swing in on a token deck whereas prison only protects you from token spam, generally, and is cheaper than Elesh Norn, but I do agree it's not great.

>>66264750
I'd say it's pretty weak overall. It takes a full round after it drops for it to matter and is the easiest permanent to remove from the board, so it will probably never pay off in any meaningful way.
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>>66264850
>It's a little different from prison as this lets you swing in on a token deck whereas prison only protects you from token spam, generally, and is cheaper than Elesh Norn, but I do agree it's not great.
the real key here is that it does lots of different things...but it doesn't really do anything well.
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>>66264125
It's a great little sub-format if everyone at the table knows what they're getting into and is playing an appropriately powerful deck. I don't own a cEDH deck myself but every other weekend I go over to my buds place and borrow his gitrog dredge deck or mizzix combo deck and it's a fun change of pace.

I suspect most of the time you hear people screeching over cEDH, it's probably because they've got 1 or 2 spergs at their LGS who insist on playing their cEDH deck in more casual pods.
Online, it doesn't help the general perception of cEDH and those that play it when you always have that one guy who insists that anyone not playing a highly tuned EDH deck is a scrub and should just git gud. I'd be willing to bet a good 90% of cEDHfags are fine people, but a vocal few being assholes can really cement a general perception of them all as bad apples.
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>>66264805
On the one hand, I want to believe you, because playing cEDH might actually be interesting if the people who play it weren't such inbreds. On the other hand, cEDH inbreds.
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>>66264735
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>>66264735
>>66264750
Not amazing but definitely secret and fun. My favorite MtG art as well, honestly.
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>>66256890
>TQ
My most controversial opinion is that EDH is best format because it has room for Craw Wurm, shit jank, good jank, Doomsdays and T0 Flash Hulks and everything in between and variety of different strategies.
Everything is fine, is it combo, stax, aggro or something else entirely.
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>>66256890
>TQ
I believe the starting life total should be lowered to 30 so that aggro has more of a fighting chance in multiplayer. Combo doesn't care about life totals, control/stax will eventually get there regardless, but aggro gets fucked by having to chew through 120 life without infect or commander damage.
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Voltron might suck, but damn is it fun.
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>>66256890
>TQ
Mana burn should come back. It brings an inherent risk into fast mana and infinite combos and forces you to build around them to an extent rather than shoving them into anything.
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>>66260149
>>66260367
I wholeheartedly agree with this. The banlist should only be utilized if the LGS is running a commander event. Otherwise, in playgroups it's kind of retarded to include.
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>>66266175
I want a Gruul Commander that brings back asymmetric mana burn.
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>>66266146
>>66266175
>>66258312
>>66259235
Shit
>>66260356
>>66260149
>>66259603
>>66257070
>>66257231
Patrician and good.
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>>66265665
>t. combofaggot
Combo is "not" fine.
Literally a mistake because of "formats"
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>>66266175
I'm guessing you want ante as well then if we're talking about bad magic mechanics.
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>>66266168
What were they thinking? Flying, Infect, Haste, and Regerate all on the same creature?
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>>66266146
>aggro gets fucked by having to chew through 120 life
Lol no sweetie.
Aggro only needs to deal 40 damage.
>>66266295
Gotta go fast!
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>>66266295
They wanted you to have a tactical nuclear warhead.
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Is Hedron Archive playable?
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>>66256890
>TQ
i am wholly for the unbanning of library of alexandria
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>>66266443
I can think of worse ways to get mana and draw cards. Still not as good as Mind Stone though.
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>>66264125
I certainly find it very fascinating, trying to build this super efficient 100card singleton deck seems like a fun challenge and if everyone's on the same page then in an ideal world people won't get salty if you're just trying to win. Nobody in my playgroup runs actual tier-1 cEDH decks but we certainly all have our decks that try to win in the most cutthroat way and playing those against each other is always a fun change of pace compared to games to go past turn 10.

What I find funny is that the people who complain about 'cEDH' will often times do so at plays that are too splashy and battlecruiser-y for actual cEDH, at least in my experience.

Once I have the budget for it I will invest in a super degenerate cEDH deck of sorts or at least look into a budget build that can hold its own in a very competitive meta.

tl;dr cEDH is a cool guy, eh wins with labman and doesn't afreid of anything.
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>>66266482
>eh wins with labman
There is nothing cool about running the most boring wincon ever printed.
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>>66266499
Still better than Approach -> tutor -> Approach. That's straight-up the gayest wincon ever.
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>>66266546
Not him but I would genuinely rather lose to that than literally any lab man combo
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>>66266546
I can agree with this.
I'm not against cEDH, mind you. It's not my cup of tea, but Labman wins are up there in my list of wow what a boring way to win.
There's a guy I play with that just puts Aetherflux in all his decks and it's just so tiresome always holding a piece of removal for that shit.
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Any anons wanna share their Maelstrom Wanderer decks with me?
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>>66266595
1x Maelstrom Wanderer
1x Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker
1x Pestermite
32x Island
33x Mountain
32x Forest
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>>66266546
>Approach is 7 mana.
>Casting it twice in one turn.
>Plus the cost of the tutor.
If someone has access to 14+ mana in one turn and no one else can do anything to stop it, they deserve to win. Labman wins can be done way cheaper and being in blue means it has way more protection built into the color.
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>>66266595
I'm also building wanderer. Turning Yidris into wanderer so fags on /edhg/ stop making fun of me for having made-for-commander legends, and looking for any super secret tech the men here have.

Also interested in anybodys Sea Creatures lists or Spider tribal if they want to share
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>>66266817
>Turning Yidris into wanderer so fags on /edhg/ stop making fun of me for having made-for-commander legends
Good on you mate.
>Sea Creatures
Braids and a pile of big stuff.
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>>66266595
I don't have a decklist but I run him as a Temur Tokens commander with Brudiclad a Plan B. It's pretty bare basic: run etb dudes, clone effects, some walkers like Saheeli v1 and Xenagos, Purph-Man and a bunch of cards that care about tokens.
So far it had two big plays: Rite of Replication kicked on Precursor Golem with Impact Tremors out.TWICE.
And secondly, Brudiclad making copies of 11/11 Ulvenwald Hydras thanks to Progenitor Mimic with Pathbreaker Ibex coming in from a MW hit.
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>>66266817
>>66266844
As though fucking Wanderer wasn't made with Commander in mind. The fat fuck got put in Commander's Arsenal.
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>play this against friends turbo tokens deck
>get him to attack me with over 100 tokens
>block and fling Fumiko at him
Why did no one tell me this was so much fun?
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>>66266898
Commander wasn't even a relevant thing during Alara you idiot.
Was Scroll Rack made with Commander in mind? It was in Arsenal too.

Stupid fuck.
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>>66266929
>Alara
Bad news, chief.
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>>66266929
>tfw Oros the Avenger was the only Mardu option at the time
>it was a mishmash of bombs like Storm Herd, Bogardan Hellkite, Vicious Shadows, and Plague Wind and it never got shit over it
>playing a 6/6 Dragon with a weird ability felt like the best thing
>tfw I'll never experience pre-Zendikar EDH ever again
I genuinely miss those days
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>>66266951
My bad, I thought he came out with the Alara era Planechase stuff.
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>>66266994
Any cool shit I can do with Oboro, Palace in the Clouds in Bant? It's been sitting in my binder forever and I'm considering selling it if I can't find a use for it.
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>>66266499
>>66266570
>>66266572

And I fully agree with you, but being competitive isn't about being "creative" but rather being efficient. Why get buttblasted over a fucking wincon? In the end it's the same as being killed by Mike + Trike or Exquisite Blood + Sanguine bond.

Lmao just run Sudden Spoiling and labman can't do shit.
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>>66266994
I think it ought to be telling that the 2012 era Planechase decks were all helmed by a Legendary creature. With the Commander preconds already under their belt this time, it was definitely past the point where R&D were blissfully designing Legendary creatures without any thought put towards EDH. Anyone that would complain about, say, The Mimeoplasm being designed for Commander but not Muldrotha is just being willfully ignorant in my book.
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>>66267088
>Anyone that would complain about, say, The Mimeoplasm being designed for Commander but not Muldrotha is just being willfully ignorant in my book.
And you'd be right
Cards made for commander in non-commander sets are pretty obvious
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>>66267004
Tatyova to draw a bunch of cards.
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>>66267135
Although, I should also mention I also don't care much for anyone that would complain about people using Legendary creatures designed for Commander to begin with.
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>>66267135
>>66267088
Muldrotha is made for limited.
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>>66267247
>Mythic rare
>3 colors
>Made for limited
How stupid can one be?
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>>66267274
But Anon, wizards makes cards for the draft and sealed environments, they said so
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>>66267293
They also make cards for various constructed formats. They said so.
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>>66267247
>>66267293
I imagine you think this is clever.
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>>66267247
Muldrotha is made for Mimeo dick.
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>>66264125
I hate the financial barrier. Not even poor but fuck paying 500 bucks for a Crypt, Diamond, Monolith etc. without which the format is unplayable, and with them it's just a more boring knockoff of regular EDH with a smaller viable card pool.
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>>66266295
>What were they thinking? Flying, Infect, Haste, and Regerate all on the same creature?
It's from the same block as Wurmcoil and Obliterator, you tell me. Wizards were tripping on some serious power creep bs back then.
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What the fuck were they thinking with this joke of a format? Oathbreaker is going to die in a couple of months just like brawl.
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>>66267782
>When was Oathbreaker pulled from the Aether? In March of 2017, as the Gatewatch prepared to face Tezzeret and Nicol Bolas, the Oathfather began devising a new format that highlighted the powers of the Planeswalkers. After seeking the council of other Planeswalkers, Oathbreaker began taking form. In June of 2017 the first games were played, leading us to the format that we have now: Planeswalkers breaking the oaths they took to protect the people of the multiverse to fight each other.
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>>66267782
Nah, it's mainstream now thanks to the gay /lit/ dude
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>>66267782
They're testing out partner instants and sorceries.
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>>66267782
To be fair, the base idea is nice and flavorful
But since people are tryhards, it can't work and will quickly degenerate (it already has)
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>>66267798
>this was written by adults
I really don't get it.
I hope it dies.
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>>66267832
It's PR, written to attract players, not to give autistic fucks peace of mind.
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>>66267782
>Erayo is legal
>Prophet of Kruphix is legal
>Leo is legal
People will turn on this in half a year.
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>>66267782
Brawl was just poorly though out, they didn't even account for the fact that you couldn't play colorless commanders since Wastes were illegal and just went "lol just use whatever"
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Does anyone know effective ways to return instants and sorceries to my hand as G/W?
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>>66267864
E-wit
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>>66267847
>Erayo legal
HOLY SHIT
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>>66267863
>they didn't even account for the fact that you couldn't play colorless commanders since Wastes were illegal and just went "lol just use whatever"
There were plenty of colorless lands that you could use, actually. The only problem would have been with rotation and if the number of colorless lands dropped significantly.
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>>66267864
Regrow, E witness, Recollext, Restock, Nostalgic Dreams.
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>>66267913
I doubt Standard had at least 20 cards in rotation that only tapped for colorless.
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>salty boys talking about the hot new fotm format that always gets played by fad freakers instead of how nice it is to play solring om turn 1
You've gotten gayer /edhg/
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>>66267935
If I remember correctly there were 18 colorless non-basic lands at the time Brawl was introduced.
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>>66267995
>Turn 1 Sol Ring
It's banned in the best version of EDH (that's one of the reason it's the best)
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M20 will be the new "origins" set
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>>66263102
Ebay fiasco? I just got back in as well, what happened?
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>>66268388
WotC made a premium box with a promo JTMS and Ugin, sold them via Ebay for some reason, the site burned down in a few minutes after the sale started, people could buy boxes that weren't there, ebay had to refund everyone who couldn't get one, WotC is now giving uncut sheets to people who got fucked by it.
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>>66268048
>M20 will be the new "garruk" set
Fixed
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>>66268462
To be fair this shit on eBay was better than when they tried to sell it themselves.

Really to fix this they need to stop doing such limited print runs, or do it by units ordered in a certain time frame rather than a fixed amount.

They can still have limited edition product if they sell it for one day only, and just print enough to fill those orders. That's win/win.
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>>66268488
They had more boxes unsold the last time, so they undercut themselves again. The problem is that they didn't understand that the previous one had shit promos and this one had fucking Ugin and JTMS.
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>>66268647
>WotC logic
>Lets make $3,000,000
>30,000 people get screwed
>Print more Mythic Editions and make an additional $7,500,000
>lol noway spend 300,000 on an apology
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>>66269163
They can't make more, they marketed it as a limited edition print with only a certain amount of available. If they made more they could have a class action lawsuit on their hands.
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>>66269439
>"""""investors""""" unironically believe this.
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>>66269439
Limited run print can literally mean anything, brainlet.
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>>66269729
They explicitly stated 12,000 units on the announcement.
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>>66268462
How much is a sheet even worth? Is it foil?
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