Buy some Titans, Blow some shit up, Make some memories Edition>VoxCast – Episode 12: Alexander Tuxfordhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR09k5RofzY >Chaos Knights, Admech transport, Aeronautica Imperialis, and low-skill paintshttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/05/10/warhammer-fest-uk-2019-live-bloggw-homepage-post-3fw-homepage-post-1/>Downloads; Rules Errata and FAQs:https://www.warhammer-community.com/downloads/https://www.warhammer-community.com/faqs/>Book Megas:https://mega.nz/#F!9NchGZyZ!-V1LhJALxDp9Tw97WzEQGAhttps://mega.nz/#!QqBkWByb!Uc39uN2gJ3CxsqaXf2mACDY2Y197BtFVCqvuKeOXm0ohttps://mega.nz/#F!q84BWKiL!CN6kasdx1Pyshfga_UzuEQhttps://mega.nz/#F!SJ8VFJxC!V2rD0wWIO4ye10AZ9PDzMg>Mathhammer:Codex:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14wC7pS7shKfOLiuM18c3CpaA_G3JRo9LxV_Xd0vBfAg/Forgeworld:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nSWZEyt0X6pfXvdVmPDjKpXtAqjjfiPvSTUaRWO8PTE/Other: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19Zdiv_x8Q3sKIL2z7-BoEzyQpCIp22l4bA_3OpOTaxE/htmlview>Previous:>>66243141
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>>66245348First for the Omnissiah
Just a heads-up, Ulisses Spiele appears to have lost the 40k license. You can no longer purchase W&G, Dark Heresy, Deathwatch, etc. through DriveThruRpg.They were no-shows at Warhammer Fest as well.
>>66245342Either Pay 2 CP and save 85 points, see what the enemy brings and take the assassin which best suits you, or bring a vanguard detachment (no cp given unless you specifically bring one of each assassin but no -2 CP). In the vanguard shore up your army's weakest points. If you lack character sniping, taking a vindicare or two is never a bad choice, Culexus are great anti psyker and objective contester and Callidus completely ruin some armies turn 1/2 by forcing half their stratagems to pay 1 extra CP or do nothing.I wouldnt take an Eversor in Space Marines mostly because hes best at killing what Intercessors are killing, Ork Boyz, Guardsmen etc. Good choices would 2x Vindicare 1x Callidus if you dont run into any Psykers, and 1x of Vindicare, Callidus and Culexus if you do.
Likely outcomes of contrast>people with 0 painted models won't have a painted army>people who are scared to paint might try to use contrast and will probably flub and give up on their first try>people with 10 excellently painted models and the rest primed will likely not touch contrast>people that have painted armies will use contrast when they start a horde army if they don't already own an airbrush
>>66245450Sounds about right. Though I think they might have some blending or wash utility.
>>66245422Thanks sir, the one issue I have is I'm not sure what the purpose of the Callidus is. I read a little about the Assassinoriou during my lunch hour after reading some lore but I havent figured out what they are meant to deal with.
>>66245450Nothing wrong with that
What's your thoughts on this badboy lads?Viable at all or just fun?Love the model, thinking of plugging him into a wraithbased Eldar army
Hey guys, thinking about getting back in the game. How are Legion of the Damned faring this edition?
>>66245450The only contrast that might be useful is flesh tone. I always prime grey and start painting faces with a wash of thinned flesh paint anyway. I doubt the difference is going to be noticeable enough to make retarded GW markup prices worth it either way though.
>>66245450>Actual good painters try out Contrast in completely different ways from what's advertised>Some of the contrast paints end up being surprisingly helpful for some niche useGoing off some claims that the Iron Golem models' red armor is actually red Contrast over gold, I'm going to say they'll be great for pre-heresy thousand sons.
>>66245473In game or in fluff?
>>66245527If that's true I can get a really good look on my brass scorpion without an airbrush then.
>>66245473First off, heres the index: https://imgur.com/a/kgH6ycq The Callidus' use on the tabletop is quite passive until turn 3. Generally what you want to do is keep the Callidus hidden and protected to make use of their ability "Reign of Confusion", which means that whenever an opponent spends CP (this includes command point rerolls), on a 4+ from you they have to spend an extra CP or cancel their CP usage. This effectively doubles the cost of a lot of stratagems and make things seem much less worth it.With "Supreme Deception", you can do this two battle rounds in a row. I have completely crumbled GSC armies because their CP intensive combos cost them an extra 3 or 4 CP and denied them a few of their CP rerolls.
>>66245504They do not exist this edition. Run them as deathwatch.
>>66245504Terrible. They're sternguard with built in storm shields, they have to arrive via deepstrike, they have to be in a seperate detachment, and they get no chapter tactics
>>66245504Anon...Sit downWe need to talk
Summoning needs to differentiate itself from deepstrike before it will ever be useful. Summoning also seems redundant for a lot of units that are fast like slaanesh. Giving God related play styles summoning would help imo. >nurgle summoning: 2 cp:mark a point within 3 inches of a character that has the <nurgle mark> or no <mark>, that character suffers d3 mortal wounds. for the rest of the game a unit of 10 plague bearers can appear from this point, or 10 plague bearers may be added to any existing unit of 20 or less plague bearers. The unit if plague bearers must be setup wholy within 6 inches if this point (the plague bearers do not count for reinforcement points)>this only costs 1cp if each unit in your army shares the nurgle keyword>slaanesh summoning: 1cp. before the first turn but after deployment, you may make 1 summon for each character with the <slaanesh mark or no defined mark>. This unit must summon a daemon with <slaanesh>, and may add 1d6 to their summon roll if their army has the slaanesh keyword. This summoned unit may then move up to its full distance but cannot advance. If their army has the slaanesh keyword, this unit may charge any unit outside the deployment zoneI still need to work off of tzeentch and khorne, any suggestions are appreciated.
>>66245611Maybe should add a "you may only use this power once, unless your entire army has the nurgle mark, in which case you may use this 3 times".But that miiiiiight be a little extreme.
>>66245348>building rhino>tracks aren't locked in place like new vehicle kits, have to play it by earfuck this kit
>>66245556It's likely that it is true. Judging by the arms, this was painted by the GW team, not the FW one, and while the GW team do occasionally use paints outside their range, a lot of them are involved in developing it, so they're biased towards basing color schemes on paints they actually make. We know contrast paints basically use ink-like transparent pigments, making them well-suited to the kind of paintjob they've done here.Basically, contrast opens a lot of possibilities for people with limited paint selection, for example the ones who have terrible online shopping infrastructure but an LGS that stocks GW nearby.
>>66245671Iirc build the upper tracks first before placing the lower track. You want to dry fit it or else there will be a gap. You can also sand a block of sprue and make a connection for the gap like it's a patchwork.
>>66245671Are you 9 years old?
>>66245671>Built a rhino a couple of weeks ago>There are tabs that are specifically there to lock the tracks into placeAre you on drugs?
>>66245723Not him but the guide actually tells you to build it in the wrong order.
>>66245671it's easy as fuck after the first track. Do it from top to bottom, look at the pictures in the guide and you can't fuck it up.
>>66245755>needing a guide to build a metal boxWEW
>>66245671Was lego too difficult for you or something?
>>66245671Luckily for you anon, GW carries a line of ETB (that's Easy...to...build) just for folks like you.
>not being able to build a rhino body in your sleep at this point>not dreaming of the day that piece of shit gets retired anyway
>>66245407Fuck dude! Say it ain’t so.
>>66245407LOLwang shills on suicide watch
>>66245654Oh wait I think I got it.>one character may only make 1 pt. >for each additional mark you get 5 more plague bearers and can choose where they are placed>eg: one mark may have 4 plague bearers, and the other may have 11, any unit with plague bearers added may not have their number exceed 30>you may also add a unit of nurgling when 2 marks exist, or a plagur drone if 2 marks are within 3 inches of eachother>if 3 marks are present you may add 2 nurglings, if 3 marks are within 3 inches of each other you may add 1 GUO >after adding the GUO remove all marks from the board (this doesn't mean you cannot add more marks, but remember it will take you another 3 turns and 3 new characters to do this again)
EMPEROR'S CHILDREN WHEN!
>>66245821>wanting the rhino retiredFuck you buddyThe rhino is amazingThen GW got lazy and slapped stupud turrets on the top of it to make another half dozen vehicles.
Three tactical squad boxes, please.
>>66245866>LazyI was under the impression it was a way to save money by cutting fewer vehicle sprues, a trick they've now seemingly abandoned outside of Knights and Titanicus.
>>66245866Tbh that just makes the rhino cooler.
Read a good book anons.
>>66245821>rhino>retiredOh, it will never happen. Not only is it used by any other non-land raider space marine tank, it's also needed for tons of FW kits. It also has endured the test of time, I even doubt the new SoB rhinos won't be just an upgrade sprue for them.
>>66245906They've started doing it with the repulsor and I hate Jes for that.
>>66245912I'm already reading LoTR, sorry.
>>66245888>Why you ask? Too throw them in the wood chipper and make more space for Primaris of course.
>>66245912>he is a rotting carcasswtf bro, what is this heresy
>>66245888>>66245948This is getting out of hand.
>Warhammer? Isn't that game for kids?
>>66245929I think it would be okay if (And only if) it led to actually getting a more varied selection of vehiclesOf course, as long as it's tied to that overpriced chassis, it can't work, for exactly the same reason that the rhino chassis does work.
>>66246029>I think it would be okay if (And only if) it led to actually getting a more varied selection of vehiclesIt will never be okay because space marines already have a huge selection of vehicles that already fill all possible niches, so any new primaris ones will do the same they've been doing and overlap like hell.
>>66245741even if he is that's no excuse, I built all my rhinos blazed out of my mind
>>66245915>even doubt the new SoB rhinos won't be just an upgrade sprue for them.It will be a rhino kit plus the new stuff. Willing to bet they're repackaging rhinos to get rid of them.
>>66246092Why is it ok when guard does it?
>>66246114Because they are PC unlike NPC like marines
>>66246114It isn't. Bloat and overlap are never good. And guard has not gotten a new vehicle in years.
>>66245611>>66245654>>66245854I'll take the resounding silence as shocked approval with nothing to add. Don't be afraid to say anything though.
>>66246146Wasn't the newest kit a vehicle?
>>66246097>It will be a rhino kit plus the new stuff.That's what I said.>Willing to bet they're repackaging rhinos to get rid of them.That doesn't make any sense. The rhino mold recovered its investment yeara and years ago. They don't need to get rid of anything if it keeps selling.
Why is the repulsor so huge?Why is the redemptor so huge?Did gw unironically fall for the 1:1 scale meme?
>>66246163The taurox? Wasn't that a tempestus thing at first?
>>66245496What's up with the cubes? Does he have some kind of techy field?
>>66246175They might have some unsold sprues.They do stuff like SC to push out old models cheaply before updating them. If they were updating the rhino that's what they would do imo.
>>66246181I don't know what to think of the Astraeus. It's just so wierd and the fact that it's only primaris doesn't help.
>>66246183To be fair outside of updating old vehicles do guard really need more tanks?
>>66245348Do Chaos marines get touchy if you talk smack about their primarch?
>>66246194Sure but there's literally no reason to update he rhino. It doesn't need more detail, it doesn't have any glaring scale problems as it's a vehicle, it's modular enough you can add whatever new weapons you want and, most of all, it's used in a fuck ton of kits you'd need to update too and those, again, don't need to be updated.
>>66246181>Why is the repulsor so huge?It needs to fit marines in gravis armor.>Why is the redemptor so huge?It needs to fit a huge power plant.
>>66246202no, the world eaters become civildummy
>>66246212Maybe to work with the new marine scale. I mean you could say the exact same thing about primaris in rhinos.
>>66246201Not really. They need reculpts for their infantry kits, for more regiments and plastic kits for the resin ones but not really new units. Same with space marines, all these new primaris units don't really bring anything and the army didn't need them. It only makes the roster even more bloated.
>>66246215Sorry I meant miniature size not lore wise.
>>66246225Marines being 5mm taller doesn't need the rhino to be 5mm bigger too.
>>66246181They have huge guts
Can someone tell me the source of this picture of Pert cus it's fucking awesome looking.
>>66246195It's basically a super-sized Sicarian with anti-grav.
>>66246149I mean, summoning is definitely an underdeveloped area and could be way more interesting, yeah
>>66246230>It only makes the roster even more bloated.That reminds me of what someone said about the poor rule writers having to internally balance the codex with 3 whole waves of new primaris models.But then it makes you wonder why they can't balance csm who got mostly updates instead of many new units.
>>66246236Well, primaris are marines BUT BIGGER AND BETTER so repulsors are rhinos BUT BIGGER AND BETTER. Also, you cna't really have that many weapons if you make it a lot smaller.
>>66246249Why does he have so many thick cables penetrating his skin
>>66246202Black Legion talk smack about their own primarch. Fulgrim abandoned his children for his own pursuits. Lorgar fucked off to do next to nothing all this time. Angron is more of a slave then he ever was. Typhius talks shit to Mortarians face and I’m not sure how death guard feel about him outside of the brotherhood nurgle teachs. Thousand Sons have mixed feeling about Magnus but I think it’s improvibg since he got over his 10,000 sulk.
>>66246257>That reminds me of what someone said about the poor rule writers having to internally balance the codex with 3 whole waves of new primaris models.It really must be a pretty shit situation when you are given a fuckload of new units that need rules for an army that already has tools tondo everything. Hell, that was the point of marines, jack of all trades, begginner army and all that. Primaris should have been their own thing, not marines.
>>66246252 sorry, I'm just genuinely concerned how no-one has shrieked about the idea being awful.
>>66246302It's only been 4 minutes. Give it time.
>>66246236The vehicles need to be bigger than their normal marine equivalents, because primaris miniatures themselves are bigger. It would not make visual sense for larger infantry miniatures to be transported in the same sized vehicles. Primaris vehicles also pose more threat per-miniature, so they need to be harder to hide/cover on the tabletop to offset it.
>>66246266>Also, you cna't really have that many weapons if you make it a lot smaller.It honestly looks fine with minimal guns.
>>66246292Make fun of Pertarabo, Got it.
>>66246331>a sort of just actual hover rhino, without the amount of weapons required to take on half of Macraggi am ok with this
>>66246331At that point it's just a floaty land raider.
>>66246331>Transport>Has Fly>Can shoot a littleThis would actually be pretty okay, wouldn't it?
>>66246249He looks like he's taking angrons design. Also reminds me of these guys
>>66246331>paying money for this plastic chunk
>>66246331Huh, yeah. Maybe add a slightly raised area towards the rear, with a cupola for the commander and a pintle-mounted storm bolter and it would look pretty nifty.
>>66245830I'm afraid this is the case. W&G has been gone from the Ulisses Spiele site for half a month now, and now you can no longer find any 40k rpgs online.
>>66246354With less guns and doesn't ignore hw penalties
>>66246360>implying I didn't just want a plastic chunk
What's the name of this manouevre?
>>66246360>reee it's just a box how dare you spend money on this thing don't you see it's a BOX? Never mind any extraneous details, the fact remains that those details exist on a GEOMETRIC SHAPE, therefore it is JUST A BOXYou people are the reason why we're in this mess with too many guns to begin with.
>>66246391The the absolute fuck Is the rhino on the bottom left?
>>66246391Technically against the rules since a vehicle can't go in a building
>>66246391The Floor Is Nocturne.
>>66246190Yeah, he's supposed to be shrouded by a hologram. Source of his 3++>>66245496He's okay. Against hordes he's straight up worse than an Eversor but if you give him Cegorach's Rose he does something like 7.5 average wounds per turn to a space marine captain, before using Blitz. And they returned his ability to charge over bubblewraps so he's a viable character assassin. On average he'll even do 4.5 wounds to girlyman on a Blitz charge.With either weapon he kills an average of around 3 MEQs per fight phase.A blitz move, advance, and charge is 12+5D6 inches of movement total so he has an insane (if unreliable) threat range.Basically he's okay. Super cool mini though. I have him in a 1000pt detachment of clowns because it was the best way to fill it out, with 3x 5-player troupes, a troupe master, and a shadowseer in 3 transports.
>>66246403That's one of the two anti-air tanks Space Marines get. The Hunter, I think?
>>66245450I'm thinking of using it to finish off the lingering tyranid models I have left that I CBF finishing (the army is ancient and my painting skills have gone way past it). And if there are any decent shades I may use them to update my current white+wash imperial guard army.
>>66246403Hunter. Space Marine AA. Fires missiles that are crewed by the husks of chapter serfs, really accurate and powerful
>>66246375I just don't see the point to it. We already had a cheap transport a cheañ transport with less capacity but a big gun, an assault transport with lots of guns and battle tanks for all situations. The reupulsor is just... there. It only has a purpose because of the primaris transport restrictions.
>>66246408Sexy. I've been toying with the idea of making elf kill teams with an eye towards a casual soup list.
>>66246391Is that even legal?
Say for the sake of argument that there was a Primaris Space Marine unit in which all 5 of the miniatures come equipped with bolt rifles (either generic, auto, or stalker) with auxiliary grenade launchers. What would be a good name for such a unit, and what other weapon options should there be?
>>66246412>>66246415Ah cool, unfamiliar with all the variants thought it was a conversion.
>>66246391He doesn't have elbows, but bless him he's trying.
>>66246181I WANT THAT SUPER HEAVY HOVER TANK SO BAD
>>66246416Nice anon, I love preshading primers, just did thee monday. Protip though, if you crop your phone pics just a little they strip the accelerometer exif data and reduce the filesize.
>>66246416Titanicus knight legs look silly on marines, but I feel like the potential is there if some converting and greenstuffing is done, more to make it more than just slapping the legs on a torso
>>66246418If it could transport terminators and gravis for cheap compared to a LR it would be something I guess.But I say that as a csm player, I have no idea what crazy shit you guys have.
>>66246442Sweet. Thanks anon
>>66246429Yes. Gw still hasn't fixed wobbly model
>>66246448It has potential
>>66246331Could you imagine if that thing didn't have hover tracks, and just treads?Fucking Cawl, why do admech have to make cool shit and then ruin it.
>>66246430Primaris Fusilladers or something like that probably
>>66246391Is that flying box being supported up by the dread underneath?There's no way it's able to sit on the ruin on it's own.
>>66246465Ah new noise marines.
>>66246432all good. its a vehicle in an army that naturally hasn't had very good tanks, and more importantly, it's ADA, in an army that is already pretty weak in that department
>>66246457I will learn their secrets, goddammit. Or at least learn to lose with style.
>>66246452It costs around the same as a land raider so it wouldn't really solve anything.>But I say that as a csm player, I have no idea what crazy shit you guys have.I'm still confused why you guys still don't have at least razorbacks, drop pods and dropships of some kind.
>>66246448I've got some ambot legs that I want to throw on a primaris. I think that will be a little harder
>>66246481Look closely. There is a tiny piece of rebar sticking out from the upper floor.
>>66246481Don't give 'em any ideas
>>66246430Primaris Sentinams, no weapon options, of course.
>>66246500No idea. I'm shocked they don't give csm a natural deepstrike for their infantry.Or a deepstrike that allows them to reposition one enemy model in a unit
>>66246249>>66246276What i'm wondering is did Perturabo have hair before he decided that sticking a bunch of pool noodles in the back of his skull was the best way to avoid having to learning how to swim.
>>66246331See. I do not get GW. Why not release a repuslor rhino kit? It would take exactly 2 seconds to make/design. You'd sell it to neckbeards for like $90AUD.WHY. JUST DO IT. REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>66246195>that it's only primarisIt doesn't even have the Primaris tag. Its just Adeptus Astartes <Chapter>
>>66246533Aos design crept into primaris. I also suppose the idea is that primaris are overtooled.
>>66246331>People acting surprised that this looks good and would be quite useful.No duh guys. The Rhino was a staple of Marine armies for a reason.Honestly the <Fly> rule actively hinders its use since now enemies can shoot under it, making LOS blocking just a bit more futile.
>>66245866>>66246212The rhino kit is just barely above bootleg tier construction in terms of sloppy parts fit and engineering at this point.>>66245915>I even doubt the new SoB rhinos won't be just an upgrade sprue for them.That's literally what they already have. If they were going to be lazy they just wouldn't do anything.>>66246194GW doesn't work that way. They do their own manufacturing and are constantly replenishing stock. The only time a product can technically shelf-warm is a brand new release, not something they've been making for 20 years.
>>66246541So like redemptors? That still didn't stop them from also limiting their transports. Though I guess that one's fair because it's a hell of a lot bigger than a normal boxnaught.
>>66246331Is the new tank actually bigger/different, or is it just a repulsor with a larger turret gun? The razorback to the repulsor's rhino?
>>66246478>Fucking Cawl*clap* NOT *clap* ALL *clap* ADMECH
Near-final sorcerer. I don't know what to color the rock he's standing on, and I forgot to do an edge highlight on the blue.
>>66246580Rotated slightly to show off the plasma and sword more
>>66246580Have you decided on your bases?Base the rock off of that.
>>66246580Nice osl was it just a slowly built up glaze? How long did it take ya?
>>66246574Its a very slightly different hull, since its storm bolters have moved up into the turret and are no longer above the doors. Its almost the same though, its like a land raider...razorback...thing.
>>66246574Repulsor chassis is primaris version of the rhino chassis, so yeah - largely the same with some minor changes.
>>66246567>The rhino kit is just barely above bootleg tier construction in terms of sloppy parts fit and engineering at this point.I still doubt they'll ever update it. No one is gonna replace their existing tanks and they would also need to update all the other kits that use their chassis unless they make them compatible and then there would be even less point in updating it.>That's literally what they already have. If they were going to be lazy they just wouldn't do anything.I wouldn't be so sure. The basic SoB rhino is just a normal rhino, it's the special variants that have extra pieces. This may be just extra pieces to make a distinctive SoB basic rhino, like the deimos pattern upgrade kit.
>>66246588Lastly, initial basecoat(s) on the Termie Sorcerer.After he's done, I have to decide what to paint next. Missile launcher guy is the lowest priority since he's the worst conversion imo. I think I will go for the autocannon guy next.>>66246595I drybrushed wild rider red on every edge where I could see a line of sight between the coils and object.>>66246593I'm figuring on doing ashes-and-rubble, or urban area for the bases. Basing however is something I will do when I got most of my army done, because I'm happy with simple blacktop-goldrim bases.
>>66246201Nobody really "needs" anything, but GW wants to keep selling new products to people and most IG players like cool tanks (as seen by the 50% of FW products that aren't space marines being IG vehicles).
>>66245671Low iq troll
what sized magnets should I get for magnetizing the arms and back for a space marine? decided to do what all the cool kids are doing and make a smash captain, but I also want to be able to swap out his gear and jump pack. 2x1mm should be small enough, yes?
>>66245450I absolutely expect grey tides to remain grey even with easy mode paint
>>66246622Sounds like a good idea anon; I would try and colour the rock to look like that, or if you're feeling daring you might be able to make it look like a chunk of granite from some fancy pillar or something. Nice work too by the way!
>>66246634>Nobody really "needs" anythingVery shit argument but okay. Still, there's plenty of armies that could use new units and those are neither IG nor SM.
>>66246580So how are you playing these? As renegades?
>>66246331Looks like a gay zamboni or something.
>>66246694Kek, it does
>>66245912Read and enjoyed it already. Good taste on your part.
>>66246620>The basic SoB rhino is just a normal rhino
>>66246775That is a conversion anon.SoB Rhino is just a regular rhino with SoB vehicle hits. That’s an Immolator/Exorcist top bits on top of a rhino
>>66246331This is what I want. A transport that doesn't cost 1/4 of my points.
>>66246391The flying keyword allows units with it to ignore terrain and units as if they’re not there. And they can charge through units on the ground as if they’re not there either with the new changes to charge and units with <FLY>
>>66246462They didn't fix the wording in the FAQ, but they did come right out and say you're a faggot if you try to use the rule that way. I think any reasonable person would never do that in the first place, especially now that GW said that's not what the rule is for.
>>66246800Please tell me you're only pretending to be retarded.
>>66246813That is a conversionSoB Rhino is a regular rhino.What you are seeing there is like someone claiming the marine rhino is super special because the fucker used Razorback bits
>>66245605Break it to him gently.
>>66246580is this the original thousand sons model? Did they add new ones?
>>66246775>>66246906...It's a normal rhino.
>>66246201Late to the party here, but "kind of". We could really use some light vehicles (eg, bringing the Tauros back, bringing Salamanders back with weapon options, having some kind of scout/medium Leman Russ, that sort of thing), and having some kind of barebones transport where all you're paying for is 12 capacity and a pintle mount would be nice (be nice if we could also get it open-topped). The current lineup feels a bit top-heavy, though I will agree that it's not something we truly *need*, not in the same way that, say, 'crons need better ranged AT options.
>>66246906Being this retarded
>>66246668Csm detachment in my TS army.
I like Orks aesthetically but I don't care for horde armies.Would I be fucking up completely if I went for a more elite/vehicular list? Say Kult of Speed or maybe a Dread Mob?
>>66247039>I like Orks aesthetically but I don't care for horde armies.you already fucked up>Would I be fucking up completely if I went for a more elite/vehicular list? Say Kult of Speed or maybe a Dread Mob?you can do kult of speed, but you still need a core of boys if you want to be remotely playable or if you plan on getting into competitive play.
>>66247039You're fucking up completely just by liking orks. They don't belong in 40k, even more so than Tau
>>66246622>drybrushed wild rider red on every edge where I could see a line of sight between the coils and object.Shiiiiiet that looks good for a drybrush
>>66247051But if I have a huge horde of boys on foot them am I playing kult of speed? Is it really completely necessary to have a boyz horde to be even remotely competitive? Nothing else is even mid-tier?>>66247074imagine believing this
>>66246807Well that's debatable. They had the exact same sentiment about soup.
>>66247013Don't you already have Tauroxes and Chimeras?
>>66247097Dont even respond to anti ork poster anon
>>66246448>Titanicus knight legs look silly on marinesYou shut your whore mouth>>66246465Ahahaha Brother Kardashian
>>66247013Don't sentinals fit the light vehicle niche?
How many Maulerfiends and Forgefiends is too many? I have two of each in a detachment with a Disco Lord.
>>66246952>Literally a space marine Rhino with a different paintjob
Am i SOL when it comes to getting shadowspear? It's out of stock but I want those CSM Sculpts, do they ever restock
>>66247110>Dont even respond to anti ork poster anonI dont hate orks, I actually like them (I just dont play them). >>66247097>But if I have a huge horde of boys on foot them am I playing kult of speed?you put them in wagons. when the vehicle blows up your boys fall out and then charge to your objectives. having over 120 wounds to go through is hell for most armies to deal with. and thats not even including vehicles and other shit on the table. Competitive ork lists takes 120 boys and a couple HQ's and then whatever the fuck else you want. Even after the Loota death star got nerfed, other ork lists without it are winning and placing in tournaments.
>>66246181Better question, why does a super heavy only have a big gun and six lascannons
>>66247159They should restock.
Criticize the first ever model ive painted.Waiting on some finer tipped brushes from jews workshop so hopefully my hightlights arent so thick next time.I fucked up the shoulder pads really bad too.
>>66247159they will probably be getting restocked, dont be afraid to look at other online shops or even on ebay for just the chaos half of shadowspear.
>>66247097A lot of what they have is mid tier, but what makes Orks really good is their strats their buffs and just the never ending hordes of boyz like holy fuck you can fit so many boyz and grots in a list and just kill anyone
>>66247097Boys on foot do speed better, because all of the speed buffs you have available are additive, meaning they have a greater relative effect on something slow to begin with. E.g. Evil Sunz boys are the best at succeeding at the charge after being Da Jumped.Meanwhile, there's no Codex entry for Warboss on Warbike, because GW hates you, so you have to fall back to the Index, where IIRC everything is pricier and sometimes shittier. Good luck with that.
>>66247184Would look fine on the table / 10I cant look away from his eyes though in the picture
>>66247184Paint consistency, aside from the white seems really good. The purity seal looks great as well, so you just need to slap a layer of red on the bolter and call it good.
What can I play to feel like a special snowflake that isnt marines?
I sorta wanted to make a Black Templar army, what would be the best way to go about doing it? Just buying regular space marines and getting those chapter upgrades?
>>66245450I wanna do some wonky mad scientist shit with contrastI'll probably just end up with a melted model in the end tho
>>66247184white looks a bit thick. my advice, start with a light grey color and shade up from there to make a good 'white'.
>>66247229Play an obscure converted IG regiment.
>>66247229literally anything else. Play eldar, I don't see a lot of them
>>66247229Tau is literally "I don't like 40k but I want to play" the army
>>66247184Practice eyes.Instead of white use ulthuan gray Make sure to base the model.
>tfw coming to the slow realization that the new keeper of secrets needs to be painted in several subassemblies to not look like shitjust fucking kill me
>>66247109Aye, but you're paying extra for weapon systems on both. Like I said, we don't have anything that is just a transport (ie. a Rhino rather than a Razorback).>>66247117Kind of? They're M8/9, which is a bit limp when it comes to scout-vehicle-movement. This has long been a bugbear of mine with the non-HS vehicles of the Guard, it's like the designers can consistently get close to a great design for a light/scout vehicle for Guard, but they can't actually hit the bullseye (Sentinels aren't quite fast enough, Hellhounds are more "assault" than "scout", Taurox/Taurox Prime you pay extra for transport you don't really need if you're looking for a scout vehicle, Tauros/Tauros Venator/Scout Salamander were good I still think the Salamander needs more weapon options but are OOP and unlikely to survive the next codex update).
>>66246500tbf we do have drop pods, they just suffer from all the same problems imperial ones do, with the added handicap of a mortal wounds gimmick that drives their cost through the roofthat said, I'd give an eye for razorbacks and drop ships>>66246525>I'm shocked they don't give csm a natural deepstrike for their infantry.cries in Alpha Legion nerf
>>66247184Most people in my store have their models painted to this standard and it hurts me deeply
>>66247297At least they are painted.
>>66247202I overspilled his eyes p good.>>66247206>>66247236>>66247250My white scar paint was, chunky I guess when I got it out of the pot. I based the pads with grey, and then white but I was impatient and didnt let the white dry between coats and then I layed it on way too thick to cover it up. Any advice for better eyes?
>>66247327>Any advice for better eyes?Good news for you Duncan has you covered!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZYObTNdhkA
What are my heavy anti-vehicle options for elves without taking big vehicles? Fire dragons?
>>66247327>any advice for better eyes?a finer brush. that's all you really need for now. looks like its just a matter of painting within the details and making sure you aren't spilling over. Beyond that, you can experiment with using a glaze, or a second color to pair with the red to give the lenses a tad bit more detail. however, for the typical 3ft/tabletop quality, just making sure the paint isn't spilling over should be fine
>>66247330Man that shading makes it seem super easy, and itll keep you away from the edges. Could I fill the lens socket with Nuln oil to get that effect?
>>66247184Base it and it'll look fine.
>>66247354BROTHER I AM HIT
>>66247351fire dragons, wraithlords with brightlances, guardian squads with brightlance platforms, wraithguard with their d-weapon, can't remember which one but both options are short range so that might be an issue
>>66247351Fire Dragons, Dark Reapers, anything carrying a Blaster/Dark Lance/Heat Ray (although Heat Rays aren't efficient, iirc), fusion pistol clowns.
>>66247368Oh I get it. Would some bits of dry grass some super glue and some backyard dirt do it?
>>66247184Come to /wip/ so I can fuck you up.
What named character's do you expect to get squatted when GW finally retires Finecast?
>>66247396would be fine to my i think. I would advise you to heat blast the dirt first though, just to make sure any bacteria or parasites or other unpleasant microorganisms dont give you issues. sticking it in the oven for a little while would do the trick. You can also do this with other things you pick up from nature to use with models
>orkz will never be good again. the first person to tell me whos responsible for this gets to live.
>>66247330>try this with my plague marines>fail horribly>if I post them now they'll just end up in >>66247354>going to have to strip decently painted models just to fix the fucked up visorsThe only pic I have now is this old wip from two weeks ago and it's going to stay that way then.How do I paint good eyes then? Not visors or lenses but proper eyes and faces so I don't fuck up my next set of minis.
>>66247431Duncan; he hates painting horde armies, so 9E is going to be all about small, elite units.
>>66247297post your models shithead
>>66247434Apply generous ammounts of agrax so the eyes remain hidden
>>66247236>>66247250>>66247327Don’t water down your white paints, you need to use medium (pic related) to dilute it as water will make it dry extremely fast due to the additive used in the paint to make it whiteUse thinned down layers 1:1 white to medium and do lots of coats. If you don’t let the coats completely dry before layering up the next one, your brush will tear the thin layer of paint and crate crumbing like you have on the padsuse gemstone paints under coated with stormhost silver on the eyes and lenses until you’re more confident painting transition gems
>>66247449>Duncan hates paintingThis basically confirms his rapist tendencies?
How would they fair in 40k?
>>66247468I have a few to add to this
>>66247473They’d probably run out of crew if all the red shirts die.
>>66247473I don't remember much about Star Trek, but probably badly.
>>66247473How much techno blabla and plot armour do they have?
>>66247467Only when he's on vacation in Alabama, now that it's illegal there not to carry his children.
>>66247396That's too pov. For the most cheapo option get some spackle paste (stuff for filling holes in walls) from a hardware store, use that for texture on the base and then paint it and dry brush it. Or get some vallejo black lava.
>>66247468I wasn't talking about that one, he doesn't have a visor to paint but I guess it's time to quit 40k forever anyway.
>>66246952>>66247019All joke aside I hope they bring back firing ports for rhinos...Then I hope SoB rhinos get 4 firing ports to dab on the manlets.
Librarian dreads are cool
>>66247533Is there an actual reason only BAs get them? Do the other chapters all take their crippled libbies out back and Old Yeller them for no apparent reason?
>>66247184Very cool anon!
>>66247547Magic is gay that's why
>>66247282It'd be kinda nice for all vehicles to get a special rule letting you field them without any weapons aside from their tracks/legs/etc, if you really want to.
>>66247484Bottom left & right are fucking legit.
>>66247546It was one of Ward's many BA Codex mistakes that haven't been reverted
>>66247546I've been wondering the same thing for a long time. Personally, I wanna see Techmarine and Apothecary Dreadnoughts.
>>66247473in that ship, not for very long. They are barely frigate sized in 40k values and their shields are complete dogshit. The only advantage they have is superior sensors. Now if it was TNG era Enterprise, they would fare better, but in any kind of boarding actions after their shields went down they would be fucked beyond reasoning. In ship combat though they would fare well against cruisers, but would still be completely outclassed by battlecruisers and battleships in 40k. Enterprise-E would potential be able to go up against a battlecruiser in 40k and probably come out the victor (mostly because of superior sensors and targeting, as well as the spinal lance). You would need the Enterprise-F or a Tal-Shiar Scimitar in order to go up against a grand cruiser in 40k.
>>66247546don't BAs have more librarians overall? as well as all their nicked relics.
I'm gonna outfit my brobots with FISTS and you CAN'T STOP ME
>>66247396my mate uses beach sand painted black then drybrushed and it looks pretty good
>>66247546The fluff reason given is that BAs just have more librarians in their chapter in general which is why they got them.
>>66246529Weird autismo hair, of course.
>>66247546hilarious mental image
>>66247583Why would it need to be reverted? Any Marine should be capable of being interned in a dreadnought. It might be rare, but so is cataphractii armor, and that has rules.
>>66247572The big gay.It’s why the biggest gay (chaos fags) can’t get enough of it.
>try osl for plasma>ruin decent paint jobNo wonder no one is good at it. The prerequisite is ruining a 100 good minis.
>>66247599You're thinking of BRs, the loyalist TSons successors with lots of libbies and stolen shit. BAs are the ones who allegedly go completely insane at the drop of a hat, but on the tabletop behave just as sanely as anyone else.
>>66247594If there was a planet that was a small scale imperium of man and all its enemies. What would picard say about it's atrocities in the name of survival?
>>66247615Really makes you think why rubrics not only have dreads have anything but pysker dreads
>>66247651>just one giant syringe for an arm>Built for BIG boo boos
>>66247579Eh, for transports that'd be interesting, but not for vehicles in general, I think. I mean, having weapons on a transport is icing on the cake, having weapons on a battle tank is pretty much the point of the vehicle in the first place.
>>66247651Apothecaries have their own problems. Least competent medics in the game - no one else, period, on a failed medic check, forfeits the rest of their turn. They need to take some lessons from their betters, like IG medics.
>>66247449He said he enjoys Knights and Guard in the interview with MWG Matt though
>>66247600Plz do hombre.Someone needs to run their beep boops into melee...> thrallax when!!1!1!!!1!!
>>66247637Picard was fairly pragmatic, he understood the cost of survival if it meant breaking the rules on occasion. Thats how he became the man he was. He saw what happened when he played it safe, and he was a fucking coward and a desk jockey. The Prime Directive was a set of guidelines (not unlike the Codex Astartes). He was willing to break it on occasion if it meant the survival of humanity. He may not like the way the imperium operates, but he would certainly understand why it was the way it was and probably continue it with a few changes here and there. He was not above trying to Genocide the Borg every chance he got.
>>66247676Why are her breasts so small?
>>66247600I mean, they’re pretty punchy in close combat. But the lack of an invul makes them squishy against high AP melee
>>66247668Fluff reasons, they're carving out the geneseed, which is their primary responsibility.
>>66247682They’re being compressed
>>66247618Really it's a lot more contextual. Making dreadnaughts fly off of dying librarian powers was really jarring for that time. I don't think they gave it to other chapters because of the reaction at the timeMainly how busted Wings + Double fist was too
>>66247682Weight loss due to the stress of being a quadriplegic & wired into a cocaine coffin of steel and warp chit.
>>66247651>I HAVE COME TO YOUR AID BROTHER. NOW HOLD STILL WHILE I ADMINISTER THIS COCKTAIL OF PAINKILLERS AND ADRENALINE WITH MY TORSO SIZED APOTHECARY TOOLS. DO NOT WORRY BROTHER, YOU AND YOUR GENESEED WILL SURVIVE TO FIGHT ANOTHER DAY>WOOPS, I SLIPPED. SORRY. NEVERTHELESS, YOUR GENESEED WILL BE USED TO PRODUCE MIGHTY BATTLE BROTHERS IN HONOR OF YOUR SACRIFCE
>>66247665Thousand sons have dreadnaughts. Instead of using the opportunity to give them neet pysker dread, they pull dumb bullshit and excuse it away by saying they're not actually thousand sons hellbrutes.
>>66247637I mean, the imperium only is the way it is because of the mindboggling logistics it has to deal with.
>>66247689That's several kinds of stupid, and always has been. They should be doing that before the Marines make planetfall - it's not like they need those organs to live, or leaving the organs in extra long will make them extra ripe.
>>66247689Crunchwise they could carve it out, then next turn put it back in and bring the guy back anyway.
I use shit like all-plasma chosen but offset it with garbage units like raptorsam I cancer
>>66247705>take off all prostheticsThat would be horrifying.
>>66247715they did but it's for HH
>>66247715Just give us tomb kings in space already.Ushtabi can be rebound rubrics.Behemoth constructs can be the priest dread not equivalents...I feel like the out dated lore is never gonna get replaced with anything cool.
>>66247689>see guiliman dieing>think about helping him>but imagine the geneseed!
>>66247735No, but if you don't apply Prescience and Warp-Sight Plea to your two units with plasma, then you're a bad player.
>>66247743Yeah, thrallax (and admech) are fooked.Xcom & ghost in the shell don’t come close...
>>66247759Don't be silly, every SM Apothecary swears a solemn oath not to bring back anyone who goes into battle without a battle buddy.So Guilliman isn't a valid res target any more than a fellow Apothecary would be. Gotta have standards.
>>66247759No but really, imagine the gene seed
>>66247434>>66247514Fuck it I'm going to prime some heads and practice painting the lenses and strip and paint them until I'm no longer a scrub. I just need to squish the heads onto some poster tack and impale them like some autistic mongolian right?
>>66247763I only have one unit with plasma
>>66247689Although that's true, for the points they cost they should have some actual benefits towards using them.>terminator apothecary is even worse than normal apothecary
>>66247810Get more, son. Hell, you can field a third if you feel like it, which plays riskier by only relying on a Chaos Lord. And/or be a patrician and field combiplasma terminators with your termi sorc.
>>66247689>Plague Surgeon doesn't have to waste a turn every time he kills a space marine unit???
>>66247759>cawl, when making the primaris, was able to remake half of the organ required to make a Primarch, on account of the fact that there wasn't any blueprints, diagrams, or working specimens>all he needs to do to be able to factory produce primarchs is (probably) a complete, functional god organ>good thing guilliman has armor that has really good life support, right?
>>66247832My terminators have combi bolters
>new vox cast>rule writer talks about how important fluffy rules are>talks about how they shaped his vision on how the game played, immensely>me: "well that's ironic considering the state of the 8th editi-">guy wrote all the best codexes and cool shit like shadowspear's unit rulesWhy the heck doesn't this guy touch up more codexes.
Are CSM any good? Is an Undivided force possible with the new codex?
>>66247812They seem to do pretty good. Played a buddy and his apothecary was busy reviving the hellblasters I was shooting.
>>66247866no everything is shit and if your list isnt winning GTs youre shit and need to fuck off
>>66247863>>guy wrote all the best codexesWhich ones?>>66247866They're okay but boring, and undivided is possible if you mean using multiple units with different individual marks
>>66247686Good thing my local 40k meta doesn't have much in the way of high power melee. Worst thing they'll likely run into is a dreadnaught.
>>66247841When are we getting a second heresy
Whats the point of macro canon broadsides? Seems like in the open area of space, it would be much easier to just mount mass banks of lances or torps rather than maneveour for shorter ranged broadsides. Just have the fleet focus fire and kill the enemy before they can get into macro canon range.
>>66247886>Which ones?It was at the beginning of the vid so I forgot, but iirc druhkari, orks, gsc and shadow spear.
>>66247886>Which ones?I'm guessing nids/gsc before the other anon replies
>>66247905>why doesn't 40k do something logicallyDo you know what setting this is?
>>66247895Implying the first heresy ended
>>66247705>tfw no limbless fuckpuppet gfwhy even live
>>66247924How does someone with no legs keep their ass shape?
>>66247936the magic of porn
>>66247866csm are alright to good at the kitchen table level, I don't play at lgs or tournaments so can't comment there
>>66247936Why would they cut off her pooper.
>>66247936i'd assume that their robot legs have connections that can integrate with their fleshy parts, including what few muscles are left in their butt cheeks, which while using their robot parts, get a work out as well.alternatively, like what>>66247946 said
>>66247866They get tabled pretty easily when your opponent flexes a bit too hard. Our local druhkari player for instance just gibs everyone t1.
>>66247936You can still squat with robo thighs
>>66247936Vigorous Butt massages to keep the muscles in check
So can someone tell me why the fuck pic related is even in the codex? Why write this down that you dont have to pick a mark, when you get no fucking benefit for it and are locked out of lots of stratagems and units if you do so? Why would they write this garbage?
>>66246404It has fly, it can.
>>66246181>>66246195>>66246251>>66246541But can it kill titans?
>>66248015You can summon any daemon, and the undecided banner. You can also use the strategem (that litterally no one has ever used) to mark something mid game.
>>662480151>have you MET 40k players2>fluff
>>66248015if they didn't include that, people would have bitched about itpeople bitched about the codex anyways, but that's to be expected
>>66248015+1 leadership on squads and the ability for characters to summon any daemon
>>66248029Killing titans is actually surprisingly easy, just spam mortal wounds in melee.
>>66246181>Why is the repulsor so huge?they copied the land raider>Why is the redemptor so huge?That one I'm not so sure. Maybe they tried to copy the success of the leviathan.
Why is this so useless holy fuck
>>66248099>Maybe they tried to copy the success of the leviathan. If they did they showed just how terribly incompetent they are, that thing has no redeeming (no pun intended) qualities over any of the other dreads.
>>66248130why do chaos players bitch non stop
>>66247936Like Stephan hawking text to speech but with the ass.
>>66248130Why is it written so awkwardly?
>>66248130>a stratagem that is somehow even worse than the Loyalist versionhah, suck it iron assblasted
>>66248162And instead of speaking it moves her robo-body.And instead of putting the universe in a nutshell she has anal grip that can crack a nutshell.
>>66248140Because our codex sucks dick
>>66248181We have a pretty good warlord trait and relic though
>>66248171Should have kept keywords but cleaned them up by getting rid of stupid shit like Zealot that essentially just gave other keywords. This ability would be much easier if it just said "This unit has a 6+ Feel No Pain until the end of the phase".
>>66248140>why do chaos players bitch non stophe isnt wrong that its a CP strategem instead of a warband trait. >>66248171probably to make sure it cant be used excessively. GW has had to write errata's telling players that if they concede, they lost the match. And moving units of the table destroys the unit.
>>66248201genuinely curious, what is it? I'm thinking about starting a chaos marine army eventually to expand on a segment of /mydudes/'s fluff, and I can't exactly download the csm codex right now
>>66248219Legion=ignore coverWarlord=auto pass moral 6” auraRelic=2+ & recover one wound per turn.
>>66248130>1CP for a 6+++You tell me.
>>66248219IW warlord trait gives the warlord a morale-ignoring aura. Great for cultist blobs. The IW relic gives you a 2+ save and heals one wound per turn, which makes a daemon prince even better.
>>66248015People were pretty mad about the lack of undivided options.
>>66248130It could be useful on something like a lord discordant or a land raider
>>66248241Daemon Princes cant take relics or benefit from traits I thought
>>66248241>>66248230huh, that's pretty cool
>>66248260They definitely can, m8.
>>66248171long form imparting of shit rules leads to less anger then if a shit rule was plainly stated?>>66248244Why? How would not picking a mark give you more options?At least armies that aren’t innately go aligned can choose their marks to get more options...
>>66246391The WAAC Faggg manouevre
>>66248265Fluff wise daemon princes are just ascended mortals anyway right?They would for sure have the benefits of their patron legion.
>no tau gue'vesa>no ork mercenary warbandsgames shite.
>>66248266It's the fact that you can choose not to pick a mark that's important. If I recall right with the old codex, you had to pick a mark.
>>66248288hello snowflake how are you
post action shots please! I live for these pictures!
>>66248312Space Corgis or Doom Corgis
>>66248312Brothers of the Knot
>>66248354thats good why do you like guevesa
>>66248312>>66248333this is about as inevitable as all the times people get dubs on painting a lamenter
>>66248312Now you fucked up >>66248333.
>>66248312Just...just call them the Doom Wolves.
Primaris Cherubim when
>>66248363I think they're neat and it gives a bit more credit to the idea of T'au as not-likely-to-genocide-you.
>>66248288Dude you can make a zebra army if you wantNo one is stopping you
>>66248333anon better deliver
>>66248140Because they waited for a codex forever in 7th, and at the tail end got a good codex. Which was immediately outdated when 8th came out soon after. Then they got a horrible codex. Which lasted a few good years. And now they get a new codex which is arguably worse than the original.So if they wait for a 3rd codex... (Which will be never lets be honest) they will have to wait until 9th, which is supposedly never going to happen.They're dead in the water with one of the worst codexes imaginable, that was sold full price and clearly rushed.
>>66248399>he uses the trademark apostrophe
>>66248391Does anyone really like cherubim? Creepy little bastards.
>>66248391So, what. Toddler sized Cherubim?
>>66248312>>66248333Anon, you can't pull out now.
>>66248414>I didn't even noticeits too late for me. i've become fullshill. Save yourself, anon.
>>66248399that's cool but i think t'au being closet racists using people as tools is neat but i guess that still ends up with more guevesa so you've convinced me
>>66248318Always a pleasure to see this guy’s ork army.
>>66248440thanks anon!that actually means alot to me
>>66248432I mostly prefer the idea of them being well-meaning but still pretty racist against the idea of non-tau not getting the whole idea OF 'the greater good' so are a bit wary of them even if they're accepting, I dunno. I'd like a few more alien races to use and the Tau could help with that since you wouldn't need a full army set for them, you'd only need 4-5 units since they'd be an ADDITION to a tau army, not a whole other faction.
>>66248463I'm hoping with the WD assassin minidex we get more auxiliaries but I'm not holding my breath
>>66248460Keep up the good work! They always have a lot of character to them
>>66248391>Primaris Aeldari>Primaris Astra Militarum >Primaris Primaris Psyker>Primaris Naecroni>Primaris Orruks>Primaris TyraenidiYou know its going to be true.
>>66248517I would actually be okay with this. It would turn from PRIMARIS ARE SUPER SPECIAL to 'now we have a new adjective to make sure we copyright everything, and everything at a higher scale means it all balances out and barely means anything anymore.'
>>66248517>Primarus Adeptus Mechanicus is not on the listHuzzah my minis are safe from being squatted
>>66248420Yeah and for that reason. Kind of like old nurglings or inq stuff, the weird 40k stuff is great.
>>66248507awe :)thanks for the kind words, the kan kommand appreciates it!
>renegade chapter that turned to chaos after getting fed up with the the stagnation and decline of the Imperium>they believe in the Emperor as two different beings: the Emperor as he was before being placed on the golden throne, and the false corpse emperor that represents the inevitable death of mankind>they think that if they can destroy the golden throne, the Emperor might revive to his original self and bring the Imperium back from the brink of destruction, and are willing to use anything at their disposal to accomplish this, even consorting with Chaos and damning their soulsHow terrible is this lore for /mydudes/? How can I make it better?
>>66246331You ruin a perfectly fine model taking away it's soul and leaving bland shit, good work genius
>>66248546I guess. I got an old cherubim as part of a bits box - looking at some catalogs, I think I got most of an Inquisitorial retinue - but its weird creepiness doesn't really fit with the aesthetics I usually go for, even as a 'let's just make an Inquisitorial retinue for fun.'
>>66248576Only real flaw is that I don't see how a chapter could achieve this - never give a goal that they can't at least work towards, like how the Purge can eliminate planets of life if not the whole galaxy - and where they would get this idea from.
>>66248029Yes, but only as DW
>>66248654That makes sense. It's odd how I can come up with a good motivation for just about any other faction, but I can't think of one for Chaos that doesn't make them sound like just another warband of psychos that get raging power boners for murder and torture.
>>66247460Fuck off shill