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Once you pop you just can't stop edition.

Modern horizons spoilers on May 20th (source: blogatog aka mark rosewater's tumblr)

Old: >>66214728

TQ: What's the one reprint everyone thinks will be in MH that you know won't be?
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>>66233687
TNN and Leovold will 100% not be in MH. I'm on the fence for Strix and Containment Priest.

I do think Fact or Fiction, Foil, Gerard's Verdict, Vindicate, Lightning Rift, Astral Slide, Decimate, and Unexpectedly Absent all can and should be in the set.
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>>66233687
>TQ: What's the one reprint everyone thinks will be in MH that you know won't be?
I really want them to print counterspell and I'm really afraid they won't
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>>66233937
Would leovold really be too good for modern?
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>>66234011
I'm surprised I haven't heard people ask for it more, seems pretty fair with the insane amount of removal in the format
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I want strix and stifle in modern NOW
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>>66234011
He would warp the format into predominately Sultai midrange and control variants.
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>>66233969
>I'm really afraid they won't
I hadn't even considered that possibility. Why would you inflict this doubt on me?
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>>66234077
no he wouldn't
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>>66234093
He absolutely will. The entire format will turn into a grindy halt with Sultai bullshit, Burn, and Tron being the only 3 tier 1 decks.
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>>66233687
>TQ
Rishadan Port and Wasteland won't be in
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>>66234111
>burn
>tier 1
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What sub-$1 bulk trash rares can we expect to crack? Or more importantly which hot garbage mythics will eat up slots because muh reprint equity
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>>66234111
o i am laffin
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#UnbanDRS
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>bbd was a $3 pack set
why do competitive nonstandard formats always get cucked by wotc's pricing?
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>>66234206
Was DRS ever not banned in Modern? He honestly doesn't seem all that bad considering that Daze and Wasteland aren't in Modern to choke players out.
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>>66234224
He got the hammer just after bloodbraid when jund was still "too good." DRS is honestly the most broken card printed in at least 10 years.
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>>66234224
Jund played him and BBE after RTR released. Needless to say, Jund was fucking busted.
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>>66234224
Every deck was trying to splash him before he got banned. Fucking BW tokens was running him. It was absurd.
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>>66234206
>play nic fit for years in legacy
>jotc ban sdt
>switch to maverick
>jotc ban drs
>"we just felt like in a format where people spend large amounts of money to play in a stable meta drs was just too prevalent
>"enjoy your 3-5 years of combo faggotry btw"
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>>66234273
you're right, they should ban Show and Tell
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>>66234273
>he doesn't enjoy combo
ok gay boy go play standard
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>>66234293
not him but i dont enjoy combo i cant interact with
just give us some better tools to cripple combo decks and they can unban whatever degeneracy they want
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>>66234308
>more tools
in legacy you have more than enough tools
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>>66234288
why? show and tell is card disadvantage becasue the opponent can bring something in for nothing.
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>Spell Queller, Flickerwisp, Resto Angel, and Eldrazi Displacer
>mfw I attack for 9 with all the things that also countered/disrupted my opponents plans a minute ago
It just feels so efficient. Creatures that do something and then sit around to attack after are my favorite cards.
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>>66234696
yu gi oh might be for you
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>>66234696
spell queller shouldn't be able to counter supreme verdict desu
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Don't mind me, I'll just be announced in 20 days.
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>>66234848
I honestly wouldn't be against it.
t. merchad
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>>66234848
Imagine unironically believing this
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>>66234848
rather him than strix desu
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>>66234817
Uncounterable spells shouldnt exist to begin with.
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would tnn save blue moon?
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>>66234904
It would save merfolk
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>>66234817
It doesn't tho :^)
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>>66234077
>He would warp the format into predominately Sultai midrange and control variants.
If only.
Playing that shit turn 3 in Modern right now seems pretty slow.
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>>66234817
>spell queller shouldn't be able to counter supreme verdict desu
Kek, stay mad.
t. Spirits chad
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How do you beat TNN? What cards hose it?
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>>66235887
You basically have to wrath, edict or race it right? You can't really do shit else.
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>>66235945
So it's gonna be Lili's edict, S. Verdict or what? Will Modern start playing other kill spells because of it? I mean, there's already a lot of fast creature decks, so I suppose many decks won't even notice it. Does TiTi hit it?
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>>66235968
There was a time in Legacy where some decks actually played squid!Gisela to race TNN. Really any deck that puts out aggro faster can beat out TNN but because it goes into an already pretty okay shell in Merfolk that might be easier said than done.
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>>66235945
-x/-x all
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>>66235968
titi hits
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>>66235993
On a second thought I really can't see how it will be useful for the decks that can use it other than Merfolk and some other aggro decks, if they even exist. They couldn't even block creatures with it, right? Slow control decks might want to do something else for 3 mana, or?
>>66236010
Toxic Deluge? Now that'd save GDS.
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how good are spirits now? I want to pay tribal but I'm not gay enough to play elves or humans
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>>66234960
Merfolk is dead bro just accept it. A 3 mana 3/1 won't save it.
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>>66236097
Then get gayer. Elves forever.
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havent played in a while, any new cards that improve the deck (besides new karn)
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>>66236097
>elves
>gay
?????
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>>66236037
TNN scoops to baneslayer which is one of its biggest flaws. It also gets destroyed by phoenix because it's bounced by TiTi and gets outraced so hard by birds and horrors. I'm not sure how good it would even be in Modern but it still shouldn't be printed because the card is a design mistake.
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>>66236101
It actually would, 4x TNN instead of 4x MoW, you lower the curve significantly, you can play merrow reejeryes again through vials since you need to go up to 4 (if you want to play them) and it covers exactly the spot that MoW did, which is a roadblock/wincon that can't be easily removed (merfolk was briefly a T1 deck with sightly over 3% representation before fatal push was printed, so the premium removal spells were bolts and paths but red or black/red spells like khologarns command were king before kaladesh), right the deck itself isn't in a bad spot it needs that extra unfair edge that the other decks have gained in the last few expansions.
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>anime girl tribal combo deck is gay
uh ok sweaty
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https://mtg.gamepedia.com/File:Autumn_Burchett.jpg

Say something nice to your mistress
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>>66236408
Back to /vg/
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>>66236192
Sunder shaman and return to nature.
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>>66236192
is this fun? tempted to try it online looks wacky
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>>66236497
thanks man
>>66236516
its fun in the sense of being extremely satisfying to pull of and knowing your opponent is seething. not fun in the sense of very competitive or consistent
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>>66234273
>Jotc ban top to stop miracles
>Miracles is still tier 1 because CC+Top has always been a memelock and the real issue is fucking terminus
I don’t even play top decks other than sometimes nickfit online an I am still salty.
Also makes blue even fucking better.
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>>66236585
Also, maybe cindervines for the sideboard
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>>66234336
In anything non blue?
You fucking don’t unless the combo is
1. Dredge (if you lose against dredge you are bad)
2. One turn kill that didn’t draw good and you made them discard shit
3. High tide but high tide is literally TES but strictly worse
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>>66236882
most hosers are artifacts
go play standard or edh you little whiny faggot where you can turn em sideways all day
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>>66237006
>He thinks his amethyst is going to do much vs TES or S&T or TinFins
Ok/10
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>>66234111
>Format turns into sultai
Oh you sweet summer child. Imagine actually believing this.
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>>66237036
if you’re not playing blue white or black in legacy and so slow you lose to combo you deserve it, fuck off faggot there are plenty of hate cards available
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>>66237053
>Burn
>Not having a good MU vs TES and arguably S&T
You are really clueless lol
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>>66237169
take your meds schizo
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Am I the only one hoping for an entirely new land cycle in MH?
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>>66237312
Nice pringle
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I want the rest of the sword of X and Y cycle.
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>>66237312
>mfw snow dual lands
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>>66237537
All you are getting is the Sword of Diversity and Acceptance.
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>>66237566
>big mood
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>>66237618
Forgot the card image
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>>66237566
So I'm a pretty liberal guy, having went outside before and such. This is fucking gross, though. I didn't even hate the card art before reading that, but now I'm only going to think
> a white guy couldn't add that layer of depth
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>>66237864
>going outside
But why?
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>>66237890
No one makes my tendies for me, so I must venture forth to earn them
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>>66237914
Damn, anon, that's a rough way to live. Mine are just magically delivered to my mom's basement.
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>>66237566
Wat? I mean, I knew the people at WotC were retarded, but this is a whole new level. I just can't. I can't.
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>>66237618
That sounds white and green
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>>66237989
And yet it is mono-black. Go figure.
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>>66237312
>dual lands that require you to reveal a card from your hand to enter untapped
Fuck the reserved list
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>>66237618
>>66237765
>>66237989
Lmao
I can already see it.
>everytime you attack give your opponent a card of his choice from your hand, if you can't sacrifice a permanent
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>>66238018
>Fuck the reserved list
What would even happen if they did That?

In a better world: prices plummet, investors fuck off, and things are good for the players. But what would really happen?
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>>66237914
Sounds too dangerous for me. Do you have a death wish or something?
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>>66237995
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>>66238048
Nah, that effect sounds like Hitchhiker's. That'll be the text for the Sword of Share and Enjoy.
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>>66238091
Next printing, "This creature is all colors and all genders"
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>>66238078
having the wishes in modern horizons, now that would be pod racing
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>>66238091
Kinda fitting since she’s a mutt
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>>66238117
That would be too much on the nose don't you think?
Some poor multicultural whamen migrant orange man bad can't refuse because thanks to open borders, she is already a citizen.
Oh, and let's make them show up after the war has been fought by white people to undermine whatever world they fought to survive.
REEE
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>>66238205
>fought by white people
Lmao
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>>66238297
Also Gideon did a lot of the work and he's like... uh... What race is Gideon this week?
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>>66238297
black man good
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>>66238342
Except when he’s played against you
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How much time before ugin get more expensive than jace?
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>>66238072
massive lawsuit
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>>66238362
He was the big bad planeswalker, too good for modern.
There are far less on the market of ugin and ugin is a far better card so everything speaks towards ugin would be the more expensive card.
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>>66238297
>teferi
>fighting
C O W A R D
O
W
A
R
D
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>>66238362
>>66238752
Are you guys retarded? Jace is still climbing. Ugin is played just in Tron.
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>>66238072
They would loose more money than they could ever make from a single set.
Do you think hasbro wants investors to "fuck off"?
It is a bloody miracle they have been able to sell a cardgame so many years.
Do you think keyforge will exist in 25 years?
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>>66238872
How do I stop being a timmy that buys 9000 Elderspell and become a whale?
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>>66238820
>dropkicks your mother from behind
Nothin personnel
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>>66238872
>They would loose more money than they could ever make from a single set

I didn't know they were still selling alpha boxes.
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Spicey
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>>66238738
Would that actually hold up in court? Is it possible to prove some sort of breach of an implied contract? Sounds shaky.
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>>66238917
Secrets of the trade amirite
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>>66238738
The lawsuit itself wouldn’t do shit to them. The real problem would be the discontent that drives that hypothetical lawsuit.
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>>66238908
Time travel abortions is a yellow belly sport.
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>>66238939
>not playing fetches to thin your deck
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>>66238991
it would bankrupt hasbro
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>>66238958
>Would that actually hold up in court?
probably 50/50
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>>66238917
They don't, but they have previously made a promise to their customers to not reprint a list of cards (the reserve list) and people will sue them for breaking that contract and they will loose money from defending against this lawsuit and a lot more if they loose.
And for what?
To reprint cards they have already made?
People will go crazy over new cards they can make without this risk, so there is no point doing it.
If they do it once, the price of old cards will plummet and everyone will be upset. If they do it all the time, it wouldn't actually be a driving factor to sell a specific set would it?

If you want cheap RL cards, buy Chinese fakes, those are much more likely to stay the same cost regardless of what the market is.
But you won't do that because you don't want to be marked as cheap.
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>>66239103
>made a promise to their customers to not reprint a list of cards (the reserve list) and people will sue them for breaking that contract

I dunno, that doesn't sound like a binding contract.
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>>66239159
The precise definition of promissory estoppel varies from state to state, but its elements are basically the same. In order to establish promissory estoppel, you need to prove several things:
The existence of a promise;
The promise is one that the promisor should reasonably expect to induce the promisee to rely on it to their detriment;
The promise actually did cause the promisee to justifiably change their position in reliance on it; and
Injustice can be avoided only by enforcement of the promise.
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>at lgs for modern night
>first match is against the tronmutt attentionwhore
>she gets absolutely destroyed 2-0 and drops after that

Felt good to put that smug cunt in her place bros. Turns out she's shit at limited and constructed.
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>>66239525
Based.
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>>66239525
Tron is an easy matchup to win, why does that make her a bad player?
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>>66239888
She's usually so smug about going undefeated. It was past time to knock her down a peg.
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>>66237566
I hate this artwork so much.
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>>66238858
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>>66238908
>*teleports behind you*
>*erases your time*
Nothing personnel bambino
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>>66239525
They must be right when they say winning fnm is better than sex
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>>66240073
Okay, I don't follow her blog.
Tron is a good deck, but it have bad matchups and it is easily stopped. As with most modern decks, it is very easy to pilot, but it doesn't matter how complex a deck is.
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>>66239217
>>66239103
>>66239159
>be kid
>mommy promises to bring me to ice cream
>she tired and doesn't stop
>sue her for promissory estoppel
>????
>profit
Promissory Estoppel is a joke, only in a jew infested cuckland it can ever be considered to be a legit thing.
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>>66240275
Where else is Ugin played?
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>>66240453
fails 2 and 4.
A mother could not promise to always supply a child an endless amount of icecream and there is no injustice if a kid doesn't bankrupt his mother for not getting more icecream.
It is not a reasonable contract to enforce.

Wizards made a promise NOT to do a thing, so it doesn't cost them anything to honor this agreement. It has been confirmed and talked about several times, so it is actually a reasonable promise, not just a one time utterance that could be misinterpreted.
And more important to what I think, Wizards think it is a bad idea to go back on this promise.
They can make any card they'd like, there is no reason for them to do it just to make cardboard cheaper for new players.
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>>66240640
>>Wizards made a promise NOT to do a thing, so it doesn't cost them anything to honor this agreement.
But that is factually wrong, they're a business that prints game cards and they promised to not print cards so it actually financially damages them to not be able to print a viable product.

Also the mother was not coerced to make the promise and she only promised to provide supply for ice cream once, not endlessly.
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>>66240443
200 iq post i have no idea why so many people treat tron like the format boogieman when it doesnt do anything the first 2 turns and doesnt always have tron on turn 3 every game

i actually find the deck rather slow and easy to go under also this card fucks me over so hard it isnt funny

>>66239525
have sex u smelly incel i dropped bc my husband got hurt at work not bc i dropped a game
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Good guy decks
>Rock
>Jund
>DnT
>Spirits
>Amulet Titan

Neutral decks
>Burn
>Elves
>Humans
>UW control
>Death's Shadow
>Hardened Scales

Bad guy decks
>Tron
>Dredge
>Phoenix
>Neobrand
>Ad Nauseam
>Storm
>Prison
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>>66240753
>>66239525
This has to be fake.
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>>66240761
I mostly agree but spirits isn't a good guy.

>guys have hexproof and uncounterable, and just Queller any boardwipes that get around hexproof
It's not actually interactive, despite posing as a creature deck.
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>>66240884
i used to play spirits its really weak to hand disruption and very top deck dependent since it has no card filtering or selection
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>>66240775
I hope its real
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>>66240753
I don't know either. I think it is a good example of a fair deck. It ramps out big threats, stop their ramp and you stop stop the deck or make it very easy to beat them.
There are slow decks which obviously can't beat them, a good example is lantern, actually, their worst card is chromatic sphere, but still.
I play a deck that needs insanely bad draws to not beat tron and 2-0 is much more likely than 2-1 if they play the standard green version.
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>>66240761
>Dredge
>Bad
Sup Rabbi
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>>66240761
>wanting to be the good guy
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Are there any fun budget Grixis decks?
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>>66241183
>budget
>3 color
Don't do that to yourself.
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>>66240761
>tfw has goy
Rise up lads.
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>endstep gifts ungiven
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>>66241258
That's fair, how about just Dimir then? I've got two shocks and a check so I've got a partial mana base if that matters.
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>>66241183
The best budget decks are the ones you brew yourself.
Doing one color can make the mana base reasonable, 2 colors is bad and 3 colors is just terrible.
Also, certain cards are modern stables and thus more expensive than others.
In modern, you can brew almost anything from a list of stables and it would probably work.
Going outside these, you have to factor in a ton of things, especially how small your friend group is and what they are playing.
If your friends are like mine, then they bring a new tier 1 deck every week, so adjusting for their decks is pointless.

Here is a good base if you are in doubt how to brew your own stuff:
Black means you can include a discard package, do that unless you really are struggling for room.
Red means you can include a burn/removal package.
Blue means you can include a counter package.
Which counterspells depends on your deck.
Now look at the list again, which color can you afford to remove?
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>>66241408
what about white?
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>>66237006
>he's opposed to printing more interaction
What a faggot.
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>>66241431
White have good sideboard enchantments and removal.
It is not a color most decks splashes for a specific set of cards.

Look at the current modern decks and see what they are doing.
How many creatures, how many removal spells, what kind of removal spells etc.

Like how did a deck like grixis death shadow ever become popular?
Why is it good?
Can you replicate this in a budget deck? Probably not death shadow, but you could easily throw down a big threat and protect it with discard and counterspells.
How is this deck different to humans?
Could you make a budget version of humans?
What modern deck would you build if money was not a problem and what is the most expensive card in that list?
Is it vital? Is it the only expensive component?

Time to do your own research.
The only good budget decks these days is ad naus and storm.
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>>66241408
That'd probably be red then, I don't have much if any good burn cards, and while I don't have many great counterspells and discard spells. I think they're better than the burn spells I have. Thanks.
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how do you shuffle your hand when you cast faithless looting or draw a card? i just fan out my cards and merge one half into the other a couple times. it's crazy watching people do that spastic flicking really fast though
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>>66241527
is there anything to white weenies anymore?
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>hello i'd like 4 bitterblossom please
>that'll be $180 plus tax
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>>66241657
>chase rare from 10-year-old set
>mythic in premium sets
what did you expect?
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>>66241657
There is budget soul sisters, humans and dnt you can try. They are very easy to shut down though.
Stake sisters is actually rather expensive and doesn't really have many stables, so that might not be a direction I would go.
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>>66241657
>not just getting chinaman fakes for 2.5$ a card
lmaoing @ ur life paypig
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How big is your MH budget, say the set is great, how much will you spend?
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>>66241907
Dumb question, I'll just get what I need.
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>>66241907
I got some store credit, so I'll get 2 boxes just by adding a difference of 120€.
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>>66241906
What does that slutty angel restore other than boners?
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>>66241999
>just by adding a difference of 120€.
More like JUST.
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>>66241907
At least one sealed and the relevant singles. I don't see myself drafting it a ton.
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>>66241964
I understand that sentiment, but if MH is truly a good set I'll buy a handfull of packs for the hell of it. I like nice cards.
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>>66242032
Why would you ever buy a box? Don't tell me you're gonna open it.
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>>66242101
A few packs don't really require a "budget". I open a few packs once in a while just to scratch the itch but that's about it. If I buy sealed it's only as a long term investment.
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>>66242137
If they had prerelease packs I'd buy a few of those instead. Sadly modern is not allowed to be fun, which means I'll ultimately buy less stuff. Handfull of boosters, if I get really lucky I'll buy a few more. Not counting singles ofc.
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>>66242186
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-modern-horizons-2019-02-28
>But why wait that long? Modern Horizons is going to have Prerelease events at local game stores June 8–9!
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>>66242273
>events
>not literally have a special buyable product at said events
I want to crack something special not get a card slipped up my ass. Which is ironic since this set is "apparently" supposed to be drafted.
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>>66242346
every set is supposed to be drafted. that's why millions of shitty, unplayable cards exist. god i hate limited so much
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>>66242273
Forgot to say, I dunno why people treat this product like a specialty product, this is by all means a Standard set but in name. It's going to be printed into oblivion. I'm sure other sets like this will follow, parallel to the Standard ones, possibly more spread out, I figure one each summer and one exclusive reprint set each holiday season.
>>66242346
The fuck are you talking about? The set will have your regular prerelease package.
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>>66242373
What I meant is, they have prerealease packs in standard. Why not in modern if everything is supposed to be drafted.
This is the problem, buying a whole box seems like a dumb waste to me. I won't sell the cards so I'm not looking for profit, but hey sitting on a few nice cards has that treasure effect. Fat packs and prerelease packs are the kind of size I still find ok to buy. Single packs just make me lose interest for lack of choice.
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>>66242423
I looked around and only saw the prerelease card given away at prerelease. No talk about packs. Show me I'm mistaken, I wish to be wrong.
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>Expansion code
>MH1
>1
They're not even trying to hide it LMAO. We gonna get juiced hard with this shit.

>>66242525
Again, the fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to say, in a retarded way, that there's no package and they will just hand you the 6 packs from a regular box + your promo card? Where the fuck have you found that info? It's not a viable option, they wouldn't let stores manage the promos because the best ones would never reach the hands of the players. Wizards is not that retarded.
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>>66234040
Then play Legacy and run both
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>>66242627
I'm talking about this.
They specifically mentioned you'll get to buy them on wots prerelease.
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Reminder that BBD was $3/pack

Why is MH $5/pack?
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>>66242739
>"modern cards r better goy"
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>>66242709
That's the pack you use to do the prerelease, retard. Where did you get the info the prerelease kit will be different for Horizons?
>>66242739
>Why is MH $5/pack?
>Modern Horizons will be printed for as long as demand holds.[10] It will release on Magic Online on June 13, with a booster price of $6.99 (regular booster packs cost $3.99)
Pay up goy.
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BBD was a mistake goy, it was too cheap : we know this because the lgs's used to sell boxes for more than what we expected.
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Living end bros where we at?
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>>66242739
MH for 5$ a pack?
What do you mean by MH for 7$ a pack?
I don't know where you read MH packs were about to be sold for 9$ but the real price will be around 11$ actually.
And believe at 13$ a pack, it's really a bargain!
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>>66242768
>>66242867
>>66242883
>>66242944
all this antisemitism is truly vile. /mmg/ really has turned into a shithole
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>>66242987
Imagine being this much of a good goy
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>>66242987
>66242768
>66242867
>66242883
>66242944
>WOTC SHOULD GIVE ME FREE STUFFS
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>>66242867
I read the magic prerelease info. It never stated you could just walk in there and buy 12, like with wots prerelease. But on prerelease you'll get a prerelease card if you attend.
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>>66242987
there is nothing wrong with antisemitism
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>>66242987
>Tell-a-wew
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>>66243107
You know that communism is a jewish noahide doctrine and Marx was a jew, right?
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>>66243115
>I read the magic prerelease info
WHERE YOU STUPID FUCK?
Jesus christ conversing with you is driving me nuts, you're doing this on purpose are you? What's your first language, fucking Chinese or something?
Why the fuck would they feel the need to state that you can buy 12 prereleaes kits? Did they state you could on the "magic prerelease info", whatever that shit means, for War of the Spark?
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>>66243107
Yes, WOTC should give clients free stuff. Also 4 bucks doesn't look free to me.
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>>66242987
what's more mindblowing is that people would expect anywhere on 4chan to not be casually antisemitic
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>>66237566
White guys cant do eyebrow shifts? Also likely a white guy could do better facial expressions because the shadows on lighter skin have greater contrast.
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>>66243202
https://wpn.wizards.com/en/event/prerelease-modern-horizons
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>>66243161
this pretty much. it's telling how these alt right shitheads push for capitalism and shit on companies when people who perceive to be nonwhite start winning at their own game.
capitalism is indiscriminate. if you children can't afford to play as wizards, you should move on to a different hobby.
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What are some good mono red "troll" cards for multiplayer kitchen table with a soft modern limit (i.e. older cards are considered "bullshit" by my nu male friends). Picked up Dictate of the Twin Gods, Breaking Point, a few others. Thoughts? I want stuff that doesn't necessarily hurt the other players so there can be some manipulating and messing with their heads.
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>>66243347
confusion in the ranks and grip of chaos are time-honored "fuck every single person at this table" multiplayer cards which are also not actually as fun as they look because it turns out it takes ages to resolve anything

EDH general would probably know more
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>>66237566
>>66237755
>>66237864
>>66237975
>>66240220
>mfw
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https://www.justgamesrochester.com/modern-horizons-pre-release-and-preorder/
>10 bucks a pop
Pay the fuck up goyim!
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>>66243347
splinter twin
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>>66243347
Burning inquiry
Redirect
Guttural Response
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>>66243265
>Rather than issue an allocation of Prerelease Packs, prize boosters, and Early Sale Promotion product, each with a designated use, we'll try a simpler format: a single allocation of boosters to apportion as you choose between events, prizes, and advance sales.
Okay so there won't be a package? So what? I mean, sure, for a more expensive product it seems pretty fucking jewish but who cares.
I'm more preoccupied about the promos not being identifiable by the stores. Hope they use a better packaging than Box Toppers.
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>>66240761
>amulet
fucking lol
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>>66241436

What do you expect of someone who enjoys solitaire?
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>>66243520
>60 bucks prerelease
>300 bucks box
What the actual fuck? Not even Ultimate Masters was that expensive, I paid 250 for a box at release and that product is actually good.
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>>66243636
The whole point I was making is that I like pre-packs. I'm bummed out cause I won't be able to buy a few.
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>>66243733
In any case you need to work on your communication, son, how fucking hard is it to say "it's on the wpn page for the event" when someone asks?
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>>66243301
You are pants on head retarded nigger, (((positive discrimination))) is the antithesis of capitalism. And they put this agenda on place because they aren't enough shitskins winning for their taste to begin with.
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>>66243347
Madcap experiment into Platinum is great if they win by damage.
Blood moon is great if they run many colors (especially if red isn't one)
Chandra and hazoret is good in multiplayer if you generally just want to hide behind a bridge.
What do you want to play though.
Can you Karn + lattice? That is pretty good and it only takes one sideboard slot and you can have other artifacts that is good in multiplayer.
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>>66243773
>waaah we rigged the game for whites but jews are beating us at our own game they must be cheating!
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>>66243772
I didn't specifically remember where I read that info. More importantly how did you not know this? Literally put "Modern horizons prerelease" in google and voila.
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>>66237618
>>66238048
>whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, create a token that's a copy of target creature that player controls, except it's black
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>>66243833
Lmao, token black guys for days
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I got a playset of the new karns for cheap, and a mycosinty lattice too. Now I have some tronlands laying around. Is there a good tron-prison deck which doesn't use Those 100000$ a piece planeswalkers like Karn and Ugin?
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>>66243874
No :^)
jk
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>>66240761

Based.
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>>66243874
U Tron
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>>66243956
ew...
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>>66243956
U tron plays with a one of Ugin and one of Snappy. Ugin is more important. Although, the deck its not unplayable without them. Chalices somewhere on the 75 are also staples, again not unplayable without them, just better
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>>66234077
*casts Scapeshift*
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>>66244037
ugin is only $30 you poorfaggot
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>>66234240
I'm sorry were you in a coma when Eldrazi Winter happened?
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>>66244087
It is 60€ in Europe.
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>>66244114
when did ugin become a $75 card wtf
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>>66244087
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>>66244037
Well, I have 4x chalice and 4x Bridge. Just wanted to build a colorless prison style deck relying on tronlands.

Btw, how good is blue tron compared to the classic Mono green?
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>>66244124
As discussed earlier, there are fewer ugins in rotation than Jace the mind sculptor and it sees about as much play.
Tron/post is a popular deck.
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>>66244087
>ugin is only $30 you poorfaggot
Kek
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>>66244087
Congrats on being retarded
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>>66244236
You can easily do that.
The green package is good because green offer better card draw and thus more consistently turn 3 tron.
Blue is slower, but doesn't get hurt by a bloodmoon as much.
Just add a Karn package to challice and bridge and you can play anything you want.
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WOTC GIVE ME MODERN TORTURED EXISTENCE OR GO TO HELL
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>>66244392
>Green offers better card draw
everyday we stray further from God

So I'll just try the Karn great creator/bridge/chalice package and choose between some card draw spells and I'm set
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>>66244236
It loses to fast aggro, burn, G tron and merfolk. Srsly fuck green tron. An early chalice on 1 may help, but its still difficult.
It has a decent chance at winning vs control and combo in general I feel.
I love the mindslaver lock combo. Its humiliating to be mindslaved. The interaction the deck provides and the salt... ohh, that akone sells the deck for me, its feels so good
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>>66244460
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i bet enlightened tutor would fix modern
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>>66243470
>>66243544
>>66243525
>>66243799
Thanks anons, Confusion in the Ranks is DEFINITELY going on my list. As are most of the others. I want to play cards that benefit the other players so they don't want to knock me out of the game, but also so that I have something to play so I'm not just sitting on instants waiting for someone to attack me.
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>>66244524
>Mox opal

hell no, i sold mine like 2 months ago. not oing to buy them again
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>>66244812
It's ok anon, they are not really 100% necessary, they mostly are here to give more ways of landing chalice@1/2 turn1, and have the little upside of being food for throne. Just put bridge x3md instead and remove maybe one throne or both for something else. Hell you can even play monkey instead.
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https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2115225107/terese-nielsens-tokens-of-spirit
I want hot soldierwomen/angel tokens with delicious midriffs.
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>>66234011
Every BG/x midrange deck will look to slam him down. Mind you without Deathrite Shaman he's much harder to slam out turn 2 but with Birds/Noble Hierarch it's still possible.
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>>66244906
>nigger angel
>nigger elemental
uh based dyke in a trump hat
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>>66244970
>she supports trump so she must be racist
i can't tell if this is based or redpilled
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>>66244970
>nigger angel
Where?
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So i've been testing Finale of Devastation in Elves and for real it's a legitimately decent GSZ impersonator. You're not getting Dryad Arbor for X = 0 on turn 1 but turn 2 you can get you another mana elf or the Arbor and later on you can bring back any bolted Archdruid's, not to mention you can now tutor up a Gaddock Teeg or another hatebear much earlier. Right now it's undecided on whether you want to play CoCo+Finale, Chord+Finale, Lead+Finale and of course you can still play regular CoCo+Chord or CoCo+Lead in Elves but Finale remains a very good sidegrade option right now. I suspect the Kiki Chord lists will have better consistency now too.
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>>66245018
literally scroll down on the kickstarter page
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>>66244236
U Tron goes better against control and combo. You're much slower but you have genuine inevitability with the Mindslaver Lock.
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>>66244970
black is the future of the white race, time to accept it goy. There is no alternatives.
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>>66245058
>straight hair
>a nigger
Amazonian at best
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>>66243694
Amulet is too cool and big brained to be a bad guy deck
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>>66244397
Fauna shaman
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>>66245047
I play GW Elves with Devoted/Vizier, and Finale is fucking amazing in this build.
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>>66245140
black anon here. black girls can have straight hair pic related
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>>66245410
nigger
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>>66245410
No, they don't. They straighten them. The hair in the pic are obviously straightened
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>>66245410
>black girl
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>>66245410
Nigger.

Post noose around neck with timestamp.
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what a welcoming thread this is
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>>66245667
You have to go back
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>>66245410
get out nigger. We only have one "black" here and it's based qt waifu tronmutt. We don't need you unless you have boobs too.
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>>66245667
>when the tumblrina get lost once again on the internets
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>>66245140
Pretty sure this is the one he was talking about.

>>66245410
That girl is probably 70+% white. In fact, you can accurately tell how white a ""black"" person is by their skin color. If they aren't African dark, like black black, they have a ton of white genes.
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>>66245687
>based qt waifu tronmutt

Cringe and cyanidepilled.
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>>66245687
hang your self
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>enjoy playing vintage on xmage
>tfw you'll never EVER play paper vintage
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This place is worse than /v/. Shame that /pol/ infested /tg/ now.
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>nigger here nigger there
Why is everyone obsessed with niggers? No one cares. Let's shitpost about how we have countless cards over 50 bucks in this retarded format instead.
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>>66245140
not this one

>>66245713
this one
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>>66245811
Have you considered, I dunno, fucking off? It's pretty easy to close your browser, nigger.
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>>66245811
Good, this will drive the plebbitors away. This is not a safe space faggot.
We /hurtbox/ nao
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>>66245811
polshit isn't even close to as bad as the endless magical realm and tough badass fighting women threads that endlessly shit up the catalog
if I could have a board only for warhams and mtg I would
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>>66245811
someone said nigger on 4chan. how horrible.
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>>66245848
I'm sorry, but this is 4channel territory now, boomer.
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>>66245842
The fuck is magical realm, anyways? I see it on this board, but never investigated.
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>>66245815
>Let's shitpost about how we have countless cards over 50 bucks in this retarded format instead

Actually the format have been a lot cheaper since a year. Countless cards' prices tanked thanks to reprints and most non reprinted staples remained stable.
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>>66245870
Go to hell, gookmoot.
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>>66245876
in a nutshell basically /d/ threads without images
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>>66245890
Probably better that I never peeked inside. Thanks, my dude.
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>>66245870
>mfw hiromoot crying in lateral safety position because not a single advertiser accepted to come after the split because every board remain racists af
kek
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>>66245687
Based
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>>66245879
>Actually the format have been a lot cheaper since a year. Countless cards' prices tanked thanks to reprints and most non reprinted staples remained stable.
Bullshit. Every single significant card that was reprinted is already almost back to its previous pricepoint. Liliana, Jace, Chalice, Bridge etc. Other expensive cards that were reprinted are still obscenely expensive. Decks that have seen expensive cards reprinted have had other cards rise up in price.
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>>66245842
>polshit isn't even close to as bad as the endless magical realm and tough badass fighting women threads that endlessly shit up the catalog
It's actually worse because political shitflinging can derail any thread while magical realm threads are really obvious and easy to avoid.
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>>66246182
Why should it derail a thread, though? Have we forgotten where we are so easily?

If you faggots can't handle some friendly hate, wtf are you even doing here? And meanwhile I just killed you on t3 with Ezuri.
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>>66246182
how exactly do you derail a general whose purpose is simply to be an eternal conversation? if it is persistent and continuous I could see it being a real disruption but simply capping a thread that has no particular conversation going at the moment is hardly as much of a problem as the endless tide of porn threads that actually delete and push away whole other topics
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Fishchads whereyou@?
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>>66246288
They're off hanging out with friends instead of here on this shithole.

I'm kidding. We all know you fishfuckers have no friends.
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do people who unironically play merfolk really exist?
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>>66246440
based ecelebs like nikachu
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>>66246440
They do. Guy at my LGS actually tried Hardened Fish through the use of Metallic Mimic. It didn't work, but I thought it was a cool idea.
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>>66246421
I don't play merfolk. I just like calling them out.
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>>66246477
Backpedal harder, faggot.
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>>66246517
on what?
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>>66236192
why the fuck do you need THREE mycosynth lattice
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>>66244524
blood moon
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>>66246914
it's not tron you dumdum, moon is a big nothingburger.
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I'm building a Rakdos deck. Nothing too competitive just good enough to play casually. Blackcleave Cliffs and fetches are expensive as hell. Can I use Blood Crypts and Dragonskull Summits and still expect the deck to function relatively well? Are there better budget options than Dragonskull Summit?
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>>66247525
>>>/tg/stdg
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>>66244970

b-b-b-but the black angel is weaker than the white angel so you nazi fucks can feel fine about it
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>>66245885

DIFFERENT DOMAIN, DIFFERENT ALEXA RANK
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sup my boyos
Is it possible to totally flatten a water damaged card who is dry since a while?
Few years ago a canalisation broke just above where one of my cards box was. Sadly it was were i was stockpilling my old cards, and i had duals among them. I originally envelopped them into toilet paper with a fan blowing juste above for two days, then put them in a perfect sleeve then right in the middle of a fat encyclopedia for few more days. They were waved as all fuck still.

Then since then they are double sleeved and in toploaders. Recently i checked them and they aren't super wavey anymore but still enough to not be tourney legal i think.
What could i do to make them really flat? I was thinking using an iron, or maybe put them between 2 plexi plates and slowly roll over it with my car, but i don't know if it will be really effective.
Any ideas?
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>>66248481
>ideas
stop being poor and stupid and buy new ones and store them properly
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>>66248494
It's not cheap shocklands you drooling retard, i speak about Usea, bayous, tundra and several badlands, one of which is black bordered. It's not the kind of shit you can buy back like it's nothing.
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>>66245811
same thing happened to /fa. i don't go on many boards but i assume every board has been overrun by pol at this point

>>66245836
no u

>>66245837
you are worse than the redditor bogeyman

>>66243347
stranglehold, depending on your meta. warp world, worldfire, obliterate, etc are what i would consider "troll". possibility storm is another one that falls into the same Stack Nightmare category as confusion in the ranks

>>66240761
close.
spirits goes in neutral, humans goes in bad guy, prison goes in good guy.
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>>66248549
>humans goes in bad guy, prison goes in good guy
Absolutely retarded, it's the exact opposite.
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>>66248533
>It's not the kind of shit you can buy back like it's nothing.
it is if you have a job, I doubt anyone would think of shocks when you say "duals"
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>>66248572
ok rothschild, nice story
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>>66248594
even assuming you mean beta badlands, where do you work where a 1000 dollar discretionary purchase is somehow beyond the pale but you can afford to blow tons of money on cardboard crack
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Why the fuck does UW control have so many NIGGERS in it?
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>>66248622
its the designated nigger color combo because it makes the least sense thematically
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>>66248613
Not everyone is a billionaire anon, i own these duals since a long time, i purchased them for something like 40 bux a piece back then. And i don't meant a beta dual for the badland its an italian fbb if i remember well. I can't pay myself new duals, i don't have the means, and even if i did i wouldnt blow maybe up to several grands for a handful of cards. If i ask the question it's because i'm poor and i need the money to pay my bills. So the best looking they are, the more i could ask for them.
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>>66248698
consider a remedial english language class it would be a better investment of your time and money
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>>66248622
Oh my God that art is disgusting. Fucking jesus christ
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>>66248622
Then i don't advise you to look at the actual weenie white splash U deck in standard. The deck is entirely made of coal-tier niggers and mutt strong wymyn.
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>>66248743
Why is it called white weenies if they're all niggers? What's the deal with that?!
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>>66248755
calling it nigger babies would be doing the delicious licorice snack a disservice
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>>66248715
I don't want to spend more money, i need to earn some. And i don't see what's wrong with my english, especially for someone who learnt it alone. But if you want we can speak in my mother tongue, i'm sure as a proud amerimutt you master plenty of others languages :)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLYD--My30
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>>66248755
That's a good question anon, i think other anon here pretty much nailed it >>66248630
Also they want the nogs to feel at home in europe so they give them an european lore (medieval plated armors, various european medieval weapons, etc..). Just like the BBC put a shit ton of niggers in their historical documentaries so the kids thinks "oh well, we always were a multikultu country i guess".
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>>66248549
>i assume every board has been overrun by pol at this point
How are you not getting it? People who are on /pol/ are regular 4chan users. They go to other boards too. You were always amongst /pol/.
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>>66249093

>>66249093

>>66249093
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>>66248755
Usual propaganda, just like the BMWF ads you see everywhere, it's all about trying to convince the whites, especially young women (who can/will carry black children) and the next voting generation, to accept the endless waves of niggers invading and replacing their ageing population. In countries like Germany or Italy, the natives women have in average 1.3 kids. Way below the replacement ratio. The only exception being France, and it's only because their country is filled with packs of niggers. Meanwhile in Congo or Togo the average is 7.9 kids per woman. The subafrican population average age is 15 years old. In europe it's 43 years old. Europe population is dying, and instead of putting in place natalist policies, the traitorous elites decide to import their next wageslaves, dumber and accepting pretty much anything, perfectly fit to serve their masters in giant factories with brainless tasks without going on strike.
By 2050 half the population growth will be added by africa alone. In 1900 Africa had 100 millions inhab. Today it's 1.2 billion, 12x growth in a century thanks to the white man industries, vaccines, food and infrastructure. In 30 years it's projected to be 2.3 billions.
While in europe the numbers will be dwilling and the average population will be 50+ years old.

The situation will soon be totally untenable in Africa, the continent can't sustain such population growth with the actual infrastructures. You have to remember 95% of the sub saharan infrastructure (hospitals, farms, roads, trains, power grid..) was built by the white men during colonisation. And since the decolonisation, nothing replaced it or even just the upkeep wasn't done. Everything in black africa is in ruins beside few enclaves where the local warlords or corrupted politicians can trade natural resources for white infrastructure.
And the problem isn't just technologic, most of black ruled countries can't get their shit together because the politicians are so corrupted.
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>>66249098
you might be autistic
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>>66249098
suit
Their leaders are in exil, killed and replaced by the next ones every 3 months, you have constant civil wars and regime changes. You can't have any longterm vision for a country if you go from communism to ultraliberalism and vice versa 5 times a year.
We are heading toward a human drame on a scale never seen before. Half the locals will kill each others in endless civil wars, the other half will try their chances elsewhere, leaving misery for the golden goose they think europe is. A lot of them will end up captured and enslaved by smugglers and radical muslims militias in Mali, Niger or Tchad. And for the fews (still several millions yearly mind you) who will be able to reach europe, there is no future. A recent study in germany showed 95% of the migrants who came during the syrian war (fun thing is it was mostly blacks, while the black population is nearly 0% in Syria..) are, few years after the conflict, still on welfare and didn't made any procedure to find a job.
To make it even worst, most european countries refuse to perform the clinical test to determine the age, and visa are automatically granted to minors. So we end up in clownish situations where you have 50 years old nogs saying they are 14 and they automatically become citizens. Every one in the administration knows it, but no one do anything. It's called high treason.

I've nothing against blacks, and it's sad to see the calamities they are living. But by offering them our technologies and our charity, we transformed them into a lethal parasitic tumor. Sure, it please the globohomo elite, but the commoners like you and me will see some shit in the incoming decades, and not the funny kind. It will be a bloodbath, not only if the whites try to claim back their continent after ousting their traitorous (((elite))) who allowed this situation, but mainly within Africa,
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>>66249098
>>66249306
nobody will ever read this shit
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>>66249306
(suit)
One could claim China is in the process of exporting their whole industrial complexes to africa, just like the US and europe did 20 years back with China.
But eventually they will fail, just like europe failed when they attempted it. Niggers' productivity is close to 0, they have no work ethic and only the clan/family matter to them. And the chineses can't simply import their industries, they have to import all the infrastructures necessary for it's functioning. A factory is useless without roads, water and power grid. Just like we did back then, they have to build the entire continent logistical structure. And unlike some colonial powers like the belgians, the french, the portugueses or the italians who were partially colonizing for humanitarian (educating the good savage) and 'saving of the soul' (via mass evangelisation) reasons, the chink only have the profits in mind. You have excellent scholar books nowaday explaining the "looting of africa by the evil white man" is a total myth (not for the anglos tho). Most colonizing countries spent around 5 to 8 times more than the revenus they earned in africa via the natural resources exploitation. You can imagine how much does it cost to equip a country like the Uganda or the RDC with rail roads you have to manufacture at home, ship, earthwork to flaten the ground, assemble it then install the power grid etc...Some chinese companies alrdy understood this and started to move away from africa their factories.

I could go on for hours but all this to say we must stop this plague and it's terrible to say but our best option to save as humanly as possible the human race from this threat is to find an ethnovirus targeting black populations. I know for a fact Israel is alrdy working on it.
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>>66249342
good point, i finished anyway. I don't even know why i started to rant about it, most likely no one will give a flying fuck about my wall of text lol.
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>>66248997
/pol was intended to be a containment board
you were supposed to keep your pol trash confined to your designated receptacle
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>>66249098
>>66249306
>>66249469
this is all true but this isn't the place for it fampai
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>>66245890
What's /d/? I can't see it on the bar at the top of the page.
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>>66250358
type it into the url instead of /tg/, newfriend. soon you'll be one of us.
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>>66248622
WAKANDA FOREVER
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>>66249098
>>66249306
>>66249469
Unironically excellent posts, anon. Thank you for making them.
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>>66250854
ty anon
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>>66249098
>>66249306
>>66249469
Lol i love this



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