Once you pop you just can't stop edition.Modern horizons spoilers on May 20th (source: blogatog aka mark rosewater's tumblr)Old: >>66214728TQ: What's the one reprint everyone thinks will be in MH that you know won't be?
>>66233687TNN and Leovold will 100% not be in MH. I'm on the fence for Strix and Containment Priest.I do think Fact or Fiction, Foil, Gerard's Verdict, Vindicate, Lightning Rift, Astral Slide, Decimate, and Unexpectedly Absent all can and should be in the set.
>>66233687>TQ: What's the one reprint everyone thinks will be in MH that you know won't be?I really want them to print counterspell and I'm really afraid they won't
>>66233937Would leovold really be too good for modern?
>>66234011I'm surprised I haven't heard people ask for it more, seems pretty fair with the insane amount of removal in the format
I want strix and stifle in modern NOW
>>66234011He would warp the format into predominately Sultai midrange and control variants.
>>66233969>I'm really afraid they won'tI hadn't even considered that possibility. Why would you inflict this doubt on me?
>>66234077no he wouldn't
>>66234093He absolutely will. The entire format will turn into a grindy halt with Sultai bullshit, Burn, and Tron being the only 3 tier 1 decks.
>>66233687>TQRishadan Port and Wasteland won't be in
What sub-$1 bulk trash rares can we expect to crack? Or more importantly which hot garbage mythics will eat up slots because muh reprint equity
>>66234111o i am laffin
>bbd was a $3 pack setwhy do competitive nonstandard formats always get cucked by wotc's pricing?
>>66234206Was DRS ever not banned in Modern? He honestly doesn't seem all that bad considering that Daze and Wasteland aren't in Modern to choke players out.
>>66234224He got the hammer just after bloodbraid when jund was still "too good." DRS is honestly the most broken card printed in at least 10 years.
>>66234224Jund played him and BBE after RTR released. Needless to say, Jund was fucking busted.
>>66234224Every deck was trying to splash him before he got banned. Fucking BW tokens was running him. It was absurd.
>>66234206>play nic fit for years in legacy>jotc ban sdt>switch to maverick>jotc ban drs>"we just felt like in a format where people spend large amounts of money to play in a stable meta drs was just too prevalent>"enjoy your 3-5 years of combo faggotry btw"
>>66234273you're right, they should ban Show and Tell
>>66234273>he doesn't enjoy combook gay boy go play standard
>>66234293not him but i dont enjoy combo i cant interact withjust give us some better tools to cripple combo decks and they can unban whatever degeneracy they want
>>66234308>more toolsin legacy you have more than enough tools
>>66234288why? show and tell is card disadvantage becasue the opponent can bring something in for nothing.
>Spell Queller, Flickerwisp, Resto Angel, and Eldrazi Displacer>mfw I attack for 9 with all the things that also countered/disrupted my opponents plans a minute agoIt just feels so efficient. Creatures that do something and then sit around to attack after are my favorite cards.
>>66234696yu gi oh might be for you
>>66234696spell queller shouldn't be able to counter supreme verdict desu
Don't mind me, I'll just be announced in 20 days.
>>66234848I honestly wouldn't be against it.t. merchad
>>66234848Imagine unironically believing this
>>66234848rather him than strix desu
>>66234817Uncounterable spells shouldnt exist to begin with.
would tnn save blue moon?
>>66234904It would save merfolk
>>66234817It doesn't tho :^)
>>66234077>He would warp the format into predominately Sultai midrange and control variants.If only.Playing that shit turn 3 in Modern right now seems pretty slow.
>>66234817>spell queller shouldn't be able to counter supreme verdict desuKek, stay mad.t. Spirits chad
How do you beat TNN? What cards hose it?
>>66235887You basically have to wrath, edict or race it right? You can't really do shit else.
>>66235945So it's gonna be Lili's edict, S. Verdict or what? Will Modern start playing other kill spells because of it? I mean, there's already a lot of fast creature decks, so I suppose many decks won't even notice it. Does TiTi hit it?
>>66235968There was a time in Legacy where some decks actually played squid!Gisela to race TNN. Really any deck that puts out aggro faster can beat out TNN but because it goes into an already pretty okay shell in Merfolk that might be easier said than done.
>>66235993On a second thought I really can't see how it will be useful for the decks that can use it other than Merfolk and some other aggro decks, if they even exist. They couldn't even block creatures with it, right? Slow control decks might want to do something else for 3 mana, or?>>66236010Toxic Deluge? Now that'd save GDS.
how good are spirits now? I want to pay tribal but I'm not gay enough to play elves or humans
>>66234960Merfolk is dead bro just accept it. A 3 mana 3/1 won't save it.
>>66236097Then get gayer. Elves forever.
havent played in a while, any new cards that improve the deck (besides new karn)
>>66236037TNN scoops to baneslayer which is one of its biggest flaws. It also gets destroyed by phoenix because it's bounced by TiTi and gets outraced so hard by birds and horrors. I'm not sure how good it would even be in Modern but it still shouldn't be printed because the card is a design mistake.
>>66236101It actually would, 4x TNN instead of 4x MoW, you lower the curve significantly, you can play merrow reejeryes again through vials since you need to go up to 4 (if you want to play them) and it covers exactly the spot that MoW did, which is a roadblock/wincon that can't be easily removed (merfolk was briefly a T1 deck with sightly over 3% representation before fatal push was printed, so the premium removal spells were bolts and paths but red or black/red spells like khologarns command were king before kaladesh), right the deck itself isn't in a bad spot it needs that extra unfair edge that the other decks have gained in the last few expansions.
>anime girl tribal combo deck is gayuh ok sweaty
https://mtg.gamepedia.com/File:Autumn_Burchett.jpgSay something nice to your mistress
>>66236408Back to /vg/
>>66236192Sunder shaman and return to nature.
>>66236192is this fun? tempted to try it online looks wacky
>>66236497thanks man>>66236516its fun in the sense of being extremely satisfying to pull of and knowing your opponent is seething. not fun in the sense of very competitive or consistent
>>66234273>Jotc ban top to stop miracles>Miracles is still tier 1 because CC+Top has always been a memelock and the real issue is fucking terminusI don’t even play top decks other than sometimes nickfit online an I am still salty.Also makes blue even fucking better.
>>66236585Also, maybe cindervines for the sideboard
>>66234336In anything non blue?You fucking don’t unless the combo is1. Dredge (if you lose against dredge you are bad)2. One turn kill that didn’t draw good and you made them discard shit3. High tide but high tide is literally TES but strictly worse
>>66236882most hosers are artifactsgo play standard or edh you little whiny faggot where you can turn em sideways all day
>>66237006>He thinks his amethyst is going to do much vs TES or S&T or TinFinsOk/10
>>66234111>Format turns into sultaiOh you sweet summer child. Imagine actually believing this.
>>66237036if you’re not playing blue white or black in legacy and so slow you lose to combo you deserve it, fuck off faggot there are plenty of hate cards available
>>66237053>Burn>Not having a good MU vs TES and arguably S&TYou are really clueless lol
>>66237169take your meds schizo
Am I the only one hoping for an entirely new land cycle in MH?
I want the rest of the sword of X and Y cycle.
>>66237312>mfw snow dual lands
>>66237537All you are getting is the Sword of Diversity and Acceptance.
>>66237618Forgot the card image
>>66237566So I'm a pretty liberal guy, having went outside before and such. This is fucking gross, though. I didn't even hate the card art before reading that, but now I'm only going to think > a white guy couldn't add that layer of depth
>>66237864>going outsideBut why?
>>66237890No one makes my tendies for me, so I must venture forth to earn them
>>66237914Damn, anon, that's a rough way to live. Mine are just magically delivered to my mom's basement.
>>66237566Wat? I mean, I knew the people at WotC were retarded, but this is a whole new level. I just can't. I can't.
>>66237618That sounds white and green
>>66237989And yet it is mono-black. Go figure.
>>66237312>dual lands that require you to reveal a card from your hand to enter untappedFuck the reserved list
>>66237618>>66237765>>66237989LmaoI can already see it.>everytime you attack give your opponent a card of his choice from your hand, if you can't sacrifice a permanent
>>66238018>Fuck the reserved listWhat would even happen if they did That?In a better world: prices plummet, investors fuck off, and things are good for the players. But what would really happen?
>>66237914Sounds too dangerous for me. Do you have a death wish or something?
>>66238048Nah, that effect sounds like Hitchhiker's. That'll be the text for the Sword of Share and Enjoy.
>>66238091Next printing, "This creature is all colors and all genders"
>>66238078having the wishes in modern horizons, now that would be pod racing
>>66238091Kinda fitting since she’s a mutt
>>66238117That would be too much on the nose don't you think?Some poor multicultural whamen migrant orange man bad can't refuse because thanks to open borders, she is already a citizen. Oh, and let's make them show up after the war has been fought by white people to undermine whatever world they fought to survive.REEE
>>66238205>fought by white peopleLmao
>>66238297Also Gideon did a lot of the work and he's like... uh... What race is Gideon this week?
>>66238297black man good
>>66238342Except when he’s played against you
How much time before ugin get more expensive than jace?
>>66238362He was the big bad planeswalker, too good for modern.There are far less on the market of ugin and ugin is a far better card so everything speaks towards ugin would be the more expensive card.
>>66238297>teferi>fightingC O W A R DOWARD
>>66238362>>66238752Are you guys retarded? Jace is still climbing. Ugin is played just in Tron.
>>66238072They would loose more money than they could ever make from a single set.Do you think hasbro wants investors to "fuck off"?It is a bloody miracle they have been able to sell a cardgame so many years.Do you think keyforge will exist in 25 years?
>>66238872How do I stop being a timmy that buys 9000 Elderspell and become a whale?
>>66238820>dropkicks your mother from behindNothin personnel
>>66238872>They would loose more money than they could ever make from a single setI didn't know they were still selling alpha boxes.
>>66238738Would that actually hold up in court? Is it possible to prove some sort of breach of an implied contract? Sounds shaky.
>>66238917Secrets of the trade amirite
>>66238738The lawsuit itself wouldn’t do shit to them. The real problem would be the discontent that drives that hypothetical lawsuit.
>>66238908Time travel abortions is a yellow belly sport.
>>66238939>not playing fetches to thin your deck
>>66238991it would bankrupt hasbro
>>66238958>Would that actually hold up in court?probably 50/50
>>66238917They don't, but they have previously made a promise to their customers to not reprint a list of cards (the reserve list) and people will sue them for breaking that contract and they will loose money from defending against this lawsuit and a lot more if they loose.And for what?To reprint cards they have already made?People will go crazy over new cards they can make without this risk, so there is no point doing it. If they do it once, the price of old cards will plummet and everyone will be upset. If they do it all the time, it wouldn't actually be a driving factor to sell a specific set would it?If you want cheap RL cards, buy Chinese fakes, those are much more likely to stay the same cost regardless of what the market is.But you won't do that because you don't want to be marked as cheap.
>>66239103>made a promise to their customers to not reprint a list of cards (the reserve list) and people will sue them for breaking that contract I dunno, that doesn't sound like a binding contract.
>>66239159The precise definition of promissory estoppel varies from state to state, but its elements are basically the same. In order to establish promissory estoppel, you need to prove several things:The existence of a promise;The promise is one that the promisor should reasonably expect to induce the promisee to rely on it to their detriment;The promise actually did cause the promisee to justifiably change their position in reliance on it; andInjustice can be avoided only by enforcement of the promise.
>at lgs for modern night>first match is against the tronmutt attentionwhore>she gets absolutely destroyed 2-0 and drops after that Felt good to put that smug cunt in her place bros. Turns out she's shit at limited and constructed.
>>66239525Tron is an easy matchup to win, why does that make her a bad player?
>>66239888She's usually so smug about going undefeated. It was past time to knock her down a peg.
>>66237566I hate this artwork so much.
>>66238908>*teleports behind you*>*erases your time*Nothing personnel bambino
>>66239525They must be right when they say winning fnm is better than sex
>>66240073Okay, I don't follow her blog. Tron is a good deck, but it have bad matchups and it is easily stopped. As with most modern decks, it is very easy to pilot, but it doesn't matter how complex a deck is.
>>66239217>>66239103>>66239159>be kid>mommy promises to bring me to ice cream>she tired and doesn't stop>sue her for promissory estoppel>????>profitPromissory Estoppel is a joke, only in a jew infested cuckland it can ever be considered to be a legit thing.
>>66240275Where else is Ugin played?
>>66240453fails 2 and 4. A mother could not promise to always supply a child an endless amount of icecream and there is no injustice if a kid doesn't bankrupt his mother for not getting more icecream.It is not a reasonable contract to enforce. Wizards made a promise NOT to do a thing, so it doesn't cost them anything to honor this agreement. It has been confirmed and talked about several times, so it is actually a reasonable promise, not just a one time utterance that could be misinterpreted. And more important to what I think, Wizards think it is a bad idea to go back on this promise.They can make any card they'd like, there is no reason for them to do it just to make cardboard cheaper for new players.
>>66240640>>Wizards made a promise NOT to do a thing, so it doesn't cost them anything to honor this agreement.But that is factually wrong, they're a business that prints game cards and they promised to not print cards so it actually financially damages them to not be able to print a viable product.Also the mother was not coerced to make the promise and she only promised to provide supply for ice cream once, not endlessly.
>>66240443200 iq post i have no idea why so many people treat tron like the format boogieman when it doesnt do anything the first 2 turns and doesnt always have tron on turn 3 every gamei actually find the deck rather slow and easy to go under also this card fucks me over so hard it isnt funny>>66239525have sex u smelly incel i dropped bc my husband got hurt at work not bc i dropped a game
Good guy decks>Rock>Jund>DnT>Spirits>Amulet TitanNeutral decks>Burn>Elves>Humans>UW control>Death's Shadow>Hardened ScalesBad guy decks>Tron>Dredge >Phoenix>Neobrand>Ad Nauseam>Storm>Prison
>>66240753>>66239525This has to be fake.
>>66240761I mostly agree but spirits isn't a good guy. >guys have hexproof and uncounterable, and just Queller any boardwipes that get around hexproofIt's not actually interactive, despite posing as a creature deck.
>>66240884i used to play spirits its really weak to hand disruption and very top deck dependent since it has no card filtering or selection
>>66240775I hope its real
>>66240753I don't know either. I think it is a good example of a fair deck. It ramps out big threats, stop their ramp and you stop stop the deck or make it very easy to beat them.There are slow decks which obviously can't beat them, a good example is lantern, actually, their worst card is chromatic sphere, but still. I play a deck that needs insanely bad draws to not beat tron and 2-0 is much more likely than 2-1 if they play the standard green version.
>>66240761>wanting to be the good guy
Are there any fun budget Grixis decks?
>>66241183>budget>3 colorDon't do that to yourself.
>>66240761>tfw has goyRise up lads.
>endstep gifts ungiven
>>66241258That's fair, how about just Dimir then? I've got two shocks and a check so I've got a partial mana base if that matters.
>>66241183The best budget decks are the ones you brew yourself.Doing one color can make the mana base reasonable, 2 colors is bad and 3 colors is just terrible. Also, certain cards are modern stables and thus more expensive than others.In modern, you can brew almost anything from a list of stables and it would probably work.Going outside these, you have to factor in a ton of things, especially how small your friend group is and what they are playing.If your friends are like mine, then they bring a new tier 1 deck every week, so adjusting for their decks is pointless.Here is a good base if you are in doubt how to brew your own stuff:Black means you can include a discard package, do that unless you really are struggling for room.Red means you can include a burn/removal package.Blue means you can include a counter package.Which counterspells depends on your deck.Now look at the list again, which color can you afford to remove?
>>66241408what about white?
>>66237006>he's opposed to printing more interactionWhat a faggot.
>>66241431White have good sideboard enchantments and removal.It is not a color most decks splashes for a specific set of cards.Look at the current modern decks and see what they are doing.How many creatures, how many removal spells, what kind of removal spells etc.Like how did a deck like grixis death shadow ever become popular?Why is it good?Can you replicate this in a budget deck? Probably not death shadow, but you could easily throw down a big threat and protect it with discard and counterspells.How is this deck different to humans?Could you make a budget version of humans?What modern deck would you build if money was not a problem and what is the most expensive card in that list?Is it vital? Is it the only expensive component?Time to do your own research.The only good budget decks these days is ad naus and storm.
>>66241408That'd probably be red then, I don't have much if any good burn cards, and while I don't have many great counterspells and discard spells. I think they're better than the burn spells I have. Thanks.
how do you shuffle your hand when you cast faithless looting or draw a card? i just fan out my cards and merge one half into the other a couple times. it's crazy watching people do that spastic flicking really fast though
>>66241527is there anything to white weenies anymore?
>hello i'd like 4 bitterblossom please>that'll be $180 plus tax
>>66241657>chase rare from 10-year-old set>mythic in premium setswhat did you expect?
>>66241657There is budget soul sisters, humans and dnt you can try. They are very easy to shut down though. Stake sisters is actually rather expensive and doesn't really have many stables, so that might not be a direction I would go.
>>66241657>not just getting chinaman fakes for 2.5$ a cardlmaoing @ ur life paypig
How big is your MH budget, say the set is great, how much will you spend?
>>66241907Dumb question, I'll just get what I need.
>>66241907I got some store credit, so I'll get 2 boxes just by adding a difference of 120€.
>>66241906What does that slutty angel restore other than boners?
>>66241999>just by adding a difference of 120€.More like JUST.
>>66241907At least one sealed and the relevant singles. I don't see myself drafting it a ton.
>>66241964I understand that sentiment, but if MH is truly a good set I'll buy a handfull of packs for the hell of it. I like nice cards.
>>66242032Why would you ever buy a box? Don't tell me you're gonna open it.
>>66242101A few packs don't really require a "budget". I open a few packs once in a while just to scratch the itch but that's about it. If I buy sealed it's only as a long term investment.
>>66242137If they had prerelease packs I'd buy a few of those instead. Sadly modern is not allowed to be fun, which means I'll ultimately buy less stuff. Handfull of boosters, if I get really lucky I'll buy a few more. Not counting singles ofc.
>>66242186https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-modern-horizons-2019-02-28>But why wait that long? Modern Horizons is going to have Prerelease events at local game stores June 8–9!
>>66242273>events>not literally have a special buyable product at said eventsI want to crack something special not get a card slipped up my ass. Which is ironic since this set is "apparently" supposed to be drafted.
>>66242346every set is supposed to be drafted. that's why millions of shitty, unplayable cards exist. god i hate limited so much
>>66242273Forgot to say, I dunno why people treat this product like a specialty product, this is by all means a Standard set but in name. It's going to be printed into oblivion. I'm sure other sets like this will follow, parallel to the Standard ones, possibly more spread out, I figure one each summer and one exclusive reprint set each holiday season.>>66242346The fuck are you talking about? The set will have your regular prerelease package.
>>66242373What I meant is, they have prerealease packs in standard. Why not in modern if everything is supposed to be drafted.This is the problem, buying a whole box seems like a dumb waste to me. I won't sell the cards so I'm not looking for profit, but hey sitting on a few nice cards has that treasure effect. Fat packs and prerelease packs are the kind of size I still find ok to buy. Single packs just make me lose interest for lack of choice.
>>66242423I looked around and only saw the prerelease card given away at prerelease. No talk about packs. Show me I'm mistaken, I wish to be wrong.
>Expansion code>MH1>1They're not even trying to hide it LMAO. We gonna get juiced hard with this shit.>>66242525Again, the fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to say, in a retarded way, that there's no package and they will just hand you the 6 packs from a regular box + your promo card? Where the fuck have you found that info? It's not a viable option, they wouldn't let stores manage the promos because the best ones would never reach the hands of the players. Wizards is not that retarded.
>>66234040Then play Legacy and run both
>>66242627I'm talking about this.They specifically mentioned you'll get to buy them on wots prerelease.
Reminder that BBD was $3/packWhy is MH $5/pack?
>>66242739>"modern cards r better goy"
>>66242709That's the pack you use to do the prerelease, retard. Where did you get the info the prerelease kit will be different for Horizons?>>66242739>Why is MH $5/pack?>Modern Horizons will be printed for as long as demand holds. It will release on Magic Online on June 13, with a booster price of $6.99 (regular booster packs cost $3.99)Pay up goy.
>>66242739BBD was a mistake goy, it was too cheap : we know this because the lgs's used to sell boxes for more than what we expected.
Living end bros where we at?
>>66242739MH for 5$ a pack?What do you mean by MH for 7$ a pack?I don't know where you read MH packs were about to be sold for 9$ but the real price will be around 11$ actually.And believe at 13$ a pack, it's really a bargain!
>>66242768>>66242867>>66242883>>66242944all this antisemitism is truly vile. /mmg/ really has turned into a shithole
>>66242987Imagine being this much of a good goy
>>66242987>66242768>66242867>66242883>66242944>WOTC SHOULD GIVE ME FREE STUFFS
>>66242867I read the magic prerelease info. It never stated you could just walk in there and buy 12, like with wots prerelease. But on prerelease you'll get a prerelease card if you attend.
>>66242987there is nothing wrong with antisemitism
>>66243107You know that communism is a jewish noahide doctrine and Marx was a jew, right?
>>66243115>I read the magic prerelease infoWHERE YOU STUPID FUCK?Jesus christ conversing with you is driving me nuts, you're doing this on purpose are you? What's your first language, fucking Chinese or something?Why the fuck would they feel the need to state that you can buy 12 prereleaes kits? Did they state you could on the "magic prerelease info", whatever that shit means, for War of the Spark?
>>66243107Yes, WOTC should give clients free stuff. Also 4 bucks doesn't look free to me.
>>66242987what's more mindblowing is that people would expect anywhere on 4chan to not be casually antisemitic
>>66237566White guys cant do eyebrow shifts? Also likely a white guy could do better facial expressions because the shadows on lighter skin have greater contrast.
>>66243161this pretty much. it's telling how these alt right shitheads push for capitalism and shit on companies when people who perceive to be nonwhite start winning at their own game.capitalism is indiscriminate. if you children can't afford to play as wizards, you should move on to a different hobby.
What are some good mono red "troll" cards for multiplayer kitchen table with a soft modern limit (i.e. older cards are considered "bullshit" by my nu male friends). Picked up Dictate of the Twin Gods, Breaking Point, a few others. Thoughts? I want stuff that doesn't necessarily hurt the other players so there can be some manipulating and messing with their heads.
>>66243347confusion in the ranks and grip of chaos are time-honored "fuck every single person at this table" multiplayer cards which are also not actually as fun as they look because it turns out it takes ages to resolve anythingEDH general would probably know more
https://www.justgamesrochester.com/modern-horizons-pre-release-and-preorder/>10 bucks a popPay the fuck up goyim!
>>66243347Burning inquiryRedirectGuttural Response
>>66243265>Rather than issue an allocation of Prerelease Packs, prize boosters, and Early Sale Promotion product, each with a designated use, we'll try a simpler format: a single allocation of boosters to apportion as you choose between events, prizes, and advance sales.Okay so there won't be a package? So what? I mean, sure, for a more expensive product it seems pretty fucking jewish but who cares.I'm more preoccupied about the promos not being identifiable by the stores. Hope they use a better packaging than Box Toppers.
>>66241436What do you expect of someone who enjoys solitaire?
>>66243520>60 bucks prerelease>300 bucks boxWhat the actual fuck? Not even Ultimate Masters was that expensive, I paid 250 for a box at release and that product is actually good.
>>66243636The whole point I was making is that I like pre-packs. I'm bummed out cause I won't be able to buy a few.
>>66243733In any case you need to work on your communication, son, how fucking hard is it to say "it's on the wpn page for the event" when someone asks?
>>66243301You are pants on head retarded nigger, (((positive discrimination))) is the antithesis of capitalism. And they put this agenda on place because they aren't enough shitskins winning for their taste to begin with.
>>66243347Madcap experiment into Platinum is great if they win by damage.Blood moon is great if they run many colors (especially if red isn't one)Chandra and hazoret is good in multiplayer if you generally just want to hide behind a bridge.What do you want to play though.Can you Karn + lattice? That is pretty good and it only takes one sideboard slot and you can have other artifacts that is good in multiplayer.
>>66243773>waaah we rigged the game for whites but jews are beating us at our own game they must be cheating!
>>66243772I didn't specifically remember where I read that info. More importantly how did you not know this? Literally put "Modern horizons prerelease" in google and voila.
>>66237618>>66238048>whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, create a token that's a copy of target creature that player controls, except it's black
>>66243833Lmao, token black guys for days
I got a playset of the new karns for cheap, and a mycosinty lattice too. Now I have some tronlands laying around. Is there a good tron-prison deck which doesn't use Those 100000$ a piece planeswalkers like Karn and Ugin?
>>66243956U tron plays with a one of Ugin and one of Snappy. Ugin is more important. Although, the deck its not unplayable without them. Chalices somewhere on the 75 are also staples, again not unplayable without them, just better
>>66244037ugin is only $30 you poorfaggot
>>66234240I'm sorry were you in a coma when Eldrazi Winter happened?
>>66244087It is 60€ in Europe.
>>66244114when did ugin become a $75 card wtf
>>66244037Well, I have 4x chalice and 4x Bridge. Just wanted to build a colorless prison style deck relying on tronlands.Btw, how good is blue tron compared to the classic Mono green?
>>66244124As discussed earlier, there are fewer ugins in rotation than Jace the mind sculptor and it sees about as much play.Tron/post is a popular deck.
>>66244087>ugin is only $30 you poorfaggotKek
>>66244087Congrats on being retarded
>>66244236You can easily do that.The green package is good because green offer better card draw and thus more consistently turn 3 tron.Blue is slower, but doesn't get hurt by a bloodmoon as much.Just add a Karn package to challice and bridge and you can play anything you want.
WOTC GIVE ME MODERN TORTURED EXISTENCE OR GO TO HELL
>>66244392>Green offers better card draweveryday we stray further from GodSo I'll just try the Karn great creator/bridge/chalice package and choose between some card draw spells and I'm set
>>66244236It loses to fast aggro, burn, G tron and merfolk. Srsly fuck green tron. An early chalice on 1 may help, but its still difficult.It has a decent chance at winning vs control and combo in general I feel. I love the mindslaver lock combo. Its humiliating to be mindslaved. The interaction the deck provides and the salt... ohh, that akone sells the deck for me, its feels so good
i bet enlightened tutor would fix modern
>>66243470>>66243544>>66243525>>66243799Thanks anons, Confusion in the Ranks is DEFINITELY going on my list. As are most of the others. I want to play cards that benefit the other players so they don't want to knock me out of the game, but also so that I have something to play so I'm not just sitting on instants waiting for someone to attack me.
>>66244524>Mox opalhell no, i sold mine like 2 months ago. not oing to buy them again
>>66244812It's ok anon, they are not really 100% necessary, they mostly are here to give more ways of landing chalice@1/2 turn1, and have the little upside of being food for throne. Just put bridge x3md instead and remove maybe one throne or both for something else. Hell you can even play monkey instead.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2115225107/terese-nielsens-tokens-of-spiritI want hot soldierwomen/angel tokens with delicious midriffs.
>>66234011Every BG/x midrange deck will look to slam him down. Mind you without Deathrite Shaman he's much harder to slam out turn 2 but with Birds/Noble Hierarch it's still possible.
>>66244906>nigger angel>nigger elementaluh based dyke in a trump hat
>>66244970>she supports trump so she must be racisti can't tell if this is based or redpilled
So i've been testing Finale of Devastation in Elves and for real it's a legitimately decent GSZ impersonator. You're not getting Dryad Arbor for X = 0 on turn 1 but turn 2 you can get you another mana elf or the Arbor and later on you can bring back any bolted Archdruid's, not to mention you can now tutor up a Gaddock Teeg or another hatebear much earlier. Right now it's undecided on whether you want to play CoCo+Finale, Chord+Finale, Lead+Finale and of course you can still play regular CoCo+Chord or CoCo+Lead in Elves but Finale remains a very good sidegrade option right now. I suspect the Kiki Chord lists will have better consistency now too.
>>66245018literally scroll down on the kickstarter page
>>66244236U Tron goes better against control and combo. You're much slower but you have genuine inevitability with the Mindslaver Lock.
>>66244970black is the future of the white race, time to accept it goy. There is no alternatives.
>>66245058>straight hair>a niggerAmazonian at best
>>66243694Amulet is too cool and big brained to be a bad guy deck
>>66245047I play GW Elves with Devoted/Vizier, and Finale is fucking amazing in this build.
>>66245140black anon here. black girls can have straight hair pic related
>>66245410No, they don't. They straighten them. The hair in the pic are obviously straightened
>>66245410Nigger.Post noose around neck with timestamp.
what a welcoming thread this is
>>66245667You have to go back
>>66245410get out nigger. We only have one "black" here and it's based qt waifu tronmutt. We don't need you unless you have boobs too.
>>66245667>when the tumblrina get lost once again on the internets
>>66245140Pretty sure this is the one he was talking about.>>66245410That girl is probably 70+% white. In fact, you can accurately tell how white a ""black"" person is by their skin color. If they aren't African dark, like black black, they have a ton of white genes.
>>66245687>based qt waifu tronmuttCringe and cyanidepilled.
>>66245687hang your self
>enjoy playing vintage on xmage>tfw you'll never EVER play paper vintage
This place is worse than /v/. Shame that /pol/ infested /tg/ now.
>nigger here nigger thereWhy is everyone obsessed with niggers? No one cares. Let's shitpost about how we have countless cards over 50 bucks in this retarded format instead.
>>66245140not this one>>66245713this one
>>66245811Have you considered, I dunno, fucking off? It's pretty easy to close your browser, nigger.
>>66245811Good, this will drive the plebbitors away. This is not a safe space faggot.We /hurtbox/ nao
>>66245811polshit isn't even close to as bad as the endless magical realm and tough badass fighting women threads that endlessly shit up the catalogif I could have a board only for warhams and mtg I would
>>66245811someone said nigger on 4chan. how horrible.
>>66245848I'm sorry, but this is 4channel territory now, boomer.
>>66245842The fuck is magical realm, anyways? I see it on this board, but never investigated.
>>66245815>Let's shitpost about how we have countless cards over 50 bucks in this retarded format insteadActually the format have been a lot cheaper since a year. Countless cards' prices tanked thanks to reprints and most non reprinted staples remained stable.
>>66245870Go to hell, gookmoot.
>>66245876in a nutshell basically /d/ threads without images
>>66245890Probably better that I never peeked inside. Thanks, my dude.
>>66245870>mfw hiromoot crying in lateral safety position because not a single advertiser accepted to come after the split because every board remain racists afkek
>>66245879>Actually the format have been a lot cheaper since a year. Countless cards' prices tanked thanks to reprints and most non reprinted staples remained stable.Bullshit. Every single significant card that was reprinted is already almost back to its previous pricepoint. Liliana, Jace, Chalice, Bridge etc. Other expensive cards that were reprinted are still obscenely expensive. Decks that have seen expensive cards reprinted have had other cards rise up in price.
>>66245842>polshit isn't even close to as bad as the endless magical realm and tough badass fighting women threads that endlessly shit up the catalogIt's actually worse because political shitflinging can derail any thread while magical realm threads are really obvious and easy to avoid.
>>66246182Why should it derail a thread, though? Have we forgotten where we are so easily?If you faggots can't handle some friendly hate, wtf are you even doing here? And meanwhile I just killed you on t3 with Ezuri.
>>66246182how exactly do you derail a general whose purpose is simply to be an eternal conversation? if it is persistent and continuous I could see it being a real disruption but simply capping a thread that has no particular conversation going at the moment is hardly as much of a problem as the endless tide of porn threads that actually delete and push away whole other topics
>>66246288They're off hanging out with friends instead of here on this shithole.I'm kidding. We all know you fishfuckers have no friends.
do people who unironically play merfolk really exist?
>>66246440based ecelebs like nikachu
>>66246440They do. Guy at my LGS actually tried Hardened Fish through the use of Metallic Mimic. It didn't work, but I thought it was a cool idea.
>>66246421I don't play merfolk. I just like calling them out.
>>66246477Backpedal harder, faggot.
>>66236192why the fuck do you need THREE mycosynth lattice
>>66246914it's not tron you dumdum, moon is a big nothingburger.
I'm building a Rakdos deck. Nothing too competitive just good enough to play casually. Blackcleave Cliffs and fetches are expensive as hell. Can I use Blood Crypts and Dragonskull Summits and still expect the deck to function relatively well? Are there better budget options than Dragonskull Summit?
>>66244970b-b-b-but the black angel is weaker than the white angel so you nazi fucks can feel fine about it
>>66245885DIFFERENT DOMAIN, DIFFERENT ALEXA RANK
sup my boyosIs it possible to totally flatten a water damaged card who is dry since a while?Few years ago a canalisation broke just above where one of my cards box was. Sadly it was were i was stockpilling my old cards, and i had duals among them. I originally envelopped them into toilet paper with a fan blowing juste above for two days, then put them in a perfect sleeve then right in the middle of a fat encyclopedia for few more days. They were waved as all fuck still.Then since then they are double sleeved and in toploaders. Recently i checked them and they aren't super wavey anymore but still enough to not be tourney legal i think.What could i do to make them really flat? I was thinking using an iron, or maybe put them between 2 plexi plates and slowly roll over it with my car, but i don't know if it will be really effective.Any ideas?
>>66248481>ideasstop being poor and stupid and buy new ones and store them properly
>>66248494It's not cheap shocklands you drooling retard, i speak about Usea, bayous, tundra and several badlands, one of which is black bordered. It's not the kind of shit you can buy back like it's nothing.
>>66245811same thing happened to /fa. i don't go on many boards but i assume every board has been overrun by pol at this point >>66245836no u>>66245837you are worse than the redditor bogeyman>>66243347stranglehold, depending on your meta. warp world, worldfire, obliterate, etc are what i would consider "troll". possibility storm is another one that falls into the same Stack Nightmare category as confusion in the ranks>>66240761close.spirits goes in neutral, humans goes in bad guy, prison goes in good guy.
>>66248549>humans goes in bad guy, prison goes in good guyAbsolutely retarded, it's the exact opposite.
>>66248533>It's not the kind of shit you can buy back like it's nothing.it is if you have a job, I doubt anyone would think of shocks when you say "duals"
>>66248572ok rothschild, nice story
>>66248594even assuming you mean beta badlands, where do you work where a 1000 dollar discretionary purchase is somehow beyond the pale but you can afford to blow tons of money on cardboard crack
Why the fuck does UW control have so many NIGGERS in it?
>>66248622its the designated nigger color combo because it makes the least sense thematically
>>66248613Not everyone is a billionaire anon, i own these duals since a long time, i purchased them for something like 40 bux a piece back then. And i don't meant a beta dual for the badland its an italian fbb if i remember well. I can't pay myself new duals, i don't have the means, and even if i did i wouldnt blow maybe up to several grands for a handful of cards. If i ask the question it's because i'm poor and i need the money to pay my bills. So the best looking they are, the more i could ask for them.
>>66248698consider a remedial english language class it would be a better investment of your time and money
>>66248622Oh my God that art is disgusting. Fucking jesus christ
>>66248622Then i don't advise you to look at the actual weenie white splash U deck in standard. The deck is entirely made of coal-tier niggers and mutt strong wymyn.
>>66248743Why is it called white weenies if they're all niggers? What's the deal with that?!
>>66248755calling it nigger babies would be doing the delicious licorice snack a disservice
>>66248715I don't want to spend more money, i need to earn some. And i don't see what's wrong with my english, especially for someone who learnt it alone. But if you want we can speak in my mother tongue, i'm sure as a proud amerimutt you master plenty of others languages :)
>>66248755That's a good question anon, i think other anon here pretty much nailed it >>66248630Also they want the nogs to feel at home in europe so they give them an european lore (medieval plated armors, various european medieval weapons, etc..). Just like the BBC put a shit ton of niggers in their historical documentaries so the kids thinks "oh well, we always were a multikultu country i guess".
>>66248549>i assume every board has been overrun by pol at this pointHow are you not getting it? People who are on /pol/ are regular 4chan users. They go to other boards too. You were always amongst /pol/.
>>66248755Usual propaganda, just like the BMWF ads you see everywhere, it's all about trying to convince the whites, especially young women (who can/will carry black children) and the next voting generation, to accept the endless waves of niggers invading and replacing their ageing population. In countries like Germany or Italy, the natives women have in average 1.3 kids. Way below the replacement ratio. The only exception being France, and it's only because their country is filled with packs of niggers. Meanwhile in Congo or Togo the average is 7.9 kids per woman. The subafrican population average age is 15 years old. In europe it's 43 years old. Europe population is dying, and instead of putting in place natalist policies, the traitorous elites decide to import their next wageslaves, dumber and accepting pretty much anything, perfectly fit to serve their masters in giant factories with brainless tasks without going on strike.By 2050 half the population growth will be added by africa alone. In 1900 Africa had 100 millions inhab. Today it's 1.2 billion, 12x growth in a century thanks to the white man industries, vaccines, food and infrastructure. In 30 years it's projected to be 2.3 billions.While in europe the numbers will be dwilling and the average population will be 50+ years old.The situation will soon be totally untenable in Africa, the continent can't sustain such population growth with the actual infrastructures. You have to remember 95% of the sub saharan infrastructure (hospitals, farms, roads, trains, power grid..) was built by the white men during colonisation. And since the decolonisation, nothing replaced it or even just the upkeep wasn't done. Everything in black africa is in ruins beside few enclaves where the local warlords or corrupted politicians can trade natural resources for white infrastructure.And the problem isn't just technologic, most of black ruled countries can't get their shit together because the politicians are so corrupted.
>>66249098you might be autistic
>>66249098suitTheir leaders are in exil, killed and replaced by the next ones every 3 months, you have constant civil wars and regime changes. You can't have any longterm vision for a country if you go from communism to ultraliberalism and vice versa 5 times a year.We are heading toward a human drame on a scale never seen before. Half the locals will kill each others in endless civil wars, the other half will try their chances elsewhere, leaving misery for the golden goose they think europe is. A lot of them will end up captured and enslaved by smugglers and radical muslims militias in Mali, Niger or Tchad. And for the fews (still several millions yearly mind you) who will be able to reach europe, there is no future. A recent study in germany showed 95% of the migrants who came during the syrian war (fun thing is it was mostly blacks, while the black population is nearly 0% in Syria..) are, few years after the conflict, still on welfare and didn't made any procedure to find a job.To make it even worst, most european countries refuse to perform the clinical test to determine the age, and visa are automatically granted to minors. So we end up in clownish situations where you have 50 years old nogs saying they are 14 and they automatically become citizens. Every one in the administration knows it, but no one do anything. It's called high treason.I've nothing against blacks, and it's sad to see the calamities they are living. But by offering them our technologies and our charity, we transformed them into a lethal parasitic tumor. Sure, it please the globohomo elite, but the commoners like you and me will see some shit in the incoming decades, and not the funny kind. It will be a bloodbath, not only if the whites try to claim back their continent after ousting their traitorous (((elite))) who allowed this situation, but mainly within Africa,
>>66249098>>66249306nobody will ever read this shit
>>66249306(suit)One could claim China is in the process of exporting their whole industrial complexes to africa, just like the US and europe did 20 years back with China.But eventually they will fail, just like europe failed when they attempted it. Niggers' productivity is close to 0, they have no work ethic and only the clan/family matter to them. And the chineses can't simply import their industries, they have to import all the infrastructures necessary for it's functioning. A factory is useless without roads, water and power grid. Just like we did back then, they have to build the entire continent logistical structure. And unlike some colonial powers like the belgians, the french, the portugueses or the italians who were partially colonizing for humanitarian (educating the good savage) and 'saving of the soul' (via mass evangelisation) reasons, the chink only have the profits in mind. You have excellent scholar books nowaday explaining the "looting of africa by the evil white man" is a total myth (not for the anglos tho). Most colonizing countries spent around 5 to 8 times more than the revenus they earned in africa via the natural resources exploitation. You can imagine how much does it cost to equip a country like the Uganda or the RDC with rail roads you have to manufacture at home, ship, earthwork to flaten the ground, assemble it then install the power grid etc...Some chinese companies alrdy understood this and started to move away from africa their factories.I could go on for hours but all this to say we must stop this plague and it's terrible to say but our best option to save as humanly as possible the human race from this threat is to find an ethnovirus targeting black populations. I know for a fact Israel is alrdy working on it.
>>66249342good point, i finished anyway. I don't even know why i started to rant about it, most likely no one will give a flying fuck about my wall of text lol.
>>66248997/pol was intended to be a containment boardyou were supposed to keep your pol trash confined to your designated receptacle
>>66249098>>66249306>>66249469this is all true but this isn't the place for it fampai
>>66245890What's /d/? I can't see it on the bar at the top of the page.
>>66250358type it into the url instead of /tg/, newfriend. soon you'll be one of us.
>>66249098>>66249306>>66249469Unironically excellent posts, anon. Thank you for making them.
>>66249098>>66249306>>66249469Lol i love this