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I was always a fool for my Johnny edition

>Community Survey
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>Previous Thread:
>>65730163
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First for Death Guard
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>>65734022
NTH forma black templars assaulting Prospero
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F
duncan.
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>>65734040
>4040
blessed
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first time painting went..ok. Still some bits to do, but I think it's went well so far
>all those streaks on the front
I didn't even see those till I took the picture. fuck.
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>>65734112
thin your paints
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first for beaky aka best helmet
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>>65734048
Wouldn’t this be fenris?
> or the planet of sorcerers
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got a game against my buddy's admech soup on good friday. I'm expecting at least a castellan, possibly a hellhammer or baneblade, as well as cawl gunline. How's this list look?
2996 pts

Battalion - GSC
cult: Bladed Cog
broodcoven -1 CP
grandsire's gifts x1 -1 CP

Magus(Alien Majesty)x1 Familiar
Patriarch(WL, biomorph adaptation, amulet of the voidwyrm), x1 Familiar

acolytes x20 - rock saws x5, demo charge x3, lash whip+bonesword
brood brothers x20 - 2 grenades, lascannon
neophytes x10

Brood brothers HWS(bolters)
brood brothers HWS(lascannons)
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Vanguard - GSC
cult: Bladed Cog

Primus - Single-minded Obsession

clamavus
kelermorph
locus
sanctus - the gift from beyond
nexos
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guard battalion
regiment - brood brothers
company commander
company commander
company commander

Infantry squad - plasma gun
Infantry squad - plasma gun
Infantry squad - plasma gun
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Supreme command: guard
tank commander - battle tank, lascannon, bolters
tank commander - battle tank, lascannon, bolters
tank commander - battle tank, lascannon, bolters
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Battalion: Tyranids
Hive Fleet: Kraken
The Swarmlord
Old One-eye

genestealers x19 - acid maw x3
hormagaunts x12
rippers x3

Carnifex x3 - 2x monstrous scything talons, adrenal glands, bone mace, spore cysts, toxin sacs, tusks
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Anything else I should add?
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>>65734136
write "lack of nude big titty Eldar gals"
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>>65734124
ty anon. I tried but clearly I didn't thin enough.
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>>65734136
Demand that they remake Vect but genderswapped, complete with femboy slaves. It’s what I’m asking for.
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>>65734136
I told them their gaming boards are complete shit
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>>65734136
I said the stinginess of sprue equipment, like the new Chaos termy kit only having two or less of any melee weapon
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Is a good TS list possible without tzaangors?
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Posting again for the new thread.

Post what you put for "If there is one thing we could do to make the hobby better?"

for bonus points post what you put for

"Is there anything else you want us to know?"
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>>65734238
when the fuck have sprues had all the options available to a unit?

Do old dev boxes have 3 lascannons? I know my guard infantry boxes don't even have a single plasma or melta gun. my 5e drukhari only have 1 blaster and shredder despite trueborn at the time having access to min 4. My genestealer acolytes only get 1 rock saw and demo charge per box of 5, meaning to get my squad of 20 fully loaded, I need to buy 40, to kit out a squad of 20...
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>>65734252
Probably. They still have good dakka and psychic dakka. And Magnus.
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>>65734264
>they haven't had all options in the past so shouldn't in the future
> >:(
c'mon son
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>>65734264
Just because you're used to it is no reason to be happy about it now
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>>65734261
>"If there is one thing we could do to make the hobby better?"

GW not beeing a stock company...and/or a minimal-profit/none-profit organisation
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>>65734261
I said they should put out the CA changes as free eratta and actually update their free rulebook with all the changes they make because the extra-shit-needed-on-hand-to-have-all-the-rules bloat is getting silly

And I said I'd start a Craftworld army as soon as all their remaining resin shit gets plasticised
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>>65734277
>>65734280
you're not wrong, but this seems like a brand new thing people are bitching about since havocs only have a single reaper chaincannon.

like...yeah, it's shit, but it's hardly a new issue, yet this is like the fourth time I've heard someone whine, when I've never heard people complain about it this much previously.
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>>65734261
i jsut told them to revamp necrons or at least do some work wioth xenos races besides orks
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>>65734301
No, they need to release a new Space Marine box I don't have enough models that look exactly the same.
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>>65734261
>more xenos
>less focus on marines

>phase out finecast/pewter, roll out more plastic kits
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>>65734311
please don't joke about that
we xenos bois havent felt love for a long time
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>>65734134
Aren't you only allowed 4 detatchments at 3k? Or are you not using the "suggestion"
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>>65734323
*laughing genestealers*
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>>65734261
For the one thing they could do I put Sales. And then wrote up a one paragraph essay on how repackaging units and bumping their price up to 70 is insane as the initial costs have already been covered, more of an issue for AoS then 40K though. And that doing a once a year sale, where people could save up money for to spluge would be huge. I also mentioned that for armies that aren't selling well sell their SC box at a discount or even just include some art cards like they do with new releases to drive interest in the faction.
For the anything else... I asked for plastic Chaos Dwarves after they were done doing plastic sisters.
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>>65734252
For casual play? Sure. Not competitive, though. Deepstriking massive blobs of birdgoats backed up by psychic dakka and archer goats flying everywhere is the Sons' entire army right now.
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>>65734326
pretty sure it's only 4 detachments at 2500.

That's also only for tournament play.
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>>65734136
Fuck, anyone doing survey, tell them to add more leg options.
I can kitbash whole squads with my stuff, except I have no legs. It's really annoying me, so much, I got a nosebleed in indignant rage.
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>>65734261
I told them to make sure their printed materials get better proofreading before they go to the press. I don't need to be buying a 40$ book that's invalidated by the next day because they didn't bother to check that everything was right before it shipped. At the amount these printed materials cost it is laughable that a company as large as GW has the editing power of a 5th grader working on their book report.
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>>65734330
i mean, lets add a new race and not fix some pre existing ones
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>>65734261
I don't remember the exact wording, but between both questions I told them to:
>tighten the rules so there is less autistic nerd arguments
>less "do what you want, it's just a game xD" sort of stuff with rules
>to put all wargear options in boxes or at least sell compatible wargear packs
>make an official base size chart to finally get rid of waacfags that put smash captains and ork boyz on 25mm bases
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>>65734261
>One thing to make the hobby better
Told them that having so many rulebooks and codexes and paint sets discourages new players, so they might make them cheaper.
Told them to stop their slip into sjw shit, because we want the opposite.
And asked for shirtless custodes, because who wouldn't buy them.
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>>65734294
Back in the days when WHFB was still around they had updates fro the rules to cut out and glue them into the rule book/ army book
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>>65734354
Fuck that.

More Marines.
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>>65734357
>slip into SJW shit
it's one black library writer. Have you not been paying attention to the battle sister bulletin?
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I can't decide bros, help me out:
>30 plaguebearers without upgrades
or
>28 plaguebearers with an Icon
They are just for screening and sitting on objectives.
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>>65734371
30
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>>65734371
Nurglings
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is there anything in the fluff that explicitly says there can't be female Custodians? If not, should there be female custodians?
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>>65734379
Fuck you
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>>65734379
yes
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>>65734379
they're not created through the same process as space marines, so i don't believe they have the gender restriction. I think you should have them because variety is always good when you have to build a lot of something.
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>>65734261
New Lady Malys model, Necron buffs, and I also demanded that they suck my dick for dealing with their shitty survey full of redundant questions.
I doubt I'm getting those Sisters.
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>>65734371
Doesn't the icon bring plaguebearers back? At max unit size a banner would more than make up for 2 lost plaguebearers.
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>>65734379
Well Custodes were designated as the Emp's Mates not his Fuck buddies so
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>>65734406
por que no los dos?
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>>65734136
I instinctively said "the female face sculpts are shit" and regretted it immediately. Thankfully I'm not alone.
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>>65734374
I have a battalion with 2 heralds(poxbringers), 2 nurgling squads and a plaguebearer squad for screening. I don't really expect the plagues to live very long, but the icon may keep them up longer.

>>65734399
That's what I'm thinking too. Guess I'll just model one with an icon and try it out.
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>>65734368
No, I sorta meant their gentler comic stuff, with their cringeworthy characters.
Really, I phrased it a bit differently, more along the lines that most hobbyists would prefer the setting to be a bit more offensive in reality. It was a lengthy thing, not just "Cease your social justice fuckery tttthot!" because that would be dumb.
I actually liked one of said writers books, purely because it could be read as a comedy antic, and it makes sense for a magos who's mostly machine to cast off many vestiges of weak flesh as possible, considering they speak in binary.
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>>65734261
Aosesque fun rules
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Faq when?
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>>65734379
Girls are icky.
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>>65734379
See >>65734406, having a harem of warrior women would give off weird vibes, and additionally it's hinted that the Custodes go through a process similar to Space Marines but with Big E's own Geneseed, meaning presumably the same issue would come up in their creation.
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>>65734379
They might not have gender restrictions per se, but their trials are so extreme as to surpass those of grey knights (who loose their entire personalities) by a fair margin, and each is unique and perfect.
I doubt that a woman could pass the requirements of simply being made into a custodes by matters of simple sexual dimorphism, if not a complication with the Emperors own genetics.
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>>65734409
I don't speak Crimson Fist, Amigo
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>>65734438
custodes don't use geneseed.
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>>65734129
Probably the later sine Fenris is either ice age winter or scourging summer
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>Dallas Open GT winner uses 35 rubrics and a pure TS list
Thots?
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>>65734485
I mean. Its possible one of the princes is a Thot.
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>>65734485
Thanks fuck it wasn't a TS+Nurgle Daemon Shitter
Also only 2 DPs, holy shit
He's pretty good if he wins with this, even if Triple Battalion gives you a lot of CP fun
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>>65734499
Ahriman a Thot
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>>65734022
Whats the chance of making a 9 inch charge with Evil Sunz ork boyz?
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>>65734568
I dunno, like the same as your chances of rolling a 9 on 2d6, so about average?
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Got bored so I decided to scratchbuild a little milling machine to go in my mekboy garage
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>>65734447
Except we don't know that at all. We know they go through a "different process" than Marines, and that this process is "extremely mysterious" and that barely any hopefuls actually survive it. Gene editing is absolutely confirmed, we have 0 idea of the how. There are no sources stating one way or the other except older outdated fluff which does actually mention them possibly being edited to have Big E's DNA.
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>>65734136
We must secure an existence for Eldar waifus and a future for the Aeldari children

Xenos rise up
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>>65734379
they're called sisters of silence you fucking retard. the only weakness the custodes have is to psychic power, so the two go hand in hand. I'm also going to assume that nulls can only be women since there seems to be no male ones.
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>>65734593
I dont want to buy the mek workshop Because the rules are so shit but damn it looks good
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>>65734622
Its loads of fun to paint, Im just using it for terrain
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When are Transgender marines getting representation?
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>>65734620
Culexus
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I work on the road a lot, are there affordable cases I can use to paint minis in a hotel room?
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>>65734112
use a bigger brush next time. also you couls cheat and dry brush it. it will be smooth but fuck your brush up. one direction as well
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>>65734653
I just use banker boxes with newspaper for padding. keeps stuff from moving around
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>>65734112
cover it with some decals and do some weathering, you'll be fine
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>>65734577
The rerolls should take it way above 50%
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>>65734660
>Bigger Brush
I was worried about doing that to begin with cause I didn't want to go over 'the lines' but halfway through I realised that it wouldn't really matter since I can clean it up or that it just isn't that bad. I do intend to do some dry brushing, though. how does drybrushing interact with the base colours, am I going to have worry about going back over them in a serious way?
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>>65734681
It's about 72%.
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Eldar are of course the superior race.
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WIP poorhammer, not looking too shabby

These ruins take 3 hours to make and there's trash everywhere. Thinking whether I should even make a third or keep it at two.
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>>65734696
>not looking too shabby
looking nice anon - good job
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>>65734379
Read the codex, you mong.
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>>65734620
There's a male blank in the Ciaphas Cain series of books.
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>>65734729
And in Ravenor
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>>65734740
And on the tabletop in the form of the culexus assassin model.
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>>65734724
Does that include trans-men?
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>>65734368
>black library writer
Can someone give me a rundown on this?

>>65734415
>a bit more offensive in reality
I just wish they wouldnt blunt the chaos blade so to speak. Most of the chaos daemon look more and more tame, daemonettes most of all but even horrors look less menacing.
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>>65734768
No, it does not include ben franklin
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Where da female necrons at?
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>>65734791
Not existing
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>>65734791
>metal alien skeletal that wants to abort all life
guess they're all women
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>>65734289
how would that make the hobby better?
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>>65734289
They already are a minimal profit
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>>65734791
Scared of Admech nerds and in hiding.
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Did you ask for this as well?
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>>65734342
fucking same the space wolf codex is the worst example i can think of how do you forget an entire page from a book?
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>>65734261
Be willing to spend more on making good video games than cheap ones.
Good ones gets their profit much easier.
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>>65734786
>pictured: the Frame Fatales runners.
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>>65734791
Probably half of the necron warriors, immortals, flayed ones, destroyers etc.

Breasts are made of flesh and roboskeletons don't have that.
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>>65734620
Sisters of silence are just female Nulls.
The rest either get lynched or get sent to the culexus temple.

Shadow seers also exist and gender is irrelevent to the,
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>>65734786
My favorite is the one with the goatee.
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>>65734822
>They already are a minimal profit
fuck off GW we don't want you anonymously on /ourboard/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-45019803

>pre-tax profits reach £74.5m, up from £38.4m.
>surge in revenue from £158m to nearly £220m.
> £5m bonus for staff in anticipation of the results.
>shares have risen by nearly 150%

https://s19485.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Annual-report-with-cover-final-v.pdf
pic related is the annual sharlehodler report for 2017-2018


>>65734817
>how would that make the hobby better?
shareholders don't care about the hobby only about profits
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>>65734856
that would be nice. Dawn of War 1/2 were so good and Space Marine was legit great.
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>>65734932

>shareholders don't care about the hobby only about profits

Why do dumb commies always believe this. The way for a Hobby company to make good profit is to be a good hobby company.

Compare how good of a hobby company GW was in 2010 to GW from 2018 and then compare profits
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HOW MANY
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>>65734786
>The entire left row has the same receeding hairline....

That's photoshopped right......r-right?
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>>65734639
Chaos spawn already have models
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>>65734956
>comparing a companies profit line from a recession and after a recession
I get what you mean my man but thats not gonna be a good line regardless.
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>>65734967

compare it to 2015 then, or even 2003
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>>65734956
>Why do dumb commies always believe this.
I am not a commie you moneyfag

>>65734956
>The way for a Hobby company to make good profit is to be a good hobby company.
I don't even disagree here, but stockholders don't care about the hobby or fans they want products be sold and not-so-much-profitable-stuff to go away.

>>65734960
5 or more
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>>65734440
N-no b-but genders are exactly the same!!!!
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>>65734786
Fucking purple hair girugamesh cunt on the right.
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>>65734960
HOW MANY WHAT?
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>>65734693
Then explain how they gave birth to Amallyn, a diminutive, tiny gremlin with a short temper and wiggly ears
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>>65734963
frog posters arent known to do this, but use your brain for a half second
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>>65734973
new primaris models
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>>65734963

No they are all siblings and its genetic dont stare
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>>65734973
what do you mean you dont know anon, the rules are very clear
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>>65734261
Told them to make a 40k app already and release weapon upgrade packs.

Also asked for more made-to-order opportunities so my faggy old pewter armies dont have to include plastic, but i doubt they care.
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>>65734974
Propaganda to confuse and demoralise the enemy
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>>65734786
Transgenders need to be gassed
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>>65734989
Amallyn doesn't look demoralizing at all.

She's a bit confusing though.
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>>65734993
yes
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>>65734974
YOU WILL PAY FOR THIS
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>>65734974
She's a good girl and just wants to help her homeworld
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>>65734995
Suspiciously large breasts for an Eldar.
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Where can I get audio dramas now that MEGA is dead?
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>>65735007
She's ANGRY.
ANGRY ABOUT YNNARI.
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>>65734956
Shareholders are often people who just dump money into a lot of things they have no interest in and prioritize maximum short term profit instead of long term revenue.
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>>65735016
Eldar women are Big tiddy goth gf energy made physical
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>>65735016
its all just molded in the armor, she's flatter than a poorhammer game table under there
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>>65735022
I use audiobookbay.
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>>65735028
The Body suit conforms to the body
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>>65735016
Full of Rage and Pride for her home planet
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>>65735040
that's what they tell you. she's actually got two coors party balls in there instead
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>>65735022
that's one of the only 2 official emperor on throne images that exist isnt it?
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>>65734112
How's this terminator look?
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>>65735035
I'm trying to find Incorruptible.http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Incorruptible_(Audio_Drama
Unfortunately its not in audiobookbay.
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>>65735054
There's this Giger ass thing too
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Any Death Guard boys mind posting your lists? Or general advice for a complete noobie?
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>>65735054
It is in fact official.
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>>65735075
How many points?
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>>65735049
Regardless Eldar ass is a gift from isha and it must be cherished
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>>65734433
Today, i hope
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Just found a little tidbit straight from GW themselves.

Sisters of Battle Squads will be £35.
Also the SoB army prize in the Survey will be a total value of £250.

Source:
https://whc-cdn.games-workshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Warhammer-Community-Survey-2019-Terms-and-Conditions.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2ZIdslMErvo-82ediF_S_m2R-Fn2IOwBVGH2ehHwk0bSGev38cOSaCNhE

Enjoy!
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>>65734831
Guarantee that's a fat chick or a fat tranny
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>>65735023
AAAANGERY
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>>65735083
I'll take what I can get but the event I was hoping to join was a 25PL to 75PL escalation league, I'm curious as to whats working for everyone and what kind of synergies there are
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>>65735026
not goths, new romantics
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Beakies and gorgets don't go together. People need to stop doing this.
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>>65735085
isha says hello from the garden
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>>65735112
Beakies need to stop.
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>>65734620
That maiden is a cutie, not gonna lie.
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>>65735096
whomst else?

>>65735068
how grimdarker....i really like it...must be from RT or one of the earliest editions?

>>65735077
THE official?

I always thought pic related was "the official"
so we have 3 pics of big e is there another i still dont know about?
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>>65735107
a lord of chaos is good, a blight-hauler is also good
arch-contaminator on a LoC with Fugaris' Helm is wack
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>>65735059
I have no idea desu, looks fine enough to me.
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>>65734822
Imagine shilling this hard for less than minimal wage.
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>>65735141
it's the same as this
went and found a webcam for a proper pic
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>>65735137
Both the first one posted and the Giger one were in the Rogue Trader book. The one you posted came later
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>>65734336
Dude won a GT this past weekend with two battalions of rubrics. Maybe he got lucky maybe people should try new things
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So did they say what this thing was or not?
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>>65735230
Top hatch
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>>65735230
Those arrows mean it's a SoB vehicle. Almost certainly an Exorcist.
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>>65735236
>Those arrows mean it's a SoB vehicle.
Dunecrawler and taurox both have the same details on their top hatches.
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>>65735230
It's my butthole that is sealed against the big gay that is castellan knight.
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>>65734786
Why do we pander this mental disorder again?
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>>65734261
Random turns from AoS
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>>65735236
It's a common motif on many Imperial vehicles.
It's just as likely an Ad-Mech or Imp tank as Sisters.
More likely it isn't even them as no previous SoB tank had those markings. We don't even know if they will now have them or not.
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How often did you made the survey? i did it 3 times
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>>65734485
>rubbadubs are bad, you only take tzangor

Hmm
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>>65735280
You should ask GW. They seem more than fine with it.
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>>65735297
>Implying thats not just the standard of actual women in Britain.
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>>65735154
hell yeah dude, keep doing you.
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>>65734653
I use a tupperware container filled with paper.
I place that in a backpack with a bunch of paint in a little box, a wet pallete, and use any cup and drinking water to work on my minis at work.

It's honestlu pretty serviceable.
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>>65735284
...
Why
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>>65734485
What rules does the Dallas Open play by? Because for all we know it was a mono faction ETC tournament with obscure rules that rubrics bypass.
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>>65735302
sounds about right, UK is just an island full of ugly fuckers
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>>65735302

Nah it's a trap wearing a wig, I see her and the middle guy playing at WHW every week and she has scraggly thin brown hair with Male pattern baldness.
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>>65734831
I wish fascism was real, just so these "people" got curb stomped.
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>>65734831

What does this mean? Someone talking about dreadsocking but I dont understand why
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>>65735321
still doesn't mean most british women don't look like that by default
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>>65734696
Add something to the Pringles cans. Like some circuit breakers or bricks to imply towers.

This should look bretty good primed.
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>>65735331
paranoid and mentally unwell individuals that want to cause violence against imaginary enemies.
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>>65735331
They want to attack people because they think people have different beliefs than them.
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>>65734786
Is this just a gathering of the bene gesserit?
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>>65735367
>Not recognizing a genestealer cult
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>>65735313
Because it works
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>>65735388
Now I want to make a genestealer edit. Maybe later when I have time.
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>>65735415
Whu
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Sup bois, I need some assistance. I'm trying to convert up some armigers and for reasons I need to get both of the helverin autocannons on the same arm and also magnetize it so that I can swap it with a warglaive arm, but I'm having difficulty slapping the two pieces together and not having it look like shit. Any tips?
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>>65734682
dry brushing inteacts with the base coat minimally in terms of making new colors. youll see more of a pop with dry brushing. when youre painting the base coat still try to be neat but you can touch up later. looks like youre primer was poorly applied. hold the can a bit closer and do a swooping motion, spraying before you hit the model
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Q. How does this list work? (10 points)
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>>65734597
Different anon, but...
Gene seed is different to gene editing.
And we also know that the process is unique to each custodian, ruling out gene seed, which is exactly the answer to standardised gene modification.
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>>65734956
no. i invest in x company based on short trm profits and sell when they deliver
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>>65735603

First, Sean nayden is arguably the best technical 40K player in the world. So that helps.

That aside, it relies heavily on using the Character rule to full advantage. The Yncarne is generally used to appear next to a high value target when something dies, than heroic Intervention into them.

Maugan Ra with Soulburst gets 16 shots, Solitaires with Soulbrust get crazy as fuck, Death jesters are used to kill off specific models in units (NOT for character sniping usually).

Wyches are to lock stuff up in melee and stop them falling back, and often get ignored due to how many threats there are.

its insanely technical and tricky to run.
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>>65735603
It's weird. 10 rangers is odd, and maugan ra with no reapers is odd.

I can't hate it, it's just odd.
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>>65734252

Go check who just won GT. I'll give you a hint, he had rubrics, but no Tzaangors.
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>>65735603
Why did you post a photo of a blank piece of paper?
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>>65735630
Is he the list listed in this thread? Cause he had 2 units but mostly rubrics.
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>>65735628

Correct. It also uses a lot of its cp to deepstrike in both squads of wyches and jetbikes for tri pointing. 10pts.

>>65735629

It's a very particular list
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>>65735630

He had 58 tzangoors
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>>65735054
Ha, no.
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>>65735646

Yeah. its the kind of list i really want netlisters to try because "its not about the player" :D
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>>65735636

Use your eyes
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>>65735656
Yeah it really showcases the players skill, hope they dont nerf anything because of it.
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>>65734593
that's fucking cool, what bits did you use?
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>>65735674

Ynnari are probably on the block desu, but not because of this list.
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>>65734593
thats pretty cute :3
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>>65734134
3 Company Commanders And 3 Infantry Squads? What?

You do realize a Company Commander can issue 2 orders per turn, right?
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>>65735126
She's blushing because her Custodes companion complemented her on her hair, for taking care of it so well.
Later, she will return to her sisters to avidly thought-squeal in excitement together in a huddle of power armour.
Nearby menials will assume they're plotting something bad, and may kill them for noticing.
The Custodes will perhaps guess at what they're signing, but they can't see into the huddle.
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You guys saw that holy emperor's church that was built 8000 years ago burn? A bad day for the imperium
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>>65735678

I hope not, I hope they get revised though so they're less hated and more balanced. I also hope they dont take Doomseers away from dark eldar and harlewuins its the only thing keeping elves competitive
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>>65734147
They are stacked though.
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>>65735689
?
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>>65734870
>Female Flayers happen
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>>65735703
Notre Dame is fallen
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>>65735703
Notre Dame
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>>65734978
0.
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>>65735694

My DEldar will certianly hate losing Doomseers. Without it they'll be maybe mid or lower top tables still though i think, but definitely not challenging Imp Soup.

I agree on Ynnari. I'm not sure how to balance them around Soulburst though without fundamentally changing it. Maybe just delete Word of The Phoenix? Having to position units well instead of just auto-soulburst (well, very likely anyway) once a turn would help.
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>>65735092
That's almost half their current price. Noice.
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>>65735716
>>65735717
I actually cried. Maybe it's geological but it felt horrible. Glad they got all the important stuff out and no one got hurt. But it's just so awful.
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>>65734810
not all women, just the black ones from the US, if we go by abortion metrics from around the globe.
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>>65735630
>No tzaangors
>Tzaangors x30
>Tzaangors x28
Go be a retard somewhere else
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>>65735085
unless isha is a plastic surgery clinic, then your kind of a wrong. Eldar have a super low fat % in their body. And this means no ass, and no boobs.
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>>65735694
They are hated because they don't belong
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>>65735154
your webcam is awful as your photo skill
but the mini looks good
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Why is there STILL the old CSM codex in the megas and not the new one?
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>>65735781
The stone structure stood and they were able to keep the bells from falling and destroying the towers, it is a shame that the forest was completely destroyed, though
Hopefully the rebuild efforts go well, if hate to lose such a piece of architecture
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>>65735804
Yes they are lean, moreso then humans. You do understand that fat can be distributed Yes?
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>>65735853
The new one's there. I have it and sure as hell haven't bought it.
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>>65735853
Dude look at any eldar without armour, or at Yvraine. She's bountiful all over. Not surprising that Bobby went after her.
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>>65734786
imagine the smell
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>>65735059
Bit hard to tell from that pic but looks pretty solid
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Going to warhammer world next week. Want to bring all my nu chaos stuff. How much of a dickweed will I look without a fully painted army. Probably just primed and a bit of highlighting with my airbrush.

Also, anything else to know before heading up there?
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>>65735904

At least base your army.
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Just got this bad boy. One of my favourite models ever.
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Dark apostle chants seem so fucking low effort.
>here's a minus 1 and a plus 1 here
>were just stealing the most generic buffs, nothing interesting
>God specific buffs are just "+2 to tgh,str,wounds"

And this is ignoring that he's a direct downgrade who can't even get a reliable aura, and all his buffs aren't even auras. He's even allergic to transportation with his abilities taking 3 rounds to go off.

If he had every prayer available to him and could act as a Swiss army knife, that would have been something. But he's just a discount sorceror with dog shit range and can only cast one spell.

And I really like his fucking model.
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>>65735930
God fuck Finecast, those bubbles on the little ball in the bottom left corner are fucking atrocious.
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>>65735880
Fuck I forgot to tell them they're giving free money to recasters with their shitty practices. Oh well guess I'll keep buying from ching chongs.
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>>65735904
Paint your army you cunt.
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>>65735856
xenology states, among many other things, tha they have less then 1% body fat. they store no extra nutrition as their body is super efficient. They effecivly poop out crystlised matter.

With 1% of fat. your getting zero bubble butt and flat chest.
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>>65735953
There's no bubbles, that ball has holes so the burning incense inside can come out.
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>>65735927
You mean base as in complete their bases or base coat them?

The latter is my minimum aim.

No chance I'm gonna get bases done for 2000pts of brand new models in a week though. Not unless I do a real basic shitty job which isn't an option.
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>>65735869
illusion created by psychic power. without seeing them naked it is impossible to check if an eldar is male or female. Worse because their quinthelix DNA and ability to rearange it, and eldar can , given time of course, switch from being male to female or something in between.
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>>65735968
They must eat very little then.
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>>65735968
Xenology is also horrifically out of date and is non canon.
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>>65735975

That's too bad. I always find the black bases straight-outta-the-box to be the most boring part of a semi-painted army.
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>>65735930
I love the model but wtf are they doing with the finecast shit...

it looks like it was made out of soap and got wet...
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>>65735968
Xenology was written by a mad man techpriest everything has to be taken with grain of salt

What we CAN gather from xenology for eldar is:
They have low body fat content
Dense spring like muscle fibres
All systems are highly efficient
Conception takes several goes to get an offspring
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>>65735989
Why, because the genius writer ADB says so? All the stuff they wrote after Wood left the company, and they let gav *spit* thorpe do more then bring coffee is non canonical.

>>65735988
yes.
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>>65736015
Gav thorpe and Andy chambers are only two people that can be trusted in gw with eldar
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>>65736006
yeah. That is like saying we aren't using Mendele Data and result in research even today. If you take 10 eldar scrub them out of fat, and you come with an avarge of 0,5-2% fat, then madness would be to say it is so because eldar are in to liposuction. Not the fact that the avarge falls around 2%. Dude sees ton of nerv clusters in the ears, same number of them only exists in the eldar brain and genitals, well then two things can happen. either eldar think with their ears, or they fuck with them. Am like the tech priest in the fuck camp, because eldar are decadent assholes.
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How does Kharn scale compared to the new chaos chads? I sure hope he's not a seething manlet
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>>65736035
Isn't Gav Thorpe the one who wrote that the Eldar were Slaanesh worshippers?
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>>65736004
I had to put it under warm water to fix the bent crozius, it wasn't completely dry yet when I took the pic.
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>>65736056
Was he released before or after the new rubrics?
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>>65736035
I remember Gav Thorpe when he was an intern at GW and his main job was bringign coffee. The mother fucker stole material from two of my friends, and then because we was buddy buddy with Johnsos, another prime asshole in the company, he had the kicked out. And then he had the nerv to publicise the whole idea in WD journal as his own. He is a little left leaning communist bastard and fuck him.
Chambers at least was left but based. He was of the fuck, smoke and booz up type of lefty. Hates the royalists and the queen, which I can forgive him because besides of that he was a good guy. gav *spit* thorpe was never a good guy. Fuck he never really was a guy. I have no idea what he was. Not once did I see him hang around with other co workers post work at a pub. Only sneaking around the company with that genius of game design johnson.
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>>65736035
Gav Thorpe is a fucking mongoloid who takes every excuse he can to kill off vast numbers of Eldar for the pettiest reason. Guy Haley has only written one Eldar novel but it completely blows everything Gav has produced out of the water.
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>>65736040
He had one sample to take for fat and probably didn't take into account they could have some substitute.

And the nerve endings on the ears are just like cat whiskers, if you have something protruding from your body you want it to be sensitive warn you if its about to hurt. For females it probably just stimulates arousal
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>>65736059
That was CS goto

>>65736081
>What is path of the eldar
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>>65736076
I'm not sure, but I would guess before. He seems to have been around for a while
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>>65736059
Nah, that was Goto. The fucking madman.
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What’s the point of meganobz nowadays if they cost a shit ton of points and their once feared power klaws now only slaps for d3 damage?
MANz missiles used to delete tanks and characters, now they’ll tickle at best
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Any ideas on how I should do some burst Cannon door gunners on my Hammerhead?

Was thinking either doing Huey-style Vietnam look, or trying to find inspiration to turn the hatches into sponsons. You guys got any ideas?
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>>65736095
>What is path of the eldar

A shit series of books?
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>>65736056
doenst matter if manlet or not he is awesome

>>65736067
>bent croziu
how much did you pay for this?
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>>65736121
I’ve never heard of that. What are you going to put where the burst cannons normally Go?

Door gunners would look cool.
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>>65734786
Fucking hell you scared me for a second.

Though It would not be uterlly unexpected if THAT was true.
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>>65736124
Unfortunately that shit series of books is the only proper portrayal we have that isn't over a decade old.
It may not have the best narrative but the insights it gives is what matters
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Can I use CSM strategems in a DG army? I don't have my codex, so I can't check.
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>>65736081
true.

>>65736082
xenobiology show the full autopsy of an eldar, and mentioned multiple eldar bodies, and weapons recovered, And what happened to an unlucky xenobiologos adept that tried to chainsaw an eldar soul stone.

>>65736081
Man I remember when Chambers worked on the real 4ed for 9 months. Interactive game play, more squad based games, no more IGYG. Shows it off at a meating. The lord and master JJ is against him "it would be too confusing for people" , it is too gamey , not flexible enough for people to invent rules on the go and crap like that. And the sycophant *spit* thorpe supports him. Chambers could have just quit there and then, his contract was already ending anyway. But did he do it, was he a bitch? no he showed how "hard" it is to design a core edition rule set the way JJ wants it to be... in 24 hours, less to be precise, considering the next meting was next day at 11, and he wasn't working on it like a schoolboy on his homework till the last second. Went to blizzard did good stuff there. I may not agree with him on social stuff or religion, but he was based then. And I doubt blizzard broke him .
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>>65736149
Sure, there are some useful insights into Eldar culture and society there, but the overarching story is retarded and the characters completely braindead. The fact that Gav falls back on the painfully tired trope of the Eldar being fucked over by what is supposed to be their greatest strength (their ability to perceive and manipulate the future) just shows how utterly devoid of imagination, and perversely obsessed with making the Eldar look bad, he is.

If you want to read an actual good Eldar novel, try Farseer by Bill King, or Valedor by Guy Haley.
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>>65736163
If you bring a CSM detachment
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>>65736175
But all DG have the "Heretic Astartes" tag.
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>>65735904
They wont care, no one will care. I play there weekly vs grey tide no one said a thing
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>>65735968
They're also hyper efficient with their huge tits and asses.
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>>65736186
Yes but you don't get Stratagems unless you play the faction. You don't get Demon strats either just because you summoned some.
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>>65734261
Told them their shit is too expensive.
I guess most people have already given up trying that answer since I dont see it being mentioned much.
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>>65736197
Yes, but it's a full detachment of troops that have both "death guard" and "heretic astartes" tags.
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>>65736174
I was going to read that. Currently reading path of the Outcast. The path of the dark eldar after that
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>>65735012
Unity Ain't free. The Rebirth of Ancient Days gotta be litterd with the blood of Mon'keigh. Yvraine the COMMORRITE aka "Daughter of Shades" is not my autrach. she is dark kin necromancer and probbaly worshiper of she-who-thirsts as well :DD. BAZAKHAIN and Khaine not Necromancy and YNNEAD ok. praise asuryan.
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>>65736210
fag
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>>65736136
Probably keep drones there, these drones were some if the first I painted, then liked it so much I had to do the rest.

Really makes vehicles pop, and I dig it. For the gunners though I'm upgrading my first Devilfish to a Railhead, so he is gonna need some kind of neat conversion
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>>65736213
lol XD :D
would be funnier with bear picture
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>>65734620
Culexus Assassins are nulls and can be of either gender. The reason there are so many more female nulls than males is that a girl with a subtle aura of wrongness is much more likely to avoid getting killed as a child than a guy.
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>>65736210
You have to bring a Chaos Space Marine Detachment.
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>>65736226
that 's the shit I wanna see
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>>65736238
so DG doesn't get to use anti-air, then
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>>65736136
That or I'm going to undermount 2 old broadside Railguns to the SMS drones
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>>65736262
They can, if you bring a Chaos Space Marine detachment.
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>>65736126
That's true, I just have scale autism so if he is the same size as old manlets it would bother me. If hes about DV chosen size I can live with it
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>>65736281
>>65736262
hey fags
10 chaos cultists, a heldrake with an autocannon, and a warpsmith is exactly 250pt
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>>65736290
Wait are dv chosen smaller?
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>>65735942
They are also way too expensive for a 3 attacks character.
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>>65734126
>not a Crusader patter helm
Dost thou even crusade sir?
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how can i take the current warhammer community survey multiple times?
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>>65735062
make an audible account and liston to Blade of Purity (contains true name and incorrupitble) for free then delete your account all for free.
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>>65736035
Neither of those are Jes Goodwin
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>>65736339
thanks

i am an idiot
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>>65736302
Chosen are the same size as the BSF marines, which I assume are the same as the new ones. Definitely not the height of old manlets
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Taking this supreme meme dream team to an event this weekend, what am I in for?

Super-Heavy Detachment +6CP (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [60 PL, 2CP, 1056pts]

Household Choice: House Griffith

Knight Gallant [20 PL, 352pts]: Character (Knight Lance), Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike gauntlet, Warlord, Warlord Trait: Landstrider

Knight Gallant [20 PL, 352pts]: Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: Ravager, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike gauntlet

Knight Gallant [20 PL, 352pts]: Character (Heirloom of the House), Heavy Stubber, Heirloom: The Paragon Gauntlet, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike gauntlet

Super-Heavy Detachment +3CP (Imperium - Imperial Knights) [48 PL, 6CP, 942pts]

Household Choice: House Griffith

Armiger Warglaives [9 PL, 174pts]
. Armiger Warglaive: Meltagun

Armiger Warglaives [9 PL, 174pts]
. Armiger Warglaive: Meltagun

Knight Valiant [30 PL, 594pts]: Character (Exalted Court), Character (Knight Lance), Warlord Trait: Ion Bulwark
. Two Siegebreaker Cannons and Two Shieldbreaker Missiles: 2x Shieldbreaker Missile, 2x Twin Siegebreaker Cannon

++ Total: [108 PL, 8CP, 1998pts] ++
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>>65735322
Fascism is real. The greatest trick it ever pulled was pretending to be dead.
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>>65736327
go to a cyber cafe or your local library, mongrel
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>>65734357
well I want it. You dont but I do. So what are we gonna do now?
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>>65734386
I second that
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How should I gear my second Chaos Lord whose purpose is to guard my ranged squads and provide provide the reroll-buff?
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>>65736488
Boltpistol and Chainsword. If you get 3 points to spend, grab a chainaxe and a combibolter.

That's it.
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>>65736488
Powerfist and Combi-Meltagun with Chainfist
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>>65736502
>If you get 3 points to spend, grab a chainaxe and a combibolter.
I most certainly will, thanks!
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>>65734993
no
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>>65736097
I don't have the model, but if it was released before the rubrics, he's probably deathwatch sized at best. Which, with his pose, I don't think it's even noticeable.
>>65736126
Like 10€ but it's resin, it's easy as hell to fix a bent crozius.
>>65736290
I feel you, that's why I hope they update the loyal kits. I've started a CSM after the new ones and they are fantastic.
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>>65736539
>scions with a grenade launcher and flamer
mfw
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reminder
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Oh shit when did all those megas go down? So much for reading Lords of Silence
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>>65736624
fuck off faggot
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>>65736645
We have to buy them now
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>>65736615
problem?
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>>65736624
WAAAAAAAAAH WHY ARE ORKFAGS NOT GETTING AS MUCH SHIT WAAAAAAH
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>>65736450
>"In Italy there are two types of fascists: fascists and anti-fascists."
-Ennio Flaiano
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>>65736624
One day he'll either have to give up or find himself posting pics of models that are over a year old
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>>65736697
What a load of shit.
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>>65736716
>t. antifa larper
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>>65736716
t. rear-roasted """anti-fascist"""
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>>65736716
How is it a load of shit?
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>>65736733
Peope seem to not really know what fascism is and call everything fascism. No, being against fascism doesn't make you a fascist by definition.
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Where did the 40k audiobook mega go? :(
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>>65736624
based
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>>65736444
Forgot the 3 battle forged cp you can add it in scribe
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>>65736754
Down
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>>65736748
The quote was probably claiming that the antifascists in QUESTION acted just as bad as the fascists they opposed, and indeed a lot them in general act like absolute intolerant thugs
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3rd try after i posted in the wrong thread and the last 40kg got archived:

Restarted 40k after 10 years of pause. I (Space Marines) am playing against a few friends next week. My army is nothing special but i heard that one of the guys is playing with 4 leman russ in his 1000 points list. What am i supposed to do against that? I have like 4 anti tank weapons in my army. Is this guy a huge dick or am i missing something? I also read that leman russ can shoot twice, so D48 S8 shots from the tanks each turn?

I don't want to die. :(

This isn't meant as an "omg space marines are bad" post
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>>65736787
If that's the case, then okay. But still, calling something fascism just because of intolerance is downplaying what fascism really implies.
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>>65736808
Use proper terrain so he can't shoot your anti tank units with all of them at all times and bring lascannons to pop a tank or two each turn.
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>>65736822
Fascism is literally just government ran by a single party.
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>>65736822
Words like Nazi, Communist and fascist have all been significantly watered down over the years, that's just how language works
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>>65736673
wysiwyg is one mean mistress
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>>65736822
Seeing that Ennio Flaiano actually lived in Italy in the early 20th century and witnessed the rise of actual fascism, I would like to imagine he has some understanding of the subject matter. I would think he wouldn't make such a statement if he didn't see the people opposing the rise of Italian fascists acting in a manner that was similar to the fascists themselves.
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>>65735689
Burning churches is kind of the Emperor's thing. He takes videos.
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>>65736837
No, it means an authoritarian regime and the believe of racial and cultural superiority, worship to the army and the figure of the leader and that it's their duty to wage war and conquest other people.
>>65736849
Which is sad, because it has meant that the actual fascists have been reappearing.
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>>65736649
>We have to buy them now
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>>65736853
>mistress wysiwyg
I unironically like her. I hate proxies/stand-ins

and because I use my old kaskrin as scions, they come with a flamer and a grenade launchner....and ride a chimera
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>>65736931
>No, it means an authoritarian regime and the believe of racial and cultural superiority, worship to the army and the figure of the leader and that it's their duty to wage war and conquest other people.
Is this what Antifa actually thinks? If so it explains why they are so insane.
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>>65736931
>It's Fascism!
Mussolini's Doctrine Of Fascism is literally a few mouse clicks away, anon.
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I miss the older edition days of weapons feeling more unique and powerful. Now a strong weapon is one that’s spammed easily, instead of an actual strong weapon that can instakill/pen tanks/ has special rules to help, and you’d only have so many of them in an army. Now it’s “I need like 9 lascannons in my list and like 15 hellblasters” whereas back when a few melta guns or a squad of termies with some power/chainfists could fuck someone’s day in half. Especially abusing hidden power fists in a marine squad was fun.
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>>65736931
>No, it means an authoritarian regime and the believe of racial and cultural superiority, worship to the army and the figure of the leader and that it's their duty to wage war and conquest other people.
>t. brainlet who can't factcheck on the internet
but your description is what is engraved in the modern pop/pulp culture
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>>65737019
Antifa doesnt know what it means. Speak to 10 different antifas and youll get 10 different definitions, all tailored to whom the individual in question doesnt personally like. That doesnt stop them from grouping up and all hating their different varieties of fascists, because they're too clueless to realize that theyre all fighting different things.
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>>65737061
can we stop talking about shit house politics on a 40kg thread thank you very much
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>>65737043
The huge downside of those powerful weapons was lots of vehicles being unusable just because the vehicle damage chart existed. I had too many Battlewagons popped on turn 1 by the first shot aimed at them that left Meganobz walking to ever miss the time when expensive vehicles could be easily one-shot
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>>65737088
the skeletor is right.

there are no (obvious) sjw here so we can freely discuss our hobby....

>>65736615
regardless of that mfw-moment what do you say bout the list?
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>>65737013
people who believe wysiwyg is a good balancer for the game obviously never played someone who was determined to exploit that balance with time and money.
Any ways I play an entire army of tempestus scions and Taking them in a transport other than a valkyrie feels so wrong but you do you
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>>65737088
what's your favorite tau unit
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>>65737028
Not him but so is the communist manifesto and that doesn't stop people from saying shit.
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>>65736056
I don't have any of the shadspire dudes but this should give you an idea
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>>65737133
i like them broadside suits and riptides personnaly, but i also kind alike the fire warrior aesthetic, yours?
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>>65737133
kino-wise it's fire warrior breachers
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>>65737122
the list is not great but by my standards its bad
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>>65737134
go to /pol/
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>>65737143
>Kharn the undrilled
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>>65736748
To be fair facism is quite hard to get your mind around. That does not excuse people misusing the term, though.
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whast your guys avourite black library book
mines a toss up between eveliving legion or the new wicked and the damned
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>>65737171
elaborate on that...

>>65737125
can't the models be built with magnets so you can switch gear? Did anybody ever try that?
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>>65737179
I have a really hard time drilling the hole into the center of the barrel. Would a black dot be sufficient? There isn't a single drilled barrel in that photo
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>>65737211
I haven't read that many but my favourites are Helsreach and Rynn's World. I liked the Guilliman novel and Watchers of the Throne too.
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>>65737238
Prick a point with a needle to position the drillbit with
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>>65734965

kek
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>>65737238
how to drill 101:
>take a pin or needle, something with a fine point
>press a shallow mark in the middle of the barrel
>take 0.2mm bit and drill in the point you made
>take 0.4mm bit and repeat
>keep increasing bit girth until satisfied
rookie mistake is taking the 'correct' bit and trying to drill without the 'leading' bores
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>>65737274
I'll try that, but I need to buy some new drill bits first, the one I have is rather dull
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>>65736808
Offensively, bring more anti-tank - this edition, melta is badly overcosted relative to other options, so that predominantly means lascannons and suicide plasma. Defensively, an Ancient can help, as can cheap(ish) vehicles to block LOS (there aren't any Leman Russes that can ignore LOS when shooting), like razorbacks.
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>>65737228
Are those the only units you have or is that the limit for your game type
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>>65737306
I've never thought to purchase such a small drill bit before. I have used pilot holes when I drill holes for stuff like magnets but never for something that small before
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>>65737335
the only models i have so far.
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>>65737143
>slightly smaller than a plague chad
I'll take it, thanks anon. Its not like he isn't gonna end up on a heap of skulls, anyway.
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>>65737367
Well that's mostly due to him performing a rendition of Michael Jackson's "Smooth Criminal"
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>>65737362
since you are running cadian I recommend making he tank leman russ into a tank commander and remove the flamer sponsens for plasma cannons. split the kasrkin squad to 2 5 man teams deep striking so you can have a battalion. also get rid of the platoon commander because he is worthless in this low points game.
Also give the tank commander the relic battle cannon from vigilus for 1 cp and your list will be good to go
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>>65737438
based
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>>65737179
>plasma guns have barrels
lol
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>>65737463
Of course they do. How is the plasma shot going to come out of the weapon if there's no barrel?
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>>65736808
>>65737319

Thanks for the advice

I have a pretty limited roster:
The only real options i have left are one vindicator and 6 assault troops with a melta bomb or 5 terminators with a cyclone missle launcher (and one chainfist).
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>>65737449
>split the kasrkin squad to 2 5 man teams deep striking so you can have a battalion.

what is deep strike? (non-english anon)
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>>65737449
now i am left with 43 points left...what do with'em?
++ Patrol Detachment (Imperium - Astra Militarum) [26 PL, 457pts] ++

+ No Force Org Slot +

Regimental Doctrine: Regiment: Cadian

+ HQ +

Tank Commander [12 PL, 213pts]: Augur array, Heavy Bolters, Hunter-Killer Missile, Lascannon, Storm Bolter
. Command Battle Tank: Battle Cannon

+ Troops +

Infantry Squad [3 PL, 67pts]
. 5x Guardsman
. Guardsman W/ Special Weapon: Plasma gun
. Guardsman w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Heavy Weapon Team: Missile launcher
. Sergeant: Chainsword, Laspistol

Militarum Tempestus Scions [5 PL, 69pts]
. 3x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Flamer
. Scion w/ Vox-caster: Vox-caster
. Tempestor: Hot-shot Laspistol, Power sword

Militarum Tempestus Scions [3 PL, 52pts]
. 3x Scion
. Scion w/ Special Weapon: Grenade Launcher
. Tempestor: Hot-shot Laspistol, Power sword

+ Fast Attack +

Armoured Sentinels [3 PL, 56pts]
. Armoured Sentinel: Hunter-killer missile, Lascannon

++ Total: [26 PL, 457pts] ++

Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net)
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>>65737574
from turn 2 onwards you can call down a unit that was put into deep strike in the deployment phase 9 inches from an enemy model and 6 inches from table edge
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>>65737618
put in the company commander for the extra cp because it can be a battalion also get rid of the vox casters to upgrade the heavy boltor sponsens into plasma
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>>65737489
Plasma is not solid matter and can move through many surfaces, especially high energy vaporize-shit plasma. The higher energy it is the more it's going to be able to move through things. We don't know that plasma weapons actually have barrels.
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>>65737497
None of those options are great ones this edition, but if you have 6 jump pack dudes, can you swing 1 as a jump librarian with Veil of Time (or some other source of re-rolling charges, like Kayvaan Shrike) and the other 5 as Vanguard Vets with SS+TH?
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>>65737104
7th ed had a decent vehicle damage chart with an explodes result being a 7 so only anti tank weps could actually one shot a tank and it was still difficult.

There must be a fine balance between weapons not being spammy shitbags and weapons OHKOing things
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Whorehammer: 69, 000
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>>65737716
Plasma is still matter, and plasma weapons probably have barrels, since modern day plasma weapons all have barrels. Plasma as a state of matter is a lot like a gas, except that it's intrinsically ionized - the big difference between a plasma and a gas is that a plasma's electrons have all "fallen off". That's where we get depictions of plasma weapons as shooting "balls" - the scifi idea is that since the plasma has a charge, it might be possible to spin a blob of it such that the moving charged particles create a magnetic field that helps the spinning blob maintain its blob shape. Modern day plasma guns can't do this, so they shoot what looks and feels like a stream of hot gas.
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>>65737666
>put in the company commander for the extra cp because it can be a battalion
thanks satan - will do

he'll wield a power sword and a plasmapistol

>>65737666
>also get rid of the vox casters to upgrade the heavy boltor sponsens into plasma
i dont have plasma sponsons - i play wysiwyg

>>65737637
that sounds nice.
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>>65737716
Dude... they have barrels.
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>>65737772
One of the best ways to avoid weapon spam is to ensure different weapons are best at killing different targets, so spamming too much of any 1 weapon cripples your ability to fight whatever your weapon is bad at fighting.

Another way sadly takes more math - in the fluff, many weapons are coming from a fixed supply because the AdMech forgot how to make them. You simulate that with increased costs for weapons as they're spammed, to represent exhausting a supply that is more exhausted every time you take one out - e.g. if your SM chapter literally only has 50 plasma guns left, the first is 1/50 of your remaining guns, but the second is 1/49, and so on, so increasing costs, rather than flat, are a better model.
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Green and brown plaguebearers, or rainbow plaguebearers? I can't decide pls help
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>>65737823
Green and brown, with occasional yellow.
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>>65736624
Good. Why would I want to spend a shitload of money just to win
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>>65736624
also orks already got a bunch of new models earlier, the new cannons, meganobs, gork & morkanaut that was the real orktober
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does anyone know a cheap site to buy swamp terrain ? or is willing to commission some ?

theres the table
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>>65737962
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>>65734295
Well we used to be able to buy individual havocs and other specialist metals so it wasn't a massive issue
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>>65737999
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>>65737823
Pale
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>>65737716
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>>65737823
SEPERATE BUT EQUAL
RAINBOW 1488
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>>65737888
Chaos also hot a bumch of new models rarlier, the entire dinobot line, thousand sons and Lord of Skulls and daemon chariot/bikes
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TYRANID VS ORKS WHO'S MORE TOP TIER ATM ?
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>>65737804
put in the relic battle cannon from vigilus it also given you access to a cool strategem
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>>65738060
Genestealer Kults, employing genestolen orks.
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>>65738056
SHIT UR RIGHT, but that was during the dark vengeance release right ?

this is out of nowhere. the only reason they are doing all this is to make the chaos marines taller so they arent marinelets compared to primaris. pretty sure other races will stay the same cept newer units & plastics over resin but not replacement kits
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>>65737716
Fire is plasma dude. Can you just push some fire through glass, metal, paper?
Not without burning them into a pile of carbon first.
I know this is sci-fi plasma so might as well be magic, but you're making assumptions and speaking with authority where we don't necessarily know if 40k plasma can just "phase" through things.
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>>65738140
Only way I can think of for phasing to come up for Imperium weapons is for shit to get Warpy, and plasma guns aren't that.
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is somebody willing to write me a list if I write down all the models I have for my army ?? I don't have much so theres only like 2 or 3 lists I can do but I don't know what's better.

gazgull, warboss, 2 kff meks
70 boys
10 nobs atleast 6 with pklaws
10 tankbustas 2 bomb squids
snikrot and like 5 or 6 commandos(pointless I know)
15 lootas ( but I can proxy the tankbustas for an xtra ten )
4 truks (can be proxied as Mek Gunz)
2 Battlewagons (deffrollas)
2 dakkajets
1 deffdread
6 killa kans
10 deffkoptas

I usually run warboss, 40 boys pklay nobs in 2 battlewagons, 15 lootas with kff mek, 2 dakkajets, and a unit footslogging to grab objectives.
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>>65737716
>>65738140
It's super heated ionised gas.
If you pipe it through a barrel it's going to act like napalm
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>>65737819
Or simply limited availability. Older editions had the boon of each weapon being really good at only one thing, and being only minorly accessible. You could get a fair amount of plasma guns into the field in a marine army but they would only do so much. They could ping light vehicles out and chunk MEQ and TEQ, but that was it.
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>>65737772
If an AP1 shot penetrated an open-topped vehicle, it'd explode it on a coin flip
It was shitty
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>>65738214
Besides the kans and deffkoptas most of the rest is decently meta capable and even the kopas have their use as token fast attack for a brigade.
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>>65738309
How many AP1 shots did you put out in a turn, and why were they targeting your dinky open-tops? The worst part of open tops was that flamers would hit the passengers
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>>65738042
Oh fug, clownpilled nurgle is perfect. Carnival of nurgle here we go!
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Man, this makes for a good reaction image
>MFW PE are still shit
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>>65738312
so what do you think of this list
Pklaw warboss w/ 12 shot shooter artifact
2 Kff mek

40 boys with pklaw nob in 2 deffrolla wagons rolling upfield to assault

21 boys with warboss & kff mek footslogging to objectives / whatever assault shit the enemy sends

15 lootas with 2nd kff mek

2 xtra shoota dakkajets
3 deffkoptas

1750 with 9 CP
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>>65738445
Sadly it doesn't because the face itself is too small in the thumbnail.
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>>65738323
Depends, did you have like 3 - 6 broadside battlesuits? Because you could do half a dozen shots rerolling hits from one side of the table to the other. It wasn't hard to pop all your enemies tanks.
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>>65738485
or should the footsloggers be in small trukk units to take an objective without being stuck doing nothing ? and maybe mek guns instead of deffkoptas ? idk
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>>65738535
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RIP
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>>65734633
would you take comissions???
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>>65738698
I just subbed to him a couple days ago
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Wot git is dis
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>>65738551
>One specific army renowned for being bullshit, does bullshit during the edition where they’re infamous for it
That doesn’t mean every army in the game had super access to easy AP1 shots because one bullshit army hadn’t it
Also weren’t the rail rifles only S6?
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>>65738323
The Battlewagon, Orks' supposedly heavy-duty transport, the best thing you could buy to transport your Warboss or Meganobz, was open-topped, so units could charge out of it

Even lascannons would pop them on 5+, far from a small chance. By the end of 7th, I was strongly considering just having a SECOND Battlewagon driving alongside so the passengers could hop into that one when their first ride inevitably got popped early
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>>65739173
what does open topped do in 8th ?
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>>65739688
Generally as a rule now it just lets models shoot from inside
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>>65735682
they can also order brood brothers.
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>>65738698
Who is this fagget and why should I care?
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>>65737823
Full on decomposing rainbow



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