>routinely being shown to actually care about the individual citizens>last living primarch in the imperiumfor over a 1000 years >while not the perfect at administration he was the only one capable of stopping the imperium from falling into its current dilapidated state>decides instead to jerk off for a millennium by himself on an obscure planet instead>only does shit when Terra is besieged by Orks almost at Krork levelWhat the fuck was his problem?
>>65144732>leaves when his Chapter needs guidance>chapter doesn't recognize its successorsWhy?
>>65144732Missed the entire point how Horus Heresy was started.As the Emperor said in Monarchia, it's the Imperium of MANNot the Imperium of AstartesNot the Holy Imperium of most benificent God Emperor of MankindIt was an Imperium made by humans, for humans.Emperor intended humans to rule over humans and Vulkan, along with other Loyal Primarchs that believed in the Emperor's vision didn't view it was their place to go against that idea.
>>65145028It wasn't made by humans tho
>>65144882>Why?marines are colourblind, dummy
>>65145028He could have at least led the armies. He didn't need to dictate their religion or administration, but he could have led important battles that would determine whether the Imperium would live or die.
>>65144732I is he black like the Nocturnians when he was made in a lab and not born on the planet?
>>65145169no, he couldnt, people would have forced him to take more responsibility and to be their leader, they wouldnt have accepted him jsut being a general
>>65145200Even the Emperor had to bow down to the Office of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.
>>65145200nocturnians gave them the niggerish flavour, allegedly. strom giants and black dragons doesn't have coal black black skin, cinder red eyes, massive bulk and retarded senses like the sallies
>>65145222i think they just tried to drop him in a volcano too many times before realizing that all those burns made him like them so they kept him
>>65144732If Vulcan is supposed to be the black Primarch why do all of his facial features look European?
>>65145353Because he's not a nigger, retard, he's a reverse-albino.
>>65145353He has reverse Michael Jacksons's disease.
>>65145353ever visit the horn of africa?
>>65145028>made by humansBut the spregs did majority of heavy lifting
I like to imagine all the other loyalist primarchs are just hiding on a planet SIPping on some prometheum and might get up if something really bad happens.>"Should we help?">"Nah Roboute has this under control">"Now the Beast, that was a fight">*Sips*
>>65144732Could any of the primarchs have taken on the prime ork that Vulcan fought?
>>65145468can you imagine how livid Guilliman would be if he learns that all his loyalist brothers were fine but decided not to help him fix the shitshow that is the Imperium
>>65145533>all his loyalist brothers were fineRuss was never fine, he might have been healthy, but definitly not fine
>>65145663>Oh the Heresy is over but dad is ultra-crippled and it's all up to us>I'd better go>L I T E R A L L Y>yiff in hell
>>65145109>>65145169>>65145407Majority of the Expeditionary fleets WERE human.Or do you think that majority of the Galaxy with hundreds of billions of stars was conquered by 18 Legions in but a span of like 200 years or so?Yes, it was the Legions who fought in the fiercest battles, but majority of battles in the Imperium HAD to be waged by human hands.
>>65145533Can you imagine how Guilliman will feel when he learns that his second founding almost destroyed the Imperium and without the Imperial Fists acting in defiance of his shitty codex and reforming to a Legion, the Beast might very well have triumphed against the Imperium.
>>65145724Man Russ is the worst
>>65146582nah, he may be a retard dog, but at least he is still loyal. Loyal like a dog. A dog that ran away thoug...
>>65147084Dogs get put down.
>>65145379This is a blue board.
>>65145757There were literally AT LEAST a trillion Imperial Guardsmen (started by Horus himself in I think Slaves to Darkness) during the Great Crusade. Somehow they’re almost never mentioned in the whole of the Horus Heresy series save for cameos in the background. Let’s say- impossibly- each legion- even the missing ones came together and added them all up with 100,000 astartes in each legion. That’s 2 million Astartes vs a trillion. The sheer magnitude of difference that makes for resources and movement in the warp and- fucking EVERYTHING.
>>65144732>while not the perfect at administration he was the only one capable of stopping the imperium from falling into its current dilapidated stateDorn explicitly let the Imperial Cult spread. So too did Guilliman presumably since he was around for a while and the Cult spread quick post-heresy. It's not like Vulkan was the only one with a thumb up his ass.Also the Imperium hadn't really become dilapidated during the War of the Beast, just complacent.
>>65144732The Emperor chose Vulkan as his living deadman switch, of a sort. Vulkan is the one who has to make the decision about whether there is no hope left for humanity. And if he decides that there isn't, it is his duty (and he does his duty) to flip that switch and send Terra and the Imperium into the night in a giant blaze of glory.The reason he avoids Terra is simple and twofold. The first part is something he says in the Beast series: he fucking hates it, and if he has to confront the quagmire and corruption that the Imperium he tried so hard to build, he'll probably lose hope. Staying away and avoiding confronting it is shitty, but it's a way to rationalise it.The second part is that he realised that Primarchs became viewed as godlike, beyond all doubt, perfect, and sainted. The religious veneration. He didn't like that (Guilliman hates it as well in the Dark Imperium books, but has to grit his teeth and bear it because he has no other choice). When Vulkan shows up in the Beast series, everybody falls over him in worship. The Imperium was made to be ruled by humans, not living gods. Look at how Guilliman is treated. He shows up, and everybody grovels. Unlike Vulkan, Guilliman is happy to use it, because he is far more ruthless and cold (like the Emperor has had to be, at that, and Guilliman also knows this, and hates is).So rather than get fucked over like Guilliman is (and lose all hope; see part 1 of Vulkan's problem), Vulkan instead stays away, roams the galaxy, and helps out the little guy, on a smaller scale.He isn't a Primarch overly suited for spearheading attempts to change things in that fashion. He's one who is there to be a rock for others to lean on. If one or two more Primarchs came back to the Imperium, Vulkan would too.>>65145169>He didn't need to dictate their religion or administrationKeksimus maximus. I repeat what I said above: look at what happened to Guilliman when he showed up. Vulkan would have gotten the same treatment.
>>65145400no but i would like to if it was free
Since the modern Imperium has defied the primarchs? Why hasn't Guilliman power grown? Shouldn't all the warp fuckery of trillions worshiping him give him a massive boost in every aspect? Or is the warp entities created from the worship separate from the actual person?
>>65148021They only deify the Primarchs in the context of demigod sons of the Emperor. So it's basically all still going to Emps.
>>65148021I would imagine because where the primarchs are worshipped they are worshipped as demigods or angels to the Emperor's capital-G God, and thus he's still the one reaping the spiritual benefits of that whether he likes it or not.
>>65145468I mean it's canon that Corax is hunting down Lorgar's bitch ass in the warp,so we know that at least he's not just sipping a martini somewhere.
>>65148021That isn't how the warp works at all. Stop getting you lore from memes.
>>65147431And? He didn't say anything NSFW, consider returning to tumblr.
>>65148645Theyve probably got a bar in the Eye of Terror the loyalist primarchs all hang out in.
>>65147431Go back to tumblr you quadruple nigger
>>65145817he would have been happy somebody used the codex as a guide box and not a religious doctrine, also it was mostly due to corruption that the beast nearly won and the deathwatch was created because large legion formations weren't effective enough
>>65151127how does it work then?
>>65144732Good is not nice.
>>65156367Are you implying he was evil or just incompetent
>>65157848He was an asshole on the inside, and tried to contain it; he also taught the Salamanders to be bros because he didn't want them to be World Eaters MK2 Nocturne-Pattern.
>>65144732Knows he can't make the sacrifices a leader of the Imperium needs to be willing to make.
>>65153092>people believe>Guilliman doesn't