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>retard anon who can't resist putting sequelbait in every OP made the thread againfuck him, talk about games
>>64574110ST does affect the games unfortunately.
>>64574110Well, I'd fuck her.
>>64574110>>64574146>doesn't talk about games
>>64574144discussion of the ST, especially as it pertains to the games, is not the same as the ST baitposting this anon does every time he's the one to make the thread
>>64574146Tuxedo conversion when???
Is this the worst design in the entire history of Star Wars? Maybe all of sci-fi, even?
>>64574110Wait, how often do people even respond to the OP? Or look at it at all instead of search for /swg/ in the catalog and go? For that matter, why would someone, if they are baiting, just use the OP and if that doesn't work go, "Shucks, foiled again!" Wouldn't they just shitpost anyway?>>64573982Have you ever wanted to punch a gungan so hard you hulk out, destroying your own oxygen line? Roidtroopers are the best.
>>64574275No and no. You're confusing how you feel about the uninspired and shamefaced reuse of an old design with a genuine distinction of bad/worst.
>>64574336What are you even saying here? Speak English.
>>64574191And every time only you throw a fit, nobody else cares about the op
New episode of Resistance. Okay, a bunch of meddling kids beat a Stormtrooper retarded. The armor really does do nothing. I feel like we're supposed to sympathize with the First Order by this point.
>>64574384So its the same problem as SW rebels?
>>64574357Seems clear to me. The problem appears to be on your end, sir. You might want to get checked out.
>>64574260right after ewoks, hopefully
>>64574402>split turbines goodcringe
>>64574395There's arguably a healthy distinction. Stormtroopers of the Empire were largely recruits, whereas the Stormtroopers of the First Order are abducted children turned into soldiers. Mind you THAT part doesn't come up very often.
>>64574110Speaking of games, I ran this list at a tourney recently and went 3-0 with it. I hated that Supernatural went up but I am absolutely loving Hater Vader. What are some other fun lists to try with a 70 point Vader?https://raithos.github.io/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v5!s!173:204,113,-1,-1:;196:123,111,12,-1:;224:125,-1:&sn=Vader%27s%20Defender&obs=
>>64574430And you're complaining about other's command of the English language? Your comprehension is weak, too. Nobody said they were good.
>>64574357His point is clear, I'm guessing you are just deeply confused.
>>64574529I'd guess he's baiting based on the responses. He really seems to want to start shit over this.
>>64574110>>64574191It's just an old PA fag.
>>64574446>>64574495>>64574529I'm talking bad/ugly in terms of appearance, which the T-70 is, not in terms of its functions in-universe, which aren't all that different from the T-65.
>>64573982Gungans suck but are still 100x better than any droopy, earth-colored yak-face thing from the ST. I'd rather watch a movie about fucking Jar Jar at this point than IX.
>>64574597>I'm talking bad/ugly in terms of appearanceThere are a ton of Uglies which can compete with the T-70 for ugliness. And of course, there's also all of Sienar's Sillies which /swg/ likes to joke about so much.
>>64574675In-universe Uglies actually have that Mad Max appeal to them. No one with taste likes the T-70.
>>64574753Uglies and the T-70 are both horrible.
>the First Order apparently had even more military power than the NR even BEFORE nuking Bosnia Prime>black chick telling war orphans "i'm sure the genocide of your people was for a valid reason"what the fuck even is resistance
>>64574380>implying /swg/ is only one personI'm not that guy and I agree, OP is a fag
>>64574357it's not a bad design, you're just butthurt.
>>64574865To be fair with that first point, the NR did make the horrible mistake of demilitarizing en masse during the interbellum.
>>64574905Butthurt at what?
My hand will forever hate me for doing this with a mouse with glitchy laser but here's a Solo version of the TIE BigGun aka TIE Experimental Mk.II
>>64574384He did slam headfirst into a railing, take ANOTHER blow to the head, and then get tazed at least once. Even with a good helmet a good shot on the first two is still gonna rattle your brain pan.
>>64574985can you make this >>64574275 look actually good
>>64574597The T-70 isn't a bad design. The s-foils could stand to be a bit thicker, in my opinion, but the design harks right back to the original concept art while maintaining a clear lineage with what we saw in the OT. If we want to talk ugly, we should look at the CF9 Crossfire. That, in my opinion, is a ship that got hit with the ugly stick all the way from the design board to the production line. It manages to look entirely ridiculous with the 's-foils in front of fuselage' design, and then makes things worse by having that fuselage resemble a truck. And don't get me started on the TIE Predator.
>>64575033I did a Stealth T-65/T-85 schematic mashup some threads back. That kinda counts, right?
>>64575084Well, the T-85 is actually decent looking. T-70 is just total shit though.
>>64575084Could use more Raptor influence.
>>64574467RAC/Vader will be hyperspace legal soon
>>64574908>apparently a fairish amount of time prior to TFA starting, Poe's still doing random shit and got called on a dumb adventure fairly recently>kaz gets hard info the FO is gathering more naval power than the entire NR alreadyIf this shit doesn't get destroyed or intercepted before the Resistance gets a hand on it they and the NR are even more retarded than we initially thought.
>>64575168How many years before TFA are the events of the Resistance cartoon?
>>64574985Imagine being in a ship hit by that meaty boi
>>64575165Is that a good list? How do you like to build RAC, in addition to Tua? I'm not as experienced with the Decimator in 2.0. Last time I flew it was in 1.0.
>>64575226According to the Wook, the Brute's guns are just regular laser cannons so it's only about as painful as being shot by an X-wing. Still not as painful of a cockslap as that one anon's quad-turbo model.
>>64575255>so it's only about as painful as being shot by an X-wingCan't be accurate, a TIE's basic guns are demonstrably that effective already.
Anyone got a deck plan for the hwk-1000?
>>64575333oops, never mind. Found one. Not perfect, but here we are for anyone else wanting to find one.
>>64575228Tua won't be in hyperspace, so excluding her.I have no idea if the list works in extended, there's much scarier stuff to fight off. In hyperspace, RAC just needs to make sure you take out Poe or Han so Vader can endgame the rest.
>>64575333This is the best I've got, but it's far from good.It feels way too wasteful of interior space/wrong scale, so I'll probably redesign it sometime.
>>64575421Ah, right. Forgot she isn't in the pack. And I see the idea. Kallus and Krennic might be the way to go then to take out high init aces.
>>64575526Kallus or 5th bro, yeah. And BT-1 is fine as a cheap minor Poe deterrent.
>>64575202Resistance starts at 6 months before TFA
>>64575255on the note of modifying ships: it'd be kind of pointless, but would bombers make decent micro-freighters with a little conversion?I mean, bombs are not exactly small payloads, so empty those out and maybe you could fill it with cargo?
>>64574865i'm genuinely baffled how we went from "the first order's shady but seem to have good intentions" to a marginal step above flat-out going SheevHitler did nothing wrong in the span of two episodes
>>64575555In that case Seventh Sister would be really fun against Poe. Surprise him by flying a lot closer than he expects and tractoring or jamming him when he goes for the double action.
>>64575632TIE Bomber hulls have been modified into shuttles in Legends, so hauling small quantities of cargo instead isn't too far-fetched.
>>64575642It almost seems that Disney, trying to market the First Order, is trying to make them more sympathetic than the Empire when the First Order is even more fanatical than the Empire at its height.
>>64575598>Resistance will be six months before TFA>Towards the end we're getting entire seasons set in a single 24 standard hour period
>>64575632It's already got shuttle and boarding craft variants, so I suppose it could work. It'd be pretty short-range without a hyperdrive, though. Probably only good for transport within a single system or between larger ships.
>>64575147T85 looks like shit dumbass.
>>64575758Way better than the T-70.
>>64575751Okay, but when are we getting Galactic Battlegrounds starfighters?
>>64575688There's nothing to be sympathetic about. We the audience know that they orchestrated a kidnapping of the governor's daughter and backstabbed some pirates for good PR over it, and Kylo apparently had some practice before ganking the Jakku village. Meanwhile Finn's sassy sister is going to bat for both them and an illegitimate government that committed multiple proven acts of mass genocide within her employer's lifetime because at least grandpa made an honest wage off of loading up the Tabanna-B. Shit's weird.
>>64575692they've said they will likely end up pushing past itthe LEGO show also pulled that off (and somehow made bosnia prime have a slight emotional impact given the characters that were witnessing it in that would actually slightly give a shit the NR just imploded.)
>>64575785How the fuck do you figure?
>>64575684>>64575718neat. Probably not specifically the TIE-bomber though, unless we're talking about some atmospheric freight hauler, and I'm sure there's plenty better things out there.>>64575838>Even Lego does better with Star Wars than Disney...
>>64575856No shitty turbines.
>>64574446Everybody I've ever heard said they thought the Suncrusher was cool even if it's a meme tier ship.
>>64575893>Dumping spare parts as chaffWhat is it with this galaxy and not equipping starfighters with real flares/chaff?
>>64575871ah yes my favorite astromech, rapist
>>64575084>Rebel scum can't target lock what they can't seeguytappingforhead.jpg
>>64575897T85 has split turbines as well you dumb blind piece of shit.
>>64575905It's an icecream cone with guns. It's a terrible design.>>64575886The TIE Shuttle isn't capable of holding much more than two people. Maybe you could squeeze in a meagre cargo hold if you stripped out all the life-support and insulation in the secondary pod. It wouldn't even be slightly efficient. Like a somehow-worse Coneship.
>>64574865Imagine pairing the "First Order is not a splinter faction and is literally the Imperial Remnant" premise with the "New Republic is the galactic government now" setting and boiling things down to Snoke being dead and having Kylo chase like four people across the galaxy to an unknown destination before episode 9 begins. At least there's Black stormtrooper and no Skywalker characters to care about anymore amirite??
>>64573948Remember when the New Republic was badass and had the greatest Navy the Galaxy ever seen?
>>64575988Is that Sienar's answer to the Missile boat, which was Cygnus' answer to the TIE Defender? >8 lasers>6 hardpoints for cannons or missiles>cloaking>space for gunner or ecm/eccm tech
>>64576032>no Skywalker characters to care aboutKylo is the only character left alive with even the possibility of doing or being anything remotely interesting, and he's half skywalker, so not really.
>>64575808I like this a lot if we get a good ship that has system as well as lock for Republic.>>64575823This is actually a purple action that makes sense to be your only action.>>64575893I love this.
>>64575796How do you get rid of strain again? Isn't it harder than getting rid of stress?
>>64576170clears on a blue maneuver, or after you defend for the first time
Mace Windu + R4-P17 + Battle Meditation + Spare Parts Canister + Clone Bros
>>64576120>Cygnus' answer to the TIE Defender>tfw you realize Cygnus encouraged Zaarin's coup attempt just so Palpatine would pay them for a super-fighter specifically designed to blow up TIEs
>>64575938They need the room for spare parts, obviously.
>>6457614110 internet bucks the final M Night Shamamladingdong twist is that Rey and Kylo are twins and Leia had a force vision about the war and that Rey would end it if she survived Darth Columbine's rampage
>>64575943Well, it IS Mace Windu's Astromech.
>>64576262That's what I've been saying more or less since before 7 came out. Honestly who gives a fuck about some girl from a dirt planet who just so happens to be a force god with zero explanation. She could have been the best actress and the role is still shit.
>>64575823>can't coordinate non limited ships >Oddball, Sinker, etc. don't count - only generics>FFG slyly suggesting clones aren't people and the vast majority of them aren't worth talking aboutlol>>64576143>purple actionI think the astromech from the Naboo Starfighter (pic related) is supposed to mitigate that a little. Especially for a lower IT Jedi Starfighter>Move, take evade just in case >circumstance means you aren't getting shot or you dodged the attack anyway>Decide to use Evade on the offense instead, slightly recouping your lossAlso keep in mind using the evade is a slight upgrade on defense, as it can change blanks as well as focus results, making it slightly more versatile than what is essentially a regenerating calculate
>>64576293Nah m8 that's Obi-Wan's
>>64576074They're so cool. They WERE so cool.
>>64575893This has got to be at least 6 points. It's goddamn generic as well. It's Countermeasures that is also Cargo Chute and can also be used for one more charge of R2 or BB-8. AT LEAST SIX. Most likely somewhere around the 10 mark.
>>64576228I can see who ever runs Cygnus and Raith Sienar having that level of personal vendetta with each other. >Sienar: Hey Emps i have this awesome TIE that has shields, hyperdrive, awesome engine and cannons>Cygnus: psst Zaarin? Here's a fat kickback if you take those Defenders and give that blue freak of a admiral a black eye.>Zaarin: whynot.jpg>Cygnus: Hey Thrawn, those Defenders giving you trouble? I have these cool new ships that go faster then the defender and will spew out more missiles than you can cram into a squadron of bombers>Sienar: teh fuck... Ok So i have this new TIE that can go INVISIBLE. No missile locks if they can't see you, right? Oh and I put a cubic buttload of lasers on it and, this and that and such. round and round it goes, when it stops nobody knows.
>>64576339>Nah m8 that's Obi-Wan's...well hello there.
>>64576015I guarantee he's shitposting.
>>64576352It's also a good bit smaller than RCC, and may have different effects (it's /probably/ just debris, but we don't know for sure)It's quite broadly applicable, though. Half the Rebel faction, and a good chunk of Scum and Resistance, on top of Republic.Do we know if Torrents have astromechs?>>64575847Who would take this over R4? What has red 3 hards or whatever?
>>64574597It's 95% just a usual X-Wing. Unless an X-Wing is the ugliest thing in Star Wars/all of Sci-Fi then it wouldn't quality as either. Given the sheer breadth of horrible designs in the EU AND nucanon comics, however, there are easily far far worse. It's not just shit artists, however, even people who can draw quite well are not always the best ship designers. It's why a lot of tracing ends up happening, not that that's something to excuse either.
>>64576074>Remember when the New Republic was badass and had the greatest Navy the Galaxy ever seen?not really, because they were never featured in anything
>>64574986You forgot them dropping him on some stairs and hitting his head on every step. Kaz even says something like, "Oh it's fine, he has a helmet!" But ze helmet. It does nothing.
>>64576339In fluff, sure, but in practice? RAPIST or his generic counterpart would work really well on enabling Mace. R4's would work as also, but we knew that already.
>>64576377In Legends, Sienar lured away a bunch of Cygnus engineers who ended up designing the Lambda. So there's definitely some animosity between them. The real question is what the CEO of Cygnus is like, seeing as his main business rival is an insane cokehead with a solar panel fetish.
>>64576321OMG MY DREAM CAME TRUE!!!!
>>64576463It's talon rolls. Also ARC-170s
>>64576463>Who would take this over R4? What has red 3 hards or whatever?Think of it more like a two shot Kanaan Jarrus ability.
>>64576524True and good point. >>64576523Basic maneuvers, so you can't make a white t-roll.
>>64576498Raith is Tony Stark, so Cygnus' CEO should be Bruce Wayne.
>>64576546Just ARCs then
>>64576074Before the dark times. Before the JJ.
>>64576560I still want to run a game where the players have to deal with a bounty hunter who's essentially just fucking Batman.
>>64576321Ooh, didn't think of using that astro to use an evade action on a Jedi. Man, that thing would be hard to hit.
>>64576560>Raith is Tony StarkBut he's not.>>64576635Batman or Batgod?
>>64576648Raith is pre-Iron Man Tony Stark. The Tony Stark that drank and smoked and injected everything imaginable while designing weapons of war
>>64574291Are there any canon examples of roidtroopers? Roided up stormtroopers that specialize in hulking the fuck out in close range assaults? If the Empire doesn't give that much of a fuck about expandable dudes, make them roid rage so hard they shrug off mortal blaster wounds to kill more rebs before succumbing, the long term health no mattering if they're expected to likely die anyway. At least it could be an interesting enemy in in a vidya game. Sorta like the Siege Johns in Prophet.
>>64576687Closest to roidtroopers would be either the Phase-0 Dark Troopers or Force-infused troopers
>>64574446>>64574597I unironically find the Sun Crusher worse than anything nucanon has come up with so far. I'm honestly pretty indifferent to the T-70, and I hate the pizzaslice much more, or any logic behind anything space combat related in TLJ, or actually, guess the plot too.
>>64574275It's just a regular X-Wing with some subtle changes. It's unoriginal as hell, yes, but the black version has gradually grown on me as it has that Fast and Furious Dodge Charger appeal, so I kind of like it.TFA's designs are uninspired, but generally not too bad. The FO ships look like they could fit in with some Imperial warlord faction, especially the half-built look of the Resurgent. Now if you're looking for actually terrible designs, look no further than that artillery Dreadnought in TLJ or the gorilla walker that sounds like it was named by some edgy high schooler (All Terrain.. MegaCaliber Six what the fuck?)
>>64576683I know what you meant, he's still not. More like what you meant mixed with Civil War Tony who made a cyborg attack dog clone of his friend and Pocket Dimension Gitmo.
>>64576683Could he become Durasteel Man?
>>64576727I will do this then if I ever end up being allowed to make something with the star war license, or run a campaign.
>>64576687You can't convince me Zuke isn't some kind of Tarkin Initiative super soldier program or maybe a gorilla shoved in armor.
>>64576812I used to be a scrawny 90 lbs weakling but then I started using Midi-Chlorians and look at me now!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hbL4-FzrDA
>>64576782Oooh shit that looks fantastic. Does it have fluid movement like the titans from Titanfall?
>>64576734Starkiller Base is pretty much every well known EU superweapon rolled into one ridiculous plot device so I find it on par with the Sun Crusher in the retardation department.
>>64576486>>64574986It's interesting how their Stormtroopers are basically human droids, now. Faulty Stormtrooper? Mind wipe and reprogram him!This makes me wonder if maybe there's some truth to the theory that Finn was actually conditioned to betray the FO, join the Resistance, in order to place an operative in Leia's camp. Someone so convincing and sympathetic because not even he knows he's secretly following orders.
>>64576862>dat subtle wilhelm scream
So it's canon that you can't see out of stormtrooper helmets and they are responsible for their poor aim.So why do they use them
>>64576782Can it use its engines as jump jets, kind of like the new WH30k Contemptor variant?
>>64576910Pretty much the only interesting direction they can go with him at this point. Maybe Rose didn't convince him to join The Cause with her stupid animal rights crusade, she just helped trip a deep programming switch. All his newly held beliefs would potentially be a lie.
>>64576896At least Starkiller Base had the courtesy of being fuck hueg, and not just some vaguely fighter sized ship that lmaos through capital ships and worse. I was a little disappointed that Starkiller Base got blown up that easily too, making it literally just another bigger Death Star that did nothing.
>>64576842Yeah, I'm going with the gorilla option.
>>64576987Starkiller Base ate a sun. I would actually buy a ram-piercer ship over that.
>>64576910>>64576979I actually how they do something like this. I actually liked Finn, I'm annoyed they're wasting the oppertunity they have to do something interesting with him being a Stormtrooper.
>>64576946Because toxic white dudes who ask questions, like you, need to leave the fandom.
>>64576987I'm curious why they never mounted that miniaturized Death Star tech on a ship.
>>64576946Just like in real life, not to get your head fragged, protection from blunt damage, built-in rebreather and air supply. Btw, mouse comic is not canon and P3 helmets provide a perfectly fine view.
>>64576946I willfully ignore any explanations for shitty Stormtrooper aim that isn't plot armour. They're uniformly too stupid to not cheapen the setting.
>>64577046>mouse comic is not canonEverything is equally canon now though unless stated otherwise.
>>64577011>>64576842Tarkin Initiative humanzee program.
>>64577046it's also referenced in Rebels tv show.
>>64577046That wasn't a comic, boyo.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XQ_98vSbDs
>>64577037The Eclipse SSD had a superlaser built into it. That and the Hutt darksabre was a vaguely miniturized one.
>>64576946Most of the other answers plus it turns a Stormtrooper into a faceless mook, which is not to be underestimated as a psychological tool. Stormtroopers all look identical in their armor, thus the reputation of the best of them, rumors of the worst they have done, become impressed upon even the weakest Stormtroopers. They are all seen as the same. Why doesn't the weakest Stormtrooper screw over the reputation of the best of the best? Because there are so goddamn many of them it really doesn't matter how many die in an operation so long as wave after wave of white armored doom crashes upon their enemies.
>>64577105Those are EU, the mini-DS comes from The Last Jedi which also gave us a super duper siege dreadnought ship. You'd think giving that a version of the Death Star would work. It doesn't need to crack a planet into bits, just the shot that hit Jedha was enough to doom the place.
>>64577098I'm looking at the thumbnail for that and I just don't want to go further.
Would a B2-RP made out of Phrik housing a Shard be OP?
>>64572871>>64574626>Is the force awakens game actually any good compared to the others?As anon said, I believe it's the same as the other beginner games, so it's designed to introduce a simplified version if the game. I'd suggest getting whichever core book (probably Edge of the Empire) looks like a game you want to play, and look at digital versions of the basic games if you want to use the intro-version tweaks. You get a lot more from that investment.Obligatory plug for the free Android dice app...>>64560498
>>64577156Also lessens the horror when they don't have to see the faces of their brothers in arms as they start getting mowed down.
>>64577277OBSESSEDWonder what the Vong did to the place while they were there...
>>64577303Terraformed it to mimic their original home world, built great temples and slave pits, and placed a world brain in the collapsed Senate Chambers to oversee the process. They might have had a tough time routing out resistance cells in the lower levels but that nothing Peace Brigade fodder and their lizardmen thralls can't fix in sufficient numbers.
>>64577095>>64577098Isn't this the same problem Luke had, Rex is used to literal "one-size fits all" gear, and he's trying to cram his old man body into new shit for recruits who aren't all genetically identical?
>>64575255does a TIE bomber like that have the power to support four light turbolasers?>>64576782why does that look more function than most of the Imperial Walkers we've already seen?Nevermind the TIE-tank.>>64576032>>64576074fuck, both of these things were beautiful.
>tfw no Zakuul gf
>>64577362I know that, I mean what they did to Sheev's private operating room/Frankenstein lab specifically.
>>64577098I still love that his reaction to Ezra shooting him was "should have had your blaster on kill just in case it wasn't us"
>>64577404No doubt it was ransacked by the NR when they took the world from Isard or maybe it was scuttled by Isard during her flight from Coruscant.
So in an interview with Fifth Trooper podcast, one of the legion devs said that his favorite list to test was "Krennic, x1 Death Troopers, x3 E-WEBs, and 6 of a unit(s) he can't talk about yet". So for one, that's a pretty good marker that more Corps units are coming, and if this list was being tested alongside krennic and death troopers, then Shoretroopers is likely, though not a guarantee.
>>64577389>does a TIE bomber like that have the power to support four light turbolasers?Anon who made that TIE here. I figured that if the TIE Bizarro can power a single light turbolaser on one regular TIE solar panel the XBOXHUEG TIE Punisher ones could probably power four on a long reload timer. Think of it as a long-range punch-and-retreat ship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AapFIhMKZZ8did they seriously include a kansei dorifto? Why isn't this riffed about more?
>>64567028>23rd Headquarters Special TroopsHow fucking sweet would this be as a game. The squad is out to spread disinfo as much as sabotage the Empire. Let them get away with some sort of inflatable Star Destroyer - once.
>>64577205Oh yes you do. Stop fighting and just let it happen...
>>64577651Isn't that pretty much the basis of the Starlancer Project the NR ran during the Vong war?https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Starlancer_Project
>>64577215Not as op as a BR-AP droid. Man, I am shuddering just thinking about it.
>>64577748Imagine the smell.
>>64577748>BR-APImagine the smell
>>64577376How anymore so than a force user in Mandalorian armor with a jetpack?
>>64576687Well.. no, the Empire just went in for cybernetics rather than roids.>Which is a bit of a shame really as the galaxy needed some angry Brock Lesnar looking motherfuckers kicking sand in the face of ewoks, long runs on the beach, wrestling criminals and standing on street corners flexing to dissuade any bad behaviour in the hood.>Then its back to the barracks, shoot up so much juice its leaking out their fucking ears and hit the showers booooooys!
>>64577739Yeah, they pimped out Y-Wings to be a mock superlaser weapons platformthe real damage was supposedly done by a modded Errant Venture
>>64575429Not making sense does not disqualify a Star Wars design.
>>64575692>>64575598>Resistance will be six months before TFA>Towards the end we're getting entire seasons set in a single 24 standard hour periodMidseason trailer showed Hux' s frothing speech, so maybe TAG at the end of season 1?At least we know there's more of the Resistance "out there" after TLJ; they've got Kaz!
Has Armada finally allowed Impies to win tournies again? I stopped/sold all of my stuff early on (after 1st Expansion?), but, I miss it. It was like a BFG game I could actually get players for.
>>64577862Oh sure, not in the slightest.But Im planning to give my party a hwk-1k in an AOR game, so Im going to completely overhaul the interior so it doesnt have so much shitty wasted space.And probably scale it up a little like the other one anon posted.
>>64577799Borktroopers would look intimidating, sure, but then you hand them a mic and it all goes out the window.https://youtu.be/wtCHdZ-yFokYou'd need to invest additional credits to make sure there are enough Heymantroopers to handle the mic work.
>>64577011Skinhead Wookiee with cyber glands feeding him roids and meth 24/7.
>>64577796A Droid can be upgraded substantially more thoroughly than armor, and a shard isn't going to be susceptible to things like force chokes, exhaustion, hunger, suffocation, and likely not as susceptible to mind tricks given their completely alien mindsBut a Mando Jedi is OP already
>>64577105Smallest was the Conqueror I think. Let’s file that under Bad Ideas.
>>64577011Is that a rocker launcher or a pneumatic battering ram slung over his shoulder?
>>64577941Or it can be made of cots, injuries, stores everywhere and shitter incidents.
>>64578019His name is Zuke which comes from Bazooka, so I'd go with the former.
>>64577928Fortunately they have the rest of Black Squadron. Maybe Wexley is getting out Mister Bones. That'll teach those first order meanies.
>>64578139I may have to dig the comic up just to see if someone carries any reloads for that thing.
>>64577945Just adjust the vox in their helmets to maximum bass, it'll cover the testes shrinkage for a while>>64577978>if the wookie is full of human growth hormones, is it human or wookie?This and other great mysteries of science that sadly where not (openly) researched in the empire, but will probably be explored in-game at some point... my pc's annoy me enough
>>64578172You don't need reloads when you got TASERKNEES!
>>64578255Seriously, he's got taser knees.
>>64578273Invisible cloak! For making Rebels quiver and quake because they think your upper body is a ghost!
>>64578273These people are PC level tryhards.
>>64578302Super gadget fanny pack! Fire resistant clothing over your armor to protect it from heat!
>>64578273Bazooka’s player has a pathological hatred of being grappled, always makes giant bearmode characters and says no homo a lot, unconvincingly.
>>64578327>but how do we protect society from their hotness?
Could a black N1 have some use, or is it too edgy?
>>64578315They should also be dead now after failing, again, to capture Luke and their own shuttle used in a breakout to steal several ships.
>>64578468pic related, also post N-1 variants.
>>64578536Different anon.That's not too bad but it doesn't look right. Maybe I'm just too used to seeing it yellow.
>>64576842>scar squadronSoulless>delta squadSoul
>>64577552What's the issue with that move? He's traveling at a pretty fast pace, cuts power, changes angle along his yaw axis, and puts power back into his engines. makes sense that the fighter would slide while it bleeds off all that extra momentum.
>>64578912I'm also low-key annoyed at them being called a squadron when they're not aircraft.
>>64578536>>64578830>>64578897Do you guys think it makes sense to use an N-1 post-Endor? Wouldn't it be like using bi-planes during WW2 by then?
>>64579036This is Star Wars.The Millenium Falcon is still going strong 30 years after the battle of Endor.Much longer, in Legends canon.
>>64576782Is that a fucking Bionicle leg?
>>64579036Their Legends stat blocks show that they're still pretty competitive in a post-Endor market. They aren't top-shelf contenders like they used to be, but they can still make an X-wing or Interceptor jockey sweat.
>>64579036Apparently they were so fucking good it made Agamar want one so badly, they resorted to piracy. It also stood its ground in the Rogue Squadron games, but I'm guessing those Naboo Fighters had upgrades.
>>64579079Such great taste!
>>64579080yes it is. looks like... 3rd gen?
>>64578387He likes to wrassle.
>>64578008I think Shards take extra damage from sonic attacks and consume some form of em radiation to “live”As for droid housing allowing upgrades, people can be upgraded as well with cybernetics. Really not much difference between a B2-RP and an Iron Knight with a jet pack desu
>>64574110I want to play Legion just for the sake of trying it, but I can’t afford FFG’s millstone business model.
>>64578165https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNe9AAB30nwR0-GR > Mister Bones
>>64579241Look at that absolute unit!
>>64579284if your last legion purchase was in august you would still have a tournament competitive army today, each individual box doesn't shift the overall meta by as much as, say, x-wing 1.0 or whatever
>>64578912Just realised that SCAR squadron is a shitty rip-off of clone force 99.
>>64579362The fact that he's fought against nearly every Jedi at one time or another, catastrophically for his part, and his memories were used to train Rowan is actually fairly clever though who knows why they'd keep bothering to rebuild their droids and certainly better than what we got with Rey. You could probably get by with a variation on a this. Instead of the memories of a single droid, a collection of heads tapped to reveal their final moments against the Jedi.Also Master Shake as a Hutt is admittedly a nice touch.
>>64576896>Build missile that can make a star go nova>Put it on a super armored platform that's hard to track and can leave the solar system hours before it dies.Sun Crusher is the most sensible superweapon the Empire ever created.
>>64579241>>64579366Looks like he skipped leg day.
>>64579381They don't even hide the fact that in-universe the squad is "inspired by" similar Clone units.
>>64579520You should see his brother.
>>64579553Looks like the badguys from the 6th Element
>>64579658>based and inkpilled
>>64579553Much better, thank you Aziz.
>>64579362Why is he so pure?
>>64579852They all were. It was Dooku who commanded them to do evil. They couldn't disobey.
>>64579936>Dooku who commanded them to do evil.Nice try, we all know the Jedi were the bad guys in the Clone Wars. Why else would Dooku break ranks with them?
>>64578536I need a red N-1 but I've never found one
>>64579998Dammit, CT-9998 "Droidbait", why couldn't you be smart like your brother, CT-9999 "Quads"? Count Dooku clearly left to pursue his own evil ambitions to be a teen heartthrob, but miscalculated due to being old and also we think a vampire or at least in the service of someone worse, like a giant flaming eyeball maybe? Anyway, that's what drove him to the Dark Side!Moron.
>>64579079holy shit it actually is kek
>>64580078If Quads was so smart, then why did he take part in Slick's plan?
>>64580145Dude was named Slick for a reason. He gave he best, most smooth handy-js in the galaxy! The lotion AND the motion!
>>64579036I HEARD YOU TALKING SHIT HANS>>64579520Never skip leg day, skipping leg day is career suicide, which is rectified by suicides.
>>64578912this but unironicallyalso fuck sevFixer and Boss were the only good ones, scorch is a fag
>>64576074You mean when they were sidelined for more Skywalker children plots.
>>64576074Yes actually, it was only last year
>>64580370Ben Skywalker didn't become relevant until after the Vong Invasion (so after the NR was dissolved).
>>64576032>we could have had an inversion of the OT where the good guys are the big government and the bad guys are the insurgency>it could have been interesting having aging Rebel heroes talking about how fucking weird it is being on the other side, having to be the big responsible ones>the NR could have been hero-antagonists, trying to get in the way of the protagonists who are trying to smuggle intel on the FO through to the Resistance>we could have had interesting discussion of how the New Republic has been subverted by corrupt officials which is why the FO has been allowed to fester, and about how they were fucking Bothans and we need to bomb Bothawui>we could have had a new burgeoning Jedi order, large enough to do good but small enough that any loss is keenly felt>a Republic ace pilot, a new-minted jedi trainee, and an ex-stormtrooper are working for the Resistance (against the orders of the Republic, the Jedi Praxeum and the Imp Remnant) and have to save the day becuase the old guard are very old>we could have had nice things
>>64580460>ignoring the children of Leia Organa-Amidala-SKYWALKER-Solo>ignoring the fact that Leia and Luke are Skywalker children
>>64576074Wait a second, weren't people pissed because Rian Johnson demanded a flat, boring ship that became the Mandator cockcannon ship? I mean this is a bit more built up via increments but still pretty uninspired.
>>64576032>>64576074Love these ships and the turbo-nerd authors and artists who later took some absolute shit designs, and turned them into something passable.Wish the Majestic and Defender got the same treatment.
WTF was wrong with Padme? Why the fuck did Anakin marry a pedo?
>>64580479Leia and her kids never took on the Skywalker name. Luke, as the original Skywalker of the franchise, is merely THE Skywalker. Anakin is the Skywalker ancestor.
>>64576032Jesus they fucked it up havn't they. It hurts so bad that people can't see that.
>>64580485No, no no, you don't understand, the Mandator IV Siege Dreadnought is bad, because Disney did it. The Nebula-Class Star Destroyer is good, because it's not Disney. Ignore the fact that it's literally the exact same thing. It's not Disney, it's Ansel Hsiao, and therefore good. You see?
>>64580548Don't fight it, anon, which Padme are YOU?
>>64578490>the only competent imperials in the entirety of nucanon are now also dumbass failuresWew Disney
>>64580548it is the dream of every man to marry a dommy mommy
>>64580576whoops, wrong picture, but relevant enough I guess
>>64576074>the greatest navy the galaxy ever seenokay.jpgRemember how only like a dozen Nebulas were built because of stupidly inflated costs and inefficient production lines?
>>64580571They were never competent. They just brought THE EDGE. Nobody can compete against THE EDGE unless they have sufficient high ground and even then probably also a lot of luck.
>>64580465This is contrary to Abrams and RLM, do not leave your position, we will come to you.
>>64576074That with the tail from the classic MC cruisers would look great. Give it something like the overall shape of the Executor.
>>64579506Well, yeah, isn't that the problem? Since when has the Empire built something SENSIBLE?
Why isn't your pilot rocking the ship captain specialisation and recreating Initial D in SPACE with a Nebulon B, /tg/? Are they just that bad?
>>64576979Would explain why he started murdering his old friends so easily.
>>64580687>Nebulon B>Gets bisected by a single Loran Spitball
>>64580681I don't know, I thought those uniforms were pretty cool. And the Tie D was a nice ship. I think the Emperor's chair was also excellent. And maybe the lambda class shuttle? Four out of an entire imperium ain't bad.
>>64577105Gawd Darksaber, that will always be my guilty pleasure book.
>>64577193Might be saving it for the last film, I guess.
>>64579036>he doesnt know
>>64580701If something goes wrong, you just have to turn up the eurobeat and the dice will co-operate.
>>64579163>>64579183Was he some kinda dictator?
>>64580553If I had to choose between the two then definitely the Nebula. It's got that Venator color scheme and it's not totally flat, albeit pretty gentle slopes. The slightly more rounded nature fits better with Rebel Alliance style. Somehow it's just really offputting in the Mandator class.Ah well, it's an opinion thing so definitely room for disagreement.
>>64580760Yeah, though it wasn't like he seemed to rule more than a primitive tribe. He's aware of the Empire so probably just found him a nice undeveloped planet, beat the shit out of the locals and became their god king. Livin' the dream.
>>64580704You know what? I'll give you those, I guess we just disagree with how much is required to not be too bad.Also, considering they scraped the Defender project, that loses some of my goodwill.
>>64580485It's not flat though.>>64580553Mouseketeer AND seething over Hsaio? Yikes.
>>64580553I agree with your point in general but the Nebula IS a better design in my opinion
>>64580854The TIE Defender had a unit cost of 300k credits and was expensive to maintain, especially as the Imperial purse shrank following Endor. Production shutdown was inevitable.
>>64579362Unironically better than Rebels.
>>64580078Check my CT, brother.
>>64580548I doubt Ancapistan (Tatooine) even has an age of consent. And Naboo elected a 14 year old head of state.
>>64580896I'm primarily talking pre-Endor, it is a fair enough concession after. It's worse in canon where they decided to halt the project after a single bloody sabotaged facility
>>64580864>Mouseketeeroh come on, there exists a middleground between "unironically loves everything Disney" and "has made hating DisneyWars their new hobby." you can make fun of the latter without being the former, and vise versa.t. someone who thinks the ST is a disappointment but that you fags take this shit way too personally
>>64574275it's just lazy, like 99% of TFA and TLJ
>>64580980The defender is also a much better ship in canon. If that facility wasn't destroyed the Empire would have won the war
>>64579183>>64579163Man they're really fucking generic. The smarmy squad leader with big brute backup is done to death.
>>64578490So was Vader tossing the saber or floating it?
>>64580681Stormtrooper armor in EU is really, really good. When the Empire fragmented and the NR went after some of the smaller warlords, they added a lot of Imperial tech to their arsenal simply because it was better.
>>64581085>Stormtrooper armor in EU is really, really good.So the EU was contradicting the original trilogy?
>>64580599some of those star destroyers look funny
>>64581085Fret not, anon, for even though it is shit in the new canon pirate warlords still go gaga over it.
>>64581118It's good in the sense that it frequently renders otherwise fatal blaster wounds nonfatal, is highly resistant to environmental wear and tear, and comes with a lot of bells and whistles. Getting shot is still going to knock the wearer out of the fight. Nothing that really contradicts the OT.
>>64581118When didn't it?
>>64581150Wasn't it also pretty good against bullets such? Although technically that does contradict what happens with the Ewoks...
>>64581085To be fair, it's hard for "something" to be worse than "nothing".
>>64581118Not that guy but it seems to be super versatile, perfectly usable on space stations like the Death Star, deserts like Tatooine, a few modifications and it works on Hoth, it works in forests like Endor’s forest moon, etc. For a space empire, this is a major logistics advantage.
>>64581216>it works in forests like Endor’s forest moonUntil a teddy bear hits you with a rock.
>>64581234Yes, weighty objects to the head tend to fuck a person up.
>>64581211It's resistant to bullets and shrapnel in Legends, yes. The Ewoks were not running around with MP5s and AKs. A man wearing the best bullet-resistant infantry armor today may still suffer from some bleeding and blunt force trauma when he is speared, stoned, and clubbed instead of shot at, especially when the enemy aims for the weak points where the bullet-resistant plate does not cover.
>>64581303Yeah, fair enough.
>>64581303Also, to go full RotJ apologist, we don't actually see the Ewoks succeed at much man-to-bear. We see stormtroopers get knocked down, but that's it. The camera never lingers long enough to confirm that any of them actually die from spears or rocks.Considering the flow of the battle, I'd say it's entirely reasonable that the Ewoks were only effective in surprising the Imperials and causing a distraction, and not much more. Once the Imperials get their act together we see it turn into a complete slaughter (until Chewie steals an AT-ST.)
>>64581234>>64581376Not to mention the Ewoks are a bad argument because we know, verifiably, on record, they didn't come into being because of actual lore and background on Imperial armor and its effectiveness or lack thereof, but specifically to promote merchandising. Even then, the Ewoks mainly used swarm tactics and were instructed to aim their spears at the armor's joints. Ask a middle-ages crusading knight in full plate how effective it is when 20 Arabic tribesmen with rocks and spears are dogpiling him.>>64581150>>64581211I
>>64581415I'm still hoping that wookies are an artificial species formed when a bunch of Ewoks merge together.
>>64581438>but specifically to promote merchandisingdon't you have a terrarium full of thousands of children's toys to pour quicklime into
>>64581216Works in hard vac too, vis. ANH.
>>64580485>>64580553>>64580864But it's not flat? It's smoother but has the canted angles on the upper hull, and the terraces. It seems a little low on guns from a distance but can still hide plenty in the greeble.
>>64579284>I want to play Legion just for the sake of trying it, but I can’t afford FFG’s millstone business model.Get your friends to try it with printed out paper tokens of the figs.
>>64581468https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bf2tBFfMLMkFor the uninitiated.
>>64581211>>64581234Full helmets don't really protect you from concussions and whiplash from getting hit in the head with large rocks, and bulletproof vests aren't much good for stopping people from stabbing you in the joints until you bleed out
So how hard DID the empire come down on Force Sensitives? Sure, they were either killed or abducted to become hunting dogs, but what about their families? Root and branch? Depends on their station?
>>64581552>>64580864You can quibble but yeah, that's pretty damn flat. The design, however marginally sloped, and sure the anon who first pointed it out mentioned that it has some incremental tiers, it's still, well, flat. I don't think anyone is demanding a tower quite like a regular ISD, but even the Mon Cal cruiser is far more built up. Even the cursed Mandator has a bridge structure, or is that a spoiler? Jesus that thing is butt ugly even when you discount the fact it flies around with its floppy dongus hanging out.And I say all of that as the anon here >>64580791 . I'll take it, but I'm not going to pretend it isn't still pretty flat and (using the thread's new favorite word) uninspired.
>>64581834Speaking of the pizza's bridge, why is it the entire width of the hull? What's even up there that they need all that space?
>>64581756Not very. It's practically impossible to find every single Force sensitive in the galaxy toi recruit/imprison/kill. While open Jedi or those who actively use Force abilities would attract attention, especially Palpatine's innate ability to sense Force users, they'd most likely be ignored. A tiny percentage of the galactic population is Force sensitive, but that's speaking relatively - dozens of millions of people, and the vast majority have no idea about it. Force sensitivity is arguably not that big of a deal unless one learns to use it, and even then it's not likely to draw attention unless they're trying to get it. Of course actively trying to become a Jedi/Sith/other cult will get the hammer brought down, or get you recruited for special duties if need be (EU had force-sens stormtroopers for example).
>>64581881You expect a reasonable design or efficient structure, and to subvert that you get neither.
>>64581881I'm going to go with it being a spoiler. Someone decided, wow, this thing needs something cool and sadly that's the best they could come up with.
>>64581881Thick crust for easier handholds.
>>64581834>all mon cal craft look like they have late stage super cancer
>>64581912I think it's clear who that someone was.
>>64581912Which is really just sad.They could've typed 'fan made star destroyers# into google and just picked the three coolest one and masehd them togethe. Guaranteed to look mean, cool and still end up aas a variation on the white wedge in space.Instaed they went 'creative' and 'original'.
>>64581756I can imagine families would be put on a monitor list in case they pop out another little bastard as future recruitment material for the Inquisitorius/Hands/Prophets, etc.
I am positively convinced the relentless ire for the FO dreadnought is spurred purely by contrarianism and attempts to "fit in" on 4chan, because every single fucking complaint is the exact same banal meaningless bullshit
>>64581950>prophetsNah, shitty noncanon.
Does anyone else want the next movie to be the adventures of Darth Maul and Qi'ra as they fly through the galaxy, murdering other crime lords, making witty quips, and maybe a some really awkward flirting from Maul that is roundly ignored?
>>64581968>hurr hurr disliking something means ur a contrarian trollyes there's no such things as people who like rlm or people who don't like the prequels or people who don't like the rebellion or people who don't like disney or people who don't like ewoksit's all just trollingyea
>>64581881>Speaking of the pizza's bridge, why is it the entire width of the hull? What's even up there that they need all that space?They need it for downforce so the slice doesn't flip up into their forward observation screens.
>>64581950>prophetsDidn't they last like two years before Palps got pissed at them and they all had to run the hell awy from Dromund Kaas?
>>64582002I'm pretty sure "Dark side prophets" came from the retardotrash Jedi Prince.
>>64580737>not a pure blood The shit tastes is strong in this one
>>64581987>More Darth MaulNo. Put the character to rest already and let new talent rise up the card, Vince. It's a big galaxy. Don't repeat the mistake Legends did and reuse the same small cast of characters for every single story.
>>64581991thank you for proving my point
>>64582022>not a qt3.14 sephi
>>64582045>Not a seiba
>>64582030Are you telling me that between a two hour long sith lord sitcom and another TLJ, you'd take another TLJ?
>>64581934I never really liked the pimples. Okay it sort of looks more like something you'd find under the ocean that way? Whatever, they look better in long shots and that's really all that counts.>>64581943CURSE YOU, JENKINS! IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FLAT! YOU RUINED THE WHOLE FUCKING MOVIE!
>>64581968You're demanding an answer to 2+2 that isn't 4 and get mad when that doesn't happen.
>>64582031If you want a hugbox go remake /swco/
>>64582077Threw off the feng shui, causing a domino effect that ruined TLJ?
>>64582062False dichotomy. I think more Maul shit and TLJ 2.0 are equally bad.
>>64582100JENKIIIIINS! Seriously, look at that smug sonnovabitch!
>>64582086I think /co/ wants no part of them and even /trash/ said no thanks.
>>64582119Not at all false, but okay, let's move that away. Let's assume it isn't maul - it's just a Star Wars slice of life. Maybe with characters we recognise. Maybe we don't. Pick an FFG game line, and make that into a movie. The whacky adventures of Captain Shitheel and his merry men.
>>64582173So full length versions of those youtube shorts.
>>64581976Wait, who was making me scan everything in TIE Fighter? Don't tell me it was a hallucination, that was a lot of freighters.
>>64582086/swco/ had virtually identical opinions to this place, the only difference was nsfw spam and unfunny forced memesoh wait...
Dryden Vos - Pau'un hybrid?
>>64581976>i dont like it so its not canon
>>64582304He's near-human, but his species name hasn't been given. He's not a hybrid, though, and definitely not Pau'an in any way.
>>64582307admittedly this is how I treated the EU