Homolust edition>Previous thread>>64564762>Official AoS websiteageofsigmar.com/>Updated Forgeworld Compendiumshttps://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Monstrous-Arcanum-2018>Resourcespastebin.com/UVKnsh7d (embed)>AoS Novels, Battletome PDF and Audiobooksmega.nz/#F!q84BWKiL!CN6kasdx1Pyshfga_UzuEQmega.nz/#F!6EZEHQqJ!gdDBPH48LYPGDccS4YaeWAmega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg>Rulebook of Nightvaultmega.nz/#!PsZX3C5A!8Eq41d8y3ozTdhexxDIbzn33cOK7QKchiVpQIOCLt9k>Toolswarhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/repl.it/repls/FrivolousBelovedEmperorpenguinnofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psd>Thread QuestionWhat do you hope Warcry will be?
>>64572811You're a faget. He's a pretty good interviewer.
what will the next battletome be`?
>>64573003Khorne. We already know this
>>64572931>other rats seething at the new warpfire being bad on stormfiends>thanquol being high iq just takes 4 of them on his ogre bro and mows everyone down with 200 dice
I think the bow elf is pretty cute.
>>64572931>What do you hope Warcry will be?A proper AoS Kill Team
>>64572931What’s the deal with these Fyreslayers, I like their shield, are they any good? I like them enough to want to do a small army of them. What unit are they, and does the spurs have shields in it or is it like only 3 out of 10 models can be equipped with the shield?
>>64573046That's my gf
>>64573046I like weapons, animals and that bottom of thorn dude. Rest is meh and those horns are stupid.
>>64573046What you want to see in a Sylvaneth 2nd wave anons?
>>64573046GW finally can into attractive female faces.
Here's your Chaos War Mammoth bro
>>64573046>>64573165>>64573271Stop and go away.
>>64572931>What do you HOPE Warcry will be?A proper skirmish supplement, unlike that lazy shit we got for two fucking times. >What do you THINK Warcry will be?Some boring not!Necromunda bullshit for Chaos only.Honestly, I really want to be wrong here. Hope GW will surprise us and we will get a well made skirmish supplement that works as good as Kill Team.
>>64573293That's fucking dope
>>64573293what happened to its legs?
>>64573400Dali happened m8
>>64573400It belongs to Chaos Lord Dali.
>In a new bit of lore that I really liked it talks about how the Flesh-eater Courts work with the system of underworlds within the Mortal Realms. Since they saw themselves as being right and just, and probably had their own vision of an afterlife in their own deluded minds that was far removed from their horrible existence, when they died they went to the ideal afterlife as they saw themselves. This means that though in life they may have been a horrible ghoul that only caused suffering, in death they would pass into an afterlife as a normal human and receive all of the rewards of leading a perfect life. It's a wonderful little twist that really fits their deluded minds. >Since the Necroquake though all of this has changed. Now they pass into their afterlives as a horrible, cannibalistic geist who hunts down and devours the other frightened inhabitants of their afterlife.Fucking hell FEC cant catch a break
>They also see the Nighthaunt hordes as benevolent forces. For instance, if a Nighthaunt procession passes through a Flesh-eater kingdom, they will often kill all around it, but have no interest in the mortal remains, which the leave behind. Since this would be a fantastic feast for the Flesh-eaters, they see the Nighthaunts as peasants from a neighboring kingdom who have come to harvest all of their fields for them and present them with a bounteous gift. They also see Lady Olynder as a beacon of hope and a savior from their gods sent to lead them to greatness.
>The Morgaunt Courts are the ones we see in most of the GW pictures. They're the pallid ghouls with the red hands. In life they were noble kingdoms within Shyish who protected the living and lived alongside the dead in peace. After the Chaos invasions laid low their empires, they were reborn as a horrible Flesh-eater Court. They now spread across the Mortal Realms, seeing Nagash as their one true god.
>>64573078Vulkite berserkers can be equipped with shields. No limits
>>64573293I can dig it
>The Hollowmourne court are the greenish ones we've seen. They hail from Chamon, and were an empire of crusading knights who sought to recover and protect precious relics. Now in their deranged state they attempt to continue this quest, their numbers flush with massive Crypt Horrors.>The Blisterskin were an empire of fervent sun worshippers from Aqshy. Now as a Flesh-eater Court they still see the sun as being holy and bask in its warmth, their skin burnt and flaking. The most worthy of them have even grown wings to be able to be closer to their god. >Gristlegore hails from Ghur, and once lived in peace with the beasts of the land. Now they ride to war a top these giant undead monsters, an army of champions and beasts.
>>64573554>blah blah afterlife shenanigansI'm all for new AoS lore but honestly - good old Warp would work better here. The whole "everyone have their own pocket underworlds in the Nagash backyard" is just meh.
>>64573609>empire of crusading knights who sought to recover and protect precious relicsHmm.png>Now they ride to war a top these giant undead monsters, an army of champions and beasts.And we got no new models for this? Come on GW.
Half of this lore just sounds like mumbled garbage.
>>64573681Welcome to the fun of battletomes, where they tell you about the more interesting versions of armies and instead just sell you the same shit. >>64573637Not to mention it gets nonsensical with most of them, since they're supposedly all reborn in Shyish yet also not because they have their own long-reaching empires out in the realms.
>>64573725Souls are go to Shyish, Anon. Ghouls are living, besides the Kings.
>>64573682It sounds like lore of literally every any book ever made for any GW game. So small snippets of lore for the general faction and thr playable characters and units. If you want more read the novels. It's always been like this.
>>64573575>Also, on her last visit, Lady Olynder handed out grails to all her favorite ghouls.FUCK.
Hey /aosg/ can anyone suggest some decent skin tones for my nurgle daemons i'm starting tomorrow? I'm trying to lean away from the usual green.
>>64573769No, they're dead which makes them alive.>his means that though in life they may have been a horrible ghoul that only caused suffering, in death they would pass into an afterlife as a normal human and receive all of the rewards of leading a perfect life. They die, their souls to go Shyish, and then they turn into normal people. Only the pesky Necroquake now turns them into spoopy monster-boys instead. Which also hilariously makes that "OMG SO NEAT" twist kinda retarded since for the foreseeable future, it'll just be horrible cannibals dying and getting reborn as horrible cannibals.
>>64573245Less of the revenant aesthetic
>>64573832Why are you acting like it's supposed to be a twist? The necroquake ruined their chance to be human again, that's all.
>>64573871...I'm not, you shitbrained baboon. They are. Read the fucking source of the quote.>It's a wonderful little twist that really fits their deluded minds.
>>64573823What about purple or yellow?
>>64573823i would look up some corpse stuff. flesh can turn all kinds of colors. maybe a pale blue
>>64573929Are you retarded?
>>64573929Why you p*les are so fucking stupid?
>>64574007>>64573971>can't resist resorting to ad homsSeething.
>>64573974>nukes>guns>power armor>merging magic and tech>written language>telephone>blowing up the moonthey're not contempt but they are intelligent
>>64574034There's literally one website where official news get posted, which you can easily check, but instead you come here and post "only pretending to be retarded"
>>64574034>too lazy and retarded to check the WarCom on his own>kurwa why are you calling me a lazy retardAbsolute state of doglacks.
anyone know what the RAT magic lores are and what they have in them?
>>64574055you mean competent?
hows this? dont know what to spend the last 100pts onHeroes:Screaming Bell 200Arch-warlock 160Warlock-Engineer 100Battleline:3 Stormfiends; warpfire projectors, ratling cannons, shock-gauntlets 2603 Stormfiends; warpfire projectors, ratling cannons, shock-gauntlets 26040 clanrats; rusty spears 20040 clanrats; rusty spears 200Units:Warp Lightning Cannon 180Warp Lightning Cannon 180Doomwheel 160
>>64574093I didn't catch them but if you just go stomach the GMG video I know it's hard they did a like hour long thing going over almost everything in the book as far as traits/spells/units/points/battalions goes.
>>64573293Huh, I remember a guy experimenting with this idea, but that guy used a porcelain elephant. It does have that nice Salvador Dali touch, but I fucking hate the Azyrite Ruins on top.
>>64573594Wait, so there are only 5 shields in the box set? Goddamnit
>>64574159where is your third battleline
>>64573293I just saw that on my feed too. He said he isn't gonna use it to play which makes sense considering the base it's on is like half the real size. But it's a neat idea for sure
>>64574235Huh? No, there are 10 since its 10 models in a vulkite pack
>>64573823This here. It's a great idea imo because it highlights that Plaguebearers are not humans that are rotting away but supernatural creatures that just look and smell as if they do.If that doesn't appeal, do normal skin colour but give all the limbs a heavy purple wash. If you look closely at the hands of Plaguebearers you'll notice that they look cramped up. And I kind of like the idea that Plaguebearers are in constant pain, their muscles tensed to breaking point and they lurch forward through barely controlled muscle spasms.
>>64574331they do, its skryre allegiance, grey seers and clanrats dont break allegiance
>the absolute state of skryrefagsoh no no no no
>>64573293to Balmora it is then
>>64574387>buy 3rd party bits so you can maximum cheese your opponents with 9d3 mortal wound spam per unit>wonder why it got changed and cry, making you buy shit actually from GWHahaha btfo
>>64574387Kinda right though, modelling restrictions suck now.
>>64574387What happened? something with stormvermin yeah?
>>64574387>I am angry because I either have to chop up my models or buy more to have valid unitsAw, did the poor poor Skaven player convert all his Stormfiends to use Warpfire Throwers knowing full well they would get a limit put on them like all fucking special weapon options eventually did?God, Skryrefags are the worst.
>>64574387>>64574431>modelling restrictions suck now.What is magnetizing: the post
>>64574458storm fiends can't take double weapons in the squad anymore. Basically what you get in the box is how you build them, 1 of each weapon
>>64574458fuck I meant the storm fiend
Hey guys, just getting into idoneth deepkin, got the battleforce for myself as a late christmas present, but I have no idea how to paint them. I don't want to go with the studio scheme. I think it looks kind of boring, especially on the thrallsCould you guys post cool color schemes for deepkin? Preferably nothing super technical or requiring an airbrush. I don't own one and I'm a pretty mediocre painter
>>64574458Stormfiends come with six different weapons. Each rat in the box has a choice of two. One rat can have either Warpfire Throwers or Poison Wind Mortars, one can have Ratlings or Drills and one can have Doomflayers or Shock Gauntlets.Before now, you could mix and match weapons as you wanted so people converted full units of Warpfire Throwers but now they're forced to build their units the way they come in the box like all fucking other kits like that.
Anybody know if in the new battletome there are skaven slaves?Or are they still in the compendium?
>>64574536>Or are they still in the compendium?Was any compendium unit moved from compendium to a book since the launch of AoS? I don't think so but I might be wrong.
>>64574468>>64574516>free to build how you like for years>changes suddenlySucks dude. Honestly.
>Bought forth Aleguzzler How bad is capping my behemoth limit with them?
>>64574458Skavenfags are mad since GW made the rules for stormfiend special weapons in line with the rules for literally every other model with special weapons
>>64574567>free to build how you like for yearsNani? WYSIWYG was a thing on all competitive events since the times of fucking dinosaurs.
>>64574567Sure, but the writing was on the wall since 2016, so anyone who built them like that after GHB2016 knew full-well what was going to happen. It's one of the main reasons people didn't want a Skaven Battletome. Because they were afraid of precisely this.
>>64574557I love the fat one
>>64574586>fartlegsAt least put the rider bodies on thrall legs.>>64574557That weapon conversion and pose looks fucking rad. Too bad I already used up both of the axes this was made from.
>>64574654>putting thrall bodies on ridersjesus christ
>>64574295Oh thank god, I only saw 5 shown on the blister pack, thanks anon.
>>64574678>blind elves on blind eels
>>64574387Why does TGA have so many WAACfags? it's like the opposite of reddit, nobody posts models and only talk about how competitive their armies are
>>64574736It's just like /aosg/ without the memes and lewds
>>64574510you considered using the nighthaunt technical paints to make them look deep sea?
>>64574567Ratfags have no one to blame but themselves. Before I got into Warhammer for the very first time like 5 years ago I've done some research. I've checked how GW handles their releases, what's the impact of new editions on people collections etc. It was clear to me that I had to either magnetize all my shit or cry every fucking day since GW is messing with the rules every 24 hours. If one is too lazy to magnetize his shit then there is only one person to put the blame on.
>>64574747Every time I post my models I get called an attention whore by this cunt:>>64570610>>64571673
>post underrated units I think these guys are tough as fuck and economical.
>>64574843>giving a single fuck about p*lishpostersIt's time to stop being insecure Anon.
>>64574848>economical.That is a very generous way of putting it.
>>64573575>BFFs with nighthaunt>Can't be allies What did GW mean by this?
Does anyone know if the mortar team is in the skaven tome or if its been removed due to being exclusive to spire of dawn?
>>64574902How do you mean? A 40 man horde of battleshock resistant -1 rend 5/5 armor save sitting still and a banner that gives halved battleshock results and a +5 spell negate is not economical?
>>64574843ignore that retard. It's probably ben upset that models that aren't his thicc highlighted gitz are getting (You)'s. No wonder he switched to r*ddit where people give 200 upvotes for any dogshit model posted there
>>64574484That's standard now for GW. They've gutted build options if the kit doesn't come with them already.
>>64574940Anyone that shits on someone else's paint job without cause is a cunt in my book.
>>64574916That Ghouls aren't even fit to lick my ethereal cunt
>>64574940>No wonder he switched to r*dditHe is posting on plebbit for like 4 years now tho and Gitz are like his 4th army now I believe?
>>64573554>Glorius knights riding to battle with burning standards saving their people from their twisted kin and protecting the rest of the afterlife FuckingRadical
>>6457499690% sure its the same faggot every time
>>64575121I fear the "waaah stop posting models in a wargame thread" cunt and the ">drybrushing skin" cunt are two different people.
When is the warscroll builder being updated? I want to start experimenting with skaven lists
>>64574843Oh him. He’s just jelly for shelly.
Are armies that can't summon unplayable?
>>64575276No? Summoning isn't even that good outside LoN
>>64575276Kek, no - they are perfectly fine in most cases. Is this some kind of new /40kg/ meme because they are salty about their shitty daemon summoning rules?
Anyone been playing the updated skirmish rules in White Dwarf? I primarily played skirmish before with a realms-of-chaos-esque force of unique guys and found it pretty enjoyable, and was wondering if anyone had tried the newer version. Also, anyone played it with Chaos specifically? I'd love to hear what's been working for you.
>>64575276No>IDKCan’t summon>SCECan’t summon>skavenCan’t summon (except the dreaded 13th spell)>DoKCan’t summonThese are all good and playable armies
>>64575276Slaanesh has the most fun way to summon. But it is not the best army. It seems fairly balanced.
>>64575340>Anyone been playing the updated skirmish rules in White Dwarf? Yes and I find them terrible. They took a mediocre Skirmish ruleset and mutilated it even more. You either play Skirmish with the Balancing Rules or just go full Hinterlands.
>>64574407>We make a special trip, just for you, same low price
>>64575410Is hinterlands any good?
>>64575305>>64575320>>64575350>>64575370Thanks folks. Some fag in the 40K general is trying to claim armies in AoS that can't summon are unplayable so I thought I'd just ask you lot if it was true. 40kfags complain about enough shit already without making things up.
>>64575410While on the topic, I've heard that Song of Blades and Heroes is supposed to be a fantastic skirmish ruleset. Any truth to that?
>>64575410Ah, I've not fully gone through them. What did they change for the worse?
>>64575448Oh wow, someone on /tg/ is posting about something they have no clue about? Unprecedented!
>>6457544840k players still have PTSD from the Daemonology discipline in 7th Edition where a moderately powerful Sorcerer could summon himself a bodyguard of Pink Horrors who would then proceed to summon more Pink Horrors until they reached critical mass and could start summoning really scary stuff.That's why 40k's summoning rules are currently so gutted and why they're so sensitive about the topic.
You guys think people will care if I put my Ogroid on a 60mm base instead of his usual 50mm base?Want to make him a part-time Daemon Prince.
>>64575448retards talking about mechanics of games they don't play lmao
Yesterday there was some discussion talking about chaos warriors, marks and god equivalents and that they should be a little stronger. For fun I sat down and tried to make something of that. What would you think of these changes and ideas.
>>64575439I find it decent. Can't think about any better skirmish ruleset for AoS at this point.>>64575451>Song of Blades and HeroesNever heard about this one. Have a pdf to share? I'm not a big fan of generic rulesets not tied to any particular game system but I don't mind being surprised tho.>>64575477Remember how unbalanced the first skirmish ruleset was with all those stupid shit like Plague monk nuke book etc? Now it's even worse since you can technically field anything you want.>>64575448>40kfags complain about enough shit already without making things up.They are playing a worse version of 1st edition AoS. The best part is, it's still a batter ruleset than the 7th edition of 40k. Being a 40k player is suffering compared to AoS.>t. playing chaos in both systems and brewing up a HH traitor army as well.
>>64575546I like the current CW desu. All they need is a fucking rend on EVERY weapon. They should be an anvil but a little bit more killy. What really needs to be upgraded are Knights - they should be a fucking hammer of StD.
>>64575590Fair. I figured the additional cost for command would offset that slightly. I always found the book interesting to use, since I only had the one nurgle model.
>>64573245More bugs so I can claim them for Nurgle
>>64575340>wanted this >got gay arab bodybuilders
>>64575477who are these mages supposed to be?
>>64575707I mean... I used that kit too to make some swole elves.
Friends, if your army is currently tomeless, but you can reasonably expect an update, what is ONE model/unit you would like to see added?Also, what kind of themes do you think possible new armies may have?
>>64575629The old Skirmish is not terrible but it needs balancing rules:>A single model can't attack or target with ability more than 3 models in any phase>You can't deal more than 3MW per turn. Every extra MW is just a normal W with R- and 1D>Heroes cost 50% less but they also have 50% less woundsBam, Skirmish is now a 27 times better game.
>>64575738Just Realm of Chaos era models and conversions to represent my Chaos Warriors.
>>64575707Those are the Tzeentch marauders basically, not Tzeentch warriors. While Tzaangors are great, I would also like to see a more warrior-mage unit for Tzeentch, clad in plate etc.Did my template for how I could see them work here>>64575546
>>64575707>low test manlet fattie jealous of the superior combination of intellect AND physical perfectionI bet you play Nurgle, too.
>>64575756Yeah, those from Hinterlands make sense. I faced a Branchwych in one game, after reading her spell I stayed well clear, since it's nuts in skirmish.
finally finished the last 20 of my hoppers!I love the models, but I feel painting 30 of them in a row might have been a bit much for one go.
I've got three stormfiends with ratling guns and three stormfiends with warpfire throwers.But I'm getting another three with Carrion Empire I can equip with CCW and mix them in, so I'm not that miffed about it.I am however miffed about the exclusion of the mortar weapon team. They did not want to go through the trouble of making a new mold for the two plastic weapon teams they've had for quite a while, okay. But would it have been so hard to just put the damn warscroll into the battletome?
I felt all of my hobbying problems could be fixed by adding yet more troggs.
>>64575832>I am however miffed about the exclusion of the mortar weapon team.They squatted the mortar team? Please tell me you are joking.
>>64575891Well, you certainly can't buy a model off the store and it's not included in the skaventide section of the AoS app.
>>64574996are they shitting on the paint job or the fact that 3 people post the same pics of their models every thread>the goblin redditor>my-first-drybrush nurgle >not Black Templars SCE I'm glad people like this get called out, they get old real fast
>>64575920I don't see you contributing anything but butthurt.
>>64575477who's that bone swordsman?
>>64575820Very good anon smooth and good looking
>>64575590>Never heard about this one. Have a pdf to share?I was kind of asking because people keep saying it's good but nobody seems willing to upload one, so no, sorry. Supposedly it's a very adaptable skirmish system that allegedly works well with AoS models.
>>64575920You know you dont have to act on every autistic impulse in your brain right? You can ignore stuff. People are proud of their models.
>>64576034It's a 1989-or so GW mini, with a Blightlord helmet.
>>64574916I wonder why, except perhaps that certain combos might be a bit wack. Ironically, Banshees + FEC Morale attack stuff would be kinda nasty.
>>64575920The nurgle guy posts the same fucking pictures and its annoyingBen usually posts the same photoBlacktemplarcast guy doesnt post the same photo twice. You can check for yourself with image search - he posts a different once every few days. I dont see how that could be upsetting
>>64572931Is character in the OP supposed to be very sexy?
>>64575820Any tips for painting them?
>>64576144Not unless you're a flaming faggot.
>>64576144To someone who's into Bara and backstabbing bald cunts, Mannfredo is a fucking wet dream.
>>64575891yep they squatted it, yet they brought back the potatofag metal warpfire thrower team to the GW store. The fuck?
>>64576111>Ben usually posts the same photoDoes he? I see him posting wips but once he is done he just starts a new unit.
>>64576180The Warpfire Thrower has a model. The Poison Wind Mortar is only available in an OOP box set. It was inevitable really.
>>64576180Do we have a clear screenshot of battletome units list? Even if it's missing on the app it might be just a GW's fuck up.
>>64576180Because the warpfire team is a seperate model, but the poison wind mortar was only available as part of a multi-kit. It's the same reason that you can't buy about 60% of Swifthawk.
>>64575546No, I like having the ability to use normal CW as anvil to my other Khorne hammers. Honestly, they should just be equivalent to Liberators mostly.
>>64576020yeah maybe I should spam a photo until you get the point>>64576093>You know you don't have to act on every autistic impulse in your brain right?The irony; try telling that to these Insta-fags that can't stop uploading
>>64576250Please do, to prove you actually play this game.
>>64576278Are those shackles?
>>64576048Thanks!>>64576150I painted the entire model assembled, and the only big problem I had was painting the inside of the mouth, which I am honestly unsure of how to do easilly. I just made sure to paint that part first and clean up after.
>>64576182For a while he kept posting the same squigsI dont really mind but it seems to annoy an autistic person in this thread
>>64576077It's in here https://mega.nz/#F!zSYW0I4a!vXh8-UPi_tWXpJES_-p4zg!6fIS1bAR
>>64576330>it seems to annoy an autistic person in this threadAutists will always find a reason to shit the thread unless banned. Jews, Niggers, Shaerks, pics of models, too dark aelves, etc. This is how we live in this thread. I'm not happy about this but mods hate AoS and they are happy to see those threads being flooded with shitposting.
>>64574510>gloss black-blue skin>shell-bone armour and weapons
>>64576395>/awg/I will never forget how /awg/ autists went full bakka on a legit MESBG leaker that shared with them like 80% of the upcoming release.
>Novel about a Stormcast recurring characterIt's honestly such a cop out if all these characters don't eventually fall to losing their personalities across reforgings.
>>64576395You have my most heartfelt gratitude, anon. This made my day.
>>64576250They post content. You are just a crybaby bitch taking up post count.
>>64576557We don't need spoops. We have better waifus.
>>64575546I like it. though the no respite ability is strictly a worse version than the slaanesh one, there's no point in taking it. Maybe it should change their extra hits on a 5+ or even 4+ instead?
The new khorne book can't get here faster.
>>64573046That tentacle lady is weird.
>>64576638It shouldn't come at all. They have a book.
>>64576638I'm terrified they're going to fuck it up somehow. The FAQ already obliterated Bloodletters. I'm pretty sure they're going to put the 'unmodified 6's' clause onto everything, thus nerfing one of our best tools (Bloodthirster of Insensate Rage /w Ghyrstrike and Killing Frenzy) while not giving us anything to make up for it.
>>64576249The problem is that liberators are shit when sequitors exist and even then, they have special weapons so they kill better than chaos warriors. Also, Stormcasts have tons of other units and heroes to buff and support liberators, giving them +1 to the armour save, healing them, judicators dealing ranged damage from behind... warriors need to be the aggresive, melee equivalent to liberators to compensate for the versatilty. If not, they'll be just worse.>>64575625They need rend, but the damage 2 would make them the scary melee murderbeasts they are supposed to be. The army has no range other than marauder's javelins, let them at least be good at melee.
>>64576639I liked vines-for-legs better when they weren't official.
Ratbro here, dont have the book yet I was looking for some advice. I have 80 clanrats, 20 monks and 20 nightrunners (I normally use 10 as gutter runners instead since the nightrunners by themselves are kinda bad). I also have a couple warlords, grey seers, an engineer, some skryre machines and a screaming bell.I may have some hobby income next month and am wondering between getting a Verminlord, or getting the Pestilens starter box - plan would be to buff my monks to 40 (or keep them distinct to use the batallion) and build the catapult as a second cannon.What would be the better choice, and also which verminlord build should I go for? I thought about magnetizing but the way the halberd interacts with the leg seems to make it so it can either Sqreek, the warpseer or warbirnger one or either the pestilens or eshin version.
>>64576638Khorne is going to get cucked this time around. They're already a hard army to play. Can't wait to see how GW fucks it up. Shorter range and less effects on the Bloodsecrator? Slaughterpriests have to roll natural 6's on their prayers to do anything? Blood Warriors *somehow* get worse attack profiles? Sky is the limit!
>looking through the updated Skaven warscrolls on the app>Clawlord cannot take anything other than a Warpforged blade on its ownI'm genuinely angry. Especially since Queek is still available on the online store and even got an updated page to show him with a round base, what the actual fuck is the point.
>>64576688Sounds like an argument for giving heroes that buff Warriors to StD and giving Warriors special weapon options and shit. Like, I'm all for buffing Warriors, but not in the way being proposed.Like, Chaos should get ranged weapons, flat out, too. That they don't has always been silly. I'm hoping the fact that in the Darkoath warband for Shadespire the fact that one dude has a javelin and the other has a bow is a sign they'll get them as options.
>64576698Oh lovely. The book has barely been announced and we already have the fucking doomsayers coming out of the woodwork.
>>64576752>A fucking rat has 3+number of lost wounds damage D3 attacks with Rend>Furry cunt still finds a reason to complainHeadbutt the sidewalk from the roof of a skyscraper please.
>>64576698>>64576670literally anything that makes it where i can play my daemons without having to bring mortals is all i want.
>>64576752I got him, one with the halberd and another with the warpforged blade. Sure feels strange that they are basically all the same now.At least the Verminus allegiance abilities should make up for it I suppose...
>>64576756I'd be fine with throwing axes. That'd at least be thematic.
I asked this in the last thread but got no reply. Has anyone experience with playing Shadows over Hammerhal with only two people?Does it work? Is it fun? Or does one playing the gamemaster while the other plays all heroes ruin it?
Do plague drones attack with both Prehensile Proboscis and Foul Mouthparts? Warscroll builder doesnt let me choose a loadout for them and the description is confusing
>>64576796Nigger I'm not upset at how the rules are, I'm upset that I'm going to need an entirely new Warlord model for no reason.
>>64576801Too bad, you aren't getting that. psst Council of Blood with Bloodhunt khorne doggos is very strong and affordable now with plastic Flesh Hounds. They're never going to un-nerf Bloodletters tho, just have to deal with it.
>>64576773This happens every time theres a book release for a popular army. Ratfags got a new book with updated rules, new scenery, and new models but that still wasnt enough to stop their spergouts. After seeing one rule in a preview article they started freaking out on /aosg/ and continue their little tantrum to this dayAny modicrum of popularity means there are some autists out there that play it, and they will inevitably start screeching when any kind of changes are announced for their army
>>64576801All that needs is for at least one of the Heralds to have access to Prayers and these newfangled Endless Prayers. But no, that's not the narrative they want to push for AoS, and they aren't gonna make a duplicate Bloodsectrator just for Daemons.
>>64576829Why would you? He only has one weapon profile. Thus, whatever the model has, so long as it's recognizably a Clawlord it uses the same profile.Vampire Lords are sold with like three different weapons but they all use "Vampiric Sword"s because that's the only profile the warscroll comes with. Nobody can even argue WYSIWYG because WYS has no rules to get.Also your model still has a "Warpforged Blade", it just happens to be on the end of a stick.
>>64576847I used to like Skaven back in the day, in like 5th? ed WHFB. I also had a side-warband of them for Mordheim, though I was more of a Middenheimer fan at heart. I liked it better when Skaven were just sneaky-stabby with some Grey Seers at the top of the pecking order, none of that dumb scraptech bullshit and chaos rat daemons. Is that what brought in all of the nu-Skavenfags? because they're kind of insufferable.
>>64576756Well, for one, I doubt StD will ever get 30 heroes, like stormcasts, so buffing their raw stats is far more sensible.>Chaos should get ranged weaponsI'd love warriors to lose the halberds, as they shouldn't be meant to be run in big blocks, and let them take chaos dwarf made blunderbusses or something. In any case, I just want warriors to be the melee powerhouses they are meant to be and that they've never been since AoS came out.
>players that have tomes for their armies cant stop bitching and complaining
>>64576697Well let's look into what makes a mixed skaven army>chaff (clanrats, giant rats)>wizards (engineers, seer, verminlords)>battleshock immunity (bells)>buff support (warlords, priests, packmasters)>guns (weapon teams, cannons, etc.)>heavy hitting melee (monks, stormvermin, rat ogres, etc.)you have chaff, wizards, buffs from warlords, battleshock immunity from the bell, and skryre machines for shooting. Monks with the new changes are looking to be very killy and could be your heavy hitting melee damage dealers. Verminlords are all solid though, pretty much just take your pick if you want one. Skreech is probably the best to build if you wanna proxy your verminlord instead of magnetizing since he looks the most generic, and has the halberd + reaper so he wouldn't look off as any of the other variants
>>64576815Horse Archers have been in Warhammer lore for Chaos for ages. There is no reason for them not to use bows.Literally. Bows are great ways of spreading disease, you can use poisoned or tainted arrows.You can be a glorious archer so Slaanesh is fine, and its finesse and all.Tzeentch literally has guys with bows now.And Khorne cares not where or how the blood flows.There is no reason for chaos not to have archers.
>>64576917StD are never getting new models or a separate book so I wouldn't get too worked up over sunk cost fallacy. They're still fun in casual games and skirmish, so at least you've got that much.
>>64576231I'm in the middle of painting up 2 spire of dawns worth of elves. I'd hoped they'd at least make it through this edition without being squatted but now I'm considering rebasing them on squares before I get anymore done.
How alive is AoS? Been playing 40k forever, and i want to try some fantasy.
>>64575837The big ass rubies look great.
>>64576963Depends entirely on your meta.
>>64576936Fair enough. I guess the reason they used to not have them is because WoC in WHFB were well overpowered enough without it but nowadays "overpowered" and "StD" aren't really words you associate with each other.
>>64576833i am not putting all my eggs in that basket yet till i am sure they aren't nerfing the battalions along with having to have 3 bloodthirsters which are pretty expensive
>>64576920>players that can buy models for their armies and have GHB allegiance abilities can't stop bitching and complaining
>>64576822>stab the enemy with Venomous Stings, and EITHER lash at the foe with a Prehensile Proboscis OR bite with Foul Mouthparts
>>64576935Thanks a lot, glad I didnt get stuck with any usless unit. I was wondering if it would be better to get first either the verminlord kit or pestilens box for more monks, the furnace and a second cannon, considering what I have alreayd, Ill end up owning both eventually was just struggling to pick what would be better as is. They are the same price, money wise.
>>64577004I can buy the models retard.
>>64576986More or less, and it was a major thing in WHFB that they lacked shooting for the most part. But now, that really isn't their thing. Lots of armies do.
>>64573354Why even live if I can't be crushed between thighs like that one day, and by a snake the next?
>>64577044You can't buy Greenskinz or Gitmob off GW, retard. What did you think I was talking about?
>>64576989Same. I already have two bloodthirsters, one unassembled, and now I'm seriously waiting to see what they fuck up before I continue on with anything.
>>64576956I mean they're still playable, and good.
>>64576953>>64577008Thanks, I wasnt sure if they could be built differently or something and was confused
>>64577090Dispossessed Freeguild Draconis Everything isnt greenskins retard.
>>64575749Elves can't have muscles this big
>>64577093this is the list i was thinking of running after some tweaking from advice from this general.
Did Gutrot Spume ever feature in a WFB or AOS BL book?
>>64576964Thanks dude. Glad somebody realized what they are supposed to be
>>64577155Elves can't have bodies this big, but look at Akhelian Guard. They're fucking ripped.
>>64577155That's what Ghur is for.
>>64577160Murderhost really isn't that good anymore with the Bloodletter nerf, but we'll have to see what they do with the new book. I'm hoping new Prayers and a potential Khorne Daemon Priest will help. It's kind of dumb that Bloodmaster or Skulltaker are not Priests.On the plus side, Bloodletter bomb with a WoK Bloodthirster and Daemon Prince of Khorne is still strong in 40k.
>>64577164Well, he played a part in the End Times: Glottkin book which is where he was introduced and he took part in the Realmgate Wars but I don't think there's been an actual novel about him. But just imagine the third Pirates of the Caribbean but Davy Jones has pustules all over and instead of his ship being able to call the Kraken, he killed the Kraken, stuffed it and now uses it as his ship and you're fairly close to Spume's fluff.
>>64576594Yeah, I get it, you are one of those spammy cunts who's upset about being called out. Here's another (you) for your precious post count
>>64577129Do you have down syndrome? >Post about entitled tome posters being greedy>Post about entitled posters who can buy their armies being greedy Y'know, because Greenskinz can't. What's hard to understand? It's a joke. "You at-least have something".
>>64577274No you don't get it cause I'm not one of then you stupid cunt
>>64577274rrrreeee stop posting age of sigmar models in the age of sigmar thread rreeeeeee
>>64577274You still haven't posted your models. So either post content or shut up and report us if you think we are spamming.
>>64576942>StD are never getting new modelsThey are the fourth Malign Portents army, anon. They are getting a tome and a 10+ kit release, just like the other three.>>64576936>Horse Archers have been in Warhammer lore for Chaos for ages.Scourge of Fate does show marauder horsman archers. Though I doubt we'll get a new marauder horsemen kit, the current one looks too good to be replaced. Maybe a bow upgrade sprue they can put in the boxes like they did with land raiders, rhinos and the like?
>>64577331Its not gonna be the chaos warriors you want though. Its going to look like the Drakorath stuff.
>>64577282I misread your post but now that you are being a nigger about it I'm glad your stupid ass army got squatted. Get fucked greenskin autist.
>>64577365Darkoath are just the new name for marauder and chaos tribes. Half of the army is made of warriors, knights, chosen, chariots, now the varanguard and Archaon. We can get at least a warrior and chosen resculpt on top of the marauder resculpt and the new units.
>>64576942They literally have already gotten new models. Darkoath stuff.
>>64577248It doesn't have to be really good for me to use it, i kinda wanted to swarm the field with a huge blob of bloodletters no matter what. originally i wanted to just do a murderhost with the 2 bloodletters and the bloodcrushers and then a bloodhunt with the flesh hounds but someone advised against it and just picking up the bloodsecrator and stoker and putting the doggos into the murderhost.
>>64577369You kept calling me a retard, you bulli.
>>64577304>>64577315If people shill their models enough it will get people backs up. You think I'm the only person calling them out? Those examples I identified earlier (and the fact people recognise them) are the only proof you need that they're taking the piss>p-p-post your modelsI will when they're ready, I just won't keep you updated with 25 progress shots
Did they REALLY remove the ability for skryre & pestilens-allegiance armies to take allies or are TGA-fags just delusional?
>>64576400You are the Shitposter.
>>64577473>You think I'm the only person calling them out?Considering you currently have three people calling you a cunt and not a single one defending you, yes. Yes, I do.>>p-p-post your models>I will when they're ready, I just won't keep you updated with 25 progress shotsSo show us the boxes with a timestamp. Surely you do actually have a vested interest in this game and aren't just shitposting, right?
>Many online retailers in my country don't restock SC! boxes anymore>LGS manager told me that he won't get any new boxes from GW because there is no way to sell them with the new prices and GW is ignoring his orders for over a month nowShit lads, that's not good. Are retailers in your country axing the GW stuff as well?
>going through LVO factions >see this brave soul take 77th What a champ
>>64577617They aren't axing GW stuff you doomsaying retard. They put a limit on how many SC boxes 3rd party retailers are able to buy at once to make sure they couldn't stock up on them before the price increase. And now, between the higher prices and the order limit, these boxes are pointless for retailers to sell.But since lots of online stores and LGSs have discounts on GW prices anyway, that just makes them even better now that SC boxes aren't as amazing anymore.
>>64572931hello AoS/lutsi brought these chaos warriors ready to get them to 40k, but i really like them as they are (im not going to scrach the lether boots)so tell me whats best to expand an army of chaos warriors based with these models?thank you in advance
>>64577531think what you want, you'll get sick of them soon enough if you have half a brain. also>getting called a cunt on 4chanson I am laffin'
So are we going to see rapid fire releases for AoS like 40k got? I'm talking battletomes. Quickly bring the 1.0 armies to 2.0 and some of the non-battletome armies like Dispossessed or Wanderers that can easily get a battletome due to having mostly everything they need?
>>64577402>>64577402That's not chaos warriors in chaos armor though, and chances are they won't ever replace the old plastic kit when they could make new stuff instead of competing with all the chaos warrior kits circulating on third party aftermarkets. It doesn't make any sense for them to replace the old kits. They've given every indication that they want to push the faction in a different visual direction, hence the Drakorath style stuff with shirtless chaos barbarian types, not big chaos armor dudes.>>64577411They're just really fragile and slow. Without that punch its hard to justify using them atm, but I don't think they'd just leave them to rot like that either. I keep emphasizing the need for a Khorne Priest in such an army because being able to give them +1 save, or pull enemies toward you, is HUGE for Khorne armies. That's also why i'm hoping at least one of the Heralds will gain access to Prayers.
>>6457766595% that was some dumbass thinking he could make his old WHFB Dark Elves work in AoS. Dreadspears are objectively shit and the only reason someone might have 40 is because he bought them for WHFB where they were near-busted.
>>64577703chaos warriors are a very tanky defensive unit, especially with tzeentch. You should look for a general that buffs warriors, and some faster units such as knights or chariots. If you have a particular god in mind, you can also mix in units from Blades of Khorne, Tzeentch Arcanites, or Blightkings
>>64577701>And now, between the higher prices and the order limit, these boxes are pointless for retailers to sell.Yes you cunt, and this is what axing means. I msg most of those retailers and they told me they will not sell any SC boxes anymore - they are just removed from their stores for good. My LGS is doing the very same thing since even with the 20% retailer discount people were not eager to buy many of them. With the current price hike they would just act as dust collectors.
>>64573017Has his survival from the World That Was explained, or did he just win at the game of apocalypse and get carried into the far future?
>>64577827You asked if they are "axing the GW stuff". And they aren't. They're removing those specific boxes.
>>64577774Honestly, I could see Wanderers getting a tome. They don't need much. A few endless spells, a Waystone, and some plastic characters. Maybe even plastic warhawks as a big release.
>>64577730it is confusing why the heralds do nothing but activate locus of fury. Makes them really trash their statline isn't even really worth it.
>>64577933You take them to fulfill requirements. Bloodmaster is simply 'okay' because he's cheap.
>>64577774>Swifthawk agents getting decent rules and repacksThey should have done this a long time before
>>64573046it's a dude
>>64577730>They've given every indication that they want to push the faction in a different visual directionThat's not really true. Marauders have been a thing for ages, they are nothing new. Everchosen is a thing, which is gonna get merged with StD, so they'll be a big factor and they just released a novel with a chaos lord MC, his chaos knight retinue and his rival, another chaos lord and his chaos warrior personal guard. Darkoath are just mentioned as any other marauder would, because that's what they are.>and chances are they won't ever replace the old plastic kitI would have had my suspicions but after all the resculpts Gloomspite Gitz got and the new Chaos space marines resculpts they are getting, new chaos warrior/chosen models are a very likely possibilty, even more considering how fucking outdated they are in every way possible.
Hey /aosg/, I used to be a VC player way back, and I'm looking into FEC. I like the lore, but I'm not super crazy about some of the models and I kinda would want to inject a little more of that old gothic flavor of the VC. Though I heard they are getting a new lord? Any advice?
>>64574252S L E E KLEEKHow do you paint smooth black like that?
NEW SKAVEN SCULPTS WHEN-WHEN
>>64578239We're getting that one rocket specialist and that's it.
>>64578239After the next Stormcast book
>>64578239unfortunately, considering the truly ancient shit they continue to write rules for (ex. selling 6th edition poisoned wind globadiers as "skryre acolytes") I doubt it'll be anytime soon
>>64578314So in 2 weeks?
wanting to start a beastmen army. thoughts on what should be the first 4-5 purchases to save for? pic related.
>>64578294DIE-DIE>>64578317anon I fear they are even older than that; I have the 1992 army book and the Globadiers were released shortly after that
>>64578111Old goblin kits are hard to come by and the CSM kits are both ancient and ugly, while the Chaos Warriors have held up well and repackaged way more. Just don't get your hopes up.
>>6457843890 Ungors.60 Bestigors.Buy 6-10 of the Getting Started kits and you'll have the beginnings of a decent BoC army.
>>64578438Bullgors are so-so, bit too fragile imo. Common tactics would suggest lots of Bestigors and/or Ungor Raiders as those little shits can machinegun down things very hard from out of Ambush. Then some regular small Ungor spear units to be chaff screens and sacrificial units for your Bray Shamans.
>>64578438Assuming you're asking because you don't want to buy "non-competitive" units (otherwise just get whatever the hell you think looks cool!) so focus on big blocks (30) of bestigor and ungor raiders, bray shaman, and tzaangor enlightened
>>64578438Probably three of the Getting Started sets to give oyu 30 Bestigors, 30 Ungors, 3 Bray Shamans and 3 Ghorgons. After that, grab two boxes of Bullgors, and then try to find more Ungors and Bestigors for cheap if you can; check eBay and trading sites like /r/miniswap on Reddit or Bartertown.
>>64578438Unless you're absolutely sure that you're going to use the Cygors/Ghorgons dont fall for the Start Collecting box. Just grab what you need from 3rd party retailers to save dosh
>>64578577Eh, not trying to be competitive. Just wanted to know what's in a typical core and how big it is. I'll add to it over time.
>>64578613Forgot to add, starting off I'd field them as just three units of spear Ungors to be your Batteline and chafe screen for the Shamans, Ambush the Bestigors, bully people with the Ghorgons. The biggest issue is you'll want more models you can summon in later. Its a army that's going to demand a LOT of model purchases and tons of minis being fielded.If you want something Chaos that is smaller and more elite, you might try Blightkin or Disciples of Tzeentch.
>>64578652There is a difference between 'competitive' and 'picking up the worst choices in my army and then getting upset about it later'. For example, I wouldn't suggest spamming all Bullgors as you'll have a hard time. Beasts of Chaos want you to use a variety of models anyway, and in large quantities, so its a pretty big monetary commitment. I only play them because I had an extensive Beastmen army back when I played WHFB so it translated over smoothly. If I was getting into the game NOW I wouldn't bother with Beasts of Chaos and focus more on Disciples of Tzeentch or some other, less spammy army with newer kits.
How difficult would it be to sculpt a noose?My Chaos Lord is basically Rasputin in terms of avoiding death, and I want to model him with a broken noose around his neck.
>>64578652Your main offensive unit is Bestigors (best taken in units of 20) or Ungor Raiders (best taken in units of 40), War Hounds are great for screening and Tuskgor Chariots help tie up important units (official model is a finecast mess, convert your own), use these as your core
>>64578785Pointless is what it would be. If you're intent on making one, I'd recommend tying the noose with butcher's twine and giving it two coats of varnish so it holds its shape.The much easier way of doing it would be to use the noose bitz that Flagellants have on their sprues.
>>64578785you could also get some braided string and soak it in glue
So converting clan rats to night runners.I have a shit ton of wych arms from my DE I think the weapons fit well but not the arms. Should I just cut the weapons to fit rat hands or would it be better to build up the arms with green stuff to fit?
>>64577706Look at how well I dodged the lack of models thing.
>>64575754how many times are people gonna ask this same question?
>>64575340Anyone know what the head/hair of the centre left chick is from?
>>64578913The elf dreadfleet captain I believe.
>>64578913Also I’m fairly sure that’s a dude.
>>64577955you know what would be a huge kick in the balls? if they made it where the Secrator only worked on Khorne Mortals. but i agree at least one of them should have the powers of the priests.
>>64578913The hair is from a Black Ark Fleetmaster. The head itself is something Eldar or Dark Eldar but I can't tell exactly which one.
>>64578509>CSM kits are both ancient and uglySo are marauders and warriors. We know marauders are getting a new kit, it makes no sense for warriors not to get them. It would look ridicukous for marauders to be a head taller and to be wider than them.
>>64578913>>64578937>>64578956>>64578974Head with hair is from the Dark Elf Fleetmaster yes, and yes, he's a dude.
>>64579002Y-your a dude!
Any suggestions for how to fill out a 2000 point Grand Host of Nagash list? People I'm playing against are tired of playing against bonedaddy + spellportal. What should I do with that extra like 860 points?
>>64578974the whole thing (head+hair) is the fleetmaster
>>64579031More skeletons, obviously.
>>64575749I recognize those chocolate aelves. Trying out that skin recipe for my Daemonettes, haven't got the highlights down right though. Do you remember what you did for the leathers?
>>64579046How much bone is too much bone
>>64575749DELICIOUS CHOCOLATE ELVES ANON IS ALIVE
>>64579064That's like asking how much dakka is enough, anon. It never is.
>>64579064There's no such thing. Cram as many skeletons as you can into that thing.
>>64579064Depends on what you intend the list for. I already get complaints from my friends for bringing a brick of 40 Skeletons for my Bone Zone, but they're a couple of whiny bitches to begin with. So I'd say don't do 80 if you want to do friendly non-competitive games.
>>64579125That's the biggest thing, my friends that I play with are pretty fucking bad, but I love the bones too much. I get complaints about having a 40 block of spear lads so I'm trying to stray away from that. I was thinking about maybe doing something more "fun" like the deathmarch battalion? Would that even be worth it?
>>64579085Hello. I paused doing that army to work on Titans pretty much. Now they're done, I'm back to the Realms of Chaos skirmish project.
>>64579205Welcome back, my man.
>>64579202I know that feel. Bone Zone is a delight to play but my friends are brainlets who can't figure out how to counter my skeletons even they though play top tier armies. So anyway I wouldn't get a second brick. Deathmarch is also pointless to take. One thing I'm doing is maintaining my core of a 1k pure Bone and then building around it. Adding in Necromancers, Nighthaunt, Mortarchs, Vampires, etc. If you haven't, bump up your Grave Guard. They aren't as good as Grimghast Reapers but they still do some good work. I currently run 20 and get no complaints about them from my group, despite the fact they're capable of destroying a lot of units in one turn.
>>64578732>>64578613Not that Anon but I have started a BoC army with 3 start collecting boxes and 2 boxes of gors like 2 weeks ago to not get hit with the price hike. Since I want to play Gavespawn I thought about buying 4 chaos spawns and 10 more ungors to field 1x 30 Bestigors, 1x 10 Gors, 1x 10 Ungors and 1x 30 Ungor raiders. The question is - is it worth to keep all 3 Ghorgon kits or should I sell them or trade them for something else?
>>64578041Your brain was rotted by 4chan
>>64579344I think they would look better with white hair.
>>64579327Fuckin' TELL ME ABOUT IT. They're playing Stonehorn Spam and optimized Sigmarines but complaining about the Congregation of Calcium. My original list was basically ~1k of summonable units + nagash, wight king, and a necro. Im probably going to swap nagash for arkhan, do you think it would be worth investing into some grave guard then? Im not touching Reapers, I aint no WAAC fag.
>>64579460White hair is terribly hard to do on models without it looking like shit.
>>64579482>"I'll tone down the bonezone the moment you stop your Ballista spam."
What are the best allies for Idoneth?
>>64579482Absolutely build a list around Arkhan. He's the strongest of the Mortarchs and everyone is sleeping on him. You can easily build a list that makes him super powered enough to take on Nagash, and Lords of Sacrament is maybe the best battalion in our allegiance. Drop Nagash, use Arkhan and his battalion, and go to town. Use a corpse cart if you want. I don't because I just don't like the model.
Here's your new thread. I hope you like it ugu~>>64579596>>64579596>>64579596
>>64579597What makes him so good besides his spell and command ability? Is it just being able to sling shit out spells with that battalion? and would the umbral spellportal be worth taking?
>>64579542But the vanilla/Hagg Nar scheme has white hair.
>>64579357Ghorgons are good! Cygors less so. The only reason you don't see Ghorgons in tournaments is because they aren't quite top tier and you need lots of chunky Gor/Ungor bricks for board control and chaff screens for the Shamans doing.If you aren't playing on the cutting edge tournament meta they're perfectly valid. I like to take Darkspawn so I can Ambush them.
>>64579597No one is sleeping on Arkhan. He is in most of the tournament lists using LoS.