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Moe edition

>Previous thread
>>64557544

>Official AoS website
ageofsigmar.com/

>Updated Forgeworld Compendiums
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/Monstrous-Arcanum-2018

>Resources
pastebin.com/UVKnsh7d

>AoS Novels, Battletome PDF and Audiobooks
mega.nz/#F!q84BWKiL!CN6kasdx1Pyshfga_UzuEQ
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>Rulebook of Nightvault
mega.nz/#!PsZX3C5A!8Eq41d8y3ozTdhexxDIbzn33cOK7QKchiVpQIOCLt9k

>Tools
warhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/
warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/
repl.it/repls/FrivolousBelovedEmperorpenguin
nofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psd

>Thread Question
Does the OP need to be updated further? What hobby did you get done this weekend?
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>>64564762
Is this going to be the Chaos Idol next time Stringstorm does his thing?
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Any news on Warcry?
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>>64564892
Nope. Still waiting. Honestly more excited for that than I am for whatever Forbidden Power is.
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Claimed for Sigmar
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>>64559018

It's more like a hybrid of them. It has much more advanced "AI" than silver tower, enemies have reaction table which differs depending on their location to adventurers. It doesn't need a GM since it has randomised encounters, but it can be run with 5th player being the hostile player. Just like in hammerhall the game features Hub where you purchase stuff for your adventurer.

Please note that the game issue balanced for 4 adventurers and solo and duo game is played with 4 adventurers. Deaths are permanent in the campaign. My boardgame group loves the game even if they dislike "traditional" Warhammer miniature games. I recommend it.
Posted to dead thread, good job me.
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>>64564762
I'm to new to the /aosg/ to say
I just painted my first Ork Boy
>I don't play orks it was part of a speed painting contest.
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>>64564990
I caught it anyway, Anon. I was just holding my Mortis Engine together!

Thanks for the heads up, I'll probably pick it up based on the models alone.

I was also hoping to play it with 4 people, but also 2 people myself and my gf. Would that work out okay?

>>64565027
Post pics, Anon! Be proud of your hard work.
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Rolled 2, 5, 6, 2, 3, 4 = 22 (6d6)

Reposting in non-ded thread
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>>64565055
I left it out in my car and I am a lazy fuck. Maybe tomorrow.
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>>64564935
Based and Stormpilled
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Are freeguild relevant or are they going the way of bretonnians?

Even a soup battletome would.make such a difference
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>>64565055
Oh the horror of Mortis engine.. yeah it's still very much playable with 2 people, both will use 2 adventurers or you can scale the encounters down by halving number of enemies. I've tried both way with my gf, she liked both styles.
Oh and if you have December 2018 white dwarf it has specific 2-player scenario. I think the scans of the scenario are floating around somewhere. Happy hobbying anon!
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>>64565564
Anyone got a scan?
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>>64565488
They're not going to get squatted, they're the only relevant human faction left. Worst case scenario, they get an update that leaves them unrecognizable from what they were before.
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Is this the future of Aelfs?
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>>64566075
hopefully not, hopefully squatted instead
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>can no longer have multiple of the same weapon in a unit
>warpfires suck now, for some reason they made it only count as 1 warpfire thrower despite the fiends having 2
>shock gauntlets can no longer be modified
>can no longer be buffed by packmasters or the new master moulder
>wind launcher got more rend for some fucking reason when it's an anti-horde weapon
>wind launcher still outclassed by the shitter warpfire thrower
>warpgrinder had damage nerfed
>ratling cannons literally the only good option left but even they got barely a buff
the fuck are stormfiends even gonna be used for anymore? 30 point decrease is going to do nothing
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>>64566087
Why?
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So I may be the densest mother f****** on the planet, so you know how they took the finecast fleshounds off the webstore? Easy money is that they will release the plastic fleshounds along side the new Skulltaker and Endless "Spells"
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How can I possibly max out a Gorethunder Cohort in a matched play game?
It requires me to bring 1 Bloodthrone, and 8 Skullcannons to get the full benefit to the battalion. Problem is even at 2500pts you can only bring 5 artillery pieces.
>help
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I missed out on pestigors does anyone recast them
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What is the warpcog convocation for skryre? I don't recall ever seeing it in the chaos book. Is it new?
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>>64566666
Might I recommend you this Start Collecting! Slaanesh, gentlerat?
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I’m confused, are the Dispossessed all living as craftsman for Sigmar/Order, or are some of them back in Karaks living the old ways the old ones intended?
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>>64566090
well, they wont auto kill heroes anymore thats for sure. before, if they got within 8" of prettymuch any hero in the game, they were dead. considering most factions rely on their heroes and many missions require heroes to hold objectives, this made them unreasonably strong when converted for the entire squad to have the warpfire throwers.

tldr; ratfags brought this on themselves by eating too much cheese
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>>64566729
Yes to both.
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>>64566335
no fucking shit sherlock
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>>64566185
Because all old elfs must dissapear. Soon Light and Shadow elves here and we already have DoK and IDK we dont and repeat DONT need more elfs. Nor souped or expanded. Death to old elfs.
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Rolled 5, 6, 3, 6, 6, 4 = 30 (6d6)

>>64565121
Rollin
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Wait.. What's this about a God under Shadespire?
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>Nagash got a new spell
>Whenever he's used with FEC
What the fuck?
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>>64566472
Sauce?
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>>64567020
Says who?
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>>64567087
I ain't a snitch, Nagash
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>>64566472
Gorethunder Cohorts are a horrible idea and you shouldn't use one at all.
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Has anyone been able to read close enough to know if FEC gets both Delusions AND Great Courts? Is it like stormcast where you get the main ability (deep strike/delusion) and give up choice of Trait/Artifact for bonus Cmd Ability and army effect?
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>>64566759
Any mention of these Karaks in novels or fluff? I’m guessing they are just the same as Fantasy Karaks, but with them all being retaken/new it leaves room for some nice additions.
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>>64567040
He can use it regardless of allegiance. Hes the big grand daddy of death, no way his kids have a toy he doesnt know about.
10% nagash bootlickers should be feasted upon on sight
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>>64567171
Yeah it's like storm hosts. Grand court and everything jt comes with or, pick and choose relic+delusion+trait from the tables
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>>64566335
>what is wrath and rapture?
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>>64567020
You mean slaanesh? He's next to shadespire, though.
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>>64567339
Nope, new God.
A lot of people are suspecting Setra.
My hope is Soul Wars 2 coming soon has Nagash try some new shit and backfire, losing control of Setra & he summons the Tomb Kings.
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Someone send me bases so I can move to rounds.
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>>64567349
Forbidden Power
Unlock Egypt Chamber of SCE

Monkey's Paw, Tomb Kings
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>>64567352
Where you at, what base size, and how many?
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>>64567375
I need 200 25mm.
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>>64567386
Not the Anon you replied to but just buy 2 of these

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/100-x-25mm-base
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>>64567349
>suspecting settra.
Ah,so just rampant retardation, okay. Sorry for taking your question seriously.
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>>64567401
>80 USD to rebase
Jesus man
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>>64567447
Don’t buy it all in one go, buy one pack, and when you’re done with rebasing 100 then you buy another one.
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>>64567439
Why couldn't they bring back Setra? Bone Daddy killed him, and all the Tomb Kings during TET.
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>>64567458
Because they will not. Certainly not just "because".

This is just wishlisting by people who didn't give half a flying fuck about tomb kings until they got the axe.
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>>64567490
>This is just wishlisting
I don't work at GW, so of course it's wishlisting. Are you dumb?
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>>64567500
Based and clownpilled
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>>64567447
Bases are perhaps the easiest thing to get Chinese knockoff versions of. You can easily find 100 packs of 25mm rounds on eBay for like $10. Z also has a full range of bases that he sells for dirt cheap
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So... what's the skryre warpcog convocation. Anyone?
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This list won the LVO AoS.

Say something nice about it.
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LVO top results for AOS
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>>64567500
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>>64567644
more
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>>64567447
>>64567454
>>64567617
I am just gonna get MDF

https://www.ebay.com/itm/50x-25mm-Round-Laser-Cut-MDF-Miniature-Bases/112304640021?hash=item1a25e0d015:g:O8EAAOSwDkVaWjMl:rk:1:pf:0
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>>64567644
>>64567654
Nothing too surprising besides the lack of DoK.
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>>64567654
Can you check the other lists somewhere?
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>>64567666
https://aosshorts.com/lvo-2019-results-top-lists/

LUCKY FUCK, nice devils

Khorne Dragon list
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>>64567654
Wtf no dispossessed?
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>>64567737
>Sequitors
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>>64567654
That Tzeentch list isn't too far off my own. Just a few, admittedly big, differences.
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>>64567746
both top 4 stormcast had 20
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>>64567654
>>64567644

>No DoK

Why? My mate literally spends all day bitching about how OP they are, and how they dominate every single tournament.
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>>64567776

>Playing competitively
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>>64567776
Gross
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>>64567840
Your mate needs to git gud
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Do you guys play a lot of Narrative Play? If so how do you set up fun scenarios and missions? I want to play more narrative battles than just matched games in order to spice things up a little
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>>64567284
See, thats confusing, because in Stormcast, you still get the major ability (the deep strike) even if you choose a host. The only thing you lose is choice of Trait/Artifact
Here, it sounds like its loss of Trait/Artifact, AND delusion? I mean, that would make some sense, and it would still be quite strong, but the youtube vid glosses over that part and its pretty significant (and the stormcast comparison seems most apt)
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What colours contrast well with rusty browns and oranges? Need to break up the armour for raised details, symbols etc on my blightkings but not sure what to do with
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>>64564905
You are not alone.
>I CALL YOU
I love this trailer
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>>64568057
A blue, silver, or light grey would stand out the most
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>>64567920

He plays Khorne Gore Pilgrims and dominates every single game with 3 Slaughter Priests and multiple skull cannons. But if I even suggest that Gore Pilgrims is a tad busted he cries that my 3 units of 10 Witch Aelves is the most broken shit in the game.
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>>64568183

Sounds like he's just parroting shit he's seen online without understand the context on why those people were saying its OP to begin with.

Ask him specifically what are broken about them
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I am going to keep playing this absolute abortion of a model until GW update the fatemaster model.
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how mad do people get when you pull this out and stomp them?
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>>64568183
Most people really suck at this game. They do not bring any chaff or they forget you win by objectives not by charging your entire army into opponents army. Also some people tend to get very discouraged when they start losing units/get behind on points.

I was playing my DoK against FEC. I was clearly in the lead and pushing forward but it was that scenario where you can burn objectives and the longer you hold them the more points you get. I pushed forward so much I had nothing holding objectives in my half. My opponent just gave up hope at that point, but if he summoned his stupid ghouls in the back and got a double turn he could rob me of all the points and turn the game around. If you're losing, why wouldn't you take the chance? And he did get the double turn so it would have worked.
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>>64567195
The only mention of the word Karak that I am aware of is in the Gloomspite Gits battletome. Karaks are mentioned as places Grots take over and live in.
I don't think much of the settlement is elaborated on, but the short story "A Dirge of Dust and Steel" features a clan of Dispossessed living in Shyish and gives insight on that clan's culture.
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>>64568198
I just think it's a waste of money for such an uggo mcfuggo model
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>>64568196
He actually looks alright m8
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In the lore, do Stormcast ever defend positions for prolonged periods? Do they have like baggage trains and shit? What do they eat?
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>>64568198

Nobody gets mad, they just feel sorry that a person needs to buy a 600$ win-button to enjoy the game.

As a collectors piece, its cool. As a narrative battle big boss guy, its cool. As a beat-stick you can whip out whenever you're afraid of losing because you have more disposable income than your opponent, its not cool.
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>>64566666
Witnessed
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>>64568298
There's a mention in Soul Wars of a Stormcast guard who eats apples from a bag while on duty.
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>>64568310

Cool cool, didn't know they really did "guard duty". Just figured they were Shock Infantry Sigmar threw down when he wanted to initiate combat.
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>>64568325
The character in question was a Lord-Castellant so it kind of fits.
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>>64568196
but they did
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>>64568276
Thanks anon, it’s all confusing to me, the Kharadron Overlords battletome shows some Karaks, as lost holds before the time of the sky fleets, so I’m unsure what to call the current Dawi holds that’s not Fyreslayers/Kharadron Overlords owned. I’ll be reading the suggested book after I’m done with the iron dragon book dealing with the Overlords.
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>>64568382
Oh shit yeah what's his name?
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Looking to get into AoS with a nighthaunt army. Any anons know how I should start it?
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>>64568416
Ahrimann
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>>64568421
The souls wars starter box is a good place to start
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>>64568183
This seems to indicate that you're both bad.

Gore pilgrims really isn't broken, skull cannons are outright terrible and minimum squads of witch aelves is not a particularly sensible way to field them.

Neither of you have a good reason to be complaining about the other army being OP.
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>>64566571
Buy uno box of Gor and one box of Plaguebearers. BOOM. 20 Pestigors
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>>64568555

I mean sure, if you want 20 SHITTY looking Pestigors
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>>64567349
>Settra.

It's faaaaaar more likely it's about slaanesh, or a new faction alltogether.
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>>64568463
I would, but I don't have anyone to split it with
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>>64568604

Don't listen to that other anon, Soul Wars is fucking shit for either armies start. Don't bother with it.

Just start with two units of Chainrasps and the Ghost general guy on steed. Also get a box of Grimghast reapers.

Soul Wars gives you wonky unit sizes that and stuff you wont even use
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>>64568604
>Buy souls wars
>Sell stormcast
>Buy the rest you need as >>64568625 said from the money you get from selling the stormcast
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>>64568421
>https://aosshorts.com/lvo-2019-results-top-lists/
Buy two soul wars and convert the stalkers into grimgast reapers so that you have a full 10 man unit.
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>>64568571
They do look way better than the originals, are not mono pose and have a lot of character, but sure, sorry if I tried to help.
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>>64568625
Anon, you do know that you get two unit of chainrasp and the knight, along with other stuff, for LESS than buying those tree alone?
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>>64568526
>minimum squads of witch aelves is not a particularly sensible way to field them.

Because I don't want to spend a fortune to field max units?
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>>64568695
These are pretty good; I'd buy extra beastmen heads though
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>>64568625
Going with this, seems like the best choice. Thanks anons
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Is there a good Sylv book?
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>>64568577
Instead of Tomb Kings, it's probably the not-Tomb Kings that have been the core of Shadespire the whole time. I can't remember their name.
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>>64568805
Katophranes?
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>>64568805
Catophranes
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>>64568604
>>64568749
Do you think they have spooky ghost sex? Or does Olynder cuck Kurdoss nightly?
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Im confident they will bring us back. Glorious times ahead, Nagash prepare your sorry ass for the true ruler.
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>>64568722
Field one unit of 30 then 2 units of 5 Melusai fuck that was hard
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Freeguild is brought back and given new rules, but relegated to a pure FW army. Would you welcome that, freeguild cucks?
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Which Khorne SC! should I buy? This or the Goreblade?
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Looking to get started with Slaves to Darkness. What are the odds of a new Battletome? Are they even remotely viable alone? (Could a new battletome carry Chaos Undivided?) Can I start with them then branch in to ANY chaos god army?
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>>64568973
FW used to make absolutely brilliant Empire minis, much better than GW, in fact
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>>64568918
>New chamber opened
>New God appearing under Shadespire
Is it time, boys? I just primed my Arkhan & Mortis Engine.
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Is it too hard to ask for a thread image actually related to the fucking game?
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>>64569019
This one and the khorne half of Old Starter.
Then a blood priest.
But you need the reavers, and need the bloodsecreator
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>>64568757
There is a collection of sylvaneth short stories but no book, sadly.
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>>64567775
> just like mine!!!!
> except with differences that make it way way better
What a faggot
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>>64569062
I kind of wonder what citation are people drawing from in regards to the whole "new god appearing under shadespire."
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>>64569130
Their assholes. As usual
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>>64569130
It's completely baseless. The teaser said "ancient evil awakened in Shadespire." No mentioning of gods.
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>>64569154
Wait, doesn't the site just mention "an ancient evil has awakened"?

I am not finding a single mention of shadespire there.
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>>64569154
Not even Shadespire is mentioned.

>Now, in 2019, the Soul Wars continue – and something ancient and terrible is awakened…
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Why does this Freeguild general have the Bad Moon on his banner?
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>>64569185
Morrslieb.
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>>64569173
It's a Shadespire announcement.
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>>64569193
It doesn't exist in the Realms.
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>>64569197
No it isn't, Anon. It's an expansion continuing the Soul Wars narrative. Nothing Shadespire about it.
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>>64569197
...

No it's not. It's for balance of power.
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>>64569205
Well it did in the Old World when those models were sculpted.
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>>64569173
Its referring to the stormvaults being opened, which is the next Stormcast Chamber, probably released around Q3 of this year.

I wonder if they'll get a new tome again, or if it will be a staleone tome like Extremis was.
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>>64569104
It is similar. The only differences are instead of a shaman I bring a warscroll battalion. Instead of 10 Tzaangors I bring a battalion and instead of 6 enlightened I bring a warscroll battalion. In fact all but one of the units are the same and the rest only differ in size except the ones that don't.
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Was away a few days, we have FEC spoilers? Was there any major change?
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>>64569205
>Why don't GW go back in time to retroactively change models to reflect current lore?
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>An Host of Slaanesh
Does anybody have the list?
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>>64569225
How do you get Stormcast chamber from Stormvaults?
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>>64569254
We've had a new Stormcast chamber and tome every year since AoS released. It'd be amazing if they didn't get one, and this seems like the opportunity.
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Newfag here kind of confused about matched play point cost rules. Is the listed unit point cost static for the unit regardless of the number of models (So a unit listed as 140 points with a size between 10 and 20 models is counted as 140 points regardless if I field 10, 15, or 20) or am I meant to infer cost per model (So 140 for 10 would mean 14 per model, so if I wanted to use 20 I'd need to spend 280 points)?
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>>64569247
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>>64569285
Thank you!
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>>64569280
Yes, the point cost are for the number stated. 140 for 10, 280 for 20 etc. however some units get a discount if you take max number
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>>64569280
You pay for an entire block.
140 for 10 models.
280 for 20 models.
BUT
You still have to pay full price for non-complete units.
A unit of 18 still costs 280 even if they are 14 points a model.
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>>64569285
>Mammoth

Why? Just for area denial or is it actually good beyond its size?
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>>64569280
Any unit has a point for an X amount of models (usually 5 or 10). You can buy multiple of those numbers.

For example. 10 Bestigor for 140 point means that you play 140 points for 1 to 10 bestigors, 280 for 11 to 20 and so on.
Some unit also get a horde discount, that's shown in a cost of 100/350 for example.
That means that the min unit and it's multiple cost 100, but the full unit costo only 350 and not 400
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>>64569323
It's mortal wounds attack with his tusks are a proper attack, not an ability like most similar stuff on other monsters.

That means you can do it twice with the Slaaneshi Lord on Biscia's command ability.
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>>64568973
Well that wont happen because we still have no normal human faction and if imperial guard players are anything to go by there's a market for that
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>>64569301
>>64569306
>>64569340
So you pay for units in multiples of its smallest values, unless it gets a horde discount in which case you can get the maximum for a lower cost?
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>>64569185
It's not the bad moon it's just part of the general sun and moon iconography inherent to warhammer. Go look at Blanche's stuff and you'll see daemon suns and moon faces as a common motif
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>>64565840
They have the same aesthetic and units in lore, so that's unlikely. They could update the guard and handgunner models so they have more armour and baggy clothes instead of pajamas, but not much else.
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>>64569382
Basically yes
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What's a good replacement for Nighthaunt Bloom? It looks too grey for me. I want more vibrant Tomb Kings blue.

Corax white spray to prime it and then cover the model in Guilliman Blue?
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>>64569399
Alright, thanks for the help.
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>>64569401
It will look like poop.
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>>64569401
>Corax white spray to prime it and then cover the model in Guilliman Blue?
You will have no shade whatsoever that way.

Mixing Drakenhof Nightshade with Lahmian Medium it's probably a better idea.
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>>64569415
>>64569410
It's for the bottom of the Mortis Engine, actually. Shiet, I don't have any Nightshade. The store ran out.
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>>64568805
Based on the lore they are anything but 'terrible' foes. Just mages with their precious shadeglass.
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>>64569254
Because for 3 years each time Sigmar has opened a stormvault, he was keeping a chamber inside.
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>>64568805
How does one get a green like that?
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>>64569401
Use calgar blue and then make a recess wash with thinned down drakenhoff nightshade.
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>>64569453
i think mages that can make people immortal and cursed to be undead are a very serious threat. They can trap souls in shadeglass so Nagash can't control their skelly armies and to power constructs. Wait that sounds familiar...
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>>64569393
They could just minimise the HRE elements a bit in favour of a proto-industrial sort of theme; I mentioned this in a similar discussion many threads back but maybe something like this? https://www.instagram.com/p/BtKa8tYH4dN/

(it's a conversion for a skirmish warband)
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hows this for 2k?:
Heroes:
Arch-warlock 160
Warlock-Engineer 100
Warlock-Engineer 100

Battleline:
3 Stormfiends; warpfire projectors, ratling cannons, shock-gauntlets 260
3 Stormfiends; warpfire projectors, ratling cannons, shock-gauntlets 260
40 clanrats; rusty spears 200
40 clanrats; rusty spears 200

Units:
Warpgrinder 80
warpfire thrower 70
Warp Lightning Cannon 180

Battalions:
warpcog convocation 60
Gautfyre Skorch 140
archpark voltik 110

Endless Spells:
Bell of Doom 40
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>>64569461
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>>64569491
>warpcog convocation 60
>Gautfyre Skorch 140
also, not sure what those do in the new book
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>>64569497
>Just use a glaze
Then why won't the Guilliman Blue work?
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>>64569488
Look at the guy in the middle. That's how they'll look. A bit less flamboyant, baggy clothes, less strambotic colour combinations, a bit more gritty and down to earth than actual HRE.
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>>64569458
There's not one use of the term Stormvault in the most recent Stormcast Battletome.
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>>64569513
Because the anon asked for a green? Also guilliman blue is darker, it won't look like it's glowing, that's why I suggested calgar blue.
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When does GW release Dispossessed and complete the Duardin trinity?
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>>64569545
How do I do the blue on these spirit hosts? That's the colour I'm aiming for. Something quite vibrant, but also ice cold.
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>>64569484
No, it's a much better technology than what Sigmar has. This is why he sent SCE into Shadespire to loot it.
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>>64569553
Probably this year. They seem to be doing tons of no model battletome releases and dispossessed are perfect for that, they just need to be able to take their cannons.
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>>64569553
sooner than you might expect
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>>64567500
Because Dispossessed are a joke, haha.
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>>64569563
Very thinned down calgar blue (so you don't have to drybrush the white) and guilliman blue in the recesses to darken them down a bit.
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>>64569563
base white, wash, drybrush, ez
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>>64569361
Oh fuck, didn't realize Mammoth had mortal as a keyword
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>>64569565
What does that have to do with anything I've said? What are you saying no to?
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>>64569581
Why wouldn't I wanna drybrush the white?
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>>64569453
I don't know anon, an entire army of powerful death mages driven to fury by centuries of imprisonment sounds really terrible to me.

>>64569563
It looks like a diluted shade applied in an increasing amount of coats towards the bottom, and then a white highlight on the raised areas.
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>>64569592

Because drybrushing looks like shit on flat surfaces.
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>>64569592
Because it never looks good. It always turns out chalky and ruins the glow effect. It's much better to thin down a lot the midtone so the white primer shows up on the raised parts and then darken the recesses.
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>>64569592
Messy, uncontrollable, looks bad up close
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>>64569531
Besides the whole ~'Gung will get you one day' and cool Grungni smithing and showing here and there, nothing happened, literally nothing. I wouldn't recommend this book to anyone other than rat-lovers. War Claw audiodrama was way more engaging.
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>>64569589
You said it sounds familiar.
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>>64569491
help me anons, for the Horned Rat!
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>>64569614
Yeah, because Tomb Kings had constructs and skeletons, I still don't know what you are refering to.
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good/bad, rate my setup aosg

Allegiance: Idoneth Deepkin
Mortal Realm: Aqshy

Leaders
Vulturnos, High King of the Deep (280)
- General
Isharann Tidecaster (100)
- Artefact: Thermalrider Cloak
- Lore of the Deeps: Arcane Corrasion

Battleline
6 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (320)
3 x Akhelian Morrsarr Guard (160)
3 x Akhelian Ishlaen Guard (140)

Total: 1000 / 1000
Extra Command Points: 0
Allies: 0 / 200
Wounds: 61
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>>64569458
They're not called stormvaults, dummy.
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>>64569648
What are they called, then?
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>>64569641
Generic King a best and where is your Turtle?
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>>64569683
Generic king is not the best and if you're suggesting the turtle that's completely pointless turn 1 you need to stop giving advice
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>>64569683
kinda hard to fit the turtle at 1k, plus I dont have a model yet
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Painting my plaguebearers tomorrow. Do any of you anons have some ideas for schemes which aren't just the standard pale nurgle green?
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>>64569621
The whole reason for Soul Wars is that Sigmar traps souls so that Nagash can't get to them.
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>>64569705
I’m just kidding I just like the turtle.
>>64569704
Not advice just giving attention to a list post. What are the pro and cons of the generic vs high king anyway?
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>>64569713
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>>64569776
All bad schemes for nurgle. Great schemes for Seraphon.
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>>64569678
Chambers. They have always been called chambers, you mouthbreather. Extremis Chamber, Sacrosanct Chamber etc. He's opening new Chambers. Fucking idiot.
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>>64569713
Purple
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>>64569704
Everything being in cover is pretty good though right?
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>>64569705
Ignore him.
I'm glad you took my advice on hero and spell choice. I'm not familiar with aqshy but I still hold a firm belief that dhom hain is the go to for enclave choice. Although its range is only 12" kraken tooth isnt a bad choice for relic.
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>>64569205
It's ghost does. Bad moon takes a bite out of it.
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>>64569812
It's only even situational when you have blobs of namarti and even then you'll likely have volturnos and eidolon sea for a 2k army. It's just too much investment to get cover turn 2 on, especially when you can screen with anything Deepkin with Forgotten Nightmares.
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>>64569739
Okay? So what does that have to do with Katophranes being not!Tomb Kings and them being an actual threat?
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>>64566090
Keep crying skryrefag. Just because you can’t cheese things off the board as easily doesn’t mean fiends suck now.
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>>64569851
Huh good to know! My gf just started idoneth just starting to learn about their stuff. I play Skaven (Eshin) so I’m fitting to get rolled on the daily.
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>>64569553
You forget, it’s not a trinity
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>>64569887
Its jaw attack is the only reason to take it beyond the cover save but yeah. It's pretty much just a trap at this point. If the turtle gave a bubble of -1 to hit that be a different story
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>>64566090
>can no longer have multiple of the same weapon in a unit
>>warpfires suck now, for some reason they made it only count as 1 warpfire thrower despite the fiends having 2

GOOD, fuck your warp-flame abusing bitch self.

Feels good to be the one guy who made his 'Fiends non cheesy and doesn't have to hack them apart. They should have been this way from inception.
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>>64566075
I wager that about half of the High elf range, probably newer stuff and infantry, will be merged into the hysh elves, the rest squatted. Same with Dark elves and scalie Malerion.
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>>64569986
>Chorf being canon
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>>64569989
Well I guess the rules shake up pretty often maybe that will be a thing sometime!
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>>64569786
>gangrenous black limbs and the body like a colourful poisonous fruit makes no sense for nurgle

stick to your vomit green then
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>>64569713
This might be a good colour scheme. I have only painted one mini with it though and that was just a small Nurgling. You can find it in the Flesh section in the paint app labeled under Boils
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>>64569860
based master moulder?
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>>64569713
>>64570043
Here you can see how it looks like on a Nurgling
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>>64569997
That would be disappointing, not gonna lie. I had expect something cooler than that, and the concept of Azyr aelves is still pretty nice.
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>>64570003
We are mentioned in the fluff! Your just a racist! reeee
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>>64570074
>drybrushing skin
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>>64569997
This except nothing will get squated.
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>>64570043
>>64570074
looks good anon, I might at least try it on a test model but i think it works well as a detail on your spoilpox
>>64570134
but anon drybrushing can work well on nurgle models
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>>64570003
>>64570130
fimir made it in
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>>64570130
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>>64570153
I don't see any drybrushing on your model
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>>64570179
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/20/painting-plaguebearers-with-tyler-mengelgw-homepage-post-3/
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Are DoK difficult to paint and play with?
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>>64570243
no
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Confess.
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>>64570358
Warhammer is fun!
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>>64570358
I put off painting units coz I don't know how good they are in game but I refrain from gaming sometimes because I don't like playing with unpainted models
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>>64570358
i don't play the game
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>>64570358
My dudes > your dudes
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>>64570413
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>>64570358
I'm about to drop another $350 on my army even though I already have 3k points of them and I've only built a single figure so far
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>>64570358
Why does he have a little Stormcast head on his staff?
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>>64570431
Oh man that’s harsh. Good luck to you sir!
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>>64570130
They make the Varanguard's and some chaos lords weapons and armour. Thay have a chance.
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Neat kit
https://www.instagram.com/p/BtnSPm9HVTb/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=4kxrtu205ent
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>>64570461
Fucking put Scourge of Fate in the Mega already you fucks
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>>64570447
Looks like a scale, to weigh souls or something. Or maybe for justice purposes, like Justitia, you know.
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>>64570447
>>64570474
he judges the souls of the living to see if they are worthy of becoming new stormcast
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>>64570492
>>64570474

Huh, pretty close.
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>>64570153
There's a big difference between that model and yours though, anon. You clearly leave too much paint on the brush when you drybrush and the color difference between the base and the highlight is too big, making the model look quite chalky. The rest of the model looks pretty good actually, but the chalkiness of the skin stands out quite a bit. Try to dry your brush a lot more, maybe also use a softer brush - makeup brushes are actually pretty good for that purpose.
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>>64570358
Nightvault was the best thing to come out of AoS
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>>64567654
>Trumphammer
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>>64570358
I fap to wood elf girls
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>>64570544
Not a sin though.
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>>64570358
I'm selling my old army to buy a new army and the new army is the same as the old army
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>>64570544
My ex gf was into larp, so I fucked her while she was dressing as an elven sorceress

It was mediocre
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>>64570447
It's a scale of judgement
Once a soul is captured by the StormPope it is judged and weighed. Should they be fully and willingly corrupted by chaos with no trace of the man they were before or just a living automaton of Nagash's baleful will then the scale will fall and the soul judged and banished

Should it rise then the soul still has traces of what it was before, any good/honour/valor/etc, then the scale rises and the soul ascends to Azyr where it can be reforged instead of eaten by Chaos gods are linger to be risen again by a necromancer
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>>64570572
You don't like how it's painted or something like that?
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>>64570422
my army isn't painted yet anon. what kind of person plays with unpainted models?
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>>64570134
this faggot spams his shitty paintjobs in every thread, you get used to it
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Soon.
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>>64570610
at least he posts his models and contributes to the thread
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>>64570134
I-i tried the same thing with a Bloodletter once.
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Anyone playing the updated Aos skirmish? Any good model choices for chaos?
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Skaven tome leak when?
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>>64570833
Who cares
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>>64570833
none of them are
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Imagine having Thanquol near a unit of 30 witch aelves, you get 120 rolls, each 4+ is a mortal wound against them

warpfire nerfed? I don't think so :D
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>>64567087
Shh dont tell
>>64567106
My man
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>>64571028
It's good against units of 10+. It's worse than old warpfire against anything else.
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How popular are Skaven on tabletop? Out of 50 players, how many will be Skaven?

Also, is Carron Empire a good box to start a Skaven army with?
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>>64571028
That's assuming you managed to get all 30 within 8"
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>>64571069
>120/2 mortal wounds against a 30-model unit on average
>good

okay, anon

>>64571096
even if I manage to get only 10 within 8" it's absolutely devastating
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>>64571028
>>64571096

If you're that close to Witch Elves and still alive, that DoK players is probably shit unless you got lucky with a double turn and the DoK player is shit and did not prepare for that.
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>>64571131
>I‘ll take „what is chaff?“ for 500, George
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>>64571072
3-5 will be skaven, on average
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>>64571160
Yeah I am so charging my 30 block of Witches into your chaff so I can end my move next to your powerful hero that will wipe them out. I am incapable of doing anything else, such as going anywhere else on the battlefield or just not committing by strong unit against your garbage only to instantly lose it.
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>>64571197
You forget AoS is an objective game.
You‘re gonna have to attack those clanrats at one point or another.
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>>64567020
you mean the cosmic horrors swimming in the dark beyond reality?
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>>64571218
And Thanqual is a single dude; worse comes to worst, Thanqual will delete that unit. Hopefully, a reasonable DoK didn't just bring Wyches, and can use Morathi or an Avatar of Khaine to counter Thanqual and skewer him, or use spells, prayers and ranged attacks to whittle him down.

Thanqual will probably be a meta-influencer, and force Horde players to be very observant in how they space out their troops, and where Thanqual can get to.

He's very strong, but his biggest weakness is that its a shooting attack, so he can only use it on his turn, and that he is also a single dude, so his power is focused on a small area.
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>>64571218
Sure, but Witches are really fast and have a lot of ability to get around the table. The ability is good, don't get me wrong, but I think you will get a lot more out of it in the opposite situation - removing people from objectives.
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>>64571028
Great art, but you ever think about how every fuckin dude in this game prolly smells like dookie? There is no respite from stank in the mortal realms, at least in 40k there’s the sterile vacuum of space.
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>>64571397
in space the hive can hear you braap
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>>64571397
I've been both to a zoo and in proximity to a MTG FNM, I'm familiar with the smell
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>>64565055
>>64565564
What about Shadows over Hammerhal, is that playable with 2 people as well? I imagine it would be weird if one person had to play all 4 heroes and the other was the game master.
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>>64571397
rats are very clean animals that spend a lot of time grooming, if they weren't they coudln't live in sewers without constantly becoming infected.
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>>64571527
You’re making the assumption that skaven are supposed to based off irl rats and not the common perception of rats
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>>64571554
you're making the assumption you are talking to someone who hasn't already heard that point and not a furry
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New GHB comes out and has these rule changes

>in matched play battalions do not give more artifacts (Battalion costs are rebalanced to compensate)
>in matched play the number of artifacts is determined by the game size
>1 artifact at 1000pt
>2 artifacts at 1500pt
>3 artifacts at 2000pt
>Can't "buy" command points any more
>Instead of taking one of your artifacts you can take a command point (only once)

Yes/no?
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>>64571621
No, that's a really stupid change.
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>>64570656
>spamming the same image
>'''''contribution'''''
fuck off nurgleshit
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>>64571621
No, command points aren't really an issue in AoS, unlike 40k.
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>>64571621
What exactly does this fix? Isn't the biggest issue at tournaments right now the abundance of deep striking and death star units?
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>>64571675
The issue isnt command points, it's artifacts
I think list building would be more fun if you could take more than 1-2 per game, especially since their new design seems to be about forcing armies to take certain artifacts when they select chapter tactics
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>>64570413
you should
its fun
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>64571673
nice contribution
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>>64571733
Yes, the fact you have to maybe sacrifice an artifact to get a benefit is the whole fucking point of it. If you would get 3 artifacts there would be no trade-off/drawback to the benefit
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>>64571554
skaven canonically have a whole slave race of groomers who clean them, so not really. Pestilens is a different matter, but cleanliness is clearly a virtue of status in their society.
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>>64567635
Fuck Gemini’s.
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>>64571757
Right now everyone takes the same realm artifacts because nothing else even comes close.

If you could take 3 artifacts instead of just 1 you would see a lot more variety, since theres usually only 1 good artifact per realm
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>>64570473
I posted it here a week ago, someone with access to the mega put it there.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1LBWSCM3XWLw6e0qGJiLxQ6rPHeSevh2-

Speaking of which, there's tons of chaos dwarves in the varanspire, they could be one of the Warcry warbands.
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>>64571554
The average Skaven is a filthy degenerate
The rich and powerful are still degenerates but go to great lengths to keep themselves clean. Squeak had an entire harem of castrated rats that would clean him and he was nearly obsessive with his cleanliness
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>>64571809
Radical
thanks
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I want to start a death army. I can't decide between NH and FEC, any tips?
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>>64571733
Why can't artefacts cost points like in WHFB? I should be able to spend a fuck ton of points to give my snowflake hero everchosen levels of magical items if I wanted. Same with mounts if there's several warscrolls of the same thing but with different mounts, like lord celestants, chaos lords or freeguild generals. Let the hero be the same and just add the mount rules and point costs.
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>>64571892
>Why can't artefacts cost points like in WHFB?
>I should be able to spend a fuck ton of points to give my snowflake hero everchosen levels of magical items if I wanted.
You just answered your own question my dude

>Let the hero be the same and just add the mount rules and point costs.
Theyre mostly the same, but usually there are some differences like command abilities and keywords. I like this system more.
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>>64571882
What would you rather buy right now, bedsheets or steaks?
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>>64571673
post your cunt
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>>64571944
Bedsheets bro
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>>64571921
>You just answered your own question my dude
Why is it a bad thing? It's my choice if I spend 500 points on a single hero. Let people customize their generic heroes.
>Theyre mostly the same, but usually there are some differences like command abilities and keywords. I like this system more
Some of them have different abilities, most don't. They just have a free mount upgrade you will always take because there's no cost. What I dislike mainly is having 3 different versions of chaos lords each with completely different stats. At least be consistent in weapons, armour save, abilities, etc, even if they have different command abilities and keywords.
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>>64571882
What is your opinion on people of other races
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Starting a new army, should I go with FeC or maggotkin? maggotkin have a added bonus in that I already have a box of plaguebearers
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>>64572026
Maggotkin are geting an SC box soonish possibly March, so hold off unless you want the daemons over mortals.
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>>64571989
>At least be consistent in weapons, armour save, abilities, etc
Nah, just because two heroes have the same rank doesn't mean they are equal in every way
Saurus Oldblood on foot should be different from a Saurus Oldblood riding a Carnosaur
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>>64572069
Then why would you make it a variant of the same hero is you aren't gonna be consistent? 40k does it very well. A space marine captain is a space marine captain, no matter if I put him on a bike, on foot or in a tank.
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>>64566090

so don't take them?

just run hordes of 80 plague monks with a verminlord corruptor
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>>64572099
Why not?
Why does consistency matter in this case?

"I like it" is not an argument
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>>64571452
>MTG FNM
So Ogors?
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>>64572113
What sense does it make to make three versions of something and not have anything in common? Why aren't they other type of hero? For example, a bloodsecrator is't a version of a lord of khorne or a curseling isn't a version of the fate master. If you aren't gonna make it a chaos lord on different mounts, then don't call it a chaos lord on different mounts. It's just needlesly confusing.
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>>64572009

Depends. I am very paranoid and fearful of everything
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>>64571944

I like bedsheets. I get real bad diarrhea from beef
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>>64572185
>What sense does it make to make three versions of something and not have anything in common?
Because its a rank. Two corporals in an army can have the same rank but could have wildly different skills.

>It's just needlesly confusing
Maybe if youre a fucking idiot
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>>64572064
is it generally frowned upon to use both mortals and daemons together? i thought daemons made good bubblewrap for your better stuff and were useful to park on objectives?
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>>64572284
No, you are supposed to play them together. Mainly taking mortals and summoning the daemons.
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>>64571971
>>64572232
Nighthaunt, then.
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>>64564762
Am I the only one disappointed by this? I hoped that we'd get proper Sylvaneth females in the warband and not this... Whatever this is...
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Looking forward to using a sword of judgement deathmaster to shit on enemy heroes, 100 points to delete any mid to low tier hero.
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>>64564762
>Does the OP need to be updated further?
What else do we need?
We have an official website for newcomers.
We have the FW Compendiums for that one guy that still plays with FW shit.
Man, the resources pastebin is dated as fuck but I guess the pastebin Anon is dead.
Megas? They are fine, keep them. Just change the title for "AoS and Warhammer Underworlds blah blah blah"
Remove the Nightvault rulebook - it's already added to the first Mega.
Tools are fine.
TQ is fine as well :3
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>>64572376
Hahaha fucking moron waifu fags.
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>>64572376
theyre trees
they dont have gender
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>>64572376
Shadow elves and light elves are going to look very different too no doubt denying waifu faggots who be mad lol.
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>>64572376
Hey could be worse, faces don't look too manish.
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>>64570473
>Fucking put Scourge of Fate in the Mega
Stand by at Mega since 3rd Feb, fuck you.
Gods and Mortals is ready too.
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Phill Kelly talking about inception of AoS, freely shitting on WFB but treating the shitshow that was the launch of AoS and the reception of Stormcast with kiddy gloves.

Asshat.
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>>64572527
He's essentially retconning godbeasts now, saying that they were 'colourful stories' that people might tell, and they weren't necessarily true.

No shame.
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>>64572026
Always Chaos, so yess Maggotkin
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>>64572509
Any chance you have pic related?
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>>64572575
'It was Sigmar's propaganda' - talking about how Stormcast were presented and the stories were told.

NO SHAME.
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>Skryre fags on tga whining about stormfiends
kek. Most autistic clan for sure
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>>64572644
Why? Im scared of them with my gobbos. They melt hordes, probably the best horde killing units in the entire game.
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>>64572660
they're whining that without cheese strats stormfiends have no role in rat armies
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>>64572575
>>64572602
Can we fucking please tell the kirby era shit shitposters this shit isn't canon anymore?
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>>64572688
Per Phil Kelly, I say yes. Its shameful. They present it as 'evolution' and 'growth' when its terrible storytelling with terrible art being shoved into the bin.
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>>64572575
GG is the newest battletome and it features a godbeast.
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>>64572527
hwhat? link to this? sounds hilarious.
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>>64572735
I meant the storyline in realmgate wars.
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>>64572753
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KS8xwZsrmoE&t
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>>64572719
That's the price of living during the transition period Anon. Both Wfb and 40k were full of stupid shit as well. The difference is GW can't fix AoS step by step - they need to rewrite whole sections of the lore.
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>>64572719
Good fucking riddance to it.
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>>64572719
Why shameful? It's a pretty elegant way out of this PR mess the early lore was. Obviously they aren't just going to shit on themselves/their colleagues on an official corporate production.
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>>64572770
I can't fucking stand that wade faget
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Here's your new thread.

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>>64569997
Nah they'll soup the Malerion and Hyish Elves, they're genuinely allied after all unlike Morathi who does her own thing now.
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>>64570130
TWWII's faction choices are a little baffling, they have fucking vampire pirates but not Ogres, who actually had an army book back in the day.
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>>64572982
Dark Lands should be the location of game 3, Mountains of Mourn are there too, but yeah, they be milking the fantasy fans.
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>>64572408
Jesus Christ, how do you even counter that
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>>64572527
[citation needed]
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>>64569019
Old starter box at least, then try to get 2-3 slaughterpriests on ebay, reddit or trade sites.

AS far as daemons go you'll want some Bloodletters and Flesh Hounds for summoning - you don't fight with these boy but instead use them to contest/steal objectives toward late game. Wrath and Rapture is a decent place to get them from if you can find someone to either sell you the Khorne half or split the cost with you. Start Collecting: Khorne Daemons is also decent but has no Flesh Hounds, which are very very VERY useful for Khorne in the current meta - very mobile, have an innate spell unbind, can get pumped via Bloodsecrator for a decent amount of attacks, on the cheap-ish side to field.

After all of that; get two Bloodthirsters, bare minimum you'll want a Wrath of Khorne and Insensate Rage Bloodthirster. These two are like the Gork and Mork of Khorne daemons and play off of each other obscenely well. The Wrath of Khorne Bloodthirster can let the Insensate Rage run and charge (with bonuses!) on the same turn, then you use the Bloodstoker from your starter set to make him charge even further. Put the Ghyrstrike artefact on the Insensate Rage and watch him nuke the center of your opponent's army like an ICBM. Ignore Skarbrand for now, he's kind of shit - too slow and fragile..

Finally, and this is up to taste really, round it out with some Skullcrushers and Skullreapers/Wrathmongers. The Skullreapers/Wrathmongers are in general good at killing, with the Reapers being the better pick for an indepent unit and the Wrathmongers being better suited to buffing the rest of your army while they smash faces (remember- this is an army focused on managing synergistic buffs and dominating movement by forcing your opponent to move toward you/spending Blood Tithe to move your models out of sequence!)
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>>64572466
Incels scared of women.
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>>64573874
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I warn you now that the Skullcrushers are only good with a big monetary investment, meaning you'll want at least one Lord of Khorne on a Juggernaut and 3x3 Skullcrushers, but preferrably 7x3 Skullcrushers so you can max out your Brass Stampede battalion. They're very pillowfisted without this battalion and Lord support so I would not commit to them unless you're commited - though if it helps at all, a Khorne list using Brass Stampede placed in the top 10 at the Las Vegas Open AoS tournament. Khorne isn't the best army but smart, tactical movement, target priorities and list building will make them shine.



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