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this is for you /40kg/.regards /kpg/
I grew up with DoW and I'm disappointed they changed the fire prism.
Why can Tau give supporting fire during overwatch but Skittles cannot?
I intentionally make bad choices during list building and gameplay and you can't stop me
>>63992436I also dig the massive giant crystal
>>63992438half of them are constantly running windows updates anyway, it's hard to coordinate
>>63992436I was disappointed to learn Tacticals can’t have five special/heavy weapons, splitfire (at the time) and that chainswords weren’t the rape machines the cut scenes showed them to be.
>>63992438That's their gimmick
>>63992444>makes somewhat competent list>anon starts complaining about waacfagsPlease don’t
S-stop mocking Abaddon and Haarken. They're d-dangerous threats meant to be taken seriously!
>>63992436I dunno anon, so did I and when I saw the actual model I thought it looked a million times better that way.
>>63992481>launches 235th campaign
Are you guys hype for the Black Legion codex?
>>63992436Just bought this one for 20 bucksCant wait, though I'll have to find another one probably
I have returned to block your path, /40kg/.>blocks your path
>>63992513I'm hype for any bone they feel like throwing me
>>63992513Yes so I can take the models and make them into best legion.
>>63992527Get the FUCK out of my way!
>>63992513Hyped for new models.
>>63992436Old model was a fucking bitch to put together and would fall apart if bumped in a bad way, shit didn't fit together like it should have and I actually got green stuff for the first time to fix that shitty kit (was 14/15 at the time and it would piss me off everytime considering how much I paid for the model). New one also had the plastic crystals which you could color with the translucent paint, the new turret and frame are also high speed if you ask me which is a plus.
>>63992470Skittles are networked. Tau just have laser pointers and stinky leadership.
>>63992513>the sudden implication that we are getting an Ultramarines CodexNo...
Can I shop buy in "online only" stuff off the GW website at their special shop prices and give me the normal saving on it? Or will they get charged full price and thus charge me full price for it, making it pointless?
>>63992563Metal and plastic sucks but I hate the long barrel of the new one more. Plus i love using my models as weapons if the time requires it
>>63992513No, as each time GW release something for marines, someone that actually enjoys the hobby dies
How can we turn this guy into a plaguecaster besides just throwing a plasma gun on him? My collection needs more tentacles.
>>63992583Dumb xeno poster
>>63992570K, doesn't matter. It's a Tau gimmick
>>63992588>implying it’s not a marine player
>>63992513>Are you hyped for incessant whiningNo
Your opinion on these faggots?>Imperiumfags>Chaosfags>Aeldarifags>Taufags>Orkfags>Nidfags>Necronfags
>>63992577"a shop" not "I shopdurr
>>63992421thank you qt
Questionair!!!You are an Ork Warboss, and you and your boyz came across a crash-landed Thunderhawk. After looting it, what would your mob do with it?>[A] Use the RX-92-00 Mars pattern, combination rocket/afterburning turbofans as DAKKA>[B] Konvert it into a Battlefortress>[C] Konvert it into a Kustom Aircraft>[D] Konvert it into a Stompa>[E] Konvert it into a Pulsa Rokkit>[F] A cross between all the above>[G] ???
>>63992513Very much so, yes. I can't wait to replace and throw half my army into the trash because it's made in finecast.
>>63992616Fags will be fags, but orkfags went from the best to the worst on my list this year
>>63992616I hate you the most
>>63992616>>ImperiumfagsBased >>ChaosfagsGay>>AeldarifagsGayer>>TaufagsGayest>>OrkfagsStill pretty damn gay>>NidfagsI don't have opinions on NPCs>>NecronfagsThey're ok
>>63992513Yes! I hope the Blackstone Models get released at least.
>>63992646>falling for the fake ork players
>>63992659Remember all those shills who bought mountains of buggies and we haven't heard a peep from them since?
>>63992616>ImperiumfagsDepends on the player >ChaosfagsDepends on the player >AeldarifagsDepends on the player >TaufagsDepends on the player >OrkfagsDepends on the player >NidfagsDepends on the player >NecronfagsDepends on the player
>>63992577"Special shop prices"Huh?
>>63992584You should get and use a terminator sorcerer instead. It's cheaper, can actually hold his own in close range unlike plaguecaster and is generally way more useful.
>>63992642What's wrong with finecast? Is it fragile or what's the problem?
>>63992672I can't even imagine the buyers remorse they are feeling right now.
>>63992616They all make me want to kms
>>63992656They're still manlets compared to the real Chads of 40k.
>>63992706what do you mean?
>>63992697Pic related is your average finecast miniature. Now imagine this with all the detail on csm armor like for Obliterators. Half of csm range including the majority of the characters are like that.
>>63992769Fuck off back to /v/
>>63992697>Fragile>Always comes warped>Paint chips easily>Flash everywhere>Needs cleaning before getting painted>BubblesAny of the above. Metal is superior.
>>63992776So you end up buying lots of green stuff, I take it?
>>63992766>he is so pathetic in real life that he has to self-express through plastic miniatures to be a """"chad""""Sad!
>>63992616An unbecoming mess the lot of them.
>>63992694they don't buy at the same prices as us normal folk, or they wouldn't be able to make a profit
>>63992794Are you retarded or just never worked with 40k miniatures before?
All boxed sets that GW have released this last year were excellent
>>63992812I love the part where they got shut down like a month later!
>>63992703>Spoops your dudes
If you could switch one primarch/legion from traitor to loyalist and vice virsa, who would you pick?
>>63992877>Traitor to loyalistDark Angels >Loyalist to traitorAlpha Legion
>>63992877Girlyman to chaos for the alpha legion shenanigans everyone knows deep down they want Fulgrim (clone?) loyalist just cuz
>>63992877Guilliman to Renegade and Magnus to Loyalist
Tyranid Ad leads directly to Steam's front page.Why must this be on topic?
>>63992616>ImperiumfagsThey're okay. Guardfags are a blight.>ChaosfagsAnnoying but at least the armies are fun to fight.>AeldarifagsElves a shit.>TaufagsFlat out annoying unless they do something besides gunline.>OrkfagsAlways a good time with them, except when they're trying to be epic memers.>NidfagsObnoxious twits or cool dudes in it for the monster aesthetic. No inbetween.>NecronfagsThey're okay.
>>63992850>Implying /mydudes/ care about moraleThose are bold words for a man in slingshot range
>>63992877IW loyalist/IH traitorsSo the setting can make a little more sense
>>63992899So you want nothing to change then?
>>63992926I dunno m8 they got pretty spooked in that short story from WD This month.
>>63992977Is YongYea a Heretic?
>>63992877I like the Loyalists, so it is a tough oneProbably Raven guard to chaos and Alpha legion for loyalMaybe Children for Iron hands
Sadly it doesn't look like GSC pre-orders will be announced this weekend, as there are Nightvault Warbands (or something) being announced instead.
>>63992986Hes a clickbaiting fucktard who artifically extends videoes to get ad revenue while just reading an article and adding in buzzwords, as well as not checking his facts half the time and sometimes lyingSo yes
Gonna have my first proper games of 40k in a couple of months tomorrow, will be good to put team dreads and friends to the test.What are your weekend hobby plans?
>>63992436I was sad to see stealth suits weren't invincible units to be spamed and break the game.
>>63992986Yeah, hes pretty much a news reporter (grabs articles, reads them, adds his own take and over exaggerates) but with clickbait.His first popular videos were on Andromeda, and to be fair, they were quite good as he went into detail from his own analysis on how faces should be modelled and why Andromeda failed so hard, but he cant do that for every popular news source so now hes doing retarded shit like throwing fits over canvas=nylon bags, as if any fucker actually bought the special edition for the random ass canvas bag instead of the helmet (which IS of good quality). Yeah it sucks Bethesda fucked up the bags, but it REALLY isnt a big deal, just whiny faggots whipped into a rage by over exaggerators like Yong.
>>63993079I shall finish painting a squad of infantry, go to the store, stomp or get stomped, then go home and gorge on leftover pizza.
Anyone else want to bang Louise Sugden?
Besides chapter tactics, relics, and stratagems. I would like to see the return of unique units for each chapter/legion.from the HH line.For instance UM's with axes, fire drakes, etc etc etc
>>63993079PaintGo to the store and buy a warlord titan with a free epic sprue, rubric marines, and a pot of agraxHopefully play a gameTest my candy apple red spray
>>63993079I just had a nice game of Ultramarines vs World Eaters, World Eaters managed to win by taking objectives and stop my guys from getting any by charging my lines. I tabled him, but because Acceptable Causalities is a thing now he won by 2 points.
>>63992513>Hyped for Black Legion becoming a gunblob hugging Abby for rerolls to hit/wound everything...but in melee.Nope.
>>63993111Luck to ya m8! Seems like your doing pretty well!
>>63992527>Toughest armor ever made.>Dies to a pair of mortal wounds.>Heavy bolters and autocannons chew through it.
>>63993149>two autogun shots from a single cultist get lucky and end the centuries old veteran wearing a tank.
So does anyone have Forgebane? I'm getting it half and half with a buddy who plays Necrons. Which of us is getting the better deal? Are there options in the set for turning the Rangers into Vanguard, or will I have to try and trim down their guns/go to a bits site?
>>63993169The AdMech Ranger kit IS the Vanguard kit too. Its one of the best kits for this as you have all the heads and options needed for 10 Ranger or 10 vanguard, or 5 of each or as many as you need of each.Also, the AdMech player by FAR is getting the better deal.
>>63993149Terminators rise up!
>>63992436God this makes me feel like such a kid, I picked up a eldar army off a guy who was quitting, and I thought this was some OOP weapon, never clicked it was turned into that.
>>63992877All unannounced loyalists are now traitors. Guilliman all alone vs the world.
>>63993184Nice. I knew the Rangers and Vanguard were the same kit, but I wasn't sure if it would haveall of the kit in it, or if it was it was on two different sprues and only the Rangers sprue was in the set.Question, which is better TAC, Vanguard or Rangers?
>>63993104Honestly he always felt more like a watered down Jim Sterling to me. Almost literally in that he says all the same things but in a way that’s more palatable for consumers who don’t like hearing someone shit on their favorite developer. He’s also a lot “safer” with his messages in that he never seems to make predictions about the trajectory of the industry, and of course he’s just blander in general; dropping the self-absorbed narssesism of sterling and adding nothing. Which is good if you hate Jim Sterling which many of us do.We need someone like him for Tabletop gaming DESU. Most of our options right now are a bit shill-y for my taste.
>>63993111Can you Draw the Fem Magus?
>>63993235I'd reccomend Vanguard, a single point extra but give -1 toughness in melee (which is good with your Armigers) and deal much more damage than Rangers will because of their 3 shots compared to 1/2. Also, dont trust the rules in forgebane, they are out of date, grab the AdMech codex PDF, Chapter Approved PDF and battlescribe for the up to date rules and point costs.You could also go 1, 5 man ranger squad with sniper, and 1 5 man vanguard squad with 1 plasma if you like special weapons and want variety.
>>63993197Alright matt calm down.
>>63992436Just cut the barrel and add the tiny crystal to the end of the big crystal.
>>63993243>We need someone like him for Tabletop gaming DESU. Most of our options right now are a bit shill-y for my taste.The closest things to a Tabletop Equivalent to YongYea (to my knowledge are the following)...The Outer Circle, and Commisar Gamza to a lesser extent.
>>63992438Skittles don't fall 9ver and present their blueberry buttholes the moment someone actually makes it into melee
>>63993322>The Outer CircleBased.
>>63993243>Honestly he always felt more like a watered down Jim Sterling to me>We need someone like him for Tabletop gaming DESUfuck off and fuck off back to /v/
>>63993149No joke, every infantry beyond light troops like guardsmen and eldar guardians should get an extra wound. Having 2W doesn't matter if weapons with 2+ damage and high RoF are fucking everywhere
>>63992634Grounded vehicle, with wheels or tracks, using the rockets as huge ass skorchas in the "front". Cockpit is raised as the command tower in the back. Possibly with some mechanical arms or spikes that hold it to the ground when firing those so it doesn't go flying backwards.
>>63993189>tfw hh is deadI liked 30k alpha legion :(
Strength from Death needs to be reworked in the same manner as Acts of Faith. Double activations are inherently unbalanced. Nix all the "shoot/fight twice" stratagems too while you're at it.
>>63992672I had five of the old Ork Buggies. I still field them in larger games even though they are outclassed by deffkoptas for 3 points less now (though they do have 1 more wound). I could convert them into the new buggies, but I have the new kits anyway, so I'm OK with keeping them as is. I also use them to replace the cardboard buggies in the Gretchinz! game.
>>63993417>Nix all the "shoot/fight twice" stratagems too while you're at it.I spam cultists and I still want this.
>>63993418How’s the grot game?
>>63993417>i suck at the game the postSad
>>63993079Finish assembling Bjorn, play a game with him and my friend's tau vs a tyranid player and his little brother's deamon. Sunday I'm going to the store with a friend who's starting to collect deamons + csm he's not buying csm just yet. He wants to wait and see if they get any updates in the coming year
>>63993384You don’t think we need critical reporters keeping an eye on the industrial giants and reporting when they fuck us over?What kind of consumerist zombie are you?>>63993322The only issue I have with the outer circle is that he’s pretty limited to GW and Horus Heresy in particular. That’s fine if you’re exclusively a GW customer, but I’d like someone to keep an eye on the TTG scene as a whole, not just one company.
>>63993417Waacfags will never agree, although a few unique fight twice unit abilities sprinkled across the game is fine
>>63993322>Commisar GamzaYou mean the guy who directly steals threads from /tg/ for video ideas?
What the fuck is this lump of cancerous shit and why does it have my drawing on it?https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Kabal_of_the_last_word
>>63993480Give me one example where he has ACTUALLY done this.
>>63993303>wanting more loyalist primarchs to come backThe deamon primarch models look great and don't break the lore. More loyalist primarchs opens the door for more changes to the setting.
>>63993477>The only issue I have with the outer circle is that he’s pretty limited to GW and Horus Heresy in particular. That’s fine if you’re exclusively a GW customer, but I’d like someone to keep an eye on the TTG scene as a whole, not just one company.I agree, GeeDubs isn't the only one having issues (e.g. refusing to give the Marinelet Chaplain a really available plastic model). But, there are also bigger fish to fry (e.g. Milton Bradly).
>>63993505Why did they shorten it? Was 1d4channel too long? Who made this site?
>>63993478Anyone that says SoB single double shooting or at max double movement was broken. Clearly never faced or played against SoB. The other possibility is that he suck so much at the same that even Genestealers make him shake in fear
Local restricted tourney is coming up and I wanted to know how fucked I'd be with this list>Restrictions>1 detachment>Imperium/chaos allegience allowed>Missions are randomized CA Eternal War >Annoited Throng brigade [11cp]>HQAbdominant: annoited throng WL/relicMagus: Might from beyondPrimus>Troops2x5 acolyte hybrids: 2x rock saw4x10 neophyte hybrids>Elites2x10 hammerants w/2 metamorphs15 purestrain genestealers>Fast attackCult armored sentinel: lascannon2x1 cult scout sentinels: autocannon>Heavy supportCult leman Russ: twin autocannon + HB Sponsons2x Goliath rockgrinders: heavy seismic cannons, cache of demo charges2000/2000
>reading Fabius books>not shitty marine wank>not shitty chaos gods dick sucking>just stories of broken people doing their own thing>insight into thoughts of traitor legionsWHERE ARE MORE STORIES LIKE THISTELL ME
>>639935481d4chan has been around for years. It's a fan site dedicated to basically serving as a wiki for /tg/ related shit. It's alright, especially the pages for 40k and Tactics (which is reviews and breakdowns of the different armies and units/gear/etc), though the Tactics pages are always a bit optimistic for my taste.
>>63993555Wow anon you've convinced me
>>63993594Looking through the site now. Is this the kind of culture we want 4channel associated with? Hiro, our website's founder, should sue.
>>63993605>oh and Peachy
>>63993605Every time I see Duncan's hair I also see Brendan Fraser's JUST meme pic
I recently (and by recently i mean in August) picked up the space marine start collecting box for my first army. I started painting them as Carcharodons and my friend got me the Carcharodons Chapter Master from Forge World and I picked up a box of Scout Snipers and a Terminator Librarian a few days ago. My current list isTyberos the Red WakeTerminator CaptainTerminator LibrarianVenerable Dreadnought10 man Tactical Squad with Meltagun and Rocket Launcher5 man Scout Sqaud with Snipers and Rocket Launcher.What units should I add to my list to make it a more complete army?
>>63993548>t. newfagjesus, so new, much gay
>>63993589Read short stories and one offs. Remorseless and Honor among Fiends are both good chaos stories
>>63993620Oh, it was a ruse all along
>>63993633It will happen to you too one day
>>63993605> Oh, and Peachy
Who's Still Buying Finecast?
>>63993634your list is pretty top heavy (lots of points imto HQs)so you might want to get some devistators and a few more scouts so you can build a batallion
>>63993634What points level are you aiming to play at?
>>63993586>1 detachment for a 2k. So Brigade or bust?
>>63993609Anon units that could use the double movementT3 W1 that moved 12 and had Pistols with range 6” the double movement necessary to even use of the bloody thingsDouble shooting with that? Heavy Bolters? Sure cool so overpower. Oh you mean the meltaguns? The unit that needs to spend the entire enemy turn at range of their meltaguns without shooting, some how survive and while also need a dumb enough opponent to leave something in melta range.So over power!
>>63993586Completley fucked, some bullshit chaos/imperium combo will ruin you
>>63993586you'll want to bulk out the acholyte squads: trust me, 5 t3 5+ bodies means you wont survive the overwatch to get to use your fancy saws
>>63993719Pretty sure we have one /madlad/ doing a custodes patrol for the memeAside from that, most likely aside from our local knigger whose gonna be doing a superheavy
>>63993680I bought the warpsmith. It took three refunds but GW finally sent me a decent one.
>>63993589All four night lords booksEisenhorn trilogy
>>63993586>Imperium/chaos allegience allowedwat? how? why?
>>63993744>Chaos/imperium superfriends>No strategems>No AAIDK, he might be okay
>>63993762TO thinks that the lack of allegiance abilities and strategems will neuter unalligned detachments
>>63993758>Eisenhorn trilogyread>night lordsIs omnibus fine?
>>63992795>N-n-no......Y-yo-you!The absolute state of chaos Manley's!
>>63993789>oblits along side crawl bots and maybe a blootletter bombuh
>>63993282im the guy that drew a lot of the recent fem magus stuff. like this one
Anyone else find that instead of shitting themselves and panic buying Primaris, that they actually dug their heels in and dedicated themselves more to Marines?
friendly reminder that the tau'va is a giant lie that boils down to the ethereals forcing all t'au to obey them under the threat of a vague politico-historical boogeyman called the "mont'ka" that has been proven to not automatically happen whenever you disobey them, and that constantly subjugating psychic races to fuel the Empire will most likely lead to it being consumed by Chaos, which, unlike the loose threat of barbarism and civil unrest, is a very real thing.Also Aun'Va is a bad special effect.
>>63993633Someone photoshop the JUST eyes onto Duncan
How long after AoS 1st ed release was 2nd ed? Could we get 9th edition this year?
>>63993705I don't really know. Ive mostly played with power level maybe like 1500? Whats the average point value for play?>>63993694I was thinking of picking up some assault marines and terminiators and dropping the terminator captian. Should I try for scouts with snipers again or the other set of scouts. Also how many tactial squads is enough?
>>63993762To remind xenos cucks that they're temporary guests.
>>63993853But the real question is will you do more?
>>63993820What? No, when u said imperium/chaos allegience I meant your armies common keyword can be either <imperium> or <chaos> even though Chapter approved disallows itAlso non double firing obliterators, bloodletters in general, and cawlbots without WoM are a joke with no punchline
>>63993742Begone waacfag, no matter how much you try and cover it up double activations are inherently borked
>>63993874i will be
>>63993876>>63993898the duckface lips are outta control
>>63993884>inherently broken>post 3 example showing they are notGuess you do not play?
>>63992877Thousand sons to loyalistIron hands to traitors
>>63993905Your examples proved nothing more than your own delusion
>>63993876>>63993111Lov the 80's 90's feel to it
>>63993940does it have any?
>>63993904hmmm, not my intention, ill try to work on it
>>63993932Wut?Please give me an example of Index SoB double movement or Shooting that was broken.
>>63993953cute tumblroid mystery meat
>>63993949I meant the style they're drawn like some good ol' cartoons
>>63993856I've got a focused primaris force with triple intercessors, triple hellblasters, 2 aggressors, a Redemptor, and triple scouts.I feel less entertained and less like it's *my* dudes than I do when using my old marines force from the same chapter.
>>63993953No, do it more! Duckface lips are my thing!
>>63993953I like your shit, dude. Nice work.
>>63993911>Iron hands to traitorsLiterally already a thing.
>>63993970that's not an identifiably 80s or 90s style
>>63993961It's not about that retard, and you know it. It propped them up as an index army and made them stronger than almost any other, and stronger than some codexes. Now that they have stratagems if they had maintained those rules they would be fucking broken, stop being intentionally stupid
>>63993800Omnibus is good and its own story but they make regular reference to the character in the other book and its one of my favourite black library books periodLord of the Night is the title, dont know how hard it is to find nowThere are also the Ravenor books if you enjoyed Eisenhorn
>>63993853Can you post a png file?
>>63994023>please give and example of double phases being broken>it’s not about that!>it’s about stratagems that didn’t exist when they had extra phaseWhat did he mean by this?
>>63993853So it's your fucking fault I have to see this absolute trash 9 times a day?
>>63994061Celestine double movement was broken when taking her as a solo ally for other imperial armies
How do you paint orange plasma effect? For some reason GW hadn't cover it yet with any guide.
>>63994085>Celestine Broken>the model that does not see tournament play
>>63994061Doubls activation was broken in context of its release retard, it was broken as fuck compared to the other indexes it was made alongside. It would be broken again if it got folded into the beta.
Has Citadel's resin QC gotten better since 2011, or are Spikey Bits and Daniel Sprinkle sold out to GeeDubs?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XUtIJNCJTUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV1qvQgHXPc
>>63994091You're kidding right? No one is this stupid, that's easy as balls
>>63994076>Assmad puritan Cute
>>63994108>it's another anon who needs tournament results to tell him whats good or notThat explains it
>>63994085I haven’t seen Celestine as a soup component since BA and Knights are a thing, even back then it was not seen much. Girlyman was better soup ingredient than CelestineWhat the hell are you talking about?
>>63994091Base bright whiteWash orangeLooks better that that imhopink plasma is best
>>63994108She used to see it before detachment rules changes and ITC rules fucking her over
>>63994144In casual play even tactical marines can look op and broken.
>>63994140The funny part is I actually have a MEGA folder for this exact situation. Nice.
>>63994091Tyey already did that in blue, do why not look back at that video (linked below) and use the orange counterparts to the blues used in the vid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpSVZiYLuPY
>>63994162Do you really want to make that argument or are you just trying to be facetious?
>>63994170where's the joke
>>63994140boobs need to be larger, but not utterly separated like independent balloons like that one retarded picture which made people argue about eyebrows
>>63994154And she was not used for double moving. So I’m not sure what the hell is that guy talking about
>>63994118Any finecast kit made specifically for resin is usually spot on, but the only ly one I can think of being that way is Sly marboOtherwise, yeah, new finecast stuff is generally okay to fine, worst I've seen lately were some bubbles on a cape
>>63994177Well if you are not looking at competive play, balance is hardly an issue. Just ask your opponent not to use certain things
>>63994153Thought about Jokaero orange, bloodletter glaze, fire dragon bright highlights and finish with white scar in corners
>>63994191>celestine being able to move across the board in a turn wasnt part of her appeallol
>>63992812>Primaris V. Eldar >Primaris V. GSC >both of those released within 2 months and the only new things were HQ units outside of Abherrants Forgebane was the only actual good boxset, Speed Freeks was ok at best.
>>63994215Tournament play is not the end all be all of balance, it is mostly people endlessly repeating netlists because they don't have an in depth understanding about what makes the game workA tournament player will tell you deathwatch is bad because they have low placings and then get swept by a competitive mono Deathwatch list
>>63994226>has no idea how tournaments play the post
>>63994076yes, sorry>>63994140>>63994187those are also mine
>>63994240Then you are bitching about bad players, not about mechanics.
>>63994240>tournament players>the creators of netlists>who practice and numbercrunch all year>they just copy their own netlistsNice to see people pushing the boundaries for what it means to be stupid.
>>63992616They're all preferable to shits like you who don't even play the game.
>>63993961>Celestine leaping 2’ and stabbing your warlord in the back of the head>Seraphim leaping 2’ and melting a vehicle/warlord with Inferno pistols>Abusing Martyrdom to shoot during the charge phase, etc.
>>63994273No, I'm telling you mechanics can be broken even if they aren't showing up constantly in tournaments.Double activation is broken and should not be nearly as common as it is
>>63994282Maybe 10% of people attending a tournament are capable of innovation, everyone else follows the crowd.
>>63994241>How to out yourself as being clueless -the post
>>63993999You're thinking of iron warriors, dummy
How would you fix a not so great unit in your army?>Reivers >Move to Troops and allow sarge +1 guy access to power weapons/fists
IMPFIST UPGEADE SPRUE SOLD SEPERATELY WHEN?
>>63994108she did though until the rules for allies changed.
>>63994285>Celestine leaping 2’ and stabbing your warlord in the back of the headNever happens unless you are retarded>Seraphim leaping 2’ and melting a vehicle/warlord with Inferno pistolsLiterally how? Even with 30” effective range they won’t hit anything worth hitting turn one>Abusing Martyrdom to shoot during the charge phase, etc.AoF happen before the movement phase. You need to be positioned and stay in position. If some how you manage to pull it off your opponent is retarded
Where can I get storm bolters for my DW vets?
>>63994321>cultists >4 points
>>63994321>Rough riders+1 attack or WS3+Maybe T4 to account for the horses?
How do we flesh out the Ork, Tau and Necron faction
>>63994356First two are fine, necrons should be squatted
>>63994321>Baal Predator:>allow it to advance and fire heavy weapons
>>63994321I'd like Chaos Raptors to have +1 Attack on charges and for Chaos Chosen to have 2 wounds each to make them equivalent to Primaris.
>>63994356Faction keyword 《XENOS》
>>63994317Yeah, you do get a free upgrade to a better aesthetic, well noticed.
>>63994321Flamestorm Gauntlets 10" range
>>63994376I was thinking about it the other day, having chosen get +1 W as a sort of "gifted by the warp" thing would be great.
>>63994408>*deepstrikes 23.9" away anyway*
>>63994321Give Iron Hands back THEIR FUCKING STACKING FnP GOD DAMNIT.>>63994372Speaking of Predators, I play Iron Hands, so I have the Machine Empathy Strategem. Is it worth it to pick up a Predator? The autocannon one specifically.
>>63992379New chaos walker?
>>63994197So, are you saying Finecast (at least the latest stock being sold on GW's online store) is not as bad as the Memes make them out to be?
>>63994334Celestine could quite literally be anywhere on the table by turn 2. Your opponent would need a unit that’s fast and can murder her in a single turn as a counter.Dominions are the SoB Alpha strike unit. Seraphim are for beta striking.>AoF happen before the movement phaseMartyrdom is explicitly out of sequence.
>>63994458>for Black Legion only
>>63994321>Hellions11-12ppm. They’re pretty decent otherwise. Maybe the ability to choose either -1AP OR D2 when attacking to give a bit more utility.>IncubiAdvance and charge, min squad size back down to 3.I kinda wish Liquifier guns weren’t shit, too. I wish I could take an ossefactor on my Haemonculus.Cronos weapons could use a little bump, too.
>>63994421It would be pretty neat, plus it would give Chaos a on paper version of Primaris without them actually being Primaris.
>>63994338He said “not so great” not “make the best unit you have better”
I'm working on my retro csm army since all csm manlet models gonna be retro with the upcoming BL release. For now I'm assembling my two start collecting boxes but I'm not sure what should I do with those two helbrutes. I like this kit and the model is groovy but I feel like converted ven dreads would fit better the "old shit" theme. Also kitbashing and modeling all those weapon options should be easy since they are sharing most of them. On the other hand I think that the helbrute nailed the csm aesthetic really well and will work better with any modern bits than the old boxnought. W-what's your opinion Anon? I just can't fucking decide.
>>63992697Although I think I did an okay job with the paint, the mini still looks fucked cause of how shit fine casting is. Some parts are still warped, chips and bubbles all over and this is despite spending over an hour "fixing" it with green stuff and fileling.
>>63994334>if you were a retardYeah, screening is great against Fly
>>63994464A whole lot of the current range of finecast is recast from the old metal, as in the master is copied from a model, not a machined mould made from a cad file.These metal recasts are the ones with big issues, and when finecast first game out, those were the whole range.
>>63994535>implying it matters with proper position and screens
>>63994321>Leman Russ Vanquisher>give it two types of ammo again>AP shell: S9, AP-4, melta damage, reroll to wound vehicles>HE shell: S7, AP-2, D2 (or same as battle tank)>increase cost of gun to 30 or 40 pts.
>>63994519my opinion is you should finish your deathwatch
>>63994472Are you mixing Beta and Index?Because Index happen before movement phase
>>63994458Oh I fucking hope so. I'm not gonna lie, i'm kinda hype about this Black Legion revamp lads.
>>63994246Shit, thank you Anon - your content is sweet ask fuck. Mind to draw something chaos marine flavoured?
>>63994511Fine!>Chaos Space Marines>+1W>-1AP>+6 range
>>63994519See if you can pick up an actual old chaos dreadnought? Bonus is that you can use it to best opponents to death because it's metal. You can often find them on eBay for less than £20, and they're the same size as box dreads even today.
>>63994345Make lances optional and give them access to melta-bombs like they used to in 4e.
>>63994321Give the Leman Russ exterminator the predator autocannon, not just a twin regular one.
>>63994558But I don't play deathwatch except 5 dudes I bought for KT
>>63994604What does the predator autocannon do?
Is there a "Citadel to Others" paint colour conversion chart? I want to start slowly replacing all my shitadel paints with better ones while keeping some kind of consistency in the colours.
>>63994604Also nerf the Punisher, so the Exterminator gets better by comparison.
>>63994553That would actually be neat
>>63994321>terminators>armour saves are performed on a 2d6 pick highest result
>>63994624>Is there a "Citadel to Others" paint colour conversion chart? I want to start slowly replacing all my shitadel paints with better ones while keeping some kind of consistency in the colours.Yes, but is a bit outdated.
>>63994321Sanguinary Guard>+1W WS2or>5++Either way their sword and axe weapons need to be cheaper and their bolt gun should be free or like... 1ptBaal Predators>Let their stratagem allow them to shoot heavy weapons after advancing.
>>63994356Give the Necrons a more consistent tone and personality. I played Mechanicus recently and the Necron's portrayal there was a hell of a lot more interesting and compelling than in the codex.
>>63994519If you like the new helbrutes more then just use those.If you want to go proper oldskool then the metal dreads like >>63994585 suggested. Converting boxnauts is a pain in the dick and doesn't really capture the "oldskool" feel even though everyone did it for decades.If you want to be a patrician find a recaster that does Mk.IV Legion dreads.
>>63994623See pic>>63994629Also a punisher makes a stormlord redundant right now for anti-horde, even more when you consider it costs almost 3 times as much.
>>63994685No u, it's a shitty suggestion. Can't be batch rolled
>>63994634Or just let them reroll failed armour saves. Less clunky when rolling multiple saves at once.
Trying to do a casual tournament with friends. How busted is bringing eldar soup? Is soul burst still good? Thinking of bringing shining spears mostly.
>>639938652 years.but age of sigmar launched as a dumpster fire so i doubt they would update 8th after 2 years. maybe a 8.5ed might show up
>>63994634Rerollable save would be better, since you can do batch.
>>63994601>melta-bombsThey're like 3" range meltas nowadays.
>>63994711>Rerolls happen before modifiers>Rend still fucks them in the assTerrible change
>>63994458Could be a new Defiler sculpt. The old model is from like 3rd edition and looks awful. Nice catch though.
>>63994321>GargoylesMove to troops. Fixed.
>>63994634>2D6 pick the highestNigga just give them re-rolls, statistically it's identical because it all gets fed through a pass/fail filter anyway; it's not like you're re-rolling passed saves and hoping for a higher result, nor regretting a re-roll that still failed but is a lower number now.
>>63994743>terminator are now only vulnerable to APGood change.
>>63994569I might. What did you have in mind?
>>63994665Can you stop posting your shitty recast? You didn't even paint it that well.Obviously many people would buy and use old FW dreads if they were still available without jumping through hoops.
>>63994743Still better than 2d6 armor saves
>>63994743Only if your re-roll is a specific result like "re-roll 1's"Re-rolling failed saves works after modifiers.
>>63994773Female edgy marines and big tits of course.
>>63994779>recastIt's a genuine from 2005, but have fun floundering around in all that salt.
>>63994789I like that pic. Ill see what i can do this weekend
>>63994785By what logic? Reroll failed hit rolls works the same way, if yoy have a -1 on bs 3 you can't reroll 3s
>>63992527Then You Shall Be Moved!
>>63994785No it doesn't retard>Reroll FAILED saves>Rerolls happen before modifiers >Unmodified, a terminators only fails his saves on a 1>Reroll the 1s>Apply rend after reroll(well say -1)>Now 1s and 2s fail, but can't be rerolled since the modifiers been appliedIf it was reroll ANY saves, then it would work after modifiers since you can reroll successful ones, but reroll FAILED does not inherently ignore this rule
>>63994785Wrong. You reroll before modifiers, so if rerolling "failed" saves means you reroll based of your original stats. So for example, Calgar rerolls all "failed hit rolls" for ultrasmurfs. If a marine gets a 3 but is suffering from a minus 1 to hit he doesnt get to reroll that 3, as rerolls happen before modifiers and as such he is counted as "succeeding" the hit until the -1 modifier changes his 3 to a 2.The ONLY character that can override this is Cawl, who doesnt specify "failed", only hit rolls in general.
>>63994639Never saw anyone trying to abuse it, not in tournaments nor in casual.
>>63994820Based Anon, Gods bless you. Make her Black Legion please.
>>63994847Nigger just reroll the saves you fail, after modifiers.I have no idea what kind of RAW-bullshit you're smoking here.
>>63994911Post your models
>>63994854>>63994847Can you guys not be faggots for once and go with what is obviously the intention of the idea, instead of autistically picking at phrasing for a fleeting single moment of superiority over someone on an anonymous chat room?
>>63994911>Just cheatFuck off you retarded gremlin, this isn't even ruleslawyering, GW clarified this in like the first FAQ of 8th edition
>>63994842>>63994847>>63994854My bad, I knew the FAQ answered questions regarding natural 1's but somehow my brain glossed over that the BRB already covered that re-rolls are made before modifiers.
>>63994911>>63994934Listen you dumb nigger/niggers, thats actually how the game works. Ofcourse we are going to correct you if you post blatantly wrong information. Its worked like that for the entirety of 8th so please post proof youve actually played the game or READ YOUR GOD-DAMN RULES.
>>63994934Maybe choose your wording mkre carefully if you want to make an ability that specifically works unlike every other ability
>>63994934>Hey guise, I came up with a retarded rule!>That's retarded>No it's not you're retarded>No, it's retarded, and this is why>GUISE STAHP!!1!Pathetic
>>63992877Leman Russ to Chaos. If the Space Wolves we're a Chaos legion, they would one of the most most powerful, if not the most powerful.
>>63994929Latest WIP.>>63994937Well just word it so it works as intended and stop being autistic about it.>>63994977Modifiers suck anyway. I want 4th ed back.
>>63994934Page 178 outright says "re-rolls happen before modifiers (if any) are applied", there's no weird interpretation of wording, it's black and white.
>>63994997Better than what I expected, still not good
>>63994937But this isn't even a rule?We asked what could be done to make a bad unit better. One guy suggested letting terminators take the double save attempt thing. Youre all rules lawyering an offhand casual suggestion for a resultant change to them. He didn't sit down and write a modified datasheet with the intent to go right in using it as homebrew. You're rules lawyering a short hand, generically worded "I want X to do Y" as if it's in the codex right now.
>>63994997>OG FW Baneblade with cast mantletsI'm willing to believe you're an actual oldfag that's been through a decade of editions and thus glosses over large parts of the rulebook. Go read it again, properly.
>>63995048>not reverse image searching first
>>63994528>lemartardYou're better off using the generic jump pack chaplain and saying he's lemartes
>>63995033Nigger this is basic functions of the game. The rules are 8 pages long, you should be familar enough to right something that isn't retarded at this point
>>63994994It would fit them quite a bit I think. With the Vikings theme and the mutants.
>>63994997Need to apply your washes better and the air brushing could have been done better. Apply yourself. Otherwise the battle damage and chipping is spars but done well giving it some character. All and all it looks pretty dull bit seeing as it's a wip I am sure it will have some pop to it when complete.
>>63994246>>63994569Will you ever draw her with her clothes off?
>>63995069>no resultsSo you didn't bother either before implying they just googled that shit.
>>63995114Is it weird that I love the versions that omit the red portion of her top for exposed bust more than the idea of actual nudes?
>>63995070I just liked his pose and anesthetic. The finecast was shit but he was fun to paint. Also I think him and Astorath are two of the few older minatures that still look cool for BA though like everything else, manlet.Pic related, when the fuck are we going to get a new Mephiston?
>>63995073>>63995048>>63995014Nigger this is basic functions of reading. I'm sorry common core education has failed you, like it has to so many Americans. The rules change proposal, as written by >>63994634 was>terminators>armour saves are performed on a 2d6 pick highest resultLearn to fucking read faggot cunt bitch.
>>63995145>anestheticHoly shit! I knew resin was toxic!
>>63994997I like it. Looks more like a WWII tank. Don't take too much of the more harsh criticism around here to heart, most of them field grey tides if they even play, much less participate in the hobby.
>>63995147Man I knew global warming was bad but this has to be a new record for summer posting.
>>63995147Holy shit you can't be serious
>>63995162In order to paint better you need to drink that paint water and huff those primer fumes bro.
>>63992899A'ight, you pretty funny.>>63995162I see what you did there, but remember kids, resin is no joke. Don't inhale dust off your resin kits, clean them thoroughly and use a mask.
>>63995145He really does need a new sculpt.
>>63995199Clearcoat fumes never fail to give me a headache. Gunmetal fumes smell the best imho.
>>63994994>Leman Russ to ChaosNever!
>>63995204>Ordered an M3 mask of amazon>Nice and comfortable>Shit is actually kind of calming to wear, something about hearing your own breathing is nice, helps me focus>Wear it every time I work on my hobby now, even if im painting or working with plasticIs there something wrong with me?
>>63995241Yeah but nothing dangerous
>>63995241If you start hearing voices just remember they don't exist. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't listen to them.
>>63995241Nah mate, I'm reasonably normal but I still love wearing my mask when possible. Almost makes me want to cosplay so I'd have an excuse to wear it more
>>63995190>>63995174Explain to me how I'm wrong?People here are picking apart the reroll proposal because it would only proc on a 1, ignoring the fact the original post said they should change to roll 2 pick highest, not reroll fails.Throwing more summer and other buzzwords at me just proves I'm right, you ran out of actual argument several posts ago.
>>63995073Anon made a suggestion to make Terminators good. It was clear what his intention was.If the rules for Terminators were to be changed ina ccordence with anon's suggestion, the rules could be written to reflect this, right?It's kinda pointless to rules lawyer something that's not even a rule, (you) could have just pointed out that it would need to be worded different because 8th is weird.>>63995166Thanks. Gonna add camo netting and accessories next.>>63995082My first try at airbrushing a model. Got the airbrush for christmas (it's a cheap syphon feed thing).What in particular should I improve on in regards to washes? I got back into the hobby last year, and washes are still a new concept to me.>>63995048You're not wrong. This Baneblade in particular was bought from eBay though. Pic related is before I stripped the paint of it.I have a couple more old Mars Pattern Baneblades and a Lucius Pattern that I will repaint later.
>>63995241You're a /k/ommando but you don't know it yet
>>63995241Just kinda don't feel the need wear it while playing and you'll be alright I guess?
>>63995290The reroll failed saves was in place of 2d6 armor you fucking idiot>>63995294It's not rules lawyering, his suggestion did nothing according to the most basic rules of the game. It's be like suggesting tactical marines can reroll failed leadership tests. Don't blame others when you write something so badly that nobody can understand the intent, if he meant something else he should have worded it better
>>63994585>the tubes resemble hornsNow that's just clever design
>>63995204>tfw attacked FW resin with drills and rotary tools without a mask>probably fine because the resin broke off in larger flakes>own a PMG gas mask for cosplay>probably fucked because I used the GP-5 filter once and nearly choked on a bunch of dust>turns out the filters are absolutely full of asbestos
>>63995376Okay so why don't you take the next logical step of considering how an informal wording of "reroll them instead" interacts with the original proposal.and see that the reroll suggestion intended "reroll failed saves after modifiers", not "reroll unmodified fails"?
>>63992616Chaosfags are the worst.
>>63995442The next logical step is to assume he's a fucking idiot and explain why what he wrote doesn't work, and given the tier of replies fucking idiot doesn't seem to far off the mark.Since rerolling saves after modifiers is stupid in its own way
if an attack that wounds on 2's has +1 to wound, and you roll a 1, is that a success or fail?i know that hit rolls of 1 are automatic fails, but i can't find anything in the book or FAQs about wound rolls
>>63994641Baal Predators>Let their stratagem allow them to shoot heavy weapons after advancing.Better:>Make the turret Flamer 12” So it can burn things on overwatch like a hellhound.
>>63992980What was in white dwarf?
>>639955151s always fail
>>63995241it's too late anon
To anyone that owns one of the FW knights, did you have to counter weight it to prevent it from tipping? I kind of feels like I will have to do it for mine
>>63992923Pretty much this, with the addition of "CP Battery Guard" soup players being the absolute worst.
>>63995598>not mounting it to a walnut base
>>63995588They got sandwiched between imperial and chaos forces and scattered like roaches. The marines fighting them are like wtf? Then a Helldrake shows up and they all collectively run for the hills.
>>639955151's always fail. GW is testing out "unmodified 6's always work" with Kill Team and with Orks and we'll probably see it next edition or next FAQ.
>>63995312I dunno, if anything, considering the state of some FLGS he wouldn't be doing a bad thing
>>63995620That is probably a better idea. Where can I buy one?
>>63995523I dont see how that's better
>>63995597The last thing I want to do is look like these faggots. Ive not felt the urge to wear them outside or when im doing anything else. Im not even sure these gasmasks would even work with all the random shit theyve added to it and fiddled with.
>>63995598The actual problem is the base flexes which THEN causes it to tip over; if you can get your hands on an offcut of sheet steel around 2mm thick you can use it to stiffen the underside of the base as well as add counter weight.
>>63995412It really is. Got this lad for just under £15. Glued together in a right mess, but cleans up real good, and replacing the left shoulder is easy.
"Ah, one of the deluxe models. Come to save us with your 'superior' gene-tech?"
>>63995659Mine is a porphyeron, it came with no base. I don't even know what size of base to try to find
>>63995647Go cut some wood and learn skrimshaw Billy!
>>63995653They're usually just plastic cans, there's no actual filter, or space to put a real one.
>>63995647WoodshopsHobby centersThrift stores I've only ever seen them for thunderhawk stands because they're the only thing durable enough to hold one.
>>63995669>"Haha, greetings fellow battle brothers- oh whoops, almost hit my head on the ceiling haha, its a bit too low isnt it?, ah sorry brother, let me bend down so I can shake your hand, I was expecting someone... taller"
>>63993853Have you got an imgur or anywhere there's more/all of your stuff? I like your art.
>>63995650The current turret Flamer is a stupidly small 8”. That means while the hellhound regularly turns charging infantry into sparklers on the 4th of July, the Baal fails to overwatch at all.Also, at 8” the ability to advance and shoot for CP is a situational case at best, while the duel assault cannons encourage you not to move at all because of the heavy rule. Most duel assault cannon units that aren’t flyers I see move 10” forward on turn 1, then sit there like a pillbox for the rest of the game.
>>63995772It's good to know that GW can't paint those tiny skulls on their models either.
>>63994553Feels bad that my good and neat suggestion got less attention than the reroll termie saves suggestion.Next time I should add some errors.
What are the regular knights that people use? Some fag is trying to argue that Wraith Knights are better/over powered because they don't cost like 800 points like that one Imperial one.We're both pretty new but I know better than to think the Wraith Knight is usable.
>>63993762>wat? how? why?Nids probably. Or Orks who have discovered the wonders of Flex Seal.
>>63995846They try really hard.
>>63994239>Speed Freeks was ok at best.Speed Freeks is its own self-contained game too. Been looking at the rules recently (seems pretty fun) and might see if anyone at my local GW wants to give it a go tomorrow.
>>63992379Is it worth buying 1 or 2 SC! boxes of Militarum Tempestus before the price increase?What's /40kg/'s opinion about them?Models seem pretty cool but they seem pretty shitty on the table.
>>63995904Sounds about standard as far as racially themed chapters go.
>>63993589Fabius Bile is best Traitor confirmed. Abbadon a shit and should have died at Cadia knowing he got played by the Chaos Gods when he split the galaxy in half.
>>63995904>negro angels with only black mehreens
>>63995669Everyone is complaining about Primaris while my favorite chapter didn't get them. Feels bad.
>>63995902Well, with two boxes you can pay the battalion troop tax and HQ tax. Also tons of extra bits.>Models seem pretty cool but they seem pretty shitty on the table.The rule of cool is the only rule that matters. Any unit can be nerfed into oblivion with any faq or errata.
>>63993111Trips confirm that's some damn good art.Her eyes just have that 'what the hell are you looking at' vibe to them, and I love it.
>>63995957>my grimderp rip and tear faction didn't get numarines who completely lack meleeTruly a great loss.
>>63995957They know how to make them.
>>63995957Yeah they did back market sneaky beakie deals.
Man I missed some autism.Fucking arguing about a suggestion to make a unit better. It's not going to happen GW doesn't have the shit show that is CID.
>>63994321Hellblasters with Heavy Plasma IncineratorWhen overcharging S10 Same cost as standard Plasma Incinerator
>>63995956>>63995904Necro angels would be cool. Undead angels
>>63995957Top tier taste in chapters that.
>>63995902Scions are great. Put two command squads, a tempestor and an Ogryn Bodyguard (or Nork) in a valkyre and rain plasma wherever you want it on the board. Of course, this means you'll need some spare plasma guns to convert.The Taurox prime is an alright vehicle, tons of shots, just not as good as a valkyre.The commissar is kinda worthless.
>>63996021Why the need for S10? Marine Cavalry giving you trouble?
>>63995869Wraithknights used to be criminally undercosted but aren't as stupidly OP in 8th. Your friend still has a point.
>>63996054How hard is it to draw a chainweapon with enough room for the chain? Jesus Christ how do you not notice when spending who knows how much time drawing that?
>>63995772>Hey, Primaris-brother Artercis, me and the lads are gonna go pick up a couple of the techmarines censers, and go and... meditate... with them inside one of the blessed Land Raiders, to reflect on recent victories. >Brother Snoopus, my battle-brother during my time in the Deathwatch. Referred to it as "Heated Metal Boxing" I believe. >Want to join us in reverence? >Ooooh, right. Land Raider, I forgot... Awkward...
>>63996029>Necro angels would be cool. Undead angels>Undead angels
>>63996062Canoptek Wraiths among other things. The heavy 1 boys need something over the rapid fire variant.
>>63996054>>63996081Look at his feet, that idiot is tripping and about to fall.
>>63995987>shitting on the Carchardon AstraConfirmed for shit taste.
>>63996021Shit. Heavy incinerators should be damage d3/3 for normal and supercharge respectively,
>>63995598So that's what the base churches are for
>>63996169Didn't 4chanNEL crap out for you just now?
>>63996142They'd have to increase their points quite a lot for that, as thats way better than both the other hellblaster options.
Is there a good way to make cultisty Heavy Weapons Teams now Forge World have discontinued the R&H ones? Aiming for Frateris Militia rather than chaos boys, but the Cawdor gang don't look like they could be easily turned into gunners for all their good looks as infantry squads and I could use some dakka to go with the scores of nutters trying to fistfight Astartes and Tyranids.
>>63996193>living in a third world country
>>63996091>brother snoopus must have been a Salamander
>>63996193>>63996137It has been crapping out the entire week
>>63996208No, since it's only 1 shot
>>63996214The easiest way is to just buy Cadian weapon squads and use AdMech ranger heads or another equally shady looking head.
anymore GSC leaks?
>>63996093When Firing 1 shot per guy S10 isn’t going to help you as much as you’d like. What you need is Dmg 3, so each unsaved shot kills a wraith. As it is a single heavy hellblaster couldn’t kill a wraith because it only does 2 damage per shot, whereas a rapid fire hellblaster can Because it gets 2 shots each.This is why I say the Hammer of Sunderance (New Guard relic battle cannon that does a flat 3 damage) and the Predator Autocannon ( AP-1 Dmg3) are such good investments. Many different “wraith equivalents” like thunderwolves with stormsheilds are our and about rocking more wounds than plasma shots can take and 3++s that negate all that nice AP. The best counter to these are low AP, medium strength, multishot, multiwound Weapons like the Predator-Autocannon, that falcon Grav-tank’s main gun, and relic battle cannon.
I NEED ULTRAMARINE CODEXNOW
>>63996338Congrats on the first codex of the edition m8!
>>63996021>fix a not so great unit>Hellblastersreeeeeee
>>63996021It does need a change. It's pretty shit compared to the rapid fire one. I'd say start at D2 at the very least.
>>63996338>I NEED ULTRAMARINE CODEXIt's already out.
>>63996338It's in the megas man. Came out a while ago.
>>63993079Nice thunderfire cannon good sir
[Battalion]2x C.Commander (Plasma P.)5x Inf. Squad (3x Plasma G, 2x Gren. L, 5x Lascannon)1x Chimera (H.Bolters)[Spearhead]1x Tank Cmd [Warlord] (Battle Cannon, Lasgun, Plasma Cannon sponsons)1x Leman Russ (As above)2x HWS (Mortars)This should be fine for 1k games as a newbie right?I'm thinking of either buying scions and a valk or dkok engineers with some artillery to expand to 1.5k/2k games, but I'm not sure which is better.Currently have one scion command squad and some cadian infantry spare.
>>63996474I hate that this is 1k
>>63996474Seems solid. Not a fan of lascannons in infantry squads myself, but they can use orders well, and are remarkably hard to kill off the table with how many body shields they get from the rest of the squad.And I assume that's a lascannon on the tank commander, not a lasgun?
>>63993189Is the ne in the left rear holding an eradication Beamer?
>>63996252True, but that looks a bit too professional when the rest of the line troops are dressed like pic related. Just found out Anvil Industries does some kneeling robed dudes, maybe I could mix them with Cawdor parts and Cadian guns if I didn't mind them being rather expensive for Guard infantry, and if I got an extra lot I could replace my Immolator gunners with someone in more suitable armour for a bunch of random militia with some relics, plus make some Priests.
>>63996517I have 7 points spare but nothing to do with it>>63996531Err yes that should be Lascannon.The Chimera also has a H/K missile
>>63996193No. USA fag here.
>>63996565>eradication BeamerYou mean a conversion beamer?
>>63992379Is a pure Daemon list that isn't Tzeench or Nurgle viable at all?
>>63993298As an admech player I would suggest two five-man squads as it’s the best use of the bits. Also, Vanguards should be given the arc rifle and their alpha should have the arc maul and arc pistol.
>>63993079Running some practice games with my dread heavy list in preparation for LVO
>>63996616Depends on how WAAC-infested your local meta is
>>63993282I read that as Fem Magnus, which is also good
>>63996628>Vanguard>Not giving them the Plasma >Replacing your ranged weapon on the Alpha EVERYou can give the alpha a melee weapon but never take away their carbine. Pistols are so incredibly shit you'd have to be an idiot to pay for them. Vanguard's -1 to toughness is good for other units to take advantage of, like Dragoons or infiltrators. Giving your 6 attacks, WS 4+ better melee instead of using them for what they paying extra points for (their 3+ BS) is utter nonsense.
>>63996741Ultramarines with GuillimanDakka Admech with CawlHeavy armor Imperial Guard (with and without Knights)Infantry Guard + BA + Custodes>how fucked am I?
>>63996746I read that as Fern Magnus, which works too
>>63996776Now I do want Magnus drawn as a plant.
I'm working on a 1000pts list but I have hard time to fit shit. I have two start collecting boxes (one termie lord is Abby now), a daemon prince and 40 cultists. What should I drop to fit the 1000pts limit?++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [64 PL, 1187pts] ++Legion: Black Legion+ HQ +Abaddon the Despoiler [12 PL, 240pts]: WarlordDaemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: Pair of talons, Khorne, Warp bolter+ Troops +Chaos Cultists [12 PL, 224pts]: Mark of Khorne35x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon4x Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Flamer1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol2x Chaos Space Marines [5 PL, 75pts]: Icon of Wrath, 4x Marine w/ Chainsword, Mark of KhorneAspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword+ Elites +2x Helbrute [7 PL, 135pts]: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Twin lascannon+ Heavy Support +Havocs [7 PL, 120pts]: Mark of Khorne1x Aspiring Champion: Chainsword, Plasma pistol2x Havoc w/ special weapon: Meltagun2x Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
There shouldn't be a problem if I put grey knights on chaos themed bases, right?
>>63996776I read that as Ferb Magnus, which works as well.
>>63996771Pretty fucked. Unless they're idiots who don't really understand the game I wouldn't bother
>>63996803RAW they'll be -1 T
>>63996802I'd run the Termie lord as is, named Characters that aren't named Cawl, or Bobby G, aren't worth it.
Are Admech fun to play? Paint?
What's an Arc rifle in the lore and how is it different to a plasma rifle/gun whatever?
>>63996858it shoots lightning instead of heated plasma
>>63995869Closest comparison is the Gallant Knight(GK) vs Wraith Knight(WK) with Sword n Board. Both have;>T8>24W>3+/5++>Identical stomp attackThe difference?>G. Knight is 23pts cheaper>2× S weapon has additional rules (usually negated by inclusion of a relic)>GK has +1A>GK hits on a 2+ in melee vs 3+ WK>GK has a gun, even if its only a stunner>GK has access to purpose made stratagems like advance and charge, fight twice, improve invul save>GK has access to relics like the Paragon Gauntlet>GK can be a warlord with a bunch of cool traits>WK only has 1 useful Craftworld trait vs the GK's multiple useful Houses>WK invul works in combat aswell as shooting unlike the GK, so if your WK makes it into combat you are more likely to survive.I think that about covers it. It's cheaper and has access to more shiny stuff specifically stratagems.
>>63996842Yes, hard but fun to paint>>63996833Why?>>63996818Question: Does the pile in of a unit take placed after completing a charge or when it is declared to start fighting. (Can I use the pile in to tie up overwatch of a different unit?)
>>63996877>lightningwhich is just plasma
>>63996842Static, I wouldnt get into them unless you like playing gunlines and dont ever want to not play a primarily (as in 75-80% of the army) gunline army. I also hope you like Cawl because if youre against any slightly competitive army youre gonna need him.AdMech are a new faction and they havent gotten much love. They have like 2 options for most slots. There is a new HQ coming out but its description with the announcement means its another gunline character. The rumour engine had a very "dunecrawler" style picture of a vehicle but that could just be a Primaris vehicle with how interlinked the factions are when it comes to non infantry aesthetic wise.Paint wise AdMech needs to be painted in sub assemblies or youre in for a bad time, so its an army where you'll only have yourself to blame if you play Grey tide as going back and painting will be very annoying.
>>63996840So something like this? I had to drop a few cultists as well.++ Battalion Detachment +5CP (Chaos - Chaos Space Marines) [58 PL, 1000pts] ++Legion: Black Legion+ HQ +Chaos Lord in Terminator Armour [6 PL, 101pts]: Combi-bolter, Mark of Khorne, Power swordDaemon Prince with Wings [9 PL, 183pts]: First Among Traitors, Khorne, Malefic talon, Talisman of Burning Blood, Warlord, Warp bolter+ Troops +Chaos Cultists [12 PL, 181pts]: Mark of Khorne31x Chaos Cultist w/ autopistol and brutal assault weapon3x Chaos Cultist w/ special weapon: Heavy stubber1x Cultist Champion: Brutal assault weapon and Autopistol2x Chaos Space Marines [5 PL, 75pts]: Icon of Wrath, 4x Marine w/ Chainsword, Mark of KhorneAspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Chainsword+ Elites +2x Helbrute [7 PL, 135pts]: Mark of Khorne, Power scourge, Twin lascannon+ Heavy Support +Havocs [7 PL, 115pts]: Mark of Khorne1x Aspiring Champion: Bolt pistol, Boltgun2x Havoc w/ special weapon: Meltagun2x Havoc w/ special weapon: Plasma gun
>>63993953I like this. Well done
>>63996919No, the pile in is part of the fight phase.>Choose unit to fight with>That unit then piles in>Then it fights>Then it consolidates if possible>Then repeat all steps with next unit
>>63996935Only in a very broad sense
Can orks do MSU troops via trukkboyz or daisy chaining mob rule leadership? I want to run a bunch of smaller Boyz units to shit out deffskullz rerolls with rokkits and Busta bombs
>>63996919>(Can I use the pile in to tie up overwatch of a different unit?)Yes, you can. However:-Models can only pile in towards the closest enemy unit, so if you want to draw in additional units you have to place your models correctly during the charge-Units are only allowed to attack the units they declared a charge on during the turn they charged, even with attack twice stratagems and such-However, the units that get drawn in to combat but weren't charged still get to attack the charging unit
When will we get to play with Daemon Primarch Perty
>>63996842They're pretty shooty and infiltrating dragoons got nerfed last FAQ.I think the closest thing to a fun rule they have now are servitors with that stratagem that lets you revive them
What are the basic gunline tactics?
>>63996746I read this as Fem Sagnus, which sounds nice.
>>63997010Sit back and shoot.
>>63996989Next Nurgle release
>>63997010>Block access to your good shooting units with cheap bodies or things that can't be charged easily (Flyers in zoom mode). >Apply all available buffs via psychic/orders/stratagems/unit abilities.>Shoot everything>If the enemy reaches your lines and charges your blocking units, in your turn fall them back, repeat steps 1-3.>Do this until the game ends
>>63997013>Fem SagnusA ghetto female Magnus with sagging jeans?
>>63996935One it a plasma "bullet" (or a beam depending of the writer), and the other is a standard lightning
>>63997010Stand (in cover)Shoot (their important bits)Shoot (close threats)
>>63996989He'll be the only model ith a demolisher cannon that doesn't have a hilariously small range.
>>63997010Shoot most threatening unit until it is killPick next most threatening unitRepeat>Chaff, bullet sponge and speed bump unit placement is also a thing, but not that hard either and only matters in high level play
>>63997010Tau's only strategy
>>63997063and somehow melee is what got nerfed.>Bloodletters deserve A2 baseline before charges.
>>63996802Do you have a certain attachment to Black legion? Because if not change to Iron Warriors and take the "ignore morale" trait. Then grab a generic chaos lord and change your havocs melta guns for something cheaper.
>>63992850Blocks your path in fearlessness>>63992527
>>63996907perfect answer, thanks
>>63997159Nut hred? What are you on about? Is it some new fetish or something?
>>63997127>Do you have a certain attachment to Black legionHonestly, yeah. On the other hand it's not against fluff to paint my dudes as BL but run them as a legion X heavily-themed band. Still, I would be happy to find a way to build the best list with the stuff I already have as a BL. Not best meta-wise but just the most optimised brew with shit I already bought.
>>63992527>tfw when Ravenwing is tankier that Deathwing Terminators.
>>63997178It's worth noting that Gallant is considered a very competitive pick aswell.
New thread please. I cant make it myself I use a speech to text device to post since I dont have arms, but I can't make new threads.
>>63997236Use your feet silly
>>63997207I dont see Abaddon being worth it in 1000 points. The same way I dont see how bringing 40 cultists will be worth it if you have to pay 2 CP in 1k every morale phase to not lose huge swathes of cultists. The only way its good is when youre using the Iron Warriors trait as you barely give up anything for it.If youre stuck on Black Legion, i'd look at different options for 1k, the same way I wouldnt reccomend bringing Guilliman in 1k, they are force multipliers and when they take up 1/3rd or 1/4 of the list they kind of lose their charm.
>>63997216>tfw terminators are never going to get fixed because they'll be squatted with marinelets
>>63997236How do you solve captchas
>>63997252I havent masteredcopy and paste yet. Left click is hard enough
>>63997280They should get to reroll failed saves.
>>63997297I can click the mouse just fine, I have a trackball + button clicks pedal.
>>63997332. . . you know what return them to their old high point cost and a 2++ is fine.
>>63997280>That imageFucking kek. The best way to fix Terminators would be to give them a FNP or allow them to use both their armor save and invun save, using their cover save first, and if it fails, use the invun save.
>>63997279I'm definitely not attached to Abby. I know that 240pts is a big chunk of points for such a small list so I have no problem with dropping him. What about revamping the mark of chaos? I could drop cultists and Abby and run 3x 5 bolter csm squad to pay the troop tax. For HQ I can pick a winged prince, termie sorc and termie lord. Havocs and Brutes stay as they are. Slap mark of Tzeentch on everything and that gives me 1000pts.
>>63997332I hate invuln saves tho.They're cancer.
>>63997358>2++ is fineNo it isnt. 2++ is retarded and armies with mortal wounds will laugh while the armies that dont will SEETH.
Right now there are below freezing temperatures. If I hit my dudes with spray primer will it actually dry or will it just freeze?
>>63997399spray inside you pussy
2++ shouldn't even be possible outside of that one DE warlord trait.
>>63997383>mfw dark eldar when terminators with 2++ save become the meta>mfw every aeldari list features 30 Mandrakes with a Doomseer as it's our only source of none haywire mortal wounds
Where is the Star tide Nexus on the galactic map?
Alright TG my buddy just signed me up for a tournament. I have a decent sized Death Guard army but I've only ever focused on collecting and building while coming up with a cool fluff paint scheme ( RUSTY BOYS in the second plague company ). I've never even played my demo game and this guy has already paid for me to be in a thousand point tournament. What do you guys figure my list should look Like?
>>63997399I've done it in the Bathtub before, the primer comes off the tub really easily
>>63997399It'll go sticky and thick
>>63994639I thought CA2017 is no longer used, as it's out of date?
discord gg/TuUpW2rkill team league starting soon on VASSAL , here is the discord. Expect fun narrative play, and hopefully a 2k point league as well when we get enough players! We also might run KTHOR for the second nontrial league, people seem to really like the increased unit variety/ourguyz/ welcome.
>>63997418But I'm a dudeCan girls just insert their minis to prime? Do they have to drink the primer or something?
>>63997431You don't even need that, Dark Eldar shit out so much anti-infantry firepower they can drown 2+ saves in regular wounds.
>>63997399Moscow shitposter here. I primed inside with my bigass windows open perfectly fine. Did a quick prime of my scions outside and I think they look fine too. Pic related
>>63997421agreedwho can do this
>>63997435What do you have?
>>63997494Crusaders can still get it with psyker support.
>>63997487>Moscow shitposterYou should start tripfagging. You're my favorite poster
>>63997494I think Grey Knights can boost themselves up to a 2+ Invulnerable save through a combination of Stratagems and Psychic Powers, but it's about the one semi-powerful thing in their codex so it's not a big deal.
>>63997369Marks of chaos dont actually do anything outside of god unqiue relics. Cultists are still better than normal CSM for troops and youre better off just taking 3 or 4 squads of 10 (you'll lose to morale, but they'll do more before they die if you use your saved points for other units) rather than taking chaos marines, who are overcosted the same as Tac marines.
>>63997567Crusaders can be boosted by Primaris Psykers/Astropaths to a 2++ extremely easily through Psychic barrier, while gives +1 to all saving throws.Though they really arent worth giving a 2++ to.
>>63997498I've got Mortarion, Typhus, two of the know no fear sets, one extra box of plague marines, an extra box of pox walkers, a box of blightlord terminators, a plague surgeon, one plague burst crawler, one myphetic blighthauler, and a Lord felthius and the tainted cohort.
>>63997560Someone likes me? I feel so loved.Unless you're just lying to me, but you wouldn't do that to me, would you, anon?
>>63997590We're all shit posters, everyone who could make a thread is busy!
>>63997630it's a trick he just wants to filter you
>>63997465It is. The missions and certain rules updates mostly.
>>63997567That thing got FAQ'd out instantly for GK.
>>63997700I love how GKs best matchup is supposed to be against daemons but daemons have a respawn stratagem if they're killed by GK. They just can't win.
>>63997786Too late, the new thread belongs to the angry marines now!
>>63997756first thread is true thread
>>63997807Sorry I was a little slow but at least I improved the thread pasta! I'll try better next time
>>63997824I like angry marinesI just wanted to try to get more people to join my vassal campaignI wish angry marines were in it
>>63997786>discord in the opUnironically kill yourself
>>63997868no uplenty of threads on /tg/ and /vg/ play with each othere all the time.this thread shall be at war with itself! and it will be GLORIOUS!