Duardingleberry Edition. >Thread questionWhy does GW suck so consistently at making dwarfs? >Wrath and Rapture revealedhttps://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/11/24/breaking-news-from-the-vigilus-open-daygw-homepage-post-1fw-homepage-post-1/>Official AoS websiteageofsigmar.com/>Updated Forgeworld Compendiumswarhammer-community.com/2018/06/29/29th-june-a-monster-update-from-forge-worldfw-homepage-post-1/>Resourcespastebin.com/UVKnsh7d>AoS Novels, Battletome PDF and Audiobooksmega.nz/#F!q84BWKiL!CN6kasdx1Pyshfga_UzuEQmega.nz/#F!6EZEHQqJ!gdDBPH48LYPGDccS4YaeWAmega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg>Rulebook of Nightvaultmega.nz/#!PsZX3C5A!8Eq41d8y3ozTdhexxDIbzn33cOK7QKchiVpQIOCLt9k>TTS Mod Packsteamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1363418757>Toolswarhammer-community.com/warscroll-builder/warhammer-community.com/2017/09/26/make-your-own-free-city-the-easy-way-sep26gw-homepage-post-4/repl.it/repls/FrivolousBelovedEmperorpenguinnofile.io/f/EbyKWbMJVbM/dark+elf+photoshop+template.psd>Previous Thread>>63387780
>TQBecause it refuses to update Chorfs.
>>63399980Because Chorfs aren't plastic yet
>>63399980Do you guys still find people that spout angrily the memes of the lore? Because boy I did bump today on some fuckwad whom had the gall to rant about how retarded "Sigmar and his pal dragon creating the realms and chaos and shit."
>>63400119I find them every day in this very thread.
>>63400119Check out the "Warhammer Fantasy General"
>>63400135I mean IRL, in your LGS/Club.
>>63400119>Do you guys still find people that spout angrily the memes of the lore?Sure. The T9A thread up right now is a fucking goldmine.
>>63400119Recently met a guy - "So stormcast are like thousand sons?" I tell him that "no - there is dude or gal under that armor". 5 minutes pass - "So they are like thousand sons?"
>>63400120I fucking love that even fucking Fimir get a mention in the core book and chaos dwarves/duardin don't lmfao.
>>63400120Chorfs are 4 times more popular than Disposessed, you mongoloid.
>>63400120I love this pic but it must be re-done with no MS Paint this time.
>>63400150I live in Russia, so it's much harder to find someone who knows the actual lore.
>>63400187You must have a different book, because chorfs are totally mentioned in the core book
>>63400191I'm a fucking blind shit. Could you mark them on that list or something? I honestly can't spot them.
>>63400191This makes me wonder - that army is damn expensive in cash. I always thought FW exclusive armies are more of a meme
>>63400241Where? I can't find them anywhere in my copy or when ctrl+f ing on the digital version.
>>63400260One of the realm maps, can't remember exactly which one, shows a chorf fortress. They might be called Dawi Zharr or whatever the stupid name is
>>63400214>Russia.Holy shit, is anyone left that knows how to read and isn't a secret service agent there?
>>63400251Legions of Azgorh
>>63400251Legion of Azgorh
>>63400276Zharr Vyxa is a fortress in Shysh.
>>63400284Of course not, we transcended your subhuman scribblings and communicate via telepathy now.
>>63400288>>63400299Oh right, thanks
So we all love memeing to various degrees about Stormcast, but which Stormhost do you actually like?I'm a fan of Hallowed Knights. It's such a simple step to make them silver instead of gold but it just makes the design look that much better.Astral Templars are neat too, though I'm less a fan of the colour scheme, but I always like monster hunting specialists.
Didn't see a new topic, I ask again:If I use GA Chaos what units are battleline?Chaos warriors and...?
>>63400345Celestial Warbringers were cooler before the retcon. I liked the idea of a glorious boisterous crusade marching in the name of their golden god.I hated the Celestial Vindicators at first because they seem like an edgelord faction but I like the way the new battletome fleshed them out.
>>63400345Anvils of Heldenhammer win for me. Simple scheme, stormhost made of actual undead, good rules.Hallowed Knights I like but recently listened to realmgate audiobook in with their relictor chases Manlet. Guy was kinda holier than thou asshole.
>>63400345Hallowed, Astrals and tempest lords in that order.
>>63400276>>63400309Ah just found it, not even a proper mention of Chaos Dwarves, just Dwarves experimenting with death magic, so at best an implication of them.
>>63400358Gors, Ungors, Blood Warriors, Bloodletters, Bloodreavers, Chaos Marauders, Chaos warriors and like 15 more units at least.
>>63400358I think some of the beastmen, skaven and chaos marauders are indeed generic battleline.
>>63400345Mine are painted as Hallowed Knights, but Celestial Vindicators are a close second
>>63400345I like the characters lore from hammers of sigmar, but celestial vindicators scheme is my favorite
>>63400406>stormhost made of actual undeadWrong. They are Stormcast made from human souls that were in Shyish rather than any other realm.When humans die their souls go to Shyish and slowly "dissolve" over centuries. Sigmar plucked the souls that were "dissolving" before Nagash could eat them, and turned them into the Anvils stormhost.
>>63400510I worded it wrong. Still they are forged from people who were dead for long long time(unlike moste stormcast that are fresh)
>>63399795not sure about the gunhaulers but they get pushed as extra in the sets. i guess they're suppose to be like land speeders, but they're not cheap enough to be cast away units. as for the ironclad, it's supportive and has the most guns. the ships feel like a trap since the infantry can outshoot them but the ships can be faster for capturing objectives. >>63399980in defense of dorfs the magmadroth looks great and i am starting KO. shame about the other dorfs but you can't save them all
>>63400345I'm a basic bitch so I like hammers of sigmar. It helps that I accidentally bought a bottle of Reikland Fleshshade Gloss instead of normal reikland fleshshade so now i can make my Hammer Bros. shiny. This is good, because I only pay attention to shiny things.
>>63400613Does the gloss help the way that gold looks? Because in offical paint schemes it seems kinda dull
anyone found any good alternatives to stormcast shoulder pads?I cant find any good images of them building-in-progress without so its hard to make a judgement on whether they'd look good without any shoulder pads at all. regardless, the regular ones put me off buying stormcast because of how dumb they look.Also these dudes are from last thread and look dank as fuck.
>>63400345Anvils of the Heldenhammer
Can someone give me a super list of the playable factions and what their *GENERAL* playstyle is? Have a friend who might get into it, but he wants to know what each faction is like and doesn't know enough about digging through warscrolls and batallions rules.Like, "Waywatchers are for shooting arrows, disposssed are for turtling", etc.
>>63400658>I cant find any good images of them building-in-progress without so its hard to make a judgement on whether they'd look good without any shoulder pads at allSome anon was posting his pad-less Tau Stormcasts a few months ago. They look fucking terrible with no pads imo.
>>63400648Gloss looks way better in person than in any photos online.
>>63399980>TQBecause they took the beloved classic Dwarfs from WHFB and threw them into NPC status and tried to make a bigger better army using slayers but forgot to actually include the fluff that made slayers interesting. They did “Ok” with KO but preceded to nerf them into near uselessness.
>>63400663Too many to listWhich factions are you interested in?What kind of playstyle do you want?
>>63400593>>63399795All KO airships are extremely mediocre. They are absurdly pilowfisted, almost as fragile as the units they carry, and have to disembark before they move (IE-worthless). If they are killed in close combat, there is a very good chance the embarked unit is instantly killed and even without, they kill 1/6.Awful, awful units.Gunhaulers are the worst because they just accomplish nothing at all. Their sole purpose is to shoot people and they cannot even do that.Ironclads are the least-bad because you can do gimmicks like Zilfin Deep Strike, but even then you can do much better for *420* points.KO are far better used as a gunline, hiding behind allied or GA meatshields rather than zipping about in boats.Optimal ratio is therefore 0:1Continuing the rants, Skywardens are pretty much 100% obsolete because Endrinriggers deal more damage in every situation against every target. They also synergise much better with Khemists.Skywardens either need to be made cheaper or better relative to Riggers, because they perform the same role except literally worse in all instances.
>>63400415And all those god related units are generic battleline? wtf
>>63400745They also forgot to give Fyreslayers over 1 design
>>63400810Come on Anon - you are better than this. Just check the warscroll builder by yourself and see which units are just "battleline"
>>63400648gloss or not, i consider the reikland shade step necessary since if you just raw gold and highlight it does indeed look very bland. With the gloss, it makes even the small shadows catch the light, so if you're looking for Gleaming Paragons Who Step Out Of Legend yeah go for the gloss. Admittedly, I'm pretty much exclusively collecting Sacrosanct Chamber stuff so everyone has nice robes to paint dark blue to provide contrast. (and yeah I know I'll want a stardrake at some point, that can wait until I have an army that functions)
>>63400745>Because they took the beloved classic Dwarfs from WHFB and threw them into NPC status and tried to make a bigger better army using slayers but forgot to actually include the fluff that made slayers interesting.Every fucking thread.
>>63400827I have no idea how you would differentiate Fyreslayer units during an endgame blob
>>63400877Hopefully the player would have the sense to paint them differently according to their role, maybe even a different tone of flesh just to tell them apart.realistically it'll just be a tide of orange mohawks.
>>63400793I have no idea how he wants to play which is why I was hoping for a generalized list. I can try to find out from him
>>63400956He should pick 3-4 best looking factions and then check if any of them fits his desired playstyle.
Two questions, what size base does a Chaos Sorcerer on Steed use and does using Mark of the All Favored give all of bonuses of Immortal Champion if I give it to a Daemon Prince
>>63400808Gunhaulers should have a 4+ save minimum and anything bigger should have a 3+Also yes, boats(actually everything ko) need to be completely reworked so they aren't unusable trash
>>63400877easy. Add a small stripe of color to the base rim to designate units. For example, one unit of 30 could have a few red stripes around their base, another could have blue, another green, etc. Or you could paint mohawks as different colors
>>63401074Fatemaster gets a neat rule where in the combat phase it gets a 2+ to its save rolls unless the thing attacking it can fly. Frigate could keep its 4+ save if it got a similar rule imo.
freeguild general's trait indomitable give +1 to saves. do saves granted by spells get buffed by this or do spells 6+ saves not count as saves?
>>63400956pick by aesthetics
How to fix KO:Arkanauts get a max unit size cost of 400Gunhaulers battleline in KO armyGunhauler -20ptThunderers -20ptFrigate -20ptIronclad -60ptThey need new battalions and their heroes need new abilities that actually buff their units, but until they get new warscrolls this would be enough to make them good enough for tournament play
>>63401170save is only against weapon attacksignoring wounds on a roll of a 6+ is not a save
>>63401291Honestly I think the biggest issue with their boats is that they just don't ever DO anything, GW needs to stop pussyfooting around consistent damage And throw some armies a boneHonestly I think if they changed the gunhaulers cannon to a 3+/2+/-2/3 flat it would see a lot more play, same with the ironclad if they buffed up it's ranged capabilities
>>63401313yeah just curious. thanks for the answer.guess it would be too nuts if that was the case.do those 6+ (not)saves stack too? like the one from the high aelf elemental shield as well as the one from the luminark of hysh?
>>63401373they all "stack" in the sense that you can use them allif you have 3 abilities that ignore wounds on a 6+ you can roll for all 3 of them
>>63401362It wouldnt be a problem if their heroes actually buffed their units. If the admiral gave nearby units +1 hit it would be a great faction.The only hero worth using is the Khemist because he actually buffs your dudes.
>>63401291Arkanauts trading 1 Pistol shot for 1 Cutter attack redefines their role a little.Thunderers weapons; Mortar gets a range increase, all bumped to 2/5 allowance.Skywardens get cheaper and/or a charge buff/retreat and charge.Personally prefer Endrinriggers getting nerfed melee in exchange for better repairs and the ability to overclock Skyvessels somehow.All Skyvessels get boosted firepower; more shots, more accurate and long/short profiles.Khemist being rejigged into 'Unit rerolls 1s to Wound' or something would be easier to work with.Admiral going to A3 on the Hammer.General book-keeping like making the Transport rules common, or putting the Navigator buff on his own Warscroll.Trouble with price cuts is that the Skyvessels are still very expensive £-wise. Ideally you don't want them to drop below 120/200/280pts respectively, so just make them worthwhile at those values.
>>63401646i would prefer new warscrolls toomaybe when they get a faction update in 3 years
>>63401686They gave Thunderers a new warscroll. Nerfing the shit out of them.
>>63401761yeah theyre shit now, but they did that so the warscroll matched the contents of the boxarkanauts have the same problem with their special weapons, but thunderers were a really egregious case
I just noticed that my favourite online retailer has removed the Greenskinz section from their store. They only sell the start collecting box now. That hurts.
I remember there being a discussion on slaves to darkness last thread. Why are they bad?I want some chaos warriors and make a soup list
Any idea for a cheap plastic Varghulf Courtier conversion? I thought about using an Ogroid Thaumaturge but that shit is quite expensive.
>>63402140They can take many hits but have next to no rend to kill shit. Really good anvil with no hammer to smash.
>>63400414You must be retarded because Phil Kelly confirmed it was them and also they are mentioned near the beginning of the core book as cruel slave drivers in iron masks It's chorfs you dingus
Why do people keep pushing this meme that AoS is unbalanced when 40k is perfectly balanced
>>63402365>40k is perfectly balancedEverything is balanced when there's no real variety
>>63402365I was playing both but dropped 40k recently because I find AoS way more balanced. I still like to play casual games with my no-Primaris DW list but fuck any competitive 40k events. Shit is ridiculous at this point.
>>63402336Chorfs are in a weird spot, narratively (like a lot in AoS). Azgorh was definitely the old fortress, and the legion of Azgorh itself was a penal legion not really representative of the wider chorf military. It's too bad the hongoblins never got updated, too. Forgeworld did do a pretty good job with the keyword update. Zharr Gorroth (chorfs) and Ba'Hal (bull centaurs) sound like actual things, as opposed to Ogors, Aelves, Orruks, and Shaerks.
>>63402499FW brought back Dawi Zharr which is fantastic
how to build the seraphon starclaw strikehost?troglodon, skinks with blowspitters and maces, and all ripperdactyls?
>>63402515I thought it was really weird how GW abandoned their whole unique naming convention with Dawi, Grobi, etc.
>>63400345Knights Excelsior. Fluff is the best, I like that they are already so close to the robots of order that all Stormcast will become.
>>63400861He's just being a faggot. Poor bait post.
>Kharadron attract Tau players who only want to table you in the shooting phase. >GW is aware of this and will never make them tournament worthy because they don't want WAACfags to ruin AOS.Prove me wrong.
>>63402499Shaerk is not even real, stop being a fag.
There is surprisingly much love for FEC on /aosg/ lately. What's going on? Also how are FEC anyway? Are they fun and fluffy to play on casual level against no-tryhards? I have never played with nor against them but they are growing on me.>>63402707To be fair, a proper search engine for AoS units would be quite fucking handy. Something that lets you type "order battleline" and get a list of all battleline units with an Order keyword. Searching by sections on GW store is buggy.
>>63402735Go back to your containment thread.
>>63402735You are aware that Gunline spam FG exists, right?
>>63402707Fuck off, I need to search in all the different units list for the generic battleline, it was just a question to people that know the game better than me.You know, trying to get some knowledge before throwing myself in a discussion.Bait my ass.
>>63402903yup, and they're never going to get any support for the same reason.
>>63402904Also at the start of 8th Razorback spam with Gulliman, or the flyer spam, or ig lists.
>>63402906Look through Warscroll Builder. It tells you not just what which unit costs, it also tells you what units are Battleline for whom. No need to dig through lists.
Hallowed Knights "Only the Faithful" ability, does this affect buffing their own units with spells? How badly does this fuck them over if they run heavy on Sacrosanct minis?
>>63400345Anvils and Knights Excelsior, no contest. Great schemes, interesting fluff, good "gimmicks".
>>63400658Most stormcast models have pegs under their shoulders and so look absolutely awful with none on.
>>63403101Hilariously, yes.Not terribly since the only actual spell buff worth using in sacrosanct is Empower and you can try to cast that multiple times if you somehow fuck it up. It makes relying on Arcanum/invocator buffs tricky though, but you can always just not run the Hallowed Knights battalion if you're running heavy spell buff lists even if you're <Hallowed Knights>. You'll have an ass ton of unbind attempts anyway.
>>63401162Frigate is currently a 5+ tho
When’s the last time we’ve gotten AoS news that’s not Shadspire or Realm of Chaos?
>>63403448Blood and Glory when we got the next Battle Tome announcement.
>>63403448we just got the new edition of AoS skirmish leaked this week. Hopefully it gets the kill team treatment.
>>63403527This terrain was designed for an AoS skirmish box game which is going to be a AoS version of kill team.Source: my sister works at GW
>>63403600I hope its as good of a deal as the kill team box wasalso as a stormcast player I literally want the two teams to be anything except stormcast vs something
>>63403628ahahaha, nostormcast sanctishock chamber soon
>>63403101It does affect friendly spells but the good news is the bulk of your synergies don't actually come from your spells.
>>63403645I wouldnt mind new stormcast models, I just dont want a unit of sequitors vs 20 chainrasps or something.
>>63402904It's not as strong as you believe. I've been able to outshoot it with Wanderers.
>>63403769to be fair FG gunlines weakness is ironically high volume low strength shooting
what should I buy to start off playing tzeentch?
>>63403882A box of Kairics is hard to go wrong, Pink/Blue Horrors are also solid. What's your budget to get started?
>>63403920I figured a SC is usually the best bet but wanted to double check and be aware of must-getshorrors good, got it
>>63403966The Tzeentch SC is really good for summoning fodder but isn't actually a good basis for most DoT lists.
>>63403882Listen to this guy >>63403920>>63403983
>>63403882I suppose the Tzeentch Battleforce Box. If you are willing to spend £100 right off the bat of course.
>>63403983so birdmen over blobmen?
>>63404314Its not a particularly good place to start with Disciples - most of the demon units are pretty underwhelming. >>63404369Birdmen but mostly the on disc variants, LoC is rock solid as well. Tzeentch tends to be a character heavy army with a lot of seemingly counter intuitive tricks. Things like killing your own pink horrors with endless spells - then using a '1' fate dice to replenish the unit and summon a unit of blues at the same time.
r8 my army
>>63400663>Shooting spam armiesSCEKOFreeguildSylvaneth/WanderersClan SkryreBCRGitmob>Run in quick and kill shit armiesDeepkinDoKKhorneSlaanesh>Low model "elite" armiesNurgleSCEIronjawzBCREverchosen>Horde armies with a bunch of dudesFreeguildFyreslayersBonesplitterzMoonclan GrotsClan PestilensLoNFEC>Mortal wound/Magic heavy armiesTzeentchBonesplitterz shaman spamSeraphon NighthauntLoNClan Skryre>All-around armiesSCESeraphonAelvesSlaves to DarknessBeasts of ChaosNurgle>Potato armiesdispossessed autistsratfags
What do I need to start Dispossessed?
>>63404439>low self esteem>a victim complex >autismThat should cover it.
>>63404439Bad taste and masochism
>>63404439buy a box man i like dispossesed i wish i was your friend
>>63404425solid and accurate list. I'd like to add Devoted of Sigmar to the "Horde armies with a bunch of dudes" because Flagellants are complete trash unless in max units. Then let the hilarity ensue.
>>63404477>>63404498>>63404484Why does everyone hate Dispossessed?
>>6340441010/10Perfection incarnate. If they're actually yours, that is.
>>63404425>AelvesThe fuck does that mean? Most of the playable elf armies such as Order Draconis go into the elite bracket anyway.
>>63404550A very dedicated whiny dispossessed player taking his frustration out on the general.
>>63404425Dispossessed belongs in Hoard
>>63402432This. I hate when people ask for every faction in AoS to all have access to the same types of units. No, dispossessed don't need a quick unit or more flyers. No, Kharadron don't need tanks or better ground units. No, not every faction needs to be on a level playing field.Homogenizing the factions is the quickest way to kill the game and for some reason people don't get that
>>63404397>a lot of seemingly counter intuitive tricks. Things like killing your own pink horrors with endless spells - then using a '1' fate dice to replenish the unit and summon a unit of blues at the same time.beautiful and absolutely in character
>>63404550Several years of ceaseless complaining will do that to you
>>63404550The same reason people hate the skaven wank ratfags, the anti-stormcast guys (and the pro-stormcast guys), and any models with square bases. Autism
>>63404574There needs to be some viable strategies for the armies though. It can’t all just be strictly their main play style and that’s the end of it. There needs to be some flexibility.
>>63404606Yeah, nobody actually hates the minis with square bases.
>63404410No (You) for you shitposter.
>>63404566Honestly I don't really know shit about them, plus they have like 20 different factions so I just threw them into the all-around.
>>63404629that's why there's an ally system
>>63404606>>63404634Shut the fuck up. The only reason people hate square bases is because none of the players that use square bases measure to/from their minis as if they were on their appropriately sized rounds. I don't care if you use squares, I start caring when you're taking advantage of your square bases to pile in more guys and cheat
>>63404723> watch a video thats like an hour and a half of some major youtuber getting into age of sigmar for the first time> his opponent puts his square bases base to base and tries to count the back line as attacks with 1"> guy new to age of sigmar calls him outfucking scum faggot
>>63404650Order Draconis and Phoenix Temple are elite, Order Serpentis is fast, Eldritch Temple is magical. The rest doesn't matter.
>>63404723*blocks your path
>>63404425nice, tzeentch also has some shooting and melee, if not all around I think they go with shooting spam
>>63404762This is why I refuse to play with square-fags unless they know how to measure their shit right. People will just assume you're okay with them having an advantage over you and not say anything until you do. Fuck that.
>>63404800I think I just threw up
>>63404567this, there is one autist here perpetually butthurt over dispossessed >>63404397>most of the demon units are pretty underwhelmingother than horrors?
>>63404723NO ONE CARES
>>63404844Well considering I do, and I exist, then that's just objectively false.
>>63404777Scourge Privateers are really undecided what they want to be, but their good unit is the chariot, so you can also classify them as fast
>>63404839He meant the opposite
>>63404685There’s not enough ally points to fix Dispossessed
>>63404839Correct, Pinks are solid because they're really great summoning fodder and can cast a spell to build summoning points.
>>63404852YOU FUCKING RETARD. NO ONE CARES YOU CARE
>>63404935But what if nobody cares that you don't care that I don't care?
>>63404935t. Squarebased Waacfag
>>63404910that's what you get for playing grogshit anyways
>>63404550>no battletome>old models>shit tier competitively>annoying playerbasePick any reason you like more.
>>63405059> no battletomeso I guess every skaven that isnt pestilens or skryre is shit too
>>63404904>He meant the opposite>>63404918>CorrectWell, judging by how it doesn't seem that clear cut, I'm not going to sweat it
>>63405212Not going to sweat what?
>>63405225whether daemons are good to get or not
> go to flgs on sigmar night> half dozen players> go to open table and start taking out my units> guy comes up, introduces himself, asks if I want to play> "sure lets get a game going, table looks good as is, what are you playing?"> beastmen he says> he pulls out square bases with paper printouts of gors and ungors> "do you mind if I proxy?"
>>63405259Oh, they're not. You can still have fun with them and they're good to be able to summon strategically but other than the various horrors (pink/blue/brims) they're over costed for what you get out of them. Don't think that was ever really unclear.
>>63399980Haha, that image is very representative of the Age of Shitmar franchise.
>>63405282>sure, if you don't mind this skeleton being a proxy for Archaeon, this skeleton being a Bloodthirster, this skeleton being a ............
>>63405086Pick a different argument, that one is shit
>>63404425dispossessed will be avenged
Exactly where the fuck is the mortal realms? Is there a map of any of this shit? The only warhammer fantasy geography that I makes sense is ye olde shit, with Lustria, Southlands, Old World, Chaos Wastes, Badlands, etc. Like what the fuck is the current actual geography or is it supposed to be wibbly wobbly make it up as you go bullshit
>>63404562It isn't I was just trolling due to shear malice but I forgot that brets got rules. Whoops. I respect your response though.
>>63405785There are maps of several of the realms in the main rule book. Each realm is its own world.
> when ur chillin in the couch watchin The Office and your roommate comes home and he brought you taco bell
>>63405282I wanted to proxy a gunmaster to test out an Ironweld ally build but I only had a cogsmith. If he is on 25mm and I placed an order at the shop to get one in, is it ok to proxy?
>>63406037Its fine for friendly games
Should I paint the TORNADO OF HAMMERS before or after assembly? It's hard to fucking tell
>>63405282Tell proxyfags to stop being poor
>>63405478Note that it is on a square base. Clearly the grog sack is leaking.
>>63405785How about you put in some actual effort and read the Core Book. All the questions you have concerning geography, histories and cultures are answered in the Core Book.
>>63406709> 322 pagesnah I'll just ask here every other thread or so until I get a summed up answer
>>63406105assemble and paint, but don't attach to base until painted. Leaving the vortex on the base while you paint it makes it extremely hard to paint the inside
>>63406727Hurr durr what is a fucking Index? Are you retarded bro, or have you just never used a book before? you don't actually care to know, you just want to be spoonfed so you can shitpost whenever someone replies. If you actually want to know the lore, look up and read the relevant sections, otherwise fuck off
>>63406771see you in a few generals!
>>63406727why would you do it that way though? 99% of the time when someone "summarizes" the lore, they get half of the shit wrong or use outdated info. If you want to know the accurate & current up-to-date lore, the core book is your only option
>>63406799Yep, and I'll tell you the exact same thing then. Read the book or fuck off, there are no other options
>>63406727>he thinks 322 pages is a lot hahahahahahahahahahha the utter state of wargamers
>>63400345Astral Templars, because they're basically the stereotypical barbarian warriors in plate. I've been thinking of grabbing some SCE to add to my Order force, but dunno if they should be regular or Vanguard and doing em up as Astral Templars.
>>63400555Some of them still got taken fresh, like Farrus Thawn from Soul Wars
>>63405785AoS 2.0 core book does quite a bit to ground the setting. But yes, the "maps" or all infinitely expanding flatlands that are stable in the "middle," and begin to meme harder and harder for whatever realm of magic they represent. The realm of death is the opposite, with death memeing happening the hardest at its apex, which was the result of Nagash's dickery. The maps have tiny areas jutted out with random fortresses or lands, and the stable portions of each realm are explained to be about the square mileage of a super earth. So the setting's cosmology and grounding is there, but yes it is still all asspull choose your own adventures. Anything goes so long as it's prefaced with whereabouts in what realm, which is a vast, effectively infinite amount of space.
>>63406732Hrm. That seems like the best choice, thanks. Does this apply to an airbrush as well? I haven't gotten to use mine yet, but it's an options
>>63407512an airbrush would probably be fine as long as you get good angles and dont over-do the outside in the process. I've never used one though so idk.
>>63399980r8 my paintjob
Thoughts on Gutrot Spume? The Master of the Slime Fleet ability seems good considering how slow nurgle can be.
>>63407400>>63407400All yeah, and there's an "allpoints" mashup zone that has a central nexus of portals to all realms in pretty close proximity. It is hotly contested. Its worth noting that the setting removes itself from WFB with a few epochs. At one point chaos was at its zenith and essentially reigned in all, or most realms, for example. There was a "Sigmar's 'Great Crusade'" era, and I think it then progresses into what we have now, which is a comfy standoff with all cosmological powers relatively equal in territory and influence as a setting for a battles game.
>recently get large collection of unassembled SC stuff >still haven't touched them I can't tell if I've made a mistake or not.
>>63403527>>63403600this is all I want to play this shitty game again
>tell myself I'm not going to buy anymore models till I get some real progress done on my current unpainted dudes, since money is getting tighter due to holidays>have to order $80 of paints since no LGSThere really is no way to do this hobby without bleeding cash.
>>63408246>ordering citadel paints on a tight budgetAnon other people make acrylics.
>>63407587Bad picture/10. Throw those in your fridge. From what I can tell it looks solid. Basing is solid and at first glance none of the metal is overbright.
>>63405282Well he asked. You can always say no.
why does this game have so many mini and micro factions it just makes them hard to play monofaction because of a lack of options
>>63409058>hurr why are the armies themed? I want muh cheese soup!
Tell me about Slaanesh /aosg/ is it a viable army to play right now? I've seen a couple of lists that got 4th-5th, 7th place in various GT's but I'm not sure about them.Also do you think we'll actually get new models and rules for Slaanesh this year? I'm thinking the Realm of Chaos boxset might be simple bait and then nothing for a long time.I have some Slaanesh models from old days so I was thinking if I should get into AoS. This would be my first army.
>>63409290>I wish factions were meatier and more standalone>u must wan chese xd and soypEnd yourself
>>63409775They already are grog, stop wishing you had Fantasy back.
>>63409290The mini 'armies' with only 2 units to their name only encourage soup. They're clearly a huge mistake from the Kirby era and no one likes them. Fingers crossed 2019 has GW focus on AoS to throw out as many battletomes as possible.
>>63409809No, they are utility forces meant to add to other forces.You call it soup, normal people call it balance.
>>63409808You are an actual retard. I am honestly shocked how someone can be this stupid and understand nothing.
>>63409839>fans of the micro factions have to rely on major armies they don't want to play in order to be balanced>major armies have to sometimes dip into non-thematic options from micro faction in order to minmax every advantageOh yeah, just what everyone wants. neck yourself
>>63409809According to the rumored 2019 plan there will be no focus on AoS. Moonclan and maybe 1 more codex is all we can hope for.
>>63409808I'm complaining about faction division you lead huffer
>>63409896>waaaaa, waaaaaa, I can't play open or narrative I have to netlist and not play a thematic list because I'm fucking autistic!>waaaaaa>>63409936Uh huh.
>>63409959I'm convinced you're trolling now, in which case congratulation you were only pretending to be retarded. Or you just genuinely can't abide by people wanting nice things at no cost to yourself.Again though, neck yourself.
>>63410064>enabling waacfaggotry doesn't affect meDingleberry.
>>63409959What the fuck are you even trying to argue. Reread your posts sans memes and buzzwords
Does YourDudes believe in the sphere realm theory?
>>63409522Right now not really. Only build them if you love the faction. Otherwise wait for the book next year
If I bring a banner and a horn tooter in a group of 10 warriors do I still get to roll attacks as though all 10 had weapons?
>>63410254I literally have nothing to play then. Basically none of the factions really interest me in terms of models. Loan could be decent but everyone plays them and I rather not join the club. Tzeentch maybe? They are trash competitively though right?Khorne has great models but it's all Bloodthirsters, Bloodletters and Hounds and I rather play mortals.I can't get excited by any faction and that pisses me off as I want to play AoS but can't find my place.
>>63410609I meant LoN and that everyone plays them in my city. Last tournament I checked out was essentially 70 Death.
>>63402141Do similar to mine, the hair is grass painted over.
>>63410776>5.07 MB>that res>applying flock to a miniature>painting over the flock
>>63404425Dryad sylvaneth is competitive and hordey
>>63410776hahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaah oh no no no no no no
>>63410883Maybe the previous photo wasn't the best.>>63410815Shitty smartphone that's 8 yers old and refuses to die.Also with 2 layers of Rakarth Flesh + 2 layers of some acrylic brown and some washes, the "fur" became pretty solid. The photos ain't the best, but it has a fluffy look at it while being solidm
How viable is all-cavalry stormcast? If they are bad, are there any other armies that do all-cavalry well?
>In the chapel of the Order of the Ardent Star, Sir Aenea prays to the warrior goddess Myrmidia for guidance. And with an army of rampaging Khornate warriors outside, she has never needed her deity's guidance more. Her master is dead at the hands of the Chaos warleader, her comrades brought low by the seemingly unstoppable champion of the Blood God. With fewer than a hundred of their number left, the only hope for survival lies in a desperate sally forth from their fortress, seeking the indomitable redoubt of the distant Drakenount.Myrmidia? Another of WHFB's things in AoS? This getting tiresome. What's the point of blowing up a world if plenty of its things get to exist in the new world? Next they are going bring back the fucking Tomb Kings.
>>63410984that's an interesting idea for fur, probably more troublesome then sculpting with greenstuff. >>63411013brass stampede and deepkin can be all mounted
This month's issue of white dwarf comes with "free gifts" - but it's all cheap printed stuff; cards, booklets etc.Remember when the gifts were actually cool shit like a free mini or two?
>>63406037just do it with somebody you already know and ask beforehand.
>>63411027idk there wasn't much on Myrmidia in WFB so it's neat to get an exploration of that Plus it's nice to have war gods other than sigmar to have /yourdudes/ worship
>>63411033In no way is applying PSA glue and then dumping the miniature in a bowl of Static Grass more troublesome that sculpting it, the problem might simply com when you base and the grass wasn't well glued. In that case, just repeat the same in the bald spots.Pic related is the miniature after a layer of Rakarth Flesh (or Debed Stone).The Washes will comb the fur in place.
>>63411027Just because there are people that worship Myrmidia, doesn't mean she survived. There could be any number of explanations why some humans found evidence of an ancient goddess and began worshiping her. AoS lore can be neat because it's self-referential to it's own reboot. The world that was didn't completely disappear, so from time to time there are things that will resurface.Half the fun of the new Gotrek stuff is him reacting to AoS shit like a stereotypical /tg/ grognard.
>tfw finals are killing me and I wish I was at the local store rolling dice and pushing around little dorfs.
>>63411088>AoS lore can be neat because it regurgitates things from the old setting in a failing attempt at mending the burnt bridge no one, much less the fantasy players, wants rebuilt
>>63411067i've done a lot of sculpting, and you basically pull it into shape. on the other hand i am terrible at basing and my stuff always flakes.
>>63411137>in a failing attempt at mending the burnt bridge no one, much less the fantasy players, wants rebuiltNo one cares about mending any bridges with you faggots. It's just interesting to see scraps of lore resurface and see how the people in the current setting react to it.
>>63411187He needs to believe that GW want to mend the bridges with Fantasy because its the only way he can have hope for his dead setting.
>>63411187>cannibalizing fluff is interesting
With all the rotflies in nurgle's garden, does it also have daemon-spiders?What would happen if a rotfly got caught in an arachnarok spider's web?
Explain me a thing with Tzaangors. Only one needs to be equipped with a shield for them all to get the 6+ save after the save right? Do I then have to take the wound on that guy or can the wound be taken on someone else?
>>63411243Not like they went anywhere with that fluff in wfb. Hilariously Myrmidia had more space dedicated to her than Sigmar did in WFRP 1ed and then got promptly forgoten
>>63411243>I can't come up with a reason for why it's not interesting so I'll just use meme arrows and act like I know what I'm talking about
>>63411246If you save with the shield if it fails you have to assign wounds to shield guy first
>>63411250Yes anon, it is so interesting that a dead goddess that the people would have no way of knowing existed since the ruins of the civilizations she was relevant in are fucking destroyed and on a ball of flame know she was a thing that existed.>being triggered by arrows
>>63411259Aren't saves done on a unit basis, not model basis? Wound allocation however is done on a unit basis tho. It's one of the weirder things between AoS and 40k.
>>63411027Since GA order we have known that sigmar taught the culture even some of the faiths from the Empire. It is been known that the cult of Myrmydia exists in hysh for half a year by now, dear outrage merchant.
>>63411274>Q: When a model/unit has a special saving throw arisingfrom an ability that can be used whenever they suffer a wound or mortal wound, is it taken after normal saves but before damage is determined (i.e. between steps 3 and 4 of theattack sequence)?> A: No, such special saving throws are taken after damage is determined and as each individual wound is allocated to a model that has such a save (see ‘Inflicting Damage’on the rules sheet). AoS_FAQ_The_Rules_v1.1-1 says
>>63411337Ah, thanks. I was going off the normal sequence and had not checked the FAQ. Cool beans.
>>63411259Okay thanks. That means it makes sense to bring more than one shield dude.
>>63411279>GA order we have known that sigmar taught the culture even some of the faiths from the EmpireReference?
The freeguild go to great effort to engrave 'Franz' and 'KF' into their armor and banners etc., demonstrating they do indeed remember the old world. Models are canon.
>>63411415GW should just make Karl Franz the Ollanius Pius of AoS.
>>63409522They are a completely fine army. Midtier.They are getting a lot of success because Slaanesh is a major army in terms of rules but have a player base as a minor one. People just never face them and are completely unprepared for the tools they have. The only downside is that you need a KoS, and the model still need to be replace.Daemonettes are one of the best infantry in the game, Hellstriders are a fantastic support. Everything else is average.You can totally start collecting it, just don't expect to completely crush your enemies before the KoS.
>play slow defensive army in AoS with Dispossessed >Start 40k>immediately drawn toward slow defensive Custodes armyI’m not a very bright man.
>>63411500You can go pretty fast with their jetbikes, though.
The only good thing about dispossessed is irondrakes
>>63411685Irondrakes and Ironbreakers have a nice aesthetic
>>63411699Really nice aesthetic, i hope they make them into an actual faction. its the only non-goblin faction that tempts me.
>>63411739If I hadn't cut myself off hard from buying new armies wholesale, a big Irondrake/breaker army was high on my to do list, including getting extra bits and pieces to convert or kitbash up a Dwarf King and Runelord and all that in the same style
So I'm buying shadows over hammerhal for warhammer quest. Anyone know if with some tweeks I can use different minis in it? For example I have some leftover nighthaunts. Would they be usable with some house ruling?
>>63412027>nighthauntsI remember official rules in a WD
Why are French AoS players so unbelievably shit? I'm in France right now and trying to play AoS with people, and they have zero idea of good sportsmanship, they're all fucking douchebags. Bullshit deployments, double checking every rule I bring up, and loudly gloating after winning against a potato army.
>>63412097> Why are French people such twats
How is this for a Lizardmen list? Thinking about how to expand the christmas battleforce to 2000 points. I know they‘re probably not that good, but I‘d like to include a horde if saurus warriors in the list somehow.Hero‘s:>Slaan (great rememberer, incandescent retrieces)>Oldblood (Coronal Shield)>Astrolith Bearer>Skink StarpriestUnits>10 Skinks>10 Skinks>40 Saurus Warriors>6 Ripperdactyls>1 Bastilodon>1 TroglodonBattalion:Shadowstrike Starhost2000/2000122 wounds
This is a Deepkin story, right? The description only mentions Tzeentch shenanigans and no Deepkin, but the kraken on the cover looks very Deepkin-like. I would only be interested in reading it if it's actually about Deepkin, as I don't care too much about Chaos shit.
>>63412097I've never meet a nice french guy
>>63412198I've met a few French people who were super nice to girls, but absolute assholes to men. It may be cultural.
>>63412097>French need open air urinals and 'Incivility Brigade' to stop people pissing on historic locations and stop ambient smell of pissThe absolute state of France, so many of them are animals.
How are the Khorne guys? I have a hankering to paint some red. Bloodbound look pretty cool.
>>63400191These numbers do not represent the entire player base you retard.
>>63412104>>63412198>>63412259It's the Northern French that are cunts. Southern French are great people.
>>63411027Doesn't bother me, just adds to the new setting. I like that Order has more than one god.
>>63411088>Gotrek drunkenly wandering the ramparts of Hammerhal blabbering and asking people if they're Felix and then yells at the Chaos army beyond the lava moat that he fought and beat them at Praag and he can do it againAmazing
>>63412626>Gotrek walks up to Stormcast Eternal>knocks on the breastplate>"What the hell are you doing?">"Felix? Are you in there?"
Anyone know good places to get cheap minis in Australia? Best way I've found so far is ordering from UK or Poland via ebay
GW have caved to SJW outrage and renamed a battle scenario to Ghast Harvest from Spook Harvest. Why does GW give in to them? What benefit is there?
>>63412711>>63412732>inb4 how dare you not believe me you sjw cucks
>>63410609Stop caring for tournament results, basically all the army arevery playable and you will have good results with them
>>63412661>Best way I've found so far is ordering from UK or Poland via ebayUK ebay has generally been the best for me as well.
>>63410623W-why does this vampire have a menorah?
>>63412179That's a Deepkin symbol. So it's about Tzeentchian dude who is about to get kraken'ed.
>>63412798He is a jewish vampire?
>>63411245The rotflies probably just puke everywhere and escape as their bile dissolves the web
>>63412775Trying to build myself a rotbringers army but even from the UK it's like $150 for 3 boxes of blightkings and it goes up to 180 once you factor in GST (fuck this GST on overseas imports shit) and postage
What's a better starting hero for a blightking-heavy list? Lord of plagues or blights?
>>63411027Why are people so mad about anything WFB here? The hatred of WFB some anons have here is bordering obsession.
>>63412959You can thank the grogs for that who made any discussion of AoS impossible outside of this general, and often inside it, too.
>>63409522There is still more happening model wise next year. Probably around April. GW staggers releases to do well each quarter. Slaanesh for AoS is probably next after the new goblins.
>>63412985Or maybe AoS players are just a little thin skinned and get defensive so quickly they are easily baited.You see plenty of AoS guys shitting on WHFB too, which is funny since it's the foundation that AoS is built on.
>>63412959>Not liking fantasy characters and locations getting shoehorned into every AoS book is obsessionIt would be fine if it was an occasional lore point or Easter egg, but ast this point it feels like they're trying to appeal to a nonexistent audience>>63411027>Next they're going to bring back the fucking Tomb KingsOh how I can wish
>>63412548>Frenchmen are cunts.>Occitanes are nice.Colour me surprised.
>>63413006This is nothing but a defensive reaction on their part, people get tired of being perpetually shit on with impunity and go on the offensive.
>>63412757Awesome, where does this say anything about spooks, shitposter-kun?
>>63413006>Fantasy is the foundation AoS was built onFantasy could have ever existed and AoS lore wouldn't have to change much if, at all, the only major change would be character origins and those could easily be moved to the age of myth
How do you feel about the increase in the use of 'scenery units'; wyldwoods, gnarlmaws etc?
>>63411465Yeah I was checking the army and it does look decent. I was considering it since I have some stuff from the old days like said Keeper of Secrets (metal), metal Daemonettes (though I'd buy the plastic ones to play), the Masque and some plastic Seekers and a pack of plastic Daemonettes I was going to convert into WFB harpies for Dark Elves long ago.I however need it to be viable for tournaments and I have no idea how well it works. It's not easy getting all of their rules since they are pretty scattered.>>63412761Tournaments is a major way people play where I live. They are very often bringing lots of people together. It's like that since WFB and back then the lists even for normal casual play were very nasty.I recently checked out a tournament and same nasty lists appear. I've been also told not to pick anything outside of the meta as I'll get destroyed. That's exactly how I remember my WFB times.Then again if I REALLY cared for the meta I wouldn't consider Slaanesh as he is not part of it. I just wanted to know if it's a viable army tournament wise.
>>63413047>Fantasy could have ever existed and AoS lore wouldn't have to change much if, at all,That's a ridiculously naive statement.The factions within the setting were clearly written around the available miniatures range existing in GW's catalog.If Fantasy hadn't existed AoS wouldn't even be called Age of Sigmar.
>>63413055I don’t really mind, it’s not like they are super expensive either l. Besides you only need 2-3 of them in a standard game anyway
>>63412798Menorah’s have 9 candles retard. Get educated.
>>63412993I really want to believe that but somehow I can't shake off the feeling that those couple of new models in the new boxset is just bait and that no new Slaanesh releases will happen anytime soon. From the rumored road map of releases it seems like they are focusing on 40k next year and releasing Slaanesh would mean that they'd have to release Malerion and/or Tyrion Aelves next as that's where Slaanesh would hit next. I doubt we are gonna have that many aelven releases next year.
>>63413055I'd feel a lot better about them if, like Endless Spells, using them would cost points. Because getting them from just the Allegiance Abilities essentially means you waste potential if you don't include them.
>>63413094Actually the classical menorah has 7 candles, so who's the retard?
>>63413055I feel bad about this one in particular because it's so ugly.
>>63413114I think the new elves come after Slaanesh breaks free as a response. Can’t trust the release leaks, most of them are guesses that are mostly wrong with one thing sort of correct. 40k will get Slaanesh first, but next year will see new models.
>>63413114We had two this year and it wasn't even the return of Slaanesh.
>>63413142wait til you see the moonclan one. mushroom cloud, from a mushroom, for mushrooms.
>>63413055I absolutely hate it. Small things are okay but bringing 3 woods or 2 fucking shipwrecks to tournaments is fucking ridiculous. The scenery should at least be cool and interesting like little dioramas for your dudes.
>>63413162YeahElves are a gushing blemish and not dissappearing soon
>local game store wants me to wear a shirt with their logo to tournaments>theyll pay my entrance feesshould i do it?
>>63412259No that's just tourists, homeless and drunkards. It's almost like our city is the most visited place in the world. Oh wait, it is.
>>63413497Yes.Then take that money and treat yourself to a nice lunch, a pint, or a box of minis. Even if you get pounded into the ground, you're still advertising, got in free, got a free T-shirt, and hopefully had a decent time.
>>63413546The tournaments are usually at other local stores. Isnt it a dick move to wear a shirt from another store?
>>63413527How's the AoS community in Thailand?
>>63413572Tournaments are always at wargaming clubs or rented exhibition halls where I live.
>>63413572I'd say it's kinda like band t-shirts. If you go to a concert and wear a t-shirt of the band you're currently seeing, you look like a lickspittle.
>>63413572Not if you're getting paid to do it. It's sponsorship, just like wearing any clothing with a logo on it. Like the Dallas Cowboys and wear their T-shirt? Your sponsoring them (very loose interpretation of the definition, I'll give you that.) Wearing that AC/DC shirt? same thing. Don't worry about it, Anon. It's just a T-shirt.
>>63413720It's literally a sponsorship.Does this make me a shill?
>>63413746shill? no. you have become Ninja the streamer. time to embrace the memes and roll with the cash >>63413572*big dick move
>>63413611Well shit, you're actually right. I suppose we're the most visited country but not thr most visited city. Still my point stands. The average French doesn't piss in the street.
>>63413746I don't think there's any more dancing around the issue. Do you have severe mental retardation?
>>63413777I play Warhammer. What do you think?
>>63413746>>63413764Agreed. You're not a shill. You're wearing a T-shirt that just so happens to have another store's logo on it. So what? That store may see it and may put their T-shirt on you or another player and send them to that store for their tournament. Anything to give somebody an edge over competition.
>>63413771I'm shocked that London is so high. I bet a half of the visitors are clueless amerimutts who think that it's all Big Bens and Westminster Abbeys, but end up facing eye-poppingly ugly 60's garbage and neglected mass-produced Victorian houses.
>>63413746i wear a ren and stimpy tshirt to events, it doesn't mean i'm shilling for nikolodeon.
>>63413746I'm afraid you might have IRL autism
>>63413746i hope you get beat by seraphon at that event, shill.
>>63413936>he doesn't realise it's the canadian seraphon retardhe always uses the same picture ffs
>>63413936Shill you fools!