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Top Tier army coming through edition

>Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 Prologue trailers
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>Previous thread:
>>63396445
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*blocks your path*
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Famulous model when?
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Faith is rewarded

I hope you dumb memers are ready for weeks of redoubled shitposting
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>>63398235
>Everyone discusses sisters and having fun
>I'm imagining the Tau salt overdose after they realize their only good units got nerfed, their buffs do nothing and Farsight 8 is a literal 1000 point pile of shit
Life is good Anons. Life is good.
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>>63398252
what's this abomination
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>>63398260
>I hope you dumb memers are ready for weeks of redoubled shitposting
So no different than any other week?
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>>63398269
Deredeo Dreadnought
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>>63398264
At 1k the eight are a huge discount for the units they contain
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>>63398260
I absolutely am.

>Faith is its own reward
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>>63398245
> repressor won't be one of them

What is the source of your baseless conviction ? We are just theory crafting, unless you are GW your word means nothing.
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>that high reading about New sisters rules
Followed by
>tfw every fucking power gaming faggot is going to pick them up
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I hope torchstar has wargear to make her flamers actually good
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>>63398260
Rules don't really matter until we get plastic sisters. So i am not excited.
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>>63398308
I can't wait for the tide of grey Sisters to hit my LGS.
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>>63398306
You're wishlisting. FW doesn't even make the repressor anymore and GW will mot be making new kits for sisters beyond converting some of their basic units to plastic. The repressor will not be supported in the beta codex or full codex and will remain in the index
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>>63398235
what rules do you guys think the dread mob will get

i bet they will get some sort of fnp
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>>63398308
Hows it gonna feel that in an edition everyone will think of sisters like people think of tau and guard?
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>>63398313
>Rules don't really matter until we get plastic sisters.
Bullshit, those of us who have had out SoB armies since 3rd edition still matter. Fuckoff newfag.
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>>63398289
Sure but their loadouts is not enough to offset the discount unless major buffs or wargearchanges are made
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>>63398336
Two people with shitty painted metal actually don't matter
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>>63398313

>Repet
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how to kit start collecting tau set?
also how do i designate one of xv8 battlesuits as a commander?
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>>63398290
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POST WHAT YOUVE BEEN WORKING ON RECENTLY ANONS!

Ive been speed painting these guys so i can get them ready for a 4000pt force in a few weeks, only one more then i can move on to a Achillus Dred amd some Allarus Terminators.
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Repostan from 2 threads ago because sisters autism peaked before I could

A buddy of mine plays mechanicus in 30k and wants to try homebrewing rules in 40k, we figured we would start with his centerpiece and work down, how do these rules look?

>thanatar
>Unit size 1-3
>Points:?
>M* WS4+ BS* S* T8 W16 A4 LD8 SV2+
>(9-16) M10" BS3+ S8
>(4-8) M6" BS4+ S7
>(1-3) M3" BS5+ S6

>WEAPONS
>Hellix plasma mortar
>heavyD6 48" S8 AP-4 Dd6
For every 5(?) models in a unit, add d3 to the amount of shots for this weapon
Against <VEHICLES> and <MONSTERS> change this weapons profile to 6 shots and D6

>Mauler bolt cannon
>Heavy3 24" range S6 AP-2 D2
Enemy <INFANTRY> that take any wounds from this weapon halve their movement until the end of their turn

>Crushing blows
>MELEE S: user AP-1 Dd3
Make two hit rolls for every attack with this weapon instead of one

>RULES
>Reactor breach
When thisodel is reduced to zero wounds, roll a die, on a 4+ it explodes, causing d3 mortal wounds to everything within 6"
>automated shielding
This unit has a 5++ against shooting and a 6++ against melee attacks, but explodes on a 4+
>Programmed Intelligence
This unit cannot be affected by rules and abilities that target it's leadership (Eg. The horror, mind control, etc.) And automatically passes leadership tests
>Lumbering giant
This unit may not run or consolidate
>Cybernetic resilliance
This unit has a 6+ feel no pain, if it already has a simmilar rule, improve that rules feel no pain by 1

Other rules and abilities are up in the air, but this would be the baseline we work off of
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>>63398364
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>Sanctuary 101 boxset
>New plastic sisters
>Pariahs with models and lore of them harvesting blanks for nefarious yet anti-chaos purposes
>Named character jump lord who looks like the old style wraiths to match this classic artwork

Make it happen GW, and my life up to this point will be justified.
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>make sisters overpowered
>everyone gravitates towards them
>they become the face of the game
>suddenly women as space marines doesn't sound so absurd
You're all getting played, screencap this.
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I really hate the plastic necrons
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>>63398264
What's getting nerfed?
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>>63398357
>also how do i designate one of xv8 battlesuits as a commander?
4 weapons instead of 3 is the only difference in outward apperance except for the paintjob. They have their rank displayed in colour on the head and shoulder.
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>>63398308
>Beta rules are OP to build hype.
>Codex drops and the WAACs flock to it buying tons.
>Gets nerfed to average in the postFAQ in 2 weeks

Got 'em
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>>63398381

I don't play anything other than eldar so I won't get played at all.
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>>63398369

Give him adulerate rules for the other two thanatar loadouts whilst you’re at it.
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>>63398370
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>>63398381
You're deluded if you think the space marines won't always be the poster boys.
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>>63398386
thanks
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>>63398364
Why does a literal machine of death and decapitation clad in the finest power armor known to man wear leather boots and gloves?
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>>63398378
>Pariahs with models and lore of them harvesting SISTERS OF SILENCE for nefarious yet anti-chaos purposes

Ftfy
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>>63398395
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>>63398362
What is Saint Duncan doing looking at that filth?
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>>63398407
Would you tell a "literal machine of death and decapitation clad in the finest power armor known to man" that he can't wear his leather boots and riding gloves?
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>>63398407
To style on you
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>>63398407
Fashion. The perfect man needs the perfect attire.
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>>63398407
Finer motor control for both the pedals as well as the steering wheel.
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Acts of Faith will be the next Ynnari Soulburst but it won't be nerfed because it's Imperium and shitsters of bAssholes "players" will shout it down
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>>63398407
Fetish shit.

>>63398372
Looks great Anon! How big is that shield by the way, would it look absurd on a Primaris Agressor size model?
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>>63398423
That's the stuff
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>>63398381
>suddenly women as space marines doesn't sound so absurd
But they wouldn't need them since sisters will be the new face of the game. Marines can go to being weird monks injecting their geneseed into young boys.
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I rly dont care about rules....it seems like GW give Inv saves like candy, sisters, skitarii you name it. Power creep in this game is unberable but hey you gota sell those new models +FW have to fuck things up with their shit too.
I want my girls in plastic soon.
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>thought about using the new Calgar model for a conversion
>he literally has the toilet ultras symbol on his model like 20 times over
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>>63398386
sorry, one more question
should i just paint the head and shoulder (and accenting colors) a different color compared to my other crisis suits?
or is there a specific color they should use?
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>>63398313
>knelt,
>repet,
>and
>died
what did anon mean by this?
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THROUGH FAITH AND FIRE!
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>>63398455
she can pour it down alright, whole another question is if she can hold it here
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>>63398459

>Skitarii
>Powercreep

Okay pal.
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>>63398450
Nope but DW tower shields are
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>>63398308
been looking for this image, thanks
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Doing something in the plot when?
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>>63398494
>Doing something in the plot when?
like most chaos warbands, they dont.
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>>63398417

>An entire sisters of silence convent harvested into pariahs

Honestly legit cool idea.
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>>63398494
When they're black and gold.
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>>63398470
I don't have my codex at hand so I do not remember any specifics.
I found this picture however to kinda give you an idea but I'm pretty sure it's in greater detail in the book.
There's also no reason why you have to follow these exact patterns for /yourdudes/
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>>63398494
>Doing something in the plot when?
If 1d4chan is to be believed, they are quiet, freaky powerful, and eat people.
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2, 4 or 8 decides my next army

not dg tau tyranids or deldar i have those
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>>63398524
SoS
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>>63398459
Yeah, really harsh how skitarii are dominating the worldwide meta with their nigh unfailable 6+ invulnerable save. I heard a story of some blokes vanguard that survived hurricane Katrina half of New Orleans gone but you can bet your augmented ass that Vanguard was holding his post as if the Omnissiah himself wanted some juicy poor boys.
Should have made Cadia out of skitarii, could have prevented this whole mess
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>>63398524
Marines
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>>63398524
Orks
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>>63398475
Wouldn't it be funny to see her pee out the Exterminatus? Haha, I mean as a joke! Haha would be funny interesting
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>>63398534
Hard yawn but looks like you're playing marines buddy
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>>63398534
F
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>>63398534
Guess we're going down this path huh
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>>63398534
Gottem
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>>63398516
so bottom right would be a commander helmet then?
thanks again for the help, appreciate it
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How long does warp travel usually take?
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>>63398579
Woah woah woah, he said marines, not ultras.
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>>63398579
you know, you don't have to run the big boi.

You could do any of the companies and make them your own
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>>63398593
~1 second to a couple hundred years
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>>63398579
M-m-maybe he meant chaos marines.
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>>63398602
>>63398608
Guess you're right

7 decides my chapter
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>>63398593
????????
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>>63398308
The either have to buy metal or wait for plastic which could be way later in the year. Also, who isn't surprised GW is going to make them OP to push sales?
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>>63398593
>How long does warp travel usually take?
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>>63398579

>Buying the shitty oversized centrepiece man instead of getting a leviathan or something to be your big guy
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>>63398626
Lamenters
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>>63398287
is it any good for a blood angels army in 8th?
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>>63398626
Ultramarines.
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>>63398626
Make one up you lazy cunt.
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>>63398579
>>63398602
Yeah what are you doing put those chapter tactics back you waacfag
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>>63398626

Here you go >>63398537
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>>63398387
I hope they will, lots of fags will sell their models for pennys.
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>>63398297
source?
I like that animation quality a lot
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>>63398626

Brazen Claws
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>>63398626
Yiffs
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>>63398593
>How long does warp travel usually take?
At the speed of plot.
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>>63398626
Dark angels/ Guardians of the covenant.
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>>63398554
Marines have a high ceiling for creativity. They are as interesting as you choose to make them
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>>63398657
Kabaneri
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>>63398590
Yes.
And no problem friend. Go out there and be the best Taufag you can be. Not just a fag like most of the playerbase.
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>>63398626

Deathwatch.
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>>63398626
Crimson Fists.
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>>63398651
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>>63398476
>>63398533
>moron with reading comprehencion problem
ok troll, fuck off
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>>63398593
>How long does warp travel usually take?

Yes
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>>63398687
Yep, Da UltraBoyz is da best!
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Is there an reason a marine chapter that had been isolated from the Imperium for seven thousand years or so and lost all but the most abstract knowledge of the emperor couldn’t recruit abhumans?
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>>63398667
I fuck with it
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Thinking about buying a normal dread kit and a venerable dread kit and blinging them both out. What load outs would be nicest from what's available in both boxes?
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>>63398724
u said 7 wtf liar
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>>63398716
The reason being that'd never happen
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>>63398252
*blocks your path back*
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Have there been any talks about a new starter set? I want to get into 40K but Death Guard doesn't interest me very much. I know AOS has had a second starter set released with Soul Wars so I wonder if 40K 8th edition will get the same treatment.
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>>63398716
They are probably not gene-seed compatible.
But if you can come up with a tech solution, it might work.
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>>63398743
>Boob Assault Cannons
What
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>>63398716
recruit them as in have them as chapter surfs and auxiliary troops? nothing

recruit as in make them space marines? Gene-seed and marine augmentations only work on the purest and best humanity has to offer, and doesn't work on abhumans or women.
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>>63398687
>when mom finds your backlog and decides to help out by assembling and painting them
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Help me anons, I want to make a small detachment of hearthy human guardsmen to my space marine force. Particulary vostroyan. Currently I have 2 leman russes and a chimera. What should I mail order aside from the command group to make the best of this fluffy detachment?
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>>63398727
Lascannon fist and assault cannon fist both with storm bolter
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>>63398716

Nothing has changed for marines in the last 10,000 years. They didn't Do it then and they wouldn't do it now.
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>>63398387
>>63398654
Truly ideal, I Hope GW is playing 5D chess. I wonder if New GSC will do something similar
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>>63398716
Heretics
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>>63398734
Who said its not a looted darkshroud
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>>63398757
I wish my nipples shot bullets
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>>63398727
With what's available? You'll have one with a Fist no matter what.

Iirc
Ven:
Plasma Cannon
Lascannon
Assault Cannon
+
Power Fist

Regular
Assault Cannon
Lascannon
+
Missile Launcher
Power Fist
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I did it, I primed a couple of my HQs today.
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>>63398757
Blood Angels love their rotary guns.
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>>63398321
Silver, at least for a few months
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>>63398795
nice anon, now for tomorrow set a small goal and accomplish that too! Rinse repeat ezpz.
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>>63398800
I thought they liked flamers
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>>63398357
Commanders are actually a lot bigger than your basic suit.
Center blue suit is about the right size for a commander.
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>>63398811
Yeah. But they have that fancy Baal Predator tank too.
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>>63398321
More like krylon white
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>>63398674
I've been in this hobby since the launch of 3rd. At this point marines are marines are marines. The divergent chaos chapters are a bit interesting, and the blood angels and dark angels can be neat sometimes, but by and large most marine armies look like the same old blokes over and over with a different paint job and slightly converted captains

Problem is, the grognards tend to pounce on any marine player who does anything really interesting or out of the ordinary with a custom chapter or conversion army. They just want more of the same to reinforce the justification for their own generic space marine army, and would rather see the game turn into horus heresy, with armies of basic marines led by a big marine fighting each other and nothing else. Hence why horus heresy got its own game and model ranges
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>>63398727
Ven dreads are killer with autocannons
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>>63398770
GSC are going to maul folks. Can't wait for a codex.
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>>63398381
>Make beta Sisters codex OP
>Clear decades old metal stock
>Release plastic Sisters, rake in billions
>Balance official codex release

It's a sound business decision, not some identity politics agenda, /pol/fag
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>>63398757
>doesn't know 30k BA can have dreadnoughts with pair of power fists with built in assault cannons
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>>63398825
This is a very recent thing though. Most commanders suits are the same size as crisis suits, it's just the cold stars and iridium suits that are bigger, prettymuch anytime the commander is wearing new tech. If he's wearing an old xv8, it's the same size as normal crisis suits
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>>63398850
Only as long as the Indexes remain legal
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>>63398676
danke
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>>63398849
The tools are there. It is up to you to make them interesting. If you don't want to put in the effort then fine but the huge pool of inspiration and material to draw from is still there. I think one of the mistakes you can make if your new is simply outright dismissing marines
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How do you go from this...
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>>63398894
To this
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>>63398312
My most optimistic assumption is something about rerolling the number of hits or something about a bonus to wound
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>>63398894
to this?
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>>63398906
Intense dick sucking and boy do I mean 'intense'
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>>63398724
Btw I put guardians of the covenant there because I know some people aren't fond of using named characters/first funding chapters, feel free to pick which one you want.
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>>63398891
That may be, bit what I'm saying is that marine players as a whole tend to pressure other marine players to "color within the lines" so to speak.
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>>63398914

Is it weird that I imagine Huron talking with a broad southern gentleman voice?
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>>63398235
i was thinking of adding a free boota detachment for my evil sunz orks

i was thinking 2 flash gitz squads, some grots, 2 mek gunz and a dakkajet

is this stupid
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>>63398922
I like first founding chapters but Guardians actually has a pretty cool paint scheme that i've never seen before. One of my friends played DA while growing up so it would be cool to me to have a DA force that isnt caliban green like the ones I remember so good choice
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>>63398914
Didn't he suffer like massive damage to his body and is mostly running on hate and being bionic?

Give him a new campaign GW
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>>63398953
Didn't he suffer like massive damage to his body and is mostly running on hate and being bionic?
Yep. He needs regular medical work to keep going.
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>>63398953
>Give him a new campaign GW
Badab 2: Electric Boogaloo with special guest star Bobby G.
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>>63398682
didnt he dieded?
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>>63398914
you take a melta blast to the face
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>>63398336
Get on with the times grandma. No matter how much make up you do, you are still an old hag.

>>63398323
> GW will mot be making new kits for sisters beyond converting some of their basic units to plastic

So this is what armies ignored by GW in favor of sisters feel.
Get over your jealousy. GW wouldn't be making such a huge fuss/hype and investment for 4-5 sprues.
Sisters are getting an entire new line. Just like Death Guard. Curb your jealousy a bit.
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>>63398989
You'd think he would be up to something since the warp expanded in realspace
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>>63398933
>”I do declare, this planet is a trifle to loyal to the Corpse Emperor. Barnabus, be a dear and ready the dropships. I feel obligated to enlighten these poor souls about the mistakes they are blindly making.”
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>>63398930
The communit does that with every faction. Espouse the idea of creativity, but usually against it practice (wysiwyg, base autism, subfaction rules). It is the largest for the marine players usually because marines are the largest playerbase collectively.

That said, an exquisitely executed force that meticulously follows canonis also really interesting. I'm not talking about basic scheme, but honor badges and squad markings, scripture, chapter fetishes, etc.
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>>63398859
So much this. It is like all of you guys started 40k with 8th edition. Anyone who has seen an entire edition pass by should get the business strategy of GW by now.
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>>63399013
I think he was at the 13th because Abby needed someone competent to help, and now the rift is open they are raiding and pirating all over the galaxy not just the maelstrom.
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>>63399024
Trifle too loyal* fuck me.
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>>63399013
Didnt FW have an abaddon model for a short while? It wasn't to bad either from what I recall.
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>>63398933
40k's Shelby Foote.
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>>63399047
It wasn't bad at all.
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>>63399047
Yes but it was not in scale.
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>>63399013
>most important person of a chapter
>armed with things to punch people to death
i dont get how people can not like 40k
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>>63398990
no, Kantor is still alive; Alessio Cortez, however, is missing and presumed dead
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>>63399083
>Alessio Cortez
Is he the dude that led a charge with a broken back?
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>>63399070
I think he means the 30k model.
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>>63399047
There's a 30k Abbadon I think
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>>63398381
imagine being this scared of women lmao
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How are Hell’s(dark) angels this edition? I know they aren’t gonna beat hellblaster spam,but I feel like some vroom vrooms
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>>63399070
>>63399102
Nah I was talking about this one. Didnt know it was out of scale though.
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>>63399007
A new line of the units that already exist. There will be a multipart hq, a multipart infantry box for basic infantry and elites, a repackaged rhino, two new named characters, and either seraphim or repentia in the initial release. Everything else will be drip fed.

If you delude yourself you'll only be bitter in the end like orkfags. Maintain reasonable expectations
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>>63399112
overcosted
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>>63398906
What's the lore behind this handsome lad?
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I have a rhino painted yellow for Imperial Fists. Can I just apply gold metallics to the yellow paint to make it more suitable for LoS and other gold dudes, or do I just strip the paint and start over again?
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>Marinelets will never be squa--
My LGS isn't even going to sell them anymore.
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>>63399117
Here is his 30k one just for comparison.
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>>63398533
> dubs and laufs
Tips glass
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>>63399098
Or with an arm missing, yes.
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>>63399098
not sure about the back, he's the dude that got his right arm ripped out by a warboss and then procedeed to stick a krak down said warboss' mouth
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>>63399170
yikes FW
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>>63399140
Greater Daemon of slaanesh.
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>>63399112
A bit pricey but they shit all over deathwing and everyone else's bikes. Black knights in particular
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Best sisters coming thru!
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>>63399123
>converting some of their basic units to plastic
>There will be a multipart hq, a multipart infantry box for basic infantry and elites, a repackaged rhino, two new named characters, and either seraphim or repentia in the initial release. Everything else will be drip fed.

You are contradicting yourself with these statements.
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>>63399169
Not a bad idea as they will probs get left sitting on a shelf. I can't be the only one waiting on the scale creep to catch certain things before starting a new force.
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>>63399195
Not that guy but how is sammael? Always liked that model
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>>63399207
>Viable source of Pariahs for Necrons

Yes. Please come through and down into my Tomb.
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>>63399169
to be honest, nobody runes terminators or command squads. though its interesting to see the dread on sale. is it the older kit that doesnt even have the venerable sprue upgrade?
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>>63399207
I prefer my women with less hair downstairs and more hair upstairs.
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>>63399234
That's a vanilla dread. Not a venerable dread.
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>>63399215
Lol the primaris head looks so small
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>>63399212
No. Those are all basic units tardo.
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>>63399222
I don't run him so not sure(I don't like running special characters so never bought him) Looking at the codex shoving him in the land speeder is a much better idea now. Talon masters are also really good
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>>63399215
Thousand sons are in a weird existance by looking at that pic.
They arent marinelets, they are as tall as death guard but they have marinelet body proportions. If there are TS players, can they confirm their weird look ?
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>>63398906
I'm really curious what the new sculpt will look like.
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Just double checking: This is irredeemable trash, right?
It's nearly impossible to take advantage of the listed bonuses, unless I'm forgetting something.
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>>63399264
>some basic units to plastics
>proceeds to create a huge wishlist while accusing others of wishlisting.

No, you are acting like a total fool. Unless you have something valuable to add other than empty banter i suggest you just stop typing.
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Well, I got all my work done really early, went to a new LGS and bought myself a Sacristan Forgeshrine for Admech vehicle conversion parts. First properly chill day in a while.

Time to paint some beep boops. What's Your Dudes' latest toy, anons?
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>>63398825
The "Commander" suit is the XV85 Enforcer, which is significantly bigger than an XV8 Crisis (and about the same size as an XV86 Coldstar). However, you can also run XV8 Crisis Commanders, which are the exact same model as regular Crisis Battlesuits and have a slightly different statline from XV85s.
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>>63398321
I can't wait for cheap sisters on ebay.
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>>63399318
Due to a fuck up on GW's part, i've ended up with two shipments of the kits i bought to make slaanesh cultists, so i'm making an extra squad that's going to look extra fancy
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>>63399318
>Sacristan Forgeshrine

I am suprised that kit isn't selling like hotcakes. For the price and the amount of components you get it is a very valuable kit.
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>>63399318

Got 4 ur Ghul coming from BSF for my dark eldar, I probably won't even build them and they come in 2 parts.
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How big do you guys think Slaanesh's dick is?
How veiny?
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>>63399296
I mean the Kast's guns are Heavy normally. So being able to turn them to Assault helps you get into position before going full dakka

Really depends on the CP cost
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>>63399296

Not really difficult to use the buffs, the buffs are just garbage. Fistbots suck for reasons unrelated to charge range, it's very rare a Kastelan takes enough damage that D6 repair would be a noticeable improvement but doesn't die outright, shootbots very rarely move for more than one turn and our other warlord traits are better.

Hopefully either the relic is top-notch or the Kataphron formation will contain some pretty sizeable buffs, because I adore them but they still can't do shit.
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>>63399296
Well it's not fantastic but it'll get your boops where they need to be faster
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>>63399215
What the fuck Is wrong with marines as of now? I mean sure,Primaris have nice models and all,but so do many regular marines.Do some people just disregard them because of the simple fact they do not live up to the height they wish of them?
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>>63399296
I dunno, might be fun with Graia, suicidal melee robots
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>>63399303
No retard. Unless you plan on playing the game without hqs or troops than those boxes are guaranteed. Rhinos are already plastic and will be reboxed with a new picture on the box. Named characters are a gimmie since they're cheap and gw loves throwing them into any release. One specialist unit is the only thing that might not happen but it makes sense for them tp release a three man box of seraphim or a five man of repentia to broaden the initial release. Every other special unit will be drip fed in if the initial release sells well
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>>63399195
What's so good about Ravenwing over normal Marine bikes?
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>>63399207
Been some really good SOS pant jobs around.
>Totally not mine i suck.
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>>63399373
I'm sure dudes with short marines will still be playing them but, if I were building a new SM force I would only get primaris as I don't think they will release more manlets. Xenosfag here btw
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>>63399362
as big and veiny as he/she/it wants it to be
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>>63399350

I was pleasantly surprised by the amount of stuff packed into it. Fanblades and pipes for my Admech zeppelin conversions I'm slowly gathering parts for, struts and consoles to make my Basilisks more interesting, cables, servo-arm and a couple of plasma cores I'm going to hand to my drop troops as demo charges, although I'm planning four squads so I need a couple more.
Oh yeah, and a whacking great industrial cylinder that can be half the gondolas on my airships by itself.
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>>63398761
Vostroyans typically use massed infantry. And I understand that is a null statement among the guard, but it's their infantry platoons that are most commonly seen. Not their armored platoons or artillery.

Also Vostroya is on the dark side of the rift, if that matters to your fluff at all.
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>>63399373
Primaris dont live up to MY height standards. That's why I only field Centurions, they're the only ones tall enough.
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>>63399373
>What the fuck Is wrong with marines as of now?
Shit weapons, no useful strategems, overpriced at 13 ppm when SoB do almost the exact same job for 4 less points, and become completely superior with Bloody Rose (+1S +1A) or Valorous Heart for the entire army getting 6+++, in addition to having the ability to double shoot or double move in a turn.

>Do some people just disregard them because of the simple fact they do not live up to the height they wish of them?
Marines are shit right now, MSU is the only thing keeping them viable, and more marine armies take scouts to pay for the troop tax to get their CP. Not to mention the PowerSquat and derpy size compared to True-Scale primaris is a clear distinction. And Primaris Bolt Rifles are superior to marine bolters in every way. Not to mention Primaris have +1W and +1A over normal marines.
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>>63398724
Get Azreal and put on a 40mm base. Lets you put the minion on with him and improves his aura coverage
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Who here playing the battle fleet gothic 2 beta?

The prologue did a pretty good job capturing the shitstorm during the battle for Cadia. I’m just happy they’re rolling out all the old ships from the board game
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>>63399386
You do realize you are autistically arguing that your prediction is the correct one without any basis for it ? You are trying to defend something you pulled out of your ass as if it is the word of God. Only Gw knows what they are going to do. So unless you are GW you can shut the fuck up now.
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>>63399380
Nope
>>63399370
I guess on first turn, you can Advance or move slightly more reliably before you get into the best position to drop anchor?
>>63399368
The once per game d6 Repair is the diarrhea icing on the shit cake.
>>63399364
I guess if it costs only 1CP, being able to move an extra d6 on turn 1 while still being able to shoot at a -1 is okay, but it's probably not worth 2CP, and it might not even be worth the extra CP it costs to unlock the Specialist Detachment. I dunno.
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>>63398369
>let’s make the thanatar a knight
No

Get rid of most of those special rules

M8”, WS4+, BS3+, S8, T8, W9, A2, Ld8, Sv2+

Plasma mortar is Heavy 2D6, D2, enemy units in cover must reroll successful saves

Crushing blows is fine but no 2 for 1 rule, thanatars are awful in melee and should stay that way

Explodes is fine

Invul is fine

Programmed intelligence is fucking dumb and you should feel dumb for even writing it

Cybernetic resilience should just be a flat “on a 6, it does not take a wound”
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*blocks your path*
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>>63399494
Is the lore handled any better than how they handled it in the gathering shitstorm ? Or is it just a retelling that keeps plot holes unfilled.
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>>63399494
Game is gay and will be forgotten in a month just like first one. No one cares.
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>>63398407
They’re called riding chaps and they go over the armor
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>>63399475
I’m not talking about tactical marines exclusively,which by the way,are getting a point reduction.Primaris are fun,but they aren’t going to hold a lascannon for you.
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>>63398471
German
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>>63399535
Kill him.
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>>63399515
If you think that an army will release without troops or an hq then you're a real fucking smoothbrain. The Rhino is already released for fucks sake. Don't fucking (you) me if you spend your time in this hobby sniffing glue
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>>63398667
Haha fag
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>>63399535
>resin
OH NO NO NO
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>>63399414
4++, black knights, -1 to hit with dark shroud, Sammael, Talonmaster for rerolls to wounds and ignore cover AND massive rate of fire.
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>>63399535
Man he really needs a new model
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New to the game, trying to start out. Bought this lot on eBay for $250: https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F382652327532

Did I make a mistake or was it a good deal? Looked like a good deal at the time but now I'm having doubts. Also I plan to strip the paint and repaint them.
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>>63399584
lmao here we go again gonna have 4 threads of resin cucks raging after this
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Defend this OP bullshit
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>>63399621
Whoops wrong image lol
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>>63399621
actually cant tell if this is a meme post - my buddy is having trouble making a good tau army. Are the breachers good for some reason? He seems to think the rifles are universally better than the carbines
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>>63399563
>they aren’t going to hold a lascannon for you
>implying devastators are good
Also considering primaris are getting a codex in Q1 2019, this may not be true in the future
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>>63399635
No can defend
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Do GW make, or have they ever made, models of children? I want to make a diorama of one receiving a protective hug from the barely-living ruins a Space Marine who just paid the ultimate price to save its life like that pic with the Lamenter that I'm too lazy to find.
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Daily reminder that your normal space marine is about twice the height of a human being
see this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h5J2zl4g_0
Therefore making them even taller is redundant and retarded.
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>>63399606
Pretty good deal
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>>63399659
They've made a few over the years but mostly for Fantasy.
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>>63399013
should have had the first three abaddons on 25mm bases
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>>63399651
>no penalties for advancing
>10" assault 2 s5 1ap
>5" assault 2 s6 2ap
They cost 7points and kill terminators with ease
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>>63399576
>If you think that an army will release without troops or an hq

Where the fuck did you come up with this retarded idea? Where did i say the SoB army is going to come without troops or an HQ ? That is already given. The stuff you say after that is pure wishlisting and neither you nor me can know what is going to be released or not. Is a simple logic like this too hard for you to comprehend ?
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>>63399666
>old school whirlwind missiles
N
I
C
E
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>>63398378
There is a Glimmer of hope I think.

The new campaign setting has new rules and strats for the armies that are featured in them so there is a slim chance for this to happen.

>real Codex for Sisters is most likely going to be late summer 2019 so this is a 2020 thing..
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>>63399520
>being able to move an extra d6 on turn 1 while still being able to shoot at a -1 is okay,
You don't have to Advance.
Kasts don't ignore Heavy. So ANY moving fucks them with a -1. Turning them Assault at least lets you position them.
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>>63399666
Head could be brighter to draw attention and the blank scroll is lame
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>>63399662
The average space marine height is about 7’3, I don’t know how it is in Hobbiton this time of year but that’s not double the height of any average population on the planet
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>>63399651
Breachers need a Devilfish to be good. Normal Strike Teams just need a Fireblade.
Also, yes. The rifles are superior to the carbines. They are better outside of 18” due to still being able to fire a shot, and are better within 15” when the obligatory Fireblade is nearby.
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>>63399655
>he highlighted the inside of the elbow joint
Fucking why?
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>>63399688
Ok. What was on my "this is reasonable to expect" list other than troops, hqs, and the transport that is already in plastic?
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>>63399662
>average space marine is actually 7'6", primaris referenced to be between 6" to a foot taller than them
>anon considers 8' to be double the height of a 'normal' human

something you want to tell us, anon?
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>>63399606
that was a fucking steal, easily close to a grand worth of models there. and it gives you several options for armies to play.
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>>63399718
They can also be good on foot with ethereal and in large numbers
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>>63398383
>Robo Doggo when
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>>63399704
Yeah, okay, maybe that's good enough then. 1CP to unlock, and 1CP to spend on having a +1 to shoot on your first turn isn't the worst.
If the Relic is actually good, then it might be more viable than I'm giving it credit.
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>>63399659
FW has https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-EU/Bards-Family-2017 for the Hobbit line
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>>63399662
>thinking human height matters in the grimdark future.

Some Orks. All Aeldari. Necrons? Tau suits. Etc are all taller than humans. Making Primaris taller makes them equal / taller than the hated xenos.
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>>63399662
>see this fan made movie that made terminators 11 feet fall for some reason
For fucks sake those cataphracti are the size of canon dreadnoughts
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>>63399738
I would assume you’d run them in Vior’la for the double shooting? Might sound kinda fun actually, since my FLGS has a shit ton of terrain.
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>>63399659
Here you go anon. It's one of my favorites.
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>>63399727

>>63399212
>basic infantry and elites
>and elites
Elites are not troops you know
>either seraphim or repentia
Not troops


Seriously....Do i even need to say anything else at this point?
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>>63399373
Mixing sizes bothers a lot of people even if GW has given lore justifications.
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>>63399742
Relic / any other stratagems are the real dealbreaker.
I won't say it's GOOD. But it's definitely average.

>Really depends on how crowded your tables where repositioning matters.
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>>63399759
LMFAO those ARENT dreadnoughts??? I've always liked this trailer a lot but knowing that, whoever made this has no sense of scale

btw I'm not great with Heresy era tech so I had figured that was some form of dread chassis
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>>63399578
Bit late to that.
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>>63399687
One sept ignores the Advance penalty - Viorla.
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>>63399794
Nope those are cataphractii pattern terminators, which are a bit bigger than normal terminator armor (indomitus) but mostly in the shoulders. They aren’t literally two marines sitting on top of one another in a trenchcoat
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>>63399763
Most times vior'la mainly for no penalties to advancing. If using MSU double shooting is inefficient so it's better to run them in t'au + darkstrider for overwatch bullshitting or enclaves for rerolls. You'd need to use your MLs smartly though
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>>63399818
it looks like that woman could easily lay completely comfortably inside their leg armor

lmfao
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>>63399741
Inquisitor had one.
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>>63399747
>literally npcs
>15 bong
what the actual fuck
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>>63399794
There are 100% dreadnoughts in this trailer - and the cataphractii that do show up don't seem to be THAT large, but I'm not sure when there's a good shot of them standing next to something else for scale.
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>>63399635
My biggest problem with primaris is the lack of customisation, theres only two or three types of helmet all the bodies and backpacks are identical.
Really sucks when compared to the regular tactical squad which has a bunch of different armour and wargear to diversify every squad member.
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>>63399853
Dude that woman runs past the cataphractii and her head only comes up to their waist, they’re like 11 feet tall when they should only be marginally larger than a power armor marine
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>>63399774
>(You)ing your own post to show you misquoted somebody.
Wow what a fucking idiot. Let me reprint the list so you don'y have to worry about fucking up again
An HQ, probably multipart canoness
A troops box for basic sisiters. It will come with a few pieces of special wargear and thus can be used to build the elite versions of those infantry by buying multiple boxes.
The rhino that is already in production.
Two named characters since they jam them into every release and we've already seen one possible.
And then a specialty unit box which I said is the only one that may not hapoen, but based on the previews it will probably come.

Or maybe you haven't been following the previews and you're just talking out of your ass?
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>>63399662
why the fuck did you link a video talking about a video instead of the video itself
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>>63399865
You can pop any helmet on primaris that you’d like, they look really cool with Mk7/Mk8 heads.

I’m not a huge fan of the plastic tactical kit but I love the sternguard one
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>>63399865
The helmets are interchangeable with regular marine helmets. The backpacks are too, but they're a little smaller.
You can just say they're using the manlet pack as a field repair and they never bothered to get re-issued a primaris one.
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>>63399865
It has comparable options to the tac box, and even so they are compatible with all the reast of the marine line so add whatever bits you feel are missing
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>>63399531
>Let's make the thanatar, a unit that is twice the size of a Leviathan, have 2/3rd the amount of wounds of one
Oh fuck off

>Let's make a str8 ap2 large pie plate ordinance weapon an anti heavy infantry weapon
No

>Let's make this Titanic unit be a letter to kill TWO(2) guardsmen
No, if tou think that semi-competent stomps will make this thing good in zmelee then you really are retarded

>Programmed intelligence is dumb and you should feel dumb
Programmed intelligence is what half og units with fearless should have been and you know it
>Lmao i mind control this robot because logic teehee
Fuck off
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What do you think about my DW+SoS army list?


DW Battalion Detachment

HQ (2)

Watch Captain Artemis (130pts)

Librarian (97pts) Bolt Pistol, Force Sword


Troops (3)

10x - Intercessors (210pts)
> 5x Bolt Rifle
> 5x Stalker Bolt Rifle

Veterans (266pts)

> 1x - Watch Sergeant, Storm shield, Xenophase Blade
> 2x - Terminators
> 1x - Veteran, Storm shield, Chainsword
> 3x - Veteran, Frag Cannon

Veterans (133pts)
> 1x - Watch Sergeant, Chainsword, Combi-Plasma
> 3x - Veteran, Chainsword, Stalker Pattern Boltgun
> 1x - Veteran, Missle launcher

Elites (1)

Dreadnought (162pts) DCW, Storm bolter, Twin Lascannon
SoS Vanguard Detachment


HQ

Primaris Psyker (40pts) Force Stave


Elites (3)

10x - Vigilators (190pts)

5x - Witchseekers (100pts)

5x - Witchseekers (100pts)


Dedicated Transport

Rhino
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>>63399546
Oh, how contrarian of you, anon-kun~
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>>63399918
>they are compatible with all the reast of the marine line
>pic has a bolter so small it may as well be a pistol
>and a toothpick chainsword
>shield that's meant to cover most of the body actually barely covers the torso
haha yeah they're compatible alright.
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>>63399867
That's pretty nuts.
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>>63399868


Oh my fucking god, we are running in circles here.
I wont continue this non-argument. I ahve better things to do than argue with retards on the internet.
Have your (you) and fuck yourself with it.
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>>63399941
You must have bad eyes
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>>63399687
Are you daft? You need to get them into range in the first place and their melee is nonexistent. They can get off one round of shooting then they go poof, and that's if you invest in a transport.
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>>63399953
>whoops I just realized I'm a retard let me take this opportunity to retreat
Good riddance idiot
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>>63399654
>Implying devastators are not good
You fucking wot mate?Devs are pretty fucking good with 2+ on a weapon and carriage baby reload.
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>>63399563
How do we know tacs are getting a point reduction?
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>>63399953
Have you actually presented a counter argument other than "nu-uh"?
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>>63399956
I like to keep 1 or 2 5 man units of breaches hidden behind my lines of fire warriors. Anything charges the gunline gets a nasty dose of high ap high str fire in their face when. Whatever left of the fire warriors fall back and the breachers unload. It works wonders for things like berzerkers, anything t3, tyranids, you name it.
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>>63398593
How long does it usually take to walk?
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>>63399988
Common sense,french leakers and tarot cards.
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>>63399662
That scene with the honor guard is so good
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>>63400004
Tacs going down to 12 ppm
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>>63399956
>not charging your transport into enemy
That's where you made a mistake
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>>63399992
There is nothing to argue over two wishlists masturbating against each other. Problem is That autist took it too seriously and believes the list he pulled out of his ass is the word of God.
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>>63399928
>Let's make a str8 ap2 large pie plate ordinance weapon an anti heavy infantry weapon
>No

Wasn’t the battle cannon an S8 AP-3 Large Blast Ordinance weapon? Because it fucks up heavy infantry good these days.
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>>63399969
>trying to get the last word
Pathetic
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Why do people even play this game

Everyone knows all the factions are only there for marines to beat

Enemy gets hyped by cucking non-marine imperials, then marines come to save the day, enemy jobs rinse and repeat

Literal capeshit
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>>63400041
But everything on the list I gave you has either been previewed, is already released, or is simple common sense. Are you new or something?
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>>63399373
I was converting marines to truescale before the primarines announcement, faggot
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>>63400066
nice
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>>63400059
Ironic
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>>63400066
>implying Marines aren't cucked even harder on the table
>thinking Marines are capeshit when they've been PIRMARISED and Custodes exist
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>>63400066
For the models.
Narrative aside, it's really cool to put models you worked on down on the table interacting with models your opponent worked on. A good opportunity to show off what you've done, see what others have done and socialize with other people about the hobby. This game wasnt made for waacfags.
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>>63400066
>Enemy gets hyped by cucking non-marine imperials
>Tau cuck Raven Guard and White Scars in Warzone Damocles.
>Then when Cadians shows up. Tau cucks them too.

Checkmate.
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>>63399279
IMO the rubrics look fine. They're my favorite of any space marine models. I've never had anyone say that mine look weird.
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>>63400088
>he's still trying
Lol
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>>63399928
The thanatar was literally only good at melting MEQs and absolute shit against vehicles due to flare shields, it shouldn’t have the only damage D6 plasma weapon in the game because you want it to be a castellan

>let’s make this titanic unit be a letter to kill TWO guardsmen
It’s not titanic and yes it could only kill two guardsmen in 30k too.

>programmed intelligence
Fearless doesn’t fucking exist anymore and if kastelan robots don’t have it, shit tier programming thanatars definitely shouldn’t.

Your rules are shit and you should feel bad
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>>63400110
I would like rubrics a lot more if they didnt have those dumb headdress things. What happens when they have to go through doors? How do they get around on space ships when the ceiling is too low?
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>>63400102
ETHEREALIZED
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>>63400053
>Ap3
Yep, and it was better suited to shooting infantry back then too
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>>63400066
apart from inquisition and pure genestealer cult, marines are by far the worst faction right now. marine players also have to deal with the fact that GW is hellbent on making all their models irrelevant and look awkward next to their new line.
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>>63400066
Because I enjoy playing tabletop strategy games, and after nearly 20 years playing them, 40k is the ONLY game I can consistently find people to play. Other games come and go with trends, some are great, others are forgettable.

Warmahordes was the closest to equalling it, but then the combination of their disastrous 3e launch at the same time as the success of 8th ed launch for 40k utterly killed it (along with waacfags demanding flat scenery. I refuse to play on a table with fucking flat building templates for scenery instead of actual building scenery)
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I am not going to give that retard any more (you)'s so i will write here and than leave this thread because if i spend anymore time i may lose an iq point or two.

Nothing has been previewed other than 3d model of 1 sister of battle, some heads, some bolters, 1 heavy bolter, and a crossbow bolt pistol.
Thinking these equals to all the bullshit lists he pulled out of his ass that he defends is beyond idiotic. I am ashamed retards like he share the same hobby.
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>>63399984
>38 points for a T4 1W 3+
They’re 200 points just waiting to be taken on turn 1. 1W 3+ Vanilla marine infantry are all shit.
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>>63399227
>pariahs
No such unit in your codex
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>>63399285
I'm hoping they stay true to this one.
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>>63400144
>by far the worst faction after inquisition and gsc
Necrons would like a word
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>>63399773
The Imperium does not deserve the Lamenters, Salamanders, or Blood Angels
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>>63400194
I personally prefer the other head.
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>>63399662
Something about this looks a bit too videogame-y
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Conquest mag this week is a Citadel Large Drybrush and a pot of Base Mechanics Standard Grey, at £8.

Kinda a shitty deal, unless the large drybrush is actually worth the £6 on its own?
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>>63400158
another anon here, I think last rumour engine might be plastic penitent engine heavy flamer tip, so there's that too (if sister model is boxing day special model, I'll freak)
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>>63399285
Based Tze.
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>>63400136
They're not practical, but honestly a lot of 40k is like that. What about all the chaos marines with huge spikes and horns on their armor? What about fat plague marines? Eldar and Dark Eldar both have stupidly tall helmets. Commissar have preposterous hats that ought to catch on doorways all the time. How do terminators fit through doors when they're so damn wide? They just do. I like the crests on their helmets just because there's a wide variety of them, so it helps rubricae look rather distinct from one another when you assumable them. It's a lot nicer than a whole tac squad wearing the same Mk of armor. Plus, it looks cool and adds to the whole Egyptian aesthetic.
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>>63400117
What's wierd to me is that you admitted that an army needs an hq and troops but also claim that there's no way to predict an hq in troops. Are you just retarded or on damage control? You've never explained your position beyond "only GW knows" which is true, but GW has been kind enough to preview almost everythin I listed and the rest is based on precedent so what's preventing your neurons from firing here?
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The relic Battle Cannon might be a fun excuse to run FW Vanquishers if you've got one.
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>>63400170
>No such unit in your codex
Yet.
Necrons will have mute pariah robo-waifus soon enough.
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>>63400144
You just got a bunch of OP as shit stratagems for ultramarines, fuck off faggot.
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>>63398235

So even though genestealers are moderately cool, I'm not a nidboi and don't much care for models like abhorrants and hybrids.

I was thinking though, how would a gsc army represented by gangers and such work? Several things are pretty easy. Abhorrants>ogryn, neophytes>orlocks,delaque,etc, hybrids>Goliath's, the trucks can just use the trucks.

But what would one use to represent actual genestealers in this? Or the broodlord?
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>>63400256
>How do terminators fit through doors when they're so damn wide?
They make the door big enough to take their girth
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>>63400194
I hope they mostly take cues from the FW version like they have for all the others.
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>>63400277
>every marine player plays ultramarines and primaris

meanwhile imperial fists just got a shitshow of a formation never worth taking.
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>>63400283
>Genestealers
Some kind of attack hounds or something?
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>>63400148
>40k
>strategy
Pick one.
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>>63400302
Truly, the kool-aid men of the galaxy.
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>>63400283
>what would one use to represent actual genestealers in this? Or the broodlord?
Maybe... Actual Genestealers and Broodlord models to make your army come together as a fucking cult?
>But I want to play GSC but not actually GS or C
Proxy them as Guard then, faggot.
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>>63400263
>thinking I'm that same guy
Lol I dont care about your argument.
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>>63400328
>a subfaction is bad so the whole codex is bad
lmao son ultramarines, the actual protagonists of your faction are middle high tier easily, even more now with the new stratagem. It's your fault for picking a spinoff of the real deal.
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>>63400307
I woulnd't like that but I imagine it's quite likely that's what they'll do. To me it's just an upscaled daemonette.
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Can anyone recommend a bits selling site in the US, I want to pick up some dark angels veteran heads.
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>>63400277
The primaris one is okay I guess but do you fags really think buffing the fuck out of vanguard vets will make them any less awful? A melee marines army that hits on 2s and rerolls all wounds is still a melee fucking marines army, just ask GK
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>>63400283
IG regiments exist so you can slap a lasgun on pretty much any model and use it in 40k
Just play guard, you're even using ogryns and stuff
Say they're mercenaries or something to justify the trashy ganger look
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Maybe I should post here instead... Hey, friends,

my 20-something brother is essentially a hikki with no life. I've decided to buy him a book and he really liked Space Marines as a kid. I figured I'd buy him some book on that theme. I need one with a good story, lots of action, something that'd appeal to a 13-year old. Should I just begin with the Horus Heresy or is there a really good stand-alone with lots of - what fans probably call - 40k-smut?
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>>63400379
There will be alternate heads. So perhaps you'll get your Minotaur. (S)he'll just have some number of tits.
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>>63400392
>do you really think buffing a bad unit will make it good
this has to be bait
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>>63400328
>meanwhile imperial fists just got a shitshow of a formation
I really hope they stop doing that.

Orks got Formations for all CLANS. Same with AdMech and Aeldari.

Meanwhile Marines got their formations locked behind SUBFACTIONS... for SOME REASON.
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>>63400339
I doubt it. It lools like anon remembered that special weapons have already been previewed and is just memeing now because his argument is sunk
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>>63400401
We call it Bolter Porn here.
If you want something with plot and good characters, anything by Dan Abnett. If you want bolter porn, anything by ADB.
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>>63400429
Did you miss the one for all vanilla marines?
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>>63400435
Noperoni.
Try again homieroni
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>>63400423
The buffs don't address the actual problems that make those units bad, retard. THey can be as badass as they like when they reach combat but they will never get there because lmao overcosted T4 3+, unless you buy them all shields in which case you're going to reduce the size of your army by like 33%. They're shit and will remain so in all but the fluffy narrative games these not!formations were obviously designed for.
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>>63400392
>guess but do you fags really think buffing the fuck out of vanguard vets will make them any less awful?

SUPREME COMMAND DETACHMENT VICTRIX

1-3 Jump Captains with Thunderhammers and Stormshields & 1+ Jump Lieutenant w/ Thunderhammer and Stormshield.

1 Captain gets the +1 to wound aura for VICTRIX.

>All can Wound up to T7 on 2s.

Bad?
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>>63400401
William King's Space Wolves series was quite good for pacing and action when I was younger, but you might end up making him furry so maybe not.
Ciaphas Cain series also very good, but it's IG and a commissar, space marines don't feature too much.
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>>63400480
Yeah or you could just take 3 slamguinius and get exactly the same thing all the time except with better relics
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>>63400429
Likewise for IG, they seem to apply to all the regiments.
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>>63400454
>Did you miss the one for all vanilla marines?
1.

The other factions all have multiple formations for ALL subfactions. It's silly.
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>>63400465
>what is a transport
>what is a jump pack
>what is LoS-blocking terrain
So you just want to be as OP as in the lore so you can wank your army on the table as well. Should have said it from the start.
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Boys, I did an inventory of everything all models I have not finished painting. I am such a shit, and I feel sad. Here is the list:

Half Painted
Ahriman
10 Tzaangors
3 Tzaangor Enlightened
Tzaangor Shaman

Merely Primed:
2 Chaos Spawn
Chaos Predator
Maulerfiend
Heldrake
Changecaster
The Changeling
10 Blue Horrors
Exalted Flamer
3 Flamers

Not even fucking primed
Renegade Knight

This weekend. I will get to work. My Tzaangors will at least be complete.
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>>63400454
Yeah, the one that works ONLY on primaris. I may as well through my whole army in the bin and just buy 3 primaris battleforce boxes right?
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>>63400498
>except with better relics
Ultras are getting 2 relics. Currently unknown.

>Standard of Macragge Inviolate and Soldier’s Blade
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>>63400520
mate I've built up a tyranid army over the last few months and I have a much more daunting painting list. don't feel bad, just set yourself reasonable goals and enjoy the process
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>>63400519
>these options for mobility that have existed before and already exist in other, better armies and don't help them in the gunline meta will somehow make the difference for this already subpar army
If they actually worked then they would already be working. Again GK get all of those things and they are worthless as an army.
And I don't play Marines
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>>63400520
I got a few marines unfinished, an unassembled whirlwind scorpius, unassembled defiler and some mutant rabble conversions to finish.
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>>63400242
That's how much they charge for the brush. It's just GW's standard markup on tools, so it is overpriced. But there are ox hair flashbrushes that size from other companies that will run you something near that. You can certainly find cheaper too though. Especially if you get an all synthetic one.
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>>63400546
I don't know how people who paint horde armies have the patience. I got a friend of mine into 40k, and he plays Orks. The pile of boys that he has to paint is daunting, and he's not even at a 2000 point army yet.
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>>63400554
>pretends to be an expert about an army he does not even play
>if it's not literally meta-tier it's a bad underpowered unit
You dig yourself a deeper grave with every post.
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>>63400520
Anon I have literally thousands of points of unpainted minis because I cannot stop buying models
I think I have a problem help

>>63400537
They're going to have to be fucking top tier to compete with the Standard of Sacrifice though. Soldier's Blade sounds like a weapon too, so it won't be worth anything to anon and his hammer fetish.
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>>63400429
Only fucking Marinefags can get twice the detachments of everyone else and still find a way to bitch about it
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>>63400589
>tu quoque
>implying armies have to be meta capable to be good
>implying I don't know how bad they are by playing against them

Ah I see you are merely pretending to be retarded. Good one, (you) had me going for a moment there!
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>>63400520
Do not worry fa m

I have 2 squads of guardsmen
1 commissar
1 company commander
6 heavy weapons teams
3 Leman Russ
1 squad of scions/kasrkin for killteam

1 Pedro Kantor
10 intercessors
5 hellblasters
6 aggressors
2 boxnauts
2 Lieutenants
1 Primaris Librarian
10 assault terminators
1 terminator chaplain
3 Reivers
10 tactical marines

And a fledgeling iron warriors force
20 MK3 marines
10 tartaros terminators
And a couple more aggressors I'm turning into obliterators.

I only came back to the hobby in April, and I haven't actually finished a unit yet, every one of these is in some stage of WIP, but I can't focus on anything specific.
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>>63400595
You might be hoarding too much shit anon.
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>>63400066
>Implying capeshit isn't popular
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>>63400129
>Flare shields
Eliminate flare shields from The equation and it's a perfectly fine tank Hunter, I concede the d6 point, d3 and 3 are more appropriate
>Trgetting MEQs with ap2 when you're playing AP3: The Army
>Because it couldn't kick shit in the past it shouldn't be able to now!
Literally retarded

>If kastellans don't get it then thanatars shouldn't
You're implying I think kastellans should be able to be targetted by leadership tests
Just because one is susceptible to morale, even though it shouldn't be, doesn't mean that the other should be too
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>>63400576
I have about 60 gaunts atm and I'm honetly just painting small batches once every couple weeks, between doing other models so I don't go insane
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>>63400646
I wasn't. Low-IQ people are the mayority, and they happen to like shallow things like capeshit and 40k.
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>>63400626
You are like little baby
watch this:

3 captains
5 dreadnoughts
30 tactical marines
6 terminators
a stormraven and fire raptor
2 techmarines
2 land raiders
20 csm
diaz prince
alpharius
chaos lord
like 5 immolators and an exorcist
a number of sob that is too high for me to even want to think about, probably 50+
6 leman russes
macharius
about 100 guardsmen give or take
2 baneblades
warhound titan
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Is there a more aesthetic rivalry?
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>>63400595
Same here. Since I started painting my Tyranids, the quality on my Tau, Orks and Dark angels looks so grabage that they need repainting. Not to mention the backlog.
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>>63400682
>Low-IQ people are the mayority
By definition they're not, brainlet.
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>>63400694
Between what, purple and green?
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>>63400682
>The majority likes 40k
>Why do people even play this game

anon, it's spiraling out of control
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>>63400144
>apart from inquisition and pure genestealer cult, marines are by far the worst faction right now
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>>63400682
Why are you here then?
You seem to not be a part of this "mayority"
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>>63400723
yes anon
those are marines
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>>63400710
Dark Eldar/Slaanesh
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>>63400332
You're the guy who's gonna say "there are tons of better strategy games out there" and maybe there are more tightly tuned and we'll balanced and in depth games, BUT NO ONE FUCKING PLAYS THEM. People might pick something up for a year or 2 when it's new, then they drop it. 40k is about the only game that has had a consistent and present player base with enough players to find a pickup game once or twice a week without having to matchmake on specialty forums or some shit
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>>63400513
No. Marines have way more coverage than most factions like always. The vet one is the strongest anyways.

>>63400535
SEETHING
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>>63400723
What's his endgame?
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>>63400520
You people need self control.
Backlog:
Lhamaean
10 Kabalites
10 Mandrakes
1 Raider
5 GK Terminators
Backburner or “might abandon project backlog”:
GK Grandmaster on foot
GK Nemesis Grandmaster
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>>63400610
>Assuming I'm a Marinefag.
Yikes.
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>>63400760
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>>63400771
Me?
He wants... me?
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>>63400760
That's Sevatar one of the founders of the Grey Knights, 30k marines used to be taller
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>>63400755
>The vet one is the strongest anyways.
The one locked behind ULTRAMARINES only?

Would love it if Dread Waaagh was DEATHSKULLZ only or Kult of Speed was EVIL SUNZ only.
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>>63400700
They are though. Most people are from third world countries and the average is low compared to first world countries

So most are indeed dumb like you. Only a dumbass would play 40k, paying thousands of dollars for capeshit.
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>>63400655
>perfectly fine tank hunter
>S8 ordnance blast
it was complete shit at tank hunting even with AP2, its literal only purpose in 30k is melting marines/terminators.

>Because it couldn't kick shit in the past it shouldn't be able to now!
That's the entire point of the thanatar that differentiates it from castellax. Its a big slow, lumbering giant that cant do anything to small guys running around its ankles.

>You're implying I think kastellans should be able to be targetted by leadership tests
Just because one is susceptible to morale, even though it shouldn't be, doesn't mean that the other should be too
If kastellans, who are canonically superior in their programming to thanatars/castellax, have to take morale then thanatars should too. Making some weird morale ignoring rule for a single model unit is just stupid and redundant.

Go pray to Bligh's ghost and rethink your position.
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>Space Marines price drops in CA
>Unique BT formation in Vigilus supplement

Is there any chance Templars might become playable?
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>>63400695
I prefer to leave my shittier earlier models as they are. They're not as pretty as my more recent paint jobs, but they also stand as a testament to how much I've improved. They make me feel good when I look at them.
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>>63400835
I'm planning on keeping the oldest mini I have of each faction, but otherwise keeping things relatively fresh.
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>>63400834
Watch it just be the ability to give intercessors and reivers power swords/chainswords.
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>>63400821
>iq is a standardized system
>thus if the majority of people in the world are stupid then they become the average and we are actually just varying degrees of smarter than them

>still non-ironically using terms like iq and third world
Fuck off back to whatever board you crawled here from.
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>>63400834
well they are already more playable than GK, so by getting something more already puts you ahead of the game
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>>63400760
To replace the babycarrier
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>>63398430
is that not Tom Baker?
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>>63400834
>Dedicated Melee Marine (vanilla) still worse than other faction's Dedicated Melee.

Nope. Sorry. You're better off going Mexican and doing the Pedro bash.
>Veteran Intercessors w/ a Power Fist Sergeant.
>4A each with 5 fists.
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>>63400712
To spend thousands on capeshit you have to be dumber than the dumb majority

GW literally ripping you off making OP as shit rules for new models/armies that get nerfed back a month after, yet you keep buying

That level of cuckery is prize deserving
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>>63400801
No the primaris one. The UM one is flashy but not as strong
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>>63400834
If sword brethren can actually make them good in melee it could at least push them to okay.
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>>63400821
>thousands of dollars
Lol

What hobby do you do?
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>>63400136
Abandon the sweet aesthetic for the sake of practicality in a legion of beefy wizards? You ain't shit if you can't bring some sweet aesthetics to the table
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>>63400879
Depends on what Sword Brethren does. It should be upgrades for Vanguard Vets at least. And those are the closest to playable marine melee unit.
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>>63400834
Literally +1A vanguard vets
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Why does nobody talk about this series?
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Gents, am I the only one that unironically likes the inclusion of Tzaangors in the Thousand Sons army? I get that them just being objectively better than rubricae is lame, but the lore always describes mutants and beastmen as serving various warbands, sometimes in combat. Yet we almost never see this on the tabletop. Fabius Bile, who has a fuck ton of mutants who pretty much worship him, doesn't get shit. I wish rubric squads were more viable, but it's nice to see the mutant beastmen actually represented somewhere, even if it's just in one Chaos army.
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>>63400935
it's not about primarch/chaos autism
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>>63400935
because it was okay but had a shitty ending
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>>63400909
Anime and pc gaming, both 100% free lmao
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>>63400935
There's not much reason to discuss books unless they're offensively bad
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>>63400520
35 CSM
22 Khorne Berzerkers
Kharn
Typhus
10 Chaos Terminators
6 Chaos Bikers
1 PBC
1 Mortarion
3 Foetid Bloat Drones
2 Daemon princes
3 Ravagers
2 Razorwing Jet Fighters
5 Scourges
2 Talos
1 Venom
30 Plaguebearers
6 Plague Drones
2 Heralds
6 Nurglings
28 Termagaunts
28 Hormagaunts
32 Genestealers
2 Hive Tyrants
3 Warriors
1 Zoanthrope
4 Carnifexes
1 Trygon
6 Ripper Swarms
1 old Chaos Dread

Primed
Land Raider
Defiler
2 Rhinos
2 Vindicators

Painted
2 Berzerkers
5 Raptors (That my friend painted a gift)
5 Venoms (That i bought painted)

And I want to buy more stuff
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>>63400965
Oh awesome, where can I pick up my free PC?
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>>63400935
It neither satisfies nor triggers our autism.
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>>63400965
>its another "poorfag hates 40k as an excuse" episode
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>>63400975
Or an anon has a hate boner for the author.
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>>63400982
I put one in your mom's vagina last night
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>>63400965
Have you tried not being NEET? 40k isn't that expensive if you actually have an income.
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>>63400961
I don't think anyone is actually against having birbs in 40k just the fact birb spam is the only decent way to play TS right now
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>>63400965
So no actual grownup hobbies?
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>>63400834
Its going to be a buff so yeah I think there's a chance and this army has been shit for so long that I'll take anything at this point and since the people that have stuck with this army arent bringing it to tourneys it really doesnt matter that the buff might not make them top tier, they just need a boost to make them mid tier and just take them off the bottom of the barrel.

I hope there's a buff for the Elite stuff, Vanguard Vets, Terminators, Dreadnoughts, etc. I love them all and if they get a nice bonus then that would fucking rock.
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>>63401010
Bruh, I haven't lived there in decades
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>>63400760
That is a piece of fan art by a guy on deviant art named hammk.

It's based on a nemesis dread knight conversion kit.
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>>63400965
>passive media consumption
>""""Hobby""""
You're worse than women that think listening to music is a hobby
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>>63401010
You so witty anon.
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>>63401014
>>63401030
>only NEETs and manchildren play anime/vidya
That's rich coming from grown men playing with toys.
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>>63401023
this. It's that tzaangors save the list composition that people dislike, because they work as a bandaid over the issue of rubrics sucking ass.
It's not that they're a bad addition, but if they didn't exist, GW might have been forced to do something about the actual marines.
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>>63400760
>>63401041
He has a fuck ton of cool 40k stuff on his page.

But it's not official art.
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>>63401041
People overhype this because the actual NDK looks retarded but it's honestly rather lazy. Has the EXACT same silhouette as a regular termie, only bigger.
At least the likes of the Riptide look different from their little bro models.

>>63401050
Fuck off back to /a/ and/or /v/ then. Here, I'll even throw in some (you)s while this thread is dying.
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>>63401050
Well this thread is for talking about 40k what else did you expect? The problem is you have no other non-child hobbies to go with anything. I mean I think this is bait because no real "high iq" elitist would admit to liking anime and comouter gaming anymore, it's too stereotypical
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>>63401050
Tu quoique,faggot.
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>>63401050
Being a manchild with a job will always be better than being a NEET parasyte manchild
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>>63401084
it's mostly because it looks way better than the babycarrier and no one has come up with a better design that also isn't just a big terminator
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>>63400420
Fingers crossed!
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Rate my Victrix specialty detachment (they all have thunder hammer and stormshield And jump pack) give Bobby warlord and a character the field command warlord trait easy pezsy
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>>63401084
Yeah, I mean. I don't play gray knights.

But i still think the conversion looks much better. even if it just has a front armor section.
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>>63401091
Once again the manchild who pays for capeshit toys is completely devoid of self awareness. No wonder you continuously fall for GW's bait and switch tactics

If GW customer base wasn't made of complete retards they'd have already been reported to a consumer protection insitution years ago for fraud, but you cucks physically can't live without your toys so you pay for shit like knights and primaris which will obviously be nerfed to the ground next edition

>>63401105
>in fucking plying
I'm a student lmao, you're still a manchild who probably wears adult diapers as well
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>>63401151
That army is going to melt to horde and anti infantry weapons
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>>63401151
Enjoy getting gunned down by t’au
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>An Inquisitor piloting a Commander Battlesuit

Broken Sword by Guy Haley is legit the best piece of BL fanfiction I've read in a long time.
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>>63401151
That list but Blood Angel's and replace guilliman with dante would be way better.
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>>63401077
It's always weird for me stumbling across an official GW artists page
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>>63401151
>bringing Roboute "I give rerolls to everyone" Guilliman
>in an army that already hits on 2s rr1s
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>>63401084
The alternative is sticking a dreadnought front plate to hide the baby carrier (wich imo still looks retarded) or just use pic related
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>>63401183
Not only that but the faggot that brings a knight too a 1000 game will melt this.
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>>63401168
You have to be 18+ to post in here you little cock sock.And If you aren’t arsed to get a part time job to fund your personal interests past that age you’re a lazy piece of shit.Way to sink your hole dweeb.
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>>63401168
Lol Gaming and Anime are both totally predatory at this point. You waste your free time just like the everyone else you just don't have the confidence to admit it

>Student
Hows community college going? Are you "woke" yet.
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>>63401216
*ahem* pic related
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What's the fun in playing a psyker heavy army like TSons when you're cucked out of your powers by psychic focus?

Boy I sure do love saying "I cast smite" 7 fucking times.
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>>63401242
>you can only study in school
typical burger

>fund your personal interests
Why fund what I can get for free? You're the one who wastes thousands on toys.

>>63401249
>having fun is wasting your free time
rofl no. the only thing being wasted here is the money you pay GW to consistently rip you off on a terribly balanced game of toy soldiers

>mfw he has to buy the paint too
lmao
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>>63401210

You can fit triple librarian (Ultra, SW, DA), 3 scouts, 2 dev squads and murderfang into a Batallion to support it
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>>63401289
>anime and pc gaming isn't a waste of time
El oh el
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>>63401334
Certainly less time wasted than wasting thousands on toys which you have to waste hours if not days painting in order to have 4 hour long games.

I can just play 2 hours of vidya or watch a couple of anime episodes every couple days, no comparison to your extreme degeneracy
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>>63401448
>Certainly less time wasted than wasting thousands on toys
As opposed to thousands on games and their endless tides of DLC and loot boxes?

>which you have to waste hours if not days painting in order to have 4 hour long games.

All of which is fun. Which is kind of why most people have hobbies in the first place, no?
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>Already own 3000pts of Blood Angels
>Desire to start either a Crimson Fist or a Black Templar army rises

Fuck.
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>>63401503
>As opposed to thousands on games and their endless tides of DLC and loot boxes?
Torrents are free lmao

>All of which is fun. Which is kind of why most people have hobbies in the first place, no?
it's fun to get ripped off by some company then bitch about game balance for hours
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I really want to play something with SoS on it, but I can't really make a list with anything that is not over 1500pts or 1000pts.
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How important strategams are in 1000pts or less games?
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>>63401578
>Torrents are free lmao
Live services don't give a shit about torrents.

>it's fun to get ripped off by some company then bitch about game balance for hours
Wait, are we talking about 40K or vidya here?
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>>63401612
The right stratagem at the right time can still be a tide turner, but with less command points there's also less spamming them.
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>>63401652
So should I focus on CP farming when building a list for 1000pts or get more diverse units?
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>>63401707
That will by and large depend on your army. It's easier for Guard to fill multiple detachments than it is for Custodes.
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>>63399013
as a gene-clone abomination of Horus, the needs a Primarch-sized release IMO
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taste the rainbow, my sons!
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>>63400144
>Marine win rate 48.9%
>Necrons 38.5%

Worst...
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Penitent Engines are my fetish



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