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Infinity is a 28mm scale futuristic skirmish game by Corvus Belli where Yu Jing built their own Shikami, with forward deployment, and E/M grenades

>All the rules are for free. Buying the books is only relevant for fluff:
http://www.infinitythegame.com

>Unofficial catalog of fluff, dossiers, and unit models:
https://human-sphere.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

>Rules Wiki:
http://www.infinitythewiki.com/en/Main_Page

>Official Army Builder:
https://army.infinitythegame.com/

>Model Catalog:
https://catalog.infinitythegame.com/

>Dice Calculator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/n3/

>Token Generator:
http://inf-dice.ghostlords.com/markers

>N3 Hacker Helper:
http://www.captainspud.com/n3hacking/

>Batreps:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLzrPO7KIAtwXlOUh545nq21WQaW7YxuGc
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO-Uv_G4cY91ZfMy3rWOKDQL1cl7YyYzf
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLf5JWn6xciCkYcBaTLGs6_FmFiZtCk2zm
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=gL0RY70TH3C0mb1n3DaRmyToH44sUck

>Terrain:
http://pastebin.com/Hy9SRkmJ (embed)
http://pastebin.com/PJaETXMV (embed)

>Faction Rundown:
http://www.mediafire.com/view/mqaaf5fosmti5b4/Infinity_Faction_Rundown_v.1.3.rtf

>All Consolidated Rules:
https://www.mediafire.com/?xm5aqb4sdx4g446

>Operation Icestorm Scan (beginner missions)
https://mega.nz/#!AkkG0ZZA!CE-YzCWIWVROcSnnlkZI8SMWxWoNb1LkFbWI-LamYR8

>The RPG Kickstarter
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/modiphius/corvus-bellis-infinity-roleplaying-game

>WIP Tactica
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Category:Infinity_Tactics

>RPG Character Creation
http://infinity.modiphiusapps.hostinguk.org/

>released RPG books (+ a couple rulebook scans)
https://mega.nz/#F!8pRURayK!Kj16fd7nQhEcaId8hKD4oA

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>>63330376
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>when you buy the last of a store's stock of an OOP mini
Feels surprisingly good.
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>>63375381
Yj >>>>>>>>>>> jsa
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>>63375708
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Did NCA always have its own special Machinists, or is that new for Third Offensive?
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>>63375827
You mean ASA? NCA doesn't get special Machinists. It's ASA and VIRD who get their own fancy ones.
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>>63375848
Apparently it should, they have Vet L1 and Bioimmunity, and can join Bolt links, for 16 points. It's in the Third Offensive Profiles PDF off the website.
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>>63375891
Oh hey, that's neat.
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>>63375891
Well damn. That's not in Army.

Am I going to have to scour through that PDF for anything else like this?
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>>63375910
Maybe. I haven't scoured through it for things like that, that bit just caught my eye as I was skimming.
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>>63375381
>No Climbing Plus
>Not even Super Jump

It's like they don't understand what makes Shikami great.

I do appreciate the gesture though.
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>>63376026
I do wish it had climbing plus, but FD2 is pretty nice as long as you go first or can keep it safe. It trades the mobility of the Shikami to just start closer to the enemy, and it trades -3 off its mods for better BS weapons.
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>>63376066
I'm not arguing that it's a weak unit.

I'm just saying it lacks what makes Shikami so lovable
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>>63376099
I feel you, I would have taken FD1 to get either Climbing Plus or Super Jump. However, I'm also just glad Yu Jing has a cool model that can cut TAGs in half again. It was one of our cool things and after Uprising we were just left with the Kanren, who really wasn't up for the job.
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>>63376110
I've done it a few times with a Crane. You kind of have to hack away at it a couple times before they start falling apart, but it can be done. Especially with a train.

That said, I'm really liking the Hulang's profile so far. It's a fun kit, and the weaponry, especially those EM grenades, good to have. Really looking forward for a model of this one.
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>>63375891
This is an excellent idea. I hope it makes to the other sectorials/factions soon.
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>>63376066
What I really want to do is disguise a Kanren as one of these bad boys. Or as 3 of them if I'm taking a real one. I'm not sure vanilla has gotten what it needs (still waiting on that decent HRL), but it sure as hell got something. Skirmisher department is real happy with these 2 new additions, there's a lot of potential for fuckery and that's always good to see.
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>>63376110
Shit I'd be happy if it was literally Shikami. Isn't their lore they are mercenaries?
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>>63376186
I'm already planning for a Kanren with Madtraps to come with the Hulong whenever I field it to try and keep it safe.
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>>63376210
Uprising lore was that the Shikami hardware is something that the big powerful ninja clans invented and guarded, and they all fucked off in the Uprising, so the only ninja clans willing to side with Yu Jing were the small ones using it as a route to wealth and power, who aren't able to field Shikami or Oniwaban.

On the plus side, interracial inter-clan ninja warfare. I bet the Great Japan media industry has been hard at work churning out "noble Japanese samurai teams up with slightly shady but still obviously good Japanese ninja to destroy evil traitor ninja clan" schlock.
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>>63376182
>CJC Daktari with wildcard
>BJC Clockmaker with something
>CHA Dozer making HI links more affordable
>Kazak Doktors not being fucking useless
Sounds neato

>>63376212
Either hacker could be pretty fun too. Make them fear.
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>>63375891
>MO still does not have Father doctors and Father engineers
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>>63376309
But it does. They're just identical to normal T-Docs and Machinists

What should an MO Tech-Bee be called? Repair Nun? Sister Fixit?
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Looking through 3rd offensive pdf i found that Teucer Got Climbing Plus
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>>63376383
>silently remove Bit & Kiss from SEF
>forget to put in updates you wrote down in the PDF
How long is this likely to take to get fixed?
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>>63376383
Now that MLX ignores cover I think Teucer is pretty damn good.
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>>63375381
With this new update I'm glad I picked up Tohaa because they have such incomparable links
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>>63376357
Sister technicians?
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>>63376383
>Tueton has Climbing Plus

Boom instant better unit
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Tactical bow S7 TAG when
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>>63376845
Oh man, I would love for my giant robot's main weapon to be an 8" B1 weapon given to lower a unit's cost.
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>>63376845
>Impale lvl1: if the target of an attack with a weapon with this rule wounds a target, move said target 1.5 cm back in the inverse direction of the attack

>Impale lvl2: move the target 3 cm back, if the target ends up in base contact with a wall, building or piece of scenary put an immobilised marker beside the miniature, if the target onl has 1 wound it kills the target directly (NWI ignores the effects of this level)

There you have it, now CB, hire me
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>>63377505
If it has more than a wound, then it gets imm-1!
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Does the Helot Militiaman have decoy and limuted camo or decoy or limited camo? The / confuses me.
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>>63377643
you choose one of the options, not both
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>>63377643
Or. You get to choose between them when you deploy. Odalisques have a similar thing with 360 visor vs SSL2. I think a few other units have fake choices like AD vs terrain, but it's just those two with an actual decision to make.
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>>63377683
Fuck I can't have 9 camo markers for 27 points
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http://www.thecombatcompany.com/Invincible-Army-Yu-Jing-Sectorial-Starter-Pack-Infinity-Yu-Jing

>Invincible Army Yu-Jing Sectorial Starter Pack
>$58.49
>RRP $66.00 SAVE $7.51 (11%)

>Pre-Order January
>Estimated Arrival in January

>This Corvus Belli Infinity Invincible Army Yu-Jing Sectorial Starter Pack contains six (6) miniatures including
>One (1) Zúyŏng with Missile Launcher,
>one (1) Zúyŏng with Combi Rifle,
>one (1) Zúyŏng with Boarding Shotgun,
>one (1) Liú Xīng Hacker,
>one (1) Dāoyīng Sniper
>and one (1) Haidào Combi Rifle.
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>>63374716
>>63374733
Thanks for the pics, anon.

...wait. So the Rudra has an alternate part for the red fury?
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>>63378494
>ghetto Raiden more suited to vanilla than IA is trapped in the starter
Fuck. Should've been a shotgun. Or a Mowang, that'd give it some well needed offensive teeth too.

Still, aside from that it's fairly sensible. One Zuyong HMG away from your full bread and butter core link.
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I finally sucked it up and made an IA list. Been a while since I've played, but I feel like it's got all I need? Going for pain train with the two free double moves on Tai Sheng, and with a chain of command I can make the daoying do something. No way to do a lot of classifieds though. Would be bringing it to a casual game this weekend.
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>>63378607
I believe they said there would be an army box ala JSA so it might still possible?
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>>63378881
Looks solid to me. Definitely a tough nut to crack, though possibly lacking in anti-camo.
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>>63378919
I'm more worried that I'd need to buy the box to get that sweet worseRaiden ass for vanilla. I've got all the Zuyong and Liuxing I could want in vanilla already.
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>>63378494
What a terrible selection of profiles
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>>63378991
I'm torn between "no shit" and "who cares, I'll have to convert the weapons to old types anyway".
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There's also a Kamau hacker blister for preorder, haven't checked any of the other factions yet.
http://www.thecombatcompany.com/Kamau-Amphibian-Intervention-Teams-Hacker-Infinity-PanOceania
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>>63378991
Coming off Varuna they look top notch. Only real bad profile in there is the Liuxing, and he can easily be proxied as a normal shotty. Zuyong gang is solid considering the HMG isn't an option, Haidao is maybe slightly inferior to the hacker for supporting your link but still solid, and there is not a bad Daoying profile.

Now the Daoying as a unit might not be the best choice, and Liuxing will always be inferior to Zhencha, but do not forget that we have recent evidence that it could've been so much worse.

>>63379189
Other things are standard release Dart, Ariadna support pack and Jap spec ops.
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>>63379221
>and he can easily be proxied as a normal shotty
inb4 it's got hacking hands and no weapon
I would unironically like that option
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>>63379221
>but do not forget that we have recent evidence that it could've been so much worse
So is the Varuna starter somehow fucked up profile-wise or something? I haven't been paying attention.
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>Release tons of fun, interesting new sectorials and rules
>Have to wait months to actually get the models for the units, most of the time they come with the profiles you don't want
Do they make more money off of drip feeding shit? I'd have spent shit tons of cash on new armies if they just released a huge bulk of models on army releases.
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>>63379291
>SWC7 so literally fucking unplayable without proxying (this is the big one)
>Zulu Cobras get 4 good profiles and one pointless shit one, guess which got in the box
>3 ARO guns, 2 of which vanilla would love to have in a blister and 1 of which is just bad
>Croc Man hacker is good but only adds to SWC problems
It's pretty fucked.
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>>63379291
It's literally unplayable, and I don't mean at 200, but 300 points because of 7 SWC. No one is ever going to take a Zulu Cobra Spitfire for example (easily the worst profile in almost all cases), and we didn't really want a AHD Croc Man. If those two were out it would be fine, but it's really absurd that they decided to make it into a Varuna SWC pack instead of a Varuna army pack.
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>>63378494
Jesus Christ why is this website so much more expensive than Gamenerdz or Miniature Market, who would buy from here?
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>>63378494
> no new Shang
FUCKING WHYYYYYY
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What's a good Yadu fireteam?
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>>63375381
Lowkey? That profile is crazy 5 ways from Sunday. Anyone who doesn’t recognize this hasn’t been playing for very long.
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>>63380402
Haris. Shakti, HMG NCO, Specialist Operative.
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Man... I think I actually like all the new special characters. I'd even like to see them all working together on Paradiso, they seem like they'd be a badass team.
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>>63378494
My only regret is that there is there will be no dual breaker pistol Zuyong mini. Also I guess Invincible Army is going to be completed without any unit boxes. The only one I thought might come out was a 3+1 or 2+1+Tinbot Zuyong/Haidao box, but the Zuyongs are pretty much done now. Everything else in IA besides the already released Zhanshi should be blisters. Can't wait to see how they look.
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>>63380607
fd2 is better than c&j in more situations than c&j is better than fd2 in and the weapon loadout blows shikami out of the water. i dunno how anybody thinks its close.

i think the real gamebreaker in this book though is gonna be tactical awareness
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>>63380985
At least they so far have only put TA on SWC profiles, so you can't really spam it without doing some serious damage to your list in terms of flexibility and heavy weapons.
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>>63379412
But muh SKUs...
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>>63379989
It's an Australian store with Australian prices.
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>>63378494
Also for January:
- Dart with SMG/Grenades
- Kaizoku Spec-Ops with Spitfire/Medikit
- Ariadna Support Pack
- Kamau Hacker
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>>63382559
Sauce?
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>>63379989

hurrr only one type of monies exist hurrr
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>>63382559
> Spec Ops with SWC weapon instead of generic rifle
Why tho?
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>>63380364

they still fucking suck anyway so who cares Zuyong and Haidao are more useful.
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>>63382614
It's up on preorder on Alliance slated for January street date
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>>63382559
I hope dart isn't just the gencon mini with different arms. I really don't like that twisting pose
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>>63376309

They should be the same just Religious trait.

Which would actually be nice since they could still punch buttons during Retreat!
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>>63376422

I mean do you want them to cut into their siesta time?
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>>63383042
This fucking got me
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>>63379309
Drip feeding is probably easier on them while also ensuring constant content releases. I don't mind it. As far as psychological customer manipulation I'm fine with this one. They still do big event and lore drops for people who like "tons of stuff"
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>>63376845
Only in Tohaa or Combined Army.

Maybe some weird Battle Nun or MO shit.
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>>63382559
According to thecombaycompany the Ariadna Support Pack has a Kazak Doc, Dozer with Control Device, 112, and 112 on a bike?
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>>63383317

Yeah I heard about this, seems neat. Then again it's probably going to be TAK-only because they like supporting their newest sectorials preferentially a la GW.
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OSS has made me want to start this game, particularly the Dakinis and Asura. Is this a good beginner list to build toward?
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>>63383535
That would make the Support Pack less useful for other sectorials.

The Link Kazak box already has a Paramedic model, so why not just make people use that and offer a different Dozer. I still dont get why the Doc is even a separate profile.

Also I really hope the support pack isn't a fucking repack plus the 112 biker
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>>63382559
>Kamau Amphibian Intervention Teams (Hacker)
>Amphibian
pano_pepe.jpg

Also, there's an "Elven Ranger" skin for Lunah.

>>63382637
It's already happened with the Grunt Intel.
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>>63383653

Yeah, but they don't want people to play other sectorials, they want them to hop from new sectorial to new sectorial as they come out. And then they insult people who point out that this process might have poor implications for game balance.
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>>63382559
Why the fuck the spec ops?
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>>63383853
>t. does not understand the gameplay implication of white faceplates
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>>63383918
Otherwise they'd have to do something mad like release a Brawler box or Raoul.
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>>63383980
Or, Aleph forbid, actually design a new unit like Zondnautica, Puppetactica or Arjuna or Taqeul.
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>>63383980
>>63384025
Now you're speaking nonsense.

But if it HAD to be JSA, a new fucking Neko would have been great
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>>63384025
Nah, gotta get that monthly Merc/NA2 release.
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>>63383980
At this rate, the rest of the Brawlers will all be pre-order exclusives for various books. Oh what's that? You wanted to run an NA2 faction? Guess you should have been a more loyal customer :^)
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>>63378494
Wait. Is that a starter that's actually a decent start for a sectorial? I mean, the Liu Xing is trash, but the rest seems like a good selection.
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>>63384357
It's pretty solid to me. Even the Liu Xing should be able to stand in for the BSG profile, which is much more usable than the AHD. Specialist Operative is just so much better than the AHD for the exact same price.
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To all the people crying out for a Brawlers box, can't you just use a light infantry? Fusiliers, Ghulam, Alguaciles, Securitate, Govads, Zhanshi etc, they all fit. Hell, go fucking wild and do some converting!

Surely the whole point of the NA2 factions is that you can use some creativity and make a strange and unique band of badass mercs instead of having a cookie cutter army painted in a scheme copied from Angel.
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>>63384440
Imagine, having two heads in there so you can build hacker or generic dude.
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>>63384470
I'd rather saw my legs of than proxy anything.
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>>63384357
>the Liu Xing is trash
Why?
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>>63384506
>impractical fat drop hacker
Gee, I wonder.
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Drophackers are the best way to actually employ AHDs though. You can land at the target you want to priority neutralize, and can deny enemy movements by finding a closet or roof to hide on and hack HI or REMs coming to get you. While being a specialist.

Still expensive, but not useless.
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>Tfw MO is now weaker than before
I bet Bostria is laughing at us now.
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>>63384778
You're a fucking retard if you actually believe that.
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>>63384714
See but the Tiger Soldier AHD is actually a better drop AHD trooper than the Liu Xing, since it's got 14 WIP while being cheaper. Don't forget the Tiger AHD comes with that sweet Combi+LFT, while the Liu Xing just comes with a BSG.

The AHD is the worst profile on the Liu Xing. While you might think "oh it lets my hackable drop trooper defend himself", it sort of makes him even more vulnerable to hacking since suddenly KHDs can just blow his brains out. He also has the worst gun and doesn't even come with D-Charges.

Meanwhile the basic BSG profile gets a big discount and is the best profile for just dropping the Liu Xing and causing chaos and damage until it dies. It actually has a leg up over the Tiger BSG in movement, which is important on a shotgun profile. The Specialist Operative profile is the exact same price of the AHD with a much more versatile gun, and stays competitive on classifieds thanks to D-Charges. The Spitfire is great if you're tired of your Tigers going down to crits. It can do the explode thing or just walk on from the side and wreak havoc as a BS13, 2 wound, unexpected Spitfire.

The hacker is just the odd man out, and the Liu Xing itself is a side grade to the Tiger soldier, but an interesting one in my opinion. Some people are pretty salty that the Tiger isn't in IA, and so are also over exaggerating the weaknesses of the Liu Xing on the official forums.
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>>63383711
Fucking stoked for a Lunah skin.
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>>63384822
Only retards think it's stronger now
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>>63384778
MO is fine, mechanically. Hospitaller pain-train is better than ever, Sepulchres are super-charged Montesas (shame about our brothers in Acon, though), Santiagos and Father-Knights will see actual play now and Teutons and Seraphs at least got buffs, in a way.
Thematically they're fucked, though.
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>>63384977
>Hospitaller pain-train is better than ever
...how?
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>>63384992

It's cheaper, for one.
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>>63384714
In a meta where everybody and their dog will bring a KHD or two at all times being equiped with a AHD is at best a liability.
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>>63384992
You also don't need Joan and can have an OS for filler which means you have access to HRL, MSR and spitfires both with and without visors. Yeah losing the free orders kinda sucks but with the points you save you can just buy two guys who can actually do something in those close games where you have to dig into your bench.
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>>63384992
>santiago adds a shitload of gear and a KHD
>order-sergeant drops the price and opens gear options
>Constantinos brings a MSV2
>everything else is still fantastic
it might help to think about these things.
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>>63384977
Dad knight hacker was and is a great choice if you have to play highly classified, comcenter or any mission with lots of classified objectives.
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>>63385012
Offset by loss of cheap orders. No Maigsters either anymore with Hospitallers.

>>63385087
>You also don't need Joan
And I don't want her now that I can't play around with reforming and Inspired Leadership shenanigans as soon as someone dies.

> can have an OS for filler
Has no Stealth, dies instantly and fucks your link.

CORVUS, GIVE ME BACK MY DODGING MAGISTERS WITH A HOSPITALLER HMG!
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>>63385124
This is all fine, but now you have no
-cheap lieutenant
-no Fusilier hacker
-cheap orders
-cannot reform the Crusade link once it gets broken if you lost a member
-a way to link Magisters and Hospitallers, which was by a massive margin the most powerful thing you could do in the sectorial
These things are I think far more damaging than any buffs MO got
This is I believe far worse than any buffs, making the net total weaker than MO was before in terms of gameplay. Also I don't see myself ever taking the Sepulcher for the same reason MO never saw the Montesa, it's got no support in the midfield and no KHD to protect it. It's a solid profile in vanilla, but for MO I don't have the points to take it and the support it needs to shine.
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>>63385087
Spec. Sargents still cannot link.
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Instead of Hospitaliers+Magisters, you can run any combo of Teutons/Santiagos + Magisters.
LT Hiding is harder now.
Seraph HMG is legit potentially one of the best TAGs in the game. BS15 Superjumping HMG for cheaper than a Tik is not shabby at all.
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>>63385427
Teutons/Santiagos/Magister lose the HMG and Doctor compared to Hospitaller/Magister, which are the two incredibly strong things about the old link. The Teuton/Santiago/Magister link is also worse at being healed by unlinked doctors because Spitfires mean you have to move up the board.
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>>63385427
MO got a lot of cool options for sure, but the Seraph is still better in vanilla and so is the Sepulcher. It still lacks cheap orders or ways to work around that handicap. No LT2 or Tact Awareness. Only ava1 bot. 13 point LI. God I wish OS were not so overcosted. If they could properly link half of their profiles and cost 11 points (because that's how much they are worth) MO with no Magi+Hosp would be far more interesting. Now a BS 16-17 HMG isn't even very special, Varuna, Acon, Morats and IA can all have that option so it's not like it was a balance issue.
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>>63385661
> Order Sergeants should be 11 points
Anon that's how much Zhanshi cost.
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>>63385363
That text is gone in both army and the profiles PDF
>>63385214
>>63385308
>I only know how to play one way
HAHAHA
Get wrekd fag. I hope you quit the faction.
>>63385427
I always played with super obvious LTs. If they want to hack there way through a whole knight link to get him I am ok with that.
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>>63385747
>That text is gone in both army and the profiles PDF
It was a bug that got fixed.
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>>63385308
This.
OSS it is for me!
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>>63385686
And Zanshi should cost 10. There's no reason for them to be 11, except CB intentionally punnishing YJ (which afaik they don't deserve).
>>63385747
They fixed the unintentional buff for the OS.
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>>63385828
I didn't play much MO before because it was boring compared to Acon. I was hoping they would leave the functional stuff and add more variety, but I don't see myself taking MO for any reason aside it looking really really cool. That said MO changes improved Vanilla variety and with Varuna it's no longer just Neoterra with Croc Men and no Fusi link.
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>>63375891
I'm really loving this "division-exclusive loadout" thing. I'd like to see them expand on the idea with other units as part of PanO's schtick, like what they did for Varuna ORCs.
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>>63375891
>and can join Bolt links
Not like that really helps.
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>>63384859
>Some people are pretty salty that the Tiger isn't in IA, and so are also over exaggerating the weaknesses of the Liu Xing on the official forums.
Dear lord I see so much of this. It's like people don't understand that they serve completely different roles.

The Tiger Soldier is there to be dropped near priority targets so it can either shoot them up or hack them apart. The Liu Xing is there to be dropped on a bunch of cheerleaders, forcing them to either dodge or take a blast to the face instantly, which is likely to kill your average LI filler. The Tiger Soldier is a precision problem solver, the Liu Xing is a bomb for removing weak order-providing units.
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The Autocannon Kurgat is linkable now, right? I don't see anything on the wiki or Army saying the Support/Operative Group division matters anymore.
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>>63386463
Yeah, that's a confirmed change. It's probably why people thought Spec Sergeants might link, but the omission turned out to just be a mistake. The Kurgat haris hardly breaks anything.
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>>63379309
It means you're invested in the game for the long haul rather than spending $300 one month and then promptly fucking off. It also ensures more people have something to look forward to every month rather than people playing a single faction or sectorial.
Imagine if everyone was in the same place like Tohaa: nothing for a year for your faction or sectorial because CB is pumping Varuna, OSS, IA or Tunguska only. No Morat resculpt, no Bandit repack, nothing for MO or Ariadna for two years or more.
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>>63386761
Imagine being Acon or Mero.
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>PDF chart says Tootins and Magis get core fireteams
>but it doesn't show up in their profiles
What the fuck is this bullshit?
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>>63386490
>The Kurgat haris hardly breaks anything.
Does it actually make the Autocannon profile worth using?
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I got an infinity tourney coming up, and I kind of want to bring a tag to the table, but have never played with one before. I've been told you have to build lists around the TAG but I'm not positive what that means. Anyone got some notes?

tag list:

KwBgLAPgzCIQKgVwHYHNEGcDWBDABAMoBeOANjgLY7IAmATjhAGwCkAjCAJxgtghusAhJ3ZcA7LxBRgLQQCZRnECyidObWRo4AOEarEjBWkLpWdtMo6NOrtCqzr2cxQuazYeefMT3lR2Hhp8TIbaiqx8bpoSHiAywcoAAslAA===

and if you feel like it, the second list I plan on bringing to the tourney.

KwBgjAPgzCIQcgewLYEMAmACAaqgdgJYA2RqEwAnAKRi0AcVALCHVFQITABsVFwjVKPx7sBUPjUZQB7MD2YB2SRRAcYTAExgawKBrVtGGgWF1LZhkCcZ1tow9MEUF+2U/1hmM7eI9eqAAJcqrRg1Mx01LICzMCSrGoxGnGm4oEBQA===
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>>63387267
Nah, still bs 11 with no visual modifiers. Sure it’s a 3 specialist fireteam, but meh
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>>63387305
Post a pic of the list directly, can't be arsed to copy that over.
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>>63387488
fair nuff, tag list coming next
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>>63387305
Generally ask yourself
>Do I have a pitstop where the TAG can go to get fixed up?
>Do I have enough orders?
>Do I have a backup piece?
>Do I have mines and stuff?
>Do I have the correct hackers with proper support?
>Do I have enough guards?
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>>63387584
Interesting, the main fire team with the grenzer ML was meant to be the sort of 'rear guard' so if I keep the clock maker near by it should fill that role. I don't have a killer hacker, but imo 3 hackers is pretty good especially with sucker punch. I could position the spektr near where I want the tag to be to surprise any sneaky hackers but cybermask might still fuck him up. Maybe switching out the spektr for a killer hacker heckler could work.
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>>63387566
I think you should try and get a KHD in there to deal with any clowns trying to back your TAG.
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Alright did a bit of a mix up on the list using vanilla over the sectorial. Swapping in an intruder for that back line defense since she can snipe sneaky monofil choppers.
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>>63386910
I am both Acon and Mero. Im not worried.
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>>63378494
They better have one of the Mowang profiles in a blister on the heels of this release. The fact that there is no Zhencha, Hulang, or a redone Shang Ji is sad.

In all seriousness, I might either change the MSR from the Daoying to the Haidao if the Daoying is male or the gun is the right scale. If not, swap with the Zuyong Boarding Shotgun to get the Haidao KHD.

Just need a Yu Jing Tinbot now.
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>>63386461
The big weakness I haven't seen much about is that it's 7 points more expensive in a role where cost matters a lot, with no added reliability to compensate and a gimmick that banks on using AD3 all the time. Explode could have been something good to send an almost worthwhile profile over the edge, but it can't properly drag an overcosted mess out of the dirt. I don't think Liuxing is truly awful in a vacuum (or in IA for that matter), it's easily better than Crusader for example, but it cannot pretend to be on the same level as one of the best drop troops in the game. It was built for sectorial first and vanilla not at all, that's why it's so barebones. It's meant to support your expensive HI link and expensive Zhencha support so it can't cost too much, even if extra cost would give room for huge improvements that would see it show up in vanilla.
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>>63380931
i really wanted a duel pistols zhuyong, or at least have one of them posed in a way that's an easy swap with hmg guys arms.
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>>63383313
plasma tacbow at pH 17
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>>63388710
I'm surprised there's no Mowang profile with a tinbot. Especially the multi rifle. When you got some HI doorkicker with no stealth it's a thing you want, without having to drag along a bad Shang Ji.
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>>63388854
It's probably like because the Mowang is a little nuts with the Daoying. It can drag the Pangguling around for cheap to have a defensive repeater bubble, at least.

>>63388729
I see a lot of value in the second wound, but there's no doubt the Tiger is probably better than it.
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>>63388854
I mean there is always Fairy Dust... with BTS6 baseline it is not terrible. I get where you are coming from. Surprised there isn't an option for even Tinbot A. BTS 9 with -6WIP to your opponent is solid (from Fairy Dust and TinbotA).

Oh well.

With Pang being able to Duo, and the Haidao, I am not that worried. Been pondering the use of the EVO Hacker in both IA and Vanilla. Can we coordinated order drop a Liu Xing and a Tiger?
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>>63389144
Yeah, as long as they're all doing the same level of AD. Also, despite you using a regular order from the pool and coordinating them for the drop, the regular orders they normally generate and are used to drop themselves are still lost once deployed.
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>>63388710
>redone Shang Ji
for what purpose
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>>63389203
Yeah, that is a bit of a drag. I can not think of a reason to tactically do so. Especially since the Tiger has to be placed away from Liu Xing or you lost the Explode benefit.

Guess you could drop both, lose their orders (that's why we have Lt L2, Tac Awareness, and NCOs), and the Tiger utilizing EVO deploys near the enemy troopers in a bit of cover with LoS and the Liu Xing drops and pops them.

Doesn't seem worth the Order and Command Token.

I am pretty sure the same scenario can be done if the Tiger dropped out of LoS and waited for the Liu Xing to drop. I dunno. Seems like a lot of work with no real payoff.

>>63389331
Because ever since I started playing in early N2 I loved the Shang Ji. I would like to see it resculpted with the Spitfire preferably.Though I know that unit will get phased out for something else. Probably won't be like the Haramaki/Tanko swapout.
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>>63389430
Basically you would only want to do it because it only gives 1 ARO opportunity against the drop of every AD trooper in the coordinated order. However, really AD troopers shouldn't be getting shot while landing in the first place, so yeah it's pretty whatever.
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>>63389430
>I know that unit will get phased out for something else.
Where are you getting that from?
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>>63389430
I would like to see it reworked. If it's going to be an expensive premium Haidao, make it a real one. Give it cool combat tools and universal number 2 and shit.
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>>63389430
>Because ever since I started playing in early N2 I loved the Shang Ji.
Me too, but I can't see them not fucking up both the armor and the weapon. As much as I'm sorry to say it they should just remove the unit entirely, sculpt Tai Sheng in this armor, and say that the suits were hell to maintain in any kind of massed use so they canned the project and just kept some for special ops.
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>>63384496
Thats terrible autistic.
Id field 1 zanshi, 1 aguacil, 1 fusilier, and 1 ghulam.
The brawler lore is that they are merc/thug washouts from other armies aren't they? Id unify basic bitches from every other army under 1 color sxheme.

Or are you parapeligic and wanted rid of those useless things anyway?
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>>63384470
I'm all for using the creativity that comes with NA2 armies, but part of the reason I want a brawler box, and a lot of the people I've talked to want one, is simply cause the Brawlers look badass.
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>>63389445
I think I would rather have the Tiger walk on, let the Liu Xing drop. Then coordinate both the following turn. Seems like there's some better mileage out of that.

With the arrival of IA, I think Vanilla got some new life breathed into it.

Been really wanting to try this out. Also having thoughts on the Mowang... glue rocket or rocket launcher? The former profile lets me upgrade the Daoying into a Hacker that's about it.

Personally partial to having two NCOs for maximum order efficiency, but the thought of having 66% of my vanilla force past my deployment makes me giddy. Plus, I love the Dao Fei.
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>>63389331
For the core link, obv. Four-man box when?
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>>63389571
Just look at the regular Invincibles, the Haramaki, and some other notable HIs not in this faction (Al Fasids). They either got rebooted (or in the case of the Invincibles) replaced by a new unit.

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. CB truly does hate the loyal Shang Ji.

>>63389828
They will come up with something stupid like that to make them not available. Which is a shame since it was a template for the newer armours until the Zuyong pattern came out.

They just need to Zuyong the Shang Ji and make a cheaper replacement that still has some of the robustness. In game terms, just give them a knife. It just makes sense. They need an MR option, maybe upgrade them to have either Heavy or Breaker Pistol. Maybe a Heavy Flamer option with Combi Rifle and give them Breaker Combis with LFT.

Either way they just need to be cut down in points. Even a Marksman Rifle NCO profile would be neat with Stun Grenades and Heavy Pistol.
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>>63390062
So you're just pulling shit out of your ass for scaremongering purposes.
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>>63390238
No, I am being realistic. This shit has been happening at a greater frequency as of late. Get your head out of your ass.
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>>63378494
>one (1) Dāoyīng Sniper
WHYYYYY?????????????!!??!?!??!?!?!?!??!?


The Useless Sniper in a Starter curse.All they needed to fucking do was put the OP Lt L2 Boarding Shotgun profile in and sell a gorrilion copies.

>Liú Xīng Hacker
Couldn't they just leave the Tiger Soldier to be the starter available hacker?

The rest are workable, I guess. I sincerely hope that that the Combi Rifle or BSG Zuyong is a female. I'm not one of those who likes the rows of identical male terracotta soldiers.
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>>63389988
Flammenspeer is a little better, but it's not so much better that it's worth giving up anything. RF is the best primary gun and best profile overall.
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>>63384470
All that is true, yes. But consider the following: The Brawler model we were given is Fresh as f**k.
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>>63390480
>multi-sniper minelayer LT2 in an army with chain of command out the ass
>BSG with 4-2 and no forward deployment

anon...
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>>63390062
They'll probably either spend years in purgatory before eventually dying or get massively reworked while technically remaining the same unit (similar to Al Fasid but without the translation change).

>>63390646
BSG is the cheaper NCO fuel, but all the Daoying are good imo. I've got beef with that sniper being in the starter, but only because it's a profile that might as well be built for vanilla.
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>>63390646
Season as you'd like, I don't want to spend 1.5 SWC on a Burst 1/2 non explosive model. In a sectorial with heavy hitters like the Hac Tao, Yan Huo, and Rui Shi nonetheless.
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>>63390704
P.S. No MSV is the big deal with the sniper for me.
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>>63390340
>I am being realistic.
>all dramatic unit changes have coincided with an edition change or release of a new sectorial containing them
>Shang Ji survived the release of IA almost completely unchanged
The only thing you're being is retarded.
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What are some good proxies for Helot Militiamen?
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How long until I can have a full elf team in aristeia???
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>>63390800
Libertos :^)
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>>63390849
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>>63390800
Kuang Shi
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>>63390878
I'm surprised PanO/other factions haven't taken a page out of Yu Jing's book and just started using captured soldiers as suicide bombers/meat shields.

Obviously it isn't very morally right but each faction seems to disregard that with the use of flamethrowers, chain colts, shock ammo and the like.
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>>63391034
Even YJ doesn't do it with PoWs (at least not habitually, I'm sure isolated cases could be arranged if you piss off the wrong guy with the right connections). It's a type of death sentence for criminals.

And Varuna is rather understaffed atm, we could end up with our very own fucked up fish Kuang Shi at a later date. PanO is apparently already willing to give Helot Militia life-ruining surgery to make them better fighters, so it wouldn't exactly be out of character.
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>>63391034
For anyone who has the 3rd Offensive book, why do the Helots have Neurocenetics? Libertos don't have it, so I'm guessing it must be some PanO fuckery rather than ayy lmao traits.
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>>63391622
Life ruining surgeries? My book hasn't arrived yet. Looks like it'll be here after Christmas :(.
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>>63392012
>My book hasn't arrived yet
It's the description of Neurocinetics they're using, most likely.
>Neurocinetics are illegal devices in most parts of the Human Sphere. It is a technology of military origin with instinctive activation that affects the combat reflexes of the user. His reactions occur in time units shorter than those of a standard human. In the long term, the consequences for the nervous system are severe. The individuals with Neurocinetics can be recognized by their obsessively slow and cautious movements, which indicate those who have to control their reactions constantly.
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>>63391804
Fish men are agitated by the low pressure of being on the surface hence why libertos have frenzy. PanO gives the helot workers and militia pressure suits to keep them more docile.
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>>63392304
>to keep them more docile.
That's not really what Neurocinetics is, though.
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>>63387207
Inconsistency. They claim that Fireteam: Core is not a skill and should not be in Army, but at the same time it has always been in Army.
Army should really have a fireteams legality checked with mixed links everywhere.
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>>63392304
That explains the lack of frenzy, but not the neurocinetics. If anything docile is bad for neuro, since full burst ARO relies on being twitchy as fuck.
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>>63392793
>Army should really have a fireteams legality checked with mixed links everywhere.
I think they way you'd have to do that is to print a list of legitimate fireteams, since otherwise you have to get the user to indicate which models they want to be in a fireteam to check it.
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>>63383636
I don't play OSS or Aleph, but at a glance it looks okay.
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CB set the standards too high in their sculpts. I want more civilian models for custom scenarios but I can't find any that look half as good as CB's stuff.
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>>63383636
A few points of concern
Everything here is strictly a attack oriented piece. There's nothing in the list to slow down your opponent or defend heavily against a decent alpha strike.

OSS has fantastic tools to take the midboard, but you're only using one mark 2, which is fantastic. But a naga minelayer is really where it's at. Also I think assault hackers are overcosted, I know the mark 2 is there to claim objectives but killer hackers kill him and you want repeaters so your asura can use hacking plus anyway.

But I don't value the asura hacker very highly either, it's a heavy infantry attack piece without stealth, it can be crippled by killer hackers if one gets near one of your repeaters or is a camo marker nearby. I have killed an asura with a killer hacker bandit before in my reactive turn. I also feel like it puts the MSV 3 and the hacking device plus to poor use, given that you don't have any way to create a hacking network easily with this list.

I would
>keep the dakini team, but put in a multi sniper
>change over the Asura for a spitfire lieutenant
>Put in a Danavas hacker plus
>Put in a Zayin Rebot Such sexy models
>Take out the Yadu FO
>Take out the Shakti
>Replace the Proxy mk2 with a Naga killer hacker
>Replace the Proxy mk1 with a sophotech

I'm not sure about points but I think that having a few reactive models and changing your active models to be a bit more effective would be better.
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>>63388797
Avatar profile when?

They can release $200 limited run minis for it and everything
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>>63389836
No response

Parapaligia confirmed
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>>63390839
Long. Seems like they are more interested in steel donuts than giving the wargame presence
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>>63393166
>Seems like they are more interested in steel donuts than giving the wargame presence
What? Aristeia's not sucking up release slots from the wargame, if that's what you're trying to say, it gets one of its own a month.
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>>63393107
There is no such thing as an overcosted Posthuman. You pay more to get less with a Naga, it's far less survivable and killy. KHDs can get killed by KHDs as well, and it's a lot harder to pin down a TO shotgun who can hang out in hidden deployment or even die without costing you an order. Nagas can supplement, the minelayer in particular is top notch, but they do not replace the Mk2.

I'll agree with the rest though. I'd keep the Mk1, but engi profile instead. There's only one unit that even can be doctored, and a bunch of needy robots.
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>>63393187

The context is wargame units showing up in Aristea
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>>63393518
Are you that one moron who keeps bitching about muh Ayyar in Aristeia? It's not going to happen, Aristeia's a civilian competition.
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>>63393583
Are you that one moron who jumps into conversations without hearing the context?
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>>63393583
>It's unrealistic for an assassin to go deep cover in a civilian competition
>It's realistic for an entire nation to plan a surprise succession under the close scrutiny of an oppressive, stable government

Then again I suppose you also think it's believable that the only people in Asia who would have a problem with Chinese rule would be Japan
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>>63393159
Paraplegia doesn't affect your ability to type, anon.
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>>63393518
No it isn't, the context is more elves in Aristeia. That's not a wargame unit.
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>>63393518
What units would show up? We already have the 4 easy ones. For individual characters the only halfway reasonable addition would be Miranda Ashcroft, and she's worst girl. Just saying "hey check out this guy, he used to be a Bolt/Moran/Wu Ming/etc and for Aristeia he decided to roleplay as that unit" would be fucking boring. Are you saying you want more characters like Lunah and Dart created specifically for crossover purposes? I guess that'd be okay, but it takes away some design freedom from both games.

>>63393760
>It's unrealistic for an assassin to go deep cover in a civilian competition dressed up as the exact flavour of assassin that he is
Unless he's brain damaged, yes. Sad thing about the Hassassin Aristo is that nobody would know they're a Hassassin.

>B-BUT UPRISING WAS WORSE
I'd rather you didn't turn that fuckfest into some lazy defence for your own dumb ideas. Someone else smearing shit all over the carpet isn't an excuse for pissing on it.
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>>63384496
>I have no imagination and have to be spoon fed everything by the company

>>63385686
Zhanshi need fixing. Either a price drop or give them something extra for the 11pts like stealth and courage.

>>63387912
Me too, having the best aesthetic is enough

This leak of the 112 getting a motorbike sounds like the MRRF rework will happen eventually too

>>63389974
>>63390545
That's a legit reason, better than >>63384496 and his autistic screeching
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>>63394157
>#Metoo
Where were you when CB violated then discarded your sectorial?
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Please respectfully email Corvus Belli and tell them that Mormaers need buffed and Caledonia needs more Lt. options.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi7xBe5-M8k
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>>63394157
I think Zhanshi with chain-colt would be alright. And Order Sergeants with veteran.

The Russians already took one biker that would've been perfect for FRRM so I wouldn't put it past them to steal another.
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>>63394359
Veteran on OS wound make them pretty great with the whole no backline lieutenant/decent CoC (50+ points is maybe great in vanilla with Joan, but doesn't work for MO) debacle.
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>>63394157
>Zhanshi need fixing. Either a price drop or give them something extra for the 11pts like stealth and courage.

What the fuck are they going to do with stealth? Come on. They've got as much use for stealth as they do CC14
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How long until I can have a full dwarf team in aristeia???
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>>63394864
Wrong game, you want Shadespire for that.
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>>63386761
>It means you're invested in the game for the long haul rather than spending $300 one month and then promptly fucking off.
That was the case before sectorials. After sectorials people kinda do just dump 300$ and fuck off.

Not everyone, of course. But I would hazard a guess that most people don't have extensive, multi-faction collections and once they've got their main force only buy very occasionally.
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>>63394904
But shadespire rules suck.
Maybe if I cut Valkyrie legs and arms by half I can pretend I have a dwarf and still have 51% of a CB miniature.
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>>63394929
I mean you could probably do that with half of the cast and end up with some variety of moderately dwarflike creatures. I don't think it's something I'd condone, but you could do it.
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>>63394864
I nie realize that this is a reference to there being at least two elves confirmed for Aristeia. Oberon and new Lunah skin.
They have also teased medieval Kosmo and Orc 8-Ball.
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>>63395021
Was Lunah skin confirmed to be an elf?
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>>63395021
>They have also teased medieval Kosmo and Orc 8-Ball.
Sauce?

>>63395092
It's from thecombatcompany, same source as the IA starter contents.
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seems pretty likely with all this aristeia stuff that the Black N is gonna be a fantasy skirmish wargame. fantasy with infinity rules and sculpts is hype as fuck
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>>63395359
It was either Facebook or Twitter, they had a poll for the next skin.
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>>63395439
I would prefer fantasy rules to be different from Infinity ones. On Infinity close combat feels a bit bland, with no difference between weapon types and it being viable for very few models. It's not as varied as ranged combat. In a fantasy game I would hope for something like polearms adding reach or shields being more than just +3 ARM.
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>>63395504
>having a mechanical difference between rapier, sabre and longsword
muh dick
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>>63395359
Got it, thank you
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>>63395439
Black N*****?
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>>63395439
Didn't they tease "a new way to play Infinity"?
Could be an alternate ruleset or could be... Vidya?
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>>63395439
It's not. The "N" symbol is specifically Infinity related. Also I recall them talking about how they would need to either stop making infinity stuff for a while or hire a new development team.

>>63395504
You could just switch the Burst values for ranged (bows and shit) and CCWs, so you get a much higher Burst in CC than in ranged. Also the MA Chart ought to be improved for it as well.
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>>63396418
i have on pretty good authority its something standalone
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Anyone got a picture of the 2019 roadmap?
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>>63396686
Best bet is probably return of the campaign system.
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>>63396686
Is it 15mm Infinity? Please let it be 15mm Infinity.
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>>63395439
N is confirmed to be Infinity related. That said, the number of fantasy-inspired alternate sculpts CB are doing for Aristeia! does show a real want to go into that genre. I wouldn't be surprised of the fantasy game was incoming.

>>63395504
>I would prefer fantasy rules to be different from Infinity ones.
Agreed.
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>>63396914
that would be selling themselves short, mainly in the quality of their sculpts

25mm CB fantasy minis in a skirmish scale game would be fucking amazing
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>>63397090
they should kickstart the first run or something if they're afraid people are not gonna buy it.

After all their management of ininity is questionable to say the least, but we're still here playin, so...
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>>63397144
Eh, 90% of Kickstarted minigames tend to drop from the face of Earth after the rewards are sent/it's a clusterfuck.
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>>63396686
Standalone or not. It's the Infinity "N" - and I mean Infinity as in the Infinity universe, so a standalone REM Racing, fleet game, dungeon crawler, 15mm wargame, etc etc would still be relevant.

So to me a fantasy game would not make sense unless they're naming it something with the same "N". Honestly, if Aristeia is a hint of what their fantasy game may look like, I've already lost interest.

>>63397144
>Kickstarter
Absolutely fucking not. Also if you think their management of Infinity is questionable what makes you think they would manage a kickstarter any better?

>>63397281
Probably because 90-100% of the games' contents are released upon the kickstarter so people have nothing to look forward to.
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Bit late to the party but are F.R.R. Merovingenne completely finished now? They have some cracking models. What will replace them?
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>>63397880
All their minis besides the new Chassuer are going out of production. They're playable but basically being put on ice. I wouldn't expect anything new from them for at least 2 years.
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>>63390800
I’ll be using the 4 cube jaegers I’ve accumulated over the last season
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>>63398189
Bro why do you have 4 Cube Jaegers? Also, I was thinking of getting the Cube Jaeger SMG to proxy as the Libertos. Before I do, does anyone actually use the CUbe Jaeger and is there any good reason to? He just seems kind of shitty for .5 SWC unless your faction doesn't have access to AD Lvl 3. I can't see myself ever taking him in Yu Jing, i'd rather cash the points in for a Tiger Soldier Paramedic.
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>>63398397
I could see myself taking him in PanO, though Echo Bravo somewhat diminished his value. He's still a really cheap way to bully heavy targets though.
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>>63398694
Yeah, I admit that despite the dumb sword, they're pretty cheap. I guess I could see myself using them once in a while if I'm at 5.5 SWC anyways. Guess it's back to my original plan of buying some Tohaa mini to proxy as the Libertos. I don't want to proxy with a mini that could actually be used in my army for something else.
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Tunguska question for you guys, can an interventor join a fireteam of 3 securitate and 1 grenzer? It says they can join Grenzer fire teams, but also that Grenzer count as securitate for fire team composition.
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>>63400035
Nah, at that point the Grenzers are joining a Securitate core. The Interventor can only join a pure Grenzer link, not a hybrid where Grenzers are counting as Securitates.
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>>63400078
I kind of figured, but needed to be sure. Thanks.
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>>63394248
>Where were you when CB violated then discarded your sectorial?

I was busy eating a brie and onion baguette. It was delicious thanks for asking.

>>63394359
Both good suggestions, as >>63394572 said stealth would be useless but a template weapon can get work done.

If TAK steal the 112 from MRRF I'm gonna hide a wheel of camembert in Gutiers office and hope the smell of it decomposing kills him

>>63397880
The space French, a pretty unusual concept in any media, have been replaced by the space Russians, who are generic as fuck.
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What are good cyberpunk colors/schemes for the armor?
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>>63400547
Part of me thinks giving Zhanshi all template weapons is a bit much because templates are so damn good in the game, but on the other hand Yu Jing DZs are usually filled with Kuang Shi and Shaolins anyways.
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>>63400623
Vaporwave.
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>>63398397
I win a lot of events and in turn get a lot of those stupid prize packs.
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>>63400664
Honestly they should just get a drop to 10pts, it's the simplest fix
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>>63401043
Second.
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>>63393803
But being called out does
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>>63393925
> dressed up as the exact flavour of assassin that he is
>Everyone in setting knows what an Ayyar or Fiday dresses like

I had no idea Hassassins were so public. When is CB going to release the story where they recognize a Marut on sight?
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>>63401486
I'm sure there would be a Nomad player who would then be like B u T N o W M y A l g u A c I L e S A R e t O O E x P e N s I V e
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>>63393925
>Someone else smearing shit all over the carpet isn't an excuse for pissing on it.

It literally is. If they want their setting to be a shit carpet, why get upset when someone pisses in the shit?
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>>63393825

Once again, context. Given the context we are talking about Infinity, the assumption can be made that elves = Tohaa. Alas, the OP didn't clarify so we will never know the truth.
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>>63393925
>Sad thing about the Hassassin Aristo is that nobody would know they're a Hassassin.
>there can't be cards where they secretly use Hassassin gear or refer to Hassassin training in name

Hell, that's not even getting into just their personal lore saying "Yah, she's Hassassin"
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>>63402266
I've played Nomads, they get everything so they can suck it up on this one.
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>>63400547
>If TAK steal the 112 from MRRF I'm gonna hide a wheel of camembert in Gutiers office and hope the smell of it decomposing kills him
Thanks for reminding me, I gotta get some dried cow dung and mail it to CB as fair exchange for the bullshit that was Uprising.
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>>63402287
>the assumption can be made that elves = Tohaa.
No, it can't, since Aristeia ACTUALLY HAS ELVES. Oberon is an elf, and Lunah's upcoming skin is an elf.
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>>63402434

Does the Infinity setting actually have elves?
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>>63402449
Authentic elves? Nah, this isn't Shadowrun. However, getting your ears bio-modified and living forever is just a matter of money. One of the old Morlock girls has the ears, I suspect she isn't living long though.
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>>63402434
Oberon is a geist, a pseudo artificial intelligence with a great physical presence and programmed to defend his team from the malicious software of hackers!
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>>63402434
>>63402449
Oberon is an AI in a custom elf body. We're yet to see Lunah elf.
Elf ears seem to be a common biomod in Bakunin. One old Moderator had them as well as a Morlock and a guy here.
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>>63402675
I'm more concerned about that freakish eyeless zombie man at the back
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>>63402722
That's Frank, good old Frank, he used to drive in high-speed competitions until he decided that his eyes were a hindrance and took them out to wire himself with his bike sensor system. He got booted for cheating, now he's a hacker.
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>>63402971
Speaking of which, elf ears seem pretty fucking basic for Bakunin. For people who want to pay lip service to the idea of weird bodymods, but aren't willing to go for the real good shit like Frank.
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>>63402675
>Elf ears seem to be a common biomod in Bakunin.
They're a real easy way to make yourself look exotic, sort of the next step up from tattoos. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a specific Bakunin slang term for "non-Nomad who came to Vaudeville, got blackout drunk, and woke up an elf".
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>>63403155
Quatronic Heat describes a group of Nomad remote racers. They're full on lizard people. At least one of them has a functioning tail.
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>>63402481
>>63402675

So in context of the OP, the comment "elves" could be referring to Tohaa. Since Infinity doesn't actually have elves, but does have a species that has themes similar to elves in popular culture.
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>>63404432
No, it couldn't. It's a question about Aristeia, which has characters referred to as elves.
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>>63404432
What themes do Tohaa actually share with elves?
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Opinions on Third strike? I really like it so far.
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>>63404555
It's goddamn phenomenal, almost 20 years and Capcom still haven't topped it. Third Offensive is pretty alright too. I'm liking most of the new units and the fluff has some interesting bits.
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>>63403346
>a specific Bakunin slang term for "non-Nomad who came to Vaudeville, got blackout drunk, and woke up an elf".
"Tonight's boytoy"

>>63404555
Most of us don't have it yet.
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>>63404540

Near-human appearance and smugness, that's about it.
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Apparently there is a contest for spanish writefags, prizes are Third Offensive, Uprising, and Outrage for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place for a short story of 3500-5000 words
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>>63405089
Maybe something with bioengineering? Elves are often associated with shaping trees to make homes and shit.

>>63405105
Does porn count?
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>>63405129
>Does porn count?
It says any theme as long as it's based on the human sphere, so I'll take that as a yes. You can't use established characters as protagonists though, only mentions and minor appareances.
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>>63405105
>spanish
Man fuck CB. I actually reckon I could have demolished a contest like this.
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>>63405288
Well, TECHNICALLY, it doesn't say that the story have to be in spanish.

http://wargarage.org/articulo/concurso-literario-de-infinity-the-game-en-wargarage-org/?fbclid=IwAR2khL-8UNBIBpQ3dQOAlMqj20MZ4fPbuedsBxAs0umDiMhvR9hkMh6kkoI
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>>63393760
Literally a dumbass.
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>>63394864
You have koorie queen and hannibal. So, soon.
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>>63394904
>Shadespire
Disgusting
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>>63396914
Naw, fleet game.
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>>63397416
>Honestly, if Aristeia is a hint of what their fantasy game may look like, I've already lost interest.
Idiot
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>>63404807

Balance is awful and parry is an awful mechanic that kills zoning and makes projectiles only useful in certain situations.

Fight me nerd.
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>>63405711
>makes projectiles only useful in certain situations.
Shouldn't everything have times where it's not useful?
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>>63404505

And Aristeia takes place in the Infinity universe, yeah?
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>>63405129
>Elves are often associated with shaping trees to make homes and shit.

This is what I was thinking. They are a lot more tied to nature than the other factions. Also the smugness.

They even have a Dark Elf parallel with Fraacta.
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>>63406255
Yes, Aristeia is a sporting competition in the Infinity universe.
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>>63406255
No matter how you twist, nobody is going to believe you're anything other than a dumbass who made a stupid assumption and doubled down on it instead of going "whoops, I made a mistake". Nobody calls Tohaa elves but you, they're called artichokes.
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>>63405129
>>63406287
I don't really see genetic engineering as being intimately connected with nature. In fact, that seems entirely contrary with how elves are usually depicted, preferring not to twist things out of their 'natural' order and such.

Tohaa are their own thing. They're not elves at all.
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>>63406372
> being intimately connected with nature

It's easy to win an argument when you put words into the other guy's mouth.
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>>63406400
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>>63406287
>They are a lot more tied to nature than the other factions
Sure, they're not the exact words, but you it's the same shit. Don't be intentionally obtuse. Tohaa having very little to nothing in common with elves.
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This argument is silly. Tohaa are genetic engineers that communicate via pheromones and obsess over numbers, not one-with-nature fey types that live innawoods. Ariadnans probably have more in common with elves than Tohaa.
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To be honest, I think a lot of the Tohaa = elves stuff comes from Tohaa sharing a few beats with Eldar. But the things Tohaa have in common with Eldar are not the things Eldar have in common with elves.
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>>63406685
There's the throughline of being smug assholes and resembling kind of lanky humans, I think that's where most of it comes from. Very big and obvious surface level stuff.
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>>63406779
>being smug assholes and resembling kind of lanky humans
That's just French people you're describing.
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>>63406038

Let me rephrase. Very rare situations. Parry completely kills the zoning playstyle.
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>>63406514
hell ariadna use the force of their world (antipodes) to fight their battles
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>>63406446
Elf enough for a person who refers to "elves" to be referring to Tohaa
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>>63406446

>More tied to nature = intimately connected

Seems like you escalate the person's association of Tohaa and nature

Elf enough for a person who refers to "elves" to be referring to Tohaa
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>>63406514
It's visually clear that Ariadna is opposed to nature by their aesthetic. It's further enforced by their lore where they are at odds with their planet.
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>>63407779
Definitely. Not like there's anybody more obvious to be referring to.
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tohaa have the natural element, and the annoying manipulator element, and the "literally everybody who isn't us can go fuck themselves" mentality, which are all strong elf traits

but i gotta go with haqqislam for elves.
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Is it almost mandatory to bring an engineer along when using a TAG?
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>>63410204

Almost.
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>>63410204
Most of the time you will want to be able to bring it back up.
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>>63410204
Unless you've taken a Gorgos, which needs a doctor (and an engineer to deal with IMM states, but not to heal it, so slightly less required), or have a TAG cheap enough to be throwaway, then you need an engy.
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>>63410631

Doctors can only heal the Unconscious. So it can heal the Gorgos pilot, not the Gorgos.
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>>63410631
Gorgos can't be healed until unconscious, at which point it isn't worthwhile. What you really want for that bitch is symbiobombs with revitalis.
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>>63410682
>What you really want for that bitch is symbiobombs with revitalis.
And SymbioMates, of course.
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>>63396381
>Didn't they tease "a new way to play Infinity"?
Still hoping for massive army sized full scale war on Paradiso.
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>>63396381
an xcom-like game where youi choose your faction and assemble your team fighting through the human sphere would be rad as hell. and that's exactly why we won't get it.

Also they said time and time again that are stretched for resources to the point that they need to pull model from production to free up space for new releases, I somehow doubt they have the budget or manpower to develop a game - or that they're willing to give away their IP to a dev studio.
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>>63405698
>Actually liking all the retarded looking designs
You're allowed to be wrong
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>>63411927
What unit is this? Malignos?
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>>63411974
Seed-Soldier, looks like. The pipes match up with their existing design. They're apparently going to be retooled into a more specialized unit rather than cheerleaders, so this time all the pomp and circumstance surrounding them may not be as ridiculous as it used to be.

Not sure how I feel about the skull face. It's a cool unit feature especially if Seeds are becoming shocktroopers, but I don't think I'd want it for all Shas. I hope they keep it varied.
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>>63411974
No idea mate the pic doesnt say but the biok does sgare info about the shas in that they are a technocrasy and they do breed normally and seed pods are a last resort.
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Which miniatures do you use for the Boarding Shotgun Strelok? (except the Boarding Shotgun Scout, which is a pretty obvious choice). Bonus points for nice looking miniatures which can be acquired separately in Blisters.
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>>63412604
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>>63412604
Get over here!



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