>this bellend will be strutting around the pitch in the PL next season
Yeah, Newcastle or Bournemouth maybe.
deservedly, he's by far the most talented player in both the playoff games I watched
>>92784189In a spurs shirt hopefully.Id love to see villa back in the prem, much moreso than derby, but it would make signing him probably impossible
>>92784189Hope he gets his fucking legs broke
>>92784189>struttingthat's a weird way to spell falling over
he looks like he belongs in those ''Living WIth My Ex'' reality shows
>>92784189But he already played in the Prem a few years back, also why does the average Irishman always looks like this?
>le plays 5 good games a season lad that everyone still rates as a world class prospectJames Maddison is Grealish but actually consistently good
>>92784189WELCOME TO SPURS
Leeds would have took more
>>92784189never seen him do anything but pass sideways, or dribble and fall over
I kind of like him now after the whole getting punched by a Zulu then scoring the winner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xId_x0WdB3I
How can you have any respect for a player like that? What he did to Ireland, unforgivable.
>>92785292ireland have enough english players
>>92785310>ireland have enough english playerJack Grealish was born and raised in England to Irish parents, he's Irish m8.
>>92785422no, his grandparents were, mongpretty much any english person has irish ancestry somewhere down the linehe's as brummie as they comehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cxzuI3uuFI
Oof can't wait xNice tight arse on him aha x
>>92785462Both grandparents on both sides are Irish from Ireland, meaning both his parents are Irish, meaning he's fucking Irish, not English regardless of where he was born and raised. He's ethnically IrishYeah, I get it he grew up a dirty brummie, but he's still Irish.
>>92785292compared to what Declan Rice did I don't really have a problem with him. I just think the rules need to be that once you're turning out for U17 team for a country that you're committed to them at that point. Players that aren't good enough for English youth teams using Irish resources to develop then switching to England because they take a step is fucking retarded. Just take the confusion out of it and make them pick then.
>>92785542It doesn't really work like that outside of yankland. You can't claim you're Irish if don't have an Irish accent, weren't brought up in the culture, you'd get the absolute piss ripped out of you. I have Irish and Welsh grandparents but I would never fucking dare to call myself anything but English based on my upbringing.
>>92785542French team isn't French then
>>92785580It's different if someone is fully Irish on both sides. I know lads who spent their early years in England then their family decided to come home in their teens and they're basically Irish.
>>92785542>His Grandparents were born in Ireland so they're Irish>His parents were born in England so it means he's Irish> Grealish was born in England so he's Irishwow, absolutely outstanding mental gymnastics from the yank. Do you not realise that the whole of the British Isles breed with each other, everyone in England has Irish ancestryLiterally the entire Irish squad were born in England lmao.
>>92785542>americans talking about culture and heritage>ever
>>92785587You're right, the French team isn't french minus a few players
>>92785639Okay, at least now that we know you're dying on that hill
>>92785612You brits don't understand genetics and ethnicity. It doesn't matter where a person is born or raised, if you're welsh and born and raised in fucking korea, you're still welsh. Same rules apply for the real irish players (not the ones with a distant grandparent) born in england. You sound like the damn frogs tryin to defend your national team and its sad
>>92785678Shit man guess america is just filled with poles, irish, germans and brits. No one can actually claim to be american
he's still a bellend but he has matured since a few years ago.
>>92785678It does matter, Europeans are ethnically very similar, it's the culture and language that divides us. The reason we make fun of Americans is because you think you inherit specific traits through heritage and it's complete nonsense. The difference between an Englishman and an Irishman is more political and ideological based.
>>92785422He still probably feels English though. Same with Rice. They grew up with English lads and hence identified with them and supported their national team. It's only natural they would dream of playing with England and not Ireland. I don't even blame them. I would feel bad if they were trapped with us when they didn't want to be
>>92785630> Brits thinking pasty white monarcucks from socialist isles of rainy bad food and sadness are different from each other
>>92785575behold the reverse
>>92785731You just defeated your own argument, bravo.
>>92785731You tried x
>>92785709American is not an ethnicity, its a nationality, just like being British is a nationality. English is an ethnicity. If Grealish wanted to play say for a hypothetical British national team, than fair play. You would think an American wouldn't have to explain nationality and ethnicity to you
>>92785767National team = nationalityThank you for playing
>>92785759Thats another american, I have no idea who this guy is lol I'm the guy talkin shite about Grealish
>>92785767The idea that pure Anglo-Saxon and Celtic blood lines run parallel to each other for the last 2000 years is nonsense. Everyone on the British and Irish isles are a mash up of Celtic, Saxon, French and Scandinavian. Our differences are based on politics.
>>92785783Okay, you don't know the difference between ethnicity and nationality. Got it
>>92785809Of White British and Irish rather.
>>92785809This#getsomeeducation you dumb amerifat
>>92785767Is Cornish a nationality or ethnicity?
>>92785809The idea that all Welsh, Jamican, Irish, and Scottish are all pretty much close enough, is fucking nonsense.
>>92785875They literally don't have a nation, but they're closer to Welsh than anything. Celtic nontheless
>>92785906Most sane folk don't consider darkies to be British or Irish. We all roll our eyes when they say they are "black british" or "british asian".
>>92785934But they are literally English, which you said was an ethnicity before
WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE JUTES??!
>>92785944Actually, from what I have heard, it sounds like you all consider anyone who was born and raised in England to be "English". "No such thing as an ethnic Englishman"
>>92785954Yes, I still contend that English is an ethnicity. You are using a loop hole to form an argument because Cornwall is home to "cornish" people who are of Celtic origin, which is located entirely within England. So yes, technically they are English "geographically speaking" but they are still Cornish.
>>92785966You're just grasping at straws now. White British and White Irish are basically the same thing ethnically, we're just different politically.>>92785994The Celts were a tribe that originated in the Alps and spread across Western Europe. Being Celtic in today's world to do with speaking the language and upholding the culture. You wouldn't tell the difference between a Welshman and an Englishman standing next to each other.
>>92786078I dunno, the sheep on his cock would give it away
fuckin hell, trust a yank to bring in some autistic debate about ethnicity like it has any relevancegrealish is an english lad, with some irish roots - same as a lot of fucking people living in modern britain. you're speaking like he has 100% irish ancestry, it even says on wikipedia one of his ancestors was an english bloke who played for villaso many brummies have an irish grandparent. it's hard to grasp because you're american
>>92786078You're simplifying too much. Same could be said about some Englishmen standing next to a German or Swede. They may look similiar but that doesn't mean they're aren't differences. Just like Koreans, Japanese, and Chinese may all look very similiar, but they are ethnically still different.
>>92786154"everyone who is born in england is english"
What you have to remember is that Americans view European history as like a neatly segmented theme park. They think it no more likely that you'd find an Irishman in England than a Pirate in the Space Zone.
>>92786173There are differences because countries like Germany have always had massive swathes of immigration, no small part because they were in the Holy Roman Empire which was essentially a medieval European Union. Britain and Ireland were on lock down since the 11th century. Of course we all share certain ethnic, nobody in the UK is trying to deny Anglo-Saxons are a Germanic race, English and Danish is a very similar language.
>>92786256I'm not implying anything against the English. I'm simply stating that there are Irish, Welsh, Scottish, and English ethnicities not where you are born. Ex. Sterling & grealish are not english. I understand the point that a lot of England today may have an ancestor from Ireland like Rooney or Jagielka or Michael Bisping even, but there's a difference between having full foreign ancestry like amir khan & jack grealish than just a distant Grandparent like Gareth Bale (who many don't know was actually eligible for england)
>>92786188>grealish isn't english because he's ethnically irish>doesn't even have a 100% irish background>has a mixed irish and english background, like a lot of english people, yet he's 100% ethnically irishthis is your logic, stop spewing this drivel
He should go to Leicester and form a deadly trio with Maddison and Barnes.
>>92786317Your assumption on Grealish is that Ireland is some unspoiled Celtic ethnostate. What kind of surname is Grealish? His Great-Great Grandfather was born in England and played for England. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Garraty
>>92785809What I've learned today...Although, the English like to make fun of white americans for being "mutts" "amerimutts", when describing themselves, the English consider themselves a large combination of celtic, french, scandanavian and other ethnicities.
>>92786647Most English people don't consider it, they're just like "am fuckin English m8, u wna fuckin go?WHITE ROSE WHITE ROSE"
>>92785580I know loads of muppets who claim they are irish because of their "dads brothers mums goat's vet" was irish.pathetic behavior desu
>>92786173An englishman standing next to a welsh is definately harder to tell vs an englishman next to a german or chinese next to a japFuck, japs and chinese look way different id say
>>92786647yeah but the mutt meme is funny as it involves brown people, and it's racist ennit. it also pokes fun at american nearly being a non white countrynot the same level of humour or as insulting when it's white europeans
>>92785208>James Maddison>consistently goodlolslightly moreso than grealish, sure, but he has lots of bad games
>>92785587no shit, retardfrench team is just all of africa's talented players stolen and put into a team masquerading as a european national team
>>92785208Grealish was - and is - loads better than Maddison and showed it last season when they were both in the Champ. Only premier league plebs don't rate Grealish.