Has to be racism right?
>>90848137Just some zoomer things
Also champion of the prestigious campeonato carioca, something xavi, scholes and gerrard could only dream of winning
He was a passanger on most of those teams
Seedorf was before the mobile/youtube age. Deal with it, boomers.
>>90848557>He was a passanger on most of those teamsT.zoomer
>>90849046T. cluelessHe wasn't among the Top 5 most important players on any of his CL teams
>>90848137same with Benzema really, 4 CL and still not really getting any credit not mediatic enough I guess
based chaddorf, only player to do so, ronaldo following his footsteps
>it's a find a literally who's baiting opinion on twitter and wait for replies thread
>>90849169What's not to understand?List your top players for Ajax, Real and Milan
>>90849191First off its a team game not a marketing competition of who gets the plaudits meaning some individual has won the competition>AjaxRijkaard brought the experience and Blind was captain but I don't see how you can say Seedorf was inferior to the rest of his team>RealDo you rate Karembeu over Seedorf or something?>MilanGranted both teams were full of world class players but I don't see why you'd single out Seedorf as being inferior to Gattuso or Ambrosini
>>90849191He was Fucking sixteen when he was at Ajax you dumb piece of shit
Does someone really rate Scholes and Gerrard over him?>>90848557fucking retard, go watch Milan's 2007 CL campaign, it's basically him and Kakà doing all the job, and he wasn't even in hi prime anymore.
Gerrard won a CL with a team consisting of Djimi Traore, Steve Finnan, Milan Baros and Harry KewellSeedorf played on two of the most stacked teams in history at Milan and Madrid, and probably the greatest generation of dutch players at AjaxCheckmate faggots
The black toni kroos
>>90848137Scholes is a meme that got popular over fake quotes, and Xavi and Gerrard are more mythical cause they stayed the whole relevant part of their carrers in the same team.
>>90849286>First off its a team game not a marketing competition of who gets the plaudits meaning some individual has won the competitionWell, but it's used to praise Seedorf as an individual playerYes it's a team game - therefore it's worth looking at what he contributed to the teams success in each case
>>90849359well he contributed plentyand if you're using titles as any measure of a player at all then surely titles at more different clubs than anyone else tells you somethinganyway you're making out that these 4 CL winning teams had as many as 6 passengers each?
Dutch/black Charlie Adam tbqh
>>90849359Seedorf could do everything. He had incredible vision, could read the game easily, great passing and an amazing shot. He was also very strong, stopping him or taking the ball of him was not an easy task and he could play in literally every position on the pitch due to coming up through Ajax's academy.The only team he wasn't top 3 most important players and leader was the NT because he wasn't one to blindly follow every order and douch coaches couldn't/can't deal with that
>>90849351>most stacked teams in history at Milan and MadridNot even close
>>90849411>top 3 most important player>at Milan>implying no Maldini, Kaka, Pirlo, Shevchenko, Nesta or Gattuso
>>90849454>MaldiniBurnt out for a decade before he retired>Gattusole agressive midgetSeedorf shits on those two
>>90849454Yes, he was as important as Maldini who was the most important defender and captain, Nests was great and crucial but not like maldiniKaka wasn't as good from the start but when he reached his prime he overtook seedorf Pirlo and Gattuso were great, Seedorf was better, he was also more versatileShevchenko was as successful thanks to Seedorf and Kaka, that's why he turned to shit in England when his best midfielder was Frank "run forward and try yo score a blooter" Lampard
>>90848557Yet he was a starter each time
>>90849454shevchenko is way overrated
>>90849093nobody rate slaves of cr7. he's not an alpha nobody respects him
>>90849309Is that relevant to what he said?
watched seedorf in a veterans match a few years ago. He could have still played professionally then, years after he retired.
>>90848137No, it's because Xavi IS better than him. Scholes and Gerrard are debatable
>>90849906Iniesta is better then all of them
>>90848532Also got them to a respectable third place in the national league.Fucking legend.
I thought he won it five times, once with Ajax, then twice with Real and Milan
Only retards or english pundits would rate him over Slippard or Scholes. Seedorf is elite
>>90849972that doesnt make any sense
It's probably just because he's basing that viewpoint on what the English say, and of course they're going to rate English players over him, same as if you asked the Dutch they'd probably rate Seedorf highly compared to Gerrard and Scholes. Xavi just deserves to be rated as highly as he is by everyone, so there's no need to drag him into this.
Boomers like me rate players based on their skills. If they look like gods when they play they're great.zoomers rate players based on the amount of trophies
>>90848137Classic zoomer>Goes on trnsfermrakt to check Ron's UCL record>Sees Seedorf with 5>Opens twitter>Seedorf never gets credit he deserves as fotball player
>>90851015>>90851482I agree completely, trophies aren't a reliable correlation with how good players actually were and zoomers overrate/underrate based on trophies, but Seedorf was genuinely worthy of playing in top teams for over a decade and would have been a credit to any team really over that period.
>>90848137kek, i remember seedorf rated as a world class player? he left milan like 7-8 years ago and played the last of his career in brazil, why would any zoomers talk about him, when they didn't see him play ?
>>90851699Because virtue signalling is more important than the actual sport?
>>90848137trophies don't tell the whole story.
>>90849430I now remember Savio.
>>90851784>muh football intelligence
>>90848137Never got the impression he was hugely loved by fans of the clubs he played for. He left Ajax very early. Was part of a set of Dutch players who failed to deliver on huge potential. I remember Milan fans complaining, especially later on, about him not putting the effort in week to week.Obviously a top tier player, but he'll never get a dedicated defence force the way one-club legends do.
>>90849430That starting XI was based, though