DEN: Gary Harris (hamstring) is out for ThursdayUTA: Raul Neto (groin) out for at least two gamesCHI: Zach LaVine (left ankle) probable vs WarriorsMIL: Giannis Antetokounmpo (hip/quad) probable FriDET: Blake Griffin (rest) listed 'out' ThursdayPOR: Damian Lillard (elbow) questionable FridayCLE: Larry Nance (right MCL sprain) out 2-4 weeksLAK: LeBron James (groin) out til at least Jan. 16DAL: Dennis Smith Jr. (back) will not play FridayMIN: Wolves coach pushes pace, may expand rotationIND: Darren Collison (leg) questionable vs. KnicksIND: Myles Turner (shoulder) questionable FridaySAS: Aldridge with huge night (56pts) over OKC in 2OT
>>90168000first for thunder suck dick
is LMA elite?
will pop make it to #1?
>>90168000can pop reach #1 most wins by the end of the season?
Wow to be in the company of lenny wilkins and don nelson. What an honor. Who the fuck are lenny wilkins and don nelson?
>>90168055>can pop get 114 wins by the end of the seasonkek but really if hes gonna stay for 2 more seasons he can get there as long as the Spurs stay semi competitive
>>90168055Can by the end of next year.
>>90168069>Who the fuck are lenny wilkins and don nelson?People who won a ton of NBA games as head coaches, dumbass.
the lakers need bradley beal. he's the perfect 2 gaurd for bronny
>>90168069>Who the fuck are lenny wilkins and don nelsonplease just kill yourself, retard
do you think the Spurs can sign some good players in the offseason if they do well this year?obviously not talking about people like KD and Kyrie, but good players nonetheless. especially younger guys because they're all old as fuck
>>90168000Pop has already been exposed as a Duncan babby. Trash tier meme coach that got carried
>>90168135>Pop is a Duncan babby>carrying a team with a shooting guard with no 3-point ability and a bunch of shitty young dudes and burnt-out old guys to a playoff berthok my dude
>>90168117Spurs actually have some young players, they just have what you might call "veteran leadership" if you weren't willing to admit they have some geezers to go with the kids. They could get a good FA, there's some cap room IIRC, but they tend to favor home-grown talent.>inb4 LMA and Portland>LMA went to college 45 minutes away from where the spurs played at the time
>>90168117The only money they'll have is the MLE and being able to re-sign Rudy Gay. None of the FAs in their price range would move the needle.
>>90168000can you imagine resigning when you're 4 wins away from being the winningest coach in nba history
>>90168148They would need to move Pau and mills to be able to make an offer for a decent FA, if they could pick someone up and bring dejounte in as a starter again and white from the bench they could be really good next season.
>>90168191they need to move Pau anyway, he'll be pushing 40 by the end of the year. Mills is an underrated shooter though so the FA they sign would have to be solid
>>90168174what about that retard jerry sloan who retired win away from 3rd
>>90168215The list of FAs in the summer is just too good to not move Mills if you can to make spacehttps://hoopshype.com/2018/11/27/nba-free-agency-2019-the-top-players/look at this list, even past the top 30 you still have guys that can contribute as above average starters
>>90168069t. 15 year old faggotGo to sleep
>>90168191They won't move Patty.
I feel like the last weeks or so has been a good indicator of who is making the playoffs, and who isnt, both for West and East. I will list them now, in no particular orderWest: LakersWarriorsRocketsThunderClippersSpursTrail BlazersKingsEast:Raptors76ersBucksPacersCelticsHeatNetsHornetsThis is almost certainly the lineup, however there are chances that the magic or pistons snag the 8th seed from one of the nets or hornets, however besides that, this is factually correct based on how well teams are playing thoughts?
>>90168215The last year of Pau's contract is only guaranteed at $6.7 million so that should be good for a buyout
>>90168254Lakers? Nope. Lottery-bound.
>>90168098fuck no. carry his team past the second round and then all the unclutchness and whining about touches will be forgotten.
>>90168264lebron took the worst team in the league to the finals last year and you think he wont make this team make the playoffs?
If the Nuggies decline milsaps team option for next year and move plumdog they can have 30 million in cap space to sign a FA
lmao how's that rebuild looking celshits?
>>90168300Remember when Celshitters claimed Jaylen Bust was a future all-star?
NBA TOP 25 PLAYERS UNDER 251. Giannis2. Embiid3. Jokic4. KAT5. Porzingis6. Simmons7. Doncic8. Booker9. Siakam10. Sabonis11. Fox12. Tatum13. Kuzma14. J. Murray15. Lonzo16. Lavine17. D. Murray18. D'Lo19. Ayton20. Winslow21. JJJ22. Mitchell23. Ingram24. Montrez25. SGA--------->9001. Gaylen Brown>90000001. Bustelle Fultz
>>90168254>Forgetting the NuggetsDo you really think they will drop enough games to be out of the playoffs?Top Tier: Nuggets, Warriors(Should be) Solid Enough: Thunder, Spurs, RocketsFringe Contenders: Lakers, Trailblazers, ClippersDepending on what happens up to the All-Star Game, Twolves, Jazz, Kings, Pelicans, and the Mavs could try to make a run and the bottom three spots would be a bloodbath.
I miss this team desu
>>90168300Just like this.
>>90168307they are pathetic lmao
Jaylen Brown, Hayward, and Rozier ruining Ainge's plan of moving all of them for AD in his last contract year.
>>90168254still some ~40 games to go. some underperformers might catch a break and some overachievers might miss theirs. there will still be drama jockeying for hca between the 4 & 5th seeds in both conferences, and the 6-9 spots in the west will remain fluid well into march and april. we just got a taste of that seeding ambition drama with this spurs/okc game.
>>90168312I didnt put Nuggets up there for a reason, theyre one of the worst PLAYING teams in the NBA (the correct number is 24th) and are not playoff bound, as to why i didnt put them on the list
>>90168289That is correct. He didn't have Lonzo in Cleveland.
>>901682541. Lakers (if they trade for Beal1A. Rockets2. Warriors3. Thunder4. Nuggets5. Lakers (if LeBron is out more games)6. Spurs7. Pelicans (Mirotic is back)8. Wolves East1. Raptors2. Bucks3. Sixers4. Celtics5. Pacers6. Heat7. Nets8. Wizards (look good after Wall's been hurt)Oh, and your list is shit. The Pelicans and Wolves clearly have way more talent than the Clippers and Kings.
How can one ankle injury make Hayward forget how to shoot? His career is officially ruined. I bet Danny Ainge is spinning in his grave. Serves him right for what he did to Isaiah. Karma is a bitch.
Thunder suck dick
How is Markelle Fultz not considered the biggest bust in NBA history? It's his second year and he is already out of the NBA for a non-injury related reason.
>>90168427because judging how big a bust is a fucking year after he was drafted is fucking dumbwait another ten years and then make the call
How do people from other countries determine what their favorite nba team is?
>>90168396Hayward is shook at this point>>90168427Because it is still too early to tell whether he'll actually play again and if the stats actually confirms whether he'll bust
24/7? More like 0/0 now after seeing how shit the Celtics are lmao man up and show your shitty beard baubles faggot
>>90168300bruh they have 3 first round picks this year alone
>>90168512Remember how annoying he was before the season started? He’s fucking evaporated now lmao
Jokic is literally carrying a team of literal who’s as the first seed in the west. If he’s not mvp then the league is a sham
>Jokic is literally carrying a team of literal who’s as the first seed in the west. If he’s not mvp then the league is a sham
>>90168521All three are midround picks. Plus, that Grizzlies pick might not convey if they go inside the top 8. Kings are legit. They will not be in the bottom ten. And the Clippers are pretty legit too.This draft is not even deep either. Waste of assets. Plus, Jaylen is trending toward rotational level player. Celtics will have to offer Jaylen, Jayson, Kings pick, Grizz pick and clippers pick if they want AD.
>>90168573>mid-round picksdid you forget they're going to have the literal 2nd overall pick?
>>90168561>Murray>Millsap>Harris>soon to be Isaiah Thomas>literal whos
should the Knicks trade Kanter for Randolph?
>>90168597>Implying IT with a bad hip will be able to do anything meaningfulSadly there's a good chance he'll be out of the NBA after this season unless he can score somewhat reliably off the bench and Mike Malone can run schemes good enough to minimize his liability on defense
>clippies still without mbah a moutehurry up you fucking nog
>>90168618Remember two years ago when Isaiah was getting ready to pull in the brinks truck? OUCH
>>90168427remember when people called Embid a bust?
>>90168624he isn't as good as he used to be, his shoulder injury last year fucked up his shot and has hurt his defense
>>90168650still a good lad, he could fuck up both shoulders and be less of an offensive liability than avery bradley
was the last three games of this series the most clutch play ever by the cavs or was it refball?did the cavs just hit a groove or did the warriors beat themselves?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDCegwpnlbMim only asking because I'm a bored cavs fan and it really felt like lebron beat curry mentally to win In the end. dude was swatting everything around the rim.
>>90168683Curry is a pussy mentally. I hate Bronsexuals and all the dickriding LeBron gets from casual fans, pussy fans, and ESPN/sports media, but he's an alpha mentally. He totally destroyed Curry that Finals.
NBA TOP TEN1. LeBron2. Giannis3. Harden4. Durant5. Curry6. Kawhi7. Davis8. PG139. Embiid10. JokicThere is a major drop off in talent after these ten. Imagine if the Lakers sign PG13 and traded for Kawhi liked they planned?C: McGeePF:LeBronSF:KawhiSG: PG13PG: RondoBench: Lance, Beasley, ChandlerHoly shit, these team is the greatest ever assembled. Fucking PG13 blew it for chuckbrook.
>>90168648all I remember is phillyfags saying trust the process for like 5 years. Glad it sort of worked out. Besides the outright tanking, more teams need a real plan and patience. Otherwise you end up like Detroit or Orlando with a mismash roster stuck on the treadmill of mediocrity
>>90168648With Fultz it's all mental. He is going the way of Royce White and Larry Sanders. Dude is fucked.
>>90168573They can offer those 3 picks to the Pelicans for AD and if they take Ball and Ingram over 3 first rounders then everyone in that New Orleans front office needs to be fired and flown into the sun
>>90168148The findings of Forbes and White are incredible.
>/nba/ thinks AD is going to LAlmao are you high
Why is Jokic 3pt shooting so shit
>>90168735I feel like the players caught on to liking things like that on social media being a guaranteed headline so they do it to increase their social media presence
>>90168754isnt he shooting like 40% from 3 this month
>>90168707>tfw the Magic have been rebuilding for ten years now
>>90168757He just went 0-5 which puts him around 31% on the season
>>90168754hes an autist and refuses to shoot untill he gets his 10 assists so he hesitates on almost every 3
guess what time it isthat's right, it's bitch o'clock and it's come for you
how are the three biggest nba cancers in durant boogie and donkey gunna play together without total meltdowns
>Aldridge having a 50 point game >Derozen doing shit all game >he still bricks 2 game winning shotsWhy did they give him the ball?
>>90168834I am about ready for Derozan to fuck off. The Canadians were absolutely right, he is spectacularly unclutch.
>>90168806supposedly they all got along on the olympic team, and they are banking on that.in reality there will be acrimony.
Does anyone actually expect Boogie to be anything like he was before his Achilles tear? He never really took his conditioning all that seriously, and Achilles tendon tears have destroyed players who DID take their conditioning seriously.
>>90168889he's going to play like sour milk, which is sad because before he was injured he was having a career season. but he's also a legendary cunt so i guess i don't feel too horrible about it.literally every other fanbase, team, and franchise management is praying he just destroys the Warriors from the inside as soon as he starts playing again
>>90168806The chain of retaliation is what will truly unite this team as one
>the aldridge game tonight>86.3 efficiency>ranked 17 eff points higher than westbrooks triple double with 24 assistsjesus fuck this spurs/thunder game is literally going to be game of the year ZERO DOUBT
>>90168834They fell for the DeFrozen meme
>>90168941Has anyone else noticed that Westbrook's chucking has gone into overdrive this season? I live in Dallas and went to the Mavs game when the Thunder came to town, motherfucker was clanking everything off the rim. I think he was, like, 7-30 by the end of the night.
>>90168941i absolutely regret not watching it 110%was it enjoyable lads?
>>90168427Because Anthony Bennett exists
>>90168959he's shooting 42% from the field, which is the lowest he's had since his sophomore year (2009-10). he's also shooting fucking 23.5% from 3 on 4.8 (yes, 4.8) attempts per game. he's scoring the fewest PPG since his sophomore year.
>>90168117They don't need any.Derrick White is their next big superstar, along with Dejounte Murray (1st team all NBA) coming back next year from injury. Bryn Forbes has also been developed into a starter, along with Davis Bertans being the best 3pt shooter in the NBA.The Spurs are rapidly approaching Warriors level.
>drool over giant black men playing childrens games>be surprised your women start doing the same thingthe absolute state of white american """"men"""" and sport cucks
>>90169001dunno if you're shitposting anon, i don't follow the Spurs very often and can't tell if you're being objective or if shitposting or just riding Spurs cock.i've heard good things about Forbes but isn't Murray made of fucking glass? he's pretty good (especially at shooting) but he's constantly getting fucking injured.also wouldn't players want to go to San Antonio because Pop actually cares about his players unlike most coaches and has a really good reputation among all the players in the league?
>>90169004I dont get it, Aldridge is fucking ugly
>>90169004>>90169012she looks like a disgusting coalburning whore anyway so i'm fine with him getting some roasty-ass pussy tonight. LMA deserves to celebrate, even if the celebration does suck.also, i nearly forgot: thunder suck dick
>>90168145Nigga every coach worth a damn was a talent babby
>>90169063Meant for >>90168135
>>90168780kek. wouldnt put it past him to actually publicly post that
>>90169004she looks like that pornstar who fists her ass in her videos
does watching games in person suck? bad views etc
>>90169093depends heavily on the seatget horizontal seats, seats behind and around the rim fucking suck
>>90168967Honest to goodness it was a mindblowing game.....absolutely worth a watch if you can get it somehow.
>>90168941Also no 3 pointers from him. That's cool.
>>90169225is Pop the last best hope to destroy the Zoomers and being good basketball back to the NBA?
>>90169063Literally not true. Mike budenholzer was getting that shitty hawks team to the playoffs constantly and made a run
>>90169330Pop is a sjw cuckold he’s a gay old baby boomer
>>90169330Bruh. The Spurs are the Patriots of the NBA. They are the biggest flopping team in history. I remember tiny ass A.I. barely brushing up on Duncan and Duncan flying backwards like he was in an Indian action movie. There is no scenario where the Spurs aren't the bad guys. Also, Pops is a massive liberal faggot.
that game was good but there was some serious refball goin' on as usual. OKC players were getting hacked really bad towards the end
>>90169460Good! Fuck OKC.
>>90168308a lot of non-American players in that list...
Oatmeal face ass niggaSkeletor ass nigga Cellulite on the face ass niggaBurnt Pepperoni face ass nigga
>celties keep losing to nothing teams and can't move past 5th seed
>>90169860hahahaha wait till you see the OHH NO NO NO NOONO NO
who the fuck was guarding LMAolike nigga just block his fadeaway
>>90170447Jerami Grant is the starting 4 i think for OKCwhich is funny because he's pretty solid defensively
>>90170447the whole point of the shot is that it's very difficult to block it
>REEEEE women>REEEEE Spurs and PopNever change /nba/
Luka will be a nobody in 5 years
How long until positions truly die?
Toronto should fleece Orlando for Vucevic tbqhwyfdhstv
>>90171206It already has
>>90171206The only positions left are the PG and C. Being a SG, SF, or PF is meaningless nowadays as most coaches just rotate their wings interchangeably in those positions. Even the point can be run by something like a SF if he’s quick enough and can pass well.The only position that will take time to “die” is the Center, because teams will basically always station their biggest players under the hoop for rebounds and shit. Until teams figure out more crafty ways of dealing with the paint, the C ain’t going anywhere anytime soon.
>>90171339>Implying center's won't be Jokic clones in the future.
Who /Nugs/ here?
>>90168098Am I supposed to be impressed? A ducking monkey can score 50 in today’s league....oh, wait...
>>90171450Jokic is still a C though. Maybe not a traditional C, but a C nonetheless, and it’s not to do without his size.
>>90168000>Spurs on 14-3 run and they also demolish OKCAmen btw nice trips op, God bless Pope
>>90169868>Nasoverrated faggot and Zo was right, he ain't no longer relevant. Wu and what each individual member did outside of it, Da Mafia, Onyx and Gravediggaz >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest.
>>90171999I think Nas is still relevant, just not that mainstream.
Teams gonna pick and roll the corps of cousins till deathHe is terrible fit to the warriors
positionless basketball is fucking cancer, prove me wrong
Jimmy Butler just brought 5 championships to my Knicks in 2k. how are your mornings going, /nba/?
>>90168521lmao dude all I've been hearing about the post big 3 era is "muh picks muh picks Ainge is a genius!!" and now they have Jaylen Bust and Jayson "never scored 30" Tatum
>>90172253has he never actually scored 30 points? i thought he went off a few times in the playoffs
>>90172144There is literally nothing wrong with itThe cancer comes from defense being nearly outlawed and soft bitchmade players like harden and curry exploiting that
my warriors should trade kd for demar decute
>>90168987He’s actually shooting 36% from the field, which is shocking
>>90172260Nah, he scores in the 20s all the time but the highest he ever got was 28.
>>90169354You mean the one that had Millsap, Korver, Carroll, etc.?
>>90172470and Horford too i thinkhonestly wasn't a shitty team. no superstars but a lot of above-average guys (plus Millsap was an All-Star at the time iirc)
> Nets are making the playoffs> Mavs, Timberwolves and Kings aren'tGotta admit besides Bucks, Raptors, Celtics, Sixers and Pacers, the East is a joke
>>90172596Very true. Eastern playoffs will be very exciting to watch with the top 5 there, but the West is honestly the more exciting division this season - almost every single team (except for the Suns) can still make the playoffs. Lot of parity, that makes for good basketball
They should remove conferences after the tv deal runs out60 games everyone play each other twice
>>90172637Absolutely fucking based I’ve been saying this for years
>>90172596Nets are better than thes 3 teams cunt
What do you think would be the way to fix the Conferences issue?either>1. Go the MLB/NFL route, dissolve the conferences, and establish two new conferences that are geographically variedor>2. Dissolve conferences altogether. Leave divisions, but they still only serve a mostly-symbolic purpose. Playoff seeding is just a general 1 through 16
>>90169063Carlisle makes the playoff almost every year with some pretty shit rosters.
>>90172674The 2 and divisions are pointless mostly used for tiebreakers
>>90172626My thoughts exactly, I could see any team of the West besides the Suns being in the playoffs and playing good basketball.This is probably one of the most exciting seasons to watch, it's gonna be a rollercoaster till the end. Everybody was like it's game over with Warriors signing Cousins and Celtics are gonna cruise through the East with 60+ wins. I love how Warriors are getting blown out inside their stadium and Celtics struggling. Couldn't stand another final GSW-CLE final.
Lakers fans ONLY!https://discord.gg/xjC3eaX
I think Luka Doncic actually does make the all-star game. This isn’t the same situation as Zaza where a total scrub who had no business being anywhere near the all star game was getting ballot stuffed by his home country. Luka is at the very least close to an all-star level player and won’t get completely shut out in the player/media poll. Plus his votes aren’t just coming from a devoted ballot bombing campaign in his home country, he’s genuinely popular in a multitude a places like Spain, former Yugoslav countries, and Dallas which by itself is a massive media market in the US. Silver isn’t gonna skim the votes on Luka, his popularity grows the NBA. If he wasn’t fine with this, Luka wouldn’t already be getting superstar whistle treatment from refs.
>>90172729literally everyone on the planet save autismo Warriors fans and zoomer faggot bandwagoners want Cousins to destroy the Warriors with is locker room cancerif i had to choose between the two i'd root for the Celtics but Boston sports fans are absolute fucking cancer so it isn't even that easy of a choice.
>>90172803I think you’re definitely right. The League really wants this guy to become big, like a white LeBron James or somethingHonestly I think he will be very good. Probably doesn’t deserve to make the game this year, but next year he will be on that level
>>90172626If the Nets end 6th and the Sixers end 3rd, that's going to be a very entertaining playoffs series.
>>90172995It might take 6 or 7 games but I can’t really see the 76ers losing to the Nets
What will Ricky Rubio free agency look like?- Re-Sign with Jazz?- Re-Unite with Kevin Love on the Cavs?Will he have a big market?
Goran DragicNikola MiroticBojan BogdanovicLuka DoncicNikola JokicHow far does this team go in the East?
>>90172780Larry will never join. Just move on
>>90173098Luka + Joker would win it all with a bunch of nobodies around them ez.
>>90172081He's not and the only good album he made was the first one, and it's been downhill ever since.
>>90172679If only Cuban hadn’t traded for Rondo that year when Carlisle crafted the most historically prolific offense ever out of nothing but a wizardly old Dirk, Monta Ellis, and a mishmash of random role players.It’s so obvious now in retrospect that Carlisle was the true architect of those mid-2000s Pistons teams.
>>90173098>East top 2 for sure
>>90173198Is slovenian, bosnian, croatian, serbian, and montenegrin all the same language pretty much?
>>90173225Similar, but still distinctively different.
>Walt Frazier>John Starks>Melo>Bernard King>Tyson Chandler>All in their prime (statistically best season)how many wins? chip?
>>9017327253-32, conference finals but that's about it.
What game should I watch today? They all look uninteresting.
>>90173301The Lakers because of KUZGOD
>>90173281>85 gameswhat did he mean by this?
>>90173314>Oladipshit >>90173318KUZGOD IT IS
>>90173301Raptors because the Nets beat us last tine
>>90173331including the three preseason ones of course
>>90173335B A S E DASED
Wilt only dominated short white guys
>>90173368True, he would be exposed hard if he played in this era
>>90173337meh, feels like too much of a foregone conclusion who is going to win. That being said, Bulls will be possessed by the spirits of Jordan and Pippen tonight and whip GSW all over Oracle screencap this
>>90173368here's a box score from a game between the Lakers and Bucks in 1970, when Wilt was THIRTY-FOUR and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar was twenty-three:>Wilt: 48 minutes played, 28 points, 23 rebounds, 3 assists: 7-20 FG, 14-16 FT>Kareem: 30 minutes played, 21 points, 10 rebounds, 3 assists: 13-32 FG, 3-4 FThere's another box score from later in the season (1 month later):>Wilt: 48 minutes played, 25 points, 14 rebounds, 4 assists: 11-23 FG, 3-7 FT>Kareem: 42 minutes played, 37 points, 16 rebounds, 0 assists: 17-33 FG, 3-8 FThere's some footage of an old-as-fuck Wilt, playing through injuries and shitty knees, playing neck-and-neck with a young Kareem; reminder that Kareem was averaging 34 and 16 at this time in his careerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJbftrcn41c
>>90173510nice video fggy
>>90173510>anon accidentally reveals his taste in music
>>90173547>>90173558a-anons stopproper vid:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ClJyP2ZnG8
>>90173590No problem anon, sorry for being mean. Here is some rare footage of another beastly game from Kareem. Damn this dude could ball.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Qqe87Xzf4
>>90173631>this nigga's youtube search history
How do you guys feel knowing that in 7 days, demarcus ‘boogie’ cousins will make his season/warriors debut?
>>90173301Warriors because I’m a warriors fan. But it will be boring, I guarantee you that.
>>90173754excited to see how bad he is now and watch warriors fans fall deeper into this pit of despair once they realize they really aren't winning the ship this year, and maybe not even making the Finals.
>>90168000>110 games to goSo, two seasons?Also chekt
>>90173829I concur. He doesn't need to be as dominate as he was pre-injury. Just put him in a dwest role and they're good to go. He'll have open looks at the top of the key and if the defense decides to pressure him, that just opens up klay, kd, or steph.
>gettin the job done
>>90173876have a drink anon
Toronto Raptors are your NBA champions
I keep getting second place in fortnite
>>90173902Raptors have never made it past conference finals and they aren't winning the finals this year or ever.
>stupid cute white gurl messaged me on tinder “aye it’s a match!”what do I say Larry?
>>90173994"sorry i downloaded this app by accident. find God"
>>90173994give her the royal /WL/ broship penusgo with god
>>90173994She's just making fun of you bro. Women are horrible people, she's not serious and she just wants to humiliate you. Tell her that you aren't interested and that she needs to reform herself to find true happiness in life. Bless up bro.
>>90174020>>90174031>>90174052Where’s /WL/ leadership? I need Larry so I can know what to do
>>90173382Nah, Wilt was the one pre-80s player I’d say would still hold his own in the modern NBA. Now he wouldn’t quite be a statistical monster that can drop 100 points in a game, but he would still be a superstar.The guy was very skilled for his size on top of being super athletic. His presence was so great that he completely changed people’s understanding of what effect one player can influence the outcome of games both at the college level and the professional level, and established the very foundation from which Magic, Kareem, and Bird would take the sport to an entirely new level of popularity in the 80s.Guys like Bill Russell are the ones who wouldn’t do shit in the modern era. His legacy was build completely on the fact of being marginally successful at keeping Wilt from just utterly destroying his team while his superior supporting cast could abuse the scrubs playing with Wilt. For the over a decade that Wilt played, the game never once passed him by or did he ever get “exposed”. The only thing that finally stopped him was age.
>>90173994"d-do you like the white stripes?"
Brehs me and this white girl really vibing already. It really cured my depression and I ain’t even fuck her yetI just needed a white girl this whole time
Don't judge, but these are some fireass shoes.
lmao warriors already making excuses
do people discuss 2k here?list some people who have shitty ratings despite being good/decent players>Noah Vonleh>Kyle Kuzma>Mike Conley>Domantas Sabonisanyone else?
>>90174354KKKlay would be perfect for LA, he's literally just a spot up shooter. perfect for the LABron system
>>90174354Excuses for what? All I read from that is they're more focused on winning championships rather than making a dynasty.
Hinkie just got back from climbing Mt. Everest. He didnt make it to the top but he still planted an LD flag for us. Truly an inspiration.
>>90174354The Warriors don’t really have anything left to prove, they’ve won three championships in four years. The Spurs are considered to be a model organization in the NBA and won 5 titles over 15 years with five HoF players without repeating.The Warriors will likely threepeat this year, if they do they’ll likely need to retool due to championship fatigue even with that great roster.
>>90174455Hinkie is locked in jail, Larry’s disciples get white girls first thing in the morning. Lol and I got Larry’s KD build to a 76 overall in 2k19 and have three HoF badgesI do this cause Larry is too busy to grind in a video game, he grinds real life pussy
Thinking guys like Wilt or Babe Ruth wouldn’t have been great in any era is peak brainlet. Their dominance was fueled by the fact that they WERE the first actual superhumanly talented players to wonder upon their respective sports.
>>90173994>ay shawty ur damn right its a match. whats good?slick and casual
Bill Russell would just be Deandre Jordan in todays game, Bernard King would be Shabazz Muhammad
Steph Curry would be BJ Armstrong in Jordan's era
Jordan would be Donovan Mitchell today
Kawhi Leonard would be Bill Russell in the 60’s
>>90174828jordan would be oladipo
Kobe would be Westbrook today
Bird would be Tyler Zeller in todays game.
>Yelich wins NL MVP>Giannis wins NBA MVPis Milwaukee, dare I say it, elite?
Magic Johnson would be Ben Simmons
6MOY: Rose or Lou Will?
>>90173237dont lie ustasha-kun, its all literally serbian
Allen Iverson would be Isiah Thomas (the 2nd one)The first Isiah Thomas would be Patrick Beverly
>>901743552k has been dogshit for years so no
>>90175041The multiplayer is good though especially if you have a squad.
>>90175075>bro just drain threes at 60-75% accuracy with a stretch 2k PVP is the worst because it’s so exploitable, no need for any diversity when pure sharps and stretches can hit such a high percentage of their looks, both open and contested
that Spurs/okc game was god tier
Reminder that Kevin Garnett was a fraudulent statpadding faggot with vastly inferior playoff numbers to Dirk and Duncan.
>>90175449this statpadding meme needs to stop
Eenie meenie miney moCatch a bad chick by her toeIf she holla (if, if, if, she hollas) let her go
>>90175494>Average production hardly increases in the playoffs (Unlike Dirk and Duncan)>Stats take a significant nose-dive when he starts playing next to other superstarsVery definition of a statpadder racking up empty numbers on a shit team.
>>90175687>Stats take a significant nose-dive when he starts playing next to other superstarsthis happens with every superteam though. they all want the fucking ball and they usually come from a team where they're the #1 option so naturally they score more etc.
>Don't have any strong opinions on the nba>just repeat one ernie, chuck and kenny says>never shaw thoughAnyone else?
>>90176099sorry bucko, rockets ain't winning shit this year
>>90175798>What is LeBron joining the Heat>What is Durant joining the WarriorsTheir stats dropped a bit, but nothing like what happened to KG after joining the Celtics. He went from apparent superstar to simply an all-star, and hardly even distinguished himself as the best player on the team. He won his lone championship averaging 20.4 ppg and 10.7 rpg in the playoffs which is dirt trash compared to what Dirk and Duncan averaged in their respective championship years (other than Duncan’s final one which people don’t attribute to him anyway). And that was by far KG’s best year in the playoffs for the Celtics, he completely fell off a cliff after that and Paul Pierce became the clear #1 on the team.
Is Collin Sexton a bust already? He's the worst starting PG in the league.
>>90176155You should give players at least 3 years before calling them a bust, especially point guards
>>90176155Well, he plays in the worst team of the league. He won't be Kyrie, but I wouldn't call him a bust just yet
>>90176212thisretarded niggas calling people a bust after 2 months lmao
>>90176155>League is moving towards taller PGs>Cavs have the #8 pick"Let's draft Sexton who will be the smallest PG in the league and he doesn't know how to pass."
>>90176328>KYSgo back to plebbit
>>90176155reminder that Fox was in the bottom 10 in rpm last season.
I'll reveal your true form
>>90176212Are you an agent? Fuck off.
>>90175494its not always a meme thoughRondo on the Kings led the league in assists and the team was statistically better with him off the court
>>90176285>League is moving towards taller PGsIs this true? The only young short PG I can think of who is any good is Ben SimmonsFrank, Markelle, and Lonzo are all way worse than Dennis Smith Jr who is short. All of the starting PGs otherwise on competitive teams are around 6’3
make the playoffs best of 5 again
>>90174751"Just remember Michael when you played they changed all the rules to make it easier for you to dominate. When I played they changed all the rules to make it harder for me."
>>90172318Ah, so everyone can just put in 7 footers to hack everyone without repercussions? Basketball should be about brute force and not finesse?
Remember when Pistons were holding teams to 80 points, no was watching thatSo yeah average fan likes scoring more than defense so league was just pleasing to the average fan
>>90176776Ben Wallace was a popular star in that era. He was even on the cover of NBa 2k5
>>90169014murray isn't made of glass...he just had an ACL tearsan antonio is pretty boring if you aren't from there it's also way more of a mexican/white people town than a black people town. blacks love houston
>>90174997Don't bullshit the illiterate, my Serbian friend.
>>90176614I want a 3-5-7-9The early rounds need to be exciting again but this way you don't lose out on advertising. Imagine a game 9 ad buy rate? You can't. It would be super bowl levels. Mind boggling.
>Yeah, so it turns out eating seven burgers at one time isn't the best idea. If you missed it, Kanter posted a video of himself saying he was about to eat seven burgers, and he wound up on the injury report the next day.
>>90177032that could possibly make you constipated consuming that much meat and bread. Not worth it at all.
>>90177032God I fucking hate being a Knicks fan
>>90177032I can't stop laughing
>>90177076What does it matter? If he played you would win? His expiring contract has immense value so it’s imperitive he looks a high character hard working individual?Absolutely not, Kanter is the price of excising the cancer that was Melo. Which had absolutely no benefit since KP is made of glass.KP going down enabled you to draft Knox (sub 40%FG) to add to a young core of Frank (KEK), Dotson, and Mudiay(?)Basically lol at your organization. 20 years of misery and nothing at all to show for it
>>90177266p-please stop anon
>>90177032>this is real
>>90177266>Basically lol at your organization. 20 years of misery and nothing at all to show for itConsidering how dysfunction the organization and brutal the New York media are, which max worthy free agent would really want to play for the Knicks?
>>90177352>123 Fuck off oldfag
>>90177403I bet you never read it.
>>90177364I mean having a bad rep didn’t stop Jordan from going along with the Bulls
reminder that white men cannot please white women
>>90176666sports is about physically dominating your opponents. If you want finesse watch figure skating.
>>90177558It shouldn't cater to giga niggas with no skill like Hasheem Thabeet.>sports is about physically dominating your opponentsGo back to /heem/ you queer
>mortgage the future of your franchise for a brief window of opportunity with an ancient LeBron>LeBron gets injuredSTATE of the lelkers
>>90177587true greats have both finesse and brute strength, look at lebron. Even when being basically murdered at the rim he can still power through it and finish with the and 1. That's what sports is all about, not that gay shit harden pulls
>>90177458Reminder no one can actually see your posts as everyone has you hidden
>>90177266My bad forgot Alonzo Trier. Four guards (: and Mitchell Robinson
>>90177633LeBron has no finesse
>>90177699like I said, if your definition of finesse is some guy dancing around for fouls and shooting from far away because he's scared to get hacked, watch figure skating then. Real sports isnt for you homo
>Niggas talking shit about my knicksiesJust wait till next year faggot youll see
>>90177731LeBron is just a positionless giga nigga bully. I thought positionless basketball was hated?
Basketball should basically be a fist fight where the goal is to put a ball in a hoop
Isn’t basketball just WWE? Why shouldn’t players be able to use props and “injure” each other?
>>90177749based and taytaypilledKnicks rise up
>>90177763There is literally nothing wrong with itThe cancer comes from defense being nearly outlawed and soft bitchmade players like harden and curry exploiting that
>>90177749Zion will bust. There I said it.
>>90177822>lmao just put a giga nigga in the key all game
>>90177882Players like kyrie and lebron would still be able to score at the rim...
>>90173098>bojan bogdanovicHell no. Dude cant win shit
When will the KANGZ become good?
>>90178003>21-21They already are
>>90177456Jordan believed he could win a championship by himself though
>>90178003They already are. Hield and Fox are just balling on niggas.
>>90178137That's not good...that's mediocre
is demarcus rozan an all-star this year?
>>90178003When they get a good wing and the young players learn to not crumble under pressure aka blowing leads>>90178349>Demarcus RozanI couldn't believe Pippen actually say that, but the answer is probably not due to how the guard positions are kind of stacked in the West
So a year and a half later, is it safe to say the Kings won the Boogie trade?
How will the Cavs use Zion, what position would he play?
>>90178426Small forward and primarily ball handler, they’ll try to develop him into a point forward since he doesn’t have burner. He’ll check SFs and smaller PFs
I deserve an apology from whoever was telling me the Mavs would be in the playoffs and my Spurs wouldn’t
>>90178426doesn't matter, he'll bust just as hard as bennett who is his spiritual ancestor
Will jazz make the playoffs?Honestly they don't have a lot pf talent on the roster
>>90178518They have the best defense
>>90178491Mavs would have 7-8 seed if they didn't give minutes to a cripple
>>90178518They're 2 games back of the 8th seed. They're the 5th best team in the West by SRS. And they have an easier schedule over the rest of the year than any other West team.so, yeah
>Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, and Celtics are all trash What went wrong?
>>90178622>They're 2 games back of the 8th seed. They're the 5th best team in the West by SRS. And they have an easier schedule over the rest of the year than any other West team.
what's the difference between Zion and Blake Griffin
>>90178674Knicks - best player is injuredBulls - No coach and Marky Mark was injuredLakers - Too young with no shooters and Lebum got an owieCeltics - Didn't trade both injured All-Stars in the offseason when their young core carried themselves to the ECFCavs - No coach, best player injured, rookie PG sucks, and team was designed around Lebum, but Lebum is gone.
KAT is just a white Jokic
>>90178674Celtics is all about egos, and star young players not being as great *cough Jaylen cough*Cavs lost Lebron which means they lost everythingLakers gained Lebron which improved them greatly but theyre still way too young and inexperienced, plus their star young players arent that great a la Jaylen in BostonBulls fell apart after Jimmy was traded and the organization didn't have a plan on rebuildingKnicks are the Knicks + Dolan
>>90178742Zion - Hyper athlete in Charles Barkley's bodyBlake - Average athlete with high IQ in a unique body type for his height due to white genes giving him a broader frame which allows him to pack more weight without affecting his athleticism
remember to vote for all-stars today
>>90177032Just when you think they hit the bottom, the knicks find a new low
>>90177032Kanters contract is ridiculous. How retarded are nba gms??? not only that but he's obviously a brianlet. I saw this on inside the nba and I thought it was a joke to get social media points, but this retard actually did it
>>90177032>As Kanter explains, he has three triple-patty burgers with eggs on them, four additional burgers and a plate of fries.
>Warriors News: Team Expects Klay Thompson to Stay Rather Than Join LakersWhy are the warriors and Klay so delusional? Klay's dad literaly works for the Lakers
>>90177032how did he injure himself eating burgers
>>90178983Very, and this was given the year before the infamous "year of bad contracts" thanks to the cap spike in 2016>>90179104He's probably having the shits from all the grease
>sign a bunch of terrible players to bad contracts>I-it’s not fair the Warriors are too stackedEvery time
>>90179142Lowry would've played through a mere diarrhea.
>>90179152it's not fair only teams like the Warriors and Celtics have competent GM's and the rest are morons. Adam Silver should step in and do something about it, like only have fans who actually are knowledgeable of the game of basketball allowed to be GM's. Stop all this nepotism bullshit and have a nationwide 2K tournament to see who's the best at running a team and have the top 30 be GM's
>>90179239>Ainge>competent GMMeanwhile his “super” team is literally imploding.
>>90179250They won like 5 of last 6 and blew out the 3rd place Pacers by 30.
>>90179239ujiri is a good gm, san antonio and clippers have good gms too.
>>90179239silver doesn't have a leg to stand on after he bungled the sixers thing. That was nepotism at its finest and it backfired
>>90179278Pacers were on a b2b, doesn’t even count.
Who you got today /nba/?
>>90179152Yes, other teams didn’t go out and get Durant because they lacked salary space lmaoNobody complained about the millinials being unfairly stacked until after they tilted the league and put 2 of the league’s 3 best players on the same damn team via free agency. Durant, LeBron, and Curry-caliber players should be facing off against each other, not fucking joining forces.
>>90178426The Cavs will have their pick revoked for cap fuckery, book it
>>90179239Nigga have you seen the Celtics recently? They are a shitshow.
>>90179346bucks, raptors, rockets, jazz, gsw, 76ers, pacers, mavs, portland
>>90179346Bucks, Hawks (trap game, and Embiid is out), Nets (potentially another trap game), Pacers, Rockets, Twolves, Jazz, Trailblazers, and Warriors
>>90179345Also more importantly the Pacers are shit and a win against them is not at all worth bragging about
>>90179435theyre a top 3 team in the East
>>90179346Wizards 76ers raptors pacers rockets twolvs Lakers blazers warriors
Bucks without Giannis hehe
>Bucks w/o giannis oh NO NO NO NOfinna be exposed
>>90179278Let’s put this Celtics streak in perspective: The 3 best players they faced during this little run are: KAT, Victor Oladipo, and a rookie Luka Doncic, and all at home. I am sure tales will written about the time the Celtics savaged these legendary players all in the same week.
>>90179651KAT is great player
>>90179651counterpoint: they play in the eastern conference
>>90179387dare we dream
>>90179651What are you even trying to say? Because they didn't play Lebron and Curry every night and only won 5 of last 6 they are collapsing as a team?
>>90179463>in the EastThere’s you’re problem.
Like my nigga Mo
>>90179701The East is literally better than the West though
Why do the Raptors always get that shot of fans in the arena saying “GO RAPTORS GO” over and over again?It’s always so awkward and cringey
>>90179738>>90179738all NBA "fan experience" shit during timeouts is cringey
>>90179697No, I’m saying it’s a joke to imply that Ainge has constructed his current Celtics team on any level comparable to the Warriors.
>>90179753I’m talking specifically about the pre-game when the fans are in the lobby coming into the arena. >hey guys wanna be on TV?>yes>say “go raptors go” until i say stopFollowed by cringy and forced cheering
Reminder that Bucks are not a contender if they cant do shit without Giannis. Eastern leaders my ass.
>>90179785Giannis is 75% of lebronSo bucks go where he goes
>>90179723I don’t see how people can unironically believe this. Like LeBron completely cucks the East for 7 straight years, finally decides to move west, the 2 best rookies in this year’s class also end up in the west, and some moron thinks this is finally the year the East is better than the West.
Lebron took Cleveland to the finals when he was 23 years old don’t EVER compare a scrub like Giannis who’s never gone past the first round to him
shut up lakespic retard Raptors are playing
demarre carrrol revenge game. you can hate on him but if the raptors win a ring this year, he deserves one
>>90179979Fuck DeMarcus Carrol
>>90179785>team is not a contender if it’s not good without its best playerbrainlet post
>>90179979What the fuck did Demarre do other than brick 3’s?
>>90180057first seeds EXPOSED
time for rockets basketball
>It's yet another "D'Angelo Russell doing pretty hot against the Raptors" gameFor anyone who follows the Nets, why is he being perceived as inconsistent?>>90180057The Nets are chucking 3s and actually making them so far (6/10)
>>90180097Nobody here follows the nets
>>90180057"first seeds", lmao
Chris Boucher would drop 33 on the nets
>>90180097he's streaky, takes bad shots at times, and has this weird habit of beating his man but slowing up only to take a more difficult shot
Nets are absolutely outplaying raptors rn
>>90180138t. I checked out the box score 5 minutes ago
The Celtics are trash
>Larry Sanders is 30 years old and still out of the leagueJUSTWhat a waste of talent that retard was
>>901801652nd best team in the East behind the Raptors
let get the win this time. I'm still steamed about the loss in Cleveland
Literally every team in the west except the Suns would without a doubt make the playoffs in the East. You are talking about a conference in which the gosh dang Hornets, Nets, and Heat are somehow sitting on playoff spots.
why is this young boy coaching the Wolves>Saundersoh he's Flip's kid
The first "horror" anime that i may likeBased
on the board
demaare carrol era raps > this erasoul vs soulless
>>90169847Don't you have a game Kawhi?
Create a team that would clinch a playoff spot in the east
>>90180199i like its art style
>>90179898Bruh, you do realize Giannis is only 24, right? He’s very much on the tragectory of becoming an all-time great.
>>9018023017 Isaiah Thomas'shope it lasts the entire season
Wolves jerseys are nice
>>90180249That's what people said about Brandon Roy
>>90180270nobody said that about Brandon Roy because it was well known he had 0 knee ligaments
>>90180270Roy had degenerate knees, nothing he could do about it
>>90180230Isiah, Lance, Carmelo, Beasley, and Howard with $12 left over to go eat lunch. That makes the playoffs in the East.
What the fuck washington meme
>>90180249Bruh you do realize KD won a scoring title when he was 21 and Lebron took a much worse team than the Bucks to the finals before he was 24, right?
>>90180284And it's also well known that Giannis has AIDS
hold onto the ball capela
so funny to watch fat Luka Donuts dance around defenders in the big and tough and scary NBA
>>90180197why do he wolves love flip saunders so much? he just had the luck of having prime kg not like he was a good coach
I was surprised to see the Wiz-Bucks game be so close until I learned that Giannis wasn't playing.
who are the cavs best 3 players
DeAndre Jordan is trash
>>90180309I think he was a "players coach" i.e. he let everybody do what they wanted, then he got cancer and died
>>90180270How does that in any way conflict with what I said? Giannis is on the trajectory of being a great, I didn’t say he is already there.
>Wizzies missing their star>Buccis missing their star
y'all niggas better start putting some respect on big Z's name. Lebron didn't have the star studded lineups that everybody has now but that team was far from bad
>>90180328Kevin Love Tristan Kardashian That euro kid that looks like an alien
>>90180328Cedi, TT, Delly
the 3 is falling smoothly tonight
Which team has the least amount of African Gentleman on their starting lineup?
>>90180348the bucks team runs through giannis so much, bucks need a 2nd star so bad, middleton just isn't good enough.
>yell because of a dunk and block>immediately gets hurtKarma is a mighty bitch KAT
why Ty Lawson popped off the league so fast?
>>90180368Indian pacers and Portland trail Blazers
>>90180368the spuds are all white 3 point shooters
Michael Jordan college stats:17.7 PPG, 5.0 RPG, 1.8 APG, 1.7 SPG in 30.8 MPGZion Williamson so far:20.9 PPG, 9.5 RPG, 2.4 APG, 2.2 SPG, 1.9 BPG in 26.3 MPG
Bucks need to trade for Otto Porter.
D Rose is a rapist like R Kelly and shouldn't go to the All Star game
>>90180385didnt he had sone off the court issue. iirc he was alcoholic
>>90180299Do you realize Giannis grew up in a country with no basketball culture and his family put food on the table by pickpocketing tourists? He was raw as fuck coming in to the league while KD and LeBron played basketball their whole lives.
>Someone gets paid to "coach" the CavsI've never seen a worse offense than this, no one knows what they're doing
>>90180424lmao why are you talking shit to my dawgkill yourself lol
Saric is so bad
>>90180413bucks desperately need a consistent 3pter. they're very streaky at times.
>>90180435guy didn't want to do it in the first place. they had to give him more incentives
>Kawhi yelling oh my god as he drives to the basket and gets hackedMade my night
based green light
>>90168152The spurs can have all the interest they want. The Knicks aren't trading him. Source: Boston fan who's had 'interest' in AD for years
>>90180415>Luka Doncic is the same value as Ron Baker
Rockets score 42 in the 1st Q on the Cavs
Why doesn’t Boston trade for Bradley Beal?Jaylen Brown, RoZier, and 2 first rounders
Would make my day if >Bucks lost>Raptors lost>76ers lost>GSW lost
>>90180486What is cap space
How do we stop James Harden?He'll never score under 30 points ever again
>>90180496Allow defense Pay the refs more than he does
>>90180496He gonna pull hamstring this month like he always does
can kawhi and danny "jew slayer" green share the MVP
>>90180496wait until he inevitably gets injured like he always doeschange the rules so he cant get over half his points from drawing foulswait until the playoffs where he will drop off like he always does
>>90180496put microchips on sneakers and pain detectors all over his beard so he stops step-back traveling and flopping like a lil bitch
>>90168396>He doesn't watch the Celtics playHayward is fine and will be an all star caliber player again by the playoffs.
Admit /nba/, you miss LeGod
>harden always gets injuredbut he's always been very durable
>>90180410You can’t reasonably compare college stats from the time Jordan played to what they are now. Back then draft-worthy players stayed in college much longer and didn’t just declare after their freshman year. Zion would not be dominating that hard if all the one-and-dones in the NBA this year were still in college.
do you reckon Andrew Wiggins has ever sat down and watched a basketball game in his own free time
>>90180532when did jame harden ever got injured? he is pretty durable. he will probably deflate in the playoff though since D'Antoni has to play him +40 minutes all season long
>>90180573Most zoomers in the nba don't watch basketball
>>90180574I can only think of two times he's had to sit more than 2 games so its the first time I've read people say he's injury prone
>>90180573if wiggins was short and white he'd probably be posting on /vg/ rn
>>90180434>Giannis grew up in a country with no basketball cultureimma have to stop you right there, chief
clark getting some usage
>>90180434That has nothing to do with analyzing Giannis's current trajectory, which is nowhere close to what GOAT contenders were on. GOAT contenders have more than one 1st round exit by the time they are in their 6th year in the league.
get to 80 before the half rockets
wtf this raptors game was much closer. aw
>>90180496Wait till he chokes in the playoff as per usual where refs actually make you have to score against tough defense instead of gifting free throws when you’re touched.
Lakers are shit
>giannis is in his 6th yearfor real? Wtf
harden might be able to sit in the 4th today
Luka triple double alert
>>90180712It turned into yet another "Raptors clamped down the Nets on defense" game>>90180726Yup, he was drafted in 2013 (yes, that class where Anthony Bennett was drafted first overall)
>>90180726And never left the first round lmao
demare carol status?
>>90180833deserving of a ring
Giannis will never win anythingDude cant shoot
>>90180848name 3 better shooters in the East
>>90180850r u serious m8
>>90180850Kyrie IrvingKawhi LeonardBradley Beal
>>90180850Dwight HowardTyler ZellerMarkelle Fultz
>>90180850memy grandmotherlittle schoolgirls
LMAO DEMARRE CAROLL
>>90180850OladipshitAny dude with an -ic surnameSiakam
Make new thread lazy niggers
uncle matt and uncle leo bantz are so comfy
I wish DeRozan was still with us....
Guys please. I’d be bad at making a new thread
yea im thinking we're back
>>90180898You do it, it’s always Americans and Leafs that have to make the new threads.
Norman is literally back!
SOMEBODY MAKE A NEW THREAD RIGHT NOW
I'll make it bros
>the greek fraud>0/0/0 L>MVP
>>90180991>>90180998This is what happens when we dont communicate on defense
>>90178347in the West? no, that's good, especially considering they don't have any All-Stars