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>>89403894That's reserved for WWE and UFC when WWE wrestlers are headlining it
>>89403829>boxingscene posters are spastics because they voted for mostly 200-300k>Eddie not a spastic or having almost the exact same prediction by your own postJust lmao. If it reached almost right to the high end of the range Hearn believed was possible that's not doing what was expected that was doing about as well as was within the realms of possibility. Not to mention that the predictions for the rematch will be even bigger. Undeniably this puts Wilder into an elite group going forward with very major upside. Big success.
>>89403908He's right though. Scoring 50k more than your break even mark is not a "massive success". Wilder and Fury's combined purse was much higher than most of the PPVs you're comparing it to
Also I just browsed that BoxingScene thread and almost all of the replies are from known trolls/mongs
Unban Spain at once you fucking faggot jannies
>>89403951It's good for news but the forum is cancer
>https://www.instagram.com/p/Bq_V5z9gB-o/?hl=esHow does this make you feel, white boys?
>>89403966Thanks based britbroAlso>PicBased Whyte
>>89403940When I say major success I'm not saying this is a Canelo GGG type PPV which made everyone oodles of money. I'm saying that this was a major litmus test for Wilder's ability to be that kind of guy going forward and by extension for Showtime's future ability to make money in the sport. Now there are no guarantees he will be able to, but this going about as well as it possibly could have for a guy with almost no name recognition, low fanbase fighting a foreigner means that it's possible and as big a success as it could realistically be. It does 250k or under as many predicted and Wilder's claims to be a big draw are over and Showtime can't put him on PPV again.
>>89403979It was one of my main sources of information when I was just getting into American boxing but the Mayweather-Pacquiao rivalry killed it
>>89403993Why are you attributing this all to Wilder. Fury is the one everyone's talking about
>>89404001Nah, it's always been shit because of the pactards. Biggest group of fucking morons who talk boxing and that takes some doing.
>>89404008Because even if that's the case now the people who bought it for the most part didn't buy it for Fury in America.
>>89404009The LDBC crew has eclipsed even the Pactards at this point
>>89404022Fury did the lion's share of the promoting, making all the media rounds and whatnot. If that had been Wilder vs Ortiz 2 (for example) it would have done 97k
>>89404032Sure. They needed a good opponent to get people invested like any PPV but that's what Fury was, the opponent. Wilder is the guy people were buying to watch win.That's the best part about this fight actually, I think it's one of those where they both elevated one another's status.
Joyce is a madman chasing Luis Ortiz of all people. Can't think of a worse style match for him except maybe Wilder
>>89404009Don't fucking worry. Based Broner will end the Pactards once and for all.
>Sources: Eddie Hearn and John Skipper met with GGG today in Los Angeles in a continued push to convince the former middleweight champion to sign with DAZN. Told GGG is telling people he doesn’t care about fighting Canelo again; doesn’t feel judges will give him fair shakeBased GGG
>>89404044Desperately needs a win on that level ASAP and Ortiz is about the only guy who has an even lower risk/reward than himself. All of the Miller/Whyte type guys would run a mile from Joyce.
>>89404043I disagree, the prevailing narrative seemed to be Fury's redemption arc. Wilder was the bogeyman antagonistThey needed each other for that one but now I think Fury's prospects are better than Wilder's
>>89404063Even if he doesn't want the fight again it would make more sense going there than PBC. They have Jacobs, Andrade, Smith. If he goes to PBC they have to try and sell a PPV with him and Charlo for the money to be good enough
You now remember when Lil G did 97,000 on PPV lmao
>>89404094I guarantee you Wilder vs. a "Jacobs" type opponent would sell less kek. Or Fury in the same situation. And we are talking about heavyweights here who actually talk english and can talk trash.
>>89404074I don't think he needs to be rushed that fast. The big 3 are finally fighting each other so he's probably got a good year at least to gather more experience and work on his flaws before taking a fight in which he's the underdog. Washington and Duhaupas would be his next two opponents if I was his manager
>>89404076Most casuals aren't as into it as all that. Most of them are just americans who want to watch the american win, and particularly for wilder black americans who want to watch the black guy win.The general impression I got was the one in this tweet, most people came in with a fairly basic partisan view like that but left being quite impressed by Fury.
>>89404081Jacobs is a free agent, could end up back at PBC
>>89404119He's 33, which for a heavyweight means he probably has about a year left of his physical prime. He really does need to get a move on.
>>89404128Yeah that's true, although Haymon would have to promise him PPV for him to want to do that
>>89404081Yeah it would make sense to fight Charlo on Sho PPV as a stand alone fight. But he could also fight some guys like Hurd (who's weigth bulling guys at 154), that would be another good PPV fight, and maybe someone at 168 like Uzcategui
>>89404024>LDBCseen that before, what does it stand for?
>>89404152Lion's Den Boxing Community. It's zealot ghetto Americans
>>89404123>Most of them are just americans who want to watch the american winThis. Trying to imagine a single scenario where an American would ever be supported against a Brit in this country and I don't think it's possible even if it was Mother Theresa herself. Even in these threads a lot of the Brits support unlikeable brits over likeable foreigners.
>that one guy on BoxingScene who is absolutely obsessed with Leo Santa Cruz
>>89404148For it to work they'd have to do Jacobs vs Golovkin on PPV for the IBF then do the winner vs Charlo on PPV. Charlo only has an interim belt, not strong enough to jump straight into PPV. PBC schedule is going to be full of PPV if it carries on
>>89404135He started very late and hasn't had any real injuries or wars, nor does he depend much on speed or reflexes. He'll be fine for a while yet. Plus even if he beat Ortiz right now he'd still have to sit around waiting for a shot at a title since the champs are busy with each other. You shouldn't go from fighting people ranked outside the top 100 to a guy in the top 5
>>89404135um noLennox Lewis beat a prime Vitali at 38Wlad Klit was going on forever and everGeorge Foreman etc etcJoe Joyce has about 5 years minimum, he'll easily get a world title shot by then
>>89404160I've heard that everyone was happy when Barrera beat Hamed
>>89404185not to mention Wlad had his best career performances at around 32-37 years old mark.
>>89404160I reckon Pacquiao had more Americans cheering for him than most of his American opponents
>>89404178Even if he doesn't rely on them they'll still get worse, as will his fitness. I understand his reluctance to throw away his peak years. If he gets a loss so what anyway? He can fight more of those lower level guys afterwards anyway.>>89404185>all time greats can go on to a late ageYeah no shit. Lennox's prime was nowhere near 38 and Joe Joyce isn't Lennox Lewis. He's right in his physical prime right now so why waste it fighting bums.
>>89404202True, Americans are a bit better at it than us. No way we'd be able to fill thousands in an arena for something like Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux like they do.
>>89404187Naz definitely had his haters for being a bit of an idiot but he is still one of the most beloved fighters in British boxing history.
>>89404202That's because America is a very racist country lmao, white people would rather a foreigner win than someone black/mexican.
>>89404246You have to go back rasheed
Starting to think the rematch is nailed on now. All the nicey nicey has stopped and they've both started to play to their base and start the trash talk again.
>>89404307>they don't want to see US succeedWhat could Deontay the bronze bomber Wilder possibly have meant by this?
>>89404246Do black Americans cheer for Joe Smith?
>>89404307seriously hope it doesn't happennot a big fan of staying up until 4am and paying £20 to watch what may aswell be a trailer
>>89404316Didn't say it was only the white people who were racist lad
>>89404307He's being defensive because he knows he lost
>>89404318Nah I do, the first fight was great and unlike with the last two high profile rematches in Kov/Ward and Canelo/GGG where I had a very strong feeling about how the rematch would go and turned out to be right both times this one has a lot of question marks since both have a lot of scope for improvement
>>89404307It's the best path for all involved really, the rematch can perform better than the first one because people know the first fight was good, Fury gets another big fight which he deserves, Joshua gets another fight in, no network issues, when Joshua does the fight winner it won't be an undisputed fight that's clouded by the result of Wilder vs Fury 1
>>89404331Deontay Wilder is ultimately a very nice man underneath it all, anyone who's spent any time with him says so. Whenever he starts with any of this shit and especially with the racism angle he's in promotion mode.
>>89404338That makes no sense, the Ward vs Kovalev 1 and Golovkin vs Canelo 1 were way less conclusive than Fury vs Wilder. Fury completely boxed his tits off outside of two lapses in concentration, and that was coming after a two year layoff
>>89404338what question marks surround this fight?
All fighters from England are bums
>>89404360if only he didn't have his cunt brother cheerleaders
>>89404356>>89404369In a rematch almost always the person who was coming on stronger at the end of the first fight wins the second. In both you felt as though Canelo and Ward had managed to take over and find a route to success they could carry into the second fight. In this fight it's a little more interesting. Definitely of the two you'd have to say it was Wilder who managed to make adjustments to find success in the second half of the fight so it would be easy to say he'll take those, find more and knock Fury out second time round. The fact that Fury was coming off the layoff and weight cutting makes things a lot less clear than that though.
Reminder Joyce is fighting in January and April
it's personal between me and you...
Why's this guy famous?
>>89404420Unironically one of the few Matchroom fighters it's impossible to critique. Always fought the best, had showed a lot of heart, and provided a lot of entertainment.Shame he's making me forget by being such an unbearable commentator.
>>89404420fought in front of 80m at wembley
>>89403936>>89404470You're having a bad day spain.
>>89404420friendly reminder this man was in a basedboy job working in an office and only started boxing seriously from the age of 19.listen to Jake Wood's podcast with him
This is why MMA fighters can't be sharp with their hands:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zip-c_tmdsALook at the amount of shit that you can do and have to learn about
tyson fury expected at the man united arsenal game which is on bt sportreckon he will be interviewed
>>89403989agreed but whyte would get windmilled by wilder desu
Lets have some Parliamentry procedure here, alright?
>>89404499meme sport, even Jones admitted he pulled shit off he saw in video games and youtube videos
>>89404391The boxer always figures out the puncher. It was more difficult for Ward and Canelo because Kovalev and especially Golovkin are highly skilled themselves, but in this case the superior boxer already won the first fight at reduced capacity because Wilder's skills are just downright bad. Wilder didn't really make any adjustments, Fury just made a couple of mistakes due to being out of practice and over-confident. I got up and won the rest of the round both times. If anything I think in the last half of the final round he finally realised he could actually beat Wilder up and he'll be more aggressive and dominating in the rematch
>>89404525Jon Jones is a greco-roman wrestler. I've read he said he got some techniques from Judo>Before beginning his MMA career, Jones was a stand-out high school wrestler and state champion at Union-Endicott High School in upstate New YorkHe took down Daniel Cormier who is an Olympian wrestler who won bronze in the world championships and>NCAA Division I All-American (2001)
>>89404525MMA has had champions from other disciplines go over like Yoel Romero who is a wrestler who got silver in the olympics.It had guys who the ADCC and BJJ championship. It had guys who fought in K1. It had judo champions.
>>89404578>>89404593fuck off nerd, no one cares about that shit
>>89404559Nah that's doing Wilder a massive disservice. He very clearly started relying more on the left hook since he couldn't find a home for the right hand. The 12th round kd which would have won him the fight with most referees/if it had been in the UK took that one step further by using the hook to set up the right and turning it into a combination. There was absolutely a development in his strategy which he can take forwards.
>>89404600Ok how about this one: The UFC had a former boxing champion too but he got choked out by an older guyToney was born in 1968Couture was born in 1963
>>89404488They be trynna keep us down... TO THIS DAY! TO THIS DAY!
>>89404625>acting like Toney was anywhere close to his prime in that fight
>>89403337*5'11" and 126 pounds in your path*Go for it, my dude. Spook your competitors out of the ring.
I hope the rematch is in the uk. Imagine 80 thousand bongs shouting "you big DOSSER" for 12 rounds. Based
>>89404307Poor lad is going through grief.Stage 1. denial.
>>89404414you big dumb plumber from liverpool. you and your gay lover tony bellew
>>89404680The list of places the rematch will realistically be contains one entry.
>>89404307>"Don't want to see US succeed"I'll assume he means black people. This guy is a pathetic race baiter and I cannot wait until he loses that title.
>>89404703That would be pretty disappointing. Part of the reason this is a good storyline is the fighting in the other guys backyard aspect. They should keep going with this theme. Vegas isn't exciting at all for fights. Ive been to at least 3 and it's very sterile.
>>89404734Yeah they'd be leaving millions each on the table by the fight being in the UK so it has very little chance of happening. Frank seemed very keen on the idea of vegas.
>>89404729Yup. No one ever mentioned anything about race in the run up to this fight or afterwards.
>>89404753GOOGLE THAT SHIT NIGGAFO HUNNIT YEARS NIGGA, TO THIS DAY, TO THIS DAY
>>89404765Black history month is February. Deontay is either confused or straight up retarded.
>>89404307Lol I love how he played the race card and the majority of black people in the comments are saying he lost the fight.
Predictions for Whyte-Chisora 2? And since it was expected the winner would fight Usyk, now it looks like them fighting Joshua is more likely with the Wilder-Fury rematch, so who will Usyk debut against at heavyweight?
>>89404346Idk if he's a good guy or not he's been under the microscope long enough that if he was really a scumbag he would've gotten caught beating his wife or shooting dogs or whatever else by now. He hasn't tho. Also you'd be an idiot to not try and promote a full blown fucking race war between these why not casuals are suckers for that shit as fake, classless and contrived as it is
>>89404825>the devil was a fat white woman>hopefully Adonis meets the devil and knocks his ass outThe fucking state..
Now that Wilder has been exposed as a whiner, right hand babby, amateur tier fundamentals, and a race baiter why does /box/ like him again?
Very disappointed in Khan. Should have kept all this Crawford talk quiet, got in the ring with Brook this weekend as though he's finally announcing that and say he's fighting Crawford then instead for maximum effect.
>>89404833He's clearly dumb as a sack of rocks but whenevr he's not trying to promote a fight he comes across as a very down to earth family man who loves his kids. Same as Fury actually, says a lot of shit but seems to be a nice bloke underneath unlike Saunders who is a full on pikey cunt.
>>89404844Because as we found out with the last fight he's dangerous, at any second anything could happen, and that makes it exciting
wouldnt recognise terrance crawford is he bumped into me in the streetnever heard of the cunt
>>89404822Whyte decisionsomeone shit and in matchrooms stable as he'll have to get used to the weight, then another shitter, a couple at Takam/Chisora level, Whyte then JoshuaAndre Ward somewhere in the middle provided Usyk would still be undefeated and all the hints Ward's dropping is not for him to remain relevant and will actually make a return
>>89404822I actually think Chisora beats Whyte by late round stoppage in this fight. Whyte has failed to impress me recently and Chisora steps up when he needs to.
>about to do my first weight cut>get food poisoning and lose 90% of the weight I need tois it supposed to be this easy lads? Maybe Im just gifted
>>89404892Whyte bullied Parker though
>>89404893how much are you cutting?
>>89404900Yeah, but there was a point in that fight where Whyte was almost out on his feet. I thought Chisora won the first fight too.
>>89404893Shit, are you not drained from the food poisoning? I would assume that is mostly water weight you lost too..
>>89404906189 to 175>>89404937Yeah im weak as fuck right now, just bluffing to make myself feel better
I honestly think Fury's gonna win the rematch. Wilder's broken arm excuse and "he didn't beat the count" fluff makes it seem like he's try try the same strategy against Fury. If Fury does strength and conditioning training and moves down to 245 lbs, it'll be much harder for Wilder to win.
>>89404997you say that like it's controversial to "think Fury's gonna win the rematch." It's pretty obvious Fury is going to win it and he's going to make it look easy. I am legitimately betting 1000 $ on a Fury win in the rematch and I will post my bet slip. Easy money. I wouldn't risk it with betting on a KO, but a win whatever way possible is nigh-guaranteed.
>>89404997Wilder obviously believes he can make the adjustments to win a rematch though. He doesn't need to take it he could chase AJ instead if he wanted.
Is Hughie Fury the Frank Grimes of boxing?
>>89404246Huge over-generalization but it can be true sometimesIf the black/Mexican is a shitty person or unlikable and the foreigner is likable and a good person I have no problem rooting for the foreigner, but this isn’t usually the caseWhat you see during these big events that attract casuals is racist people who don’t even follow boxing out to spread their bullshit. I was rooting for Wilder but he lost the decision and now he’s going full race-baiting cunt about it. I would be rooting for Fury in a potential rematch not because he’s white but because he deserved to win the first one and didn’t chimp out despite knowing he got robbed. This is the exception to the rule for me personally though, I’d usually root against the Brit at all costs to keep them from holding all the heavyweight belts but it is what it is. Would feel disgusting though
>>89404516eubank was comedy gold when he was trolling Benn
>>89405011Boxers tend to adapt to punchers pretty easily in the rematches. Wlad vs Peter 1 (Wlad got dropped 3 times) and Mayweather vs Maidana 1 are pretty similar to Fury vs Wilder 1. The boxer makes a mistake and gets dropped. Only difference is that Fury was in worse physical shape than Wlad and Mayweather. Only reason why I said "think" is because anything can happen.Davidson seems smart enough to know what Fury did wrong, and Fury isn't going to take chances with letting Wilder land power shots.
>>89404750Why though. The PPV can only sell more in the rematch. Gate/sponsorships will also increase. What's Vegas adding to their purse?
>>89405026Wilder hasn't really commented on Fury's weaknesses or his own weaknesses in regards to technique. It's just "my arm was broke" or "the ref sucks." If Fury can go from being a fatass to being able to compete with a world class boxer in a year, then giving him more time to improve is gonna make it harder for Wilder.Also, Wilder's broken arm is only a testament to how shit his trainer is. If these punches hurt Wilder to the point where his arm needs surgery, then it's the trainer's responsibilty to expand his toolset so that he's not reliant on the right hand.
Wilder's "broken arm" situation:- happened 12 weeks before training camp started (camp started in September)- had a procedure done- no overstay at the hospital/clinic- could do push ups 2 days afterward
>>89404063Quack quack Lil G
>>89404063>bumlovekin duckin charlo againi
>>89404703This. Last week's fight was about the championship. The rematch will be about the money now. Casinos well be begging them to let them host the fight
>>89405090Can't be a US PPV if it's held in the UK is the biggest reason. Or if they try and make it one at UK prime time it will do awfully. Vegas site fees are far bigger than what a stadium can offer too though.
>>89404063Based Gennadyevich. Dem Kazakhstan boys are a different breed
>>89404063Translation: I know I'll lose if I fight Canelo again and I want a few more paydays and not to ruin my legacy
>>89405334>>89405363How much money do casinos put up for events that generate 300k buys?
>>89405384It's not even about the ppvs. People who show up at the event will also want to place bets, especially the high rollers who sit on the front rows
>>89404958How far out from the fight are you? Drink plenty of water and coconut water to get the electrolytes back in you. Last time I got food poisoning I couldn't train for a week I felt so drained.
>>89404844>Now that Wilder has been exposed as a whinerHilarious>right hand babby, amateur tier fundamentals, aMakes him exciting to watch>race baiter Once again, hilarious.
>>89405462It seems everything is hilarious to you.
Dwyer favours Ortiz over Joyce so that means Ortiz will be out within 5 rounds
>>89405481Well, for the most part. 400 hundred years and to this day got some good laughs out of me. Besides all that race baiting is good promotion for retarded casuals, I can respect the hustle.
>>89405365I love Golovkin, but the fact is he's slowing down. Golovkin of 2013 is a different animal than Golovkin today.Having said that, he still beats 99% of the mw division..
>>89405159He was throwing the right all night. He floored that mascot just fine too
The thing that's most pathetic about this knockdown count is that it's literally 0.5 seconds they are arguing on lmfao. You'd understand if it was 2 seconds but literally half a second.And all the retarded videos Wilder keeps posting all start counting, coincidentally, half a second before Fury gets up.
>>89404844>crying about "race baiting" on 4channel
>>89405384I bet if you can get enough high rollers on the tables with the attraction it could easily outstrip a football stadium full of chavs
I think we can all agree that Wilder is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
>>89405542no, I will tell you what is the most retarded thing - 10 count =/= seconds, literally has always been like that. If anything, that count was too fast, normally fighters get more time. I agree that Fury was basically lucky the ref didn't wave it off right there, right then, but complaining about the count lmao. All these faggots should read the boxing rules.
Wilder won the fight but lost the decision
>>89405654>luckyHe was unlucky cause most refs would've called it there, and if the ref called it, no one would have protested. Of course the fight was fixed for a draw so none of this actually matters lol.
>>89405684how does that make him unlucky?
In the rematch Fury should press Wilder on the back foot more. He has none of that KO power when fighting backwards at range, he always needs to wind it up. Furys mistake in the first fight was relying too much on defensive slickness. In the exchanges where Fury initiated he basically always got the best of the action. Come forward more, but keep range.AJ would also beat him easily with that basic game plan.
posted this in the wrong thread, sorry bros, please read:feels like this was the biggest ppv in yearsnot because of the numbers but because of the buzz it creatednew stars are bornsuddenly people are interested in the heavy weight division againremember what happened after canelo - ggg?people bitched about the corruption but that was ittyson fury on the other hand is a proper legend already for putting on display a phenomenal performance especially considering the circumstances and for getting back up from the dead
>>89405697He just got sparked out hard and hit his head on the fucking ground. He got up fair play, but if Wilder hit him again there would have been serious issues. That last knockdown is going towards Fury's future cte for sure.
>>89405727In the rematch, Fury should just not get knocked down twice lmao.
>>89405727Wrong, he dropped ortiz the first two times on the backfoot
>>89405300>HE GOING TO ESPN TO FIGHT BRANT, HE DON'T WANT THAT CHARLO SMOKEJermall was shook af of danny he's gotta be shitting himself right now
>>89405727In the rematch they should fix it for a controversial split in Wilder's favour
this whole thing is a kind of an inverse Zab Judah - Kostya Tszyuwanting the ref to lay off while Zab is doing the stanky leg all over the ring
>>89405779Hardly. They were basically standing in front of each other.
>>89405416/ourguy/ got Pikachu on his team, who's Charlo got?
https://twitter.com/talkSPORT/status/1070273469911367683Seems like the tide is finally turning on the Hearns accountant talk. Fans finally doing what I've been saying they should be doing for years, tell promoters to fuck off with their purse split talk and just get the fights made however it has to be done. We don't care who makes what.
>>89405920How is he /ourguy/? He looked weak on Saturday.
>>89405862Here, I'll spoonfeed you dumbasshttps://youtu.be/TKAzyvsvzXk?t=2511thats called moving backwards
>>89405515Exactly. He stops Andrade and Saunders, possibly Jacobs in the rematch. I think he'd outpoint Charlo. If Hurd were to move up, he'd outpoint him too
>>89405946I just watched it.
>>89405768What the fuck are you talking even about? Has nothing to do with what I initially said. Fury was lucky there was a ref who counted him instead of waving it off, that is retrospect. If Wilder hit him ahead, he fell into a coma and so on, then yes, he would have been unlucky. But instead he came back into the fight and battered Wilder with a couple of solid shots. And the shots Wilder took during this fight and the fight against Ortiz are also going towards his future CTE, just like the hits Joshua took against Wlad are going towards his future CTE.
>>89405941He ended the Cuban meme, takes on all challenges, has Charlo shook, and is willing to move to 160 to fight Golovkin
Has anyone posted this meme on here?Already hyped.
>hates the GBP memeWhy is Money "Floyd" Mayweather so based, fellas?
When's our boy White Chocolate fighting again????
Most Based Ref in the sport
Whyte or Chisora?
>>89406315Whyte. I don't think there's an active boxer who's taken more damage than Chisora, he'll be brain dead in 10 years.
>>89406257knuckleheads btfo. Tbh why don't we have a screen with the countdown actually? So the fighter falls,
>>89406504so the fighter falls, somebody presses a button, and there is an automotized count. The ref is then just there to decide whether the count should continue or not.
>>89405768>hit his head on the fucking groundI don't think he banged the back of his head on the canvas.
>>89406315Whyte. Not often you get a completely different fight and outcome the second time around
>Crolla fights Linares over FlanaganHOW BRAVE WHAT A GUY BASED CROLLA DARES TO BE GREAT>Khan fights Crawford over BrookDISGUSTING HE'S DUCKING KELL WHY IS HE TAKING A FIGHT HE'S GUARANTEED TO LOSE INSTEAD OF GIVING THE FANS THE DOMESTIC DUST UP THEY WANT TO SEEThanking based Amir every day for exposing this group of charlatan company men hacks for the pathetic losers they are. Hope all of them die in a car crash.
>>89405727I read it the same way. Will also help his chances of getting a decision.
>>89406583Everyone in this image is retarded except Macklin
>>89406583Kevin Spacey on the left
>>89406691>no marquezNOT based in the slightest.
>>89406315Can we feed the winner of this fight to Big Baby?
>>89406691Going to be honest none of those three are HoF worthy. If guys like that are getting in it's too diluted.
>>89404123>>89404160>>89404202Americans often root against our own fighters though, it's really stupid.Rarely do we ever have the same attitude as British fight fans do, which I think is a shame.Hell, even with Wilder, most of these Black youtubers either were the ones making fun of his shitty form and technique in years prior, or didn't care about him at all until recently where he brought the race angle.And now they've immediately turned on Andre Ward just for saying Wilder didn't win the decision, going so far as to call him a "coon".This is the average non-Hispanic American Boxing fan right there. So fucking wishy washy, only able to but into events with some kind of controversy, White and Black.>>89404316He fought at the Foxwood casino in my state just earlier this year, and yes, we do cheer for him.He's about the only notable world level White American anyways, but we all like him. Was pretty disappointed that the Beterbiev fight didn't happen when it was supposed to, i'm rooting for him to go all the way and at least hold a world title.
Literally by the rules of boxing, the count doesn't begin until the opponent is in a neutral corner. Literally in the rule book.
>>89406840Also in the rulebook; if a fighter is not on their feet at 8, you waive it off.
>>89406257>I always wanna do what's best for boxingBased bought refs
>>89406985Sounds like bullshit to me because then it would be an 8 count and not a 10 count.
>>89406802Arturo gatti already got in years ago. Donald Curry was an undisputed champion and Julian Jackson is one of the hardest hitters in the sport. At least they're finally out of the way so votes can maybe go towards the more deserving guys
How is Holyfield the ONLY person to be undisputed at two different weight classes? The fact that those weight classes are cruiserweight and heavyweight makes it even weirder in a wayI know it’s not always guaranteed that you can set up a fight with who you want and there’s a bunch of bullshit and politics but it’s still weird to me that he’s literally the only one who’s done it. He also didn’t win the WBO but that’s because it was brand new and not respected or even acknowledged as legit right away. So that’s one less belt he had to worry about. You’d think it would’ve happened more though before or since then
>>89407053You need to be up and ready to go at 10. Not just up and wobbling everywhere like a baby giraffe. If you don’t have your feet under you by 8 you’re not going to make it
>>89407158>How is Holyfield the ONLY person to be undisputed at two different weight classes?Is he? Even disregarding all of the multi-weight class champions before the titles split into two, and then later three and four, Sugar Ray Leonard during his time at Welterweight held the WBC and WBA (When the IBF was still not legitimized) and then 5 years later held the WBC, WBA, and IBF at Middleweight.
>>89407211I could be wrong but I think so
>>89407158It's not that surprising. There's only like 15-16 undefeated champions in all of boxing history and of those guys you can strike out most because they either retired early, only had few title defenses or fought in the 1800's. That leaves like 5-6 guys give or take that are legit undefeated champions
>ees New Jork ready for me and Mai Bebe dooter Maria?
>>89407285Damn, its about time you made your triumphant return, based dooter poster
>>89407211Leonard never held the WBA or IBF in middleweight
>>89404825adonis sure knows how to handle a woman so he will be alright then
If there was ever an example needed of why belts and undisputed status are totally meaningless it's Terence Crawford becoming undisputed champion by beating Lundy, Postol and Indongo. Literally everyone sees through what a meaningless achievement that is.
Boxing is for losers
>>89407363Oh, you're right.Well there's another good reason why undisputed champions rarely arise, sanctioning bodies do so much bullshit that the stars rarely line up. If the WBA and IBF sanctioned the Hagler-Leonard fight like they should've we would've had him be undisputed champion x2.
>>89404458hes the complete opposite of a chinlet
>>89407412It's more promoter's acomplishment desu
>>89407447Really the biggest reason is that there's not really much point to holding all 4 belts especially nowadays aside from having that achievement on your record. Holding all 4 belts means you have pay more in sanctioning fees and you have less control over your career since you have to satisfy multiple mandatories if they don't line up. That's why crawford immediately dropped them all once he became undisputed. he had an easy shot at getting the belts but most other divisions have at least 1 or 2 top guys that make it more difficult. It's a waste precious career time when you can make better fights in other division as well.
>>89407575Adding onto this, it makes sense that Holyfield is the only 2 time undisputed since he had nowhere else to go but up. Same with Joshua Fury Wilder. They can only face each other
>>89407608I didnt think the knockout was that severe, bums get heavier beatings all the time, was it his age?
>>89407348Not him, I just felt it's been a while lmao>>89407363This, Hagler/Leonard was only for the wbc
>>89407632These clips make me glad I stopped boxing. Scary stuff
>>89407737just dont be a heavyweight going up against a prospect without the ability to keep your guard up
>>89404703If the fight doesn't involve Mayweather, Canelo, Tyson, Holyfield or De La Hoya, Vegas is not paying more than $10m
>>89407608Oof is Canada going to ban boxing now? This is the first time in while that a known champion has been this badly hurt. Stevenson should've retired after the Jack fight.
>>89407778Well I was defiantly light heavy weight to cruiser. What scared me is if I ever was out on my feet like Price or Stevenson
>>89407786Even if you're right which I'm not sure about it doesn't matter if they can't cover a stadium gate on their own, it can't be in the UK and be a successful American PPV so it will be in America and Vegas will pay more than New York or LA this time.
>>89407975Definitely*. Maybe I'm too late and already have CTE haha
>>89408010I guess it depends on some people. Maybe take some solace that Stevenson was 41 and brain injury is much worse when you're past your 30's. he probably had a lot of damage from training in the kronk gym as well
MAMAAAA MIAAAA, DEONTAY WILDER, HAS DONE IT
>>89408236Literally just swap Ranallo with Lampley and Showtime's comms team is perfect.
>https://www.boxingscene.com/khan-maybe-joshua-fear-why-he-face-wilder--134334Joshua confirmed coward
>>89408482>Joshua fans give Fury props for beating Wilder>Wilder fans give Fury props for stepping upTyson playing 4d chess
Broner-Pac Kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWJp7NAa6DI
>>89408858Manny with that dad bod
>>89408858shit fight, hope it bombs
how long they been fightin again?
>>89409023fo hunnid yeeears
>>89408858kino. I think it's a decent matchup, just that neither are at the elite level anymore so it's not really PPV.I think Pacquiao takes it by UD, probably gonna bust AB's face up pretty bad.
>>89406257BasedIs Reiss or crab man the GOAT ref?
Who is the best lb for lb?
>>89406516One of the many things Japan does with boxing, along with replays of knockdowns to confirm them, that hasn't made it to the west for whatever reason
>>89403984black people are the biggest cry babies
>>89406834>He fought at the Foxwood casino in my state just earlier this year, and yes, we do cheer for him.>He's about the only notable world level White American anyways, but we all like him.Caleb plant finna dab on this sudaca next year
>>89409274>black people are the biggest cry babies>You now remember the eternally butthurt wh*toid GGG fanboisIt's like pottery.
>>89409126Looking at the workout videos Pac is still crazy fast. Broner looked pretty good in the Vargas fight but he still didn't let his hands go enough. he easily could've stopped vargas if he threw more. Also PPV doesn't care about skill level. Maymac proved that
Translation: we facilitate the biggest sanctioning fees for ourselvesMaking fun of sanctioning bodies is low hanging fruit but I do enjoy the times where they flat out admit they just make things up as they go along.
>>89403984That counter starts before his back even hit the canvas.
Chris Algieri is BACK!https://www.badlefthook.com/2018/12/1/18121864/chris-algieri-wins-comeback-fight-in-new-york
>>89409692for me, it's skipping #1 and making the #2 challenger mandatory, then letting the champion fuck about said mandatory challenger
>>89409985Not sure what Whyte was expecting tbf, you have to go for the belt your promoter has the relationship with.
>>89409692They should rematch ASAP. Wilder wants it, and Fury won't say no. Delyaing the fight gives Fury more time to prepare. One year was enough for Fury to lose weight. One year from now would be enough to get Fury to his prime.Who would Fury fight until then?
>>89409985Breazeale isn't number #2 he is #4. In WBC rankings Ortiz is #2 and Fury is #3. I don't think skipping over Whyte is even a big deal since he is obviously going for Joshua after beating Parker
>>89403966lmao, why was he banned?
>>89410358p.sure when he was made mando he was #2 although he got there beating Molina about 6 months before who was #6 at the time even though the WBC specified that the winner of that bout would NOT be made mandatoryeven having Ortiz at #2 is corrupt, on paper he was a voluntary defence who got KO'd
>>89409330Plant is a trash SMW who is shook of the uzi. Smith would kill him
>>89410728>even having Ortiz at #2 is corrupt, on paper he was a voluntary defence who got KO'dHe got the WBC Intercontinental heavyweight title after he beat Malik Scott and had the WBA interim. He was also Joshua's mandatory by the WBA so putting him that high isn't a bad decision. Breazeale I don't really know but he's only got 1 fight this year and its on the 22nd. The WBA heavyweight rankings are actually corrupt though. Look at who they have as their #1. Someone nobody's even heard of.
You have to wonder how Stevenson being a vegetable will affect Gvozdyk. I doubt he will be the same.
>>89411209The ref plodding behind Gvozdyk when Stevenson was out on his feet should feel like shit
>>89409150Reiss is about doing the job, and making sure the fight is good. Willis is a straight up fan. And he is right there with them, so best spot in the building. Both based
YOU JUST KNOW
>>89403984a count is not a timer
I wonder if Klitschko now feels a bit better about having lost to Fury?It likely wasn't just a fluke, nor Fury getting in his head, the man is just that good. No shame in losing to a great opponent.I'd imagine Klitschko would be disappointed if Fury had gotten flattened by Wilder from the get-go
Is there a chance?
>>89412188Rocky blasts him away in 1. Screenshot this
What did boxrec mean by this?
>>89412430Based boxrec, think they had Nery top 5 p4p last I checked and those BUMS spence and Mikey not in the top 10.Elite taste.
>>89412049Klitschko knows boxing. I doubt he ever felt that he lost to an average boxer and always knew he lost to a great opponent.
>>89412430Literally how is that even possible? Mundine can't have been that highly rated in boxrec's algorithm even if he's still getting a bump from Pacquiao.
>>89412486It's almost all from Pacquiao, fighting Mudnine just got him added to the middleweight list. The top 10 at middle other than Canelo/GGG just have all been fighting shit opponents so have terrible scores.
who would win, young wlad or tyson fury? I think he could maybe beat him before he turned into manny stewart klitschko
>>89412486It's solely the bump from Pacquiao.
>>89412486He's not. I just checked boxrec and he's rated at 5. Beating Pacquiao and mundine now has given him a ton of points
first and last time ill ever listen to that bold guy from eastenders boxing podcast was listening to their breakdown of the fight and after a few minutes they played 5/6+ year old clip of teddy atlas and claimed he was talking about the fight
>>89410194Hate rematches, hate the buildup, the narratives. Seen them fight, rather see Joshua.
>>89409501>implying Canelo GGG I wasn't one of the worst robberies in the last decadeYou don't need to be this contrarian. I'm okay with Canelo winning the rematch but that first fight undeniably belonged to GGG
I heard that the judges had Adonis as the winner. Im glad he got KTFO
>>89412919literally how was he winning
>>89412188Canelo wins, even when he loses.
take a peek in the world of dirty boxing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QbyCp9vMzU
>>89412931By being home I guess
>>89412931Bro did you SEE how hard his shots were? That HAS to count for something!
>>89412962why the hell is my ip still showing as the UK. its been going on for weeks
>>89412931Same way wilder got a draw
Does GGG from 2013 knock Canelo spark out? Does Canelo return home a broken chalupa? What happens to his baby dooter, Maria?
>>89412892It wasn't even close to one of the worst robberies of 2017 you crybaby, it wasn't even a robbery.
>>89412962Even though this stuff does happen, Charles Farrell isn't a very well known figure. Many well known people in the sport have said they have never heard of him. He also put out this piece saying wilder ortiz was going to be fixed when clearly it was not. His writing is likely full of shit.
>>89413077He'll be a breakfast burrito soon
Okay, this is epic.
>>89413164TBh I think rocky can win, not sure why he's considered such a huge underdog. The height difference alone means a lot in terms of how the fight could play out
>>89413313>not sure why he's considered such a huge underdog.He is a domestic level fighter.
>>89413512Hell KO Canelo mark my words. Easy money.
>>89413309Hopefully joe will get him fucking baked and do a good interview. Fury had him wrapped around his finger at first I think then joe realized he was completely full of shit and the show just kind of petered out
Lads is adonis gonna make it?
>>89413313He's a brit.
>>89413313Watch his last fight against Zeuge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mveMEAZyjnohe sucks at using range despite being the taller man and is wide open for counters. Canelo is going to stop him in under 3 rounds. Quite a mismatch
Wouldn't it be for Fury, if Wilder and Joshua destroy each other and he picks up the pieces?
Lol ODLH's PPV did 30-40k buys. And it went from $50 to $40 to $20.
>>89413309is it humanly possible to listen to deontay talk for 2 hours? guess we'll find out
>>89413313I see it cause of this:>>89413676Callum Smith made him look like a bitch. He is not very good, Canelo is. There is a rehydration clause, so the actual weight difference won't be very significant. This is gonna be kinda like Mikey/Easter, where the tall guy is gonna try to jab until he fucks up and gets knocked down, then ragdolled around for the rest of the fight. Except Canelo hits harder than Mikey and has a 10 times better defense.
>>89414283I didn't even notice that event until today
>>89413077>Does GGG from 2013 knock Canelo spark out?Absolutely. Golovkin was faster and gave even less fucks than he does now and Canelo wasn't as good defensively
>>89414371Wilder's a Christfag like Fury, but he's not as good of a speaker. I hope Joe brings up Fury wanting the rematch to happen in the UK. When Stephen talked to Wilder about the rematch, Stephen tried to make it seem like Fury didn't want the rematch but Wilder disagreed with his assumptions. At the very least, Wilder probably knows that Fury's been scouting for places for their rematch.
Do you have to be a tough guy to like the sport.Asking for a friend
>>89414709No, in fact, the more desensitized you are tp violence the less impactful brutal KO's and punches will be to you. If you are squirmy fights are gonna give you more adrenaline rushes and you will feel fear for the fighters you like.
>>89414487 i think canelo is trying to get some experience fighting someone 6 ft tall. all the middleweight contenders except for GGG are 6 ft.
>>89414709I'm a wuss and I love boxing. Just be respectful to the boxers because they're doing things you wouldn't dream of.
>>89414755I think Canelo likes fighting often for experience to make truck-loads of cash and he wanted a quick money fight after the tough GGG rematch, and getting yet another belt on another division would also be good for his legacy. Easy fight, easy money, easy belt. Ideally he will keep having 1 tough fight 1 easy fight and fight 3 times a year.
>>89414864I will never forgive GGG for not knocking him out. Nobody else will be able to do it and he'll never be allowed to lose on points obviously were stuck with this shitbag until he gets old.
>>89414864>3 times a yearno way. his contract guarantees him what like 30 million a fight? i'll bet he fights lemiuex after this. andrade and charlo are bad news for canelo
>>89415142>andrade and charloboi this better be a shitpost
>>89415053Munguia will end the Canelita meme
>>89415172not at all. charlo and andrade have long fast jabs with fleet feet. charlo is less sure. andrade for sure will beat canelo.
hi, /heem/ hereHow shitty is JDS's boxing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANglrU8u91Y
>>89415312not that you can really tell from highlights but his guard looks shit, not looked at his record but i'd be shocked if he wasn't sparked coming forward at least a few times also his opponents looked absolute gash, do mma fighters not know how to jab and move or what? literally the first thing you get taught in boxing after how to throw properly
>>89415053No one has definitively beaten Alvarez (except maybe GGG 1) and i can't think of a current fighter with a better resume. I'd be very surprised if GGG has anything left after the 2nd fight, it was brutal.
>>89413142I really dig his historical pieces, but you gotta take it all with a grain of salt. Bit of a Victor Conte situation
>>89415519>No one has definitively beaten AlvarezU sure about that buddy? Floyd?
>>89415485Striking is inferior to grappling in MMAThat guy he knocked out at 4m11s fought him two times more and gave him two monumental beatings that changed him forever. He has never been the same after those two beatings
>>89415519>>89415553also Pac's resume is better since he's still active
>>89415605Almost all of the champions in MMA are wrestlers.The current HW and LHW champion is an olympian wrestlerThe best LHW of all time is a wrestlerThe welterweight champion is a wrestlerThe lightweight champion is a wrestlerThe bantamweight champion wrestled in highschoolThe flyweight champion is a wrestler that won gold in the olympicsOnly the middleweight and featherweather champions are more striking based
>>89415553>>89415582I think he meant about active fighters on his weight-class. He holds the middleweight throne and I think he beats the shit out of Andrade who is ass. BJS and Jacobs could give him so trouble, but neither of them could knock him out and he wins by cards always.
>>89415605Guys that look impressive in striking look more like thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp5lBm5RKvkThey usually use kicks, elbows and knees
>>89415669>>89415687let me be more clearI do not give a fuck, you asked how good was this guys boxing, I said not very and you can't tell from a highlights video anywaythen you proceeded to sperg unrelated paragraphs on wrestlingI do not give a fuck
>>89415708>do mma fighters not know how to jab and move or what? literally the first thing you get taught in boxing after how to throw properlyI'm saying these things because of this
>>89415708Is this the jab you want to see?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wM5rUL8A0s(but he is also a wrestler)
>>89415555>Cauliflower ears in the first picYikes
>>89415774>>89415724this is a /box/ threadwe are interested in high level boxingwe don't care about amateur level boxers who are fighting in a sport which doesn't allow them to even box properly because they need to be careful of takedownswhy not post those things and questions in the /heem/ thread? honestly it's not much different than postin KSI or Logan Paul, those guys have a similar level of boxing to your average MMA star
Why is this autistic Brazilian shitting up the thread? Back to your containment thread. If we have any interest in what you're saying we'll come visit you.
https://twitter.com/lukesullivan___/status/1069625919923458049'ate remoaners 'ate Whyte'ate tables'ate decisions love Hayelove laxatives love brexit love big rightssimple as
>that insecure hue that gets autistic about MMA vs boxing and doesn't realise we don't give a shit
>>89415669wrestlers get kicked in the head in street fights. Why doesn't your meme sport allow kicking people on the ground
>>89403984I'm just happy that, however indirectly, you're admitting Spaniards are shitskins, like the Portuguese.
>>89415991I don't want you to give a shit. I'm not the one getting hostile over it.I just asked a question about a fighter's boxing and then replied to the reply.>>89416012The UFC doesn't allow it but PRIDE (in japan) did. I think there is another event in japan that allows ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6vUlAVW1jEBack in the day even headbutts were allowed.
>>89416054>I just asked a question about a fighter's boxing and then replied to the replyOh wow and it coincidentally divulged into a discussion about wrestling vs boxing, just like how the exact same thing happened the other 10 times you've done this shit. Get a life.
>>89416099>wrestling vs boxingActually wrestling vs any type of striking. I don't hate Boxing, dude.
>>89416054Well the UFC should add it and accept it is just bumfights live
>>89416165They're not bums. Many great grapplers are in it. Flyweight champion literally won gold in the olympics. If that's a bum I don't know who is good.
thread has been officially shitted up
>>89416405Time to save it with some /box/ related pics
What would happen if Loma fought Castillo or Corrales?
>>89416405>>89416448Ok, a boxing related question. Genuine question:Why doesn't boxing allow spinning punches?
January 26th Munguia is fighting Takeshi Inoue
>>89416501It's a type of backhand, which was made illegal in the bareknuckle days because it caused cuts. Fighters still try to backhand sometimes, especially with the jab
>>89416501/ournip/ will do it against Money "Floyd" Mayweather once he's in his legendary "Pretty Boi Floyd" mode that he uses against unorthodox fighters. He'll make it seem like he's about to kick (making Money say "WTF,") but he'll then hit Money's jaw so hard that he'll be bleeding 50 cent coins. This chinaman ain't no Tiajuana Uber driver... Money's about to get some work! Look at this nigga... he's a fucking super saiyan, so don't tell me Money's ducking GGG when he about to fight Goku.
>>89415681This is exactly What I was saying. None of these guys are gonna be able to KO him except MAYBE danny if he fights out of his mind
>>89416501you aren't allowed to strike with any part other than the knuckle of the gloveif you tried one anyway you'd get sparked because it's a fucking retarded punch
>>89416596should be good, cousin of Naoya I believe
>>89405011>I am legitimately betting 1000 $ Nur Kanacken wetten.>Easy moneyBanter beiseite, du bist unterentwickelt.
>>89416656You realize this fight isn't happening right?
>>89416715It's fucking happening in the country of Tokyo. Tenshin finna bout be the first man to break the rules and kick Money.
>>89416701No there's no relation. This inoue is a japanese domestic fighter.
>>89416815oh shit, there's too many Inoue's. I follow the brothers on instagram, thought I saw him training with them
>>89405011I think it will be an easy KO for Fury next time Wilder was exposed and Fury will be 50% better
>>89416778>kick Mayweather>gets banned from fighting in the US >even though he never plans to fight in the US>probably a fine as well>but he becomes a superstar and earns more in the long run with his new fame
I'm reading about old boxers and it's interesting how their stance looked so different back in the day. Almost karate like
>>89415519 Canelo is actually 47-4-1.
>>89417052In this pic is he pushing his dick up into the wasteband?
>tfw won't spend New Year's Eve watching Floyd put on another clinic along with the usual Money Team antics
>>89416969I mean, he is a small 122 pound 20 year old. What if he kicks, fails and Mayweathers knocks him out? Or if he simply kicks and misses and get's DQ'ed dishonorably in a shamefur dispray? Pretty awkward.
>>89417099Stay salty lil' G fans.
>>89417348I'm not a "lil' G fan".
So.. I think this is the best boxer we've ever had. Is he known at all?>WBO and WBA (Super) super featherweight champion>two-time WBO lightweight champion. I don't understand why boxing is so poor here 2bh
>>89404307It is just Wilder, Fury has been nothing but complimentary while Wilder is making excuses because he knows he lost.
Do you guys reckon Wilder is one of biggest punchers in boxing history? I actually think he is.
>>89417477Eder JofreFreitas was in some fun fights but I doubt many people know him unless they saw him fight live. I guess everybody's playing soccer, you would think a country filled with poverty & a bazillion people would be churning out boxers left and right
>>89417774Unironically yes, but he is still a bum. Fury won that fight, and Joshua knocks him out quicker than he knocked out Dillon Whyte
>>89416656>>89416715>>89416778>Floyd and Tenshin
>>89417867WE FINNA NU MALES TO THIS DAY>TO THlS DAY
>>89417774Wlad and Vitali both hit harder
>>89403989This was a bad day for me to try and stop being racist.
>>89417896false on both accounts
>>89417889Imagine the smell?
>>89417847It's not because everybody is playing soccer though. When it comes to fighting people are doing BJJ, Judo, Muay Thai, MMA...
>>89417913There's a video on yt of Chris Arreola who fought both Vitali and Wilder where he says exactly this. I reckon he'd known better than you hackmed.
>>89416498Castillo Salido's Loma but Loma schools Corrales
>>89417922can you get a trip please, for the good of the boardthanks
>>89417913100% chance Wlad hits harder
>>89417998Are you retarded and can't follow a conversation? Do you only see things post by post or something? I'm talking about boxing, you retard. I'm not comparing arts. I'm saying that people here don't do much boxing that's why we aren't churning out boxers.
>>89417943>>89418013can we just ban these fucking beaner americans from /sp/ already?
>>89417896Yeah, I'm gonna have to doubt that mate. No hard feelings.
>>89417896>>89418013Wait, does that mean that Wilder is technically more skilled than Klitschko?Because Wilder dropped Fury. Twice. Klitschko didn't drop him once. That either means Wilder has more power... or he's the better technician.You don't need to answer that, the answer is obvious, Wilder is not a more technically skilled fighter, he just hits REALLY hard.He only landed like 11 more power punches than Klit too.This isn't even le triangle theory, i'm not saying Wilder beats Klitschko, just that he obviously has more power than Klitschko.Wilder is the one with a 95% KO rate, Wilder is the one who seems to be able to KO or at least knock down any fighter in any round of the fight, Wilder is the one who excites crowds with spectacular knockouts whilst Klit often bored them to tears.
>>89418126Differnce is Fury embarrassed Wilder and made him miss punches all night, and this is Fury after being out of the ring for 2 years, being severely depressed, losing 10 stone and being coked out and drunk during his time out. And fury was making Wilder look like the bum he is, the Fury that fought Klitschko EMBARRASES Wilder
>>89418126No, it means Wilder has fought exactly 2 non bums his entire careerhe went life and death with a 50 year old Cuban and lost to Fury quite easilyWilder is complete garbage and honestly and embarrassment to boxing
>>89418092not really that outrageous a claim desuif you got all heavies to wing their punches in like wilder does I reckon you'd find alot of the big boys hit the same or harderdifference is, they have an IQ larger than a single digit so they try to string their punches together allowing them to win rounds on a consistent basis and not losing every round they don't knock their opponents down in
>>89418154I agree with everything but the last things you said, Wilder looked like a fucking fool during the Fury fight, especially in the later rounds when he tried to string together combinations but Fury slipped them all.But Fury cant get anymore fit than he already is. The shape he's in is the same shape he was in during the Klitschko fight, the same Fury that beat Klitschko would likely get hurt by Wilder, especially if he got touched up like he sometimes did against Klitschko.>>89418180Nice job not disputing what I said.
>>89418197Fury was 100% in better shape for the klit fight, you can see he's carrying a lot less muscle on his shoulders and a lot more fat round his stomach
>>89418197your points are beyond retarded
>>89418126Wlad was also at the tail end of his career and fucking bored. Put a 33 year old Wlad in there and make the comparison. Fury would've lost to a prime Wlad.
>>89418197I am not responding to you anymore, your statements confirm for me you are clueless about boxing. The shape he is in is not the issue, the issue is he was fucking retired for two years and his body had to lose 10 stone to get to that shape, he was severely depressed and was not boxing during his time off and his internal organs are probably destroyed. Plus alcohol and cocaine fucks with your stamina. Anyway not carrying this on the fact that you think the Fury that fought Wilder is the same as the one that fought klitschko shows me you are really, really dumb
>>89418235>>89418246>>89418255>he da older derefor he wurse dan he wuz b4Kek, neck yourself retards.
>>89418278What are you trying to prove? You can post those Webms all night but the fact is Fury won that fight, its universally recognised by non spastics like you, no matter how much you shill for Wilder he will not fuck your mother while you jerk off in the corner you cuck
>>89418327>but the fact is Fury won that fight, its universally recognised>Got knocked down twice>WonYou're a comedian.
>>89418420>imagine having all of these images and webms savedJust imagine how much this anons jerks off to black cuck porn, embarrasingAnyway cuck I have gave you too much attention already, everyone has already agreed Fury won, just because you walked in on a black guy fucking your mum as a kid does not mean you can ignore boxing rules to make your favourite black bull win.
>>89418452>Just imagine how much this anons jerks off to black cuck porn, embarrasing>Implying i'm a weak little wh*teboiYou got the game fucked up, anon.
Can you recommend me a fight where there's a reach disparity like Tua vs Lennox Lewis and the guy with the shorter reach wins. Also the guy with the long reach must not be a bum.
>>89418469remember when chris was on louis theroux's documentary and louis accused him of swearing and he was so defensive you'd think louis called him a pedophile kekabsolute madlad
>>89418420floyd thought wilder won tho
>>89418493How big of a reach disparity we talking here?There's Leonard-Duran 1, where there's apparently an 8 inch reach disparity between them, but Duran still managed a win.
>>89418555I've seen that one but wasn't Holmes old as dirt or something?
>>89418571Hagler Hearns Haye Valuev then, idk I thought you were a manlet looking to see big people btfo so you could get vicarious enjoyment
>>89418488Your ancestors were my ancestors slaves,I am saying this sincerely, I would legit consider suicide if I was black. You are dumb, disenfranchised and borderline monster looking with your gross skin. I could go on a long rant about how much it would suck to be a black man but I do not want to make you feel bad, but god damn I feel for you bro. You got dealt a bad hand in life.
>>89418673First, I don't have slave ancestors you illiterate swine. Not your fault though, all wh*toids are born with dismal mental capacities.Second, even if I were descended from slaves in America, you're British, which didn't participate in the slave trade to nearly the extent of America.Stay mad wh*teboi, this is a BLACK sport.
>>89418493One of my faveshttps://youtu.be/Y3zqrxZOpVY
>>89418825I am actually being serious all banter aside, do you hate being black? You look like legit monsters, with like dirty black skin, fucked up faces just disgusting when it comes to physical appearance. Then there is the having no culture or legacy, being borderline mongoloids with horrible IQs the list is endless.
>>89418825>being this retardedYep you being black makes sense
>>89418924What banter wh*toid?I've been deadass with you since the beginning, you're inferior.
>>89417052That's because it took a while for the sport to adjust to the gloved era. The rules were different and body shots were a bigger focus since you could break your hands punching to the head. Old boxers were almost like fencers in the way they fought
>>89418673>>89418924What about you? You're talking like you're some sort of superior being while blacks are inferior and yet there many successful blacks despite all obstacles and racism out there while you're here talking to someone from the third world and a guy that you're calling inferior at this time of the day.>culturejazz, blues, legacy in sports which is part of popular culture which they have strong success in the sport you're talking about right nowYou say they're ugly but do you think women would prefer you or an Idris Elba or even for example Joshua?
>>89419117>getting baited by counter baityou seriously haven't made a decent post this whole thread, get a trip
>>89419170Why don't you just go to reddit where you can upvote posts and people have accounts since you want to rate posts so much?
>>89419117Isn't it cold in britain? Why do some many brits pop their shirts off?
>>89419360why don't you get a trip so we can filter younot interested in rating your post, just wish you would fuck off so I don't have to read ~20 posts on wrestling or a paragraph responding to bait
>>89419562I posted about wrestling 4 hours ago. I'm not putting a gun to your head and forcing you to pay attention to my posts. This isn't your board. You're not special. I don't give a shit about how you feel.
>>89418493Duran vs BarkleyMartinez vs Williams 2
>when casual fans watch a technical boxing fight
Wilder is honestly one of the dumbest chimps if ever seen. Literal 0.5 IQ. His Instagram video of the count is not only embarrassing because he doesn't even start the count at the correct time but mainly the fact he's still going on about it when fury has already moved on and has congratulated wilder many times for a good fight meanwhile wilder is still trying to beef fury with BS like this. What a terrible person and sportsman.
>>89420060Now the tax man is going to ask where it all came from.
>>89410542Muh imaginary vpn/proxy
>>89415553>>89415582Duly corrected. Possibly one of Mayweathers best wins but i have a slight asterisk next to it as Alvarez was badly weight-drained at 152lbs
Pac vs cotto/dlh
>>89418825Conspiracy theory: did Vitali tell Wlad to go easy after knocking down Joshua so that his little brother wouldn't have a better win or legacy?
>>89420319Hes desperate for the rematch, hope Fury doesnt take it and tells the nigger to fuck off
>>89420319Saw a clip of JRE (don't judge) where old Joe says its legit and Wilder is right.
Wilder is the only boxer whose punches get more textbook and accurate when he gasses
>>89420457>jreTruly, a fountain of boxing wisdom
>>89420483Yeah I definitely don't agree with him but just saying retards believe things.
>>89404822Whyte stops chisora, Whyte has gotten better, Chisora is the same if not gotten worse and if he tries his rope-a-dope tactic again he won't get past round 6
>>89420398Blacks have like their own special language or some shit goddamn.
Khan DESTROYS canelo in the rematch
>>89420545It'd be nice if they had their own country and only lived there
>>89420442Lmao or what? What the fuck else is fury going to do?The rematch brings him millions. I swear you knobgobblers are more upset about the fight than fury is.
>>89420545Why are you speaking the language of the oppressor? Ní thuigim
>>89420565Is é coileach mór na Breataine a chónaíonn a chuid masa
>I am actually being serious all banter aside, do you hate being black? You look like legit monsters, with like dirty black skin, fucked up faces just disgusting when it comes to physical appearance. Then there is the having no culture or legacy, being borderline mongoloids with horrible IQs the list is endless.
>>89420596>Then there is the having no culture or legacy, Brits all want to pretend to be black american gangsters and dress up in their clothes. Even africans like AJ
>>89420614Black Brits do, wiggers here think they're Jamaican
>>89418126fury was blowing his nose. He would have ducked earlier and missed the punch had he not been doing that.
>>89420614nobody wears fubu
>>89420682>>89420705Uh oh the retard austrailian is posting again. This thread just dropped a few IQ points already
You faggots keep talking about Fury/Wilder like either of them looked good in the fight. They're both EASY WORK for The Champ™
>>89420725Let's Go Gramp
>>89420720> people wear fubu
>>89420457DUDE WEED LMAOI WAS TAKING A GNARLY DAB OFF MY WAX PIPE (EVERY DAB TAKES ME AT LEAST 15 SECONDS) AND WHEN I LOOKED UP FURY WAS STILL ON THE CANVAS
>>89404420Started boxing lateHad a great career despite of going late into boxingWas fun to watchBeat jermain taylor/glen johnson/kessler/abrahamLost only 2 times in a career of 10+ yearsAvenged 1 lossOnly true loss was against a guy who is p4p one of the best.
>>89404458dude he was never knocked out...
>>89420758Fuck you Fubu was the shit. It'll come back
>>89420813Cheating scumbag https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=42&v=COlZGhG5
>>89416965Disappointed he didn't go for it in the 10th when Wilder was gassed out his arse desuI know he was up 8 rounds and all but that was Wlad-tier, everyone and their mum knows boxing judges are bent as a two bob note, should have put him down
>>89420828>>89420828Fixed link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COlZGhG5B5Q
>>89415952Truly /ourguy/Can't wait until he ends the Whyte and AJ memes and they make Fury/Chisora 3 for all the belts
>>89420813>Started boxing latePretty sure thats wrong
>>89420841How will it be for all the belts when Andre Ward will come back to school Joshua in front of 100k people in wembley?
>>89409274When did Raven get so hot?
>>89420926>inb4 punished GGG knocks out Andre 'Son of Judges' Ward at wembley infront of 80k screaming frochomaniacs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzobxCNt5EgAbsolutely incredible, Eddie had managed to find an even bigger lying hypocritical self serving snake than himself to be interviewed by. A herculean task.
Why the fuck was that Jake Paul kid in Luis Ortiz's corner last week?
>>89420865It is wrong. He was boxing at an early age, but only started taking it seriously at 19. People seem to miscontrue this as he first put on a pair of gloves at 19.
>>89421079Will not be watching this
>>89420823Lol I used to wear that shit. What the fuck was I thinking?
>>89420547Khan is unironically going to beat Crawford
is there a benefit in training your grip strength for boxing?
>>89421179>Luis Ortiz>beloved daughter is a Jake Paul fan>through her you learn about Jake Paul vs KSI>see Shannon Briggs promote the fight and decides to watch it>fight happens>can clearly tell that Jake Paul won and KSI is THAT bad>beloved daughter asks if the fight was really a draw>"No, jaeck pool es weinner."And it all went up from there. Still hyped for Ortiz vs Joyce. Aside from Fury vs Wilder II, that's gonna be a kino fight.
>>89421387Yes. Purely for the fact it strengthens your hands and wrists. I do towel pull ups and wrist curls for this.
>>89421414Lol, nice summary. Me too mate, that fight will be quality. Who do you have winning?
>>89421422are these couch potato hand trainers any good?
>>89421462Like captains of crush grippers? They are ok, but towel pull ups are better.
>>89421462If you get some COC grippers make sure you try them in store to find the right one first.
>>89421475thanks for the towel grip recommendation mate, didn't know these exist and I can actually do these at home unlike normal pullups
>>89421079no idea about politics or anything, but he sincerely fucked me off with his interjecting in this, annoying as fuck
>>89421444If the fight goes up to rounds 8-12, then I think Joyce stands a chance of winning. However, Ortiz has what it takes to end the fight early, and it all depends on how strong Joyce's chin versus a hard puncher like Ortiz. It will be tested during this fight because Ortiz has what it takes to land a strong blow. Like Fury vs Wilder I, it's a fight that's 50/50.
>>89421672Why does boxing have some many insane personalities compared to every other sport? Do other sports have guys as nuts as Mayorga and Broner who give zero fucks about winning? It's surprising that there isn't a reality show about these guys.
>>89421697Meant for >>89421649
>>89421566You're welcome mate. I feel they have really aided me in keeping my hands and wrists strong. I'm surprised more boxers don't do them.
>>89421194Yeah in Jake Woods podcast Froch said he started at around 11 enjoyed it then moved at 16 and the gym he went when he moved to was full of travellers and that put him off going Essentially became a s oyboy till 19 and was in college and smoking weedHis words
>>89421672I agree, it's pretty much a 50/50 fight at this point. Joyce was in there with some world class fighters in the amateurs, so he should be ok with the step up. Obviously, Usyk schooled him though. This is also the reason I'm picking Usyk to beat Joshua if that fight is made. I believe Usyk has an easy time with bigger opponents due to his footwork and speed. Joshua fights in a straight line, Usyk uses lateral movement to create angles which will be a nightmare for Joshua.
>>89421672Joyce isn't that good but he's a lump, don't think Ortiz will stop him
>>89420319Yeah it really sucks. Like I get saying “I think I won” or whatever but he seems to really be milking it and trying to pin it on race. Just move on, it’s fucking embarrassing. If there is a rematch I’d be rooting for Fury 100% I rooted for Wilder the first time but fuck him
>>89404160I’m a Brit and I’d love to see wilder KO media trained puppet ‘stay humble’ AJ. Fury #1 though
>>89421797Joyce was 210lbs back then reminder
>>89421905Joyce isn't good enough as a boxer, he's a come forward fighter who boxes like a robot but he's tall and strong
Where will Joyce vs Ortiz even be? Is Haymon going to start doing cards in the UK? Seems too big to be on an undercard honestly. It's a very similar level of fighter to Whyte vs Parker.
>>89422043think I remember reading that Haymon wants to break into the UK market a while agonot sure if this is it mind, it will bomb in the UKactually it will bomb anywhere, really Joyce should've signed with Hearn
>>89422043In the US probably. He's doing Eubank vs DeGale but generally it will be hard to do UK shows because there's no real money outside of Sky and BT
>>89422065Matchroom didn't want him. He doesn't really fit in with their plans at all.
>>89422043It won't be in the UK. It'll be used to prop up one of the weaker PPVs. Possibly Spence Garcia.
>>89422071It's fair enough, Frank has no heavies he'll match Joyce with and Hearn is a very good promoter as evidenced by Bellend having three very successful ppvs in two years
>>89420725browne, haye, oquendo,the first two when people still thought they had something left in them.how good a run would it have been, and where would he rank?
>>89421069I prefer Cobraholics
>>89420829I think Freddie Roach said the same thing right after the fight. He thought Fury could have KO'd him if he went for it in the later rounds and was annoyed the corner was telling him to chill and stick to boxing.
>>89420457Wilder's BS video looks right if you just see it and don't think too much. It starts the count when the punch lands, when the official count is supposed to start when the ref signals a knockdown, which is like a second after the vid starts the count. Regardless, this dude is reduced to arguing (badly) over a half second. The count in boxing is a human being's count anyway. Not a stopwatch. It wouldn't even matter if the count was over by a half second according to a stopwatch. The only count that matters is the ref's count.