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>News reports that Elon Musk built Falcon Heavy all by himself, "singlehandedly revolutionising space travel"
>"Yay! Go Elon!"
>News reports that a woman took a picture of a black hole
>"REEEEEEEE IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT! REEEEEEEE THERE WERE HUNDREDS INVOLVED! REEEEEE SHE DID NOTHING!"
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>>10554222
awww, a jealous seething snowflake
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>>10554222
That's because Elon Musk is a meme.
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>>10554222
>Elon spends billions on his own company
>Elon started the company from scratch
vs
>Women adds few lines of "code of conduct"
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>>10554245
*misrepresents what she did*
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>>10554245
>Elon spends billions of daddy's investments
vs
>Woman worked hard to rise from the bottom and contributed to something.
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>>10554222
thats the thing, with all the sort of pop marketing, theres that ominous silence of truth which is largely a white/asian male team that gets things done
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You all know that all science is a team effort but you only like to point it out when it's a scientist you don't like such as a Jew or a woman.
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>>10554259
They are pointing out that it's not just whites and Asians in science.
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>>10554222
jokes on you, musk is hack and so is that girl
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>>10554222
>Funding the entire operation Vs doing nothing at all
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>>10554222
>The CEO, owner, and leader of the company
>some nobody in a minor role who's algorithm wasn't even used
Yaas queen slay
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>>10555410
>all hail the CEO!
yess goy, worship your overlords
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>>10555418
I'm not saying he did it himself, but the owner and leader always gets the credit and the blame of everything the company does right or wrong. It's like being the quarterback. But the woman was a literal who who only got acclaim because vagina.
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>>10554222
All the other people in the team effort of my math thing died before I was born so I kind of did a lot of it by myself, except all the teachers and fellow students and 4chan people who engaged me in useful discussions. They are on the team too.
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>>10554245
irrelevant

in the context OP is discussing, elon is being celebrated for "single-handed inventions" that he didn't do singlehandedly. bringing up something he did (relatively) single handedly is obviously outside the domain of OPs criticsm
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>>10555440
And in Elon's case he actually plays a large role in design decisions, which is more than can be said about most CEOs.
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>>10555503
Elon Musk is like Genghis Khan, he started a company and managed his visions.

THe girl in OP is like a senator in the US who voted for some xyz bill. She didn't introduce the bill, nor was did the bill contain any important changes that she contributes, she merely changed the spacings on which the words were typed or the fonts that was used then added her signature. Then far-left media took this information and asked us to believe she's the sole person responsible for the creation of the bill.
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>>10554222
Daily fucking reminder
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Daily reminder that the incel attack against her is nothing but painfully retracted ballhurt.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thisgreyspirit/status/1116519313488470017
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>>10555991
Or maybe people are tired of being lied to
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>>10555991

Wtf is this shit?
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>>10555991
>unironical white knights on 4chin
>mfw
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>>10554222
>>News reports that Elon Musk built Falcon Heavy all by himself, "singlehandedly revolutionising space travel"
>>"Yay! Go Elon!"


Except the same people who think Musk is a genius physicist & inventor are the same retards who think (1) woman produced the first photo of a black hole.
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>>10555923
Its missing the so yboy version
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I feel sorry for Katie desu
She only did what everyone else does when they make a minor contribution to a massive, well known project: bullshit to her friends on social media about how her contribution pulled it all together like "Yeah, I wrote some code that pretty much generated this image of a black hole. No big deal ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

Her only crime was being a slightly above average looking woman, which meant the creepy fucking comp sci students and loser journalists went crazy over her and heralding her as a cool millennial go getter, grrrl in STEM, superwoman whatever

It would have been awkward for everyone involved. And she probably know that she is only getting attention or her looks. She posted this picture on her facebook. Look at all the other women there.


It doesn't matter how much you believe in diversity, and celebrating all women everywhere or what ever. If you owned a trendy news and feminism blog aimed at cosmopolitan millennials, there is no way in seven heavens that you would make any of this old crows or frumpy asian women the "face" of women in STEM
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>>10554245
This. Elon played a crucial role in SpaceX and while it is a team effort, there would simply be no cheap reusable rockets without Elon.

On the other hand, there would be a black hole picture even without that woman. She is a good scientist and all that but just not that important in the big picture. She is being pushed to the forefront for political reasons.
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Will mods ever do their job?
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>>10554222
Is this your second time on /sci/ you baiting retard? Not a week goes by here without a "Elon Musk is a fraud and a hack" thread. The people who are idolising Elon and comparing him to Iron Man are more likely to be the people who buy the bullshit story about how a world-wide project with a dozen universities and hundreds of people involved was lead and pivoted by a CompSci grad student
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>>10556255
>unironic newfags who want to be edgemcedge because they read old /b/ was like that on ED
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>>10555991
why would people even watch these cringy video
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>>10556416
>other women exist
>katie gets all the attention by being slightly above average looking
typical
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>>10557206
Old /b/ was much more ruthless. They used to spam CP and gore to keep fags like the both off you bickering children off
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>>10556714
She isn't credited for the picture because of her commits to that GitHub, she is credited because of this technique she primarily developed and the resulting paper.

https://www.cv-foundation.org/openaccess/content_cvpr_2016/html/Bouman_Computational_Imaging_for_CVPR_2016_paper.html

The algorithm she made that all the articles are talking about is CHIRP which is what that paper is about, and it was what was ultimately used in generating the image that was published.

The problem everyone has with her is all because reporters all suck at reporting on news now to the point where if you don't do the research yourself, you're not going to have any idea about what actually happened.
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>>10554252
>Elon
>Daddy
He was a autist that made paypal
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>>10556450
>there would simply be no cheap reusable rockets without Elon.
First of all there are still no cheap reusable rockets, it's still a meme technology. Second of all he didn't invent shit, the tech was around for decades, he just tried to commercialise it. Finally other billionaire like Bezos will get around to doing it as well eventually.
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>>10559438
>The problem everyone has with her is all because reporters all suck at reporting on news
This isn't her fault though.
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>>10559848
Self landing orbital boosters existed before SpaceX? Where?
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Elon musk is a scammer operating in the us because only that shithole wouldn't arrest someone as obvious as him.

If it were my country he would have gotten used to prison already.
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>>10560135
I think Elon is preddy cool.
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>>10560131
They didn't "exists" outside of paper because all engineers and scientists know it's useless gimmick meant for PR.

Spacex directly copied the Soviet Buran and its liquid rockets meant to be reused the kerosene engines too.

If you weren't that ignorant you wouldn't be eating up lies meant for investors.
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>>10560142
>Spacex directly copied the Soviet Buran
Wut. SpaceX made space shuttle? Source?

>useless gimmick meant for PR.
lol. Useless why?
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>>10560149

He means the lifter.
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>>10560155
Doesn't look very similar to me. And SpaceX seems to be eating Russians lunch lately with the cost they can produce rockets at now.

Ideas are easy. Execution is hard.
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>>10560149

You are so ignorant it hurts.
Soviet Buran was launched on the Energiya rocket that had advanced boosters meant to land unlike american shuttle which used icbm solid rockets and fuel tank attached on the outside.

>useless why?

Because there is no point in landing rockets.
Repairing rocket that was used once and "landed" is harder and more expensive than building new one.
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>>10557219
Honestly, for the same reason people post here: boredom
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>>10560173
>meant to land
lol. but didn't right?

>Repairing rocket that was used once and "landed" is harder and more expensive than building new one.
Says who? SpaceX about to go bankrupt any day now right?
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>>10560161

The engines are what matters.
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>>10560177
indeed
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>>10560173
>Repairing rocket that was used once and "landed" is harder and more expensive than building new one.

Dumbest thing I ever read, congratulations for the honor.
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>>10560183
I mean technically he can be right. I believe it was more or less true for the Shuttle boosters due to sea water related damage. But he's dumb as fuck for thinking it *has* to be true.
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>>10560183
>>10560190

He is indeed correct in the case of the Shuttle and Buran. It wasn't as good as we thought it would be. However, thanks to it, we could figure out what components breaks down a rocket for future reusable projects.
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>>10560177
America is even buying those engines and will use them on the rocket that will send astronauts to the space station.
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>>10560195
true. I just wish NASA spent less than $1,000,000,000,000 learning that.
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>>10560183
That's why all the spacex competitors are rushing to land boosters and save some money.
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>>10560177

I find the story of the Russian rockets so bizarre. It was very much an abandoned Soviet Super-Science project abandoned in a forgotten warehouse for multiple decades, only to be rediscovered in modern times.
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>>10560205
I'm not sure if your being sarcastic or not. This is exactly the case.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/02/europe-unveils-design-of-reusable-rocket-that-looks-a-lot-like-a-falcon-9/
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>>10560209
This has no budget and the only reason Arianespace is doing this is because some ignorant politicians are pressuring them to do the same thing SpaceX is doing.
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>>10560233
Interesting theory. Or maybe SpaceX really is producing cheaper flights to space with their rockets and other space programs really are trying to copy them. That would also explain why Elons "scam" company is selling flights to space below the cost of what's on offer from the competition has has not gone bankrupt.

Or maybe your conspiracy theory is right? Who can say..
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>>10560233
Nope, if it was just due to politicians then they would pressure Arianespace into exact opposite in order to siphon off more taxpayer money. And there would be fat budget.

Small budget, reusability and use of methalox has all the hallmarks of a grassroots engineering initiative.
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>>10560248
Arianespace is getting more freely avaible missions on their expendable rockets than SpaceX does so your theory is wrong.
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>>10560252
Lol. How does that prove my theory wrong?
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>>10560252
No, most Ariane launches are either from European governments or a handful of dual launch geostationary sats (where the price is cut in half, a special advantage of Ariane). Other than that, Ariane is dead in a commercial market.
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>>10560250
The French Government accountability office (not a single rocket engineer works there) literally said they need to be like SpaceX, and then they released some CGIs from landing rockets.
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>>10560257
This is complete BS. Arianespace almost gets no government launches, which is why their CEO constantly complains that SpaceX has an unfair advantage.
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>>10560258
Every space program in the world is saying the same thing at the moment. If you haven't noticed SpaceX is eating the commercial launch market alive.
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>>10560258
Themis and Callisto are brainchildren of rocket engineers from CNES and Ariane, has nothing to do with French GAO.
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>>10560173
Also it severely limits payload.
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>>10560268
Space programs that are run by politicians. In five years when SpaceX is bankrupt and everybody realizes again that reusability is a meme all these projects will get canned.
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>>10554222
difference is that elon musk was the boss or team leader while the woman was a junior member and not the team leader or the boss of the project.
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>>10560282
It does not limit payload at all because you can always choose to expend the booster. However, vast majority of payloads are nowhere close to maximum capacity of a rocket, and from the point of view of payload capacity, reuse is basically free.
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>>10560282
Doesn't really matter so long as the $ per kg to LEO is lower. Supposing of course the allowed payload isn't tiny. The Falcon9 in reusable configuration certainly seems to have plenty of space for most purposes.
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>>10554250
You're right.

She actually did much less than what Anon said.
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>>10560268
>SpaceX is eating the commercial launch market alive
Not much competition.
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>>10560285
Why would it take so long for the to go bankrupt?

Supposing they are losing money on every launch as is supposed by my nay-sayers.. they should go bankrupt in about -5 years.
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>>10560285
All space programs are run by politicians, with the possible exception of SpaceX and Blue Origin, and those two are leaders in reusability.
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>>10560296
They are spending all their money on Starship, a rocket that will have no missions because cheap reusability won't work, so it will bankrupt them.
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>>10560304
Why do they have any money at all? They should have lost all their investment capital years and years ago due to selling launches far cheaper than they can supposedly actually do them for. Especially with all the money that the re-landing must cost considering, which apparently makes them cost more than traditional launches according to some.

Why didn't F9 bankrupt them? Why didn't F9 heavy? And all the continuous improvements they made over the years? Do they have a magic money tree?
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>>10560287
The CEO doesn't do shit, even the COO does more and that is actually a woman.
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>>10560316
You are Mr Strawman Argument. SpaceX is expensive, which is why Arianespace is getting more commercial launches. What is keeping them alive is tax payer money, but US government already said they don't care for Starship.
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>>10560316
>Why didn't F9 bankrupt them? Why didn't F9 heavy?
SpaceX is funded by the U.S government.
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>>10560324
>The CEO doesn't do shit

Founder and the highest person in the company does not do shit? You are retarded.
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Your logical fallacy is tu quoque
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/tu-quoque
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>>10560326
>SpaceX is expensive, which is why Arianespace is getting more commercial launches.
Source? I've consistently heard the exact opposite.

>What is keeping them alive is tax payer money
But the US pays SpaceX less for launch than they had to pay anyone else before. How are SpaceX cheaper?
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>>10560331
They only pay for launches. Which are cheaper than all other operators. So if this was the only money SpaceX got they'd be losing money on every launch if they were as bad as some are suggesting.
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>>10560326
Arianespace is not getting more commercial launches than SpaceX. Again, the only thing Arianespace is getting is European government launches and some dual launch geostationary launches (which is a limited and diminishing industry). You can count the rest of Ariane launches on one hand.

As for taxpayer money, ALL launch providers receive it. SpaceX has some of the lowest taxpayer subsidies (direct or indirect) when compared to their launch numbers.
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>>10560350
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ariane_launches_(2010–2019)

Almost all Commercial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Falcon_9_and_Falcon_Heavy_launches#Future_launches

Almost all public
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>>10559438
Her algorithm was not used
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> >News reports that Elon Musk built Falcon Heavy all by himself, "singlehandedly revolutionising space travel"
> >"Yay! Go Elon!"
> >News reports that a woman took a picture of a black hole
>>"REEEEEEEE IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT! REEEEEEEE THERE WERE HUNDREDS INVOLVED! REEEEEE SHE DID NOTHING!"

In both cases it was a team effort, but indeed there is a bias against women rooted in gender stereotypes that expresses itself emotionally.

The funny thing, though... you didn't mention her name.

What's her name?
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Her name is Dr. Katie Bouman.

She earned her masters and doctorate in computer science from MIT.

She is in her early 30s.
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>>10554230
except you know he's right
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>>10560173
EXPENDABLE ROCKETS UBER ALLES
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>>10560304
If you turn out to be wrong, will you return to sci and write a poem dedicated to elons balls?
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>>10560369
He has a point, but the reason the usa buys spacex launches is theyre cheap and were supportibg a usa company.
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>>10557219
Literal toddlers watch them



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