ITT: discuss engineering, engineering careers, and whatever engineering projects you're working on___>Should I go into engineering?Well, it depends on what reasons you have for considering an engineering subfield.GOOD reasons:>I am looking for a challenge>I already have lots of connections to industry>I have a good support network that will help me during school/while finding a jobBAD reasons:>I have delusions about becoming the next Elon Musk ("I want to change the world!")>I want a high paying job>I want a low stress work environment___>How do I get into R&D?Generally speaking, you will need at least a master's degree if you want to do actual engineering. Though tread carefully: you can just as easily educate yourself out of a job by becoming overqualified. Make sure you have appropriate industry connections and experience before pursuing grad school.___>My GPA is below a 3.5 and I'm going to graduate without having had multiple internships, what should I do?It is in your long term best interests to switch majors ASAP if you want to get a job, and the longer you put this off the worse it will get. Although this may feel like failure, consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openings, and you will find greener pastures elsewhere.___>X major is best because Y!>X majors can work Z jobs because people who study Z are dumb!>Studying X is going to make me rich!>All people who don't study X are stupid!These are typically posted by high school seniors and college freshman. It's best to disregard posts like this.
guys, do you think robotics engineering is good as master degree? or should i get into something less specific?
>>10288313Masters degrees are gay and retarded unless you want to be a bottom bitch doing R&D and earning literal peanuts
>>10288313Great path to take. You can use your skills many places.
3rd year ME here interested in Aerospace. Going to UCCS and pretty much just need to network so if anyone in the field lives in or around Colorado I'd love to get in touch.
CS major here. I was interested in getting a job in embedded systems but wasn't sure how the market was like. I've heard there are not many jobs around. Hence why CE's go into software. Is this true? I live near LA If it helps.Asking cause I was considering taking an embedded systems electives but if the field is pretty small I'd rather not waste my time.
>>10288153Wtf is with this >need a GPA 3.5 or aboveAs along as you have above a 3.0 and some kind of experience you will be fine. This OP needs to be updated to actually reflect reality rather than the fucking memes.
>>10289526My school uses a retarded gpa scale. What average% grades do those correspond to?
>>102895363.0 is generally a B, 3.3 is a B+, 3.6 is a A-, and A is a 4.0
Should I do biomedical engineering, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, or computer systems engineering?I plan to do a BME masters after. All I need is a bach choice.
tfw 2 more years of collegePower or Communications?Really want to do DSP, but Power seems like it has more jobs.
>>10289381Don't you fags consider embedded systems an engineering field?Kinda hard to keep up with the autism.
What is the power levels between engineers Civil, mechanical, electrical, ect...
>>10290150EE, Civil > the rest
>>10288153>consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openingsWTF is the OP 15 years outdated or what?Generally the number of engineers graduating is much lower than what is needed, at least here in the EU.As long as you know what you are doing you are fine, nobody will look at your GPA at the nterview. Especially if the company has been burned by a perfect GPA special snowflake autismo. A 3.0 GPA is more than enough, having good social skills and being able to perform in a team is what secures your job.
>>10290150Electrical Engineering is the hardest undergrad degree
>>10289830CS majors belong in the >>>/g/hetto
>>10290772I dunno but I feel like I am dying...>be me, 30 married >change careers from physical labour>get into school for EE>wife gets pregnant, ohfuck.exe>get research assistant job to make money while taking a full course load>daughter born in sophomore year>she has colic and doesn’t sleep ever>run pleasedontdiewhiledriving.exe due to not sleeping more that 4 broken hrs a night for a whole year>survive and land an internship after 3rd year>...rest>1 month into internship wife gets pregnant >ahhhhhh.exeI am currently in 4th year with 2 kids under 4.
>>10290804Use fucking birth control you retard
WHY WONT GULFSTREAM CALL ME BACKAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
>>10288153>BAD reasons:>I want a high paying jobbrainlet/leftist with a guilty spirit/lobotomized by the jews
>>10290730>consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openingsThis is true for niche engineering topics like BioE, Nuclear, ChemE, MatSci, etc. Civil, EE, and Mechanical are fine
>>10290984I’m 34 and married. Right age, wrong life situation
>>10290994Do you think someone will succeed in engineering if they’re only in it for a high paying job? Would they even get one? I doubt it. You’d need some kind of inspiration to be in this (or any) major and get a good salary.
>>10291019So? Just because you are married doesn't mean that having sex always means a new kid. How about you grow up and become more stable in your life before producing more children?
>>10291418You sounds like a kissless fag
>>10290804>married at 30 and going to college as a freshmandude wtf you couldve just gone to trade school to be an electrician and started earning a similar salary as EE, and you wouldve been done like 3 years early.
>>10289658Concentrations don't even matter, take the classes that interest you. All the brainlets in EE at my school did power because it's easier and now they work in all kinds of jobs that have nothing to do with power. Meanwhile my wife did signals and now works for the power company designing substations.>>10290150Chemical > EE > mechanical > nuclear > civil > the dog shit stuck to my shoe > computer > biomedical > CS majors who think they're engineers > petroleum
>>10292147What do you have against computer engies?
>>10292156Not him, but EEs are better CEs.
>>10292156I was a little harsh, maybe. Some of them are alright, the field itself isn't so bad. It's just that most of the job openings are in software so most of them end up being code monkeys anyway. I would never pick CE over EE.
>>10290804kek you're a fucking retardeddon't even know how to prevent a kidhow do u want a major in something so hard? at least you can dream... oh no, you can't even
>>10292184>>10290984Not the 30 year old boomer. Different Anon here. I hate to use this meme but I think you guys are KHHV wizards. Or more likely, very very young. Women get infected with a virulent strain of baby rabies when they are in their mid to late 20s. Well, it usually starts in the early 20s but if not treated by late 20s, they get crazy.This dudes wife was probably hounding him at every turn trying to do everything she could to get him to fuck her unprotected. I have sympathy for him but at the same time he royally screwed a lot of things up. Women are kind of retarded and will deliberately try to get pregnant even when they are not in a financially secure position in life.To use some of the hip slang of this generation, this nibba should've had his parents or wifey's parents help take care of the babby. This nibba shouldve gone to trade school instead of starting a goddam EE BSc at age 30. I feel bad for the 30 year old boomers who enroll as freshman when they have infants to take care of, but at the same time you had other options its not like this was forced on you
>>10292192yahI'm a girl and you're totally right heh
>>10292208If youre white, make 5+ white babbys
I'm planning on going to the KTH in Sweden as an exchange student for one semester. How fucked am I if I don't know any Swedish?
>>10293438Try to learn some because it's polite, but when I was in Stockholm most people spoke English. Young people in college especially will probably speak very good English.
>>10293457Is Swedish hard to learn?
>>10291418>Just because you are married doesn't mean that having sex always means a new kid.But it should, anon. It should.
>>10288153What do you lads think of Mechatronics Engineering?
>>10293567It's terrible, just major in ME or EE.
>>10290150Physics Engineer > the rest
>>10292232im Latina heh
>>10293630Seconded, just do me or we as bachelor and do the other as master if you really want the skillset of someone who did mechatronics.
Any tips for someone who is studying but doesn't really like the vibe of consultancy firms but loves the work they do?I've done an internship at one of the biggest in my country but didn't like the culture, is it any different at a firm with <100 employees?
>>10293827Yes the smaller firms do have a cultural difference than the large firms but things can be a bit more stressful. I prefer working at a smaller firm after working at both.Individual contracts and billings become a lot more important, losing them can create a lot of stress and people don't always feel safe in terms of employment when it comes to smaller firms.
>>10293839Cool, I hadn't really thought about the dependence on securing contracts, sounds like something that's stressful but on the other hand securing contracts will probably also feel more satisfying.
>>10290150Biomedical > all
>>10293853It is a very rewarding feeling when the firm wins a contract. One of my favorite things about it
>>10293630>>10293822honestly what's so terrible about it? Surely there are a lot more career opportunities than if I were to specialise.
>>10294019Because you become an expert of nothing? Electrical is better at electronics, Mechanical is better at everything mechanical, and CS is better at programming. What does Mechatronics give you that makes you superior to the other three?>But I learn Circuits 1/2, Statics/Dynamics, and control systemsWell you need to know a lot more than that to work in any specific role in Mechatronics position. Sorry I would rather hire the EE for the electronics, an ME to design the mechanics, and a CS person to program my systems/robots.Mechatronics is a relatively new undergrad degree (it used to only be a graduate degree in the US) and lacks any particular benefit besides dipping you feet into a bunch of different pools.
>>10294029is there really no crossover between the jobs though? No scenarios in which having knowledge from multiple branches is more beneficial than specialising in one?
>>10294038Those jobs exist but they are not entry level jobs and having a degree for that won't make you qualified. They are system / system integrator engineers and they typically require many years (8+) of experience. Their work also tends to be very high level/ soft technical integration.
>>10294038There is, that's why I recommend doing a master in one and a bachelor in the other. But there's no benefit in knowing a bit about everything. Engineering is a specialist job. You only need to understand your project partners not be able to do their job
>>10294052>>10294046Shieeet, well too late now, thanks anyway though lads.
High school student here, should I go into Engineering or CS if I'm only average at math? I'm more interested in engineering than programming but I also want a decent job, thoughts? Anyone here regret doing Engineering instead of CS?
>>10294306Engineering. if you can't find an engineering job you still can get a programming job, you don't need a CS degree to do that.
>torn between CE and EE>want to do firmware, operating system design for a career>if CE I'll almost certainly become a code monkey>if EE I'll almost certainly become lead barista at starbucks>really just want to design analog and digital synthesizerslife hurts
>>10294306as long as you can do calculus and your algebra is alright you'll make itall math in engineering is just basic calculus with different costumes on so it seems scary. If you've got good fundamentals in algebra and calc you'll be fine.
>>10294306All the memeing about engineering having difficult math is done by brainlets. It's not hard at all provided you're willing to put in the work. It's mostly brute force and repetition (smashing out integrals and differential equations), instead of anything conceptually difficult like analysis.
>>10293463i did an exchange in sweden in hs and all the other exchange students (but me) were completely fluent by the years end, im talkin like 30 people
I do math, which is like engineering for people who have brains
im seriously thinking about going to CE now. im doing biotechnology but i realized that i dont want this anymore. any advices?everyone says that CE is one of the most difficult engineering field and above from that there aren`t many jobs for it, at least in my country....
>>10294334Take a minor in business/MBA and make the plebs do the work
>>10294746CE demand is growing rapidly. EE has a large amount of overlap (ECE) though and is more widely recognized so that could be a safer bet.
>>10292147So how many cocks does she have to suck per day? Asking because im a femmgineer as well and want to fullfill my cock quota before applying for a job.
>>10294751It varies by person. Suck mine and I'll be able to tell you
>>10294750i never thought about doing EE actually. it just seem so boring
There are always a ton of EEs on /sci/. What are the most based subdisciplines of EE? Or what field do you work in and do you like it?
>>10294781CE is literally mostly EE with some CSIf you think EE is boring you should just take Comp sci instead
>>10294782RF by far.
>>10294787Other than because you are taking it, what are the reasons?
>>10294791It's the most math intensive EE field.
>>10294795More than controls or signal processing?
>>10294795Sounds like fun. What math subjects are specific to RF?
>>10294781>EE is boring memeHow fucking autistic do you have to say this garbage? Do you think you'll be jacking off in your apartment doing thermo/statics homework if you major in Mech Engineering instead?Engineering is boring. Get over it, you faggot.
>>10294799Lots of vector calc, PDE. To me at least RF seems more physics and Controls and Signal Processing to be more math-like.What are the career prospects of RF? I know there are a lot of jobs in industrial controls and the most stable is probably power.
>>10294815wow are u mad stupid maleneering fag?
>>10294821No. That’d be me. And i wasn’t bashing malegineers. Only the competency of women in engineering.
>>10294799RF EE makes use of a broad range of mathematical techniques, from linear algebra to vector calculus, from complex variables to nonlinear systems.
>>10294827If I enjoyed first year linear algebra would that be a good option or is that too general?
>>10294821Picking a major based on what's boring or not is fucking retarded. The classes aren't supposed to be entertaining. Its supposed to be WORK, not a fucking carnival ride.
>>10294876Having an interest in the material is powerful intrinsic motivator to learn it. There are far easier ways to become a menial wage slave than going to University
>>10294836Maybe, you'll need way more math than just linear algebra though.
>>10294879>Having an interest in the material is powerful intrinsic motivator to learn it.Motivation is fickle. Discipline is better in every way. Youre just going to crash and burn if you rely on motivation to succeed
>>10294901Variables regarding motivation can be directly manipulated and leveraged into habit forming behavior (ie discipline) over time. If anything telling somebody to just suck it up and do it is far less likely to work
>>10294910Actual PEs and EITs work very similar jobs. A systems engineer will work alongside mechanical engineers, who work alongside electrical engineers, who work alongside civil engineers who... etc.Talk with an EIT or PE one day. Their work is usually interesting and engaging. And if it wasn't they could easily transfer somewhere where they were better suited. Working as a PE or EIT is a totally different experience from earning a degree, however. The fact remains that engineering classes are not intended to be fun. They are academic. If you find academic study to be boring then that's a personal problem. I don't find my classes boring, but I don't find them riveting they. They simply are. Furthermore you're assuming all EE classes are the same, when you are studying a massively diverse field of study and on top of all of this you can even choose a specialization so you can tailor your classes, e.g. you can study signals, power systems, biomedical, etc etcYoure just being willfully ignorant and possibly locking yourself out of a very lucrative and easygoing, even fun, career, by simply sticking your nose up because you FEEL like EE is going to be boring. But its your decision to be a dumpass.
>>10294876oh yeah now i see where is the mistake.... im a brazilian girl so i just want some degree that looks like a carnival march
>>10294937I'm not the original poster you're referring to just a decided to chip in when the comment that engineering isn't supposed to be fun came out.
>tfw nuclear engineering student in 4th year with 2.7 GPAlads should i just off myself
Hey guys 3rd year Computer Eng. student here. I've failed many times in my Math courses in past 3 years I'm getting close to my 4th year course, can still recover?
>>10289617That doesn't fuxking help, retard.
>>10295439You can get a degree but you can’t recover your gpa. It is really hard to get an internship with a gpa below 3.0. For a 3.0 you need to know people and hustle, 3.2 you are good for all but the best companies, 3.5 you are golden. And without an internship it is hard to get your first real job.
>>10295459thanks for the response.
>>10295439Have side projects documented and mention them in your resume. Apply tohundreds of jobs. Sure having a shit gpa will make your life harder, but if you show youre a self starter and can explain how your projects work, you will make a good impression. Its not the end of the world. Even people with high gpa’s struggle to find a job right away. You need stuff that makes your resume stand out projects are one, internehips, club memberships etc...
Any decent robotics SMEs in the UK ? All the exciting work seems to be US based and Im not sure if i could get a company to sponsor my visa
>>10291225actuaries hate everything and they make good money
>>10294334Where you based in the Netherlands we have a big shortage on EE and it's a good country to be an expat in
How do you guys organize yourselves with classes, intern and hobbies? I feel that I don't have time for nothing and this is bothering me
>Studying EE>Want to be that one engineer that actually knows math and how to write good code>Get completely blasted in the ass by the insane workload in analog circuit subjects>No time for math or programmingA-at least I can design an audio amplifier, right guys?
Has anyone here stuided/practiced TRIZ? Is it just a meme or does it actually help with innovating solutions?
>>10296250You feel like you don't have time for nothing? Unless you're spending every waking minute working towards advancing your engineering knowledge I doubt lack of time is the issue. Stop wasting so much of your life on mindless entertainment and do shit to improve your situation in the real world.
>>10294029This dude is a meme and a ratard>>10294038Mechatronics is designed to throw you into the deep end of many pools, but you don't fuck around, you just replace the deeper parts of each degree with more practical courses.Like, electrical physics and quantum mechanics is replaced with embedded software courses, you replace thermomechanics and deeper fluid mechanics of mechanical with more control theory and state space modelling, you replace software architecture and algorithm courses with more low-level embedded and hardware interface. The natural state of all things is not to work, mechatronics attempts to generalise the control of phenomena across multiple types of process. "Make it work, make it pretty." That is what you get deeply into; not stressing over milograms of coolant in a refrigerator. >t. Done mechanical and mechatronics separately I lauf and lauf at sperglectricals and memechanicals who can't code for shit, and at software engineers who don't know what torque is
>>10296761which dd you do for undergrad and which did you do for graduate school?
>>10296261Why didn't you take ECE then?
>>10296977I did both for undergrad. In Australia both degrees are 4 years each full time, so there's very little reason to go back for masters unless an employee wants to put you through it for a specific purpose like business
>>10296761I don't know what your curriculum looks like in fucking upside down land but in USA the curriculum I described is accurate. In fact everything I wrote is accurate when it comes to the United States.
>>10297075Learn to read sperg, >>10297031So the problem is the programs in the country? Because they're 3 years from memory, and you pay like 50-100k right? Ofc you can't be trained in 3 years, no reason to chase a master's or anything, if you aren't useful after an undergrad degree a master's will do nothing for you lmao do you guys have electives?
Hi EE's do you think power or controls is a better career choice? I know I prefer analog to digital but I don't mind some coding and Matlab. RF is awesome but there are no jobs in Canada, I dunno about the effect 5G will have
>>10297227controls. power is the most brainlet EE subfield.
>>10297233Yes but the pay is good, it is stable, and it is heavily aged with a huge portion of the staff nearing retirement. I hope the boredom doesn't kill me but there are SCADA controls in the smart grid applications. I just don't know how math intensive this is and I have strong math skills (for an EE)
>>10297173I know you did an undergrad degree in two things separately. What is your point you fucking aussie? I am telling you the undergrad mechatronics is a meme degree in the US.
>>10294626Currently taking computer science, so do you guys not do any proofs e.g. induction, contradiction, etc., or is that different from analysis I’m a freshman btw
>>10297331>Currently taking computer scienceSee >>10290776
>>10297339I was merely asking a question. I don’t you all get so worked up about it. Isn’t that what this place is for
>>10297395CS gets hot and heavy bantz here for not being “sciency” enough, it is a joke... sort of... maybe
>>10288153this general info is seriously biased and fucking stupid.
>>10292147>butthurt he didnt get into Texas A&M petroleumstay mad
>>10293630this, pick a engineering that has been around for awhile, you can always get a masters or take classes later on in life.
>>10294784my school is 60% cs and 40% EE
>>10294782Power, or anything that is mostly analog work digital fags can suck it
>>10295185not gonna lie, its not fantastic. If you are american join the navy, im not even joking. You will get paid and get some work experience. If you become an officer (which you should considering you have a college degree) it looks great on a resume. Dude im not kidding you one bit, considering becoming an officer in the navy.
>>10296980Not him but the licensure exam gonna mess myself up.
>>10297240>>10297233isnt there a growing demand to innovate with new technologies?
Is hardware description (FPGA/ASIC) lucrative as an EE specialization?I really excel in those courses, but it seems to me that analog electronics is tougher and more in demand
>>10296250Same. When school starts, i already know I’m going to be loaded with work and studying, I have no idea when i’m going to have time to go out or do my hobbies, but thats just life. Just gotta go with the flow
>>10288153Anyone specilizing in fluids/heat transfer/CFD?If you have started working, how do you like the job? Are you happy with it or wish you had chosen a different area? Anything else you can think of related to it.
i'm thinking of doing a couple of arduino based projects to add to my resume. I am EE major, but want to go into software or some sort microcontroller field. Would these make my resume look better? Thinking of doing some simple ones like an AM signal transmitter and maybe doing like a robot hand with a couple of servos to move around the fingers. I was thinking of maybe doing something with a biomedical sensors like light up led's when the sensor detect voltage through parts of your skin, but I'm not sure. Feels like a super simple project, but I want to make it do more... just not sure what.
>>10297233Power has more demand than all of the other EE subfields together. Power has a lot of subfields as well, it can be as brainlet as you make it.
>>10297993It really does depend on the project. In general I'm not really very impressed with Arduino projects because of how large the library is, and for any module there exists a library that makes the code simple as shit.If you in your project write your own libraries or access the hardware in a more direct way than is typical for Arduino code then that would definitely be a plus, though.
>>10298018>because of how large the library is, and for any module there exists a library that makes the code simple as shit.Don't you have any CS friends? Everybody working in software engineering uses any library. Obviously you need to understand it, but there is no reason to write everything from scratch.
>>10298024Yes, obviously, but the problem with that mentality is that those community libraries are defined for consumer/hobby grade electronics. In a work environment you're expected to know how to write drivers for any hardware that you can then pass on to the CS guys. Knowing how the code relates to the hardware is the bread and butter of embedded software engineers.
>>10298026Any book recommendation for that? I know some C and Python
>>10297993You should and use libraries for the first couple so you understand what you are doing and to give you an idea of how stuff should look like. Then you can venture into >>10298018 and doing things from scratch.
Digital communication exam in 1 weekWhy is this shit so difficult?
>>10298018Arduino has never really attracted my attention to be honest, but at this point I'd like to add projects to make my resume have engineering stuff on it and not just be a blank page. The intro to microconrollers class I took a year ago, we used a TI launchpad. It was alright using it and it definitely required more in depth knowledge than an arduino project. I might just use that since it's all in C anyway. Do you have any recommendations on projects to add to a resume. I'm just trying to start off light and understand the depth of the code I use, but also document the process explaining how the projects work from the wiring to the coding aspect etc...
>>10297806Way different herein Canada. There are always digital jobs but no analog. I prefer analog
>>1029214790% of chemE majors are suicidal by junior year after realizing they should have majored in EE/compE/CS.where the jobs at nigga
Signals and Systems exam on Thursday lads I'm fucking bricking it
>>10298184I'm a process engineer now, my friends have all kinds of jobs. There's definitely jobs.
>>10298035compilers are the bridge between the hardware and software. Read the dragon book. and books on operating systems
>>10289526>3.5 is required for any top tier entry level position. If your GPA is lower you should switch majors
>>10298345Do you mean the wizard book?
>>10298431https://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Principles-Techniques-Tools-2nd/dp/0321486811>>10298370https://www.spacex.com/internships look at the GPA requirement.
Is it typical at most universities to do two years of general undergraduate study and then submit an application to join your major? But where major admissions are competitive and they end up rejecting 85% of people even though they've wasted two years studying at that school already? Are all schools like this?
>>10288153>>10288153>>I have delusions about becoming the next Elon Musk ("I want to change the world!")How is that a bad reason? That means you have great passion and motivation. You will be less likely to fail your classes and drop out
>>10298804>You will be less likely to fail your classes and drop outNo, that's what exactly what it means. You are totally disconnected from the realities of engineering and unprepared for what will come in your coursework and on the job. It means you're destined to be a big fuckup.
>>10298531>tfw 3.44 I don't want to work at SpaceX anyways.
>>10297625Yes, join the navy so china can have some target practice with their new railgun.
>>10297625Not him (just a regular Mech E), but what sort of people do they hire to work on the nuclear reactors? Also do I need to pass a health screen?
How does grading in USA work in practice? I've heard that an american A+ is like a European A, but then I've also heard that A+ is like >97% in which case it doesn't apply because A in Europe is typically somewhere above 90-92%.At the same time, I don't understand how 4.0 GPA seems so common when Americans talk about GPA. Surely having A as your average grade would place you in like the top 1st percentile?
>>10298917>Surely having A as your average grade would place you in like the top 1st percentile?It does, but most Americans get shafted because companies only hire the top 10%. Essentially it's a form of selection bias.
>>10290150aerospace > physics > electrical > mechanical > mining > maritime > math > civil > computer > nanobiology > biomedical > molecular chemistry > celular chemistry >>> industrial design > architecture > managementt. TU Delft
>>10290804congrats on procreating, anon
>>10298967which should i pickphysics engineering or math engineering
>>10298974Depends on what you want anon.>real life applications vs. academic black belt>career after studies in academia or industry>what kind of work do you want to do
>>10298974I would pick physics though
>>10298900I'm not the guy to ask this as I have no military experience, however I did a ton of research on the topic in high school cause I was considering military service. The best thing you can do is read the us navy website and just talk to people on /k/ (they usually have and enlistment general) And yes you will go through a health screening, you are joining the us military, that's a no brainer. They will technically train both enlisted and officers to handle their tasks from the ground up. However they really want officers to have college degrees in technical backgrounds, so a mech degree should give you a high chance of being accepted into the officer training program.
Just got hired for a logistics and sustainment engineering role at a defense contractor. I graduated with a mech eng. degree and they knew that during the interview. I told them I never did any logistics work but I also did a good job at explaining how projects I worked on during school gave me some experience towards it.I got the job and I'm scared I won't know what the fuck I am doing. They're gonna give me some kinda training right? They mentioned "on the job training" but that was it. I don't wanna go in like a retard and not know what the fuck I am doing and get fired.
>>10299577I have this same fear, but has anyone ever gotten hired, and than fired within their first 3 months.
>>10299577They probably expect you to not know shit about industry or your specific field just like every other new graduate. You'll be fine, it takes everyone like 6 months to a year to start becoming actually useful at their first job.
Any mech bros here tonightMy semester just started and I'm pretty excited for it.
How is the job market for photonics/nano/optoelectronics EE? Should I do masters?
>>10298226same, am also process engineer.what industry do you work in?
>>10298967This is for difficulty but certain not job outlook. Engineering physics is amazing but you are truly the master of none
I have a math degree with data science electives and marketing degree as well. My mother claims my older brother who is a EE had more math then me. I think she is wrong because the engineers I talk to dont understand how to do math and rely on maple.
>>10300312>useless bachelors>mother doesn't love you>jealous of engineersHere's a sympathy (You)
>>10300312>maplethe absolute state of USA
>>10300289Yes although difficulty adds to the reputation of the degree which makes you land any non-niche job easier. In Delft at least aerospace and physics departments are prime hunting grounds for strategy consultants and banks for example.The starting salaries would look like:mining > maritime > aerospace > electrical > computer > more or less everything else > management >>> architecture
I'm 18 and I have a couple questions:I have very little interest in working as an engineer but I like math quite a bit and I find business to be a useless and unchallanging undergrad. Is that a good enough reason to study engineering(CSE CE or EE) in undergrad?>something to split the two questions upIs it better to study CSE in Austria Hungary or Germany? Both Austria and Germany would give me a 10-20k-ish debt but here in Hungary I could live at home 3 minutes from campus. I definetly want to move to Germany or Austria for work later on, which one is a better choice?Is CS or CSE better if I'm more interested in programming?
Can someone please weigh in on this? >>10298800
Mechanical engineering student, specialization in robotics and mechatronics, just finished undergrad and took cybernetics as grad elective.Doing good so far, had no problem with subjects (except machine elements, that shit came out of satan's herpes riddled crotch).Asking for advice on two things. >1. Should I go for a doctorate or look for a career after Masters degree?>2. Do you recommend getting a physics/math Masters after graduating? As in will it help with R&D in the field of robotics, mechatronics and cybernetics?
Why are engineering textbooks so informal?The one I'm reading about small signal audio just quoted Mr. Spock
>>10298800AFAIK You get 3 years of undergrad, and choose your specialization in the third semester (2nd year). That's how it's structured in my uni and probably a lot of others in Europe.And of course popular majors/specializations will be the most competitive. But that doesn't mean you wasted jack shit. Simply take another major, switch faculties (i.e. EE to CE) and you're in business. As cheesy as it fucking sounds, the old adage of "If you love it, you'll enjoy it" rings true for engineering. Hell, you even have more experience after switching and you're immediately in front of the herd. In my uni it's kinda a tradition if you fail to get accepted in a popular major, you either take another major and audit the desired one, or just switch to a faculty with similar majors and roflstomp it with your already acquired knowledge.
>>10300760If you are more interested in programming CS obviously
How important is it to be enthusiastic and happy when finding a job as a computer engineer? I'm depressed (like doctor depressed, even got the diagnosis unspecified bipolar disorder but the healthcare system is so awful they couldn't even properly diagnose me (i dont get any manic states, only depressed, hence im not bipolar), which is why i got no help) and are forcing myself to get my studies done so that i can get a job which ensures i have a roof over my head and food on my table. But it's rather hard to be social and happy about things since i just dont care about anything anymore, I just want to survive. Do i have to continue faking happiness and enthusiasm in order to get hired or can I finally be truthful since I finally have educational leverage?
>>10300804Are you complaining that your books aren't dry?
>>10300804Because if you're dealing with abstract concepts and mathematical notation you don't want to burn your mental energy in understanding the book's writing style as well as the concepts it's supposed to be explaining.Leave it to the people in the arts and humanities to use unnecessarily elaborate and formal language to pretend like they're doing serious academic business.
>>10298967why do I keep seeing the same names over and over in these types of communities? Also, why is molecular/cellular chemistry a type of chemistry?
>>10302948A type of *engineering*, I can't word today, it''s past my bedtime
Why would wanting more money be a bad reason to get into an engineering degree?
>>10303188the job market is flooded.
>>10298190in signals and systems right now anon, i feel you pain
>>10298226>process engineera fancy title for someone who draws arrows everywhere
In Australia, got through 1st year engineering which covered statics and dynamics, electrical circuits and programming and process engineering. It also covered basically up to high school maths b (calculus and shit) and maths c (matrices and infinite series). I have a GPA of about 5.3 (4 is P, 5 is C, 6 is D, and 7 is HD. I feel retarded but at the same time I think I would do better if I could just get into studying. I never studied in high school and now it's kicking my ass in Uni. What do I do? Does it get exponentially harder through the years or is it fairly linear?
is being a scientist actually a more respected profession than being an engineer?
>>10303340You can be a gender scientist, but you can't be a gender engineer. So no, it's not.
>>10303342Just you wait. I guarantee some cunt is going to invent that in the next few years. Everyone will have designer genders "engineered" by gender "engineers".
Is it true that connections are more important than grades? Surely if you go on a University sponsored tour and talk with the manager of some power plant (talking of electrical engineering here, obviously) they would be more interested in hiring you, even if you only had fairly average grades around a credit or distinction, than someone who just studies all day and has never interacted with people outside of Uni before. We have Industry nights at our Uni once a semester where different companies which need various majors talk about their business and the people who attend ask them questions and drink free beer. Seems like chatting them up is infinitely more valuable than a number on your certificate. Also getting involved with your Uni's clubs.
My exams start in 2 weeks and I didn’t bother to learn anything also wasn’t in uni for 2 months. How can I efficiently finesse the faggots? Especially chemistry, I don’t know shit. 1st semester tho
>>10303389Give up you lazy retard.
>>10303391nah. Engineering isn’t that hard at all. Also even when I fail, I’m young. Don’t act like a genius faggot engineers are everywhere they aren’t that smart
>>10303417>wasting the best years of your life and the prosperity of your future on failing "easy" coursesOkay retard.
>>10288153Environmental engineering Any thoughts on this?
>>10303431That's a fancy but easy minor to put on your resume, anyone who tells you otherwise is retarded or trying to rip you off.
>>10303430Who said that I’ll fail brainlet? Just because it’s a pain in your faggotass, doesn’t mean it has to be for everyone.
i'm in my 2nd year of aerospace.. i'm always so exhausted my brain can't even comprehend my own tiredness and so it just keeps going.. and going and going.. and it never stops...only do it if you absolutely love it
>>10303460>even when I fail>who said that I'll failYou're so brainlet you can't even keep a track of what you're saying. Either that or you don't understand English. Sad!
>>10303462bad advice.How do you know you (don’t) love it if you never did it?
>>10303471English isn’t my first language. Brainlet I mean that even when I fail it’s not like the world would end but who the fuck says that I’ll fail. It’s just a hypothetical when
>>10303431It's a great major that is sure to keep growing in the future, but be sure that you actually care about understansing the environment and you're not just doing it for the money.
>>10303480Not it isn't you retard. If it was hypothetical you would use the word 'if' not 'when'. Even people with English as their second language would understand that difference.
>>10298146A fun one is an inverted pendulum robot, make a RC Segway
>>10303386Good marks give you the opportunity to make contacts, Contacts hire you, not jobs.
>>10303489But it’s my third language. Checkmate, atheist.
>>10303497I mean, not really. It's the initiative and sociability of the person which allows them to make contacts. Anyone can come to these industry nights for free, but out of 1st year class of maybe 120 or so people, only about 10-20 showed up. Anyone can stalk some CEOs and find out where they hang out to "bump" into them but not many people do that. I would say it's all about initiative.
>>10303517Yeah look none of what you said is wrong but good marks is an indication you've learnt your stuff, which can mean performing well/general high opinion of ya,
>>10298967My uni is offering an exchange to Delft, is it worth going? I'm half Dutch and speak it fluently so I don't really care much about the English courses (although it's a bit rusty, my Dutch) What do they offer than my university doesn't have? (University of Canterbury)
>>10288153anyone /biotech/ in here. I was working for a company and was giving them my blood so we didn't have to buy it, along with a couple other people, but I ended up getting fired for some bullshit and never got payed for my blood. They were friends of the family so I thought they'd come through but they are just ignoring me, is there anything I can do? or who should I get in contact with to move against them.
>>10303548talk to a lawyer
>>10303553You think that's worth it? Its less than 10 grand worth of blood. I mainly just want to see them get hit by a regulatory body, you think a lawyer would take it on without me paying?
>>10303559>>10303553For research they would have to have information on who's blood it was, if they agreed to pay you beforehand than they either did blood testing from an unknown source or used your blood without paying you, The lawyer would charge some percentage
>>10303541>UKWas that a rhetorical question? Also get an EU citizenship while you're there, just for lolxit
>>10303564Canterbury as in New Zealand, mate. I've got my Dutch passport so it wouldn't be hard. I could live with my uncle and aunt in Groningen. How long/expensive would it be to bus there and back?
>>10303563Couldn't you just sue for lawyer fees as well considering they're the ones who refused to honor the contract.
>>10303568Ah. Still I would go, see the world while you're young, get some connections you wouldn't be able to get while staying in your upside down shoe
>>10303573I guess your right, I'm just not a hopeful person and they are really underhanded shitty people. Hint this also involves invoices they backdated, but I know where to send those.
>>10303323You're thinking of the kind of process engineer that works for an EPC and does purely design work. I'm the type of process engineer that works at a chemical plant.
>>10303332It does get harder, but so can you.https://warosu.org/sci/thread/S10302580#p10303100
>>10303389just watch some lectures at 2x speed on whatever the syllabus covers.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_engineeringis this a meme degree? what's the difference with classic EE?
>>10303756EE is electric engineeringEnergy engineering is about coverting fuel to energy, be it heat or electric. You do a lot of burning calculations, furnace and boiler design (and calculations) and many gas chromatography measurements (and calculations after that)Had two introductory classes during mat sci, one for burning, another for furnace and boiler design coupled with energy management and heat insulation calculation. It was tedious but no industrial complex can go without at least one (or a whole energy management crew), so I'd say if you go for it then you won't have any problems finding a high paying job.
I don't even want to be an engineer nor make my own thread but what's the process like for getting into college? Just curious.
i have yet to show up to one of my classes and haven't even met my professorstarting to get emails from a worried professor
>>10304532Your professor cares about you. Go to class and be thankful your prof gives a shit.
>>10304527For grad school?
>>10304541Undergrad, need a four year degree with good grades ∆ ∆∆
>>10304558So your a high school senior then. There's nothing you can really do to change your GPA or SAT performance, but what you should do is self-study for as many AP classes as possible and take community college classes in the summer if you can.
>professor cancelled classguess todays not the day i meet my professor
>>10304621>>10304558If you take the extra classes, don't forget to mention them in your motivational letter, proffessors like students who give a shit, even a mediocre student who cares about the extra mile of extending their abilities worth more than a pristine grade student who doesn't give a shit.I've met a good number of special snowflake pristine HS grade students who bled out in first semester, thinking they are the hot shit and not attending lectures. Professors like those who go to their lectures and show legit interest in what they want to teach.
>>10304621>>10304832Bros, I'm not in highschool I'm 19. I cheesed school and received a diploma at 16 by worming my way into what was effectively a last resort program for retards who still want to graduate. As a result, I did get to leave school, however, I never took the SAT and my HS GPA is obviously 0. I don't think that bodes well for acceptance, should've been more specific.
>>10304891I hope you can write a mean motivational letter
>>10289169Unless you're like the Woz or Keller, it's hard to outsmart the chinks.
>>10303925ok ty that's what I thought first but when I checked the master's program there were a lot of courses about : >Design, optimize and supervise energy systems>Integrate decentralized energy production systems>Develop hydrogen and renewable energy technologies>Implement infrastructure safety...But there almost no mentionning of engineering thermodynamics except Heat and Mass Transfers.the fuck...
>>10305195It means the base classes like thermodynamics etc. are covered in the course as basic fundamentals and you get much much more to learn.With my introductory classes these were also covered as basic stuff witch the rest of the class is built upon.You will get an entire semester worth of stuff crammed into 1-2 weeks and the rest is filled with more complex calculations and exercises.I've seen ME and physics students crumble under a puny intro class. I am warning you, it is a lot to tackle.
>>10305245shit I was hoping to have some extra time to learn more programming stuff (cauz we do only have do some arduino projects, OOP in java and some shitty apps in python) but i guess heat exchangers computations gonna keep me distracted lel
>>10304832Why wouldn't you do this anyway? You're paying for a fucking education, why would you miss a single lecture? You'll have the rest of your life to goof off.
>>10292156All the CEs at my school complain on reddit about being virgins. So there's that.
>>10305351I have to commute 1 1/2 hours. And it just annoys me to have a 3h trainride everyday. I hope I can find an apartment soon, then I‘d give 100%. But I’m just making excuses at the end of the day
>>10288153What does /sci/ think about the future of software engineering? I know right it’s joke, but does it have the potential to be a legitimate field of engineering in its own right? And what are some other potential fields that will develop in the next few years or decades?
>>10304891If you don't get in (and even if you do with little scholarship money), seriously consider community college. No meme. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPrpRbuoEPE
>>10304532You're actually an ass.
>>10303731Looks good, cheers.
>>10288153>>10288313>>10288818>>10289061>>10289102What about genetic engineering and eugenics as described in this video :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usk_xwlaWLgAlso read this chapter 11 a book called “Mein Kampf” which says that "Russians are a great people" in the text below :http://hitler.org/writings/Mein_Kampf/mkv1ch11.html
ChemEng that fell for the post-graduate studies meme here. I feel like I have just wasted 2 years of my life, at least I'm not paying a cent of it>Anon, you should stay for a PhD, it will only take 4 years, by the time you finish it you'll be 30 with literally no accumulated wealth and literally unemployable in the industryAs much as I like teaching, I would not do it. Would probably kill myself first
>>10306063What rank is your school?
>>10305662Was hoping to do ROTC; I don't think the local community college offers that. Thanks anyways.
>>10306063Waterloo, 163 qs
why is physics 2 easier than physics 1?t. freshman
So I just graduated in mechanical engineering but I realized I really like the controls area of engineering. I realized this way too late though to even begin specializing in EE. Not ready to just hop into grad school either. How can I get into the field? I don't have any professional experience right now. I can begin buffing up whatever programming languages might be useful.
>>10306918learn controls and do research with a professor.
in 1 week i'll find out whether i'm in the software engineering course or noti just checked my grades and i probably won't but people with worse grades than mine have entered uni before so i'm literally shaking and want to throw up
>>10306886Difficulty-wise, they're probably similar. E&M is a bit more abstract though. I thought physics 2 was substantially more boring than 1.
>>10297484>it is a jokeYeah, CS definitely is a fucking joke.
Going to start uni this february. Civil engineering. Any tips?
>>10308771civ engineering is rather formulaic so remember to take a lot of notes and organize yourself.
>>10308076And how would you rate physics 3's difficulty
>>10290804If you can keep that pace, the workload you are pushing is huge.From that, you ll earn ppl respect, and that one of the greatest reward...F
>>10293875bunch of cunt not understanding basic math>be me french master degree from topnotch uni doing theoretical stuff in fluid mechanics>look for phd>end up in countryside uk doing biomed stuff>previous phd student is not done>supervisor ask me crap stuff while waiting>read articles and shit>they use linear models to approxim8 anything>"SHEIT approximation too strong model is wrong" >try again using different variable ...>feels bad
>>10303502Then perhaps you can become a linguist/translator, instead of trying to prove to some anons that you're only wasting precious time/money because you choose to.
>>10297903Doing phd, so cannot reply to your questions.But from I could understand, you should go for CFD, Today, for company it is cheaper to have computer than lab work/experimental stuff...I could find work in transport/energy/electronic industryGot a mail recently from exxon about extracting petrol in the US, hahaIt is quite large field of application
>>10297031>did both >both degrees are 4 years each full timeSo you spent 8 years in school? Also upon obtaining a mech degree in Australia (which I aim to do), is it worth compounding with a rather unrelated STEM degree - e.g. Physics, Chemeng, Maths/data, etc. - over the course of another 3-4 years in terms of employability? Or should one just pursue a masters and study other fields/disciplines in their own time?
>>10309713*Mechatronics undergrad in Australia
>>10293721in that case you have to go back
>>10289102Aerospace engineer here, pick a different field while you have a chance
>>10303462>exhausted in 2nd year of aerospaceYou literally haven't even started the major, though
>>10310209AE sophmore herew-why?
>>10303332Ayyy, QLD?Going into 3rd year of UQ civil this year. From my experience it does get a bit harder but you also get better at studying. It also kinda depends on your major. If you do elec at UQ, you gotta take CSSE2310 which will kick your ass if you don't spend like 10 hours working on the assignments per week.I'm taking Civil which is fairy easy but you can make it harder if you take the right electives.
>>10310209>no jobs>pay isn't good relative to skill level required and job security>no real demand for new commercial plane designs, all market segments have two competitive products >entire sector is propped up by US and European gov'ts, with Chinese and Russian gov'ts also picking up, just because these gov'ts want to be able to manufacture weapons quickly on short notice if war breaks out>all the real (non-military) engineering work is exported to India, western engineers just check their work and pass it along>even if there was a need for a new design, aerospace companies are so risk-averse and profit-driven that they'll take an old design and make as few changes as possible, even if the old design has obvious drawbacks
>>10311288Meant for >>10310268
>>10310209>>10310268>>10311288I mean from what I can tell so far what you described is right if you don't have the right connections. Again I'm still in school so what the fuck do I know, but I've met several engineers (know a guy in Blue Origin, a guy in Boeing, a guy at GM Nameplate that did some aero work, etc...) and they all make it seems like as long as you know the right people you'll be fine. All the AA engineers I've met in real life love it and have made it clear that it's competitive and cutthroat, but again just stand out by getting personal with them and you should be okay as long as you're also able to do the job. In contrast to everything you hear on the internet which is pretty much what you posted. Not trying to discredit your experience with it and it sucks if that's how it's been for you, but knowing people already in the field has kind of eased me as far as all that goes.
>>10311307>he trusts people he knows irl over strangers on the internetAre you new at this? Everyone wants people to think that they work a cool, prestigious job. My irl friends and relatives think I have a great job, and I never talk about the negatives irl. I'll be honest on /sci/, though
lol dude just get a job in formula 1 like lmao
>>10311332Yeah I'm gonna go ahead and go with the guy that could end up landing me a job.
Doing MAE PhD cause internationalI've noticed most engineers are uncultured autists. Wish I'd switch to neuroscience or MBA desu
do i need research experience beyond my master's thesis in order to be admitted to a phd program?
>>10312314No, just a research-based master's will be sufficient.
>>10312404that's a relief. thanks anon.