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ITT: discuss engineering, engineering careers, and whatever engineering projects you're working on
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>Should I go into engineering?
Well, it depends on what reasons you have for considering an engineering subfield.

GOOD reasons:
>I am looking for a challenge
>I already have lots of connections to industry
>I have a good support network that will help me during school/while finding a job

BAD reasons:
>I have delusions about becoming the next Elon Musk ("I want to change the world!")
>I want a high paying job
>I want a low stress work environment
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>How do I get into R&D?
Generally speaking, you will need at least a master's degree if you want to do actual engineering. Though tread carefully: you can just as easily educate yourself out of a job by becoming overqualified. Make sure you have appropriate industry connections and experience before pursuing grad school.
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>My GPA is below a 3.5 and I'm going to graduate without having had multiple internships, what should I do?
It is in your long term best interests to switch majors ASAP if you want to get a job, and the longer you put this off the worse it will get. Although this may feel like failure, consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openings, and you will find greener pastures elsewhere.
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>X major is best because Y!
>X majors can work Z jobs because people who study Z are dumb!
>Studying X is going to make me rich!
>All people who don't study X are stupid!
These are typically posted by high school seniors and college freshman. It's best to disregard posts like this.
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guys, do you think robotics engineering is good as master degree? or should i get into something less specific?
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>>10288313
Masters degrees are gay and retarded unless you want to be a bottom bitch doing R&D and earning literal peanuts
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>>10288313
Great path to take. You can use your skills many places.
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3rd year ME here interested in Aerospace. Going to UCCS and pretty much just need to network so if anyone in the field lives in or around Colorado I'd love to get in touch.
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CS major here. I was interested in getting a job in embedded systems but wasn't sure how the market was like. I've heard there are not many jobs around. Hence why CE's go into software. Is this true? I live near LA If it helps.

Asking cause I was considering taking an embedded systems electives but if the field is pretty small I'd rather not waste my time.
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>>10289169
>CS
>>>/g/
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>>10288153
Wtf is with this >need a GPA 3.5 or above

As along as you have above a 3.0 and some kind of experience you will be fine. This OP needs to be updated to actually reflect reality rather than the fucking memes.
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>>10289526
My school uses a retarded gpa scale. What average% grades do those correspond to?
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>>10289536
3.0 is generally a B, 3.3 is a B+, 3.6 is a A-, and A is a 4.0
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Should I do biomedical engineering, mechanical engineering, electrical engineering, or computer systems engineering?

I plan to do a BME masters after. All I need is a bach choice.
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>>10289626
EE
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>>10289634
y
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>>10289650
Its fun
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tfw 2 more years of college
Power or Communications?
Really want to do DSP, but Power seems like it has more jobs.
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>>10289381
Don't you fags consider embedded systems an engineering field?
Kinda hard to keep up with the autism.
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What is the power levels between engineers

Civil, mechanical, electrical, ect...
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>>10290150
EE, Civil > the rest
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>>10288153
>consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openings
WTF is the OP 15 years outdated or what?
Generally the number of engineers graduating is much lower than what is needed, at least here in the EU.
As long as you know what you are doing you are fine, nobody will look at your GPA at the nterview. Especially if the company has been burned by a perfect GPA special snowflake autismo.
A 3.0 GPA is more than enough, having good social skills and being able to perform in a team is what secures your job.
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>>10290150
Electrical Engineering is the hardest undergrad degree
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>>10289830
CS majors belong in the >>>/g/hetto
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>>10290772
I dunno but I feel like I am dying...
>be me, 30 married
>change careers from physical labour
>get into school for EE
>wife gets pregnant, ohfuck.exe
>get research assistant job to make money while taking a full course load
>daughter born in sophomore year
>she has colic and doesn’t sleep ever
>run pleasedontdiewhiledriving.exe due to not sleeping more that 4 broken hrs a night for a whole year
>survive and land an internship after 3rd year
>...rest
>1 month into internship wife gets pregnant
>ahhhhhh.exe

I am currently in 4th year with 2 kids under 4.
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>>10290804
Use fucking birth control you retard
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WHY WONT GULFSTREAM CALL ME BACK
AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH
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>>10288153
>BAD reasons:
>I want a high paying job
brainlet/leftist with a guilty spirit/lobotomized by the jews
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>>10290730
>consider that the number of engineering graduates greatly exceeds the number of entry level job openings
This is true for niche engineering topics like BioE, Nuclear, ChemE, MatSci, etc. Civil, EE, and Mechanical are fine
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>>10290984
I’m 34 and married. Right age, wrong life situation
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>>10290994
Do you think someone will succeed in engineering if they’re only in it for a high paying job? Would they even get one? I doubt it. You’d need some kind of inspiration to be in this (or any) major and get a good salary.
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>>10291019
So? Just because you are married doesn't mean that having sex always means a new kid.

How about you grow up and become more stable in your life before producing more children?
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>>10291418
You sounds like a kissless fag
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>>10290804
>married at 30 and going to college as a freshman
dude wtf you couldve just gone to trade school to be an electrician and started earning a similar salary as EE, and you wouldve been done like 3 years early.
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>>10289658
Concentrations don't even matter, take the classes that interest you. All the brainlets in EE at my school did power because it's easier and now they work in all kinds of jobs that have nothing to do with power. Meanwhile my wife did signals and now works for the power company designing substations.

>>10290150
Chemical > EE > mechanical > nuclear > civil > the dog shit stuck to my shoe > computer > biomedical > CS majors who think they're engineers > petroleum
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>>10292147
What do you have against computer engies?
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>>10292156
Not him, but EEs are better CEs.
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>>10292156
I was a little harsh, maybe. Some of them are alright, the field itself isn't so bad. It's just that most of the job openings are in software so most of them end up being code monkeys anyway. I would never pick CE over EE.
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>>10290804
kek you're a fucking retarded
don't even know how to prevent a kid
how do u want a major in something so hard?
at least you can dream... oh no, you can't even
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>>10292184
>>10290984
Not the 30 year old boomer. Different Anon here. I hate to use this meme but I think you guys are KHHV wizards. Or more likely, very very young. Women get infected with a virulent strain of baby rabies when they are in their mid to late 20s. Well, it usually starts in the early 20s but if not treated by late 20s, they get crazy.

This dudes wife was probably hounding him at every turn trying to do everything she could to get him to fuck her unprotected. I have sympathy for him but at the same time he royally screwed a lot of things up. Women are kind of retarded and will deliberately try to get pregnant even when they are not in a financially secure position in life.

To use some of the hip slang of this generation, this nibba should've had his parents or wifey's parents help take care of the babby. This nibba shouldve gone to trade school instead of starting a goddam EE BSc at age 30. I feel bad for the 30 year old boomers who enroll as freshman when they have infants to take care of, but at the same time you had other options its not like this was forced on you
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>>10292192
yah
I'm a girl and you're totally right heh
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>>10292208
If youre white, make 5+ white babbys
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I'm planning on going to the KTH in Sweden as an exchange student for one semester. How fucked am I if I don't know any Swedish?
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>>10293438
Try to learn some because it's polite, but when I was in Stockholm most people spoke English. Young people in college especially will probably speak very good English.
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>>10293457
Is Swedish hard to learn?
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>>10291418

>Just because you are married doesn't mean that having sex always means a new kid.

But it should, anon. It should.
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>>10288153
What do you lads think of Mechatronics Engineering?
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>>10293567
It's terrible, just major in ME or EE.
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>>10290150
Physics Engineer > the rest
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>>10292232
im Latina heh
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>>10293630
Seconded, just do me or we as bachelor and do the other as master if you really want the skillset of someone who did mechatronics.
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Any tips for someone who is studying but doesn't really like the vibe of consultancy firms but loves the work they do?
I've done an internship at one of the biggest in my country but didn't like the culture, is it any different at a firm with <100 employees?
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>>10293827
Yes the smaller firms do have a cultural difference than the large firms but things can be a bit more stressful. I prefer working at a smaller firm after working at both.

Individual contracts and billings become a lot more important, losing them can create a lot of stress and people don't always feel safe in terms of employment when it comes to smaller firms.
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>>10293839
Cool, I hadn't really thought about the dependence on securing contracts, sounds like something that's stressful but on the other hand securing contracts will probably also feel more satisfying.
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>>10290150
Biomedical > all
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>>10293853
It is a very rewarding feeling when the firm wins a contract. One of my favorite things about it
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>>10293630
>>10293822
honestly what's so terrible about it? Surely there are a lot more career opportunities than if I were to specialise.
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>>10294019
Because you become an expert of nothing? Electrical is better at electronics, Mechanical is better at everything mechanical, and CS is better at programming. What does Mechatronics give you that makes you superior to the other three?

>But I learn Circuits 1/2, Statics/Dynamics, and control systems
Well you need to know a lot more than that to work in any specific role in Mechatronics position. Sorry I would rather hire the EE for the electronics, an ME to design the mechanics, and a CS person to program my systems/robots.

Mechatronics is a relatively new undergrad degree (it used to only be a graduate degree in the US) and lacks any particular benefit besides dipping you feet into a bunch of different pools.
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>>10294029
is there really no crossover between the jobs though? No scenarios in which having knowledge from multiple branches is more beneficial than specialising in one?
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>>10294038
Those jobs exist but they are not entry level jobs and having a degree for that won't make you qualified. They are system / system integrator engineers and they typically require many years (8+) of experience. Their work also tends to be very high level/ soft technical integration.
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>>10294038
There is, that's why I recommend doing a master in one and a bachelor in the other. But there's no benefit in knowing a bit about everything. Engineering is a specialist job. You only need to understand your project partners not be able to do their job
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>>10294052
>>10294046
Shieeet, well too late now, thanks anyway though lads.
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High school student here, should I go into Engineering or CS if I'm only average at math? I'm more interested in engineering than programming but I also want a decent job, thoughts? Anyone here regret doing Engineering instead of CS?
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>>10294306
Engineering. if you can't find an engineering job you still can get a programming job, you don't need a CS degree to do that.
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>torn between CE and EE
>want to do firmware, operating system design for a career
>if CE I'll almost certainly become a code monkey
>if EE I'll almost certainly become lead barista at starbucks

>really just want to design analog and digital synthesizers
life hurts
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>>10294306
as long as you can do calculus and your algebra is alright you'll make it
all math in engineering is just basic calculus with different costumes on so it seems scary. If you've got good fundamentals in algebra and calc you'll be fine.
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>>10294306
All the memeing about engineering having difficult math is done by brainlets. It's not hard at all provided you're willing to put in the work. It's mostly brute force and repetition (smashing out integrals and differential equations), instead of anything conceptually difficult like analysis.
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>>10293463
i did an exchange in sweden in hs and all the other exchange students (but me) were completely fluent by the years end, im talkin like 30 people
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I do math, which is like engineering for people who have brains
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>>10294702
based
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im seriously thinking about going to CE now. im doing biotechnology but i realized that i dont want this anymore. any advices?
everyone says that CE is one of the most difficult engineering field and above from that there aren`t many jobs for it, at least in my country....
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>>10294334
Take a minor in business/MBA and make the plebs do the work
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>>10294746
CE demand is growing rapidly.
EE has a large amount of overlap (ECE) though and is more widely recognized so that could be a safer bet.
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>>10292147
So how many cocks does she have to suck per day? Asking because im a femmgineer as well and want to fullfill my cock quota before applying for a job.
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>>10294751
It varies by person. Suck mine and I'll be able to tell you
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>>10294750
i never thought about doing EE actually. it just seem so boring
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There are always a ton of EEs on /sci/. What are the most based subdisciplines of EE? Or what field do you work in and do you like it?
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>>10294781
CE is literally mostly EE with some CS
If you think EE is boring you should just take Comp sci instead
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>>10294782
RF by far.
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>>10294787
Other than because you are taking it, what are the reasons?
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>>10294791
It's the most math intensive EE field.
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>>10294795
More than controls or signal processing?
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>>10294795
Sounds like fun. What math subjects are specific to RF?
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>>10294781
>EE is boring meme
How fucking autistic do you have to say this garbage? Do you think you'll be jacking off in your apartment doing thermo/statics homework if you major in Mech Engineering instead?

Engineering is boring. Get over it, you faggot.
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>>10294799
Lots of vector calc, PDE.

To me at least RF seems more physics and Controls and Signal Processing to be more math-like.

What are the career prospects of RF? I know there are a lot of jobs in industrial controls and the most stable is probably power.
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>>10294815
wow are u mad stupid maleneering fag?
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>>10294821
No. That’d be me. And i wasn’t bashing malegineers. Only the competency of women in engineering.
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>>10294799
RF EE makes use of a broad range of mathematical techniques, from linear algebra to vector calculus, from complex variables to nonlinear systems.
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>>10294827
If I enjoyed first year linear algebra would that be a good option or is that too general?
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>>10294821
Picking a major based on what's boring or not is fucking retarded. The classes aren't supposed to be entertaining. Its supposed to be WORK, not a fucking carnival ride.
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>>10294876
Having an interest in the material is powerful intrinsic motivator to learn it.

There are far easier ways to become a menial wage slave than going to University
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>>10294836
Maybe, you'll need way more math than just linear algebra though.
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>>10294879
>Having an interest in the material is powerful intrinsic motivator to learn it.
Motivation is fickle. Discipline is better in every way. Youre just going to crash and burn if you rely on motivation to succeed
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>>10294901
Variables regarding motivation can be directly manipulated and leveraged into habit forming behavior (ie discipline) over time.

If anything telling somebody to just suck it up and do it is far less likely to work
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>>10294910
Actual PEs and EITs work very similar jobs. A systems engineer will work alongside mechanical engineers, who work alongside electrical engineers, who work alongside civil engineers who... etc.

Talk with an EIT or PE one day. Their work is usually interesting and engaging. And if it wasn't they could easily transfer somewhere where they were better suited. Working as a PE or EIT is a totally different experience from earning a degree, however. The fact remains that engineering classes are not intended to be fun. They are academic. If you find academic study to be boring then that's a personal problem. I don't find my classes boring, but I don't find them riveting they. They simply are.

Furthermore you're assuming all EE classes are the same, when you are studying a massively diverse field of study and on top of all of this you can even choose a specialization so you can tailor your classes, e.g. you can study signals, power systems, biomedical, etc etc

Youre just being willfully ignorant and possibly locking yourself out of a very lucrative and easygoing, even fun, career, by simply sticking your nose up because you FEEL like EE is going to be boring. But its your decision to be a dumpass.
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>>10294876
oh yeah now i see where is the mistake.... im a brazilian girl so i just want some degree that looks like a carnival march
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>>10294937
I'm not the original poster you're referring to just a decided to chip in when the comment that engineering isn't supposed to be fun came out.
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>tfw nuclear engineering student in 4th year with 2.7 GPA
lads should i just off myself
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>>10295185
me first
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Hey guys 3rd year Computer Eng. student here. I've failed many times in my Math courses in past 3 years I'm getting close to my 4th year course, can still recover?
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>>10289617
That doesn't fuxking help, retard.
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>>10295439
You can get a degree but you can’t recover your gpa. It is really hard to get an internship with a gpa below 3.0. For a 3.0 you need to know people and hustle, 3.2 you are good for all but the best companies, 3.5 you are golden. And without an internship it is hard to get your first real job.
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>>10295459
thanks for the response.
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>>10295439
Have side projects documented and mention them in your resume. Apply tohundreds of jobs. Sure having a shit gpa will make your life harder, but if you show youre a self starter and can explain how your projects work, you will make a good impression. Its not the end of the world. Even people with high gpa’s struggle to find a job right away. You need stuff that makes your resume stand out projects are one, internehips, club memberships etc...
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Any decent robotics SMEs in the UK ? All the exciting work seems to be US based and Im not sure if i could get a company to sponsor my visa
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>>10295185
yikes
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>>10291225
actuaries hate everything and they make good money
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>>10294334
Where you based in the Netherlands we have a big shortage on EE and it's a good country to be an expat in
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How do you guys organize yourselves with classes, intern and hobbies? I feel that I don't have time for nothing and this is bothering me
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>Studying EE
>Want to be that one engineer that actually knows math and how to write good code
>Get completely blasted in the ass by the insane workload in analog circuit subjects
>No time for math or programming
A-at least I can design an audio amplifier, right guys?
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Has anyone here stuided/practiced TRIZ? Is it just a meme or does it actually help with innovating solutions?
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>>10296250
You feel like you don't have time for nothing? Unless you're spending every waking minute working towards advancing your engineering knowledge I doubt lack of time is the issue. Stop wasting so much of your life on mindless entertainment and do shit to improve your situation in the real world.
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>>10294029
This dude is a meme and a ratard

>>10294038
Mechatronics is designed to throw you into the deep end of many pools, but you don't fuck around, you just replace the deeper parts of each degree with more practical courses.
Like, electrical physics and quantum mechanics is replaced with embedded software courses, you replace thermomechanics and deeper fluid mechanics of mechanical with more control theory and state space modelling, you replace software architecture and algorithm courses with more low-level embedded and hardware interface.

The natural state of all things is not to work, mechatronics attempts to generalise the control of phenomena across multiple types of process. "Make it work, make it pretty." That is what you get deeply into; not stressing over milograms of coolant in a refrigerator.

>t. Done mechanical and mechatronics separately
I lauf and lauf at sperglectricals and memechanicals who can't code for shit, and at software engineers who don't know what torque is
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>>10296761
which dd you do for undergrad and which did you do for graduate school?
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>>10296261
Why didn't you take ECE then?
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>>10296977
I did both for undergrad. In Australia both degrees are 4 years each full time, so there's very little reason to go back for masters unless an employee wants to put you through it for a specific purpose like business
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>>10296761
I don't know what your curriculum looks like in fucking upside down land but in USA the curriculum I described is accurate. In fact everything I wrote is accurate when it comes to the United States.
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>>10297075
Learn to read sperg, >>10297031
So the problem is the programs in the country? Because they're 3 years from memory, and you pay like 50-100k right? Ofc you can't be trained in 3 years, no reason to chase a master's or anything, if you aren't useful after an undergrad degree a master's will do nothing for you lmao do you guys have electives?
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Hi EE's do you think power or controls is a better career choice? I know I prefer analog to digital but I don't mind some coding and Matlab. RF is awesome but there are no jobs in Canada, I dunno about the effect 5G will have


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>>10297227
controls. power is the most brainlet EE subfield.
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>>10297233
Yes but the pay is good, it is stable, and it is heavily aged with a huge portion of the staff nearing retirement. I hope the boredom doesn't kill me but there are SCADA controls in the smart grid applications. I just don't know how math intensive this is and I have strong math skills (for an EE)
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>>10297173
I know you did an undergrad degree in two things separately. What is your point you fucking aussie? I am telling you the undergrad mechatronics is a meme degree in the US.
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>>10294626
Currently taking computer science, so do you guys not do any proofs e.g. induction, contradiction, etc., or is that different from analysis
I’m a freshman btw
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>>10297331
>Currently taking computer science
See >>10290776
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>>10297339
I was merely asking a question. I don’t you all get so worked up about it. Isn’t that what this place is for
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>>10297395
CS gets hot and heavy bantz here for not being “sciency” enough, it is a joke... sort of... maybe
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>>10288153
this general info is seriously biased and fucking stupid.
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>>10292147
>butthurt he didnt get into Texas A&M petroleum
stay mad
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>>10293630
this, pick a engineering that has been around for awhile, you can always get a masters or take classes later on in life.
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>>10294784
my school is 60% cs and 40% EE
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>>10294782
Power, or anything that is mostly analog work

digital fags can suck it
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>>10295185
not gonna lie, its not fantastic.

If you are american join the navy, im not even joking. You will get paid and get some work experience. If you become an officer (which you should considering you have a college degree) it looks great on a resume.

Dude im not kidding you one bit, considering becoming an officer in the navy.
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>>10296980
Not him but the licensure exam gonna mess myself up.
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>>10297240
>>10297233
isnt there a growing demand to innovate with new technologies?
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Is hardware description (FPGA/ASIC) lucrative as an EE specialization?
I really excel in those courses, but it seems to me that analog electronics is tougher and more in demand
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>>10296250
Same. When school starts, i already know I’m going to be loaded with work and studying, I have no idea when i’m going to have time to go out or do my hobbies, but thats just life. Just gotta go with the flow
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>>10290984
kys
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>>10288153
Anyone specilizing in fluids/heat transfer/CFD?

If you have started working, how do you like the job? Are you happy with it or wish you had chosen a different area? Anything else you can think of related to it.
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i'm thinking of doing a couple of arduino based projects to add to my resume. I am EE major, but want to go into software or some sort microcontroller field. Would these make my resume look better? Thinking of doing some simple ones like an AM signal transmitter and maybe doing like a robot hand with a couple of servos to move around the fingers. I was thinking of maybe doing something with a biomedical sensors like light up led's when the sensor detect voltage through parts of your skin, but I'm not sure. Feels like a super simple project, but I want to make it do more... just not sure what.
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>>10297233
Power has more demand than all of the other EE subfields together. Power has a lot of subfields as well, it can be as brainlet as you make it.
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>>10297993
It really does depend on the project. In general I'm not really very impressed with Arduino projects because of how large the library is, and for any module there exists a library that makes the code simple as shit.
If you in your project write your own libraries or access the hardware in a more direct way than is typical for Arduino code then that would definitely be a plus, though.
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>>10298018
>because of how large the library is, and for any module there exists a library that makes the code simple as shit.
Don't you have any CS friends? Everybody working in software engineering uses any library. Obviously you need to understand it, but there is no reason to write everything from scratch.
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>>10298024
Yes, obviously, but the problem with that mentality is that those community libraries are defined for consumer/hobby grade electronics. In a work environment you're expected to know how to write drivers for any hardware that you can then pass on to the CS guys. Knowing how the code relates to the hardware is the bread and butter of embedded software engineers.
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>>10298026
Any book recommendation for that? I know some C and Python
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>>10297993
You should and use libraries for the first couple so you understand what you are doing and to give you an idea of how stuff should look like. Then you can venture into >>10298018 and doing things from scratch.
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Digital communication exam in 1 week
Why is this shit so difficult?
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>>10298018
Arduino has never really attracted my attention to be honest, but at this point I'd like to add projects to make my resume have engineering stuff on it and not just be a blank page. The intro to microconrollers class I took a year ago, we used a TI launchpad. It was alright using it and it definitely required more in depth knowledge than an arduino project. I might just use that since it's all in C anyway.

Do you have any recommendations on projects to add to a resume. I'm just trying to start off light and understand the depth of the code I use, but also document the process explaining how the projects work from the wiring to the coding aspect etc...
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>>10297806
Way different herein Canada. There are always digital jobs but no analog. I prefer analog
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>>10292147
90% of chemE majors are suicidal by junior year after realizing they should have majored in EE/compE/CS.

where the jobs at nigga
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Signals and Systems exam on Thursday lads I'm fucking bricking it
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>>10298184
I'm a process engineer now, my friends have all kinds of jobs. There's definitely jobs.
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>>10298035
compilers are the bridge between the hardware and software. Read the dragon book. and books on operating systems
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>>10289526
>3.5 is required for any top tier entry level position. If your GPA is lower you should switch majors
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>>10298345
Do you mean the wizard book?
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>>10298431
https://www.amazon.com/Compilers-Principles-Techniques-Tools-2nd/dp/0321486811
>>10298370
https://www.spacex.com/internships look at the GPA requirement.
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Is it typical at most universities to do two years of general undergraduate study and then submit an application to join your major? But where major admissions are competitive and they end up rejecting 85% of people even though they've wasted two years studying at that school already? Are all schools like this?
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>>10288153
>>10288153
>>I have delusions about becoming the next Elon Musk ("I want to change the world!")

How is that a bad reason? That means you have great passion and motivation. You will be less likely to fail your classes and drop out
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>>10298804
>You will be less likely to fail your classes and drop out
No, that's what exactly what it means. You are totally disconnected from the realities of engineering and unprepared for what will come in your coursework and on the job. It means you're destined to be a big fuckup.
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>>10298531
>tfw 3.44
I don't want to work at SpaceX anyways.
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>>10297625
Yes, join the navy so china can have some target practice with their new railgun.
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>>10297625
Not him (just a regular Mech E), but what sort of people do they hire to work on the nuclear reactors? Also do I need to pass a health screen?
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How does grading in USA work in practice? I've heard that an american A+ is like a European A, but then I've also heard that A+ is like >97% in which case it doesn't apply because A in Europe is typically somewhere above 90-92%.
At the same time, I don't understand how 4.0 GPA seems so common when Americans talk about GPA. Surely having A as your average grade would place you in like the top 1st percentile?
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>>10298917
>Surely having A as your average grade would place you in like the top 1st percentile?
It does, but most Americans get shafted because companies only hire the top 10%. Essentially it's a form of selection bias.
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>>10290150
aerospace > physics > electrical > mechanical > mining > maritime > math > civil > computer > nanobiology > biomedical > molecular chemistry > celular chemistry >>> industrial design > architecture > management

t. TU Delft
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>>10290804
congrats on procreating, anon
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>>10298967
which should i pick
physics engineering or math engineering
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>>10298974
Depends on what you want anon.
>real life applications vs. academic black belt
>career after studies in academia or industry
>what kind of work do you want to do
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>>10298974
I would pick physics though
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>>10298900
I'm not the guy to ask this as I have no military experience, however I did a ton of research on the topic in high school cause I was considering military service. The best thing you can do is read the us navy website and just talk to people on /k/ (they usually have and enlistment general)

And yes you will go through a health screening, you are joining the us military, that's a no brainer.

They will technically train both enlisted and officers to handle their tasks from the ground up. However they really want officers to have college degrees in technical backgrounds, so a mech degree should give you a high chance of being accepted into the officer training program.
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Just got hired for a logistics and sustainment engineering role at a defense contractor. I graduated with a mech eng. degree and they knew that during the interview. I told them I never did any logistics work but I also did a good job at explaining how projects I worked on during school gave me some experience towards it.

I got the job and I'm scared I won't know what the fuck I am doing. They're gonna give me some kinda training right? They mentioned "on the job training" but that was it. I don't wanna go in like a retard and not know what the fuck I am doing and get fired.
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>>10299577
I have this same fear, but has anyone ever gotten hired, and than fired within their first 3 months.
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>>10299577
They probably expect you to not know shit about industry or your specific field just like every other new graduate. You'll be fine, it takes everyone like 6 months to a year to start becoming actually useful at their first job.
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Any mech bros here tonight

My semester just started and I'm pretty excited for it.
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How is the job market for photonics/nano/optoelectronics EE? Should I do masters?
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>>10298226
same, am also process engineer.

what industry do you work in?
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>>10298967
This is for difficulty but certain not job outlook. Engineering physics is amazing but you are truly the master of none
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I have a math degree with data science electives and marketing degree as well. My mother claims my older brother who is a EE had more math then me. I think she is wrong because the engineers I talk to dont understand how to do math and rely on maple.
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>>10300312
>useless bachelors
>mother doesn't love you
>jealous of engineers
Here's a sympathy (You)
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>>10300312
>maple
the absolute state of USA
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>>10300289
Yes although difficulty adds to the reputation of the degree which makes you land any non-niche job easier. In Delft at least aerospace and physics departments are prime hunting grounds for strategy consultants and banks for example.

The starting salaries would look like:
mining > maritime > aerospace > electrical > computer > more or less everything else > management >>> architecture
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I'm 18 and I have a couple questions:

I have very little interest in working as an engineer but I like math quite a bit and I find business to be a useless and unchallanging undergrad. Is that a good enough reason to study engineering(CSE CE or EE) in undergrad?

>something to split the two questions up

Is it better to study CSE in Austria Hungary or Germany? Both Austria and Germany would give me a 10-20k-ish debt but here in Hungary I could live at home 3 minutes from campus. I definetly want to move to Germany or Austria for work later on, which one is a better choice?

Is CS or CSE better if I'm more interested in programming?
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Can someone please weigh in on this? >>10298800
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Mechanical engineering student, specialization in robotics and mechatronics, just finished undergrad and took cybernetics as grad elective.

Doing good so far, had no problem with subjects (except machine elements, that shit came out of satan's herpes riddled crotch).

Asking for advice on two things.
>1. Should I go for a doctorate or look for a career after Masters degree?
>2. Do you recommend getting a physics/math Masters after graduating? As in will it help with R&D in the field of robotics, mechatronics and cybernetics?
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Why are engineering textbooks so informal?
The one I'm reading about small signal audio just quoted Mr. Spock
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>>10298800
AFAIK You get 3 years of undergrad, and choose your specialization in the third semester (2nd year). That's how it's structured in my uni and probably a lot of others in Europe.

And of course popular majors/specializations will be the most competitive. But that doesn't mean you wasted jack shit. Simply take another major, switch faculties (i.e. EE to CE) and you're in business. As cheesy as it fucking sounds, the old adage of "If you love it, you'll enjoy it" rings true for engineering. Hell, you even have more experience after switching and you're immediately in front of the herd. In my uni it's kinda a tradition if you fail to get accepted in a popular major, you either take another major and audit the desired one, or just switch to a faculty with similar majors and roflstomp it with your already acquired knowledge.
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>>10300760
If you are more interested in programming CS obviously
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How important is it to be enthusiastic and happy when finding a job as a computer engineer? I'm depressed (like doctor depressed, even got the diagnosis unspecified bipolar disorder but the healthcare system is so awful they couldn't even properly diagnose me (i dont get any manic states, only depressed, hence im not bipolar), which is why i got no help) and are forcing myself to get my studies done so that i can get a job which ensures i have a roof over my head and food on my table. But it's rather hard to be social and happy about things since i just dont care about anything anymore, I just want to survive. Do i have to continue faking happiness and enthusiasm in order to get hired or can I finally be truthful since I finally have educational leverage?
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>>10300804
Are you complaining that your books aren't dry?
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>>10300804
Because if you're dealing with abstract concepts and mathematical notation you don't want to burn your mental energy in understanding the book's writing style as well as the concepts it's supposed to be explaining.

Leave it to the people in the arts and humanities to use unnecessarily elaborate and formal language to pretend like they're doing serious academic business.
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>>10298967
why do I keep seeing the same names over and over in these types of communities? Also, why is molecular/cellular chemistry a type of chemistry?
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>>10302948
A type of *engineering*, I can't word today, it''s past my bedtime
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Why would wanting more money be a bad reason to get into an engineering degree?
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>>10303188
the job market is flooded.
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>>10298190
in signals and systems right now anon, i feel you pain
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>>10298226
>process engineer
a fancy title for someone who draws arrows everywhere
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In Australia, got through 1st year engineering which covered statics and dynamics, electrical circuits and programming and process engineering. It also covered basically up to high school maths b (calculus and shit) and maths c (matrices and infinite series). I have a GPA of about 5.3 (4 is P, 5 is C, 6 is D, and 7 is HD. I feel retarded but at the same time I think I would do better if I could just get into studying. I never studied in high school and now it's kicking my ass in Uni. What do I do? Does it get exponentially harder through the years or is it fairly linear?
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is being a scientist actually a more respected profession than being an engineer?
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>>10303340
You can be a gender scientist, but you can't be a gender engineer.

So no, it's not.
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>>10303342
fair enough
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>>10303342
Just you wait. I guarantee some cunt is going to invent that in the next few years. Everyone will have designer genders "engineered" by gender "engineers".
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Is it true that connections are more important than grades? Surely if you go on a University sponsored tour and talk with the manager of some power plant (talking of electrical engineering here, obviously) they would be more interested in hiring you, even if you only had fairly average grades around a credit or distinction, than someone who just studies all day and has never interacted with people outside of Uni before. We have Industry nights at our Uni once a semester where different companies which need various majors talk about their business and the people who attend ask them questions and drink free beer. Seems like chatting them up is infinitely more valuable than a number on your certificate. Also getting involved with your Uni's clubs.
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My exams start in 2 weeks and I didn’t bother to learn anything also wasn’t in uni for 2 months. How can I efficiently finesse the faggots? Especially chemistry, I don’t know shit. 1st semester tho
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>>10303389
Give up you lazy retard.
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>>10303391
nah. Engineering isn’t that hard at all. Also even when I fail, I’m young. Don’t act like a genius faggot engineers are everywhere they aren’t that smart
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>>10303417
>wasting the best years of your life and the prosperity of your future on failing "easy" courses
Okay retard.
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>>10288153
Environmental engineering
Any thoughts on this?
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>>10303431
That's a fancy but easy minor to put on your resume, anyone who tells you otherwise is retarded or trying to rip you off.
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>>10303430
Who said that I’ll fail brainlet? Just because it’s a pain in your faggotass, doesn’t mean it has to be for everyone.
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i'm in my 2nd year of aerospace.. i'm always so exhausted my brain can't even comprehend my own tiredness and so it just keeps going.. and going and going.. and it never stops...

only do it if you absolutely love it
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>>10303460
>even when I fail
>who said that I'll fail
You're so brainlet you can't even keep a track of what you're saying. Either that or you don't understand English. Sad!
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>>10303462
bad advice.
How do you know you (don’t) love it if you never did it?
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>>10303471
English isn’t my first language. Brainlet I mean that even when I fail it’s not like the world would end but who the fuck says that I’ll fail. It’s just a hypothetical when
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>>10303431
It's a great major that is sure to keep growing in the future, but be sure that you actually care about understansing the environment and you're not just doing it for the money.
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>>10303480
Not it isn't you retard. If it was hypothetical you would use the word 'if' not 'when'. Even people with English as their second language would understand that difference.
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>>10298146
A fun one is an inverted pendulum robot, make a RC Segway
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>>10303386
Good marks give you the opportunity to make contacts,
Contacts hire you, not jobs.
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>>10303489
But it’s my third language. Checkmate, atheist.
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>>10303497
I mean, not really. It's the initiative and sociability of the person which allows them to make contacts. Anyone can come to these industry nights for free, but out of 1st year class of maybe 120 or so people, only about 10-20 showed up. Anyone can stalk some CEOs and find out where they hang out to "bump" into them but not many people do that. I would say it's all about initiative.
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>>10303517
Yeah look none of what you said is wrong but good marks is an indication you've learnt your stuff, which can mean performing well/general high opinion of ya,
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>>10298967
My uni is offering an exchange to Delft, is it worth going?
I'm half Dutch and speak it fluently so I don't really care much about the English courses (although it's a bit rusty, my Dutch)
What do they offer than my university doesn't have?
(University of Canterbury)
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>>10288153
anyone /biotech/ in here. I was working for a company and was giving them my blood so we didn't have to buy it, along with a couple other people, but I ended up getting fired for some bullshit and never got payed for my blood. They were friends of the family so I thought they'd come through but they are just ignoring me, is there anything I can do? or who should I get in contact with to move against them.
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>>10303548
talk to a lawyer
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>>10303553
You think that's worth it? Its less than 10 grand worth of blood. I mainly just want to see them get hit by a regulatory body, you think a lawyer would take it on without me paying?
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>>10303559
>>10303553
For research they would have to have information on who's blood it was, if they agreed to pay you beforehand than they either did blood testing from an unknown source or used your blood without paying you,
The lawyer would charge some percentage
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>>10303541
>UK
Was that a rhetorical question? Also get an EU citizenship while you're there, just for lolxit
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>>10303564
Canterbury as in New Zealand, mate.
I've got my Dutch passport so it wouldn't be hard. I could live with my uncle and aunt in Groningen. How long/expensive would it be to bus there and back?
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>>10303563
thanks.
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>>10303563
Couldn't you just sue for lawyer fees as well considering they're the ones who refused to honor the contract.
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>>10303568
Ah. Still I would go, see the world while you're young, get some connections you wouldn't be able to get while staying in your upside down shoe
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>>10303573
I guess your right, I'm just not a hopeful person and they are really underhanded shitty people. Hint this also involves invoices they backdated, but I know where to send those.
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>>10303323
You're thinking of the kind of process engineer that works for an EPC and does purely design work. I'm the type of process engineer that works at a chemical plant.
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>>10303332
It does get harder, but so can you.
https://warosu.org/sci/thread/S10302580#p10303100
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>>10303389
just watch some lectures at 2x speed on whatever the syllabus covers.
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>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_engineering
is this a meme degree? what's the difference with classic EE?



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