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Let's design together.

Attached is Lang's Origami Design Secrets to get us started. Feel free to ask any questions about it and designing. Some ideas for what to post:
>any helpful design tips?
>any helpful references for designing?
>share your designs!
>share your own tutorial!
I just skimmed through the book, I remember reading most of it a while ago. It's good for the technical side of designing, so we'll likely have to do most of the practical side by creating our own exercises.
>any helpful design tips?

If everyone is going to go off of the book, the first thing I would say is read up to chapter four first and foremost. I know most people are familiar with the material, but there a few points that are important to note.

Pay attention to the names and motions that each particular technique has. The more familiar you are with what something is called and how it works, the more likely you can recognize it in other's work and utilize it for your own.

Another important thing to remember is that even the traditional bases are made of simpler parts. Lang shows that a bisected petal fold is actually two rabbit ears together, as well as how the most complex iterations of traditional bases are an assortment of simpler bases and techniques. Lang does a good job at building upon his previous chapters, so if you skip over these assuming you already know it all, you'll have a hard time later.
Finally (I know I've been rambling), I thought of a couple exercises people could do if they're interested.

1. Edit a traditional model. I know this sounds complicated, but I don't mean make huge changes. Just something small, perhaps make the frog's legs thicker, change the crane's tail, something about the traditional models you think could use improvement.

2. Try and make a simple part of something on your own. It can be a face, body parts, the bottom half of a snake, etc. I don't care, just find a part of something you think you can make and try it. One of the major hurdles in origami is seeing everything together and thinking "how is that made out of one sheet?!" when in reality, it's all simpler parts put together.
You keep ignoring the subject about diagramming some of your earlier models that we keep asking about. Why is that?
Not Nepafarius, but why should he diagram earlier models for you guys?

I myself have some early models I made that I have either long lost the instructions I made for, or I have zero interest in diagramming because diagramming takes /a lot/ of work. Stop harassing people to do favours for you.
"Not Nepafarius", mind your own business. Didn't ask you for your input.
But you are posting about it on a public forum. So good luck "private messaging" Nepafarius on 4chan. ;D
Nepafarius can answer for himself if he does or doesn't want to diagram any more of his models.
Posting a statement on a public forum doesn't give you the right to answer for someone else if it's not directed toward you personally.
It's true, I can't answer for him. Though I can point out that it's obvious he doesn't want to give you a leafy sea dragon diagram. xDDD
Let's try and keep threads on-topic after this, shall we?

And if you want an answer, here it is.

1. I don't remember how to fold the model, mainly because

2. I wasn't satisfied with the model and wanted to fix it, evidenced by

3. The post (which I dug through the archive to read) which does not say I will diagram this model, but rather that I was trying something else and it might take a while. I tried new ideas, failed them all and moved on, as evidenced by the other models that have come out since.

I'm still trying to make headway on a few new designs, possibly including a leafy sea dragon. But it won't be anything like the original pictures.

I'm sorry you might have misinterpreted my words as an inevitability, and I don't like disappointing people so I didn't respond. I always don't like people spewing invectives on an otherwise peaceful thread, so I tried to ignore it and move on.

As this is a design thread, it's also the perfect opportunity for you to make this model yourself. I do remember the base is a blintzed fish base, for which the instructions are online. After that it is just figuring out where the points go, which is pretty in line with this thread
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Designed this recently, not that happy with the process but I'm pretty happy with the result.
What the hell is it?
Pikachu with a toupée.
What a shitty dragon.
Hahaha, now another artist is hazed into /po/ society!

I'm in the middle of designing my newest model, and hopefully I can finish it before long. I'm going to take pictures of the failures and new ideas to show the process I went through to make it, and without spoiling too much, how easy it is to stumble upon a new idea while folding.
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Here's my newest model, a standing lion. I'll be posting my design process in the next couple days.
Not as cool as your leafy sea dragon was, but it's ok. Wouldn't want the diagrams for it, though.
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So this is going to be a lot of posts at once, and it's NOT instructions for the model, but it is however a bit of the design process for my latest model.

So I wanted to make a cat, so I kinda drew what I wanted
I wanted something utilizing a similar idea to the traditional cat face
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Like so
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However I wanted to upgrade the mouth primarily
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I tried using different simple bases to ONLY make the head. This is why I suggested to make a part of something as an exercise, it makes Frankensteining pieces together easier if you doodle like I do

So I tried the fish base, and didn't like the nose or ears, and lacked a lot of leeway in regards to paper to graft this onto.
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I tried a bird base, and while I don't hate the aesthetic of this head, I didn't know what to do with it
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I tried using a waterbomb base and sinking the sides, and it worked fairly well. I got the mouth I wanted, and I could make ears with the square folded top

However, there were glaring issues. The ears in particular. I tried several techniques to alleviate the thickness of the paper, but it still tore often. On top of that the mouth was fused to the arms, and attempting to separate enough paper to create even semi separated limbs was a nightmare.
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I finally decided to use a modified preliminary fold as shown
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Sinking the sides and folding down reveals to right isosceles flaps. Sinking the top will give me a squared flap to make the ears and the bottom flap can give me the nose and mouth I wanted originally.
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I also have three additional flaps for the lower mouth and whiskers.
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Putting everything together gave me a face I quite liked. It didn't look like the cat i had envisioned, and seeing the shape around the head gave me a new idea for this model
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I tried to make the mane with a petal fold and tried utilizing the two adjacent corners to no avail
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I also tried different proportions for the body:head ratio.
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I finally settled on one third for the head, with the adjacent corners folded in
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I also decided to double sink the sides instead of using a petal fold for the mane
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The body is rather simple, its a frog base for the front, and a bird base for the back. This limits the separation of the limbs, but that is fine since I had decided to have the model sitting
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Looking at the back of the model, you can see the back flap. It's actually too long for how the legs will be
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I was able to stretch the flap down and level everything out
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Now you'll notice these legs are not the same length in the front, this gave me grief for so long. Then I realized I had paper I wasn't using tucked inside the model.

So I went back to a previous step and took out the necessary paper, as shown in one of the arms
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Sorry i phrased that last post wrong. What gave me grief was the fact that the legs weren't long enough

Here is the previous step with the alterations
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So with the model finalized I'll show you a few other points. Here is under the feet. The extra length of the front legs actually changed the direction I was taking to get an interesting shape. You can see where i folded and lifted to make the paws
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Also here is a back shot showing how the mane was pulled out and the back legs reset
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Finally, not really a design comment, but photography. I don't know why, but for some reason the face seems larger than it is in reality, and the mane looks different as well. Cant tell if it's a lighting problem, an aspect ratio issue, or my shit phone camera.

So I hope that was mildly helpful, or at least slightly revealing about how someone who might be interested in designing can get rolling.
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See this photo shows the mane a bit better, but the face still looks a bit large compared to what Im looking at
Are you the same guy who complains in the pdf share threads about people asking for books?

It's just that you act the same way where you have to respond to every message, even if they BTFO you. Moreover, they are significantly lack luster replies like "smart ass" or "you asshole" or something like that.
Are you the same dumb-ass who keeps asking for books prematurely or are less than a week old in publication?
No, I am not. This was my first time posting.

Though I take it that you answered in the affirmative just now, so thank you.
This is a very nice lion. Maybe you should try taking the picture from a little less close (make a little scene with other animals !) and the proportions won't seem so off to you.

In any case I really appreciate to see the process.
Thank you! I think it's a lighting issue, but I'm starting to warm up to the image, since big cats do have fatter heads than you'd think. I have a couple ideas for set pieces including the lion, but I don't want to say to much in case it falls through.

And I'm glad you liked seeing the design trial and error process. If I can help people who want to make there own models in any way I can, I'm happy to do it.
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Used the same base as the lion to make a wolf. I'll show how I altered it later

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