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what do you think about making sculptures out of aluminum foil?
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>>544301
those are cool, though plain aluminum foil isn't the best looking stuf.

Do you know how they are made ? If they are made of only one rectangular sheet of aluminum foil well that mean technically they're as much origami as any other origami model.
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>>544308
>>they're as much origami as any other origami model.

...except for the gami-part
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>>544310
>...except for the gami-part

Well what is paper in origami, and what isn't ? tissue foil is concidered paper. If half metal half vegetal fiber is considered paper why not full metal ?.

You could obtain the same results with tissue foil instead of plain foil, would it be origami for you then ?
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>>544312
I think that is not folding xD, it's just like foil was clay
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>cat starts whimpering and runs out of room whenever I mess around with aluminum foil
>look it up
>the sound of the metal scraping is in the ultrasonic range and is apparently so deafening and horrible it can cause seizures in older cats
and thats when I started origami
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>>544330
some wet folding is like this
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>>544301
/po/ is for paper and paper accessories only
Beat it nerd
Before we beat you
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>>544310
It is possible to make origami out of tinfoil, but because it's so thin and holds any crease you put in it, it's rather difficult.
That said, I did once succeed in folding a semi-elaborate tinfoil swan.
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>>544331
That is interesting to know. I've had my cat for a while now, he's probably nearing 5 years old and I just got a kitten last month. The two get along but the kitten always wants to play with something and the older cat doesn't feel like dealing with that shit so sometimes when I'm done playing with the kitten I'll make him a little ball out of aluminum foil and let him play with that. I've never noticed the older cat's reaction but now I think I'll stop with that just in case. The last thing I need is a cat seizing in the kitchen
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>>544312
You annoy the fuck out of me. I like making things similar to what OP does, hell this is literally one of the common steps for making clay sculptures and people use aluminum foil and hot glue to make figures. But this is absolutely not in any way origami. Origami is the act of folding a single square of paper into a design without the use of cuts, tape/glue and all fold done can be simplified to combinations of 4 folds (mountain, valley, inside & outside reverse folds). Wet folding is a variant which does not add any physical medium to the finished product and foil-paper still abides by the same rules as traditional origami. crumpling a piece of paper isn't origami, crumpling and shaping foil isn't origami. Just because you like origami and you like X doesn't mean X is origami.

>>544301
OP you're stuff is fine, I'd suggest finding tutorials on sculpting to add clay/epoxy layers over those to make them permanent and have better detail. Also since there is no miscellaneous art board here I support this thread being in /po even if it's not papercraft or origami (read sod off nerd>>544338 )
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>>545080
>Origami is the act of folding a single square of paper into a design without the use of cuts, tape/glue

This is /a/ definition of origami, the one you like (obviously!), but it doesn't mean this is the one and only way to define origami.
Until before mid-20th century, origami in Japan widely contained cuts and used rectangles.
You are using the "purist", modern definition of origami.

What about bill-folding (non-square rectangles) and other shapes folding (pentagons, triangles, ...)?
(Do you know of the "traditional" origami in Europe, using rectangles for hats, boats, planes, ...?)
What about tea-bag pack folding?
What about modular? Not a "single square of paper" either...
And crumpling techniques are also accepted as origami (even if this is indeed more controversial ^^).

Also:
>all fold done can be simplified to combinations of 4 folds
If you want to go this way, there is only one fold (mountain and valley are the same when you flip the paper), and many combinations of it (what about sink/unsink, (spread) squash, swivel, etc?)

Anyway, whatever float your (paper) boat is fine.
Many definitions of origami (there is no Truth!) are OK, and the important is that we can fold however and whatever we like.
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>>545080
heh that's funny cause i made this flowchart ! (But i should change "paper" in "paper or cardboard")

But i wasn't trying to annoy you, it was just completely hypothetical/philosophical. I know including this into origami is a bit artificial and it's closer to sclutping than traditional origami.
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I would say that if you're folding distinctly it's origami, but if you're just kinda crumpling it like in that image it is more a sculpting/claylike thing than tru origami.
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>>545100
This all the way. I hate paper nazis trying to enforce rules on a hobby/art. Especially when it isn't because they think cuts and glue compromise the beauty and integrity of the design, they're just too lazy to get tools.
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>>545127
it's kinda hard to create figures by folding aluminum foil, it's too thin
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>>544338
Fuck off you purest elitist. /po/ is for people who like fun so you should leave.
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I have done it before. It gets pretty hard and might take some practice though. But it is still a great hobby.
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>>546031
>/po/ is for people who like fun

/po/ is for people who like fun with paper. Your particular type of "fun" is not welcome here friend.
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>>545100
he can look into vincent floderer to see crumpled origami, so yeah, crumpled foil would go in origami, thoki yenn had a diagram where you could judge just how far you´re willing to go before you stop calling it origami, maybe it was in an old BOS booklet
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>>546532
not thoki yenn, but john smith, I found the page for you http://www.britishorigami.info/academic/jonsmif.php
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>>545100
Origami =/= kirigami

origami doesn't contain cuts
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I often use tin foil for practicing bc I don't have access to a lot of paper that is large/thin enough. I think that as long as you could've made it out of paper you're fine.
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>>546343
/po/ is starting to look like /pol/
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This thread spooked me good.
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>>544729
From /pol/ here

Do you do hats?
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>>547485
why?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Ye2Jd8u3M

Tin foil can be better than paper when trying to make some things, like a rose for example.
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>>544301
I don't think it looks good when you scrunch it up. If you take the time and make it similar to typical papercraft, I'm sure it would look a lot better.
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>>548491
It's not impossible to make origami figurines out of aluminum foil, you can do things like you a hot iron to smooth out the surface, and avoid crinkles.

I've seen some seriously impressive pieces made out of aluminum foil, which says a lot because it's harder to make good looking origami out of aluminum foil, as apposed to paper.
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>>548927
Since you posted the pic, here's the instructions for anyone that wants it
http://bladerunnerunicorn.com/_bladerunnerunicorn.com.html
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>>549024
Oh nice! I wonder if you can create a metropolis figure with tin foil, that would be so cool.
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>>548479
that's amazing, thanks for sharing
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>>548927
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>>544310

And the oru part. If this qualifies as folding, so does crumpling up a piece of paper into a ball.
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>>549802
Don't you know about Jeremy Shafer's origami monolithic rubblestone boulder?
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>>549860
kek
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the amount of autism on this thread is unprecedented.

admittedly i don't spend much time on /po, but this shit is shocking.
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>>546742
My idea of fun is painting minifigures. Can I start making threads here
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>>550260
As long as your minifigures are made of paper (/po/ being about Papercraft and Origami), it should be OK.
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>>550254
Thanks, now I have to re-watch Akira...
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>>550352
Akira is pretty shit desu
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>>551404
TETSUOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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>Papercraft and Origami

Wait, so all this argument about what is and is not origami only applies to a subset of what this board is about? Something could NOT be origami and still be on topic?

Cool.
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>>551417
Welcome to /po/ faggot
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>>551417
That's where the P in /po/ comes in Papercraft and Origami
P for Papercraft
O for Origami
/po/
Get it?
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>>551448
Lol
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>>544301
>Not paper
>No folding
>Sculpting
Get out. Kindly.
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>>552668
>sculpting

what? how the hell is it sculpting, maybe you need to iron out the dents, but you're still folding. it's origami.
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>>551417
do you have a higher-res of your pic?
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>>553497
nvm, found what I wanted
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>>544301
it's not bloody papercraft
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>>553509
t. brainlet
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>>552668
>>Sculpting
You called?
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>>544301
Used to do this all the time with my packed lunch foil, but since I couldn't pack it well because all it covered was a soggy sandwich my mom made, the best I could muster was scorpions and shit where I could just pack it all into one area
I tried with dragons but the wings were too flimsy since they were only one layer anyways
I would sell them for 25 cents until some bitch bought one, returned it the next day because her dad called her stupid, and demanded 50 cents because of interest rates or some shit
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>>552668
>Get out
And go where?
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>>554427
/alu/ - aluminum foil
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bump
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>>556014
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Might as well make it paper mache
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THIS THREAD IS FROM OVER A YEAR AGO!
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>>556805
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>>556014
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>>557749
gonna be 2 years in 2 days
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>>544301

Holy fuck this thread is 2 years old what the fuck /pol/
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>>559758
>/pol/
>>546533
There’s no diagram there.
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>>559758
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>>559758
So /po/ is the real redpill?
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>>559797
/po/ is the true source of 4chan's power
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>>559799
Origami war when?
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i suck the biggest nigger cock
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>>559820
cool
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You guys planning to have the oldest thread in 4chan? Also greetings from /pol/
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>>544301
this is so bullshit. Do you think when moot made this board and called it papercraft and origami he meant papercraft and papercraft. no dipshits he meant paper craft and other folded materials
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>>560065
literally my intentions from day 1

600 days here we come
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>>554375
That's still papercraft
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>>554426
Hahaha did you actually give her 50 cents
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bump
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>>544301
I saw this at an expo some months ago.
They were all made with something like candy wrappers.
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>>562011
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>>562012
funny, do you have any close up ?
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>>562012
>>562011
interesting..
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sup
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whoosp wrong images
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I've been trying to make one of those polished aluminium balls that have been going around

Will post pic if I perfect it
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>>564043
please do
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>>564321
Not him but i made this one out of curiosity. I acomplished quite a bit of shine with just a hammer but without sandpaper and actuall polishing technique, I was left with tiny pits which I could not smooth out because I think I compressed it to a point where it can no longer be compressed and small flakes fall off whenever I try to work on it which may cause more pits. I hypothesize that if i had a bigger ball I'd have more room to smooth out any pits and achieve total smoothness with just a hammer.
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>>564323
how much aluminium foil did you use for this? Did you keep it in all one piece?
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>>564326
it started with a 6x18" strip because i had to straighten out some headphones. it got a little small so a pulled about a 18x18' sqaure of foil and wrapped it around the first ball. funny enough i think the final product is about as big as the first ball
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>>564323
Did you rap and hammer a handful of layers at a time? I remember seeing a video with this being the cause of that problem.
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>>564343
are you talking about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8yJ0xtuZCE
i think his problem was that his ball was dense and as the layers were added, it was resistant to the hammer and the foil did not properly stick. The pits you see on my ball originate from the wrinkles in the foil when it was pressed by hand, hammering the ball closed these gaps. Either way these pits are very tiny, its just that there's a lot of them and there are small smooth spots which is surprising considering it was done with just a hammer. I have strong confidence that if i use sand paper and polish I can achieve an extreme shine
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>>544312
There's no folding involved. Crumpling aluminum in a certain way to form something is not folding. It is sculpting. The aluminum, in a way, is like clay that you sculpt into form.
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>>554426
>and demanded 50 cents because of interest rates or some shit
Goddamn Jews...
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>>564323
Would introducing heat, to completely fuse it into a round shape, be cheating/not allowed?
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>>564323
If it's too brittle then try annealing it with a blowtorch? Look up annealing temperatures for aluminum. You don't need to do it for 3 hours like the guides recommend since you only care about the surface. You can tell what temperature it is based on the color of its oxide layer (below 800F on this chart) or glow (all metals glow the same color at the same temps). I'm not really sure which charts to trust since their numbers differ by a few hundred degrees. Annealing doesn't melt metals but it softens brittle metals by reforming the crystal grains and releasing internal stresses
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>>564729
should also add, make sure no part ever hits the melting temp (660C/1220F). If melted aluminum hits your poured concrete floor, the water in the concrete will expand and make little explosions
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that looks awesome, really creative. great work
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>>544338
/po/ is for hasbeens
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>>564738
no u
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>>564778
no, u
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>>544301
this thread is almost 2 years old
I just want to appreciate that
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>>565027
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>>565571
Ha, /trv/ler here, I thought WE were slow!
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>>566503
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>>567908
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>>544301
I knew someone who does that.
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>>568548
tell me more
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Is this the slowest board on the site?
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>>568574
Are you OP?
If you’re OP and you’re still replying to posts after 2 years you’re an absolute madman.
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This post was created on my birthday
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>>568593
yeah
https://4stats.io/
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>>568594
Yeah It's OP I still check on this thread at least once every other week, this thread finna be the oldest thread on 4chan at some point I know it!
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>>568595
based
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>>544301
I always liked doing that when I was a child.
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>>545100
ori=fold
kami=paper

kiri=cut
kami=paper

orikami (origami) is folds, no cuts or glue. (traditionally, with SQUARE paper, the symmetry is why it is important)

kirikami (kirigami) is a whole seperate field ascribed to what you have described, cutting and glueing and shaping, oft not using square sheets.

as an expert modular folder, i say they are origami. every (EVERY) piece, or UNIT, is made from a SQUARE. dont take my modulars to try to prove a non factual point
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>>545143
cuts and glue are KIRIGAMI! DIFFERENT TYPE OF CRAFT ENTIRELY. DONT CONFLATE THE TWO
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>>546580
this! by combining the two types of paper craft, you diminish the finer points of both! stop trying to be inclusive! youre diminishing both hobbies!
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>>568699
>no cuts (...) traditionally, with SQUARE paper
Not at all.
"Traditionally", it was done essentially for religious purpose, and there was often one or many cuts (and the paper wasn't usually square either).
The whole "one square no cut" is a relatively recent origami "rule".
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>>568699
>>568700
>>568701
>>568710
>4 posts in one day
Are you trying to kill this thread?
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this is the oldest thread on the site right now and it's kind of off topic since aluminium isn't conventional folding
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>>569267
shut up fag
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>>569267
Maybe turn /po/ into /pops/; (Papercraft, Oragami, & Paper Sculpting), and generate some traffic here.



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