what do you think about making sculptures out of aluminum foil?
>>544301those are cool, though plain aluminum foil isn't the best looking stuf. Do you know how they are made ? If they are made of only one rectangular sheet of aluminum foil well that mean technically they're as much origami as any other origami model.
>>544308>>they're as much origami as any other origami model....except for the gami-part
>>544310>...except for the gami-partWell what is paper in origami, and what isn't ? tissue foil is concidered paper. If half metal half vegetal fiber is considered paper why not full metal ?. You could obtain the same results with tissue foil instead of plain foil, would it be origami for you then ?
>>544312I think that is not folding xD, it's just like foil was clay
>cat starts whimpering and runs out of room whenever I mess around with aluminum foil>look it up>the sound of the metal scraping is in the ultrasonic range and is apparently so deafening and horrible it can cause seizures in older catsand thats when I started origami
>>544330some wet folding is like this
>>544301/po/ is for paper and paper accessories onlyBeat it nerdBefore we beat you
>>544310It is possible to make origami out of tinfoil, but because it's so thin and holds any crease you put in it, it's rather difficult.That said, I did once succeed in folding a semi-elaborate tinfoil swan.
>>544331That is interesting to know. I've had my cat for a while now, he's probably nearing 5 years old and I just got a kitten last month. The two get along but the kitten always wants to play with something and the older cat doesn't feel like dealing with that shit so sometimes when I'm done playing with the kitten I'll make him a little ball out of aluminum foil and let him play with that. I've never noticed the older cat's reaction but now I think I'll stop with that just in case. The last thing I need is a cat seizing in the kitchen
>>544312You annoy the fuck out of me. I like making things similar to what OP does, hell this is literally one of the common steps for making clay sculptures and people use aluminum foil and hot glue to make figures. But this is absolutely not in any way origami. Origami is the act of folding a single square of paper into a design without the use of cuts, tape/glue and all fold done can be simplified to combinations of 4 folds (mountain, valley, inside & outside reverse folds). Wet folding is a variant which does not add any physical medium to the finished product and foil-paper still abides by the same rules as traditional origami. crumpling a piece of paper isn't origami, crumpling and shaping foil isn't origami. Just because you like origami and you like X doesn't mean X is origami.>>544301OP you're stuff is fine, I'd suggest finding tutorials on sculpting to add clay/epoxy layers over those to make them permanent and have better detail. Also since there is no miscellaneous art board here I support this thread being in /po even if it's not papercraft or origami (read sod off nerd>>544338 )
>>545080>Origami is the act of folding a single square of paper into a design without the use of cuts, tape/glueThis is /a/ definition of origami, the one you like (obviously!), but it doesn't mean this is the one and only way to define origami.Until before mid-20th century, origami in Japan widely contained cuts and used rectangles.You are using the "purist", modern definition of origami.What about bill-folding (non-square rectangles) and other shapes folding (pentagons, triangles, ...)?(Do you know of the "traditional" origami in Europe, using rectangles for hats, boats, planes, ...?)What about tea-bag pack folding?What about modular? Not a "single square of paper" either...And crumpling techniques are also accepted as origami (even if this is indeed more controversial ^^).Also:>all fold done can be simplified to combinations of 4 foldsIf you want to go this way, there is only one fold (mountain and valley are the same when you flip the paper), and many combinations of it (what about sink/unsink, (spread) squash, swivel, etc?)Anyway, whatever float your (paper) boat is fine.Many definitions of origami (there is no Truth!) are OK, and the important is that we can fold however and whatever we like.
>>545080heh that's funny cause i made this flowchart ! (But i should change "paper" in "paper or cardboard")But i wasn't trying to annoy you, it was just completely hypothetical/philosophical. I know including this into origami is a bit artificial and it's closer to sclutping than traditional origami.
I would say that if you're folding distinctly it's origami, but if you're just kinda crumpling it like in that image it is more a sculpting/claylike thing than tru origami.
>>545100This all the way. I hate paper nazis trying to enforce rules on a hobby/art. Especially when it isn't because they think cuts and glue compromise the beauty and integrity of the design, they're just too lazy to get tools.
>>545127it's kinda hard to create figures by folding aluminum foil, it's too thin
>>544338Fuck off you purest elitist. /po/ is for people who like fun so you should leave.
I have done it before. It gets pretty hard and might take some practice though. But it is still a great hobby.
>>546031>/po/ is for people who like fun/po/ is for people who like fun with paper. Your particular type of "fun" is not welcome here friend.
>>545100he can look into vincent floderer to see crumpled origami, so yeah, crumpled foil would go in origami, thoki yenn had a diagram where you could judge just how far you´re willing to go before you stop calling it origami, maybe it was in an old BOS booklet
>>546532not thoki yenn, but john smith, I found the page for you http://www.britishorigami.info/academic/jonsmif.php
>>545100Origami =/= kirigamiorigami doesn't contain cuts
I often use tin foil for practicing bc I don't have access to a lot of paper that is large/thin enough. I think that as long as you could've made it out of paper you're fine.
>>546343/po/ is starting to look like /pol/
This thread spooked me good.
>>544729From /pol/ hereDo you do hats?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Ye2Jd8u3MTin foil can be better than paper when trying to make some things, like a rose for example.
>>544301I don't think it looks good when you scrunch it up. If you take the time and make it similar to typical papercraft, I'm sure it would look a lot better.
>>548491It's not impossible to make origami figurines out of aluminum foil, you can do things like you a hot iron to smooth out the surface, and avoid crinkles. I've seen some seriously impressive pieces made out of aluminum foil, which says a lot because it's harder to make good looking origami out of aluminum foil, as apposed to paper.
>>548927Since you posted the pic, here's the instructions for anyone that wants it http://bladerunnerunicorn.com/_bladerunnerunicorn.com.html
>>549024Oh nice! I wonder if you can create a metropolis figure with tin foil, that would be so cool.
>>548479that's amazing, thanks for sharing
>>544310And the oru part. If this qualifies as folding, so does crumpling up a piece of paper into a ball.
>>549802Don't you know about Jeremy Shafer's origami monolithic rubblestone boulder?
the amount of autism on this thread is unprecedented.admittedly i don't spend much time on /po, but this shit is shocking.
>>546742My idea of fun is painting minifigures. Can I start making threads here
>>550260As long as your minifigures are made of paper (/po/ being about Papercraft and Origami), it should be OK.
>>550254Thanks, now I have to re-watch Akira...
>>550352Akira is pretty shit desu
>Papercraft and OrigamiWait, so all this argument about what is and is not origami only applies to a subset of what this board is about? Something could NOT be origami and still be on topic?Cool.
>>551417Welcome to /po/ faggot
>>551417That's where the P in /po/ comes in Papercraft and OrigamiP for PapercraftO for Origami/po/ Get it?
>>544301>Not paper>No folding>SculptingGet out. Kindly.
>>552668>sculpting what? how the hell is it sculpting, maybe you need to iron out the dents, but you're still folding. it's origami.
>>551417do you have a higher-res of your pic?
>>553497nvm, found what I wanted
>>544301it's not bloody papercraft
>>544301 Used to do this all the time with my packed lunch foil, but since I couldn't pack it well because all it covered was a soggy sandwich my mom made, the best I could muster was scorpions and shit where I could just pack it all into one areaI tried with dragons but the wings were too flimsy since they were only one layer anywaysI would sell them for 25 cents until some bitch bought one, returned it the next day because her dad called her stupid, and demanded 50 cents because of interest rates or some shit
>>552668>Get outAnd go where?
>>554427/alu/ - aluminum foil
Might as well make it paper mache
THIS THREAD IS FROM OVER A YEAR AGO!
>>557749gonna be 2 years in 2 days
>>544301Holy fuck this thread is 2 years old what the fuck /pol/
>>559758>/pol/>>546533There’s no diagram there.
>>559758So /po/ is the real redpill?
>>559797/po/ is the true source of 4chan's power
>>559799Origami war when?
You guys planning to have the oldest thread in 4chan? Also greetings from /pol/
>>544301this is so bullshit. Do you think when moot made this board and called it papercraft and origami he meant papercraft and papercraft. no dipshits he meant paper craft and other folded materials
>>560065literally my intentions from day 1600 days here we come
>>554375That's still papercraft
>>554426Hahaha did you actually give her 50 cents
>>544301I saw this at an expo some months ago.They were all made with something like candy wrappers.
>>562012funny, do you have any close up ?
whoosp wrong images
I've been trying to make one of those polished aluminium balls that have been going aroundWill post pic if I perfect it
>>564321Not him but i made this one out of curiosity. I acomplished quite a bit of shine with just a hammer but without sandpaper and actuall polishing technique, I was left with tiny pits which I could not smooth out because I think I compressed it to a point where it can no longer be compressed and small flakes fall off whenever I try to work on it which may cause more pits. I hypothesize that if i had a bigger ball I'd have more room to smooth out any pits and achieve total smoothness with just a hammer.
>>564323how much aluminium foil did you use for this? Did you keep it in all one piece?
>>564326it started with a 6x18" strip because i had to straighten out some headphones. it got a little small so a pulled about a 18x18' sqaure of foil and wrapped it around the first ball. funny enough i think the final product is about as big as the first ball
>>564323Did you rap and hammer a handful of layers at a time? I remember seeing a video with this being the cause of that problem.
>>564343are you talking about this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8yJ0xtuZCEi think his problem was that his ball was dense and as the layers were added, it was resistant to the hammer and the foil did not properly stick. The pits you see on my ball originate from the wrinkles in the foil when it was pressed by hand, hammering the ball closed these gaps. Either way these pits are very tiny, its just that there's a lot of them and there are small smooth spots which is surprising considering it was done with just a hammer. I have strong confidence that if i use sand paper and polish I can achieve an extreme shine
>>544312There's no folding involved. Crumpling aluminum in a certain way to form something is not folding. It is sculpting. The aluminum, in a way, is like clay that you sculpt into form.
>>554426>and demanded 50 cents because of interest rates or some shitGoddamn Jews...
>>564323Would introducing heat, to completely fuse it into a round shape, be cheating/not allowed?
>>564323If it's too brittle then try annealing it with a blowtorch? Look up annealing temperatures for aluminum. You don't need to do it for 3 hours like the guides recommend since you only care about the surface. You can tell what temperature it is based on the color of its oxide layer (below 800F on this chart) or glow (all metals glow the same color at the same temps). I'm not really sure which charts to trust since their numbers differ by a few hundred degrees. Annealing doesn't melt metals but it softens brittle metals by reforming the crystal grains and releasing internal stresses
>>564729should also add, make sure no part ever hits the melting temp (660C/1220F). If melted aluminum hits your poured concrete floor, the water in the concrete will expand and make little explosions
that looks awesome, really creative. great work
>>544338/po/ is for hasbeens
>>544301this thread is almost 2 years oldI just want to appreciate that
>>565571Ha, /trv/ler here, I thought WE were slow!
>>544301I knew someone who does that.
>>568548tell me more
Is this the slowest board on the site?
>>568574Are you OP?If you’re OP and you’re still replying to posts after 2 years you’re an absolute madman.
This post was created on my birthday
>>568594Yeah It's OP I still check on this thread at least once every other week, this thread finna be the oldest thread on 4chan at some point I know it!
>>544301I always liked doing that when I was a child.
>>545100ori=foldkami=paperkiri=cutkami=paperorikami (origami) is folds, no cuts or glue. (traditionally, with SQUARE paper, the symmetry is why it is important)kirikami (kirigami) is a whole seperate field ascribed to what you have described, cutting and glueing and shaping, oft not using square sheets.as an expert modular folder, i say they are origami. every (EVERY) piece, or UNIT, is made from a SQUARE. dont take my modulars to try to prove a non factual point
>>545143cuts and glue are KIRIGAMI! DIFFERENT TYPE OF CRAFT ENTIRELY. DONT CONFLATE THE TWO
>>546580this! by combining the two types of paper craft, you diminish the finer points of both! stop trying to be inclusive! youre diminishing both hobbies!
>>568699>no cuts (...) traditionally, with SQUARE paperNot at all."Traditionally", it was done essentially for religious purpose, and there was often one or many cuts (and the paper wasn't usually square either).The whole "one square no cut" is a relatively recent origami "rule".
>>568699>>568700>>568701>>568710>4 posts in one dayAre you trying to kill this thread?
this is the oldest thread on the site right now and it's kind of off topic since aluminium isn't conventional folding
>>569267shut up fag
>>569267Maybe turn /po/ into /pops/; (Papercraft, Oragami, & Paper Sculpting), and generate some traffic here.
>>568710>The whole "one square no cut" is a relatively recent origami "rule".And then, it's not really a rule. It's more of a guide-line.
>>546026It CAN be done though, with some serious patience. I once folded a fancy swan out of a squared off piece of tin foil.
>>570933I like this frog. Does anyone have the instructions for it ?
>>570933Does this like doez
>>571115It's in the book origami essence by roman diaz
>>571120Thanks a lot !
>>568699>>569267Not origami? K let's just go post this on the aluminum folding board.
>>546742pol and po is a venn diagram because of misspelling We use this as autistic quiet time
>>571054I decided to put my money where my mouth is and made a tinfoil version of a custom origami plane I designed.
>>573146What a shitty crumpled foil dragon.
Happy anniversary from /vg/
>>571115i have it, you just have to post your bank info dude, its safe bro
>>546742And that's a good thing
>>544310well we do call them 銀紙 (gingami) here sometimes so it does have a gami part
>>544301Of our studies it is impossible to speak, since they held so slight a connection with anything of the world as living men conceive it. They were of that vaster and more appalling universe of dim entity and consciousness which lies deeper than matter, time, and space, and whose existence we suspect only in certain forms of sleep- those rare dreams beyond dreams which come never to common men, and but once or twice in the lifetime of imaginative men. The cosmos of our waking knowledge, born from such an universe as a bubble is born from the pipe of a jester, touches it only as such a bubble may touch its sardonic source when sucked back by the jester's whim. Men of learning suspect it little and ignore it mostly. Wise men have interpreted dreams, and the gods have laughed. One man with Oriental eyes has said that all time and space are relative, and men have laughed. But even that man with Oriental eyes has done no more than suspect. I had wished and tried to do more than suspect, and my friend had tried and partly succeeded. Then we both tried together, and with exotic drugs courted terrible and forbidden dreams in the tower studio chamber of the old manor-house in hoary Kent.