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All video related questions and discussion is intended for this thread. Here we discuss techniques, gear and anything else related to capturing video footage. Please don't pretend to be an expert if you don't know what you're talking about. Kindly leave your ego at the door.
Posting short films/scripts or other work you've done is encouraged.
We tend to use and recommend DSLRs/mirrorless cameras because they provide phenomenal picture quality for their price, have large sensors (ie the same size used in high-end cinema cameras and higher) and have interchangeable lenses.
In contrast, consumer camcorders normally have much smaller sensors and a fixed lens.

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Previous thread >>3470857
Why is filmmaking so soul-destroying?

Quick FAQS
>what’s the best camera available on a “budget”?
The blackmagic pocket cinema camera 4k, by a considerable margin
>>what’s a good beginner video camera?
Buy a used canon m50
>Can I use a zoom lens for video?
Yes
>Do I need cine lenses?
No
>Where can I find a good 4k lens?
Anywhere. Your stills have a much higher resolution than 4k. 4k lenses are a meme
>Do I need 4k?
No. It will make your footage look sharper if it’s in focus, and it gives you breathing room in post. But 1080p is still absolutely fine
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>>3483978
>But 1080p is still absolutely fine
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question: are promist filters worth it? I've heard things here and there about just making a DIY nylon filter but I would like to hear opinions
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>>3484145
The "red-pill" towards filmmaking is realising that the most effective way to move 'up' (commercially) is entirely dependent on looks. If you look more professional, if your gear looks more expensive etc etc then you'll do better (assuming you actually produce decent video).
If you get hired to shoot a corporate training video and you show up with a crappy canon 1300d, a small tripod and nylon tights that you put over your lens then chances are you won't get rehired regardless (unless you just make the best impression in the world on your employer somehow).
If you show up with that same camera but a case of expensive lenses, a huge video fluid head tripod, big studio lights that you don't need, a cage and expensive filters, and talk about how you would use the arri but it's in the shop and this is a small production so you're confident with a smaller camera then you're a lot more likely to be rehired. Even if the video is exactly the same in both cases

If you're an indie filmmaker making shit for yourself, or to get better or to create a showreel then no. A lot of this shit isn't worth it.
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>>3483978
/vid/ should stop recommending the bmpcc4k as a "budget" camera. All the BM camera end up costing way more $$$$ in addition to the body. You can blow $300 easy on media alone.
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>>3484196
ok
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>>3484196
It's clear you have no idea what "budget" means.
>You can blow $300 easy on media alone.
This is a stupid statement. You can blow $1000 on media for any camera. That doesn't mean anything. A 128gb sd card with a write speed of 90 mb/s costs like 40 bucks.
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>>3484196
> blow over $300 on media alone

Not if you record directly to an external ssd drive, if you want a cfast 2.0 card it’s going to cost you serious coin no matter what camera you use.
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>>3484201
yeah, but this is the board where people think $60 for a filter is expensive
>This is a stupid statement. You can blow $1000 on media for any camera. That doesn't mean anything. A 128gb sd card with a write speed of 90 mb/s costs like 40 bucks.
I'm talking about how much it costs to get 4:2:2 4k 60fps without frame drops
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>>3484237
You can shoot that perfectly fine with UHS-II cards. Also why the FUCK would you ever shoot at the maximum limit of a camera? VERY little situations.

If "media" being "too expensive" the reason of your mediocrity then please sell all your gear, or give it away!
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>>3484243
You're missing my point, which is that the camera is a bad budget camera recommendation and that there are a lot of hidden costs.
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is it easy to correct white balance in post
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>>3484253
in raw, yes
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>>3484255
is there such a thing as raw video? is that just recording in slog?
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>>3484278
raw as in undebayered
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>>3484278
>is that just recording in slog?
No. Read the sticky
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What's the best way to get more distance out of a DVR for CCTV that only has an HDMI port as the viewing port.
Is buying two HDMI -> SDI & back converters and placing them on each end of our existing 75ohm coax connection a good idea?

Or would pulling an Ethernet line and converting HDMI through that be a tad more painless
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So what would be some good lights to get if i'm looking to make home made porn? I already have a F&V R300 ring light. I dont really have space to setup more than one light stand, and even then i'd like to avoid that so i'd need something which I can nigger rig, like using Fat Gecko mounts to windows or walls.
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I have been shooting with the gh5 close to 3 years and i still love it. There is no justification going for anything else in 2019 yet. Change my mind. Pro tip: you can't.
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>>3484720
agreed, it's still one of the most versatile little cameras out there
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>>3484720
GH5 has a lot of noise in its shadows and poor low-light capabilities. It also has a small sensor.
In my opinion, its benefits are outweighed by its cons (depending on what you want to shoot). But to each their own and I'm glad you have a camera that you love that much
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>>3484720
loving your gear is the most amateurish mistake you can do. what a pleb you are.
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Videos wouldn't have any kind of exif would they?
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>>3484720
It's quietly turning into a classic. Way ahead of it's time three years ago, yet it went under the radar for a long time. People are only now starting to realize what 10bit can do for you.
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Any recommendations on camera bags?
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>>3484733
I have the metabones ultra x0.71 and sigma 18-35 and i litterally have no problems with low lights. At event i light my scenes and i can go to f1.2 and have no problems. Also there is gh5s if you shoot a lot of low light.

>>3484787
I dont love my gear, im saying there isnt and reason to change it atm

>>3484840
If gh5 was even announced as today it would be a game changer aswell. The ibis and the 10bit just makes it unbeatable
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>>3484937
Lower bro 350 aw ii
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>>3484946
>x0.71
>not loving your gear
>would be a game changer today
c'mon, you're just too obvious and stupid. and hilarious. you little gear-in-the-shelf-putting-faggot-and-feeling-like-a-pro-without-ever-shooting-anything.
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>>3484840
>>3484946
Panashills pls
>If gh5 was even announced as today it would be a game changer aswell. The ibis and the 10bit just makes it unbeatable
Jesus christ you're delusional
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>>3484968
Ad hominems, any argument that you could convince me otherwise?
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>>3484969
The bmp4k outperforms the gh5 in literally every aspect by a country fucking mile (except ibis) and is cheaper. That you think a worse, more expensive camera releasing today would be a game changer is fucking stupid.
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>>3484970
Maybe in commercial videos yeah, but the ergos suck my man that makes it impossible for run n gun shoots. But is a good little camera but yet again again is not really cheap to make it work for a full day shoot.
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>>3484970
>bad battery life
>still has software glitches
>requires high level judo to mount on stablizer
>unreliable mount, cage mandatory
>overheats if rig covers vents
things you would know if you used the camera and didn't just shitpost online
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>>3484834
depends on the format and codec
a lot of acquisition formats have all kinds of similar metadata attached
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>>3485015
But it records to an ssd drive. Records in ProRes with out an external recorder, and records in raw too.

Unless you need great autofocus for run and gun work I don’t see how the gh5 out performs it, and I bet blackmagic could add autofocus in a future update if they wanted to.

Plus they include a great nle, DaVinci Resolve, that doesn’t require you to pay a monthly tax to Abode.

If you want great color get the bmpcc 4k, if you want to record your crotchfruits acting like morons or your foreveralone self making autistic rantings or non-cinematic cat videos online get the gh5. If you want cinematic cat videos you’ll need the bmpcc 4k.
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>>3485015
You've just described a Red camera. Do Reds suck? I don't think so.
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>>3485038
The gh5 doesn't even have a great autofocus maybe only with native lenses and still is not realiable. But getting an ssd to shoot proress it will cost you shiton of money because of storage. Bmcc is weak. Gh5 is clearly better. And the gh5s has better sensor thatn bmcc. Also dacinci is still underdeveloped and premiere has been rock solid for years.
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>>3485048
Comparing a full cine cam to consumer/prosumer entry level cams, but still gh5 can still outperform the red if you shoot cats. hehe
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>>3484970
I don't think they're even in the same market segment. Gh5 is feature packed all rounder, bmpc4k is control environment high performer. With same lens ecosystem they even complement each other well.
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>>3485053

Not if you are a sperg doing a documentary about cats to show on the big screen on Caturday. You’d need a red or an arri if you wanna do that.
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>>3485051
Enjoy paying adobe $20+ dollars a month to edit your videos when the anons using DaVinci don’t need to pay adobe any fees.

If you want 4k hi-quality footage you’re going to need to pay for media. If you want shitty videos for YouTube this may not apply to you.
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>>3484720
Gh5s.
Get a gimbal if IBIS is your reason
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https://youtu.be/36GJIE8yve8?t=142

How is the transition at 2:22 done?
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>>3485353
$100 hitman plugin
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What's a good, cheap, reliable VHS camcorder that is still kicking? My friends and I are making some movies and our old Panasonic one is decent but it eats up tape frequently.
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No more excuses, /vid/
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>>3485420
Gearfags keep getting BTFO but I guarantee they'll keep making excuses to hold off from practicing making videos regardless of what how much new gear they get
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>>3485506
Gh5s shoots 4k 25p 10 bit at 400mbs what it your point? It was still a medium high end production
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>>3485513
Re-read my post slowly but if you don't understand, my point is the GH5S IS a VERY CAPABLE camera and despite that, there will be gearfags who scoff at it becsuse they THINK they need something on the much higher end in order to make good videos. Such gearfags then go on to make excuses about not being able to get into video because they lack hollywood tier cameras.
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>>3485353
Overlay the second shot above the first shot on your timeline. Key the second shot out with a luma key. Use keyframes and have the second shot fully visible about 2 or 3 seconds later.
Or just pay for a plugin to do it for you
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>>3485420
The cinema camera meme is so stupid and dead at this point. If you have a 'decent' camera that can shoot 4k, its quality is enough for cinema. Audiences can't see whether it was 8-bit or 10-bit. Just make sure you expose your footage properly and light it properly
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I want a shot of a vampire hanging from the ceiling, I am thinking of having an actor sit upside down in the corner of a room and then just flip the footage. They will wear no baggy clothes and short hair, in theory this should work right?

This would also be a night scene with a single key light so most of the frame will be black. Maybe give him an object to throw to sell the idea of gravity? I am surprisingly finding it hard to find any tutorials on how to practically fake people hanging from ceilings.
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>>3485521
It’s much easier to blame your lack of gear than to admit that you’re a talentless retarded sperg who will never be able to shoot good video no matter what gear you end up getting.
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>>3485525
and with the bmpcc 4k you can get a camera that can shoot 12bit raw for less money than a camera than shoots 8bit or 10bit

you only need the extra bits if you want to do aggressive color grading or vfx work

anons is their any other reasons you’d need more bits in your image
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>>3485563
the main reason is being able to use any form of log to make use of your dynamic range
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>>3485546
I would like to see the result :)
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>>3485563
Any indie production that spends more money on their cameras/camera-rentals than the price of a bmp4k is flat-out retarded. It's actually becoming embarrassing.
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>>3485651
Been thinking for a while that what we think as indie production has change wildly. If you are shooting on red cameras or other high end glass and lights, you are closer to a small production house than an "indie filmmaker" which in my mind conjures all the directors from the 90s that shot on 16mm during their weekends using daylight.
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>>3485669
I don't know, I helped out on a short film a couple of years ago that had a budget of just a little under ten grand. They shot it on an arri.
No one owns arris but everyone rents them
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>>3484253
Color grading is a bitch. If you don't have any kind of log or raw, then make sure you're satisfied with whatever you're getting out of the camera.
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>>3485546
I don't know man, hardwood floors or carpet ceilings isn't common.
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>>3485928
am planning to use the corner of a basement, haven't done any location scouting so will see what I find.
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Which variable ND filter would you guys recommend?
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>>3485997
polar pro
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>>3484253
Contrary to what others have said, I'd say yes even with 8-bit picture profiles. Changing white balance alone doesn't really affect the picture much, it just shifts all the colour values. If you already have a clean image that's properly exposed, this process won't break your image.
In pp, it's literally as simple as putting on fast colour corrector, and one of the options lets you select a point from your image to set a new white balance.
I'm not just theorising, I've done this and been praised on the final image by strangers (I was shooting on a relatively high bitrate, but 8-bit 4-2-0 standard picture profile). I'd post examples if I wasn't so paranoid since the short is available online.

In my experience, the colour grading that really breaks an image is when you add a lot of contrast (creates banding), when you really mess with the individual colours on your rgb curves and when you try to adjust your exposure in post (though if you lower your exposure in post it has the opposite effect and makes the footage look better)
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I have two Nvidia 1080 graphics cards and 128 gb of ram in my system. DaVinci Resolve gives an error that it ran out of video ram. How can I configure the program to use some of the 128 gb of ecc ram in my system as video ram. Or how can I configure the program to make better use of my gpus. This happens very often for very small, less then a few minutes long, clips not for large videos.
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>>3486032
>use some of the 128 gb of ecc ram in my system as video ram
not possible
make sure to use the studio version so you can use more than one gpu
make sure to use the latest stable 15.x version along with whatever driver build they suggest in the official setup guide and BMD forum
I haven't used a nvidia gpu in a while but I remember this random running out of error thing vanishing and appearing back and forth with different updates to both resolve and the nvidia drivers so check the official channels for info on how to track that shit with your system
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>>3486034
I am using version 16.3
I am using the studio version.
Is their a way to make it so that both my gpu and cpu get used so that the gpu doesn’t fail or is that also impossible too.
I am running it on Windows 10.
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>>3486036
16 is in beta
don't use that
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>>3486036
Report the bug, 16 is still in beta.
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>>3486032
>two Nvidia 1080 graphics cards
>how can I configure the program to make better use of my gpus

Davinci already supports SLI, but mem will be shared, not combined across the cards. SLI limitations, nothing you can do abut it. Only way to combine memory would be using NVLink Bridge. Not sure if Davinci already supports it, doesn't matter, since your gpu's doesn't support it. You can test if you're getting any performance out of SLI by plugging one of the gpu's out of the motherboard.
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Anyone have experience with Flowcam? Specifically the 4000?
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>>3486154
looks like a cheap ripoff of the cheap ripoffs
stick with tested stuff like flycam, which isn't too bad
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>>3486001
do I have to get the peter mcshillson edition to make banger videos?
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>>3485546
Hold the camera upside down while filming, you won't have to do it in post.
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>>3486177
yeah
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Does it bother anyone else when YouTube vloggers call themselves filmmakers
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>>3486186
why would it bother you?
it's not that "filmmaker" would imply any quality anyway
I find some people that post regular gear selfies, basic looking corporate interview bts shots and random shiity stills on instagram and call them "cinematographer" in their bio much more retarded
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>>3486188
It just feels to me that it takes away from what a massive effort and pain in the arse it is to actually be a filmmaker
stolen valour, if you will
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>>3486190
If the only accomplishment you get from your films is being able to call yourself a filmmaker, then you have far greater problems than some dipshit youtuber's way of describing what they do
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>>3486190
An amateur photographer that takes shitty photographs is still a photographer, same for a shitty painter. Its just a tittle, its meaningless. Like Robert Rodriguez said in his book, people spend thousands of dollars in film school just so they can earn the right to call themselves filmmakers. He made a business card out of paper and it garner the same respect. And I am saying vloggers are inherently shitty filmmakers either.
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>>3486198
Robert Rodriguez got respect because he created great films. El Mariachi was a fucking masterpiece. All film schools do is teach you how to produce pretentious shit nobody wants to watch.
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>>3486183
BFFFAWHASUP
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I have a canon 1 mk4 and a good set of glass (70-200L, 24-105 etc, 50 etc), I assume this is perfectly fine for starting out in video?
I've been asked to document a social project that mostly takes place in a dull lit music studio.
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>>3486476
1d4 is from 2009 and a lot of things changed in the last 10 years
Compared to any recent sub $1k camera the video is abysmal
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What is the proper workflow for working with blackmagic raw? Do I need to do a color-space transformation to turn the raw into flat log or can I grade directly from raw? I find I got better looking images from cinema dng when grading but I like the small file sizes that blackmagic raw offers?

Would it be better to use ProRes? Or is their a real benefit to using blackmagic raw? I just want to know the proper workflow for getting great looking cinematic images out of blackmagic raw on my bmpcc 4k.

I am just a noob who wants to learn moar about color grading so I can create some kino cat videos.
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>>3486583
>Do I need to do a color-space transformation to turn the raw into flat log
there's a drop down menu in the raw tab, you can use film, video, extended video or any starting point you like, pretty much identical to cdng
>or can I grade directly from raw?
use "film" and it's the usual flat profile if you want to use luts and shit that expects that
>I find I got better looking images from cinema dng when grading but I like the small file sizes that blackmagic raw offers?
in terms of profiles it's the exact same
>Would it be better to use ProRes?
no
>Or is their a real benefit to using blackmagic raw?
it's small, efficient, very high performance and has all the raw controls
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>>3486589
Thanks anon. I forgot to add the film profile. I’ll try that and see if that works for me.
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>>3486596
yeah if you don't set it it will put whatever you set as preview in camera pulled from the metadata
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>local film competition
>funded by local business
>win prize money
>get praise as up and coming talent
>money is assumed to be used in purchasing new gear or funding future productions
>use it all on escorts

Is this based or pathetic?
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>>3486628
it's the only way to make it in the business
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>>3486628

If you video tape yourself fucking the escorts to sell as amateur porn you have used the money in the right way.
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>>3486650
>to sell as amateur porn
>not to release as a deep introspective critique on the shallow nature of modern day relationships and sex that only idiots can't understand
It's like you don't even want to be renowned in the indie film scene by people who watch films purely to feel cultured
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>>3486628
That's pretty based,
then again literally all your money on whores seems irresponsible
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>>3486628
Pretty based. You won the competition already so your current gear isn't holding you back anyway.
You better be getting top pussy though if you paid for it.
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>>3486663
Twist: His short wasn't particularly great but was a good concept told in a really janky way and they wanted him to buy better equipment so that his stories wouldn't be limited by his equipment (as opposed to the filmmakers who already had good equipment so wouldn't have a use for the money)
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Cringe
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Why does it look like most films are shot just a bit slower? Do they literally set the speed to 95% or is it the color grading?
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>>3486838
stop smoking pot/taking ambien.
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>>3486838
24fps with 180 degree shutter angle
>>3486888
how the fuck can we recommend anything without knowing what you have and what you're shooting idiot
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>>3486888
To do what? There's not really "a rig". There's a bunch of different rigs for very different purposes.
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>>3486890
>>3486892
lol relax man, yes I'm an idiot I should have specified

It's for sports/lots of running
Camera is an xh1
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>>3486909
https://www.smallrig.com/smallrig-cage-kit-for-fujifilm-x-h1-camera-with-battery-grip-2136.html
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For documentary-esque filming, what fps would you guys suggest? 24 or more towards 30+?
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>>3487023
depends on what you're documenting and what kind of look you want
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>>3487028
Well in my opinion 60fps looks to fluid, a bit of a ''slower'' look. Would 30fps achieve this?

Starting with my documentary minor in september and have some research to do. Any help would be appreciated.
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>>3487038
test it with the kind of situations, focal lenths and camera movement you want to use
this depends so much on context
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>>3487038
60fps is usually used for sports.
24fps is usually used for the cinema, it’s what most movies use.
30fps is usually used for television

Watch the image and choose whatever fps looks more pleasing to your eye.
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>>3486909
I shoot sporting events all the time and it is really taste dependent. For example if you are shooting something like Tough Mudder you might want that slo-mo smooth look for shots of people crawling out of the mud. For things with lots of motion in groups like football or soccer you might want high fps with choppy shutter. 24/180 is the most cinematic.
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>>3486628

Buy artbooks made by photographers for more inspiration
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>>3484248
There are no costs associated with the BMPCC4K that don't come with every single camera on the market.

>inb4 no flip out screen
90% of the time, I shoot without an additional monitor. You mileage may vary, but a smartphone will do fine.

>inb4 low battery time
True, but with BRAW 12:1 UHD 60fps, you get about 75 minutes of record time on a single battery. Getting a few extra batteries is pretty much a necessity for any camera. But yes, you may need to buy spend an extra $30 to compete with the GH5.

>inb4 gotta buy a metabones speedbooster
No. MFT lenses are fine. If you want the full-frame look, you just need to compensate for the crop factor and exposure, which is free.

>inb4 you gotta get a gimbal
That's just silly.
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>>3487227
I had most of the stuff that people claim you’d need for the bmpcc 4k for other cameras.

The only real cost to me was good cinema glass, but you’d need to buy that no matter what camera you used.

The person complaining about the hidden costs of the bmpcc 4k is most likely a mentally retarded smartphone using moron and wouldn’t even know how to use a cinema camera.
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Are ND-Filters recommended? And if so, what ND filter should you get for the x-t2?
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>>3485690
>a little under ten grand. They shot it on an arri
Are they really that cheap to rent? With all the necessary gear to use it?
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>>3487261
depending on where you are and to what kind of audience the rental company caters you can get a kit for $400-900 a day and they almost always offer huge discounts for larger timespans
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>>3487261
Yep. The shoot was only two days though so the rental was assumedly not "that" bad.
(still a huge waste imo)
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>>3487263
>>3485690
location?
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Let's say my budget is $300

At $300 are video drones just a GoPro glued to an RC copter or are they "comparable" to an entry level DSLR?
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>>3487307
wow 300$ you are like a millionaire dude
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>>3487324
Is that a no?
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>>3487260
You use an nd filter so you can use wide open apertures during the day.

If you are buying 1 filter buy a variable neutral density filter
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>>3487307
>At $300 are video drones just a GoPro glued to an RC copter
At best
Google some footage on YouTube that shit is horrible, even older gens DJI that you can get for that price now look like trash. The optics are shit and can't compensate for the microscopic sensor site plus the bitrates are way too low to make foliage, water and other nature stuff aka the common drone subjects not look like crap. Pretty much comparable to why gopros look they way they do
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Should I buy a fuji xt3?
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>>3487441
yes
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is a fuji x-h1 good enough for 24p 4k cinematic filmmaking?
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Is it just me, or do all Rode mics sound like shit?
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>>3487631
I always go with Audio-Technica
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>>3487525
>good enough
Anything that films in your desired resolution is 'good enough'. The real question is whether or not you're good enough to work with cameras with poor low-light/no IBIS/no log etc etc
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>>3487307
Just save for longer and get a proper dji drone...either a p4pro or mavic 2 pro
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Any recommendations for a low-budget hotshoe mic that doesn't suck? Thinking shotgun, I want some directionality to it. Also going to use it primarily outside so resistance to wind noise is a factor.

I'm totally new at this video thing so be gentle.
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>>3487525
Yes I have one it's gud

But I'm probably going to pick up a xt3 for video though
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>>3484145
Black promist 1/8 makes a pretty bloom, they certainly can help you create a unique look but like the other anon said it's all in what the vision is
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>>3487785
Buy a cheap lav mic instead and thank me later
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I want /vid/ to critique my short film but I don't want to link to a video of my face on 4chan.
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>>3487879
edit the video and blur your face?
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>>3487879
How do we know which character is you.
Just post it
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>>3487921
as if somebody would link here a random video with 18 views, when he isn't the creator. c'mon.

>>3487879
you'll get nowhere if you pussy out. the worst which can happen is that you get doxxed and exposed as a loliboard poster to all your friends and relatives. don't be lame.
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>>3487879
Imagine one day making it big in Hollywood and then some journalist finds out that you used to post on infamous neonazi-pedo-incel forum.
Just kidding, /tv/ used to have student film threads where anons would post their creations, nothing happened to any of them as far as I know.
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>>3487931
>infamous neonazi-pedo-incel forum.
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okay fine

p-please be gentle i'm still new to filmmaking

https://youtu.be/vay6ra2NsbU
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>>3487865
I'm not recording people, going to be recording ambient scenes/birds/etc so I think I'll have trouble with that
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>>3487307
Parrot Anafi
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Any good source to buy decent 2nd hand lenses?
Has to be able to ship to EU
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>>3488035
ebay
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As of now I have to borrow a camera from my university. I want a cheap DSLR (i am poor) mostly for video. I really wanted the 5D mk III, but that thing is expensive. I am currently using Nikon D5100 with NIKKOR 18-105 3.5-5.6 ED. I know basically nothing when it comes to digital cameras and what is and isn't good. Any recommendations or should I just buy my own D5100? It seems pretty usable after a firmware patch, but I can not really compare it to anything else. the price for that one is low as well.
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>>3487936
I use to pull apart everything I see here, but this is something I can tolerate. ofc the lighting on the actor has to be better and start to adjust exposure on the face, not the whole frame. but apart from that it didn't bore me and that is everything filmmaking is about and something you hardly find here. keep going.
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>>3488317
Get a gh4/gh5 or bmpcc4k
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>>3488317
I used to own a 5d mk3 and the video quality was trash

It looked like a bad 720p

Get an xt3 or >>3488386
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>>3487931
nobody would care, it would only be brought up if you went on a tirade about jews or found out to be soliciting sex from underage girls. If you did either of those, your history as a 4channer would be the least of your problems.
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Is there a reason why warp stabilizer (premiere pro) slows down my footage to about 50%?

Using X-t2 here, shot some footage on 4k 24p. Just wanted to try it and noticed the slowing down. Odd.
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>>3487931

PC culture is on its way out... it never actually existed anyway, being an illusion created by federal / corporate censorship and selective bullying. By the time anyone here makes it IRL, they'd just be considered a trailblazer.
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>>3488411
maybe your system can't play it in real time with the stabilizer applied
pre-render a part and check the timing there
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I usually edit on my home PC, but I’ll be doing jobs abroad. What ahould I be editing on? Rented editing laptops?
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>>3488393
It it trash really? It is the most shilled camera with magic lantern support.
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>>3488549
anything like a gh4 wrecks it completely unless you're willing to deal with the bullshit raw workflow and restrictions
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>>3488549
No. There's a strong anti-canon shill movement since forever. It comes with being the most successful camera brand for like forever.
The 5diii is a beast of a camera and becomes unbelievable with ml.
(The 5div is pretty great too but we keep that on the down-low)
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Hello dear friends. I've a question of a very practical nature. In a student caliber shoot, how viable is it to have 25 scenes shot in a single day , all with natural light? We must do some makeup tricks and special effects, albeit not too complicated. Thank you in advance.
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Lumix 12-35 2.8 for the BMPC4K?
People generally seem happy with it but the wire focusing sounds potentially problematic.

>>3489007
If you can do it than do it, but I wouldn't count on it. Make sure all the actors have rehearsed. Also depends on how close all the locations are. No lollygagging either.
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>>3488549
Canons cameras are perfectly capable. But they gimp them so protect their shitty cinema line.

Don't listen to>>3488555
He's clearly never owned a 5d3. The video quality is terrible.

Get a camera from a company that actually puts decent features into their cameras like blackmagic, Panasonic or fuji
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So about fuji's lenses. I currently own a 16-50 3.5-5.6. How much better is the 18-55 kit lens?
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>>3489093
Why would you swap a kit lens with another kit lens
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>>3489105
I heard it's a lot better than the 16-50.
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>>3489080
>He's clearly never owned a 5d3. The video quality is terrible.
There's no way you can say this with a straight face. You're either trolling or don't know how to use a camera
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>>3489007
>how viable is it to have 25 scenes shot in a single day
Not very.
Unless your scenes are extremely short, your actors have memorised their lines and you're okay with only getting a couple of takes per scene, then this isn't feasible
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>>3489007
How well are you feeding your team?
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>>3489123
Not him but either post 5d3 w/timestamp and bread (very important) or shut up. I don't care that they made it the b cam in avengers or whatever.
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Got this lil guy for nice pans/timelapses that can make it in my tiny bag for theme parks. My first weekend with it, and it's actually really fucking nice to just whip out and get a great crane-like sweep.
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>>3489233
I love that the standards of /p/ have now fallen to
>anyone not shitting mercilessly on canon cameras has to prove with timestamp that they own the camera
as if it's not fucking common knowledge how great the footage from a 5diii is.
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>>3489275
>5diii
>upscaled 720p or worst raw workflow known to man
vs
literally any other camera in the past 6 years
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>>3489292
>upscaled 720p
It's not. It's 1080. Do you have a single ounce of proof that it's 720?
> or worst raw workflow known to man
Also insanely good quality internal full-frame raw video years before even the blackmagic pocket.
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>c*nonfag status: nocamera confirmed
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60D for video - is it good?
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>>3489514
Hell no, the downsampling in that generation in the worst, blurry as fuck and yet jaggy aliased. Get a 550d, 600d or 700d for a fraction of the price if you must, that 18mp sensor and shitty video is the same. But I wouldn't want to use any of that shit anymore because there's so much better alternatives for the same price
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>>3489522
such as?
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>>3489526
a6000, xe2, m50, gh 2/3/4
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>>3489492
>makes claim about camera
>provides literally zero proof
>thinks this makes him smart

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>>3489533
You're talking about the c*nonfag right?
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Favorite lenses for the BMPC4K?
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>>3489670
atlas orion 40 t2
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>>3489670
cooke 50mm t2.3
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>>3489670
Panasonic 20 mm/F 1.7 + Black Pro Mist filter
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https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=92687

>Today we are pleased to announce that DaVinci Resolve 16 Studio beta 4 and Fusion 16 Studio beta 4 are now available as no charge updates for existing users on our support web site.
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>>3489954
Be careful if you are upgrading from 15, 16 is a lot more dependent on video RAM and the program will throw errors left and right if you are lacking.
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>>3489976
How much video ram do you need?

I have two gtx 1080 cards and it still is throwing errors about not enough video ram.
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>>3489976
>>3489994
It's a beta, bros
The same shit happened in all the betas before
Use the stable versions for "serious work" and talk about 16 when it's done
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is it better to shoot 1080p h.264 or 720p raw and upscale that?
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>>3490107
Depends. In general, 1080 is better.
But if you know you're delivering for mobile, or will be heavily grading/fucking up exposure, then go 720.
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>>3490123
So in general i get a sharper image with native compressed 1080p compared to upscaled 720p? Some videos on vimeo tell a different story.
https://vimeo.com/85974454
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I bought the x-t3 back in november, but I'm really regreting it since it doesn't have ibis/most of the lenses arent stabilized aswell. I know I should buy a gimbal and stuff but that's just extra weight to carry around, I've been thinking of selling the xt3 and buying the gh5 but im just not sure because photog is a hobby of mine too
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>>3490107
if you get what you need in camera, the 1080. if you are doing lots of post, the 720
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>>3490205
gh5 is fine for photography
and the ibis is outstanding
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>>3490254
Lots of post as in colours, etc? Working with raw feels far more snappy in kdenlive.
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>>3490205
learn to shoot handheld more stable or put your shit on a tripod instead of buying a crutch like camera with IBIS or a gimbal right away. if you still feel like you are lacking stability, then consider upgrading
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>>3490205
If you haven't already, look into post stabilization and wide lenses. The wider the lens, less stab it requires. If that doesn't work, gh5 indeed is a solution. Still image quality isn't a problem, but it's reverse of video. You'll have to put more effort into it in post. m43 jpegs are lousy, no matter the camera, but properly processed raw will be indistinguishable.
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>>3490386
post stabilization works fine if atleast the lens has IS built in, or if its slowed down a bit, but without any stabilization its really shaky and you cant really get rid of the micro-stutters without the jelly effect. i put a lot of time in post anyway idk i'm torn between trying to switch or not
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>>3490399
Use a tripod or a monopod. Or buy a camera with ibis. Don’t waste your money on gimbals unless you really need them for run & gun shooting.
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I'm looking around online, but I'll ask here early on.
What would be something good for recording continuous for 10 hours?

I take hobby pictures at a figure expo in Japan.
Some folks had interest in watching a stream of the event, but live footage sounds like more trouble than it's worth and somewhat uninteresting due to lines.
Since I also don't want to manage three cameras, I was thinking about putting a camera onto a friend, letting it record all day, and then editing the good stuff together.

I've got a gopro, but I was hoping for something better suited.
Additionally are there any options for a 360 camera?
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>>3491227
a newish gopro isn't that stupid for something like that because of the small form factor, image stabilization and reasonably small data rates (gopro7 is max 78mbit/s at highest possible quality so 10h is about a TB).
hook it up to a xboxhueg powerbank in a backpack and bring enough media and it will work just fine
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>>3491257
>implying I can basic math
at 78mbit it will take up 351gb in 10 hours
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>>3491227
>>3491271
I've never done it myself, but if I were to attempt it I would (as the other anon says) use gopros.
Also, only record at 720p (or even 1080p) and buy a 256gb sd card.
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If you ever shot expos, then you would know how terrible lighting is at them, so everything with shitty low light capabilities and withoulw LOG will look absolutely terrible. Also, simply "shooting everything" is a terrible idea. I only shoot stuff i need. And besides you wouldn`t capture everything anyway and then you would die trying to edit it.
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>>3491293
>log in low light
don't
I agree with the rest, though
Editing 10h of footage into something watchable will make you end yourself
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>>3491307
Expos usually have pretty uneven lighting. If you don`t want half of your image being completely overexposed you`d need LOG. It`s not that lowlight where everything is in shadows and you can`t shoot log anyway. More like lowlight, where smartphone sized sensor of GOPRO will be noisy as hell.
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>>3491310
>where smartphone sized sensor of GOPRO will be noisy as hell
Not him, but log will add noise to the image.
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Thanks for the info guys.

>>3491293
>>3491307
Lighting is pretty good in the buildings.
The main focus for me is the still photography.
I usually end up with 1200+ pictures and edit about 300 for posting (over the course of several months, since it's not like I have a deadline).
This is just using my friend as a platform since he's really just walking around looking at shit.
For editing the video, I probably wont worry about getting the good as much as removing the bad.
I'll put it on youtube, link it to /buyfag/, and just let them pick out what they like.

>>3491257
>xboxhueg powerbank
That shouldn't be a problem.
I usually use one of the five or so available for my own camera and phone.
Lots of power left.

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>>3487936
you could have done an elaborate montage during the arrangement of the cards to emphasize how involved you were in the outcome of the trick that way the reveal would have had a bit more of an impact
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>>3491227
Pretty sure the rx100 can do 1080 non stop with the tweak, it won't do more than 5 min 4k because of overheating.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqmM2ainjYU

You could also go full twitch autismo with pic related
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What’s a good length demo for gaining funding for a feature length (or at least 40 minute) film? As in, I have a script I’m working with and shooting myself, and I’m dumping a few thousand of my own money into it (I worked hard for and got a high-six figures job at a tech company that’s extremely desired — I’m using it to funnel capital into my film endeavors). I’m shooting with mediocre gear (Rebel T6, 24mm and 85mm rokinon lenses, have a tripod from my large format camera I’m reusing for this. I may rent some lighting equipment once I secure actors. I live near a top theater program at a top university and I’m sure some students would be willing to work for $15/hr).

I know everyone thinks their idea is great, and so I’ll join the cliche and say mine is great. At the least, I’m up and ready to take the risk, and I’m extremely excited. Unfortunately my idea would take at least 40 minutes of screen time to flesh out, but I’ve visualized 10 minutes of scenes that could be done right now and in high style and be coherent enough for a viewer.

Is 10 minutes of quality screen time enough to show around and get funding? I don’t mean super mega millions funding obviously. But maybe a few dozen thousand here and there from the university and/or people I know and/or grants (unlikely).
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How detrimental would it be to shoot a no-budget film on a 200D? It obviously won't be able to compete with cameras in higher price ranges but would it just be subpar or unusable?
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>>3491678
Damien Chazelle's short that he made for Whiplash funding was shorter than ten minutes. But, like everything in this industry, it's about who you know.
If you don't have a plan for who you're going to show the film to in order to get funding, you need to take a step back and figure that out
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>>3491693
Short film: Absolutely fine.
Feature film: Personally I wouldn't. Seeing it on a decent monitor or in a cinema screen will make it look like shit unless you grade it with that in mind (think Kendy Ty). But you can. In terms of watchable-ness, sound is more important that image quality. Just expose your shots properly
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>>3491706
Thanks, yeah it's only for short films. I'll keep that in mind
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>>3491678
>six figs
>tech
>>>rabel and cheap primes
Such is life in commiefornia i assume. Glad i got out.
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What's a good mic for recording foley/sound effects in-doors that is also compatible with Nikon P1000 for general video use?

Looking to spend about $100-$150. Some of the foley sounds I want to record and work with are very faint, like the acoustics that happen in the wake of another sound.
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>>3491717
use a zoom h1 instead of a mic.
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>>3491724
I watched some reviews including sound samples compared to their normal mics. Didn't sound very good.
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Post your work, guys.
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>>3491724
>>3491787
h1 picks up everything around it, it does the job okay but there are so many other options like the one with XLR
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>>3491808
Watch it on festivalscope
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What are some communities online to get feedback on my script?
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I've been out of the ring for quite a while. Is the A6500 still the best option when looking for lowlight performance and 4K?

I would love to go for the flexibility of the gh4 color wise (with an external recorder) but I do much more videography and guerilla work than actual shoots where I could light things up proper.
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>>3492030
Oh also I need good performance, photography wise. I do some product photography and shoot insta thots as a side gig
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>>3491821
>so many $100-150 options
>posts none
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>>3492030
stillsfags pls go
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>>3492030
If you want to do photography as well then a6x00 or xt3/xh1 are as good as it gets on a budget
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>>3492030
Nikon z6 is the best for what you're talking about.
(In general it's probably the best mirrorless available for filmmaking under ten grand)
>full frame
>low light comparable to sony a7 series
>records 4k raw via external recorder
>also a great stills camera
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>>3492030
i'd say go for the xt3 - but beware it doesnt have ibis (so you HAVE to get a gimbal) - best hybrid camera out right now
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>>3492040
Was before S1R got released. Still very good option.
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>>3492040
>records 4k raw via external recorder
I agree about the rest, but stop promoting an upcoming feature without a release date that no one has tested yet

>so you HAVE to get a gimbal
no
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>>3492051
meant to quote
>>3492043
for the second one
gimbals are a specific look for specific use cases, stop overusing that shit and use other means of camera movement instead of relying on electronic stabilization on everything just so you're able to swing around your camera mindlessly with even less planning
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>>3492054
Either gimbal or glidecam, handheld xt3 without a stabilized lens is horrible, unusable footage if not slowed down + warp stabilized. There's also the lack of stabilized lenses
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>>3492051
>stop promoting an upcoming feature
shills will never stop, give up now
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>be amerishart
>record video at 24 fps
>piece of shit drone only shoots at 30 fps

wat do
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>>3492121
slow it down
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>>3492121
realize that freedom land uses many different fps and then decide to cater to the look in your vision.
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Tips to get better lighting? I've been making piano cover and turorial videos for around a year now and they just look all bedroom-fan-light-bulb-yellow.

Ive spent a lot of time working on learning about audio equipment and software, and of course practicing my actual craft, so I'm new to giving a fuck about the way it looks. I managed to get my hands on a canon eos rebel t5 reaaaally cheap from my uncle, so I'll be going from using my phone to that. Thanks.
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>>3487631
Videomic pro series? Yes they are. Ntg's are good.
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>>3492210
What's your budget?
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>>3489310
720p in 60fps
1080 in 30 and 24 if I remember correctly.
I have used mark 3 on a lot of low budget music videos, but that was like 7 years ago. I definetely wouldn't recommend it in 2019.
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>>3492217
Rather spend less than more, but I don't even have a clue what this stuff costs or if I could get away with using random less yellow led type lights I could find lying around
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>>3492221
https://youtu.be/U61AA-CTc5c
Let that Asian man teach you.
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>>3492030
Gh5
Great video
Good stills
Excellent stabilisation
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Any coherent suggestion in this article?

https://www.premiumbeat.com/blog/4-older-cinema-cameras-that-hold-up/

Seems to good to be true to get a camera package for 2000 bucks thats actually competent
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>>3492313
I hope someone on /vid/ falls for this and is out there with no lights, an F35 and a photo tripod, trying to figure out where to mount the videomic pro.
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>>3492313
Not really. You do need 4k from 10k camera. No point buying something lower just to fool around with it.
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>>3492149
What if I recorded everything at 30 FPS and 1/60 seconds, and then just exported it at 24 FPS?
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>>3492378
audio desync if im not wrong
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>>3492378
>editor casts Slow!
>it’s somewhat effective!
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>>3485415
I’m currently working with a G&E CG680,

The only downside is that I can basically only do indoor-shoots until I figure out whether it’s an external rechargeable battery or internal issue that’s preventing me from shooting outdoors on-the-go.

But it’s a great camera from 1990 if you want that retro VHS feel to it.
I’d also recommend an RCA Pro or a Hitachi VK.

Really it depends on how old you want it to look and if you’re willing to shell out a few extra bones for the parts it may eventually need.

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>>3492390
Could you post some good result? I'm kinda interest in the look it could give.

How do you get the digital version of your tape?
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>>3492424
Most VHS videos uploaded on YouTube should do the trick— the ones that are actually shot on camcorders, not the cheap FCX or After Effects plugins.
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>>3492424
You have to convert it using an old VCR and have it connected to your computer via FireWire, press play on the camcorder and it should transfer your footage to AVI or MP4 format.

It’ll look kinda potato but also retro asf.

Don’t use any prerecorded tapes.
Use blank tapes.
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Rokinon 85mm T1.5(!) as telephoto prime for mft mount for 300?
>yes?
>or yes!
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>>3492517
it's a good lens
but long as fuck on mft without a speedbooster
so I'd rather get it in ef or f so you can chose to use a speedbooster or a plain adapter if you need that 2x reach
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>>3491709
Nah I live in a low cost of living city but at the top (big) tech firm everyone else wants to work at in a remote office. Pay is lower but my commute is nonexistent as is my rent. But I don’t see the point in paying big bucks for gear for a demo. If I got funding I would rent an Arri and lenses or something for the actual production
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How come its been like 5 years since Zoom came out with a new portable audio recorder?

I'm tempted for the H6 with the ssh6 stereo shotgun mic, but 5 years of progress in the market must surely have something more to give?
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>>3492655
the f4 and f8 came out in the last 3 years and the f6 with some arguably revolutionary tech (at least for that price point) is about to come out
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>>3492655
The h1 was recently updated to the h1n.
But, as is, it's basically perfect
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>>3492655
the H-series works fine, and they keep updating the F-series to go after sound devices. then again sound devices has the mix-pre series
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>>3492701
yeah sounddevices is closing the gap from above and zoom from below, it's actually a pretty decent market now, across all price points you get something very decent
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Sigma 16mm f1.4 (+ gh5)

I would like to use it for short movies. F1.4 could allow me to be a bit of texture and when I need a wide shot 16mm could be just fine.

What do you think of that lens?
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>>3492724
it's roughly a 35mm ish ff equivalent field of view
very common for allround shit
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>>3492724
Own one. Being so wide you'll have to be close to the subject to get separation even at f1.4. Bright and very sharp when stopped down to round f3. Sharper than Olympus 17mm F1.8, but considerably larger and without it's neat pull back focusing ring trick. f1.4 comes quite hand in low light, though.
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>>3492728
>>3492735
Got the lumix f2.8 12-35mm, are you saying sigma 16mm ain't gonna change my gear?
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>>3485420
>an artist who captures the spirit of his truth
The movie was shit
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>>3492741
Considering what you've got, probably not. It's just faster and sharper. But really depends, for some things that f1.4 is handy.
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>>3492755
Ok thanks. I will probably put the money under the bed and make my short with what I have got. I always want to buy gear to play with but every time I am going for, a friend lend it to me, wolfcrow videos remind me I dont need anything or a guy put a review and say that it's not gonna change much.
Am I cursed at buying or what? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Also, a guy from /vid advise me about gh5 and I definitly love it. It worst 2 years of putting money on the side.
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>>3492759
I was going for a gh5 too but decided to get the bmpcc 4k instead. I have a DSLR for photos. And the idea of recording directly to a ssd drive made me get it. That and it was 1/2 the price of the gh5 and came with a good video editing program to boot.
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Am I allowed to ask a compositing-error question? I've asked for/received advice on here for video filtering before, but dunno if it's too much of a tech support question
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>>3483978
Working on Micro Videography, anyone have expirence using microscopes? If so what camera and adaptors do you use? Both shots on a Nikon d7100 and an amscope. The blood is my Fav.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brLPnJGEW1E
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>>3492833
You are allowed to ask anything. The people on here are not required to answer you. If you need an immediate answer ask on a technical support forum.

If you want an honest answer and some criticism about you and your work as here.
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How does one go about making a found footage kinopiece?
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>>3493464
find footage
edit it
export as dcp
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>>3493464
Prioritize actors that can act realistic
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>>3493464
Do they actually use low quality cameras and smartphones, or do they use nice cameras and edit the footage to look bad?
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>>3493535
the former
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>>3493072
Ok, so this is a Sony vegas thing, so it may come off as very amateur/ballsy
I got a new computer, but when I installed Sony Vegas, the masking composition on my footage has a blue-ish outline for no reason, anybody know what's up ?
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Video quality wise, is X-T3 or GH5 better?
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I'm in need of audio gear and I was wondering..

Can I record with both a stereo mic and shotgun mic at the same time and then merge them after?
I'd like to get both the atmosphere and specific areas at the same time.

So before I possibly go full retard, I wanted to check that first.
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>>3493464
Put your camera inside a see-through plastic box, hit record, close the box up and shake it around. Make people scream and shit too.
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>>3493763
you can use as many mics as you want, as long as you have enough channels on your recorder
or you just use multiple recorders like one for the stereo setup and one on the shotgun boom
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My footage has colored bands that I’d love to remove. Each clip has no noise but when I make a longer video I see lines of colors making the image look bad.

I am shooting in Blackmagic RAW and I am using DaVinci Resolve. Is their any tool to remove this type of noise and/or what settings should I add to my noise reduction to make the footage look clean and good.

Thanks anons.
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>>3493831
needs a screenshot to judge
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>>3493831

>>3493832

Here is a screen shot of the noise I was talking about.

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>>3493851

Here is yet another screen shot.

How do I get the lines out of my image. I am shooting with blackmagic raw and the images look great in camera.

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>>3493852
>>3493851
that's a broken camera, mate
send it back for repair
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>>3493853
Ok I will do it. Image looks great in camera it’s only when I’m rendering the footage out in QuickTime that the image looks that noisy.

If I return the camera what exactly should I tell them is wrong with the camera.

But the footage looks clean in-camera, it’s only after color grading the footage that I see these lines.
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>>3493855
so in resolve it looks fine?
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>>3493856
In Resolve it looks fine. In my bmpcc 4k when I play back the footage it also looks fine. In playback after grading it looks fine. When I deliver the footage to h265 it looks crappy. Is their a fix for this or is their another codec I can use that can be uploaded to Vimeo or YouTube which would avoid this type of noise?

What noise reduction settings should I use to eliminate this type of noise?
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>>3493857
so it's an encoding issue
no noise reduction needed
try exporting as either prores or dnxhd or dnxhr and use an external encoder to create the final h264 for the upload
or if you have a fast as fuck internet connection you can also upload the bulky prores to youtube, it will eat that as well
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>>3493858
Thanks anon. Is their windows software I could use or would I need to invest in a hardware recorder?
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>>3493859
megui or hybrid are pretty good and have all the typical x264 options bells and whistles to get the best quality encodes
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What would be better, really good glass (like art or L series) with an ~okish body and sometimes renting a better body or a really good body (a7sii, BMPCC4K) and ~okish glass like the basic canon high aputure glass and sometimes renting good glass???
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>>3493866
the latter
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>>3493866
Bad body:
>poor picture quality with lots of noise and low bitrates
>not very robust
>prone to breaking easier
>lack of features (like 4k, high frame rates etc)

Bad lenses:
>harder to manually focus
>Harder to get bokeh
>...
>Not sharp? (If you get an unbelievably shit lens)
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>>3493866
glass lasts longer than bodies. if you have nothing, buy body first then upgrade glass as best as you can.



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